Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Peter Weber | From Bachelor to Traitor, Pilot Pete shares Reality TV’s Behind The Scenes!
Episode Date: April 2, 2024#724. Get ready to buckle up because this week on Off The Vine, former Bachelor heartthrob Pilot Pete joins Kaitlyn for a sky-high chat about his latest reality TV adventure on "The Traitors"...! Tune in as they spill all the tea on the show’s thrilling second season and find out if Peter regrets not flipping to the dark side. From behind-the-scenes antics to in-flight etiquette, no topic is off-limits as they navigate through turbulence and triumphs. Plus, discover if love is in the air for Peter – could Audrina Patridge be his co-pilot? Don't miss this episode packed with laughs, love, and maybe even a little bit of turbulence! If you’re LOVING this podcast, please leave a rating & review below. FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE! Episode Highlights: (5:46) - Peter discusses his transition from "The Bachelor" to "The Traitors," offering insights into his experiences and how they compare to his time on the iconic dating show. (13:45) - Behind-the-scenes action of "The Traitors" as Peter shares stories about the game's dynamics and the bonds formed among the cast. (20:54) -Experience the drama and humor as Peter opens up about his interactions with fellow contestants, including the entertaining banter with Phaedra. (24:13) - Get ready for romance as Peter discusses his prospects for finding love in 2024, dropping hints about a potential relationship with Audrina Patridge. (39:00) - Take off into the world of aviation with Peter as he shares fascinating insights and amusing anecdotes from his life as a pilot.... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Okay, welcome to Off the Bind.
I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow.
Today on the podcast, we have Pilot Pete, who is still a pilot, by the way, while filming
traders, while trying to get a new job, while writing a book, while, I don't know, doing all
of his media tour for traders.
I ask him everything from who he had a crush on this season, who he's dating right now.
We get all the tea on if the rumors are true with him and Ecken Sue, if he's maybe
possibly having a romance whirlwind with Audrina Patridge?
I'm rooting for that one.
We get into all that and every burning question you could ever imagine from the show Traders.
And at the end, we play a little airplane edition of Can You Not?
I could have went for an hour on just that along.
Here's Pilot Pete.
Hi, how are you?
I haven't seen you in so long.
It's been a minute.
It's been a long time.
It really has been in the last time.
You've just been up to like some more reality TV.
Are you in New York?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I live out in Flatiron.
now. I've been out here for, I don't think I've seen you since I've lived in New York.
I was going to say, because I remember you, wait, did you move out there and then go somewhere
else and then move back? Or have you been there the whole time since you moved?
No, I moved out here January, like beginning to January of 21. And I moved around in the city,
different spots. I was living with Dustin and Clay for a couple years. Now I'm on my own out
in Flatiron. So this is going on year four. Do you love it? I'm obsessed. Yeah.
I was supposed to be here for a year or two. Like, that was initially and then go back to L.A.
and then I just kept extending now I'm extending one more time like long long term view like I need to
probably be back in LA but I just yeah I can't get enough of it yet I love it I'm with you I used to
think I didn't like New York and then the more time I spent there the more I just fell in love with the
city and now I'm like I would do anything to live there but with two dogs it's kind of hard but I'm
like I love it there's so much I did it I had trip for two two of the first three years I had them
with me so it's possible with dogs but I mean close to Central Park that's super nice to
That's true. I've seen it. I always laugh so hard at New York dogs. I'm like, those dogs are so funny because they'll like wear rain boots and a little rain jacket and then just shit in the streets and they're just like they get it. I'd be like my dogs would be like, what? I can't.
You'd be surprised. I was because Tripp was like 16 when I brought him out. I'm like, how was an old dog going to like handle adapt in here? And they adapt. They just get used to. A couple months in, he was running around like he owned the city. So I was good. Wait, that's so cute. Trip was 16 when he was with you.
I had him until he passed when he was 18 and a half.
Yeah.
So I had him for, yeah, two and a half years in New York.
At the very end, his twilight years, we lived it up in the city.
Oh, do you think there's any chance that Goldens could live till they're 18?
Please say yes.
I mean, yeah.
If you show them enough love, hell yeah.
Every dog, we've been so lucky, big dogs, small dogs.
My whole family, they've just like at least like 15, 16.
So I think, yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
Well, then my last will live forever because I'm obsessed and they're spoiled, rotten.
So good news for me.
I believe it.
I love seeing them on IG.
They're the best.
They're the best.
Okay, I can't wait to talk to you about everything.
I am obsessed with the show Traders, which I didn't know I would be because it takes
a lot for me to get into like any kind of reality TV.
I remember a casting director that I knew from Dancing with the Stars was like, do you
want to go on?
And I was like, I don't know.
I'd have to watch it first and see.
And then I watched it and I was hooked on episode one.
It's so good, but it reeks of effort, like swimming and doing all these.
challenges and like is it harder than it even looks it was and that but that actually i enjoyed like
i was probably like in the minority of that i enjoyed those missions like no other like that first
one that we did with the like that lock like out in the huge lake out in like the highland mountains
was just it was one of like it was just one of those moments where it's just like a pinch you
moment because like the whole cast like that was when everyone still was there no one had
been kicked off yet and we're just like are you look where we are it felt like a very like
harry potter ominous kind of vibe and the lockness monsters possibly like in this water
right now where we're swimming. So it was very, very intense. That was one of the things I was most
looking forward to. You know, you watch a lot of competition shows. And I was like, I just want to
make it through at least one mission. I don't want to get voted out before I had an opportunity
to do something like that. Because Bachelor, you do maybe some cool stuff, but it's not the same,
like not as competitive or as like difficult. So this I was looking forward to. And yeah,
I had the opportunity to do quite a bit of them. So it was, that was one of the best parts for me.
Oh, wow. I love that. I'm so competitive. So I feel like I would be like once I'm in it,
I'm in it, but just watching, I'm like, that looks like something I don't want to do.
But once I'm immersed in it, I know I'd be fine.
Now, I want to back up a little bit.
