Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Ramen & Pinot Tell All Through Jessica Lanyadoo, Animal Communicator

Episode Date: June 21, 2022

What’s one of KB’s biggest birthday wishes? Talking to Ramen & Pinot, of course! So today, we got the closest we could as Jessica Lanyadoo, astrologer, psychic medium, animal communicator, and podcast host, joins Kaitlyn to give her all the deets about her two boys. Jessica first tells us about her background and what it’s like to live with this gift. Even though it might seem like a dream, she shares why some animals just don’t want to communicate with us and which animals are “total dicks.” Then, she taps in to speak with Ramen, Kaitlyn’s ride or die guy, and Pinot, who has a few preferences that may just surprise you. These two pups are very different and today they’re revealing what makes for a perfect day with K&J and what makes for a total ‘no bones’ day. Jessica is not holding back on sharing what the golden guys (or girl?) are really thinking. Birthday wish granted!  STARBUCKS - STARBUCKS BAYA Energy drink is available online, at grocery stores, convenience stores, and gas stations nationwide. BIRDY GREY - Go to BirdyGrey.com and use code VINE for three free swatches and free shipping. LONDRE BODYWEAR - Londre is offering $17 off your first order at londrebodywear.com with code OTV17.  PROGRESSIVE - Quote at Progressive.com to join the over 27 million drivers who trust Progressive. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Welcome to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Get ready to laugh, connect, and feel empowered with Caitlin and her guests as they sip wine. Lots of wine. And get candid. They say vulnerability creates connection. So save the highlight reel for Instagram because when we're among Vino's, there's no filter. It's time to unwind. Here's your host, Caitlin Bristow. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. I don't even want to do too much of an intro because I just want you to start hearing this woman speak. Her name is Jessica Lignato. She is an astrologer, a psychic medium, and most importantly today, she is an animal communicator with more than 25 years consulting experience. She blew my mind. She knew things about my dogs that I didn't even

know, but made a whole lot of sense once I figured them out. I feel like I'm going to be a better dog mom because of this episode. And I just think it was the most magical thing I could have ever asked for for a birthday podcast. So if you want to really get to know, Rahman and Pino, keep listening. Hello. Nice to meet you, Jessica. I already am so just into your whole vibe. Those glasses are amazing. Thank you so much.

I really appreciate it. And I love everything that's going on with you. Is that a wallpaper? It is a wallpaper. It's very impressive. Thanks. You know what? You know what's actually crazy is the woman that I found randomly on like a Facebook page

when I first moved here was the only person I could find that. that would install wallpaper. And she ended up telling me about all about my energy and that like I had bad energy with my now ex. And I now go over to her house all the time because she has a crystal shop. And she like amazing. She staged me before I went on dancing with the stars.

And she did this whole thing with me about winning in my mindset. And I won. So congratulations. And also super random. Awesome. I love that. That's where the wallpaper came from. And I just remembered that story right now.

It's great. And also, like, I have had wallpaper, like, I've put up wallpaper in my home and I will say, it's like a whole thing. Oh, it's a whole thing. It's not for the faints of heart. It's really not Wanda. That's her name. She's amazing.

That's props to Wanda is what we're going to say. Yes. Yes, exactly. She's amazing. Well, I cannot tell you how excited I am to meet you and talk to you. I'm friends with Leslie, who's Doug the Pugs mom. yes and she's just she's been sending me all these notes and messages about how incredible you are and suggest for me and how what to ask in certain things so i'm just i'm so excited it's my

birthday on june 19 and so i'm like birthday thank you i'm like the gift to myself will be being able to for you to communicate with my dogs they're my babies they are my everything so i'm like i always joke that i grew them in my stomach because i can't think of them not being like from my loins. That's amazing. Slightly, ew, but 100% yes. That's what my fiance says. He's always like, you're so gross. Yeah. But also, you know, I get it. Like, I get it. Do you want to have a human, like, non-furry baby from your loins as well? I feel like that makes more sense why you don't think it's gross because you're just like fur, not fur. Like, who cares? My baby. Yeah. I respect that. I don't respect that. I knew you. I knew you were.

You're able to communicate. You've been doing this for, what, 25 years? 1994 is when I started my private practice. Holy. Long time. Long time. Yeah. How did you discover that you could do this? Was it something that you just had felt since young age and then tapped into? Because I feel like that's a big part of, I feel like, people who have this gift. They always knew like something was inside of them, but then once they tapped into it, it got like they were able to kind of evolve there.

Yeah. It's like one of those things like when you use a muscle, you strengthen the muscle, right? And so it's like if you don't use a muscle, even if you're naturally strong, it doesn't do much. But I didn't believe in psychics or animal communicators or anything like that until I had so many undeniable experiences.

So yeah, so I started off as an astrologer and I really like undeniably couldn't ignore it anymore. probably my, like at the end of my 20s, the start of my 30s. Yeah. So it's, it's been a long time that I've been doing this, but I've always just been into some form of woo. So yeah, so that's how that's how it happened.

And I just, it got to a point where I, it was just so obvious. It was happening. It was so undeniable that it was happening that I couldn't, like there was something I could do about it. Yeah, you had to just surrender. You couldn't keep fighting back. Correct. Correct.

Correct. Correct. Yeah. I was like, okay, fine logic. Shut up. This is what's happening. Yeah. And I feel like if I had that gift, I would have a lot more than two dogs.

