Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Shawn Booth III: Return of the Fiancé
Episode Date: August 21, 2017Shawn B is back yet again to go over the backlash over Rachel's choice on the latest season of The Bachelorette, the crazy time they had at Carley & Evan's wedding, and the eternal struggle i...n the household over Tucker Doodle's heart. Also, Shawn interviews a surprising guest: RICK DADDY! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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presentation okay are you ready to shake things up yes i am well kately bristow is creating a space
where girls and jens can feel empowered to be themselves because there's more to like than
instagram right what's that supposed to mean welcome to off the vine with kately bristow now here's
And by Caitlin, he means Sean B. That's right. Welcome to Off the Vine with Sean Booth, your second favorite person in the Boostow relationship. But don't you worry, the woman, the myth, the legend. Caitlin Bristow will be here shortly. She is running a little bit late per usual. And she asked me to get this party started. So that's what I'm going to do. I figured I really wanted to make a splash here.
and I thought that I would invite a very special guest.
He is one of my closest friends.
He is a phenomenon on social media.
Some of you may know him as Rick or Rick Daddy.
Please give me a warm welcome introducing Rick Daddy to the studio.
Hey, oh, is that a little loud?
Rick, right.
Sorry, I don't, what is this a podcast?
Rick, let's talk a little bit.
softer here. Thanks for showing up on such a last minute notice.
Yeah, well, thanks for having me, Sean, D. I'm pumped to be here.
Rick, so we've gotten pretty close over the past few months. Yeah, I would stay.
And I feel a little bad because right off the bat, I was kind of a little hesitant with you.
Yeah, I didn't notice. You seemed a little bit strange to me, but I am.
I'm glad we connected, and now I can gladly.
say that you are one of my closest friends.
Oh, Sean B.
And so, you know, a lot of people ask about you and they've seen you on our
Snapchats and they really want to know more about you.
So I'm going to take a few minutes here and we're really going to dive into who is
Rick Daddy.
Let's go diving.
All right.
So are you cool with doing?
You can laugh, Sean B, okay?
Are you cool?
Are you cool with doing a couple quick Q&A's?
Q&A, let's do it.
Rick Daddy style.
Tell the people, who is Rick?
I don't know what you mean who's Rick.
Rick is Rick.
Rick is a daddy, not to a child, just in general, a Rick Daddy.
Okay, so just a Rick Daddy.
Yeah.
All right?
That's it.
Cool beans.
Yeah, my cool beans.
Now, this might be a little bit of a sore subject, and I don't want to bring it up.
Oh, boy.
I know we spent a lot of time talking about a very special lady in your life, Donna.
Yeah.
I know there was a falling out.
A little bit.
Were you able to rekindle that, or how was everything going with Donna?
You know, Sean B, I really wanted to get her back.
I wanted to get back at Donna's good books.
But you know what I've realized over the past couple months, Donna, she kind of sucks.
I noticed that, too.
Do you think she listens to the podcast?
Ah, man, I don't think she does much.
I mean, if you're listening, Donna, you might want to shut it off.
I think that you could probably do a little bit better.
And I'm saying that as, you know, a place coming from a good place.
Yeah, well, it's because of social media, I think.
I really hit a big following, and now I'm just like, oh, there's so many options.
Do you have a lot of females, you know, sliding into those DMs?
Yeah, I check my stats.
It's 92% female following Rick Daddy, so.
Oh, that's pretty good.
Yeah, and Donna can't.
reads so she can't get in the DMs.
Ah, that I could see where that causes a problem.
Okay, so Donna's done for right now.
Well, I mean, she's still around, but...
What exactly do you look for in a woman?
Um, okay, well, I really like short, blonde hair.
All right.
Sometimes a side part.
I like white teeth.
Someone who really works out, you know.
Okay.
Someone with a really deep voice.
Somebody.
who is on a TV show.
Okay.
Somebody has blue eyes.
Crystal blue persuaders.
That sounds very nice.
What kind of car do you drive, Rick?
It's a sunfire.
Maybe a sunbird.
Something with the sun.
Yeah.
Okay.
Something with sun, two doors.
One mirror.
Doesn't run, but I like to sit in it and smoke.
Siggs.
Okay, see.
So you don't have a working car, just a car to kind of hang out and smoke Sigs.
Yeah, just to get away from Don.
All right.
That's cool.
Football season's coming up, Rick.
Got to ask you.
Who's your team?
I'm not the biggest football fan, but if I had to take one team, I'd probably say, like, the California raisins.
The raisins?
Yeah.
I like raisins.
Who's their starting QB this year?
Phil McDuby.
All right. Well, let's hope that Phil McDuby has a good season. I'm going to have to pick
him up on my fantasy team. You should. It's number one on mine.
All right, Rick. Let's, you know, I'm just going to give you the mic right now.
Oh. Say what you want to say. Is there anything you want to tell the people?
Just follow me on Instagram. Keep hitting the DMs.
And I guess last but not least, Rick.
Rick, what's your social media handles?
You got to tell them that.
You forgot.
Well, on Instagram, I'm Rick and Donna forever.
You.
And I don't have the twatter.
But on my email, if you want to email me.
You do email?
Yeah, oh, I've been doing email for the longest.
Rick Daddy 69 at AOL.com.
So AOL still is a thing?
Yeah, there's still a chat room, too.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, thanks for stopping by, Rick.
Anytime.
If you want to talk to Rick, you know where to find him.
Keep sliding into those DMs, girl.
Cool beans.
Cool beans it is.
Thank you, Rick.
You're welcome, Sean B.
What are you guys doing?
Hey, there she is.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome.
Caitlin Bristowie.
Well, babe, I really don't like when you hang out with that guy.
I know.
He's a little weird.