Once you're in it, though, you can't stop.
Yeah.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
No, you're fully.
And especially if you're competitive, which I think you are.
But Bachelor world.
Okay, so obviously it had been like a few years since you'd been on The Bachelor.
I'm trying to remember because I think I know we like talked and we were friends through that.
And I'm trying to remember, did you have a, did you have a hard time?
Now I know everybody has a hard time transitioning and coming on.
that show and going through what you go through. But did you go through like a rough time and like
question going on reality TV? I can't remember the answer to this. Totally. I mean, I, to be completely
honest, I never really thought I'd ever do reality TV again. This, I got this call, you know,
it was from Denev about, no joke about a week before we actually started filming, like a week before
the first day of filming, not just showing up there. So it was a super, super last minute thing for me.
I had seen Ari's season, the first season of traders. And so I had been hooked in it from that.
And immediately I finished up all the episodes and binged them.
I was like, holy shit, I get to go do this in a week.
Like, how cool is that?
But yeah, from my experience from The Bachelor and just obviously, they're two completely
different shows and different experiences.
I remember going on the traders and the, you know, all the press leading up and interviews,
oh, how does, you know, your experience in the Bachelor prepare you for this?
I'm like, honestly, not at all.
It's, they're so different.
The Bachelor, I was, I was fully invested emotionally.
Like, that's, I'm probably too much and it got me into trouble sometimes.
this I was like I'm trying to disconnect as much from emotion and just strategically like be mindful
of everything I do and try to like not be influenced at all by my heart and so but I think it you know
I'm a firm believer that everything happens for a reason and you know I think for me it was I think
I guess that was what 20 20 I did the end the bachelor so this is like you know three years a little
over three years of a gap and I would think that was a good kind of break and reset because like
you said, everyone handles it differently. It's, it's tough. It can be very rewarding and like an
amazing experience, but also very draining and tough to kind of like just regroup and take it all in
and analyze it all and refocus. So I think the timing of it worked perfect for me to do traders. Yeah.
That's what I think too, because I remember I never could have even thought about doing reality
TV after coming off The Bachelor and I was in such a dark place and I just wasn't myself. And I didn't
trust people, even like going on dancing with the stars, however many years later, I was like,
Are the producers trying to manipulate me right now?
Are they actually, like, telling me what's true.
Like, you kind of are mindful from it.
But I do feel like three years is a good amount of time to kind of process.
Go through everything that you've gone through.
I'm sure you like, I mean, I'm just speaking from personal experience,
but I hit rock bottom after coming out of that show.
And I kind of lost myself there for a while.
But if you do the right things and you kind of go through the right,
all the, you know, therapy and humbling yourself and kind of getting off your high horse
and going through life, you kind of get back into a place where you're like,
okay, that's a very unique show, and now I have this opportunity to do other things.
I was actually surprised because I didn't know if you would do reality TV again, but then
watching you on traders. I was like, you were kind of made for this show. I feel like you did it
in very, like you didn't, you didn't really let your emotions get the best of you. You were
strategic, but you were also like, I feel like you were yourself during it. Like compared to Bachelor
Bachelorette, did you feel like they portrayed you in the way that you played the game?
like correctly they did yeah they did it's been super funny because i've gotten so many comments from
people that are like you just like you we see you in a completely different light you're such a
different person i'm like really not a different person like sure i've grown a little bit it's been a
couple years but i've been peter the whole time um but that was one thing that like i relate to what you're
saying about going on to a different show and you kind of like have these preconceived notions
just from your original experience of how it's going to be and that was one of the coolest things
that I actually really appreciated and enjoyed about Traders was, and again, I understand,
like, Bachelor and the dynamic of that show and how it works, it's necessary for producer,
you know, interaction and just kind of like leading the way a little bit, just that's the nature
of the show. Traders is the exact opposite. And it was truly just like there was some,
there were cameramen around, but it was a lot of just like the fixed based cameras that would
move and like follow you in reality. You had, once you started reality, you hadn't have one
conversation with the producer. The only time is like, if you had a good,
your mic battery changed hey like you can you come here you got to change like they didn't if you wanted
you talked to whoever you wanted to talk to for however long you wanted to talk to before about
whatever and you did everything your way and it was like it took me like a day or two i'm like
wait no one's like telling me like i get to do whatever i want hell yeah and it just i i
appreciated that so much and i think too i've like heard stuff i guess i don't if there's like laws
but like with like a game show producers actually can't influence anything because there's money on the
line. Who knows if there's any, like, validity to that, but it was a really cool experience.
Yeah, that's, I forget what show it was the one that Blake Horstman and Giannino went on where
they met, I forget what it's called, but that's what they told me too, where if there's
money on the line, like you're winning it as a contestant, the producers actually can't mess with
you. So they knew, like, they liked each other and they didn't have to hide from it.
They didn't have to like, be like, what are they going to show us? Like, they were able to just
like each other and have the conversations that they wanted to have, which is obviously a whole
new ball game for us as being on Bachelor and Bachelorette.
For us, we're not used to that at all.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
That's cool.
So, okay, so I always wondered, too, while watching, I'm like, how much are they influenced
by producers, but no, that makes sense that you actually weren't.
Like, I, I would, not at all.
I remember, I think it was a shock when I, I had, like, and it was like the sweetest
interaction, like, from a producer.
I had rejected the recruitment.
And right after that, like, you know, you.
sit there for maybe 10, 15 minutes, just talk. And it was cool. It was very different from the
Bachelor. You know how Bachelor is a camera and a producer and you're talking to someone.
This one, you're like looking straight into a camera and it's just like there's a voice coming
out of like the walls, but you don't see anybody. You're just talking to a camera. So that was cool
in itself. But right after like I think they could tell I was like really struggling like,
man, I just made that decision. Like I hope it's the right one. And then like one of the lead
producers, she came out and like just met me in one of the rooms. Just gave me like a big hug.