Like I feel like I would like turn into this person who just like lived it on a farm. But I was one with the animals. I mean, I would. You think. But then just here's the annoying thing. Just because you can communicate with animals does not mean they want to communicate with you. Oh. Yeah.

So they might actually not. Okay. So I had this one woman. I'm blanking on her name. When I first got my first dog, I talked to this woman, Sally, her name is Sally. And she was able to communicate with ramen for me. And I haven't done it with Pino. But I didn't know that. I didn't know that they might not want to. I didn't even think about that. Yes. I have two cats. One of them, he actually adopted me. He was feral. And he adopted me one day. And he loves communicating. He's very communicative, very talkative, very receptive, very receptive. And my other cat who's a rescue from a shelter, she gives, I would say, 0.05, like not 0.000, but, but like very few, very, very few. And so sometimes she's receptive to communicating, but most of the time she's not. And it's just her personality. And this is the thing, like, and a lot of times people think of animal communication and they're like, oh, my God, it's like you get to talk to all the animals. Different animals have different values, different kind of things they're interested in. and also they're just like people.

Some of them you don't want to talk to and some of them don't want to talk to you. That's fair enough. I guess I just thought of all animals being like these, like they just deep down wish they could speak our language and just want to talk about all day. Not even a little bit. Yeah.

My dogs want to talk to me. Well, I'll tell you as soon as I tap in, but I will before I do say bunnies are so cute. Bunny rabbits, I find to be some of the cutest animals in the world. And when I started communicating with bunnies, most of the bunnies I've talked to have been total dicks. Just like total dicks. And I was really shocked by that. But I was just like, just because I, a human thinks a bunny is like soft and cute and I want to snuggle it doesn't mean that they have all the attributes that we as humans project onto them.

I'm not saying that all the bunnies are dicks. But all the bunny, I would say every bunny except for one that I've ever talked to has been kind of a dick. Holy. I think we like paint this picture of them from like Disney movies that they're these silly bunnies. They're just so cute and friendly. But I've known a couple asshole bunnies myself, to be honest with you. Not from communicating, just from knowing that this animal is a dick. Kind of a dick. Yeah. That's the thing is like we can idealize babies and animals because they can't talk back. Right. But you know, just because you're, yeah, just because you're nonverbal doesn't mean you're like a great guy or something. Yeah. Fair enough. So do you want me to just try to check in with your dogs? I would love that. They're right. I've got one on one side, one on the other. So what are their names? So I've got ramen over here and Pino. Oh, Pino's right underneath me. So, okay, hold on. Say your name. Caitlin. No, no, your full name? Oh, Caitlin Don Bristow. Okay. And then your older dog is ramen? Yes. And say what's ramen's full name? Like, what do you actually call ramen?

Raman noodle or Wommies. We call him Womys. Okay, that's the name. That's the name. I'm like, I'm not getting it. Okay. So he's an older guy. Yeah.

He's like a square. He's such a square. He's like a loaf of bread that hasn't been sliced. Just a big old loaf of bread. Okay. So you call him, what's the name you actually call him? It's not ramen. It's.

Whamies. Okay, thank you. Hold on. Okay. So. He's very, is he a little deaf? Oh, gosh, I don't know. How does he respond to you verbally?

Well, he definitely hear, he might not hear us very well, but he definitely hears us sometimes. We thought he just had selective hearing where he just chooses when to listen to us and when not. You think it's selective hearing. I wonder if he's a little depth out of one year. I'm really bad psychically telling the difference between left and right, but I'm getting it on my left,

but literally, it's a 50-50 if I'm right about that. Okay. I think he's a little bit of a hearing. issue. Does his breed of dog have a lot of wax build up in their ear? Yes. I wonder if you need to take him into the vet more frequently to deal with that wax build up. Yeah. Every time we go in, they tell us it's a problem. It's a problem. I think that is impeding his hearing, especially out of one ear. And because of his hearing issue, he's a little bit, like he likes to stay close to you because he feels safe with you. And so straight out the gate when I try to connect with him, he's a little like,

Wait a minute. Wait. Wait. You're coming from where? What? Wait. Like, he's a little disoriented, which I've actually never encountered before. But it's because he's got this, like, defense system that he has set up. I think he's had hearing issues for many years. Have you had him for many years? We've had him for three years. Okay. Yeah, it feels like it's getting progressively worse. And I can't tell if it's actually like an eardrum issue for it's just wax. Okay. but the wax bugs him too. So separate from the hearing, it's also just like itchy and uncomfortable. So I would definitely tend to that. He's a little, it's weird.

It's like I want to say he's shy, but he's not shy. So it's a little confusing. But he's like a little like, he needs it to be on his own terms. Like he needs to come to you. And then he's like all over you. Does that make,

yeah, that makes sense, eh? Yeah. Yeah. He's a very happy dog. There's been some like, restlessness in your life recently that he's concerned about. So it's kind of like worrying him. Do you know what that's, do you know what that's referencing? I mean, yeah. I get like that at least once a month. Okay. Okay. So yeah, because he's he's just like when you, are you ready to get personal? Yes. Go there. Go there with anything. So when you get like that. And I, you know, I agree when I'm looking at this energetically, it's like you get like that. Right. Like when you, when you go. there it's like a mental emotional health stuff thing it's really an emotional thing but it comes becomes

a mental health thing when you go there you kind of become so consumed with how you're feeling that you aren't as like check in with whoever's around you because you're really consumed by what's happening internally and he gets freaked out by that a little bit gets scared um and it's not like he's scared you're going to do something to him he's more scared i think a little bit for you he's protective for you he doesn't know how to take care of of you. And he's also, that's it. It's just that he doesn't know how to pull you out. And when you're like that, you feel like scared that you're not going to come out of it, even if it happens every single month. The feelings are like, this is it. This is how I'm going to be forever.

