Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Sophie Skelton | Outlander Actress on the Role That Changed Her Life!

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

#920. Before Outlander, Sophie Skelton was working night shifts, facing rejection, and waiting on an audition she wouldn’t hear back about for nearly a year! Then came the trip to Los Angeles where everything went wrong — and the moment that would CHANGE HER LIFE!In this deeply honest conversation, Sophie opens up about the discipline that shaped her, the pressure of carrying an iconic role for nearly a decade, and the self-doubt that didn’t disappear when success finally arrived.She also shares the emotional responsibility of stepping into a real woman’s life in her new film, I Can Only Imagine 2, and why some stories stay with you long after the cameras stop rolling.This episode is about risk, resilience, and what happens when you trust yourself before anyone else does!If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE!Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these AMAZING deals!Covergirl: Go the distance with COVERGIRL’s new Eye Enhancer Wrap Tubing Mascara for a lash extension effect. Shop at your nearest retailer now. Only from Easy, Breezy, Beautiful COVERGIRL.comBoll & Branch: Get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at bollandbranch.com/vine15, code vine15 to unlock 15% off. Exclusions apply.Bombas: Head over to Bombas.com/VINE and use code VINE for 20% off your first purchase.Momentous: Right now, Momentous is offering our listeners up to 35% off your first order with promo code VINE when you head to livemomentous.com.Apartments.com: The Place to find a place!EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: (06:15) Sophie shares how being forced into ballet at age two shaped her discipline and resilience.(15:21) Why she chose acting with no backup plan — even when everyone told her not to.(23:22) She waited nearly a year after auditioning for Outlander — and refused to watch the show during that time.(25:46) The chaotic audition trip where everything went wrong — but changed her life.(52:25) Sophie reveals she still doesn’t know how Outlander ends.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And today I had such a wonderful conversation with Sophie Skelton. She's an actress best known for playing Brianna Fraser on the series, Outlander and a role she has portrayed across multiple seasons for one of the most devoted fan bases, which I didn't know until I started watching. And then I got into the YouTube recaps and then I started reading all the comments. And now I want to read the books. So Sophie was born, raised in England, trained in classical ballet from the age of three, which really shaped her career in who she is as a person. She worked nighteous at Clinique to pay for train rides to London to go to auditions. And after just a long and uncertain audition process, including nearly a year of silence before her role,

She booked Outlander and relocated to Scotland shortly after in a moment that obviously changed the course of her whole career. So I asked her all the questions of how she got there, how she became resilient about imposter syndrome. She's now starring in I Can Only Imagine 2, which is a film that I watched last night. It is beautiful. You guys should absolutely watch it in theaters. It's based on a true story that explores success, pressure, faith, failure, unresolved parts of the past that can resurface even when life looks perfect from the outside. We dive all into that. And we just talk about kind of identity, discipline, imposter syndrome, like I said, portraying real people.

What responsibility that comes with? What scenes are the hardest to film if she ever breaks character? It was just a really fun chat. So, Sophie, welcome to Off the Vine. First of all, I'm so jealous that you're in Nashville and I'm stuck in Canada. Not that I don't, I'm Canadian, so I like being stuck here. But I live in Nashville and I'm having some work visa issues. So I'm stuck in Canada, so I'm glad we could do it virtually still. I know because I was excited to me in person. Then they were like, can you just do it in your hotel? I was like, where is she? Next time for sure.

I was so excited to come to the movie premiere, although I did watch it. And first of all, I loved it. I loved every second of it. I cried three times and it was so good. And then second of all, I'm sure you get this all the time. But I didn't realize until I started like Googling and doing all my research that you have a British accent. I was like, but that's a very good compliment because that means you have a very good acting skillet and American accent. I appreciate that. Thank you. I know it's funny. I feel like I get shone from both sides. When I go back to England, they're like, you sound American. And then when I'm in America, they're like, you sound English. So I very much appreciate being welcomed and sort of got the certification tick. So I'm glad. It's always fun when people don't realize. So that's good. That is good. Well, I even feel that when I'm like back and forth from the US and Canada, if I've spent one week in Canada, I come back and all my friends are like, you sound so much more Canadian. And then when I come back to Canada, everyone's like,

You sound American because sometimes I'll drop like a y'all. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the Nashville. I do actually, there's a few kind of Southernisms that I do kind of drop in now, which, you know. Y'all is so, it just feels inclusive. I feel like it's easy. I like saying it. And then after 10 years of being in the South, I feel like I got permission.

Yeah, you're like, I'm one of you now. Yes. I'm one of you. Definitely end after 10 years. I feel like I shot here for three months. And I'm like, I consider myself a Nashville. Yeah, because they shot that movie in Nashville, right? Yeah, yeah, back in the middle of Franklin.

Well, we were kind of all over, to be fair. But yeah, I was here for a good few months. Any Nashville favorites that you had? Did you have time to go for dinner or anything? Not loads. When I'm working, I'm quite boring. But, I mean, I love 12th and South. That might be so touristy of me to say.

But it's just so pretty. And it feels quite English in that it's kind of villagey. It's very cute. I get that. And I love Mexican food. Bar taco, I think, is very cool. So, fun fact. My assistant's fiancé is the GM, the general manager

of bar taco. No way. I love that. Yes. And I use that to my advantage at all times. Oh, I don't blame me. That cocktails are amazing. Yeah, they are. This is the best marguerite I've ever had. Also, I feel like a total like news anchor right now with my paper and my table. Like very cool. I know also like the overall sits. You look really very cool. You look very chic. Highly Cyrus vibes, which I'm, I'm digging it. I really am. That's so, I used to get that all the time. When I worked at the, I worked at a restaurant for years in Vancouver in my 20s. And people used to tell me that all the time that I was, that I reminded them of Miley Cyrus. Yeah.