Are you still upset about our boys' night
we had at the house?
Yeah, there was a few questionable spots on the visa bill.
Well, he comes from a good place.
He's got a good heart.
You know, I kind of want to take him under my wing.
Anyways, I don't know what just happened,
but welcome to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow.
I'm a little nervous to listen to that one back
because I let Sean B. take the reins,
and apparently he invited Rick Daddy to the house.
Bye, Rick.
Later, bud.
See you.
I will give him that.
He's pretty funny.
He's cute.
Cheers.
I'm going to take a sip of my wine.
Oh, you have coffee.
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Anyways, Sean B, great to have you as a reoccurring guest.
Thanks for having me, Sean B, part three.
you know what one girl questioned me having you on again i saw that uh i guess not popular demand but
no you 98.9 percent of women want sean be back what did she say why is he on your podcast again
did an eye roll and she said but he's already been on your podcast and i was like yeah and he will be like 10
more times can't you find somebody better nope nope well nope good answer um so let's i mean let's talk
about the week. You're going to have to be really careful with that coffee cup and your ice and
swirling it around like you do. I was trying to do it stealthy, so nobody would hear. Well,
cheers me first. You can have your coffee. Cheers. I'll have my wine. Iceed coffee and water over here.
We've got wine going down the throat over there. What's the throat? That was weird. Going right
down the throat. Right down the hatch. That's what I meant to say. Yeah, you know. Anywho.
Anywho. How was your week? You had quite a quick drive here. Oh, yeah. Real quick.
quick. It was about a 40-hour drive from Nashville, Tennessee, up to Kelowna, British Columbia.
Yeah. Thank you for doing that drive to come see me.
You're welcome, Tuts. It was fun. I did.
That was fun? No, it wasn't very fun, but a lot of bonding time with Doodle.
He's just so good on road trips, because as long as he's by your side and you're right there,
he could just, he could lay there, which he did for days.
That's it. I mean, if you saw the video I posted on the old Graham,
Tucker Doodle, we set up pillows between the back seat and the center council.
So he just lays right there.
So his head is right on the center council.
And he needs me to be touching him at almost all times.
And once I take my hand off of his paw, he keeps slapping out in my hand.
Like, come on, come on, Dad.
You are Tucker.
Tucker is you.
Tucker's my guy.
Yeah.
So we did, it took us four days, right?
So we did like eight hours, 10 hours.
We don't have to do math here.
We don't have to do math.
Yeah.
So we did a nice little road trip
A little field trip
A little field trip
Who was that really for though?
That was for you
You drove through the zoo
The drive through zoo
And saw the bears
You didn't do that for Tucker
Of course it did for Tucker
We did that last year together
Yeah the three of us
Yeah it wasn't as fun this year without you
We missed you
It's all I wanted you to say there
So I took him to this open zoo
In the Dakotas
And there's all these crazy wild animals
Bears everywhere
And you just drive through
Seems safe. Seems real safe, right? Scared out of my mind.
Kept on checking the door locks every two seconds and dude was sitting in the back seat.
Because you know what? Bears can open doors.
Yes, they can. Yeah, I heard that.
No, they can. They'll go in your house and open your fridge and see what's for dinner.
Are you talking about the three bears?
Nope. All bears.
All bears? Yep. Okay. So I saw those bears and it was cool. It was fun. Tucker was pretty funny.
And then coming up through Canada, I saw a real live wild bear.
bear. Those were real live zoo bears. What's the diff? The diff was huge difference. This guy was
out in the wild running on his own. These other ones are contained within fences. Were you scared?
Yeah, I was scared, but I was driving down the road. I saw something pop up and I was like, holy crap. That looks
like a bear and it was huge. I drove past him and then he like got scared and went down in the weeds.
Oh, see, you're bigger than the bear. I know. And then he went out and ran the woods and I stopped and like,
wait a minute. That was actually a bear and he had to back up. So I backed up and then he
got up and ran right behind the car oh that was smart of you it was cool hey let's go back um okay
road trip whoa i decided to do a new thing on the podcast where we do confessions and we're going
to call it a kately kathleen confessional kately's confessional katlin's confessional
spell with a k yes um so this might maybe something happened on your road trip that you
want to confess to the people and i feel like i'm going to try and i'll tell you something
within my week that I need to confess, you tell me something, and maybe it will start
a new thing, and I'll get my guest to confess something. So what's your confession from your
road trip? My confession. Tell us something juicy. Juicy, all right. Okay, well, here's a good one.
How many times did you toot on your car rides? Um, 246. Approximately. Approximately. All right. So
every night, we had to stop at a hotel. And it can be tricky getting into hotels with a hundred
pound dog um so when i went to the hotels i go to the front desk and i ask if they have any
vacancy for the night and usually i roll in around midnight one o'clock in the morning so it's late
and um they say yes we do and then i say do you accept animals and they said no we do not and i said
well do you said what are you the devil basically and i said well i have a service dog
with me. And I go, oh, it's a service dog. I said, yes, he's a service dog. I said he's a
therapy dog. And you don't have to prove papers or anything, right? No, they've never questioned me
about it. They've never given me papers. He kind of is a therapy dog. He cures my anxiety all the time.
So I don't think it's that bad that I say he's a therapy dog. No. And you know what,
guys got to sleep. If he wasn't there, I want to be able to sleep. So he's providing therapy
right. So I can rest and drive safely. So he is a therapy dog. So he is a therapy dog. So he's a therapy
without the vest or the paperwork. Wait, so what are you confessing? This seems very, very innocent.
I mean, I guess I'm just innocent and I had a great trip and we didn't do anything wrong.
But you too did it. We only stopped at two strip clubs and that was after the zoo.