And it really, it hurts him, you know. Um, he's very emotional. He's, he's very tapped into you. Um, and when you get like that, do you get very annoyed with your partner? Because he gets very annoyed with your partner too he's just like that person's our enemy so um for whatever that's worth that is like a thing that's happening regularly and did this just happen recently like in the past week this kind of episodey thing that happens for you well this past week has just been a whole episode it's been on it's okay it's been a rough week because he's just like if you ever do need to burn the house down and run away he will be your accomplice for sure all right vinos the sweet soft the vine is brought to you by a starbucks bio energy drink which is

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So you do leave. You don't take him with you anymore. I used to until the airlines changed their. I see. Okay. Because he's kind of a bigger loaf of bread. He's not a purse dog. No, he's not.

No. He's like a duffel bag dog. Yeah. He hates it when you leave. First of all, he's personally offended. It's not just that his feelings are hurt. he's like, we have a thing, you're leaving our thing and you're leaving me with him. He's not like against, do you say fiancé?

Is that what you called him? Okay. He's not against your fiance, but he's not consistently for him. I know why. I mean, because so at the beginning when we rescued him, my fiance wasn't here. And so I was the one that picked him up from the airport and we like immediately bonded. And they were like, well, it might not be love at first sniff. Like it's a rescue dog.

and it was love at first snap. Oh, that's really sweet. Slash also, yeah, he doesn't need your partner. And so he doesn't like being left behind because he's a dog and they generally don't. He doesn't like being left behind because you get anxious before you fly. And so you leave in this state that he is more attached to you in. Yeah, he would prefer that you would fly with him. Hold on.

And if you can't, I think my. My advice to you is to make a concerted effort to, like, do what you got to do. Take your CBD. Like, do what you got to do. Calm down. Sit on the floor with him. Connect. First connect to yourself and then connect to him.

Because what you're doing is in a state of kind of like manicness, trying to be like, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Just calm down. I'll be back. I promise. And he's just responding to your energy, which is like you're scattered and anxious. And he knows what happens when you're scattered and anxious. and anxious, it goes to this other place.

And when it goes to this other place, he attaches himself to you to protect you. But when you leave, everything is different and it's unpredictable. It's not the same every time. So it's really disruptive to him. Like he doesn't get it. Yeah. Other than his hearing, I'm not seeing any health issues. I mean, I think he has some stuff like tightness in his joints.

But again, it feels like a breed issue to me. What kind of dog is he? Golden Retriever. Oh, he's a golden retriever. I would have thought he was smaller than a golden retriever. Well, he is small. He's very small for a golden retriever. Okay.

Okay. That makes sense because he definitely does not seem like, I mean, those are kind of big dogs, but this is a mid-sized dog. Yeah. He's really, like when we got him, he was 46 pounds. Oh, my. So small for a golden. Oh, my.

Okay. So he's, is he golden? Yeah. Oh, see, he showed himself to me as kind of being darker. He thinks he hides under the radar. He doesn't think. He's noticeable. And that's kind of how he prefers it until he says he wants attention.

So his health is fine. His food is good. There's one treat that you give him that he wishes he had more of. It's kind of a long biscuit-y thing. Could be me. I can't tell it's just brown looking. But it's like oval and long. Okay.

Not crazy long, but like, it's not round. It looks like bacon strip almost. Okay, that's the thing. He would like more of that, please. Okay. And does he share water with your other dog? Yes. Not a fan.

So he would like multiple water bowls in multiple locations. It's so funny that you said that. So we were washing their water bowls. So I had a water bowl in another spot and my other dog, Pino, couldn't figure out where it was. And ramen seemed like he was so happy that. He feels that your other dog is, like, slobby and messy and smells weird. A different breed of dog, is that right? It's not, but it's so, they're so different.

And Pino is slobbery and smelly and different. Yeah, yeah. It's not that he doesn't care for him because he does. They're both boys. Yeah. I mean, it's not that he doesn't care. for him because he does, but he would prefer to be above your other dog

physically and to not share bowls. And sometimes he's just like, oh my God, go away. But he really loves his life. He's very tentative with me. He's very like, I'm going to give you the information because she wants the information, but I don't know you. You know, I feel like that's how he is with, which is not how most golden retrievers are, but he's,

he's, he's, he's like an introvert that when he warms up is like super warm and friendly. Yeah. You know? Do you have any questions for him? Because I feel like he's, I mean, he's told you what he wanted you to know. But what are your questions? I want, he does this like crazy cry.

Like it's like a high pitched, not just the bark. Like he cries and like hangs on to us sometimes. Like he'll like lightly grab our wrist and just cry and cry and cry. He used to do it in the middle of the night. He doesn't do it anymore. And he'll do that if we, even if we leave for like an hour and come back, he'll do that. And if he hears specific sirens, not just like a siren could be going by and it won't even face him, but like there's specific sirens that make him just howl. Yeah.

So was he abandoned? Yes. Yeah. So that's the, that's the biting thing. It's not biting, but like that's the like holding you thing. Sometimes he gets emotional about it. Sometimes you do things that are like the human. humans he was with before, and it triggers him.