It's cool. You could tell people your Miley and sign stuff and just like get free things. Really? I like that. I dig her vibes. So thank you for saying that. That's amazing. Also, I find this so interesting because your background, you're, you're so rooted in discipline and

training. I, too, grew up doing ballet. And my mom, her career was she was one of the first members of the Alberta Ballet Company in Canada. and when I saw your Instagram and you did point, I was like, oh my gosh, you love dogs and you do point. And I just am like obsessed with both of those things. Are your feet disgusting too? Oh, disgusting. And then especially because I did Dancing with the Stars as well.

And I feel like my feet had finally healed from ballet shoes. Like they still looked gnarly, but they were like healed. And then the ballroom heels just tore them up right away. Yeah. I'm the same. I feel like you can finally sort of not see Bone anymore. Like they don't look as tallies as they used to. And then I had to do the other day.

And I was in like, Weberton's or something. And they just had me basically jumping, trying to do air shots for like six hours. And I was like, oh, we're back. We're back to bleeding. We're back. Yeah. But I feel like ballet, just doing ballet for a lot of your life, I feel like preps you for so many things physically and emotionally. Like it's so disciplined.

I remember like getting in trouble for having too many bobby pins showing in my bun. And you couldn't have layers. And it was just very strict. a very disciplined, which I think it's really good in a way because it does teach you structure. How long were you doing ballet for? Well, I started when I was two. Whoa. It was a tomboy and my parents weren't having any of that, so they forced me to go to ballet.

I think I cried every time I went and refused to join in. And then after like the six week, when I knew all the choreography, I joined it. And the rest was history. I did tap as well. Yes. All the good different types and musical theater. But yeah, I started ballet when I was two, and then Point from 11. And yeah, it's the same thing.

I mean, it was really hard at the time, as you know, it's quite brutal. And, you know, my ballet teacher was kind of like my second mother, but she was also extremely harsh. But only recently have I actually started to really feel grateful for the things that taught me, because I don't think that I knew where those skills had come from. And then I know that those skills were particularly skills until people were mentioning it on set. So things like even if, even it takes a lot to phase me, if somebody's rude or someone gives you criticism or something, I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, was that, were you being offensive? Because compared to what I grew up with in ballet, that's like really nice.

I don't know. It's just it's such a harsh world that it does take a lot to phase me now. And yeah, like you said, even things like just having to adapt to last minute changes of a script or of choreography or, you know, when you're doing a scene and it's a long scene and you've got marks everywhere for the camera, I find it really natural to remember where I need to be throughout the scene. And that muscle memory is so second nature to me that I don't have to think about it or continuity in a scene. And we actually have a great scriptie on Outlander called Marbara. And she's always like, oh, I don't need to worry about you, Sophie. Because she's kind of like, I'll remember what hand or what line. I took the drink on or whatever.

So, yeah, I didn't even think about that. That's like a little choreography in itself that you don't even think of that. Yeah, it comes second nature to you. Okay, but then I have two follow-up questions. One, if you felt like a tomboy from the age of two, did ballet take you out of that? Or did you just battle through it and be like, I'm going to be. Oh, I battled through it. I then was the only girl in Boy Scouts. I didn't want to go to, you have a bit different here, but we have Brownies and then dides. We don't really have Girl Scouts. That's same as Canada. Yeah, and I have two older brothers and naturally I wanted to do everything they did. So no, my mom couldn't get me to wear a skirt for the life of her. I was like, funny. Puddy, sweatpants, which we call joggers. And then, yeah, you know, I would always just be outside of a tree. And I was the only girl in Boy Scouts. I was like, I'm not doing any of that girly stuff. So no, I'm not doing any of that girly stuff. So no. The ballet did not pull me out of it.

It just sort of, I don't know, it went alongside it. But ballet, that's the other thing, too. I think when you're younger, as you know, ballet is maybe seen a little more girly. But as you get older, there's nothing girly about ballet. It is brutal. Like, it's touch is the best of your body. It's brutal. Yeah, you have to be so strong, so tough and thick skin and so many things to go through the kind of ballet training that you did as well.

Yeah. But then you said something about. about how you cried every day. But then I read somewhere that you, maybe this is wise, because ballet gave you thick skin. Is that why you don't cry anymore? I have tough times showing emotion. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what? I think so that, because then I was on stage for a long time. And yeah, with ballet, like you said, you have to have a poker face. Like, if you have a broken toe, you can't just stop dancing. You've got to dance on it and your face can't give that away. And so, yeah, I think one of the things actually love about TV and

film is kind of just like letting everything out and not having a poker face. It's the complete opposite. So it's quite interesting to have the two things and kind of the shift from one to the other. But if he used to bleed every day and then I'd go to school and I remember the end of day at school, my, I used to put compede on to like rebuild your skin. Yeah. It would put the bone. Like you could see the bone. And then by the end of the day, the compede would have moved because it was bleeding so much. And I used to have to pull my tights out of like my toe where it was like growing into the and it was disgusting. Even having it was painful. I totally understand. I remember bleeding through my point shoes and feeling like that was the right.

thing. I remember being like, I'm not going to cry. I'm going to go through it because that's the only way to toughen up your feet. And then I remember seeing blood on my shoe and I was like, yeah. Like I thought it was cool. I know. It's like the first time I got new point shoes when I was younger and I blooded in them. I was like, oh no, they were so new. And then after that, whenever I got new point shoes, I was like, you see blood in them ASAP or they're not. I love that. So what age did you stop doing ballet? Because I also know that you've talked about loving math and chemistry and once considered a very different profession of going into like becoming a surgeon. So when did you end your ballet career start thinking about surgeon and then go into acting?