Oh, that was wild. Pretty crazy. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't even know. I'm trying to think of a confession that I can say. But the only thing that I keep
thinking of is like I feel like I always do embarrassing things and I always talk about it.
Yeah, you're pretty embarrassing person.
do you want to take that back or um only a few people know this about me my very close friends and
you that when i go to the bathroom no matter what bathroom i'm going to i always turn on the tap
and then after again no matter what i wash my hands and i do a dance around the bathroom
with soap on my hands so that whoever goes in after me it smells like soap and they're like oh
she smells great after the bathroom so your theory is if you have soap
on your hands and you start waving them around that it's going to smell like soap and not dukey or anything
like I just want the bathroom to smell nice after okay they have air fresheners you know you just
spray yeah but that seems like no Casey here's my theory if you spray a um air freshener it seems
like you did something wrong in there and you're trying to cover up the smell where this is just like
oh she washed her hands oh I see where you're going that little more natural smell that was like when
you got when you after your big road trip
and you got home, I baked you banana bread, and I wanted the apartment, the apartment condo,
whatever that thing is, I wanted it to smell like banana bread for when you got there.
So I started doing a dance with banana bread all around the condo so that it smelled nice for when you
arrived.
You start doing that on Snapchat.
Well, but then you would have saw, and I wanted it to be a surprise.
That banana nuts bread was so good.
Sean ordered banana nut bread at Starbucks today, and he said banana nuts bread, and we both
couldn't even hold it together because we're so mature.
I was like, what are we, 12?
Caitlin was in the passenger seat, snorting and, like, curled over laughing because I said banana nuts bread.
I'm still laughing.
I think it's gold.
I will never order banana nuts bread without saying an S.
Okay, well, that's a fun confession.
Yeah.
I wonder what I'll come up with next week.
I do really do embarrassing things.
I'm sure I could think of something better.
That is a good one.
Have all your guests confess something that they've done.
In the week?
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of something else.
Nope.
We're done.
All right.
We're moving on.
moving on we're done with the confessions uh so you finally got here and i couldn't wait to like
do all this like lake stuff with you go hang out at the beach go on the boat and what do you do
you wake up bright and early and you go on your computer and you sit on your computer and you sit on
your phone i'm just sitting there twiddling my damn thumbs wanting to do fun summer stuff with you
and you sit on your computer i know it's only well because i've been working
It's not like you're looking at porn, but like...
I'm not really on social media that much.
I've just been grinding away.
I'm finally launching my MealPen website.
So, it's going to be next week, hopefully by the end of the week.
It's so funny because it actually was doing really well before you, like, rebranded it and put all this effort into it.
It was almost not doing too good, but it was getting so much attention and it was to the point where I couldn't even keep up with it.
Right.
So we got some people on our team and then we revamped this website.
entirely and it took almost a year which is insane and um yeah so we are super pumped to get it
going next week and it's legit like this is a legit website where because it's your meal plans
yep meal plans and workouts and workouts so basically you can just go to sean's website and get yourself
on a meal plan and a workout regime is that what they say regime regime regime regime regime
Regime?
Yes, you can.
But it's tailored to your body.
Exactly.
That's why it's so legit.
And the reason why this website has been taken so long is because we got this like crazy
algorithm systems like super high tech.
Now where you can go on the website and you put in information about yourself, you'll put in
gender, age, height, weight, your goals and it will generate all this information and
pump out these meal plans because everybody wants everything immediately.
right so now including myself it pumps out these plans um instantly you get it sent to your email you get
access to this members area where it has all these videos instructional videos when is it going to launch
next monday to 28th so it would be monday to 28th when they hear this okay also i just want to mention that
our meal plans that we provide we don't actually provide the food what we're doing is giving you
guidelines and telling you exactly what to eat and how much to eat to help you reach your goals so there's
no food involved, so don't worry, Green Chef. We're not trying to step on your turf. Maybe we can team
up. But I feel like the team that you have is so knowledgeable and like they all have, like they're very
qualified. Well, that's the thing. You want to find legit meal plans and workout programs. Make
sure you're doing your research and find somebody legit. Now you see some people selling meal plans
on social media and you want to ask, are they even a registered dietitian? We have registered
dietitians, our restaurant dietitian has his master's in nutrition and he's one of the most
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anybody really puts the time and effort. And it's all good stuff because I've seen your meal
plans and I've seen what you put out to people and I'm like, oh, it's actually like really good.
very doable. That's the thing. There's so many new fad diets and crazy diets and it's just like
this is just backed by science. It's food you find at the grocery store. And it's longevity. Like
good. It's a lifestyle, babe. It's a lifestyle. A lot of these diets you'll lose weight. You'll lose
like 20 pounds in five weeks and you'll gain it right back because it's not sustainable. But this is
and if you want more information, send me an email to info at shanboothmeals.com. Yeah. And then maybe
one day we can actually hang out hopefully someday soon someday soon seriously though like I'm
but you're a champ because you just had to deal with me going through Iron Man training at the same time
when I'm not doing that I'm doing this and I keep wanting to do relationship stuff and I am putting
being put on the back burner you should see the face you just made it was a classic Rick face
no it was a classic pouting Caitlin face for their arms crossed probably pulling down or
pants in two seconds because that's what she does when she's mad pay attention to me that's what we
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little while with us? We went to Carly. Oh, no, not we went. We watched Carly and Evans wedding
on TV, which I had them on a couple of weeks ago.
So I feel like we already went over how amazing that day was and beautiful and special.
And I totally called her being pregnant.
Yeah, you did.
It's crazy because I was listening to that.
And when you asked her if she wanted a drink and she said like instantly, she was like, no, no, no, we have to go like.
I was like, oh, boom, pregnant.
I was like, oh, boom, pregnant.
