Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Rayna Greenberg | Girls Gotta Go Solo: Hot Takes, Solo Comedy Tour & Girly Tangents!

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

#910. You may know her from the Girls Gotta Eat duo, but this time Rayna Greenberg is flying solo!Kaitlyn and Rayna catch up on what actually makes someone sexy, dating women, and their very honest thoughts on marriage. Rayna also spills on stepping out on her own with her brand-new solo tour, Honestly, It’s You, and what it’s really like breaking away from the duo dynamic.Things quickly spiral into conspiracy theories, bold hot takes, a surprisingly deep debate about choosing one song to listen to forever, and plenty of chaotic, unfiltered tangents you won’t want to miss.If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE!Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals!Covergirl: Go the distance with COVERGIRL’s new Eye Enhancer Wrap Tubing Mascara for a lash extension effect. Shop at your nearest retailer now. Only from Easy, Breezy, Beautiful COVERGIRL.comApartments.com: The Place to find a place!Boll & Branch: Get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at bollandbranch.com/vine15, code vine15 to unlock 15% off. Exclusions apply.Nutrafol: For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to nutrafol.com promo code VINE. Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance!Tempo: For a limited time, Tempo is offering OTV listeners 60% OFF your first box! Go to TempoMeals.com/VINE. Rules and restrictions may apply.EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: (16:15) — Rayna gets real about going solo, launching Honestly, It’s You, and what breaking away from the duo has actually been like.(29:30) — Rayna opens up about her dating life, “dabbling” with women, and doing what truly makes her happy.(40:14) — HOT TAKE ALERT: The influencer Rayna says she would not survive a day with.(53:00) — The “one song for the rest of your life” debate.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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everybody, welcome to Off the Vine podcast. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. And today we have the hilarious, open, honest, raw, vulnerable, Raina Greenberg on. She's always just an absolute joy to talk to because I feel like we are the same person. Okay, bye. I was just saying before we started recording about this guy, I can't tell if I have like a crush on him or if he just like, I laugh. You know when you just laugh so hard at someone and you're like, am I attracted to you or do I just think you're really funny? I'm so attracted to somebody that's funny. And like, I mean, I think that that's, I mean, male comedians just clean up. I mean, you don't even have to look good, dress good, nothing.

I don't know why this one confuses me. You're right. Being funny is so sexy. So actually, like, it's so, so I, the guy, one of the guy, I have two openers for my tour, but this one guy, I saw him on Instagram and I was, he is really attractive, but I was like, that's the funniest person I've ever seen in my life. Really? And then I was like, I must have him.

I, like, before I even met him in person, I booked him for the tour. Who is he? His name is Matt Ross. Okay. He is, like, so tall, not. But he's, like, really funny. Like, and he's perfect for my audience because he talks about, like, sex and dating and all that stuff.

You don't talk about sex. I just thought it would be like perfect in tandem. You know, because I don't talk about any of that. No, no, no. Yeah, you just made, yeah. But yes, I was watching him tell jokes and I was like, am I attracted to these jokes? Yeah, I feel that. I actually feel that.

So this guy's name, have you heard of Jeffrey Keller? No. He eats gummies and then cooks and just like lets the camera roll. Okay. Okay. He'll be like, can I see him? Yeah. And he always goes, hello, and then he has a hilarious laugh.

Wait, let me see. Oh, he is cute. I know this guy. You do? Yeah. What do you mean you know him? Like, I know, like, I've seen his stuff. Like, I just, I scroll and I've seen his stuff.

So he gets hiding and he'll drink a THC drink. And he just goes on these rants. And it's every time. So anyways, it's what I really want to do is eat a gummy with him and podcast. Or does he cook or he just eats stuff or he just talks? All of it. Okay. He does all of that at the same time.

You'd be really fun on that show, too. Like, you guys cook something together and take gummies. get so dumb when I eat a gummy. Same. I'm not saying I should do it. I'm saying somebody else should do it. I'm like, I wonder what would come out of my mouth if it would be funny or if people would be like, this was a really bad idea, Caitlin.

Like I don't make sense. I forget mid-sentence what I'm saying. Because I usually, if I'm going to take a gummy, I usually just do it to fall asleep. But if I get past the point of falling asleep and then I get really high, I become a different human. Anything with like THD and it is not like a social drug for me. I need to be like alone with no one. And like nothing I say makes sense.

I'm in my head about it. I'm not like, this is silly. I want to joke with somebody about this. That's why I worry because I'm like, it's high risk, high reward. Oh my God, that is so. You know the trend? So come on Superman say your stupid line. That's me.

I say high risk high reward all the time. That's my thing. Wait, I want to rewind to something you said. What? Okay. Like in terms of like sexiest qualities, do you think funny is up there for you? Like, do you want to fuck a funny person, a smart person, a successful person? Funny over smart.

But if you're smart. and funny, that's a bonus. But you have to be... You have to be smart to be funny, I think. I actually think you have to be really smart to be funny. And a certain level of funny. I like dry sarcastic humor a lot. I think that's very attractive.

But like, I think the only thing I'm not attracted to is like a male influencer. I mean, I don't want to like shit on how people make money and creative because like I'm an influencer. So like who am I. But like, I don't want a man necessarily who like, that's the goal. I am fully aware of how hypocrites. I am. Same. In so many situations in life, this being one of them. Like, I, I just think influencing is for the girlies. Yeah. It's okay to say I'm not attracted to something. I think that we shame people for like not being attracted to. You're allowed to be like, if somebody else wants

to date that, great. Good for them. I don't want it. Yeah. And I don't, I like somebody that's a little more private, I guess. And there's no benefit to me to dating somebody that's not, I guess. Like, I've dated people that have their own podcast and like I talked about it publicly. And then I had to like talk about the breakup publicly. And it was, it's nice to just end something and not have to talk about it. Did you see Amy Schumer's breakup post? Blah, blah, blah, blah. We ended after seven years.