He's like, you know what? Like respect your decision. Like, you know, you got this and all that. And I was just like
that's just there is so much love in the show. It's cool. That's cool. I feel I felt the same way about
dancing with the stars. Like it felt like a lot of love and it felt like a more of a family dynamic where
it felt like everybody just cared about everybody. And I was like, this is so nice. And it kind of like gives
you a different perspective on reality TV too because you're like, okay, I respect that the producers
had to do this on The Bachelor. That is their job. That's how to make the show. That's the that's the format.
That's everything that they're doing and like needs to be done. And that's why we even got that opportunity in the
first place is because they've done such a good job over the years. And then you get to go on a show
after and you're kind of like, wow, I got through already like the hard stuff and that was kind
of more fun and challenging in a different way. But it's so interesting to hear the behind
the scenes. Actually, can I just back up a little bit? For people that are listening that don't know
the concept of traders, could you just kind of give it to us in a nutshell? For sure. So traders is essentially
real life game of clue. And they pick, you know, around 20 of us to go to this castle in the highlands
is Scotland. Alan Cumming is the host. And first day, he picks between, I guess, between two
and five people at this roundtable ceremony to be the traitors. And it's in secret. We're all
blindfolded. And then from that point on, the point of the game is every single day, there will be
a round table ceremony where you have the opportunity to banish a trader, a person you think is a
trader. And then every night, there's a murder that is committed by the traders. And the whole point
is to make it to the end of the game. If just one trader can sneak by and not be sniffed
out by the faithfuls, they call them the faithfuls and the traders. One trader can make it,
they actually steal the entire pot of money all to themselves. If the faithfuls make it to the
game at the end and it's just them, they would split it if there's two, three or just themselves.
And then during the game, you're playing missions to build up the pot. So that's kind of like a cool
dynamic too where you're actually working together partly, you know, part of the time to build
up the pot and the traders are trying to steal it all at the end and the faithfuls are trying to
sniff out the traders. So you don't necessarily end up with a certain amount of money at the
And it's kind of how much you collect through the game.
Yeah.
So, like, the two seasons I've seen from the U.S.
Surrey won the first one.
She was a traitor.
She made it to the very end, undetected.
And there was, like, four people at the end.
They all decided to end the game.
She, of course, decided to end it two.
And it was revealed she was a traitor.
So she stole the whole $250,000 pot to herself.
On our season, they are pot.
We didn't get quite the $250.
I think we got like 208.
And then there was two faithfuls that made it.
And so they split the 208 pot.
So it's kind of always different.
Okay.
We're going to get to the end of that.
because they, that was a dirty move, but also, like, I get it.
I felt so bad, was it MJ?
Oh, my God, her poor face.
It reminded me of when I thought I was marrying Chris Solz and with three left, he sent
me home.
When he called Whitney's name and then he called Beck's it, it was like my face processing
like, wait, oh shit, oh shit, I'm going home.
I was like, oh, bless NJ, that broke my heart.
We'll get there.
How long is filming for you guys that you're there?
It's quick, too.
we filmed pretty much an episode a day. A couple episodes took more than a day, but I was there for
about three, just over three weeks. And then the winners, they went maybe like four weeks. So like a
month. It was quick for the whole show. That's actually longer than I thought it was.
Four weeks totally. And you're filming every single day. Are they long days, long hours?
Yes, which is I give Fadra so many props because the trader is how the longest day, right?
So like there's so much behind the scene stuff right at the end where they do such a good job.
job of keeping it a secret because you can't reveal like there you can't allow anybody to get any
leg up on who could possibly be a trader so at the end they take everybody out one by one blindfolded
and like put them in a car by themselves and all this stuff but the traders have to film at the
very end of the day so they had the longest nights and then they have to wake up these like she said
she had to do like two hours of makeup every single day i'm like you she had three hours of sleep
a night and i'm like you could never tell she always looked so well rested and i'm like because
we tried we're like the trader's probably going to start it's going to wear on them they're going to
see like bags under their eyes and like they're going to look tired and we couldn't we couldn't pick
it up especially on fader i was impressed but very long days wait that's crazy so i was actually
thinking that while watching i'm like so do you you obviously don't see them like oh that person's up
later or where are they going to film this right now was it like you guys got to like go to bed
and they'd come sneakily get you and you couldn't leave your room so you couldn't see who is
going around we so we would have at the very end of reality for the like we'd have round table
a little bit of reality and then we'd be off camera they'd all put us in this one big like
living room they'd give us like a glass of wine it was like the one time we could like decompress and
kind of just chat like just not about the show and um they would come in one by one and pull us out
one by one and put us to bed that way so you never knew you would always go by yourself so you never
knew and they'd always change up the order so you could never get a tell like for me when i got the
recruitment letter they had that was the last one left in the room that night and i remember thinking
no, I've never been last.
And then they come like, hey, Peter, we have a, we've got like an audio issue, like,
for your mic.
We need to take you back up to like one of the, to the production rooms.
And I'm like, that sounds a little interesting.
And then the second I open the door, I see that letter on the sofa.
I'm like, okay, this is what this is.
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The food looked insane. Was it so good? And like, did they give you wine? Were you allowed to drink?
Or was it just every once in a while? It was not like every single day. And again, you don't, that kind of show, you don't
want really influence like under the influence alcohol that kind of stuff just it doesn't help you
being like sharpness wise well there was i guess though with eckin there was a big plot twist kind of
with the with the chalice and being poisoned so i guess it did come into play a little bit but the food
and it was that's also something very different from the bachelor we got to eat on screen like full
and have conversations like fully like stuffing our face and i'm like this is so different like
i'm so used to watching a food just a play to get cold and like not even touch it yeah yeah and i'm just
like stuff in my face the entire time and and we're like gaming, you know, strategy and all that.
So food was awesome. The tomato soup was the thing that like sticks out in my mind I was obsessed
with and the orange juice I loved every single morning at breakfast. But yeah, food was great.
And then we'd drink a little bit at night, depending on like what had happened in the day.
Yeah. Did you work out? Could you exercise in the mornings or was there a gym or anything?