I was like, wait a minute.
And then I felt bad because I was like, are you pregnant?
She was like, no, no.
And I was like, oh, shoot, what if she is.
Yeah, but I don't think anybody.
looking back at it now it's like oh yeah she was but she played it off pretty cool yeah did you
think she actually was pregnant yeah i did i did yeah that's why i didn't keep pushing when did she
tell you uh like a day before they they announced it yeah um speaking of babies what
janer i was going to say what us well yeah janner baby oh congratulations to the janer family
so cute tanner just posted a picture on instagram and she's the cutest and she has a full head
I know.
So awesome.
She was four weeks early.
Eager little beaver.
Yeah.
That's so cute.
Doing what you want.
Does that give you baby fever?
I've had baby fever for a while now.
You have.
Yeah.
So have I.
Yeah.
But then I have wine fever and I go into like babies are us and I'm like, oh.
And then I go to the liquor store and I'm like, oh.
Yeah.
No, I could totally do nine months, obviously, for the most beautiful gift life could give you.
But I feel like we always say this, that we're just so excited.
of babies and we put the wedding on the back burner.
Yes, that seems more exciting than a wedding.
What?
I can hear you.
You're supposed to say you can't wait to marry me.
I can't wait to marry you, but the thought of having a baby seems more exciting than the thought of having a wedding.
Yeah, screw tradition.
But weddings are fun.
I mean, we had a blast at Carlyne Evans.
We had so much fun there.
Did you see the interview they did with E-News?
And they're like, who's the wildest wedding guest?
And Evan was like, Caitlin.
Yeah.
And Carly was like, yeah, Caitlin was.
I'm like, that was tame, Caitlin.
I was just dancing up a storm with you.
I was up there with you for Wildest.
Yeah, well, Cupcake was definitely the wildest, wildest because his shirt just kept getting more unbuttoned.
I was influencing that big time.
I told him, and this is like a thing at weddings for guys, if you don't notice.
Like, all of a sudden the night goes on and more clothing comes off.
That's like, goes with their shoes.
And then the shirt goes unbuttoned.
So I told Cupcake, I'm like, I want to see a button undone every hour.
And he committed.
And it came to the point where he had absolutely nothing on.
And he was going for it, but we all were.
Like, I feel like me, you cupcake, actually a lot of us, we're just on the D floor all night, tearing it up.
At one point, I went to the bathroom because I had to pee, and I pulled down my dress and my two, like, jelly boobs fell out into the toilet.
And I was like, this is a good night.
Classic, classic.
And I wasn't drinking much before that because of my Iron Man trained, but I let loose that night.
I had a bunch of margaritas.
Fun Sean came out.
Fun Sean B.
Missed you.
And contrary to a lot of people's thoughts, it looked like I was pretty miserable and bored during the ceremony when they aired the show.
Yeah, but that's because we're all just so staring and into it, but it's so hot.
I was not bored.
I don't think he looked miserable.
It was fun.
I wish they had cameras rolling for the after party.
I don't.
No.
I didn't do.
That was fun.
That was fun.
But I can't think of anything crazy that happened, though.
Can you?
I can't.
No.
Except for my boobs falling out.
Yeah, but we picked those.
suckers up and we threw them right back in we gave him a little rinse and we threw them back in there
okay so i was thinking we could play a game no it's a segment all right segment game whatever
can you not i put it out there on instagram and i said let's think of some things like
things that bug me like you know the grinds my gears thing that i did this one's like okay can
you not well
Um, can you not?
Can you not?
We can say it so many different ways, but I've got a few.
So this is like fads, trends.
Yeah.
All right, enough is enough.
Yeah, like, can you not?
And then you just picture the Ken doll with his hand up, like, can you not?
Can you not?
Does the Ken doll talk like that, though?
Yeah, he does in my mind.
Like a valley girl?
Can you not.
What's one of your Kenyanauts?
Oh, man.
Excuse me.
I feel like a lot of the Keny nots.
revolve around social media because let's face it what doesn't revolve around social media like when
when people go on vacation and they do a jumping shot in the air and then they get the picture and it
looks like they're like we're having so much fun but like can you not all right here's something
that i think i'm getting a little tired of and i feel like it's going to offend like 90% of the
listeners here perfect right maybe you've even done this captions um i am i i'm i
I'm tired of girls using the excuse of, like, tacos and burritos and fast food and pizza as, like, an excuse for a caption.
It'll be, like, somebody will be, like, sitting out.
They'll be in, like, a bathing suit.
They'll be in, like, this gorgeous, like, dress in, like, the middle of the desert or something and be like, I'm really just thinking about Taco Bell.
It's like, no, you're not.
You're just trying to be relatable.
Yes, you're trying to be relatable.
I'm totally guilty of it, though.
But, yeah, it's like, we get it.
Who doesn't like tacos?
I like tacos.
Everyone likes tacos.
Or it's like a girl will be like, it'll be like a selfie and she'll be like giving the duck lips and be like, I'm really just thinking of pepperoni pizza.
It's like that's a lie.
Just post your picture.
You think you look good.
Just post it.
I'm trying to think.
You're not thinking of pepperoni pizza and we all like pizza.
I like McDonald's, but I don't try to be sexy about it.
No.
Can you not?
Can you not?
Do we need to make up a theme song for that or do we just allow it to be the kent?
you not I think you should just do that okay um okay I've got another one uh can you not stand
one inch behind me at the grocery line or any line so I can feel your hot breath on my neck
are you talking directly to me right now because you look me in the eyes do I do that no but I
don't know I guess it's maybe part of my misophonia where I hear them breathing behind me that's
not a good one can you not move on go I don't know I don't have anymore I do
crowd pre-boarding at the airport at the airport pre-bording you're zone five why are you
boarding you're zone five can you not yeah and everybody crowds around and then the people who
actually have yeah my thing with that is is that you're going on the plane to wait more
yeah to sit more why why don't we all just relax and then go on as a called and then uh hang out
Um, can you not?
