Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Spencer Pratt & Heidi Montag

Episode Date: June 12, 2017

"The Hills'" infamous couple and parents-to-be Spencer Pratt & Heidi Montag join Kaitlyn in the studio to talk about their first child and the secret to their insane tabloid romance. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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The following program is a podcast.1.com presentation. Okay, are you ready to shake things up? Yes, I am. Well, Caitlin Bristow is creating a space where girls and gents can feel empowered to be themselves. because there's more to like than Instagram, right? What's that supposed to mean? Welcome to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Now here's Caitlin.

Oh my gosh, I don't even want to do my intro. I just want to get to my guests, but I'm going to have to do so fine, I'll do it. Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow, and that's enough about me. We have the OGs. Oh, Heidi, you're so sweet. I already clapping for me. I asked everybody in the room to clap for me, and you're the only one that did.

We have the OGs of reality. TV in the house, Spencer and Heidi Pratt. Yeah, now we can clap. Blas for them. Hashtag Spidey. Oh, my gosh. Do you guys love that nickname or hate it? Love it. Oh, me too. It's so good.

I'm like, why don't we have one? Like, Shun Aitland. Yeah, we need to think ears. Oh, Rukon. Somebody's phone on. That was a nice. It was a nice. It was pleasant. You could be Kahn. Kahn? Oh, Caitlin and Chon.

See, it just doesn't work. Spidey is just gold. And you're just glowing because you've got a bun in the oven and you look beautiful and that's just great news. Like, you guys have been together for 10 years? Yep. Ten years. Have you always wanted kids? Yeah, I always wanted kids.

I went through a short phase where I thought, like, it was the end of the world, the apocalypse. And I was like, maybe if the world's ending, we shouldn't have kids. But in my heart, I've always wanted kids. Were you watching The Walking Dad at the time? Thank God, no. I had books I was reading. Okay, books. and do you guys feel like

Just wait Name a more iconic couple Like I'll wait Well a lot of them don't exist anymore Brangelinea Gone Tomcat Gone

Spidey still going strong We've outlasted them all Yeah And you're still going start You got a baby on the way That means it's not ending anytime soon Do you guys feel like Kind of responsible for the Kardashians

And like Snooki I wish we could take credit for them But you kind of can I would love to I'm not sure Chris Jenner would agree with that And she's a bachelor fan I hope she doesn't hear what I'm saying right now But I just feel like you guys were like

You guys know I didn't watch the hills But I knew exactly who you were You're on every magazine You're everywhere, big deals And I just feel like No one doesn't know who you are It definitely was a different time You know, I think that we open a lot of gates that other people might not have at the time.

But Spencer knew Kim Kardashian since, I mean, really young because of Brody, and that's obviously a step-sister. And then she was going to be on Princes of Malibu or wanted to be or was there? What was the exact story? I love your version. This is a great story. And Chris wanted Kim to be managed by Spencer at a point in time. But, hey, I was the only female client. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Well, pump the brakes. Pump the brakes, Chris. Now we're the only booty selling over here is mine. Thank you at this point. And, yeah, but there's definitely connections there that you've known for a long time. Wait, that's crazy. She wanted you to manage Kim? Allegedly.

Oh. Not alleged. I was there. Yeah. I want to hear it straight from the source, which I just did. No, no, no. It was just when Brody and I were doing the Princess of Malibu, Chris was like, you need to do this on my family in the valley.

And I was like, why would I? I do that. Do you still talk to them? No, no, no. I wish. I wish. I'm just a fan now. Yeah.

Now they're just running the world, so they're too busy running the world. Right. But Kim's so nice. I've met her, too. I've really like Kim. Yeah, I've heard that she's super sweet. Yeah, do you hear, like, crazy rumors about yourself, obviously, and that, like, you're mean or something, or do you always hear that you're just an angel?

I don't know. I think a lot of people think I'm very different than I am, like, that I have, like, an attitude or something. But maybe not. Maybe I'm making that. Maybe I'm projecting. Well, I'm sure. I'm trying to think of, like, could you imagine if you guys had, like, the social media back then?