There was a gym. Didn't get too much opportunity to do to do that. But the missions,
there was the mission that we did for, I don't know if you remember, the cattle
Pult mission, that was one of the most physically exhausting things I have ever done in my entire
life. And like, of course, as episodes edited only, you know, an hour to show stuff, it took us
probably like a good hour of just lugging that entire thing, you know, huge blocks that is wood,
running up, you know, it would rain, like muddy, muddy hills. Like, we were exhausted. And then I remember
there was like one point we had, we had assembled the catapult. And like we had a, oh my God,
Caitlin. I was so scared. I was like, there's no way this can happen again. We were like the four
guys, we were, we had like these long wooden like handles that we were using a like lift up the
catapult and push the last like 100 yards. Anyways, I'm like on the front right and I, we pick it up,
like we could only go like 10 yards at a time and we pick it up and it was so heavy that the
wooden plank thing snapped as I was lifting it. And my left eye got within like a couple
inches of this huge splinter now sticking out of the wooden thing. And I'm like, what's up with me
getting like almost having two injuries now in two different shows from, you know, my forehead
scarred. Like I saw like within a couple inches was this huge splinters. I got lucky that nothing
happened. Yeah, it's, I mean, some of the stuff like the bugs and the maggots and the like something
seemed really dangerous. I'm like, this is actually crazy because nobody ended up getting actually
hurt. But I feel like it was a true possibility. I think Fadra. She's
said that she tore her meniscus, which is like, even more to her credit. I'm like, how did you
hide that and like continue the missions? But she said that she had tore her meniscus. Yeah, I am impressed
with Fadra. She was, so she was one of the traders and she was really good. And I mean, her little
beef with you or banter when she's like, I don't have to, this isn't the bachelor. I don't need to
kiss your ass to get a rose. I was saying right. Oh, God. Shut up. I, I, I, I, I, I, I
I was, Caitlin takes a lot to get me, like, rile it up.
And we are so good now.
We've completely smoothed it over.
But I was seeing red when I, when she went, like, and you never get into it.
I've learned never get into it with Fader because she will always win.
She is just so quick and smart.
But yeah, she, that was a fun, fun roundtable.
Oh, I feel like the whole cast to the season.
It was super interesting and very entertaining.
Did you, I mean, for the most part, I know there's little beef with you and Fadra sometimes.
But like, did you get along?
with everybody. Did you have someone that was a favorite that you'd like still that you do keep in touch with everybody? Like what was the cast like for you? Cass camaraderie was awesome. We we actually so we filmed the reunion like two weeks ago out in L.A. And that was like, you know, we finished filming in probably October, beginning of October. So it'd been a while since all of us had been back together. We had like a couple days in New York for press, but not everyone was there. But it was super cool to see everyone. And we actually had a cast party at my parents house like that night right after we filmed.
the reunion and like pretty much everybody came and it was cool to like kind of put yes there was
disagreements and there was you know you know fights and all that that happened during the game
but at the end of the day i think for the most part everyone realized it was just a game like
there's nothing really to get personal about with this like we're competitors and we gave it our
all but me personally uh bergie is probably my best friend that came out of the show i freaking
love bergie eckin very very close with uh trichelle i just was with triselle uh two nights ago
she was out here for some press stuff.
Really, everyone's super, Kevin, super, John, Speaker of the House from Parliament,
never thought that I would be friends with this guy.
And like, he's there.
I remember he was having like a conversation with my parents.
And like, I'm just like, this is like, what's life right now?
This is hilarious.
It's just funny who you become friends with through this kind of world.
You know, like there's a point in my life where I was like standing like getting hummingbirds
flying around me with Spencer Pratt.
And I'm like, what turn did I take in life to get here?
Like, what's going on?
Wait, what was that from?
I was just friends with Spencer and Heidi, and I was just at their house.
He was, like, showing me how to, and I have a fear of birds.
So he was trying to get me over my fear of birds.
And we were playing with hummingbirds.
It was wild.
That's hilarious.
Yeah, it's, you never know who you're going to meet from these experiences, but I think
that's one of the cool things that come from them.
What do you have to go on tomorrow that you said?
Oh, tomorrow I'm going to peppermint.
She actually lives in New York.
We're going to go see, we're seeing Romeo and Juliet at the Met tomorrow.
So that'll be, that'll be fun.
Oh, cool.
Wait, that's amazing.
And I love that you had the after party at your parents.
How is Barb? I miss her.
She is, she is great.
She is thriving.
She loved, my mom just is always down for a good time.
Loves being around people.
And she was like so stoked that we were able to throw it at the house.
Like immediately she's like, she offered and like, hey, if they want to come, like have them come over here.
And we went out to West Lake close to, you know, where the mansion's at.
And yeah, she's thriving.
I think she, it'd be so funny to see her on a show like the Traders.
I think she would absolutely destroy.
She would be so good.
I would like to see Barb on traders.
Okay, let's make that happen.
And Barb, obviously, classic Barb posted a photo of you.
And is it Eck and Sue, right?
That's her name?
Yeah, Ecken Sue, yeah.
Okay, so people were like shipping or thinking you guys were dating.
I feel like you've probably already addressed this, but are you just really good friends?
Really, really good friends.
Yeah.
I mean, I obviously get everyone, you know, commenting on that and the picture probably confused people.
No, she's beautiful.
She's beautiful.
But we, you know, she's out in London.
She's filming Big Brother.
now. So we're just, we're really, really, truly good friends. We're very much alike. We got along
super, super well. But yeah, really good friends. Wait, I saw you hanging out with Adriena Patrick
lately. I love her. And is that a thing? Am I allowed to ask? Is that a thing? Or you guys just
working together? That, that's just work. Yeah, got some exciting stuff possibly coming up in the future
with her and I. And it was like super, super random how, again, like you said, you never know who you're
going to meet from those experiences. But we got connected. I was actually out when I was in L.A.
for the reunion one of those nights I met up with Audrina for the first time and just met
for the first time at a good little meeting there and also she's an awesome person like get along
super well such a sweetheart so yeah excited to we'll see what happens there I have a few more
traders questions from listeners but I'm excited to see what the upcoming projects are for you are
are you allowed to talk about them or is it kind of still in the works this yeah these are
kind of in the works it's kind of on it there are two possible hosting gigs
which would be really sweet.