That was good.
Shout out to breathe for the voiceover.
Can you not have so many opinions for a girl who just found the love of her life on TV and make her feel like crap about her decision?
That's a good one.
Like, definitely.
Um, can you not?
I'm like, I was baffled at the response to Rachel picking Brian because that's her.
choice. Yeah, but were you baffled by it? No. Like the response, not baffled by her actual decision.
No, no, no, not baffled by her decision. I knew she, the whole time, I was like, there's no way it's not Brian.
Right. But it was just the last one where it was like, yeah, that's a tough goodbye.
Doesn't mean I ever questioned her and Brian. And everyone was like, oh my gosh, you chose the ring over the love of your life. And people went, no.
nuts. And I was like, this reminds me at the time. Yeah. Well, not really, but certain things.
Like, you know, Rachel, people started saying that she was rude to Peter. I got so
upset for her with that. Yeah, there are a lot of things that got me worked up watching that
finale. Yeah, I can see the, like, steam coming out of your ears right now.
No, it was, it was a tough one to watch. I only watched the first episode.
And I think some of the men tell all in the last episode.
Oh, so you really were invested.
I was really invested.
But there was like two main things I took away from that finale.
I felt, I think the word is disappointed and how it played out.
Because to me, I believe, and I think that that show is all about finding love and having this love story.
and then having this romantic ending, right?
This crazy journey.
And then it should be this like powerful ending
that makes everybody feel good,
that sends the couple off into the world feeling good.
Yeah.
But I felt it was like they took almost the entire episode
and focused it on the breakup with Peter.
And then it was like, oh yeah.
And by the way, Brian and Rachel are engaged.
Yeah.
Congrats.
And then everybody's like, oh, my God, it's terrible.
She didn't want to be with him.
It's like, it just...
And it's like, they've actually been happy for a few, like, months now.
Yeah.
And now they have to go relive that.
But it's like, yeah, of course.
That was a tough goodbye for Rachel.
She cared about Peter.
And in that moment, you know, but they're happy.
And she picked Brian.
And why would you be so mean to somebody who just found the love of her life?
Right.
Like, why are you so mean?
And then, you know, with her, everyone's saying, oh, she was so rude to Peter.
I got that same thing.
When it was our finale, everyone was like, you were so...
You were rude to Peter at our finale?
I just spat all over you.
I was apparently rude on stage with Nick,
but nobody really knows, I mean, it was live TV.
I should have just came out and been like,
this is why I'm being this way.
But I don't know if I should say this, but should I?
No, tell me.
I don't know. Do you want to...
Well, it was just, everyone thought I was being rude,
but what you don't know is you've already moved forward with somebody and that's the love of
your life. You have to protect your relationship. You can't go back into the moment of like having
feelings. You've already moved past it. You're already like, oh, this is the love of my life and we're
moved forward. So you're protecting a relationship. But not only that, I was sitting up there
and before you like I was going to go to Jimmy Kim or something and I saw Nick's whole family walk out and I haven't seen them since the hometown so then I'm like I'm like oh my gosh I got so awkward and I hid behind a van because I was like I just like hurt this person and his family who's been through this before and I hid behind a van and I was like what am I supposed to say to them like I don't know headlines next week Caitlin Bristow hid behind van to avoid Nick's family well it wasn't to avoid is because I felt stupid and I was like
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don't worry they're just here to support him in his dressing room because he's gone through a lot i'm like
oh okay well then i go out and sit on the live after show with him and his whole family is front row
staring me in the eyes like yeah it's a tough spot and i just froze i absolutely froze so then it was
Like, you don't know what Rachel was going through with Peter on that stage because she just
watched that relationship back. And I got a feeling from her just from watching that she thought
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The other takeaway that I had during that finale was that I wasn't really buying anything that Peter was saying.
Am I the only one who thought that?
I was watching this and I'm like, okay, I guess I don't understand exactly what he's feeling.
Right.
But I can put myself in his shoes because I was there.
Is anybody completely ready to be engaged at the end of that?
No.
No.
But if you're claiming to be madly in love with her,
If you're claiming that you can see a future with her, if you're claiming that you want to have kids with her and all this stuff, you make it happen.
Like, he's like, well, I take engagements very seriously.
Well, I can guarantee I take engagements in marriage just as serious as him.
And it got to the point.
It's like, okay, well, then you're going to man up and do this.
If you really, if you really truly want to be with her, if you're truly in love with her, I felt like he was just way too calculated.
I felt like he knew what he was doing.
And you're not saying this is how he is.
This is how you feel.
This is how I feel.
I think he's probably a great guy.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm sure we'll run into him and hang out at some point.
It seems like he's got a lot of things in common, like fitness and need an Iron Man.
Isn't this actually so funny now that we're what?
What?
Sorry, I cut you off.
No.
Oh, I'm just thinking how funny this is like, because we've clearly been through it and we're trying to be so understanding of all different sides.
And I'm thinking about that one girl from the podcast.
I don't remember her name.
I think she's from the bitch Bible.
And we went to like listen to her podcasts.
And because it's funny because it's like it's so easy to judge these people on the shows and be like, oh, you dummy and you're so this and you're so that.
But we're like, well, I'm sure he's a really great guy.
But listening to her podcast, she was like, Sean sucks.
He's a dummy and Caitlin's a side bitch.
And I was like, hey, whoa, that's funny.
But that's come on your podcast?