I'm actually very thankful we did. Yeah. No, that's what I'm saying. I think I would have gotten in a lot of trouble. And I totally believe you. I've gotten myself in, like, little bits of trouble from it, like, when I spoiled the whole secret of The Bachelor on my Snapchat. I don't know if you heard of myself. Well, they probably should have let you do dancing with stars.

Don't get me started. Don't get me started. You know what? I'll bet you right now, Rachel does it. Who's Rachel? She's the current. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm not watching this season.

You're not? I watch. Yeah, okay. Well, that's okay. That's okay. We can talk Bachelorette in a bit. Okay. But if you...

Oh, wait, I am watching. It's on. Oh, yeah, just kidding. No, I mean, it's on. I'm there. I'm just not invested. Okay, that makes sense. I didn't like the whole

boom dude and all this, blah, blah, blah, blah. I loved the. The Woboom dude. Wow. I know. I hope that doesn't change your opinion. No, no. I just felt like you, I'm fine if you go to, you know, make a show.

Yeah. Don't be that obvious that you do not care about Rachel. Like, I want to. That's true. You know, I'm here to watch love stories. That's fair. That's fair. This isn't America's got talent.

Go do the Waboom thing on that show. Or like build up to the Waboo. Yeah. At your proposal. Yeah. You know, if you're bringing the ring out, that's when we, but. But that would be terrifying because then she'd be like, I've made a huge mistake. I think he knew he'd get eliminated quickly.

So he's like, I got to do my schick. Yeah. Yeah, he came out guns blazing. I think that's why they cast him. Yeah, I guess you're right. You're right. You're always right, isn't she? Oh, I've learned that rule.

Yeah, exactly. You've been together long enough to know that role. So I Snapchated Spencer and I said, should I binge watch the hills before I go? And you said to binge watch Bloodline instead. I mean, if you're going to binge watch something. Why can't I binge watch the Hills? I just feel like you have your number one on iTunes store. You should be doing things more productive with your stardom.

This is what I hate, like, I hate when people ask typical questions. Like, I'm sure you've got so many, like, the typical, like, so I'm so clueless to the show. So don't mind me if I go there. but like if you could describe that show in like a couple sentences to me what would you say a miracle oh oh because you met hiding

is that how you met yeah well off camera technically but within the environment because we met through Kristen Cavalry Brody Jenner in the summer in between filming seasons and was it like right off the bat you two were like we're in love I knew I wanted to marry

or like the night I met him. Really? Yeah, I was like, oh my gosh, I love him so much. And he was like, oh, lady, he's kind of a stalker. And then I changed my phone number. And then I was like, oh, you want to outplay me? I don't think so. Oh, great game.

When changing your phone number, like, meant going into a phone store, not like doing it online. So you were committed to changing your phone number. I was like, done. That's so funny. Yeah. And then I saw him again in the fall and I just melted. And I was like, oh, whatever. You didn't melt.

You're all mad because she was pretending to be mad. Yeah, they'd melt. I didn't look at a mad melt. Melting. In the angriest way possible, melting. Oh, that's cute. And then did you guys date anyone else from there on out? Oh, Heidi did.

Oh, hey, hey, hey, we both were. You had playmates. Oh, dear. Playmates. Heidi had playmates. Yeah, he had the most playmates you've ever seen. Literally lined up on either side of his arm. Yeah, for real.

And was that like, that was kind of like Taylor Swift and her, like, entourage? Was that like your thing? My squad? Your squad? I mean, I guess. Yeah, they all loved him. Well, yeah. I was like, you're on, my dance moves.

But ladies. I'll drop it. I was dropping him for anyone who was dropping it. I was looked out all crazy in the clubs. You definitely were twerking before at least Miley. Oh, my God, wait. She was probably in diapers. Yes, you should take credit for the twerk move

I was all in the club I was like the advertisement for twerking in the club I wish I could have been friends with you guys back then Because my 20s were like if that was on TV My parents would have disowned me and like my life And I was like a nut job Like nuts I always tell Sean I was like I was a degenerate

I was nuts And I don't even tell these stories because it's like too bad But if I That's what I always think like if there were cameras is following me in my 20s. Oh, my gosh. Even The Bachelorette, like, thank God I wasn't on that one. I was like 25 or younger.