I think that when he was abandoned, he was abandoned in a structure, in a house, eh? I don't know. I don't know that. It looks like he was abandoned somewhere. Like, not, he wasn't on the streets. And if he was, it wasn't at first. Okay. I think he spent a fair amount of time alone, honestly, as a dog, like, in his last situation.

And so he gets, he just gets triggered. Um, sometimes you go really far away in your head. Um, and your partner's kind of always far away in his head. And it, it scares him. It's, because it's like, it was like a foreshadowing for what happened. Yeah. Um, so he does want you to be there. He wants you to be there. You know what I mean? And you're just, your whole entire personality is not going to change to make him feel better. But in those moments, what you want to do is like, really. Like, have you ever done Pilates? Yeah.

Okay. So you know how to isolate your core, right? Yeah. Okay. So kind of like do that same physical thing, but then focus on like breathing into your core and bringing all your energy into your core so that your energy is in your body. And then soothe him. So if you're more present when you're soothing him, he will feel better.

If you're sleeping and he wakes you up, you're not going to sue them at all. Like if you're distracted and you're trying to finish an email and he's and he's like freaking out, you're not going to sue them at all. He needs your presence. Um, so you say you want a baby, honey, you have a baby. Uh, you have a real toddler here. And, um, oh, sorry, that offended him a little because he considers himself to be very mature. He is.

But he's also very, um, he's just like emotionally really tender. He's had, he's gone through. He's lived some life. And it's, that's what that is. Do you know how like old approximately he is? Does he know how old he is? Let me just make sure I'm hearing this right. Yeah.

Um, he thinks he's around six. that's what I thought. Yeah, he thinks he's wrong. And is that the same with like he's so barky lately, like barks and he won't stop. And he wasn't always like that, but now he'll bark at dog parks. He'll bark like at anything. And he's just really loud and aggressive like bark-wise, not in any other way. And I feel like I can't stop.

And it's been a couple months. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's this hearing. Hmm. I think he doesn't hear himself the same way. So he's being louder. I think also he doesn't hear as well.

So he's more vulnerable. He can't protect himself because he doesn't have that sense. I, again, I think it could just be a wax buildup. So you might be able to really help him. Okay. If you, you know, bring him to the vet and they deal with the wax in his ear and then the barking goes down, then you can instantly know, you know, what it is and what it isn't. But that, it doesn't feel like he's like there's some other issue.

It just feels like he's, he's just being himself. Okay. Yeah. I have a couple other things written down that I wanted to ask. Yeah, he only does that crying thing with certain people. It's me. He does it for my fiance. It's mostly women that he like really attaches himself to and gets really emotional with like in a way where you're like, oh, my gosh, he loves that person.

Yeah. I mean, he doesn't prefer men. Who does? No. Nobody. I mean, some people do, but it's confusing. So he doesn't prefer men in general. And that winding thing is all the people that he does this with have this thing in common

of having a hard time staying emotionally present sometimes. And so that's when he's doing it. So if you're hanging out with one of your friends and he starts doing that to her, you can know she's like kind of going through a moment with something. And that could be just like the world is on fire and she's stressed out. It could be like she just started like she got a DM from somebody and it made her feel a certain kind of way. it could be any number it doesn't have to be something crazy deep it just that's what triggers him okay that's that's what like brings this up for him i really smother him like i will just like stare at him sleeping and

like kiss he likes that he loves it okay yeah but again it's like think about that right the contrast between your smother love and when you be when you're so in your head and you're feeling anxious it's like a chasm in between those two things. So that's the ish. If you're looking for an ish, that's your ish. So if there's a reason to not smother him, it's only to give him a little more consistency. Yeah.

It's not because he doesn't like being smothered. He very much does. By you, not by your partner. Okay. He really has something about your, what's your partner's name? Jason. What's Jason's last name? Tardick.

Jason's a nice guy. Yeah, you're, Jason. gets really in his head and Jason gets really fixated on a problem does he work from home or work for himself or something? Yeah.

Yeah, both. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, it looks like he gets fixated on a problem and until the problem's completed or like he makes him sort of headway, he's just a pain in the ass to be around. And it really bothers ramen, like a lot.

Yeah. Because he's so not there, even though he's physically there. And it's just like, it makes ramen feel like, okay well then if you're not there fine you're not there you know what i mean like i'm i'm giving it like a sinister edge ramen actually does not have a sinister edge about this at all uh i'm but but that is what's happening yeah so if i may jason would do well especially if you guys

do want human babies to get slightly better at communicating his availability and physically removing himself from situations when he can't be present so as to not upset the you or the Raman of the situation. That's good advice. Yeah, I feel, I feel, I feel good about it. That was from me, not from Raman. But it was inspired by Raman, so. Yeah.

No, I feel like that. And you can say, like, even if you want to call me out for anything, I'm fine with it. His only thing is the way you respond to, it's really your emotions. And then it becomes mental anxiety. But it's not, you don't have any, I don't know if you think you have an anxiety disorder, but I do not think you have an anxiety disorder. but when you feel anxious, it's very overwhelming. But it's really emotional is really what it is.

And I mean, of course, I'm saying this is according to Raman, but I trust Raman. Because Raman pays very close attention to you and is there for everything. I mean, Jason even will say that himself. Like, if I'm gone, he's like, Raman just isn't the same with you. He's not. He's not. He would like to go with you everywhere. Do you think he would be able to, like, because he was always an emotion. emotional support animal. That's how he was able to go on planes. Do you think he has the like ability to be able to get trained to be like a service animal to fly? I would be, I don't know how rigorous that is. He's not a consistently obedient dog. Right. So I don't know that that would work. But I don't know how rigorous it is. Like what, you know, people, people don't know how to drive well and they have driver's licenses. So I don't know if that is the same thing for dogs.