So I know. So I think with ballet it was never something that I wanted to do professionally. I mean, by that point, I was doing musical theater and I done a lot of stage acting. But I started doing TV and film classes when I was about 11 and I got an agent. I got scouted on stage actually, but I got a TV and film agent when I was 11. And so I did always want to be a surgeon. And so, yeah, like, I'm actually such a little geek. I love that. And so that was always actually kind of what I wanted to do, but I was just sort of acting at that point anyway.

That was sort of more within my grasp, whereas obviously if you want to be a certain, it's a lot of studying a lot of years down the line. So I kind of just wanted to make sure I had backup skills. So ballet was more just something that, I don't know, quitting wasn't really an option. I mean, I wanted too many times because it was just, I mean, I would have like nightmares about it.

It was just extremely stressful. But it also was the thing I'd been doing since I was like, I used to go every day. And I used to play field hockey a lot. So I just had a lot of things going on. But that was kind of just, I'm better when I'm busy. The busier I am, the more I get stuff done. And so it wasn't really, stopping wasn't really an option.

And then it kind of just organically unfolded. So I got my place to go to what we call university. But by that point, I was kind of financially taking care of some family. And so I'd already been, I'd already had a few acting jobs at that point. So I kind of just deferred my place at uni or college, as you'd say. No, I say university because I'm Canadian. I feel like, yeah, Canadian English. I'm like, you know, yeah, it kind of sits through places.

Yeah, so then I just deferred the place for a year and then just to see how acting was going to go. And then I deferred it second year. And then by the third year, I got Outlanders. So I was like, okay, I guess, I guess this is the career route I'm going down. I feel like you're one of those people that can do it all. Like, you're like, oh, yeah, I did ballet and point. And I saw you on point shoes. You're very good.

And then you're like, and I also did field hockey. But then I was in theater. So you can also sing. And then you got into acting. I'm like, oh, my. gosh, you just even do it all. To hear that because as we're saying, like, ballet is a harsh world and I've never forgotten it.

I think maybe when I was about between 12 and 14, and I idolized my ballet teacher, but she said to me once, she was like, you're a jack of all trades and a master of non, and I never forgot it. Wow. And even this day,

it just makes me feel like the imposter syndrome that I sometimes feel. I'm like, yeah, maybe I'm just not great at anything. So it's very nice to hear that you don't think like. I do the same thing to myself. I actually want to talk to you about imposter syndrome after this because I relate to that very much so. And I remember hearing that you made a deal with your

parents about giving acting a real shot. So tell me this story about the deal that you made with them. So my parents invent like children's toys, kind of board games and stuff. And so they knew what it is to be self-employed and they knew how unrewarding that can be until it isn't. Or just, you know, how it's constantly a battle. And it is. Like, you know, it's scary to work and play because if you do the play and then work does it go while you only have yourself to blame and only you suffer like it can be very scary um so i think they were really trying to push me down the medical route and also i feel like because i was on a bursary for the school i went to which is kind of our version of a scholarship and i think it was very embarrassing at my school to not do an academic route and it really was in me

so i worked in a department store from maybe like 16 to 20 just to take the night shifts to pay to go to my auditions in london and all of that and like i would get parents from the school come in and they'd be like Oh, how's the acting going? Did you not get into uni? No, I did. I'm just trying something else. So to take a non-academic route was super looked down on. And I remember my mom was very embarrassed.

And I would hear her on the next. She's like, oh, she's just giving it a go. But I'm very, like, if someone doubts me or someone says, no, I'm such a stubborn little brat. So then I was like, oh, I'm just trying. Am I? I was like, watch me. That's like my favorite thought is watch me when people doubt me. I like to think the same thing that just lights a fire.

I think that might be a dance thing, too. I think so too, because it gives you this competitive spirit as well, which I think we both definitely have. But it's also like you said, it's betting on yourself when there's no safety net. And I think that takes a lot of courage and more than it takes to like, you know, go after things that you know will be maybe pleasing to the family or is a safer route for money in a career. But when you bet on yourself and you're like, no, watch me. And you take the job. We were working at what, clinic? Yeah, yeah. And doing that and really putting the belief in yourself, even when it's delusional at times, I think is the best way to go.

And as soon as I would wake up and I would think, am I that delusional person? Am I one of those people? But I just made sure that I didn't have, I didn't have a fallback because everyone said I was an idiot. But I was like, no, if I have no plan B, then I have to make it work. And I've just got to just take a leaf of fate, like just bet on myself. Yeah. I was like, I've just got to, I don't have an option. no one's going to get me out of this. Like, no one's going to loan me money or put a refa in my head. Like, I've just got to make it work. But I truly believe that's where magic happens. It's when you do have a little bit of delusion and a lot of drive and a lot of, like, you know, the grit. And again, like, now that you said that at the beginning that you kind of think back of where all this came from, I'm like, that does make a lot of sense because, you know, same thing with athletes.