It was like in a good time where I'm like, okay, I'm going to do this right. I'm going to play this right. I know what I'm doing. I'm branding myself right now, okay? I am branding myself. And it's also a different type of show. It was a show where it was really Lauren's show. You know, so it was narrated by one person.

So you could never have like testimonials or your perspective. So really this show was completely edited around her perspective. So it wasn't like a fair show like now. So that's why people were like not completely team spidey maybe. That makes so much sense. Yeah. So did, was she like a producer as well or did you guys have like, basically? Might as well.

She basically ran the show. It was her show. It was her show. And she was like, I'm going to take them down or what? Yeah. Well, she didn't want us on the show anymore. Oh. So she was trying to.

Which is understandable. Right. It was her show. And I was, in real life, her. and I were best friends. Oh. What do you mean real life? Was the show not real life?

Well, it just started getting a little... Produced? Right. Right. heavily. So, her and I would... Yeah, we were really good friends. And then she just didn't want me to keep dating Spencer

because she wanted me to be single and this and that. Because you are the best wing woman ever to exist. Ever. I believe that. Oh, my gosh. And I'm a very protective friend. So I was also like a bodyguard that wasn't qualified. Yeah.

You know, like someone threw a drink on her once. I ran down the whole club. Oh, that's a my best friend. I was very, I'm a very serious friend, wife, whatever I do. I like to be the best set. I think that's super sweet. And I think that shows a lot, like, why you guys have lasted. And I think it's hard to, well, Spencer's not bad.

But I feel like in the, I wanted to ask you guys because, I mean, being from the reality TV world, like, we find it really hard to make things work. And how did you guys go from, like, craziest, biggest show? And then you did other reality shows, like you did marriage boot camp, I feel like that was a hard one. Way easier than Big Brother. Really? Oh, my God, yes. Okay, I am such a Big Brother fan too. Oh, my gosh.

Really? People that do Big Brother, I look at, like, they're just, I think. Heroes. Yeah, because we only did like 25 days. The civilians that do two months or they're aliens. Really? Oh, it's. Yeah, it's really intense.

It's way more intense than you could imagine, like, being in there. That's so crazy. And I always thought Big Brother would be, like, fun, which people think being the Bachelorette is fun. It's hell. It's fun, but it's hell. But to me, like, the Big Brother would be like, well, you're kind of like on your own schedule and you get to sleep all the time. Do you hate people who say that? No, you're like, not sleep at all.

There's no sleeping. They'll put alarms off if you then close your eyes in the days and sirens. What? They don't air that stuff. But maybe they do. I don't know. I don't know. Well, marriage boot camp, I just know a couple of people who have been on it.

And they said, like, the editing and producing was worse than The Bachelor and the Bachelorette. Sounds like you're talking to some cry babies. Yeah, ours were great. I was like, this is the best we ever looked. That's funny. People who want to be, like, glorified. You know, it's like, gosh, it's reality. You're getting dirty.

You're putting your stuff out there. Like, you're either doing the show or you're not. And everybody watching is like, I have the same problem. but maybe worse but then judging you for it yeah it's so weird and then it's like great and marriage boot camp had the best food like I'm talking oh my gosh like chef and you get your own bedroom and bathroom what a luxury are you kidding me you get to go outside oh you get to go outside yeah they really let you be free over there let you look at your phones an hour a day they do really yeah yeah oh man if you get it option so that was the heart of

Sean B, marriage boot camp. Yeah, I'm like, wait, they offered it to us. You'll have the boot camp, baby. Oh. Okay, okay, you've changed my opinion. What? You're going to say that. But we also had Jim and Elizabeth, so there's different, so I don't know how the people are now, but I really like Jim and Elizabeth.