So, yeah, but it depends. It depends. And then is there, is there like a favorite memory that Raman has? Dogs don't, I've never met a dog who's given me a memory. They'll communicate things to me that are important that have happened in the past, but no, I've never had a dog. Tell me about a memory. Okay. I love to say his health is good because I always worry about him just because he is the older one and he's got like just joint, like hip stuff.

Yeah. but that is also it's hip and knees it's it's it's like it's it's it's it's all it's all his he's stiff he's a little stiff yeah yeah what can we do to help him with that he doesn't like being patted on the bat the butt um jason does that sometimes um yeah um he doesn't like it he understands it it it's like a nice thing so he tolerates it like he thinks he knows jason thinks it's nice but it hurts um it's not like ouch but it's dogs have a really high tolerance for pain and discomfort, different than we do. When he tells you he doesn't want to walk, you should let him stop walking.

If you're asking him, that's because he tells you sometimes he doesn't want to walk. And you're like, come on. And he doesn't want to walk because he's having like inflammation. Okay. You know, sometimes arthritis feels like arthritis. And sometimes it feels like inflammation. With him, it feels like inflammation. His system gets inflamed.

Do you live somewhere like humid? Yes. We're in natural. It's really humid here. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. On humid days, it's a no bones day. That's what's happening. You know what I mean? So I just think his joints are harder. And it's not just humid days. It's for a couple days after humid days. Okay. But the main complaint that he's showing me is his hearing. Okay. Yeah. And he's, again, really likes clean water. So let's separate those water bowls. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I love that.

Oh, he's going to be so happy. Obviously, he knows just, like, how obsessed with him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he knows, you know. There's no issues to be resolved here outside of his hearing. Okay.

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He feels like he's a girl, first of all. He's got a very, like, feminine self-ident. Lots of dogs that I encounter have no care about gender whatsoever. Right. Just like lots of people. But he does feel a little confused by this, like, big boy thing that he gets. Is he big? He's bigger. Well, it's funny because he's like, I think he just had maybe some like growing issues because

of his humble beginnings, I always say. So it feels like he never really grew into his full body. So he's got like comically large paws and like a big head. Oh, that sounds very cute. I'm going to say she just because it's easier for my brain, if you don't mind. She's really such a different person than. Rahman, like remarkably a different person. She's really friendly, like easy with a smile, has a real chillness.

But there is like a sadness there with her. Have you noticed that about her? Yeah, sad eyes almost and like, like maybe even like, I don't know, like lost a little. Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm, yeah. I think what this dog would like is to be rushed more. and told that she's pretty more. Not like a cute boy or whatever. Like I feel like that kind of like doting bows and the hair attention,

I actually think is the kind of attention that what do you call the stocky game? Pino. Well, Pino, but yeah, Pino, Pino G, Pini. Pini. Okay, Pini. That's the one that I'm hearing happens the most. Okay. They like kind of like one-on-one chill attention time. They like that around people. They're not like scared of people. I think that people like Pino a lot. But there's something. They like chill time. They like like pretty time. Okay. Do you brush her a lot? Not a not a lot, but I should more because enjoy.

it like fully like so much so much and it's not just about i'll say it's about you slowing down and taking the time to be like oh my god you're so pretty i'm going to make sure you feel pretty like that is actually something that she likes so much and i think you know cares about ramen and also they have like they have space between the two of them it's it's interesting like I'm really feeling Pino's sadness. And I'm trying to let me just take a moment and not be so communicative for a second. Let me just tap it and see what it is.

Yes, please. Is this also a rescue dog? Yes. Does somebody die? I don't know. I get the feeling that somebody died. They suffered a great loss. Yeah.

Is Pino really close to Jason? He's like more of Jason. Yeah. More adjacent stock. Yeah. there's a way that Pino belonged to their person before that he doesn't belong to either of you. Like the way that Raman belongs to you.

Pino doesn't have like a home in the same way. Your home is he a newer dog for you? Newer than Raman, but yeah, probably like a year and a half, two years. But also, I know this is going to sound ridiculous, but Pino likes to be read too. Like Pino likes downtime. Yeah. Like brushing being read to like he.

And when I say being read to, it's like he likes it when you talk to him, like on purpose talk to him. Yeah. And I don't think you or Jason do that so much. Okay. But I'm guessing when you brush him, you are talking to him really like calmly and intentionally. And again, that's part of what she really likes. And this is like, this is part of why I'm like, oh, this dog has a girl vibe because all she wants to do is like hang out in your bedroom and like get her hairbrushed and like talk. Do you know what I mean? Like she's got a very tender vibe. Very tender. And she also has grief. Just like very real grief. And it's not from the two of you. I don't know. Oh, my God. Oh, that's a gorgeous puppy. Is that? Pino. That's Pino. Oh, I see. And I see the sad face.

bit, but she's gorgeous. Okay, hold on. Let me see what, let me see this. She's seriously a gorgeous dog. Yeah, I can feel the grief. It feels exactly like her little face looks. Like, it's just like a, I mean, if she was into philosophy, she'd be into Camus. Do you know what I mean?

Like, she just is like very aware of like the futility of life. If you, if you feel like really invested in wanting to like help her more of what you're doing now, like more of just like. Like on purpose, snuggling, like, gentle snuggling. She doesn't like rough housing. She's not that kind of dog. She's not like a dog you want to bring into a shop. You know what I mean?