I never thought about ever getting into that.
But she had these really two cool ideas.
And one is definitely up my alley, which I would love to do.
So we're just kind of, we just did like a little sizzle reel this past weekend.
And yeah, we'll see where it goes.
Oh, I love that.
Okay.
So is, is, is Pilot Pete single ready to mingle?
Are you dating?
What's going on?
Pilot Pete is very single, is ready to mingle and dates.
I keep saying this year has been, this is probably one of the best years of my life so far.
And I'm loving this energy.
And I just, there's something I feel that's like really, really good about 24.
And I can feel finally, I hope, fingers crossed, a relationship comes out of this.
And, you know, last relationship would be ideal.
So I'm very optimistic.
I feel you on that.
Last one would be really great.
I feel like you're on, I've been all about good vibrations and being on a high vibe
and like ignoring the low vibes.
And I just got, actually I just got this tattooed on me yesterday.
It says high vibrations.
I love that.
High vibe tribe.
I mean, that's me.
I try to live there all the time.
Yes, I feel like you're on it.
I feel like you're living on the high frequency.
I'm so obsessed.
I can tell by your whole energy and just like everything.
Even just watching you on traders compared to Bachelor,
I feel like you've just grown.
I don't know how to explain it.
I think it's like a lot of your energy.
You just feel like you're in such a good place,
which I'm so excited for you.
I'm rooting for you and Adriena, if that's ever a thing because,
holy shit, that would be amazing.
I love her.
You never know.
I changed my Facebook picture to her one time.
on Facebook because people were like, oh, she's your doppelganger, like back when I was, I don't know,
like 17.
You guys have a similar look for sure.
That's so I.
And I then I had her on my podcast.
And again, I'm like, this is so funny.
I used to be like, have you as my profile picture, which is creepy, but also amazing.
But yeah, she's lovely.
That, okay, I'm rooting for that one.
Okay.
A few, a few trader questions from listeners.
Would you have liked to be chosen as a trader originally or did you like being a faithful?
No, I would have taken it in a heartbeat.
I would have loved to.
I remember Roundtable.
So the way that Alan did it, it was very like, my heart was going.
Oh, my God.
Alan, real quick, was such a joy to work with in regards to that he's such a master of his craft.
He did not break character once the entire time of filming.
Not once.
Like what you see on camera, that's how he just carried himself the entire show.
After we had one of the press days in New York, we all went to his class.
club coming in New York City. And that was the first time we got to like just hang out of them just
like as like a dude, like not in the role. And it was the first time like, oh my God, I'm actually
feeling like I get to know you. But I just admired so much how much he like was a master of his
craft and bought into it. Love Alan. That round table. Alan is going around and he's like going to
tap who the traders are. And he did it like maybe eight laps. And every single time you could hear
his footsteps getting closer to. And I'm just like praying like imagining like a feeling of someone
touching my shoulder and never came. But I would have loved to have been a traitor. I would have
taking their first recruitment. It just, when they offered it to me at that point, for my second
recruitment, I couldn't take it at that point. I was surprised you didn't take it. Okay,
what made you say no to taking the recruitment option the second time? So I guess when,
so their second recruitment, um, I had to say no to you, but listen, a big part of it was,
I just was very loyal to the team of people I was working with. I felt and I, but I'm not, listen,
I'm not dumb, not, not naive. Like I wouldn't have, I only would have rejected it if I truly felt
I had a chance to victory still at that point as staying a faithful. And I really did. I thought,
listen, we have shields available still. We have a lot of momentum. We still have numbers on our
side at this point. I don't want to turn and now have to switch up the whole dynamic, have to
start lying to everyone, possibly now that comes out and people get on to me. I also thought
strategic, aside from like the loyalty, strategically, I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.
At the next morning, you know, breakfast, everyone's going to know there was no murder, which means
there was a recruitment. So I'm thinking if any logical mind's going to think, okay, who's the
likely target for a recruitment? At that point, I had been so like I was very forward about my
accusations. I was very like hot on Parvety and and Fadra. I had been accurate stuff with Dan.
I'm thinking, okay, anyone that's thinking who would they have recruited probably would be me.
And so now if they are thinking that, now, you know, I could see Fadra and Parvety really throwing me
under the bus, having me get banished as a traitor, right? Because I would have converted at that
point. And now they absolve all, you know, kind of like worry that they were possibly traitors or like any
suspicion. And, you know, they probably sore to the end because they, they helped get out a trader.
So I'm like, I just strategically, I'm like, I don't think this makes sense. And then on top of the
loyalty, I'm like, no, I'm just going to stay status quo and, and stay faithful.
I liked that move. I was, I was surprised, but I liked it. I was like, yes, Peter. Do you think you
would have gone farther if you did? Well, now you kind of explained it. Like, you would have,
they would have probably got you out right away. I think they would have really gotten hard.
to like banish me and again i guess either i like i've thought about this stuff so much like either way yeah
there was no murder the next morning so maybe people still thought i was recruited even though i had denied
it i also thought that that wasn't going to be the last recruitment for me i thought i was going
to get a second offer for the ultimatum i was surprised fadro went kate's route i think fadro would
have won the game if she recruits me the second time forces me into it because now again she
can the very next day throw me under banish me as a traitor and she's so close to the end at that
point that I don't I don't see her getting discovered as a traitor that close to the end. So that's
my theory. Were you surprised when you found out that Kate was a traitor? I was. I didn't,
I really had zero. I mean, I didn't have time really to have any suspicion on her because of when I
when she got recruited and then when I left. But I do remember at the roundtable when they were
going around with their votes, the last table that I was at when I got banished. And I remember hearing
Kate, like she really was going at me. Like in her explanation, she's like, Peter, this is, you know,
why I think you're a traitor and like was just but saying a lot of stuff that like made no sense but
was like very aggressive. And I'm like, where did that energy come from? Kate? Like what's going on
there? And I thought it was a little odd. Still didn't think that maybe she was a traitor in that
moment. But turns out, you know, that she was at the end. And yeah, I don't know why she voted to
end the game when she did. Because that kind of just gave away that she was a traitor at that point.