That's really funny.
but like you know like you don't know so I understand what you're saying I agree that I
I don't know if he's being sincere I can be completely wrong I know exactly and I hated when
people judged me on the show I hate when people thought I was this way and when I was that way
which when I wasn't yeah but looking from the outside end I wasn't buying that he was truly
and madly in love with her which could have been why you may have seen Rachel a little
testy towards him maybe she realized i saw a article where she said something like he was manipulative
and there's stuff that people didn't see so maybe obviously she knew more than anybody yeah so maybe
she felt like okay she's with brian now and now she's sitting on stage with a guy who
exactly almost kind of trying to play her but maybe not we don't know i have no clue we don't see
everything and that's why you have to trust this was rachel's season right she found brian they
clearly are still making it work that is her how she feels that's her call that's who she chose why are we so
angry at her for what she believes in exactly i just feel like the format of that show and the way they show it
never sets a couple up for success and that is definitely a reason why a lot of these couples fail
because every season there's a storyline that's bigger than the engagement this season it's she really
loved peter but she just wanted that ring and every saying that's
that Brian is
like a backup
or whatever
last season
and it was with
I mean Ben and
that wasn't last season
or whatever
so Ben and Lauren
oh he told Jojo he loves her
so it's like every couple
has to deal with an issue
after they're engaged
because it's the way
that it's showed
and portrayed which I totally get
it's TV
yeah exactly
so it's it'll never change
you get the drama that you want
but I wish I'd seen a little bit more of a love story at the end.
Isn't that funny?
Why?
I just think it's so funny.
Like, do people watch The Bachelor for a love story?
I think they do.
I think they want to see a happy ending.
They want to see everything work.
They want to root for somebody.
But it's like, but also what gets ratings is being on your toes and having to tune in
and being like, oh my gosh, that gets everybody talking.
Now everybody's, we're still.
talking about the finale. Right. Exactly. That's what they want. So it's almost like, it felt like,
okay, the Bachelorette's over, the last episode, they're done, they're engaged. But now
it's time to start gearing up for Bachelor and who's going to be the next Bachelor. And so you show a
dramatic breakup with Peter, you get everybody feeling really bad, a lot of talk. But there's a tweet from
yesterday. I don't know if you saw this. What? What was it at me? No. Oh, how would I see it?
From a tweet from your buddy, Mike Fleiss.
BFF.
And he said, do we really want a bachelor who isn't ready to settle down with the woman he loves?
Hmm.
Not what the bachelor is all about.
So isn't that basically saying that there's no way we're going to have Peter as the bachelor?
Yes.
Wow.
He said that?
Yeah.
Wow.
That was passive.
That was.
Interesting.
oh so to me i'm like so what was going on behind the scenes he creates the whole show he started
the show yeah so he's now putting it out there that like yeah do we really want this guy he's
basically he wants people to stop talking about it to find another bachelor because power of
suggestion exactly put it out there and then everyone be like oh yeah maybe we don't oh peter's probably
so pissed maybe he doesn't want to be a bachelor maybe he was super sincere maybe he was madly in love
I know that's the shitty thing is that you'll never know we'll never know but from the outside
looking in if he was then he would have just did everything you possibly could to end up with her
at the end of that show. Yeah exactly because engagements mean something to all of us right we know it's
ridiculous to get engaged after 12 weeks of knowing somebody on a TV show where everything's manipulated
we know that's ridiculous but if we feel like that's we don't want to lose each other yeah well we're
going to do it because there's the chance that this could be you're like happily ever after and that's
the same thought process that I had going in when I was there the first like on the plane talking to my
family my friends like listen if I if I am madly in love with this girl there's no way I'm going to
propose at the end like that's just too short of time yeah but then you get through the process
and you're getting closer you're close you're like all right yeah I don't want to lose her
and you realize how amazing she is exactly so what you didn't question it at all
I mean question it
You were ready to get down on one knee that day
Oh
Don't hesitate
I'm just kidding but
You know the situation
Obviously you're like wow this is crazy
Should I be proposing?
Am I actually proposing right now?
I just met her
Yeah it is crazy
But that's the show
Everything's crazy about that show
Yeah
So as far as the next bachelor
Yeah who do you think it's going to be the next bachelor
I don't know
But I want to watch somebody
who really genuinely deserves it.
Like somebody who got their heart ripped out of them
and is like super upset and really wants to find love
and somebody can root for instead of somebody like Peter
who's just like, I can't do this.
I don't want to propose.
So Ben H.
So, yeah.
I said, hey, listen, Ben H for Bachelor again.
I'm all about that.
Are you?
Yeah, of course.
I, well, I think it's too soon.
He's clearly hard for.
Not right now, but I think a year or two
if he's still single.
I know this, everybody talks about this, but like, seriously, who is a possibility to be the next bachelor?
I think it looks like after that season that the favorite is Dean.
Oh, my gosh.
Girls love him.
Girls love him to the point where I'm like, is he in one direction?
Doesn't he have a larger falling than all the other guys?
And he was...
Oh, babe, I don't know.
I haven't looked into that.
No, they said he's the fan favorite with the largest fallon.
Of course he's the fan favorite.
he was set up for success on that show but the thing i can't get behind i think dean seems like
such a sweetheart and such a good guy but i'm like that guy is not even close to being ready for
marriage no he needs to go on paradise like three more times he needs to like figure himself out i feel
like he is such a sweetheart and he has a good heart and i don't know maybe he is ready for love but
what i get from it is that he just is so young
and needs to do some serious, like, dating first.
I don't know.
Maybe. I don't know.
He seemed like a great guy.
I just can't think of who they're going to pick for The Bachelor.
What about the third place guy?
Eric, I thought he was.
I really liked him.
Oh, Eric was awesome.
He was awesome.
I felt like he was, like, he was genuinely there for her, right?