Like a workspace. Yeah. She's very tender and very, do they have their own beds? No, they sleep in our bed. Oh, they do have crates that they used to go in. Like big, big, huge, like bed crates. I wonder if she would do well if you created a like a cushy spot that was for her to sleep in. Because she really does sleep, doesn't she?

You know, genuinely sleeps on my head snoring, like a deep sleeper. Yes. Yeah. Look at it. This is the sweetest dog. I mean, what is this? Is this like normal everyday behavior? Yeah, a lot of times.

Just very. and like it's either this or um ball obsessed like obsessed but if the ball isn't around then this is what yeah this is the sweetest thing and will she fall asleep like this yeah she really likes having like deep snuggles like this kind of like this depth of snuggle yeah she it's it's because she's like telling me what it is and she has actually experiencing that you care what it is because she has like, yeah, a little bit of a, not depression, but like a sadness about her. So she's like, I don't know what you care. Like, I don't know. You know what I mean? Like she's just, she's not sure. Um, hold on.

And you're keeping her forever, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Hold on for a moment. Let me just let her know. Uh, she knows, she knows about your closeness with. Raman, I won't say she's jealous, but she knows that if Ramin wasn't there, you would have that closeness with her. Oh. And Jason just isn't that kind of person. He could be. He's just not.

Yeah. He's very, like, he's obsessed with them and, and, and, and, and, and, and, but he is very like, I don't know how to say it. Like, like, like, work distracted, I guess. He's, uh, he's, uh, the first man ever to be emotionally distracted by work. It's stunning. No, sorry. That was sarcastic.

But, yeah, he, if, you know, could be snuggled on your lap with you gently caressing his hair all the time, that would be very good. That would be very, very good. Sweet. Is Raman also a snuggler? Only when he wants to be. Right. Right. When he decides.

Yeah. This dog will snuggle with you 24 hours a day. If permitted. Hold on. I think there's a part of. of her that has been scared that you wouldn't be around. Really?

I don't know if it's a fear of abandonment or of you dying or what it is, but I've just reassured her that you have every intention of being with her for the rest of her life no matter what. And that actually does make her feel better. So I'll be interested, you know,

let me know in the next couple months, like if there's a shift in the sadness vibes. I love. Yeah. Because if it's a ball, it's very much like it's almost like um like so distracting that nothing else matters and if the ball's gone it's this it's 20 that's very sweet i she's not telling me anything about the ball so i don't know anything about the ball like that it feels like irrelevant to her um but that might just be because

there's no ball here right now yes dogs are like that um but oh she does like it when you go in between her fingers. You're massaging her hand right now, yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She likes that. She doesn't like it when you do it to her feet, though. Like, so her back paws, she doesn't like it. The front paws, she does. So I won't say she, like, actively dislikes it when you touch her, her feet. But she loves it when you touch her hands. Is that why? Is that? So now I'm like, now I want to refer to her as a she because I know. Because she's such a, she's such a girly. person. I feel like if I stop doing anything,

it's paw, it's paw on the face in the, like, I always call it holding hands. She wants to, yeah, she wants you to, like, give her, like, a tender massage. Sometimes she wants you, like, actually, like, were you just, like, in the webs of her hands when I said that to you? Yeah, sometimes she really likes that. Like, right now, she really likes that. Sometimes she just likes, like, you do more of, like, a, like, a soft brushing of the

top of her paw. She likes that. But she wants you, everybody wants your attention. So she wants you to pay attention. She wants you to, like, be there with her. And she wants, this is one of those words like moist that some people just don't like, but she wants to be caressed. You know, that's what she wants.

She wants to be like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. This dog is ridiculously gorgeous. Like, ridiculously gorgeous. She doesn't care about sharing food or water, but I can see now that she's sloppery. Mm-hmm. Very. Hold on.

Her ears are fine. Her health is great. She's very healthy. She's much younger, eh? Yeah. We think so. We think so. How old? You've had her for three years, you said? Three years from ramen, about two possibly for peanut. Okay, because she thinks she's closer to three. Okay. That's, yeah, that's what I would guess. And the smell is not just her mouth. It's from her whole body, yeah?

Yes. It's like your sweat glands or somehow, like she's a little stinky. Yeah. But it just feels like her natural oils. It doesn't feel like something is wrong. Okay. That's good. And why Peanuts, Peanot doesn't bark ever, ever. That's lovely. But other times, like, maybe three times in Pino's whole life, we've heard, like, barking, like, woo.

Right. And when that happens, it's because something's happening, right? Yeah, it's like startled. Yeah. It's emotional for her. Like, she's just... She doesn't use her voice. It's like physical and it's emotional. She would like a kitten. Like she would like a puppy or a kitten, you know. But Rahman would not.

I always feel like that I agree with that. And I always say that I always think that Pino had a cat around or something because even the way Pino like walks across the back of the couch. I'm like, what are you a cat? Like a cat. Yeah. I feel like he would really love a kitten. He would love to have a cat to play with. and to snuggle with.

He really just wants to snuggle like a cat a lot. Rodman would be very annoyed by a cat. He would be fine, but he would be very annoyed. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any other questions for Pino? I'm trying to read the other.

Like, what's interesting is I asked Jason if he wanted to ask any questions. And he said ask them why Pino is more stuck to testosterone energy. Interesting. Yeah. I think it's just the attention. There's something about the attention. Gina just wants to be adored. Yeah.