Yeah, I agree. And if you could choose two people to be traders with you, who would you choose?
Oh, I would have loved to have played with Bergey and Treschelle.
Yeah.
If we could have like, and then I've thought that stuff too.
I'm like, God, if I would have accepted it, now what if I'm able to turn on them?
I get Parvety and Fader out and I get to recruit now and like I get to recruit the faithfuls to the trader.
Like that would have been so fun to be able to do.
I wondered, and I don't know the answer to this, but I wondered if like when you do get cast for the show, are you able to be like, please make me a traitor?
Like I really want to or be like, don't pick me.
Are you allowed to have a say?
I mean, I can only speak for myself.
I didn't have a say.
I just, I said yes.
I flew out there and started playing the game.
But I do think that like a suggestion I have, because I think the show is going to be so
successful and go on for so many years.
Just people are falling in love with it for a reason.
But the character, you know, that they can bring different personalities.
The only thing I would change up would be, I think they need to automate and are like
randomize the pick of the traders.
So nobody can have an unfair target on their back because if,
it's randomized, no one, no one can have any suspicion at that point. Like bananas, you know,
I think if he goes back, he's always going to be someone that is always targeted right in the
beginning because of his strong gameplay and like all of his success on challenges. I think you get
rid of that if you randomize. That's good. Yeah, I was surprised he went out so quick. Okay. And then
last question, do you think C.T and T. and Treschelle deserved to win. I do. Listen, I, I, I, I,
they played a stellar game. I was really close with Trichella for the, you know, my whole game time on
the game. CT was someone that I could never fully get the read on. I like went back and forth a
couple of times. And I just, it was one of the personalities I couldn't get. But I know there's all
this, you know, controversy or opinions of, listen, it's a game. They did their best to,
it, for sure, I think it was, there's proof that it wasn't, nothing dirty was done or like there
was no conspiracy. No one was in cahoots with each other because before they decided to do that last
vote. Trishel had voted CT out. So if MJ just votes CT, now MJ and Trishel are winning the
game together. But they didn't go that way. They all voted for each other. And so then the next
round, I totally understand Trishel now being, okay, well, MJ, you just voted for me the last time.
I have to vote your way. And she switches her vote up to MJ and then you see CT and Trishel win.
So it was, I guess I see MJ's feelings and how she could be hurt. I totally get that. It'd be
annoying getting that close and then having to get voted out. But it's a gameplay. And,
And I think CT and Trichelle did an incredible job.
Wait, was C.T. pissed that it was like they were, had the final two with C.T. and
Trichelle and then Tricel voted for him.
Like, or was that a plan?
Was that some sort of like tactic to be like, okay, now we're going to have to vote again.
And now we can both vote out MJ?
I don't know.
No.
That's a thing.
Like, I've talked to them a bunch after.
Like, that wasn't planned.
It was so funny because Trichel and C.T. had this.
It was kind of cool.
Like their relationship, right?
They'd known each other for so many years back, you know, on their, their, their,
previous shows and then on the traders like they both kind of like played with each other a little
bit like one would like not trust the other and then it would switch to the other and like they
both kind of went back and forth and then you see this relationship kind of bridge at the very
end of the game but then there's one more move uh trichella saying that when c t switched up the last
vote at the round table ceremony she then was like wait holy shit are you really pulling one
like over me right now and then had one bit last like hesitation if she wanted to trust ct
So that's why she said she had voted for a CT at that last fire pit of truth.
And then, and yeah, and then it, you know, it turned out the way it did.
But I think it was cool.
It was very kind of like fitting and poetic almost, the way it ended with them two winning at the end together.
It was.
It really was.
It was such a fun season to watch.
I mean, it was the only season I've watched.
But I was so into it.
And now I can't wait for next season.
You've got to do a season.
I want to do it now.
Before I was like, I don't know.
And now I watch it.
I'm like, I'm like sad.
It's over.
I want to do it.
You should, if you get the opportunity, you have to take that.
It is, it was the most fun ahead.
I'm Scottish.
Oh, have you been, you haven't been in Scotland yet?
Uh-uh.
Oh, Caitlin, even more reason.
Okay, you got it next season.
I know.
I'm so excited.
Okay.
So I feel like the game, like obviously all we see is gameplay.
Did anything happen behind the scenes that was so funny or like that people wouldn't know
that you're like, this is a hilarious story?
To be completely honest, no, just just because you,
were so you were it was they took it so seriously that you really didn't have any time with each other
you were always by yourself once you weren't filming the show like i wish i could give you guys something
but you really you didn't like you would when you were when you were not filming or like on your off
days you were talking to a therapist you know to make sure that you're good with everything and
the gameplay is not getting too much to your head oh that's good a couple times yeah you'd be like
in the gym like you'd be able to work out with someone else but for the most part you were by
yourself always. So yeah, I wish I could give you guys something, but now you're always by
yourself when you weren't playing with each other. That makes sense. That makes sense. I know you can't
tell us full details, but can you tease anything that's coming up for you next? I think you kind
did. You're like, it could be a hosting possibility. But where can people get your book? Where can
find you on socials? And yeah, what's coming up next? So yeah, I have my children's book out,
The Adventures of Pilot Pete. I can tease that. I am, you know Peter actually, Peter Geist.