It's 0.01% of athletes and actors and rock stars make it. but it's the ones that have some sort of discipline and, like, drive and the skill as well. I mean, you're a very talented person, but I'm sure that you've had the moments of doubting yourself, especially when you're, you know, taking the train rides and you're doing the auditions. But what kept you going in uncertain times? It's then and still to this day. I think what keeps me going is I really do love my job. And I feel like it was the right thing to do, especially I actually when we finished Outlander.

I broke my finger a couple of years ago and I made friends with my surgeon in L.A. And she was, I'd seen that she'd done a medical mission in Mozambique with, oh, wow. Kids there and she has a nonprofit. And she's from Hawaii. And so she set up this nonprofit called Ohana Wan. Wow. And I just mentioned to her, I actually was going to, we just in night she's in Scotland for Outlander.

And I had to get a car to London for fitting the next day and then fly to L.A. to present the creative arts at me. And so I didn't have time to see her in L.A., but I was like, I've got to go pick up some jewelry from a stylist. You want to just ride around with me. And so she was kind of just dropping me off doing errands so that we could at least chat in the car and we were like trying on the jewelry, just driving around L.A.

And I said, look, I think it's really cool what you've been doing in Mozambique. And she said, well, we're going to go to Uganda soon. Do you want to come? So I was like, yeah, you know what? Great. So I actually went to Uganda and then we went up and up each week kind of to more remote places

kind of toward the South Sudan border. And we're working in hospitals and no running water and no electricity. And I ended up basically having to scrub in and like look after these kids and there's no one else around and like their vitals are dropping and I'm having to manually monitor it because there's no electricity. Wow. And I'm such an empathetic person and I felt so deeply for each kid and it was this amazing moment of like I could not have been a surgeon because I am so emotionally invested. So I feel like just knowing that this without

sounding cheesy feels like my calling and I love my job. And so I guess what keeps me going again, though is just knowing that like this is what I chose to do and I've just got to make it work and I guess also just seeing people ahead of you where you hear stories in Hollywood like oh I didn't work for 10 years and then I got the job of a lifetime and it's like you know what it's kind of a numbers game too like you've just got to keep keep tapping away and at one point you'll get through so it's just sticking with it I guess and mind over yeah he said like if you can dance through a broken toe this mind ever matter like you know it really is I feel that way even when it comes to imposter syndrome or feeling a little hard on myself. I just, it's one of those like fake it till

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but it could be a thousand reasons why you don't get a job. And 999 of them are not to do with you. It's so true. That is the same kind of in the world where, like, say, I wanted to interview somebody that couldn't do it. I'm like, oh, they don't want to talk to me. They don't. Like, I'll take it personally.

Same thing with if I don't get like some reality show or a hosting gig. Yeah, I mean, I can't relate on your level because it's different, but I understand that feeling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know I have a friend who's a journalist and she says exactly the same as you. It's like, yeah. So you had to wait a year. She wasn't written in. You then hear back.

You realize that you're getting the part. No, so then I hear back and I have essentially my first audition again. Then I didn't hear for three months and I was like, oh my gosh. And then after that, it moved quite quickly. So then I had a, I had a chemistry test in Scotland with Richard, who was already cast. Yes. And then probably didn't hear for maybe a month. And then they message, excuse me, and they're like, okay, you're going to have a final chemistry test with Katrina in L.A.

It was my first time to L.A. And I just remember thinking so much went wrong on that trip. Yeah, it seems chaotic. I want you to tell because I was reading all the things that went wrong where I was. I'd be like, oh gosh, what is my path right now? What happened? For my first time to L.A., I was probably like, I don't know, 19 maybe. And it never rains in L.A. for one, but it was like torrential.

I had no phone service. My Uber crashed. That's crazy. My hair dryer, like, grow up in my face. My air perforated. I lost a piece of like, I always carry like sentimental jewelry or something with me because I like didn't meet my grandparents, but I have little things from them. And I don't know, good luck charms.

Lost it. It was just like so many things. And I was doing my audition with a perforatedirdre. But I just remember thinking, I was like, whose luck is this bad? And I was like I could either let it defeat me or I could just say, you know what? I feel like something good is going to come of this.

And that's why I always think everything balances out in life. And I was like, you throw all the crap at me. If I end up getting the job, then it evens out. Cool. So yeah, I just remember thinking something good has to happen. And then by the time I'd landed in London, I'd gotten the job. That's some good vibrations with energy right there. is going, okay, it's all going to balance out.

I'm trying to think that right now with the work visa issues, and then I didn't have power because of the Nashville ice storm. And then my dog got sick. And then I like fell badly on ice and all the stuff. But I go, okay, I'm still shedding the snake. It's the year of the horse coming up and that big, beautiful horse is going to come charging through. And I'll be like, I get it. Yeah, that snake shed has been quite brutal.

Yeah. I'm sorry. You've been going through a lot. Is your dog okay? I think so. he has heart disease, but he's still like, he acts like the exact same puppy from when he was one to now. But I rescued him from South Korea. And I just think like rescues sometimes can come with some issues anyways. And it's a golden retriever who they get heart disease like more than other dogs.

Yeah. I just, but I'm like, he's just such a special soul that I'm like, he's got to be fine. And I keep telling myself that he's going to, I keep seeing in my brain and in my dreams. that his picture is on People Magazine as the oldest golden retriever that's ever lived. That's not a best out for you. I really like that. I'm trying to get my dog on dog. So between the two of us, we can have our unhinged dog child mantel pieces up there. See, I'm so down for that. But it makes that I feel like you you've got to think positively and you've got to, you know, take the good with the bad. But I'm so glad it all worked out because having that kind of luck on a day of a recall and an important.

roll but it still worked out for you. You also, what's with you losing things? You also lost a ring that was important on set of Outlander? And it's the first time I've done that. Okay. Did you find it? I did. So, yes.