Blah, blah, blah. I was like, that is funny because there is nothing worse. And I've done it twice. The public breakup announcement of like, we respect each other. No, I wanted to say in my, in the breakup post, like, for both of them, I just wanted to be so real. And I didn't even have PR, but my like, management was like, you can't say that. And I was like, why not?

How refreshing would it be if you were just like, he started to give me the ick. Yeah. I don't know. I was with him for six years. Blah, blah, blah. I don't know how long you were together. But like, it's enough.

I had enough. Yeah, I wanted to just be real. It hasn't been working for two years, guys. It's time to call it quits. I think more people should say that. I think that like people are so shocked when someone breaks up. And I think the reality of so many people's relationships is like it was sort of death by a thousand cuts.

And it was ending for a super long time. No one like did something terrible. Yes. Like I think you try for a long time to hang on to something. Yeah. Then you got the cord. Blah, blah, blah. This is, I have this thought, too, about just, like, relationships in general. I don't have a problem with divorce.

Or like, like, divorced guys, like dating a divorce guy. Well, that for sure. I think that's actually kind of, like, have been through it. And they probably had to work on themselves from it. People start hating each other after. Uh-huh. I don't know a certain amount of time. And I'm like, I don't like the belief of, oh, you should just stick it out and be

miserable because that's what marriage is. Okay. I don't know. What do you feel about marriage? So I don't want, I don't really want kids. So I have, like, different views. on like sticking it out, you know, if you want to have children and you want a partner to do that with, and like my brother and his wife are just like the best team. Yeah. And like I can't imagine raising

a child on my own. My mom was a single mom. I mean, it's hard. Yeah. So I guess my feelings are different if I'd want children. But like I was engaged at one point. I was happy to get married. I would get married. I think that like it's a tough commitment. And if it ends like that's fine too. I think it's great. You found somebody you wanted to spend a long time with. Some things just run their course. Yeah. And I wonder in 30, 40 years if we will even can see very many, like, 50-year-long relationships anymore because I don't know. I think, I think, like, the attitudes about marriage have changed. I think people are like, I'm not having sex. They don't feel supported by my partner. I'm alone in this relationship, carrying the load

of two people anyways. Like, why not just be alone? And I think it's become the norm to walk away from relationships like that. And I think that's great. I do too. I think that's what I was trying to say is I think that's okay to get excited about I want to get married. And then who knows, I might be like, but I also want to get a divorce. I just think it's okay to. like choose what is making you happy. Yeah. So many people just are like, oh, what's the secret? Oh, you know, I don't know what the secret is.

I think life is really long and we should be with people that make us happy. And I am single currently and I have a life full of all these wonderful things. And if I ended up alone for the rest of my life, I still could like accept that I had like great friends and a great career that really added positive to the world. I have fun. I travel. Like I think you build out the rest of your life to be great so that you can choose somebody that adds to that, but you don't need it. Do you think having a boyfriend is lame? Bogues says it's lame.

I know. I think the idea of that article was just like making it your whole personality is lame. And selling everybody this story that this is the dream is lame. And to your point, a lot of people are in, a lot of people have relationships and they're shitty and terrible and they're just sticking around. I would love somebody to like enhance my life and have sex with me every single day and like go on fun adventures with. Are you a Scorpio?

I'm a gem. I'm a Scorpio Rising. Okay. This makes sense. A Gemini. Oh, me too. Oh, you are? Yeah.

Okay. Are you into astrology? Like, do you know about? Okay. Only, like, I'm a big, like, I fake it. I say I'm into it, but like you could ask me what a tourist means and I have no idea. Same. Yeah.

I can tell you what a Gemini is. I can tell you, I can tell you Scorpio because, well, Scorpio women are like, and men, I think, very, like, sex. They like sex. Okay. Very sexy, very, like, comfortable in sex. I am. Yeah. And so that makes sense.

That's why I ask if you're Scorpio. Are you, like, really comfortable with sex? sex? I go in phases. I go through phases. I think that's important to say. I think it's important to say like I'm not one way all the time. And if I'm not interested in sex for a little while, it's not a permanent stasis. I think people have this image of me being such a sexual person because I was pigeonholed on the bachelorette to be the sexual bachelorette who like loves to f***. And I was like, well, that's funny. Like, yeah, I was in that time in my life. And I'm very like comfortable and confident in talking about sex or even just saying like, yeah, go through phases. But it's,

It's so funny because there are times where I'm like, I think I could go forever with not having sex. And then there are times where I'm like, just kidding. Is it, but do you need intimacy in your life? You want somebody to hold your hand and sit next to you on the couch with their arm around you. You don't care about any of that. Me. I'm like definitely not a, I enjoy it. Yeah.

But I don't, I'm just not a physical touch kind of gal. Oh, you're not. Okay. Have you ever been like touchy feeling? No. Even with a partner? I mean, I'll. I work on. I actively have to work on being touchy because I'm so not like, like I'm not a hugger.

That was going to be the next question. Do you hug people? I do hug people, but I'm not a huger. Like when I hugged you, this now, I didn't like that. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, so my, the girl that I do the podcast with Ashley, she's not really a huger. Yeah. I am, I'm sitting on everyone's laps at all time. I'm like laying on the couch all over my girlfriends. You're like Cynthia and Ariana Grande. Yes. I want Ashley to be like that with me. But she shows her love otherwise. That reminds me of Tanya and Becca Tilly on the scrubbing in pod. Are they like that?

Becca is me and Tanya is you. And Becca is Ashley. Yeah. It's such a thing. I do like, it's not that I'm not attracted to the person that I'm with at the time. Like, it's not, I just have to actively be like, hey, you should probably touch them more. But you probably show your love in other ways. Oh, I, acts of service.