Yeah. So we've actually started chatting. And we,
that we might in the works to try to make that into a cartoon would love to like kind of like the
magic school bus type vibe back in like the day would love to do like a fictional series of you know
where that book started but make it all fictional um so that's a dream i've had for a while we're
starting to kind of get the ball rolling on that um some possible host and stuff and one being
actually very travel minded which would be obviously right up my alley i would love to do another one
being with some love and um you know maybe i have maybe a little bit better success not being in it but
looking on from the outside and yeah i don't know you never know what opportunities are going to present
themselves i'm still flying you know so i'm full-time job flying for united so how are you doing this
yeah it's it's not easy um it's not easy but luckily with the scheduling ability and the flexibility
i get from united i am able to to make like for the traders it was three weeks so that was manageable
to get time off but everyone thinks like how like or did you stop flying i'll never stop flying that's
That's my dream.
That's my passion.
Everything has to be able to fit with my flying schedule for me to be able to say yes.
I love that you still have that.
And that's like your, I was going to ask you.
And I just can't.
That's crazy.
Good for you.
I'm like proud of you for that.
And which leads me to my next segment and my last segment, which is can you not?
Where we're airports and airplanes, I feel like are the easiest place to get annoyed and
irritated and like bothered by other human beings.
So I was asking people on Instagram of like what there can you not is for airplanes.
So I thought you could do one as a pilot and then I'll give you feedback as a passenger.
And you could probably agree with some of mine and I'll laugh at some of yours.
Okay.
All right.
Let's do it.
Okay.
You start.
Okay.
Can you guys not clap when we land the airplane?
Thank you.
That's one of mine.
What?
Like, I get it.
I mean, I don't get it.
Like, I'm trying to get it.
I'm like, but like, this is what we are trained to do.
Like, are you really that impressed that we do?
Like, this is our job, like on the regular.
Like, is it that impressed?
I don't know.
But I appreciate the love and the support.
Like, they're like, yeah, he didn't crash the plane.
You're like, no shit.
Well, you were expecting that?
Like, yeah.
What were you guys expecting?
Oh my gosh.
Wait, that annoys me too.
I wouldn't die to hear your pilot voice because you know how they all sound the same.
Somebody said, can you not talk so close to the mic that it's muffled
and we can't understand.
Roger that.
Welcome aboard United Flight 7.8.
What is that?
Why do all people shuffle their voices and go,
uh,
in between everything?
That's a great question.
I don't know,
but you are so right.
We do do that.
I've probably been guilty of doing that many times.
I think I picked up for my flight instructor.
Like he would always just like Cliff Parkill
and just like the epitome of that kind of voice on the radio.
And it just,
it was so funny.
I don't know if it's just like our.
brain is like we're doing you're multitasking so much like when we're when we're talking on the radio we're also monitoring all our instruments and you know you're listening to ATC on another frequency so maybe our brain is just like we're maximizing our ability and we just need that little uh to like group and think about yeah maybe that's it that makes complete multitasking I was looking for an answer and that might be have you seen the family guy episode where quagmire is the pilot and he does it for like an obnoxious amount of time I yeah just like nonstop yeah I have
Yeah. We got to work on that. That's become a thing.
It is such a thing. Okay. You go.
all right um can we not this is like my biggest pet peeve is when like it's mainly one on the
passenger is when like we land you hear the seatbelt sign get clicked off you can feel the airplane
stopped seatbelt signs off and immediately everyone gets up into the aisle that are behind you
to try to rush in front of you and i'm just like why do you think that you're supposed to get off
the plane before people in front of you like just wait your turn it's etiquette it's etiquette
plain etiquette and it makes me so mad because one person said to me it just happened to me the other day
they got up and the students and they went to get in front of me and they're i was like oh excuse you
and they said i i have to make a connection i said so do i how do you know that everyone does
we all have connections you ding dong it's just like and and just like i always like i always make
sure like a point of like no i'm gonna like i'm not we're not rushing off the airplane it's going to be at least
five minutes before the door is attached the door opens and and we're all you know everyone in front of us has
gotten off. So I sit, make a point of like sitting down. And then the second that my row clears out,
I immediately hop up and I'm like, nope, I'm there. Like I cut them off there. I'm like,
guys, why do you? It's just annoying. I know what you mean. This is one where I just, I can't get over
people do this and that nobody has like that it's just not like a rule at this point or like a law.
But can you not take your shoes and socks off? Like, how are you sitting there and go to the
bathroom sometimes? People are sitting there. I had a man sitting next to me picking
his toenails with bare feet. That's disgusting. Have you ever had? Have you ever that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, there should be like a rule against that. That's not cool. You ever had like when someone's they put their, especially with no shoes. I don't know if it's worse with no shoes on or shoes on. But like if you're on the window seat and they put their feet like on the armrest right behind you and you can feel it like touching your elbow. I'm like, are you kidding me right now. Yeah. I don't know how people do like in your own home. Sure, put do whatever you want with your feet. But in public and in like an enclosed.
space with other people feet you're walking in poo pee dirt like all the grossest things in the
world are on the bottom of your shoes i don't and a bare feet are just nasty in general but on an
airplane if i just i can't if if that was ever me and i was like a first time flyer and i thought
it was acceptable i would hope somebody would sit me down and be like you can't do that like you
cannot do yeah i've seen people bare feet put their feet up on the freaking screen on like the tv
screen and just like rest their feet like that i'm like is how do you not how you're not embarrassed by that
like how do you raised you who raised you yeah it's that's wild okay you go can we not freak out
from a little bit of turbulence when you see like the wing shake like there it's it's so funny
like i i and i get it you know i i know people have phobias and different fears but just so you guys
can all hear it from a pilot airplanes are designed to withstand so much more than they will
lever encounter. And I mean that going through turbulence. We have so many systems, so much redundancy
built into all of our systems where if there's a failure, there's a backup. There's a backup to the
backup. All you got to think of is going through turbulence. The wing shaking is going down a bumpy
road and there is absolutely nothing to worry about. I promise you that. I actually enjoy
turbulence. I'm one of those. I'm like, yeah, it's fun. I can like sleep through turbulence
actually. But it's funny because a girl wrote in and said, can you not just casually ignore extreme
turbulence, but I am the same way as you.