Okay. So actually, do you know what? The piece of jewelry that I was saying that I lost when I went to the audition, I think was potentially a quite similar story. But on Outlander, so cut to before that scenario, maybe like two years before when Richard and I had first started on the show, obviously. with Roger being an historian and Brianna is too, he was going around the highlands and he was like, hey, do you want to come and join me on a road trip and like, we'll go to what these historical places.

I was like, right. Anyway, we're going around this castle and it's on a hill over a cliff. There's torrential rain. And I get back in the car and I was like, oh my gosh, my granddad's wedding ring has fallen off my hand. Anyway, so I get Richard out. He's got like this hat on and we are going around this Edinburgh castle, literally dredging through the mug. trying to look for this ring for two hours, right? We even pull, like, a service station place

who we've been to on the way or, like, is it here? Anyway, I get back in the car and I'm like, oh, I'm so bummed. And I go to, like, I don't know what made me do, but, like, I went to, like, touch my ankle. And I was like, oh, no. And what happened is when I'd gone to the toilet and I'd been tucking my shirt in, the ring had come off, it had fallen all the way down my jeans

and got caught because I had my jeans tucked in my sock. Anyway, so cut a couple of years later on set, similar thing happens. I come out my trailer. Brianna's wedding ring, I'm like, oh, shoot, where is it? And my makeup artist is, my wardrobe woman is like, continuity, where's your ring? And so the whole crew stops and they are searching the fields. Oh, no.

I searched the trailer. I was like, oh, my gosh, where is it? And then literally I was like, hang on a minute. This feels familiar. And I checked my sock. And I was like, sorry, guys, we can roll again. It's. So that was, I'm not one to hold up set, but that was.

I can't even imagine that set. to you playing an American in the 1700s as a British actor. That just all sounds so wild. And I know the fan base is very passionate about the show and the character. And it just must have felt like a big responsibility to portray this character that people already were so attached to from books. Yeah, it was scary. I mean, look, because I also knew the reception of the first film. So I'd kind of seen, you know, comments online. And I knew that not being American, not having the blue eyes and not being six foot friggin' 11, whatever Brianna is, and not having the red hair. I know how it feels when you have an image of something in your head from a book.

And a lot of these women have been reading these books since before I was born. And, you know, to them, Brianna's like their daughter. So for her to look so different, it didn't go down spectacularly well at first. Yes. But actually, one of the producers had pulled me into his office before they did the final press release and the first press release of my casting, which I think it was variety. you had like the initial release on it. And he was like, hey, look, when this gets announced,

there's going to be some, there's going to be some comments. And he was like, just don't pay attention. You are, Bree. We love you. Like, just ignore the noise, basically. And I remember I'd actually been in London for an audition. And my brother used to work near Houston Station, which is like the train station in London.

And I remember calling him. And I was like, hey, sorry, I've been lying to you guys. I haven't actually been. I think I told one of my brothers that was in L.A. No, I told one of my brothers I was with the other brother. and the other one, vice versa. And actually, I was in L.A. auditioning. And then I was in London.

I was like, hey, look, I'm so sorry. I have been lying to you, but can you just come and have a drink with me because the release is going out and I'm scared? So he met we have to work and we went to like one of the oldest, like, champagne bars in London. And actually, we just had a toast and watched all the comments come through. So he was sat on Twitter with me, kind of reading out. Oh, gosh. Twitter's dark too.

I know. But it's quite cute. I got him to sign. My brother signed part of the receipt. and I signed it that night, and I still have that receipt somewhere. Oh, you are a sentimental person. Yeah, I kind of blanketed the bad comments because he was reading him and making them funny. And then I feel like everyone fell in love with you over the years anyways, and they started, you are like you are.

Like you're, I was it a producer that said like you are, Brie? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. With the heavy emotions and emotional scenes, how do you decompress from such heavy weight of situations after acting them? It's so funny because I usually pride myself on being able to leave my job at the door. Yeah. I don't keep my accent on set or things like that. I'm very clear about who's the character and who's me.

So between takes, I speak in my accent. That distinguishing kind of line is very important to me. So usually I'm very good at leaving storylines at the door, but I will say some of the stuff that Brianna went through, and I think because I sat with her for 10 years, it really became a little bit harder to leave behind. And I definitely got to points after Brianna's, rapes, you know, and stuff. Like, yeah. I remember being in a club. I, like, touched,

touched me. And I literally, I was like, I, I don't know, I felt really unsafe and I really had a reaction. And I was so surprised. But, like, I don't know. I think because when you're doing a job for 16 hours a day for a year, like, your muscle memory is also reacting. It's not even just the mental. Like, you're kind of put something into your nervous system. And your brain knows that you have experienced it, but your body doesn't. So there's definitely things where, like, the last season, it's actually been cut now, but Brianna has, she goes into AFIB, which basically presents like a panic attack. And I've never had panic attacks in my life before, but I did that scene. And since then, I've had three panic attacks. You're kidding. Yeah, and it's so

interesting because mentally, it's not like I'm feeling that's happened. I mean, obviously, it's just in your body. Like, yeah, it's so interesting. It's like your nervous system has experienced something and so it's the muscle memory is there and it's super interesting so how do you help that like how how do you decompress out of that or or separate it after or can you can you? I actually end up going into therapy for it and I was like do when I feel this happening like how do I ground myself back in my own body and like this might sound really corny but there's just like this little thing you put your hands on your chest and you just beat them simply or you have to name things in a room like find five things that are yellow just to kind of put your body in mind back in sync because it's

Yeah, it is. Sometimes your body just has a reaction. Your mind is like, what is happening. But it's just interesting what sits in your nervous system that you're not aware of. The therapy thing I was going to say, I'm sure that that's what you did to help with that. Because, yeah, I can't imagine having that all trapped in your body and not finding a way out. So same thing with like, I mean, our bodies are so wild and what our brain can do to like even convince ourselves of things. Like I'm even thinking about the imposter syndrome and the voices that are in our heads. and the success that you had over this show and the inner voice doesn't always catch up. So how do you separate, like, being humble, grounded and humility from self-doubt?