Uh-huh. All about it. You're so masculine. I am. See, and this is. I've talked about this before where I go, I think I'm just in such a masculine era, and I really would like to get out of that. I would really like 2026, except that someone asked me, what's your word for 2026?

I was like, Kanti. I just want to be Kunti in 2026. Okay. I'm just like, but then I go, do I? I'm so confusing. You go on waves. You on phases. I do.

So maybe I'll start off the year thinking like, yeah, and then I'll really maybe just soften into more of a feminine era because I would really like to. I'm just, yeah, I think I'm, man. Go the distance, would you with cover girls new eye and Enhanceer wrap tubing mascara for a lash extension effect. I tried out Cover Girls. I enhancer wrap the tubing mascara that I'm talking about. And I have to tell you,

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Do you go to therapy? Yes, a lot. And have you talked about this with your therapist? Well, that's, yes, because we've talked about how I'm so much in my masculine era that I need to soften. I don't know, do you need to saw? I don't know, you look. Like really feminine. I find you really, I don't know, I find you girly. Really? Yeah. I mean, you and I aren't like best friends yet. Like you will be, but like, yeah. I mean, I don't know,

you seem feminine enough. Like, it's fine to have a balance. Look how, look how far you, look, look at your career and what you've done. Like, look how many people that have had, have been on The Bachelor and then you never hear from them again. Like, look what you've built. Thank you for saying that. Like, you're doing great. I think it's a coping mechanism and that's why it's a problem. Got it. I think it's good to be both and I think I am both and I think sometimes I use being masculine as a coping mechanism to protect myself. I think that's where I need to work on it. But I can still be both. Yes. You could like code switch between. And do you feel like when you were like with a partner that like allows you to like de-escalate a little bit, you can be a little more feminine? Yes. Okay. Definitely.

And that's what I'm experiencing at this chapter in my life is I'm actually wanting to be more soft. I think that like we can appear as totally different people in every single relationship. Yeah. So, like, I think that, like, everybody that's been my partner experiences me very differently. Totally. And there's probably, like, a couple things that are like, you know, I don't know what those things are. I have no, I have no idea. I think I'm great. But I think there's probably a couple things about me.

You have to, like, deal with to be with me. But, like, I think everybody I've been in a serious relationship with experiences me differently because we react differently to everybody. So true. I may, and this may be because I've been in therapy for so long, but I, in past relationships, react very emotionally and very quickly. and now I am like the best pauseer. I don't know.

I pause really well now and think about it. And I stay very grounded and I don't escalate. And that's wild for me. Do you think that's because you don't feel like you're being attacked by somebody? You have like a minute to think. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that like when we have a partner that's just like attacking us all the time or they're never like on your team,

I think that like you jumped into action to defend yourself because they're not going to. but if you feel like this person might actually hear me out, I think you have like a minute to pause. That's a really good point. Yeah. Wow. I'm excited for you. There was somebody that makes you feel like that. Maybe. Maybe. I'm like, now I move on because I'm uncomfortable because I refuse to talk about my dating life. Okay. Let's talk about you. Okay. And the fact that you're doing a solo tour. I'm so excited. I'm excited for you. So it's called honestly, it's you. Tell me why you and how you came up with this name. The way the whole tour came about was I was really just, whole. I was obviously in love with one of my best friends. And we really didn't have anything in common. There was no reason to think we were going to end up together. But he just is the best person. He's deserving of that.

He's wonderful and smart and kind. You're still in love with him? No. Okay. But it wasn't going to work out. And I had to like move on. And I promised myself at the beginning of last year that I would like do everything in terms of dating. I did matchmakers and dating coaches. I did the apps.

I tried dating women. I've like done all the things. And I just started writing about it. And I was like, I think this is funny. I think this is relatable. I think this journey of like, can you find somebody? How do I feel about marriage? How do I people about dating?

What did each of these experiences teach me? Like, I think it really impacted me deeply. And it just ended up being so funny. And I really wanted to like put this out into the world. And a lot of these experiences, I do not feel like I was at fault. So I felt like calling it honestly to you. I love it. It was very me.

Like my friends always joke. I just, I think I'm like so great. And I can't imagine what my problem is contributing to any of these relationships. I'm obsessed with that. I am a great friend. Being friends with me, I'm great. I will listen. I will digest. I will hear you out. I think I'm pretty good at conflict management. But in a lot of these situations, it was just poor male behavior. And so I just thought it would be very funny to call it honestly to you. Do you have men come to your show? Yeah. So Ashley and I had a mostly, and we still do

have a mostly female audience. We're probably a very similar audience to you, like millennial females, but some older, some younger. And as the years progressed, people started bringing their partners, their moms, their daughters. Probably not like single guys on like a night out or like coming to my, they should. Because it's just a roomful of hot single wear. I always think that, yeah. But also I think she and I have evolved the content. So if you come to any of our live shows, it's not like inside jokes from the podcast.

It's stuff that should be really funny. Like I get messages from men after shows all the time being like, you really were funny. And I'm like, do you think you're giving me a compliment? It's rude. But I guess I'll take it. You're like, you obviously don't know who I am. I think I'm awesome and hilarious. and I know, thank you for your honesty.

And I think even though I'm telling it from a woman's perspective, like anybody can relate to these like crazy dating stories. I talk about a lot of like crazy wild sex and I'm just, I'm really excited to like get on stage and do it. Oh my gosh. I feel like it's such a power move to go out there and do this by yourself. Are you nervous? For Girls Got to Eat, we've done seven years of touring.

We've done hundreds of live shows. And I did think for a long time, like, can I do this without? Our shows are a huge production. There's cryogenes. There's drum lines and dancers. There's strippers. There's t-shirt guns. You guys go for it.