They did a great job. I feel like from my, from being on The Bachelor and the Bachelor of, the Hardest part for me was not having a phone because all I wanted to do was, like, message my family or friends and have some sort of like, like, something. that grounded me and I did not have that and I just kept getting crazier and crazier each week I'm like going nuts by the end where I'm like you can't catch me smiling anymore like I'm just crying through everything yeah that's how that was because I feel like I didn't have a phone or anyone to talk to you did a great job well thank you yeah you did and that's really I was fishing no you did yeah you were the best ever honestly and I think that's what's so cool now about your snapchat and Instagram and everything is you really see the essence of who you

are like yeah that story was based off of love and stuff but you're like so funny and you have so many other different cool qualities that people can see through your social media. Go on. So I think that's really great also. You get like a reinvented image. And that's what's also fun is you don't want everything out there your first round

because then people don't continue to get to get to know you in an intimate way. That's so true. I feel like the people got to see the real us after the show. Like we got to really through Snapchat and like, come on Spencer's Snapchat. It's not even on Rick's level.

Well, you know what? I asked my best friend who she would prefer to watch on Snapchat. You or bless you. Thank you. You or, oh, God bless you, bless you. On all the blessings. So many blessings towards you right now. Oh, you're Snapchat.

Yeah, I asked my girlfriend if she would rather watch Rick or Spencer. And she had to think about it. Like, she really hesitated, and I understood, but she said Rick. I agree. But she did call you the king of Snapchat. I'll take, thank you, BFF. But Rick's got CGI, though, so. What's CGI?

Should I know what that is? I mean, Rick's got extra technology behind him. Is this? Kind of cheating. Is this embarrassing? Was Rick? You know, I just don't think you would put it together. My heart.

You built me up. You just built me up and you brought me right down. When they face swapped. Oh, my gosh. That's right. Okay, I'm sorry. That's okay. I'm sorry.

I understand. You were built. I thought it was a separate... No, no, I thought it was a whole separate Snapchat. Channel. Channel, yeah. I thought it was like a person. It's just...

Rick is... He's so gross, I always say, but, like, it makes him so funny. It is funny. It's his voice that's my favorite. Yes. It's so funny, because on the last podcast, I talked about that voice and how I got it. And it was because I used to watch Anchorman and Dodgeball, and I, like, morphed the Ron Burgundy and why.

White Goodman into one. And then it became my drunk voice where when I was drinking too much, I had to start talking like this. And then it just became my Rick voice because when we started doing face swap, I had a few cocktails. So I'm like, oh, there it is. Rick. That's his voice.

La-la. Keep it. And he always makes an appearance in my podcast no matter what. But it's because, like, how can you not talk about Rick? Sorry. You just, well, now you know. It's okay. I kind of love that you didn't know.

Hey, I didn't watch the hills. You don't know who Rick is. But I do watch your snapshots when I have time. Well, you're probably busy. It's walking the dog. She doesn't even watch my Snapchat. So let's just. Well, because she's there for them.

Yeah, but sometimes I don't. You're like, yeah, but that doesn't count for a view. I do a lot during the day. I try to just Snapchat to keep it going. But really, it's like, I have so many dishes and laundry and this and that. It's like, oh, not since you're pregnant. I've stepped in major. What's that?

What's in the silence? What's in the silence? Is this a joke This is Rick? Good one This is Rick Good one Spencer No you do

I always see you doing Like such wifey stuff And I'm like I want to marry her I do I'm like I totally get why people need a wife Like you're so good That's so funny And you're really good at like Snapchat

Yeah Snapping my life But you But I feel like Because Kelly Oxford Is the one that got me on your snaps And I'm like okay I'll try it out and within like two minutes I'm like hooked because the production value

and you put like songs behind it and you inspired me as a snapchatter to really like invest my time and like giving the people what they want and your hummingbirds and everything that you do with Snapchat I'm just like good for you and we got you closer to birds you that was a big that was a big night that was a huge night you know what I have had the craziest fear since I was little the craziest and it's because my mom was so scared of birds and my grandma had one and my uncle used to let it out to bug my mom and my mom would grab me and my sister and run into the bathroom and lock us in there and shake and like scream. Duh, I'm going to be afraid of birds. Oh my gosh. I'm glad you're not afraid of your mom. Yeah, I kind of am.