Honestly. Like that's really like boy girl doesn't matter as long as she's being adored. And I know I keep on sheeing him, but it's just really like the vibes. Just such girly vibes. Yeah. Yeah. Raman is just like that makes so much sense. Yeah.

I've actually only met a couple animals who are like you are misgender. me, that is not what I am. That's not what Pino's saying, but it's very hard for me to interact with Pino and be like, oh, this is a boy. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Funny because between the two of them, I'll find that Pino doesn't even realize when he has alpha energy, he's not trying to. Like, he'll need to like go out the door first or like he tries to do that. And we always thought it was like this alpha energy. But really, Raman has more of the alpha energy. And I think Pino's, that's just Pino's personality. Are you just like enthusiastic and in her head?

Like she'll sometimes just run into things because she's just not thinking about the next step. She's thinking about this step. So she's just like, this is her personality. Yeah. Oh, what like genuinely, I think we got there with Pino, but what like makes Raman so happy? Hmm. Being brushed. Pino actually has musical preference.

and really dislike some of the music that's played in the house and really likes other of the music that's played in the house. Have you noticed? Can we find out which music he likes in your thing? Is somebody in the house into like metal or rock or something that's kind of like a harder guitar? I mean, I like rap, but. I am not being shown primarily bass.

I'm being shown primarily guitar. Hmm. Neither of you listen to guitar and music. Well, more like I'll put on country music. music a lot. Old country, new country. Both. Okay. It might be new country because I know old country tends to be a lot more acoustic and new country not as much. Yeah. I don't know that she's a fan of like heavy guitar. Okay. Rap does not look like a problem. Acoustic country does not look like a problem. But some music is very soothing. Do you ever listen to classic music?

In the car, I do a lot. Okay. And is she in the car with you? Sometimes, yeah. It's soothing. Again, I don't know if part of what she's showing me with her preferences is from her first home and not from you. She really likes classical music. She likes soothing music.

She likes music that's soothing. She gets a little overwhelmed when there's too much going on or it's too loud. The most, the thing that she's showing me the most is that she wants to sit in a beautiful room and and be crushed. Like that's literally like the thing. That is the thing that I keep on being shown. So nothing else stands out as much. Okay.

I'm going to do that every single day now. That's so nice. I'm so happy you will because she actually doesn't think you will. Really? Oh, I will show her. Okay, good. Okay, good. Because the whole time I've been saying this to you, I have this feeling of like,

I'm telling you, but it's not going to really matter because that's her feeling. Okay. I want to change my whole lifestyle. What I could have to do I'm going to do and make the dogs happen. I love that. Okay. Everything.

Yeah, no. That's great. I was hoping that they do like their food because I feel like it's like really good for them. So I'm hoping they do enjoy it, which I think they do because they seem to go crazy over it. Yeah. You know, ramen mentioned the food. Dogs usually mention the food. Pino has not mentioned the food, which means there's no problem.

But also, she's not as food motivated as most dogs. Mm-hmm. Yeah. If you were wanting to, like, train her, doing it through food wouldn't work as well as it would for other dogs. Yeah. Yeah. That's been actually part of the problem. I'm like, do I train peanut with a tennis ball?

Because I would bacon out there. And it just, it's like squirrel when we're outside. Yeah. She's not hungry all the time. And she has like a sense of food security. like she's not worried that there's a lack of food. So it's not appropriately motivating. Balls are very motivating.

Like, gentle attention is very motivating. Okay. So, I mean, one of the many reasons I don't have dogs. I mean, there's actually two reasons, but whatever. One of the reasons is that you have to be a disciplinarian. You know what I mean? You have to be a little tough. That it works, but she doesn't like it.

Yeah. It feels bad to her. most dogs don't feel bad with that kind of engagement. She does. Yeah. Yeah, I get that like very submissive to if you just raise your voice a little bit. Yeah. So affirming like, come here. Let me gently like put my fingers through your hair and then do the thing. Try it. See if that works. I don't know dog discipline enough to be like that will work. But that's basically what I would say. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, I wish I could think of a million questions. What is there any questions that people usually ask that I'm missing? Like, no, I don't think so. I think let me see if either of them have anything that they want to say that hasn't been said. I do think she would like her own bed like, like a cat bed.

You know what I mean? Like a big, fluffy, beautiful. I think she really likes your aesthetic. Like, so something that you think is pretty. Yeah. And I do think that she likes pink. That's so funny. There's this big, big, fluffy chair upstairs in this one room that we barely sit in.

But when we do, it's like this beautiful room. And when we're in there, you know, is in that fluffy chair. She really likes fluffy. Is it pink or like pastelli? It's like a cream, like white. Yeah, yeah. She prefers lighter colors to be on. Okay.

She's very, you can see why I'd be like sheing him, right? Because she's got a lot of, like, traditionally girly vibes going. She wants to be treated like, she doesn't want to be a princess. Right. But she does want to be, you know, like a, like a, what do they call that? Like a, the maid to the princess. Like she wants to be like in the court, just not on stage. She, you know, she wants to be treated as really special and pretty, not the center of attention.