I'm sitting with my best friend on stage. And I thought like when you strip all that away, if it's just me and a microphone, like, is it good? Am I good enough? And I went on the road with Ashley. She did her own solo tour and I opened a couple of her shows. I opened for my friend, Brittany Schmidt as well, who's going to open for me on my tour. And I really just enjoyed it. And I've been getting up at the stand a lot here and New York comedy.

And I love it. And it's fun. And it makes me less nervous. and our audience is the best audience. And I know like performing for strangers will be hard. But our audience like to walk out in front of them, there's just like so much love and support. And I guess there's like a little bit of nerves like anybody.

But like I feel like I'm like walking into a room full of the most supportive people. That's what I love. It must be so terrifying to be like a comedian starting out with no fan base. Like to you guys have this beautiful built in community that you've built and you know that they're going to laugh and support you. And you know that they know your sense of humor. and it's going to land. And it's so, that's so exciting because I feel the same way if I ever do live tours.

Like I get nervous because I'm excited and I can't wait to like make eye contact with people in the front row and be like, I just said that and, you know, like I'm safe here. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Exactly. I mean, comedy is the bravest thing in the world to me. Like to do that, so many people do it for 10 years, 15 years before they reach a level of success. You're like war, men go to war?

No, trying to stand up. stand-up and it's just all these people being like dance for me clown. Yeah. And it's really scary. And yes, I'm really blessed and I'm going to walk into an audience full of people. I'm going to write a great show. But like still, like that are there to like lean in and enjoy the experience. And I think it's like so brave to start out not like that.

And people for many years always said like, why don't you do comedy? You're so funny. And I'm like, you don't understand. Like I've walked on stage at the Chicago Theater of front of 4,000 people that are just there for me and Ashley. And like I can't imagine going backwards into a room full of a hundred. people that don't know who I am, that don't give a shit about who I am. It's so scary to me. You're kind of pulling like a Harry Stiles. Like you're, is the band breaking up?

I know. We've been in business for almost a decade. I don't think we're ever going to break up. Yeah. She, um, had her second solo tour this year. She sold out 43 shows. She crushed it. I'm filmed a comedy special. So, um, no, we'll do, we'll do our joint shows. And then this year worked out really well because we're not going to have a girl's got to eat or she's Harry Styles. She's Harry Styles. She does that make me. Is she the Beyonce? We're both the Beyonce. You're a Michelle.

No, I do think you're both Beyonce's though. I like that you're doing this. I like that you're probably stepping outside of your comfort zone, like a little, like pushing yourself to do something different. I think that always results in like growth in anyone. And you're going to get such beautiful feedback. I'm excited. It's 20 locations. Wow.

Where can people find the locations on your Instagram? Rainiergreenberg.com. Yeah. And that was way too fast. What? Rainogreenberg. dot com and also my Instagram has all of them so that's reina dot greenberg there is another reina greenberg she's a publicist so you'll you'll realize pretty quickly she's not me yeah um wait so have you started

this did you have a show last night you said so last night we so we do a girl's going to get holiday show to end the year every year and it's like they're our biggest show the year we always do one in new york so that was last night um the tour starts january 29th okay so i'm starting in tampa and you oh fun i'm manifesting david batista comes to the show oh I love him. I'm big Davidista fan. Why am I? I'm acting like I know who that is.

Okay. So he was very famous for being a wrestler, but he became an actor after that. So he was in Glass Onion. He's like, he looks like the rock. Okay. And he's this huge masculine man, but he's like such a feminist and he rescues dogs. And he just has like all these dogs that he rescued at his house. And he's like this giant tattooed bald guy.

He just, he looks like mean. But he always posts about feminism and dog rescues. and I just love him. I watched a video today and I sobbed. It was a center where the dog rescues, like, chooses the human. So it's a room full of, like, it looked like maybe 50 people sitting at chairs. And the dog comes out one at a time and chooses the, and it is, like, the person breaks down every time. And the dog just walks up and it's like they know who they're going to.

And they just walk up and like, lick their face and like choose them. And I'm like, I want to go to that. Except then if a golden retriever walked out and didn't pick me, I'd be pissed. You like big dogs, right? I like all dogs. I've seen photos of you. Were you like Instagram starring this? You were with your two giant dogs on a plane?

I was like, is she alone? She's two feet tall. She's so little. You're not two feet tall. But you're so little and you're with these giant dogs alone on a plane. I was like, how is she doing this? Were you on your way back from Dancing with the Stars? Yeah, I know exactly the post you're talking about.

Yes, I was on my way back from Dancing with the Stars. and my ex had one and I had one. And then they came together. The man next to me went to the bathroom. We weren't sitting together for some reason. I don't know why. And the guy that was sitting next to me went to the bathroom. And so then Pino came over to Raman and wanted to be with me because I was the favorite.

And of course. And so and then I remember you had the photo. And it's just, but I usually travel. I have Raman. He's trained because before COVID, I wanted to take him to children's hospital. hospitals, which I should still do now, but I think he'd need to be retrained a bit. He's kind of crazy. But yeah, I can travel with ramen. Okay, Pino, not as well. Well, no, he's fine. It's just you can't travel with two dogs by yourself. Is that illegal? I think so. I don't think, yeah, I think technically

you can only have one dog to your name as a service animal. Yeah, I've never seen it before. Yeah. So seeing you, unless you're small dogs. It was jarring. I was like, I can't believe she's doing this. This is crazy. I could be like, I could deal with a wiener dog maybe by my, I'll mini weiner dog by myself. It is funny just even just being by myself walking my two dogs in my neighborhood. Like I always wonder what my neighbors think of me because I live in a decent size house by myself with two dogs and like throw weird parties. Not like how masculine of you. Are you a boy? Just live alone in your big house. It's giving boy energy. Okay, you are giving masculine energy. I know. It's just it's who I am.