I feel like being English and being a woman, I naturally have this, like, culture and tendency to kind of self-depreciate. Most jokes I make are at my own expense. Yes. And actually only recently, actually, one of the reasons actually, and this sounds. very severe, but one of the reasons I moved to New York was because my American friends is so much better at just being themselves and not apologizing for their space. And I was like, I think I think I need to use sorry less and just not apologize as much, but I was really struggling to shake that. And when I would say things, I'd never really thought about it,

but my American friends are like, dude, stop saying shit about yourself. Yeah. Wow, actually, yeah, I am. Like, I think it's just me. Sometimes this is going to sound like, sometimes in our industry, I feel like people put you on a different kind of, like, not necessarily a pedestal, but they kind of treat you differently. And I've always been a super grounded person. Like I'm not, you know, enamored by what I do. Like I wanted to be a surgeon like this, doing this didn't feel like, no, I never started acting because I wanted to be a famous of be a star. Like I really love what I do. And it's sometimes really hard because people do treat you differently. And so I got into this habit of putting myself down to make other people feel better.

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I remember wanting to ask this earlier because everyone was like expecting the character to be sick something. How tall are you in real life? This alter is depending on the job. I'm not going to lie to you. Usually I'll look up. what the co-star height is, especially if it's like a male co-star. And I'm like, oh, he's 5-8, so I should probably say I'm 5-5. But I'm not. I'm hilarious. 5-7 and a bit.

Oh, okay, great. Anyone under 5-8 for Brianna. So I was very sneaky and I'm not advocating for this. But I changed my height on IMDB and on Spotlight, which is like the British casting because I was like, I love it. So then I just won't like kind of healed boots. And I was like, yes, I'm 5.8. I actually love that because you are, that you just want the job.

and you're going to do what it takes to get the job. I like that. Okay, so let's talk about why you're in Nashville, your new movie. I can only imagine two. I watched it last night. I had a poured a glass of wine. I had sushi. I'm not going for it because it's bad.

It's, I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know where the story, because I know it's based on a true story, but I didn't know the story. And so I liked watching it through that lens of like, I don't know what's going to happen, but oh my gosh, I was rocked a few times. Yeah. Could you just break down the storyline for the movie before we get into it? Yeah, of course.

So I Can Only Imagine 2 is the sequel to the I Can Only Imagine movie, which is about a essentially country music band, a Christian band who wrote a song that became a Grammy award-winning song. And since then, they have written many other ones. And this is about their second big hit. But it's also about the sort of background story around how that song came about. And my character Shannon plays the wife at the lead singer of the band. And our story is all about how, you know, how we deal with grief differently.

And he is going through depression. But it was in a time period where men didn't really ask for help. And so it's kind of about me trying to keep the family together and bring him out of a, of a hold that he's sort of not willing to bring himself out of and how to navigate that alongside trying to chase, not chase your own fame, but relive up to your own name. I think if you write a hit song, there must be such pressure to then do it again. And I think that that's kind of the main thread of the film. So, yeah.

I was thinking about that with just things in general of like getting the lead role of something or like this gig that you've always dreamt of. For me, it was like winning the mirror ball and dance it with starts. You think you're going to get that thing and then you're going to feel satisfied and you're going to be like, okay, I did it. And then you can relax. But then you want what's next, what's next? Yeah.

And that's always a challenging place to be in. And you're playing a character that is a real. woman because it is based on a true story. But what did you feel was most important to honor about your character, Shannon? That's such a lovely question. I actually had this conversation with Shannon because I can't imagine what it would feel like to hand your image and life over to a street. Just be like, hi, please don't make me look like a dummy or whatever. I actually sat down with her and I said, hey, look, and one of the things that I was most conscious of, and even though I'm the youngest of three and I have two older brothers.

I am extremely protective over them. I don't know if it's a like sex male or female thing or whether it's just me, but I feel like the older sibling to them. And you get very protective over them. And Shannon, the original script in the film, actually, we ended up having to cut this storyline.

But what makes it more unbelievable, even though it's all true, is the same week around them that Sam got diagnosed with diabetes. Shannon's brother, Christopher died, her younger brother, in a car accident, leaving their house, he fell asleep at the wheel and died.

And he was, I think, 18 at the time. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, maybe 20. And so I said to Shannon, I was like, look, what can I do to help you protect his memory and make sure that, you know, nothing comes across wrong. Because especially with him falling asleep at the wheel, I think the worry was that it comes across that he was maybe drink driving. Right.

Shannon said, even her parents for years thought that he was drink driving, but they didn't know that his toxology report was negative and he was just tired. And so there were things like that where I just wanted to honor, you know, the memory of somebody who can't argue for himself. And also with Shannon just to really respect how she wanted to be portrayed. But she was so generous and she's such a wonderful woman. And she kind of said, look, like, I trust you. Don't worry. Just kind of do your thing with it.