Honestly, and then so obviously I'm going to be afraid of birds and then everyone's like, Why do you have birds tattooed on your arms if you were scared of birds? I'm like, well, A, I can't see them. And B, I was drunk. Okay, three things. A, I can see them. B, I was drunk. And C, I'm like, it's not that, like, I love the image of birds and what they are.

But I just, the flapping terrifies me because that came from my mom. So the hummingbird thing, I'm like, this is so great. The hummingbird. I'm like, I want to be close to hummingbirds. And so one night I was out at my parents' place And the hummingbird comes along And I'm like, here we go, this is my chance Spencer has inspired me

I'm going to get over my fears And I did And I'll do it again But only with hummingbirds I'm too scared like pigeons I'm not a big bird bird person Would you ever hold bread in the air For a pigeon to come at you?

No, no My sister would cry She is a pigeon phobia Who likes pigeons? My favorite one is your mom was like That's not a bird And you're like It's called a hummingbird

Literally in the word is bird So funny We're going to take a quick break But we will be back with Spencer and Heidi In just a moment Little Women is back And this season delve into the ashes To see which friendships have emerged unscathed

And which ones are still smoldering For your favorite L.A. women Tara, Tanya, Christy, Brianna, Jasmine, Elena With so many changes happening for the women Their lives and relationships are becoming more complicated. The girls are focused on their growing families

while still forging career paths and making time for themselves and their friendships. And it's quite clear that some of the ladies are doing a better job than others, which starts to divide the group. As if the issues between these friends aren't enough, each girl has our own battles to fight, between health, marriage, motherhood, family troubles,

and their individual careers. Just maybe the flames from the past aren't out yet. Can the women come together and extinguish the fire before they all get burned again? Tune into new episodes of Little Women, L.A., Wednesdays at 9, 8th Central on Lifetime, and check out previews and peaks at My Lifetime.com. Now back to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Okay, I want to play a game.

It's a word association game. I got it right out of Ellen Tube yesterday. I stole their material, and I'm bringing it to you. Now you're a great producer. I fit in, don't I? Okay, so I don't know if we should take turns, or if you guys both just want to say what comes to you? your mind but I mean it has everything to do with your guys Snapchat so okay here we go ready

first thing that comes to your mind crystals life but I thought you were going to bring me some I was getting the skin biopsy this morning this was I had to get a stitch you know a stitch just one stitch I was one I was one stitch how are you feeling I'm a little light headed do you need some juice I asked for some glue free food and some dairy-free something and your staff is just I should have been on that before you guys got here I should have had your green juice I should have had I'm sorry I'm still learning I'm still learning how to podcast I thought I sent you a crystal kit no please do oh I apologize I thought I whoa no I'll just be quiet I've just been sitting here waiting for this life-changing

stuff I thought that's why you got on number one on Apple store I was like, oh, my kit. Yeah. Okay. We could do some sort of like promo deal on here, you know? Maybe I'll be your wine sponsor, but without wine. What is your website? Spencer, what?

Spencer brad dot rocks. Oh my gosh, and it's so much better when you say it like this. It's so calming. Okay, next word, the hummingbirds. Life. Oh. Alan. Yeah.

Is it A-L-A-N or A-L-L-E-N? E-N. And why Allen? By the way, this. This is the name of Spencer's hummingbird, and you guys, like, birthed this bird into your life, and you were so attached. I have a question. Were you seriously crying when you guys had to give it away? Yeah.

You are the sweetest. I was really upset because, obviously, it was just found out I'm pregnant, too. But this bird, the first one was eaten by the rat, which was really upsetting, and I was really upset. And I was trying to keep it together because I'm like, I'm a pregnant lady. Can't cause trauma over this hummingbird, so I'm trying to, like, hold it. That was me trying to keep it together. But, yeah, I was really sad and upset, and I missed it. Because it was, I mean, it really was a big part of your guys' day.

It was our day. The hummingbird, like, that was your day. It was so little. And you guys saw it, like, and you were feeding it. We watched them come out of a little egg and then grow, you get bigger, and get his feathers. And is that when your passion for hummingbirds started? Or have you always been a big hummingbird guy? I've always loved hummingbirds, but I never had them around me.