I'm like, can you not freak out about turbulence?
No, yeah, I'm with you on that.
And it's funny, when I was little, I would like, I was the same way.
I'd always, like, put my hands up when I'd fly with my mom and, like, act like we were
on a roller coaster with turbulence.
Yeah.
I enjoyed it, but.
Okay, my last one is, I'm trying to pick from a few, but okay, wait, I have two more.
Okay, my, my second last one is, can you not make me feel bad for ordering another drink?
I feel like sometimes flight attendants make me feel like I'm judged.
inconvenience and I'm like I feel so terrible too because I don't like when people think
I'm annoying so I have like this paranoia but if I want another drink or if I'm like need
something I'm like oh god I'm so sorry like I refuse to raise the button you press the button
you don't do it no no okay I don't I never do that I feel too bad because I'm like I already
feel like an inconvenience but I don't like to be made to feel like one I wish that they could
see how hard I'm trying to not be annoying and then not make me feel even worse I I get that
you know what you should do is you know flight sentence are very social i love chatting and just go up to
like the galley and just like go go talk have a conversation with them and you know maybe ask
him for a drink there like i think yeah that would get rid of those feelings but i was going to ask
you what is one thing we can do because i said this on my instagram the other day i always feel so bad
also for pilots and flight attendants because you are dealing with people who are so entitled
who think like that the weather and them missing a flight is your fault like there's a lot of
people who get angry on flights. I'm like, what can we do for you guys to make your day better?
Oh, wow. It's, uh, I mean, that's a good question. Honestly, I, it's mainly the flight attendants,
right? They're like the face of the airline. They're who you're going to see every single
flight for us. You know, we, we maybe get to interact with passengers right before, like when we're
pre-flight in our airplane and the door is open. But the second that, that cockpit door closes,
like word detached. So yeah, with flight attendants, you know, just, yeah, showing them some grace and
compassion and, you know, patience, you know, there's a lot of people, obviously on an
airplane that they have to tend to and make sure they're comfortable and everything. Obviously,
safety is always the number one priority. So everything else comes second to that. But I always,
you know, I try to bring like box of chocolates. So I fly, you know, stand by a lot of the times.
We're not, you know, just a benefit of being an airline employee. So, you know, they love
receiving a nice box of chocolates before a flight, just like out of, you know, gratitude,
appreciation for everything they do. That's always a nice gesture. That's a good idea. I'm going to do
that my next flight. I like that. And then the most controversial thing, they'll hook you up. We'll
take care of you. Okay, can I be on your buddy pass? Just kidding. That was another person's
can you not? They're like, just because I work at an airline, can you not ask to be my buddy
and have a buddy pass? That's funny. That's one of the perks, one of the best perks.
I bet. Okay, the most controversial thing I'm going to ask you this whole podcast. Here it is.
Oh boy. Don't get me in trouble. No, what is your take on reclining your chair and keeping the
window up or down in the window seat? Okay. So window seat, I,
am all is i don't even know is this like annoyance to keep it up i think because the sun comes in it depends
because i always i'm always full up really oh so we wouldn't be good flying partners okay
just like you have window or aisle window always i i take window just for the view obviously i
always a nerd out and i i mean i i i actually find it quite rude and like i'm like really like
how are you not impressed enough by like us accelerating on a runway it's about a hundred
160, 170 knots to then rotate and fly away from the earth and like see the whole ground just
like separate from you. And then, you know, climbing through clouds and, you know, and seeing a
beautiful sunset. Like, how do you not, how you not just like jaw dropped every single flight
with your like face glued to the window staring outside? And now it's like every, every airplane
has every, you know, entertainment console and the back seats and phones and Wi-Fi. So it's like,
man, I, I love to kind of decompress on airplanes and like get away from technology.
and just enjoy. So I'm always, sorry, I'm a windows up kind of guy.
I totally understand that part of it. I'm all about the takeoff, the sunsets. I love,
I love every part of that. I'm just more of a sleeper on a plane. And so I prefer the window
because I like to have control, whether it's up or down, but I read my audience. So I will see if
the person next to me is trying to see out the window and enjoying it, I'm not going to shut it on
them. If I see that they're trying to sleep. That's cool. Yeah. If I see they're trying to sleep and
it's bright. I'm like, oh, sorry. Like,
I'll, like, put it down for them.
I'm very Canadian on airplanes, and I feel so guilty every time I recline my chair,
but let me tell you, I'm going to recline it every time.
There wouldn't be recliners on a plane if you weren't supposed to lean back.
Listen, it's true.
Like, I, I'm a taller guy.
Like, I, some, like, I'm, you know, 6'3 and, like, people recline on me all the time.
It's, it is what it is.
I get that that would suck as a tall person.
I'm just small, so I don't, I don't care when people recline, but I always recline because
I'm like, well, I want to lay back.
I want to be comfortable.
I think for this.
I totally get that.
Exactly.
You pay for it.
And like, you know, if there's other seats you can get like with more legroom, too.
So it's like you can't, I don't think you can fault people for reclining and trying to just get like a, you know, knock out a little bit and get some sleep.
But I appreciate that.
The politeness, your Canadian politeness for the window shades.
It does not go on notice.
So I get that.
Yeah, there you go.
Well, I want people to comment for this podcast because I remember seeing this online once and people were fighting in the comments about if the window should be up or not or if you should recline your chair.
So I want to know what everybody thinks in the comments.
And I also want to just say thank you for taking the time and talking to me today.
I have missed your face and it was so good to catch up and you crushed it on the season.
I actually thought you were going to win.
Oh, I appreciate that.
I wish I could have.
Who knows?
Maybe I'll get a second chance for redemption there.
I'd love to see you on it.
That would be awesome.
So pulling for you and I had a blast.
Thank you so much.
And I'm excited to see what's next for you.
Awesome.
Thanks, Caitlin.
Appreciate it.
I'm Caitlin Bristow.
I'll see you next Tuesday.
See your next Tuesday.