I feel like he really wanted to end up with her.
He really wanted to propose to her.
Yeah, he's got a great Bachelor story.
He's never been in love before.
Well, before Rachel.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah. He'd never been in love. He'd never told a girl. He didn't bring a girl home ever until Rachel. He had a great family. And that's what you need. You need the storyline. Yeah. What was my storyline? Oh, I couldn't open up or something. What was my storyline? I don't know. I couldn't. They didn't really need a storyline because I had two bacheloretts. That was like the thing. Like, who were they going to pick? But for Bennett was he felt unlovable. Yeah.
A Peter that would have been a good, maybe it is still a possibility. Maybe it is a good story. I can't see. Well, now that I see my.
Mike Fleiss didn't want me to be the Bachelorette.
He doesn't want Peter to be the bachelor's.
So who knows?
Yeah, maybe he just did that just to create some stir just to see the response.
But that sounded like, yeah.
That's pretty shady.
Yeah.
That he was throwing shade big time.
That's what he does.
He's really good at her.
I get awkward or no.
So anyways, transition.
What do we transition to?
you want to get to some questions but all in all rachel and brian best of luck like
rachel's a badass she is brian seems like a good guy we need to get together with them we will
yeah i've been texting with her a bit she wants to come on the podcast we should have a double-date
podcast for sure and uh yeah i can't wait to hang out with them they seem like beauties just so show
your support well that's the thing you know what i love about the listeners of off the vine is
I feel like they're all very supportive
and they're all cool chicks that listen
and they're just like, you know.
Yeah.
I understand.
Yeah.
Well, here's the other thing.
Go on.
Last thing about the bachelor finale.
Yeah.
The week before that, right,
if the season had ended the week before,
wouldn't everybody have been like,
oh, of course it's Brian, right?
Wasn't that what I heard that he was so clear in front of everybody?
But it wasn't until the breakup where I'd be like,
oh my God, what are you doing?
It's like, well, why don't you think to last week when you thought that he was going to win?
If she picked Peter, oh, here's an interesting one.
Eric said the whole time he thought and knew it would be Brian.
I told you this.
Oh.
Right?
Well, I was trying to look smart on my podcast.
You could have just went with it.
Okay, so Eric thought it was Brian from the get-go.
Yes.
Always thought it was Brian until he watched back.
Until he watched.
Exactly.
Now, that tells you something.
It's like, exactly, because you watched the edited version on TV, and then you thought, oh, man, it's Peter.
Yeah, because it's like, well, she had feelings for Peter.
She had feelings for Eric.
She cared about these people.
Of course, it's hard to say goodbye.
Yeah.
And I hate when people were saying she chose a ring.
It's like, okay, listen, I'm pretty sure Rachel could have gotten a ring from anybody after this.
Like, the ring is not an issue.
She could end that show single and end up being engaged to somebody.
And Peter even said he would have done it for her.
she still would have got a ring she didn't do it for the ring right rachel is not that dumb
rachel i think proved herself the whole season that she is really smart an intelligent badass chick
who knows what she wants right yeah you get confused at the end because you're on zero sleep
you have no family you have no friends you're you've only got what people are telling you in that
world it's hard but you know what you want at the end and that's what you do is you do what you
want and unless you're jason jason who meznik okay he still realized oh nope i actually know what i want
and this isn't it and went back and got molly right so you know what you want yes don't question
i feel like i lost you no i completely agree i felt for them watching that i did too i felt bad i felt
like this must be super tough for brian he has to sit here and watch this and then the hate that he was
getting on social media and everybody just it was all about peter and the breakup and it's like man
these two just got engaged and they're ready to finally be in public yeah and finally go off as a
couple and they are just getting all this shit on necessary hate because of but if she would
have picked peter people would have lost their minds he didn't deserve you he wasn't ready
you picked that over true love that's just how this world works right and
Everybody likes to criticize and everybody likes to find something to be mad at.
And to keep talking about it, which we're doing.
Like me.
Like me.
Sometimes I was in a great mood this morning and I decided to find something to be mad at.
Like you tried finding everything to be mad at this morning.
I don't know about everything.
I woke up in a good mood and then the next thing you know, everything was wrong.
No, I really liked that you made me breakfast and we had a nice breakfast out on the patio.
Okay. You're talking about Tucker's hair.
I was talking about it. It was just messy. And I think I get uncomfortable in mess. I like when things are clean.
I folded all the towels, but you're mad that they were dish washing towels and the towels that are used for the bath and they're folding on your bed.
Yeah, because I was like, why couldn't you just put the kitchen dish towels in the kitchen?
How come you can't say thanks, babe, for folding everything?
Don't get me started on not thanking me for so many things I've done this week while you sit on your computer!
Can you not?
Can you not?
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questions comments and concerns
I didn't write down the questions.
I just took screenshots.
So forgive me for, what do you keep looking at over there?
Tweets about off the bind of what they want to hear.
No.
What is it?
I don't know.
I didn't move it.
My screen is really correct.
Witness of his would like to know who does the cooking, cleaning, paying the bills, and what's your favorite downtime?
Let's start with cooking.
You can cook.
I can cook, but you do mostly cook and you enjoy it.
Yeah.
I don't necessarily enjoy it.
I love cooking for you.
Yes, and I love that you love cooking for me.
And I love that you love that I love cooking for you.
Does that make sense?
That works.
Cleaning.
We both do.
Yeah.
I would say that's a very good balance, especially in our own home because I like to sleep in.
You are like a weirdo early bird and you get up and you empty the dishwasher and you make sure it's clean for when I wake up, which I really appreciate.