And that was such a gift from her. But yeah, I think just to make sure that we weren't, you know, and this story doesn't need Hollywoodizing. It's so rich anyway. But I just wanted to make sure that, you know, that their stories were safe. with us. And yeah. What really stuck with you about Shannon when you spent the time with her? She's one of those people who like doesn't have to say a lot, but in not saying a lot, you feel like you know her. She's so warm. She's like such joy personified. Like just being around her is just so homie but joyful. I don't know. She's just great. And I think just being around her family as well,

like seeing what they've built, I think if you just saw that family without any context, you think their life had been easy breezy and you think they happen. And actually reading this story, I was like, you guys have been through it. And the way that she handles things with such grace, when she's struggling on her own, I mean, she lost her brother, her son got diagnosed her diabetes, and a million other things that happened that week. And she holds her own whilst kind of crumbling inside with such grace. And I just, I'm really in awe of how she handles things. She's just very cool.

The film also explores success, pressure, family, grief, all these things. What do you hope people take away from this movie? Yeah, I think like you said, there's a few different topics. So I guess the takeaway will probably be hopefully like what each person needs from it, the takeaway. But I do hope that even just, you know, looking from my character's side, taking the music and everything out of it, I think just seeing the trickle effects of when you're troubling, even if you don't feel like you can ask for help or you're too proud to ask for help, just seeing the kind of the knock on effect to the people around you. Like, if you don't want to ask the help for you, please do it for the people around you.

Because, you know, there was times in Shannon and Bart can talk about this quite openly, but there was times where she was like, it would have been easier for him to not be in the house. She was like, when he was in his depressive hole, she was like, I already have five kids. And she's like, him being there was harder for me than not being there. And so hopefully just people like, I don't know, like the world's so dark right now. hopefully people just walk away feeling a little uplifted after your tears because you will cry. Yes. But also just really appreciate the simple things in life.

I honestly just having good people around you is so much. And I think often life's so busy that we take that for granted. And so just appreciating your people and also knowing that you can come out of the depths of darkness, like the fact that they then went on to write another hit just by all the odds. I'm like, see, you can just can do it. Keep going. I won't spoil it because there's other moments of defeat. beating odds. But I just, like, through the whole thing, it was just such ups and downs. And then,

again, I won't spoil it, but knowing that it was a true story. And then I love when true stories at the end do like, where are they now or what's happening now? That was, I was just like, it all just came together so beautifully and everything. It was just, it was so cool to read the, those parts of where they are now. I know. It's always so much in I see, especially when they're all okay. You're like, oh, good. Yeah. It's, it was just like a little nice bow wrapped up for everything. But yeah, I really enjoyed it. And I haven't watched a good movie in a long time. And when I watched it, I was like, I usually fall asleep in every movie. I did not fall asleep. I felt feelings and I did feel uplifted and I did feel like validated in different ways of

handling things. Because like we just said that it explores so many different avenues that, yeah, everybody will take away something from the film. Yeah. And no one's perfect in it. And again, the fact that they're people, I think, is always such a hitter. But yeah, like the first film, I haven't watched a film that good in a long time, and I love the way it's and that's why I really wanted to be a part of this, because it's just good filmmaking. Yes. I just, that is, I would say, quite rare now, and it's just like, no bells and whistles. It's just really good.

Well, and the talent, like, even the way that they're singing and the voices and the playing instruments, like everything was just really, really well done. So I'm very, very excited for people to watch it. I'm excited for you to have your premiere. Is that tonight? Thanks. Yeah, I know I wish we were here. I wish I was to.

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So maybe a light moment, a cringe moment, something embarrassing that you would like to share with everybody that maybe people wouldn't know. I think usually probably, it's like moments on set where especially in Outlander, we're kind of in the middle of the Highlands. And I'm just kind of like doing a little Taylor's Swift dance. I'm like just singing Tay and then I kind of look around and it's like 200 crew members looking at me. Yep. But I will say, joke was on them at the end because after nine years, I made a Tay fan.

I made a Swifty out of every single member. And like when it first show, the boys were like, um, Taylor Swift. And then we all went to the Taylor concert and they were literally wearing eyeliner and dressed up with Taylor outfits. And I was like, my work here is done. That's amazing. Have you ever met Taylor? No, we were supposed to. She had a cold. Oh, oh.

Because I think she might be an out on the phone. I don't know. But she invited us to her VIP tent in Edinburgh, and she was going to come and see us after what she could. Oh, that's sweet. She had a cold, so she didn't want to spread it. Oh, she would. I asked my listeners to write in some questions, and somebody actually said, ask her about Tay. And I was like, okay. So when Taylor Swift got engaged, there was one fan, there were a few fans, but there was one fan who literally put in a story. She was like, has anyone checked in on how Sophie Skelton's doing with the news of the engagement? And it was just very sweet because I think they all know I'm a big, a big TAY person.

So, yeah, I mean, I've just, I've been a fan since I was a teenager. She kind of got me through some hard times in school. And yeah, I was at her first concert in 2009. So I'm just, you know, loyal to it. You're a true, a true Swifty. I became one. You make people one, but you've always been one. I indoctrinate people and you have your people.

Yeah. I love that. Somebody else had a question about your, what was your favorite time period on Outlander? This is going to make me sound like such a deeper, but wearing the corsets was not very fun. I bet. And so I was so excited to get to the 70s, 80s, and then the wall was so scratchy. And I was like, oh, what is going on? But my time period is probably, I actually really likes the stuff in the 1970s.