I went through a very tomboy phase in my 20s. I feel like I would just wear like band teas and converse and listen to Nirvana in my apartment by myself. And I just wanted to be Kurt Cobain. Like, are you mad at your dad? No, my dad's my hero. Me too. I always, people always wonder that because I feel like a lot of times funny girls have dad things. Uh-huh.

And I'm like, no, my dad is my favorite person on planet Earth. Do you have like your mom? Do your mom, do your mom, fuck you out? My mom f*** me up. Well, my mom f*** me up, but she watches every podcast and she's probably like, oh, here she comes again. She's my best friend, though. That's so nice.

Wow. Yeah. Good for you. I'm very lucky. Not a lot of trauma at home. No. Well, I mean, there's trauma. Don't worry.

Sure. I grew up at a ballet studio. There's trauma. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm so sorry.

I can't believe you're out in the world. I know. I'm a survivor. Wow. The body dysmorphia is real, though. I mean, everybody, I'm 40. Yeah. I'm 40. Okay. I thought the body positivity movement, it's a beautiful thing. It's really important,

but women our age were brought up every single day to hate our bodies. And one day, somebody was like, love your bodies. And you're like, wait. But I hate myself. But I gave myself an eating disorder when I was 13. And I've been dealing with that since I was 13. I started to take, I developed really young. I had like huge boobs and hips. And I mean, I had like boobs when I was like 12. And it made me so uncomfortable. I got so much attention for men that I wasn't ready for. And I thought if I just lose weight, they'll go away. I won't look like this. I started taking like Dexatrim when I was like 13. And my mom was like, you're clearly on speed. Like she would like chase me around and steal it back out of my room. But like all the girls around me were like this and I wasn't a ballet dancer. I mean,

it's just the generation we grew up with everybody all the time was like hate your body. Promise you better Hit your body. Yeah. See, I was like the, I was the other way where I wanted to have the boobs and get the attention. And I was like so skinny that I had to go see the doctor and he like put me on like milkshakes. What are those things? Is it gain weight? Yeah.

I remember those like. Regina George was drinking them to go up a weight class. Yeah. Calteen bars. But you know the, it was like not slim fast because that's the opposite of slum pack. Yeah. It was like I had to go on these. milkshakes from the grocery stores. Like wrestlers drank them to go up a weight class.

That was me. And I, because I was like, but my ballet teacher was like, stay, whatever you're doing, stay there because I was so skinny. Why don't we let young girls be ballet dancers? I mean, it's a beautiful art. I know. I just, it's, it's pretty messed up. Like, I remember, because my mom was one of the original members of the Alberta Ballet Company. She was a professional ballerina. Wow. And like, women would eat cotton balls to feel full and not gain weight. What? Yeah, that was like a thing in the ballet world. Oh, my God. She was f*** up from that. Of course.

And then, you know, generational trauma is real. I just, I think that for so many, I mean, even today, like, women's value is so attached to how we look. And the skinny trend is back with Ozempic. Yeah. So it's a whole mind for the people who have been working on their bodies for the last 10 years of, like, love your curves. And then all of a sudden, this trend is back in.

And I'm like, no. I know. It really came steering back. I live in L.A., so everybody is on as an impact. Oh, man. It's actually, like, I'm a few, if you need the OZempic for your, like, like, you know, diabetes. That's what it is for, right? Yes, traditionally it's for diabetes. But I mean,

it hasn't- I'm so knowledgeable about this. I think you're talking about it. It's been around for a long time for diabetes, but for weight loss, it hasn't been around for a long time. And there's all this research coming up, but it hasn't been studied long enough. But like, there was an article in New York Magazine recently called like Life in Bage, I think, as was the title. And it was talking about how it sort of like dulled all of your pleasure centers, good and bad. So like, it could help you stop drinking. It could help you mitigate an eating disorder. And I'm not a scientist. don't take my word for it.

There's some people that say it won't help, whatever. But it sort of like reduces that desire to binge on anything. Food, alcohol, drugs. So I guess if it helps people do that, it's great. If it helps you just get through the, whatever, I think people should do whatever makes them happy. So I don't judge it at all. I'm the same.

I want to talk about you dating women because talk about doing what makes you happy. I feel like you're like, let's dabble. Have you always wanted to dabble? Or did it just, were you like, let's try something new or what was it? So when I really. And was it wonderful? Tell me everything. I wish that I, and I talk about this on stage, but I wish I wanted to date women. I've slept with women and I enjoy that.

I haven't been in a relationship with a woman. And so women are different to date than men. It's a whole different set of rules and structure and I haven't been in a relationship with a woman. I discovered I was attracted to women pretty early on. I remember being like 14 and seeing like lesbian porn. Like, you know, your guy friends had it up on their computers at our school. And I remember thinking. like I really want to date men. I'm attracted to men, but like, why am I like turned on by

this thing? And I didn't, I wouldn't say, I struggled with it, but it was like a really deep, dark secret of mine. Like that was the porn that I was attracted to. I never watched straight, like, I never watched porn with a penis until like my 30s. Oh, I still haven't. No, not for you. Not for me. Have you, that's, what is that super bad line? He's like, have you ever seen a dick in vagina? Like, not for me. That is me. It's not for me. I think it, first of all, it looks kind of violent. It does look violent. It's usually shot from a male perspective. So that like pounding the pussy, like that doesn't look like what I enjoy. No. And I think like women, I just, women's bodies are so beautiful. And it's just, I always just like grew up being like, what does this mean?

Yeah. I did want to like hook up with girls, but I still really wanted to date men. And that's not because of like any cultural stigmas. I grew up in a very like open home, be what you want, do what you want to be with a woman, man. Be with this table. Who cares? My family did not care. And that's really like a nice supportive way to grow up. But I always really wanted to be with men, but I didn't understand what that meant. And I slept with girls in college in like my early 20s and really never since. And then one day I was in L.A.