Thanks, babe.
thank you babe um paying the bills we well we yeah we split everything but i handle
all the payments and you're actually really good at that kind of stuff like the adulting stuff
i'm like here's the money you adult yeah i adult i do most of the are all the all of it all the chores
and chores not chores you do yard work and you do you do i do a lot you do you do a lot you do
a lot. And I'm trying to think, let me and I. No, I don't do anything. No. What's our favorite
downtime? You on the computer? What is our favorite downtime? I don't know. I feel like
just hanging out, relax. Actually laying in bed eating food. The amount of times we eat dinner in bed
is a little embarrassing. Yay. I enjoy it.
let's i'm trying to find good ones
what i'm not reading that i've heard you guys read read oh no he just said that some sam it could be a girl
sam er sam our time what did you think of that wedding in paradise your faces were priceless but
we already discussed that it was a good time uh step vm i heard you guys say you want to have kids
do you feel you're ready or would you wait a few years i think we're still going to wait a couple
years but we're ready. Yeah. Like if I got pregnant tomorrow, I would not be mad. Right. Yeah, we're ready
to take on the responsibility. Yeah, I think we'd be good parents. Yes. Do you? I know we would.
Sam, another Sam. Samantha B. Mugs. Plans for a wedding, you made a bet with Jimmy Kimmel.
I really jumped the gun on that one with Kimmel. We might have to owe them, or no, it'd be. I was
panicked on that show because I was like, this is uncomfortable. Wait, he'll be. Wait. He
He gave you money.
He was going to, and I said double and nothing.
Then he said, when I said this year.
Oh, man.
I'm an idiot.
Do you think that ABC would ever offer us a wedding?
Uh-uh.
Yeah, I don't think so either.
They would have by now.
Yeah.
How come they haven't?
Well, I think to me, I don't really care.
I don't think we both care if it's on TV or not.
I think it's the principle that we're like, what is the deal?
Because I really don't care if our wedding's on TV are off.
I just can't wait for all of our family and friends to be there and us to just like, I can't wait to wear a wedding dress.
I can't wait for my dad to walk me down the aisle.
I can't wait to see your face at the end of the aisle.
I can't wait for so many of the, like, important wedding stuff.
But it's true.
It's so weird.
It's like Bachelor and Paradise weddings.
They've done weddings for past bachelors.
I know Dez had a, didn't have like a televised and it took a lot.
Didn't they do one for Des?
But it wasn't televised.
Yeah.
So have they ever done a Bachelorette wedding?
Yeah.
Who?
Ashley.
Oh, yeah.
Because we just saw that montage.
Oh, which was so cute.
Yeah, I don't know.
No, I think if they would offer it to us, it would have already been offered.
Yeah, I agree.
And that's that.
We're going to have to plan ourselves.
Oh, gosh.
What else?
Oh, that's a good one.
How do we keep the romance alive?
Marie Carvigel.
I'm worse.
Marie Carvajal, since you all have been together a while now, how do you keep the romance alive?
K.Y. Jilly.
For his and her pleasure.
How do we keep the romance alive?
How do we?
I don't know.
I think we're both.
I don't know.
I just feel like we're in love.
I think we are just attracted to each other, so it's not that hard.
Yeah.
I mean, it is hard, too, because you're like,
What do you keep looking at over there?
I feel like we live together.
We see each other every day.
It is actually kind of hard to keep the romance alive if you mean like every day.
Right.
But I don't think it's like a struggle for us to be romantic.
Eliza Morgan wants to know, would you let Tucker do it'll be the ring bearer at your wedding?
Absolutely.
No, because he'll be the best man.
Yeah, that's a problem.
He could probably double as both.
He could.
He'll bring the ring and then sit beside you.
Yeah.
Because he won't move.
He will sit beside you the whole wedding.
Exactly. He might come over to me once, but then he'll run right back to you. How does it feel? This is my own question, that you love a dog more than your fiancé. Get out of here. It's a different kind of love.
I don't know. Yes, different but stronger for doodle. It's a very strong love.
You for sure. The other night, you used to tell me back in the day that you would sleep closest to the door in any room we slept in. I'm saying you said,
Which I do.
Because in case something happens, you want to keep me safe.
Everywhere we go.
It doesn't matter if we're in a hotel or at the house or whatever bed we sleep in.
I always take the spot closest to the door.
So I will get stabbed first if somebody runs in the room.
Excuse me.
We're trying to podcast here.
We're not answering that.
Yeah, but that's how I feel like I knew that, you know, maybe the romance is dead because last night or the night before.
I'm like, what side do you want?
You're like, I just want to be closest to Tucker.
No, that is a complete lie.
You would not let me sleep into the closest to the door.
Remember as soon as I came in?
You're like, I'm sleeping closest to the door.
Yes, that night.
And then the next night, too, you wouldn't let me sleep there.
No, the next night you said, I want to sleep on that side.
And I said, why?
And I wanted you to say something cute.
And you said, because I want to be by Tucker.
Yeah, I said I wanted to sleep on that side where you were.
Yeah, because you wanted to be close to Tucker.
Yeah, which was also the side closest to the door.
Anyways, that's all we've got for today.
That's it?
Well, I don't know.
What do you have?
Anything else?
I've got nothing.
Do you have anything?
Nope.
Just that maybe next time, just say something sweet.
Even if you want to be close to Tucker, tell me you want to protect me.
I do.
That's why I wanted to sleep on that side.
Okay.
Next week I'll tell you guys what Sean did.
That was really sweet.
Perfect.
And I'll have another confession for you.
Got seven days to work on it.
Seven days.
Come up with something good so I can tell the peeps.
Okay, that's it for today.
I feel like we covered a lot.
We did.
We did.
It was nice to have you back on my podcast.
We did it from the kitchen.
It seemed a little unprofessional.
Noddy.
So us.
So us.
This is so us.
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