Just cool. The music's cool. Rihanna gets to just wear a barber jacket and she's running around with a shotgun. I'm like, that's pretty badass. I'm now into El Lander because when I knew you were all coming on the podcast, I started watching YouTube like recaps of the first few seasons. And then I went, well, now I'm like fully invested in it. And so, and it's coming up on season eight. It's going to air in March as well, right?

Yeah, March 6, I believe it comes out and that's our final one. Yeah, everybody wants to know if they're going to be satisfied with the ending. Do you know what? I'm so sorry to disappoint, but I'm, I actually don't know the ending. What? We actually shot a few different endings, and I think they've decided, and I think they've just not really told us. So I actually could spoil it if I wanted to.

Wow. Okay, that's wild. So you find out when everybody else finds out, or when do you find out? I guess so. Oh, my gosh. I watch you binge every episode and then watch the ending with you. Yeah, I think so do that. We'll have to whine and watch the ending.

Yes. Oh, I didn't know that was happening. I love that. And then just one, two, three, four, five, six rapid questions and then I'm done with you. I don't want to be done with you, but I respect your time. Okay, British tea or American coffee. Oh man, that's a really hard one because I love coffee, but I really miss having tea, British tea. You guys don't make you bags. It's really sad. What is our problem? Because I went to high tea when I was in London and I was like, does it just take? It's like having a Guinness in Ireland. Like, it just tastes different.

Yeah, it's like, if anything, it's kind of the saying, it's like, whatever the conundrum, put the kettle on, and it solves it. Like, if someone put the kettle on. If you're having a celebrate a day, put the kettle on. And it just, like, it just kind of grounds you. And yeah. Okay, time travel, would you rather go to the past or the future? Ooh, do you know what?

I would love to be, and especially with having just moved to New York, I think I would love to be in New York in Prohibition era, speaking, or the 20s, like, I'm going back. I always say that too, but I'm like, but I don't want to be treated like the women were treated in that time, but I want to like live the life of that time. Yeah, I don't know. That's true. That is true. The technology and I cannot get along. So I think I would be really not great in the future. I agree with that. I would fully take the past over the future. Okay, accent you struggle with the most and can you demonstrate? Do you know what's so funny? I actually think I struggle with my northern normal accent now because I'm actually from the north of England. And when I started auditioning, that was like not cool to be because England's quite classist and like that was not trendy nowadays. But so now if I get a tape where I have to do Northern accent, I've like forgotten how my voice sounds. So no, Northern's like kind of a bit like that, like a bit, I don't know. John Snow, I guess.

Wait, that's really good. That's really good though. I can't do accents to say. I can do like maybe a Southern and like somewhat British, but I'm not really. Well, especially now you're in Nash. What is the role that scared you the most? Probably Brianna. I think because of the books, it was.

scary thing to take on. Like, it was big shoes to fill. That makes sense. Okay, a scene that a partner that you're with makes you break character. Who's somebody that makes you break character? Oh, my God. Sam and Richard, when they get the giggles, there was a scene that we just finished our press for in October two years ago.

And then we had to go back straight to do reshoots. We were in New York, but to go straight back to Scotland. So we were all so jet lag, so delirious. And we had to do this scene where one of the characters is called Fannie. Now, Fanny in England means something very different than what it means in America. Some reason, Paul Katrina had to say this line and Sam and Richard could not hold it to to the point where it was her close up, they had to kick those two off set, and I just had to play their eyelines to her so that we could get through a scene.

So, the boys. What was the line? She just had to say something about Fanny, but it was just funny. Because obviously the Americans were like, I don't really get the problem. when we were like. Yeah, yeah, that is hilarious. I love, I love any blooper situation, but I always think about that in like, like the movie scream. What if somebody like burps in the middle and you're in like this intense? I always think that would be so funny, but obviously you guys are also professionals, but there has to be moments of the giggles. Yeah, there's

definitely, I mean, and honestly with us, law, especially because we are kind of a bit family now. When one of us gets down and goes down with giggles, everyone is out. Oh, just hearing someone giggle takes me out. It's something about people. tripping as long as they're okay and giggling. Like, I just think it's so funny. I always trip over my own feet. And in the studio, we have like smoke machines going and candles burning. So there's no fresh air. So by the end of the day, oh gosh. It's so lightheaded and delirious that if someone starts giggling, like we all go home. It's bad news. I love that though. Last one is what would 16 year old Sophie say to your life now? Chill the F out. Just like stop stressing and just kind of, yeah,

put your blinkers on, run your own race, stop hating on yourself and comparing yourself and just do your thing. Yeah. Pequeness is sometimes what's going to get you to things. Stop trying to like morph yourself into what you think is better. All right. I just really appreciate how thoughtful and grounded you are. And I, not just about your work, but like just the responsibility that comes with it and just how you carry yourself and even this interview.

I feel like you're very genuine and I really enjoyed talking to you. Thank you. Me too. Honestly, it's been really lovely. Thanks. And thank you. All of your questions are really, really cool questions, which doesn't happen often. Thank you.

Oh, thank you for saying that. And good luck with the movie premiere tonight. And just, I can't wait for everybody to watch. I can only imagine it's in theaters now. And it's just a story that really stays with you. So thank you so much for taking the time today. And, yeah, have fun tonight. At Pluto TV, we're celebrating Black History Month with our free curated collection of Black Entertainment.

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