Sometimes ramen finds that annoying. But most of the time They're fine with each other Even if they're not like the tightest of tights If you do Decides of a child Talk to her about it a lot As you're pregnant

Because that will be a difficult adjustment for her Okay If she's not aware that it's coming Yeah I worried about that Because Pinot soap like Like we'll just plop on top of us Or even on the head and pot And I'm like oh gosh

when I have a baby that could be. It could be an issue. And so I think you just have to be like, this is going to be like a kitten that you have to take very careful care of. Like that's just the way to frame it. And she'll get it. She'll just need,

she needs a lot of repetition to get there. Okay. But not aggressive repetition, just gentle, loving repetition. So, you know, it'll be okay. You just want to give her time and not be like, oh, look, you know what I mean? And dogs know what pregnancy is.

So it's not going to be confusing. Yeah. But I would definitely. be careful around that bit but no they're great they're happy they're healthy I mean she's really healthy but they're both happy and healthy and there's nothing lacking okay yeah yeah I love hearing that that's all good I'm like I can't wait to listen back to this episode like before it even comes out like just for myself because I'm going to go take all the notes I like to hear that I love to hear that appreciate it

much i would love to podcast again with you and do more like astrology stuff with my like my um birth chart and stuff but i would love to have you again to talk more about me if i'm being honest absolutely absolutely yeah we can totally work that out okay that would be amazing because i just looked at how much time i'm like we've been recording for an hour i could i could ask like a billion questions and just like do this all day so i just thank you for your time and i'm pleasure That was really just like I'm going to just go skip into Jason's office and tell them all about it. Yay. That's awesome. I'd love that. Yes. I'm going to go get my brush out right now and we're going to. I was going to say. Yeah. I really am. I'm Pina's obsessed. Just we'll go out onto the front porch and brush and Pina just loves. I see it. Just like pure peaceful. It's like when he's the most peaceful. Like the eyes squint and everything.

Yeah. Joy. Okay. Actually, my last question. Is there any way I can help Pino with the grief that he's feeling? I was looking at that. I just think a little bit more tender attention will do it. It's time.

Okay. More than anything. So other than that, no. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Well, thank you so much. It is my pleasure.

I can't wait for my listeners to hear this. and I can't talk to again. Oh, that sounds wonderful. And if your listeners are wanting to hear more, they can check out my podcast, ghost of a podcast. I don't have a ton of animal communication episodes, but I have a few, including Doug the Pug.

But you, oh, yes, okay, we love Doug the Pug. But a lot of my listeners are so interested in astrology and understanding and learning more. And so am I. So your podcast is the place to go for that. It is, it is like the, it is primarily astrology. I do some mediumship. I do some psychic stuff, but it is majoratively astrology and there's just like so much content there for learning astrology, but also I give a weekly horoscope where it's not like a sun sign horoscope.

It's more like, this is what's happening in the world. This is how it's going to make you feel. It's how it's going to make the people around you feel. So it's, I'm obsessed with it myself. Do you have Instagram for that too? I do. I haven't like with all these shootings recently. I haven't been posting quite as much just because it's been like, you know what I mean?

And like, it's heavy and, but I'm obsessed with my Instagram, if I'm being honest, because I make videos. I mean, I have a video of me as a menstrual cup. I have a video of me as like other ridiculous things, but mostly I am planets. So I like, I show up as planets and I describe the energy of the planets and what's happening astrologically. So it's kind of like cheeky and fun, but it's like a way to understand what's happening without it being too heavy and serious. yeah it's like easier to digest that way and oh my gosh wait okay so what's your Instagram because i need to follow her you do it's at jessica lignato it's at jessica underscore lanyato because somebody stole my name but um i know what are you going to do so and i'm and

i know this sounds like a dick thing to say but and i'm verified because there is somebody who has at jessica lanyato and oh no that's sometimes people follow that person but i'm verified so you'll be able to find me and if you see someone without the blue check then don't follow them okay oh that's actually really good to know that's not a big thing to say that's just like oh i can't wait i'm gonna follow and i i can't actually i'm going i'm trying to get 10,000 steps a day so i'm going to go on my walk and take it well you know what it's see it's humid out so i don't know if i want to take the dogs for a walk i know you know what she's okay with it he's not okay unless you can get and this is so like next level but like if you get a

baby Bjorn or you could get like a stroller for when uh ramen gets tired pop them in the stroller i mean i know it's next level and jason maybe call me and be like why did you tell her to get a stroller for the dog but i feel like i'm going to get an angry phone call so i apologize in advance to jason but i feel like that would take care of it then you continue to walk pino who likes to take long walks even in the heat and at a certain point when raman doesn't want to do it anymore fine just go on the thing yeah okay he would be super fun with it she might want to get into it sometimes but it's fine like it would all work it'd be cute it'd be stupid and cute they walk each other put the leashes in their mouth and like walk each other it's really so cute I really love that braid

of dog oh they're amazing they're so sweet and loving and nice yeah and so loyal I just love them I'm obsessed they're just being as cute as hell right now too even though usually their clock goes off at 5.30 and they want dinner, but they have been so chill here. It's because I've been talking to them. So they know that like they're getting attention. Yeah. So you're not talking to someone. I'm talking to, I've been talking to them as much in this hour as I've been talking to you. Yeah. So they're very chill, I would imagine. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Tino's coming back. You want to say bye? Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Oh, my God.

He is a gorgeous dog, like stunning. Oh, my God. Thank you. So cute. So sweet. It's so great to meet you all. So great to meet you, too. They say thank you, and I say thank you.

And I can't wait to talk to you again because I want to dive all into the astrology and everything else that you do. So I would love to do a whole other hour on that. Thank you. Thank you. I'm Caitlin Bisto. I'll see you next Tuesday. Thanks for listening. to this week's episode of Off the Vine.

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