And I saw this girl at Soho House. She was sitting across the room. And I had this feeling like I have to meet this girl. And it was like not a feeling of I want to be friends with this girl. I was like, that's, that girl's so beautiful. I'm so attracted to her. And I like sat across from her and we just started like talking. And it didn't feel like,

one of my girlfriends, you know? Yeah. And I went out with her and did you catch that, like, was she into you? So it's funny because she's, um, she is with a man now. She's in a relationship with a man. And she and I were kind of talking and she was like, you know, I did try to like date girls for all. And I was like, it was a date. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about it like a little bit and we're just, we're friends now. I just, I don't rule anything out. I think I've, I've seen plenty of people in my life date men and women and kind of go back and forth depending on who they're attracted to. And I don't rule it out, but I haven't met a woman. I wanted to be in a relationship with. I'm the exact same way as you. All right, I'm going to go back

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Y-I-N-Z. That's the Pittsburgh E's of y'all. It's very like Pittsburgh dialect. Yins? I kind of like it. Yins. It's fun. I don't mind it.

What are Yins doing tonight? It's just interesting that I'd never heard that before. Also, what is the thing Philly people call? John. John. What's that? J-A-W-N. Everything's John.

Everything? Yeah, everything, everyone, everything's John. Like, this table's John? Yeah, this table's John. I don't get it. I don't get it. And how do you use it in a sentence? It's like 67.

It's like 6-7. You know you're not supposed to understand it. I still don't understand 6-7. It's not for us. And that's okay. I do have a tough time with being a millennial because I want to like own it. then I don't want to own it too much where I make Gen Z cringe.

But then I'm like, why do I care about what they think, but I do. Okay, I am excited to talk about this. I have very strong feelings about this. Okay, good. I don't want to be Gen Z.

I think that they're great. And like, when they're like, you dress like a millennial, it's like, because I'm not 25. I don't know, I'm 40. I don't dress like you because I'm not you. And it would be cringe if I tried to be you. Oh, damn.

I try. And it's like, they make fun. To get made fun of for being like old is so funny because it's like, it's hilarious to me to make fun of a thing that you are going to be one day. Right. God willing.

I mean, you should be so lucky to be this age someday and be healthy. And like, I don't want to be your age and say the stuff that you say. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's, listen, you dress great, your skin's great, you look great for your age, you're cool and hip and fun. Thanks. Way more than normally your age. Are you attracted to me?

A little. Do you want to hook up after this? I don't have anything to do until eight. I sadly have another podcast over this. otherwise I would be into it. Just kidding. All right. Well, we'll manifest it for 2026.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, next year. That's coming up. I can't believe. No, time freaks me out. I'm not doing. But I understand how you feel because you have, I mean, it's open season on you and me. If you're an influencer,

you put yourself on the internet is open season on you to come out on how you dress, how you look, your skin, your hair. Oh. And like, even like our audience, we're really lucky. My audience is so kind and wonderful. But I'll see 100 nice comments

and one really shitty one. And I'm like, Damn, that hurt my feelings. Like, I'm a person. It still hurts. You still came to my house and insulted me. Yeah. I actually don't think it hurts my feelings anymore.

I, again, I am such a confusing human because my feelings change every week. But right now, I could read the meanest comment and I would think it's funny. That's because you like yourself right now. I do. Do you or have you ever read your Reddit threads? No. No, no. Somebody has sent me a screenshot of a couple things and I just go like, oh my God.

I think there are people who I know. Probably your biggest haters are people who you know. I think my biggest hater who starts like the, what is it, snark pages or something? I wouldn't go on Reddit if you couldn't give me a million dollars to read the shit about myself. I'd do it for a mill. Okay, I would do this.

Honestly, I would do it for like $10,000. But I would do most things for $10,000. I would just do it for like content on the podcast, actually. But it is ruthless over there. I see the font and it's triggering to me. Like I just, that's not for my. I don't need to know what's on there. You can hate me as much.

You can make it your whole personality. That is none of my business. That's, it is this one girl's whole personality to hate me. And I, like to me, it is. It's always nice to meet a fan. Actually sweet. All the time you spend on me. I just want to sing Taylor Swift when I see it because I'm like,

I love her so much. Oh, I love her so much. I just saw on my Facebook page, somebody is disappointed in her and it was like a whole thing. I'm like, someone was like, is anybody else disappointed in Taylor Swift right now? And I was like, I don't want to read this because what did she do? because why it's something she said in the documentary or something. Oh, maybe. I don't know. Have you watched it?

Not yet. I can't wait. I'm so excited. I'm just good at a business. I've been since it came out. But I really, I need to watch it like immediately. I love her.

I was at the show in London that Travis Kelsey came out on stage. It was, I mean, it was one of like the best nights in my life. Like just to be, I went at Wimbly Stadium in London. It's 90,000 people to like be in a stadium with that many people. And it's just like such positive energy.

And there's always women with her daughters. Yeah. I don't know. I love what she stands for and represent. and she's going to have missteps like everybody, but she's pretty solid individual, all things considered, yeah. It's, I, yeah, I just think she is.

And she seems like so grounded. Like nothing gets to her head. She just, she's amazing. I love her. She is. She's like the Beatles of our generation. Yeah. She really is.

I want to ask you some hot take questions. Okay, great. Okay. I just, I don't, sometimes I try and come up with games, and it just doesn't come to me. So I like, either like, like a rapid fire or a hot take or a like, oh, I love the game.

I'm going to play this with you too. How do you proceed? I'll tell you a scenario and you tell me how you proceed. I hope I do well. But there's just no rules, so you will do well. Great. Okay. Hot take number one.

Which influencer would you not survive a day with and why? I think it's just, I mean, just in general, anybody that's making me take a thousand photos and videos of them and they're not present and they're not enjoying. I mean, there's nothing. Listen, I think go go get your content. I've been on trips with many, many influencers. that can quietly, casually get their photos.

But like people that just never pull into a parking space and just enjoy themselves. Like, they've got cameras in your face. One time I had to say something like, get your fucking phone out of my face while I eat. Seriously. Anybody like that. So that I would not spend.

Yeah, no one specifically. Just anybody who's like ultra obsessed with their phone. Do you have somebody you're like, I cannot spend a day with? Because I mean, for me, it's like a lot of people. I didn't expect you to turn the question on me. I'm an interviewer. I'm a human.

I should have known. I should have prepared for this one. Yeah, same thing probably as you, but yeah, I could think of a few specifics. Yeah, I can think of a few specifics.

I mean, I have a lot of hate in my heart, okay? I know I seem really nice, but I talk, I'm never not talking shit in my head. I can't remember, was it Paige and Hannah that was talking?

Somebody was recently talking about how like gossip is, like they love, they will never stop gossiping and it like fills their heart with joy. It sounds like them and... I do think it was. I love them and I,

yes, same, honestly. And I do. Don't, listen, as long as you're not sharing information about me, then I love gossip. Okay, what about if you, is there someone you would love to spend 24 hours with you? No. I stream the whole thing of the influencers. I mean, I've been single for quite a while. I travel with my girlfriends a lot.

I just spent like three days in a row at Soho Farmhouse with my friend Megan. And I was like, are we going to be okay for three days in the country together? But like, that sounds like a dream. It was amazing. We horseback road and we took walks. We got massages. We just drank by the fireplace. And like, I have like a pretty solid set of friends.

So like, I think that's supposed to be my life. I think I'm supposed to be a horse girl. Oh, I'm a horse girl. I know nothing about riding horses and yet I'm always on a horse. Me too. I'm not good at it. I did this like equine therapy where you like walk in and the horse like reads you. And I was like, this horse is going to be obsessed with me.

And it wasn't. And I was like, and then they're like, the therapist was like, what is that sane? What does that mean to you? What does it mean? That horse has bad taste. That I need attention. Yeah. why we have podcasts. But I'm like, I want attention from animals more than humans. Do you?

Yes. Oh, okay. I think. Yeah. That makes sense. I want, that's why I don't know if I could do the rescue thing where I go into the room. I'd just be like, so mad if a dog didn't come up to me. But I see what you're saying because like you get some, you get like value from like an animal thinking you're kind, you're going to take care of it. I'm like, this animal's going to read my soul and my spirit and know that I am a good human and it's going to be obsessed with me and it like walked away. And I was like, I know, I know what you're saying because it like says something about you. I'm like, what is my energy off today? Am I not who I think I am?

Do you ride horses? Or you just stand next to them? Okay. I rode a horse probably like ten times. Oh, yeah, me too. I love it. I was in Jackson Hole last year with a bunch of friends and no one would come horseback riding with me.

So I was like, I'll just, people have a healthy fear of horses. I do not. Well, my fear is that I'm hurting them or they don't want to ride me. Or what? That they don't want me to ride them. They're definitely not riding me. I have a fear that that's like animal cruelty because I and I talk to the every time I go to ride a horse I talk to the people about that because I'm like what I say they love this apparently they love it they love maybe it just makes how what a joy to have you on a horse you're the same weight as the saddle and I just literally like hug them the whole time and like pet them and tell them how good they are yeah who wouldn't like that I love when somebody's just on my body yeah you would like that I could be a horse you just like someone riding you at all times i just i like somebody on me at all times funny i like

dated this guy who's like the most avoidant person in the world which makes which made me the most anxious person in the world yeah um and i was just like suction cuffed to his body at all times and he'd be like can you stop that's my girlfriends she she was born in um mexico and her mom is from france and she is like the most affectionate person in the whole world and i she's the only person that I think it's cute when she does it. It's Clio. Everyone on this podcast knows who Cleo is. Do you know Clue?

She's my business partner for like Spade and Sparrows and I'm sure I met her at some point. We've been on your, you were one of the first people that ever had us on their podcast. I remember that. We were like, she just like took this chance on us. We had so much fun with you. You were drinking wine at like 10 a.m.

on a Tuesday. I used to not be able to podcast without wine and I was like, looking back, that was a problem. You were fun. I was like, She's wild. I was wild. I was wild. I really have tamed down.

Yeah, I got old too. What does that mean tamed down? I got tamed down. I live in L.A. now. So I am going to move back to New York, but I've lived in L.A. for three years. And like, I like taking a walk and drinking less and like dinner reservations are earlier.

I come back to New York. Oh, I love an early bird special. I love. But I come back here. I turn into a fat alcoholic piece of trash. Yeah. I drink so much. I drink seven days a week.

I stay out late. I stay up late. But it's New York. I'm like, oh, God, I just love a gin martini. My favorite combo is a gin martini and then a glass of Pinot Noir. And that is all I drink now. Like I usually I'd be like, okay, that's my pre-drink. Now let's go out.

If I drink that shower, I'm like, and now I go to bed. Yeah, me too. One glass of wine. I'm good. In L.A. people go out to dinner at like 6.30. It's crazy. I like that. But I like it.

I go bed early. I get up early. I feel good. Yeah. I am going to move back here. The war ring gets very mad at me if I do New York the way. Is Nashville, like, I've never, I mean, I've performed a natural lot, but I've never lived there. Is it like, New York is like, people go out seven nights a week.

You can find a party. Is Nashville like a go-out party city, like a lot of the nights a week? No, more for the tourists, not the locals. Okay. It's more of like a, find a nice dinner and stay away from Broadway. Okay. Yeah. I can't imagine going to Broadway if you're like not a tourist.

I go. Oh, it's my personal hell. Do you have a conspiracy theory you believe in? That's my hot take number two. I just love when people have a conspiracy. theory. Like, do you think Neil Armstrong landed on the moon? I don't care. People have all these conspiracy theories that I'm like, this wouldn't change my life in any way. And I don't care. People think pandas aren't real. What? People think that panda bears aren't real. Oh, that they're actually just

people in bear suits. People think birds aren't real. That's silly. And it's just like, I don't care. I don't care. Oh, they think it's like the government. They think the government. Yeah, have like put little microchips in all the birds. That's funny. I don't. I don't. I don't. Are you a conspiracy theorist? Do you have a conspiracy? No, I don't. I just like what other people do. I have a hot take.

My hot take is that champagne is disgusting. And I don't tell a lot of people because it's embarrassing. I don't like it. I hate when I'm at a party and they like give you a glass when you walk in. And I feel like a fucking nerd not taking it off of the tray. Yeah, you are if you don't want it. It's carbonated. I'm not going to get a buzz.

It's too sweet. And I just have this glass of champagne. Again, like a nerd. I like a nice glass of champagne. If it's good champagne, I like, um, smaller bubbles. I don't like when it's really bubbly. But that's, that's a, okay, hot take. I just think people like, like, they always bring it over to the table to say like, congrats. And I'm like, can I just get like a tequila shot? I still have champagne bottles from when I got

engaged because I'm like, everybody got a champagne. I have so much vove at my house and I just keep re-gifting it to other people. I re-gift all my champagne. I've never bought a ball of champagne. People just bring it to me and I just regit. Are we all lying to ourselves that we like champagne? No one like champagne. I just my actual, my, okay, I have a consistent. conspiracy theory. There are no new bottles of champagne. We're all just gifting each other's champagne. The champagne business is not thriving. Yeah, they're not making new bottles. No, there's Clea Shearer from the Home Edit, those girls. She, that's her drink of choice at all times. So she might be the only one. She's fancy. She's fancy. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance.

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I murder it. It happens to me like a lot. No, I do the same thing. Like I will take a long car. I'll walk for miles and just one song on repeat. I'm really into Machine Gun Kelly right now. I just, like, Spotify was like, you are in the top 1%. And I was like, I know.

And he performed last, I want to see him in concert so badly. And I missed him in L.A. And I was like, I'll catch him in New York. And last night, he was at the Barclay Center next door to Bam Theater where we had our show. And I was like, I can't believe he's right there and I can't go see him. I have had numerous dreams that him and I are together. You have? Yeah, like vivid, vivid dreams that he is my partner.

but it's so funny because I have two run-ins with him. So I was... Real ones? Yeah. I was at the Sports Illustrated party in New York like a couple years ago. And I did not expect to walk the carpet at all. I was just with girlfriends and we were going in and somebody was like, Caitlin, come do this.

And I was like, oh, okay. And so I went to walk the carpet and then I saw Megan Fox at the end of the carpet. And I was like, oh, this is, the universe was guiding me to meet Megan Fox. This is my chance. And then all the cameras like stopped taking photos of me. and then I was like, oh, humbling. And it was because Machine Gun Kelly, like, walked out, and all the cameras went to him.

And then he looked at me, and I was like, no, you go. And he's like, I'm so sorry. And I was like, no, it's okay. He was so sweet. And he's like, I'm really sorry. I was like, no, no. And then I left. And then at CMAs, remember he came out with, like, the country song,

he did like a remake of. He does a lot of, like, remixes and stuff. I was wearing a see-through dress. And he went, oh, I obviously like your dress. And I went, you're so lucky oh my god and yeah i feel like it was a moment i think he's amazing i don't know i just everything it's this like punk pop kind of he's got like beautiful features like he's got a very beautiful dainty nose he's got a strong jaw line he's got beautiful lips really he's pretty

but like like banged up pretty he's banged up pretty yes he is and i mean his whole body was covered in tattoos he was in the same spot as me as well one time we're like it's a lot of run-ins with a lot of run-ins with jealous yeah and i'm I'm glad that he's nice. So nice. I listen to him on repeat a lot. I listen to the chain smokers on repeat a lot. Taylor Swift.

There's always music on in my house. So I'll do like Alexa play Noah Con Radio in the morning because I like a little bit like folk kind of music in the morning. Dermit Kennedy is probably my number one. But you know the song Greenlight by Lord? I think I could listen to that song on repeat forever. Do you do like? Because there's so many, it's a journey.

I can listen to that. Yeah. I was wondering if it's like a mental disorder. that I just, I'll pick one song. If you spot it, you got it. I have it the same, I have the same thing. Glad there's community in it. There is.

I bet you a lot of people will relate to us on this. Make this a clip and see. Okay, that's really all I have. Okay, great. I was going to do the other game, but then I'm like, we don't have time. Okay. So whatever you want to do? That's it.

So that's right. Do you ever, like, end a voice note and, like, you get to the end and you're like, I don't know how to dismount this. I do it with every voice note. I do it with every podcast. I do it on the phone with people all the time. I never know how to wrap something up. I never know how to say goodbye.

And I never know how to end anything. It's the weirdest thing. And it's like I get uncomfortable every time. When I'm getting towards the end of a voice note, I start to get nervous. Yeah. How am I going to make this great? Yeah. But I'm pretty, I do a good job.

You're a comedian. You've got this. Okay, so where can everybody find you? And I know you already said it. But again, for your tour, for just easier on life. My tour starts January 29th. Honestly, you can get the tickets at Raina Greenberg. dot com. My Instagram is reina.

dot Greenberg and then my podcast is Girls Got to Eat. Caitlin, you're so fun. This is great. That was fun. TV shows and 51states. This is awesome. And TV shows like Survivor, SpongeBob SquarePants, the fairly odd parents and ghosts.

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