So, you know, everybody sees him. Oh, look, it flies by fast. You're like, oh, that's a cool hummingbird. But until it's, like, in front of your front door every day and you're talking to it. Relying on you. Yeah, exactly. So Alan is named Alan. Alan had some earlier names, a couple different names.

We couldn't decide. And then finally, we settled on Allen because when the rescue people brought another hummingbird to release with Alan, that was an Anna hummingbird. Oh, yes. Alan is actually an Alan hummingbird. So we're like, we'll just name them. Perfect. Alan and Anna. That's really cute.

I love that you guys like, well, we were thinking of a few names like it was your time. Well, we were going back and forth. That's what I can't imagine what you're actually going through right now for baby names. You have any of let us know off air. Mike. Okay, you can say those on air. All due respect to all mics. Great name.

Hey, that's my dad. Oh, yeah. But that's, I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to bring back like. the oldest names and be like, because then in like 20 years, he'll be like, wow, Mike, what an edgy name. That's it. It's short for Michael.

What? You're crazy. It's just hard to find like Mike Pratt on Instagram's taken. Oh, for sure it is. And that's what you've got to think about because you've got to brand the baby. Yeah. It's hard. You know?

It's hard. It's a baby. I can't wait. I cannot wait for the Snapchats and, I mean, everything. That's going to be so good. Okay. Craving. French fries

French fries Ice cream Pizza French fries is I just start thinking I'm what do I want right now French fries have been haunting Heidi

Really? Okay yeah Well you just get to pick one So French fries All right yeah French fries But she's what I

French fries is Yeah All I hear about Okay Okay She gets them She doesn't just talk about them Gosh

You guys I need to have you back again And just have like a spread When you come Of like Every All of your favorites And just like

put up a hummingbird wallpaper before we start. Okay, next word. Soup life. Don't say life. Every day. Every day. And, oh, he's pulling out of Snapchat.

Oh, no, I'm putting you on IG. Oh. You're slowly, you're merging into IG. I am. Are you guys all about the IG stories? I am. Really? Yeah, I mostly do IG now and set a snap.

Oh, okay. Because you can tag things too. I get that. I am trying. trying to slowly transition, but I just have such a soft spot for Snapchat that, you know? Yeah. Okay, next word. Paparazzi.

Fun. Yeah. I agree. It's fun. I don't really get them anymore, but. Nothing came, what came first in my mind? I messed the game. Money.

No, I was thinking, where are they? That's what I'm thinking, too. Hey, where did you guys go? Not enough. It is fun though There is one time that I had Only one where it was crazy And that was right as soon as we came off

The show and everybody knew we were engaged And we came off Good Morning America And we didn't understand And I felt like I was like I just want to go get crazy Like drunk and be this hilarious Like paparazzi shoot Where they're like

Look how drunk Caitlin was And it happened And it was so funny I came out of a restaurant in New York And I wasn't expecting it And I was like Do do and Sean put me on his back And all of a sudden, all these cameras went off.

And that was the only time that's ever happened to be that crazy. Did it used to be like that for you guys? Like, all the time. Well, the business changed a lot. It's changed. Now the photos don't license for what they used to. So it's hard for photographers to make the money to just have packs everywhere they used to be. I think if we went to the three spots that are like the known mecca of paparazzi, they'll be there.

But in the good old days, you know, you'd have three cars just. following you everybody had people following you yeah I missed the days of stalkers but um yeah it's probably more fun once in a while too because you know probably for some people it gets overwhelmed don't mind me I'm just filling up my wine cup I've been watching like um I better start drinking a little faster over there I know I filled it up we're good okay what were you saying I got too distracted by my one and a lot of people had to move home because it's just a different industry like a lot of the photographers you know couldn't afford to be here anymore when we were getting a lot of poverty. So many

of the PAPs were Brazilian and now I think most of them went back to Brazil. Oh, I'm not getting into politics on this show. Well, oh, shoot, I just That was way before. Oh, right. Yeah, recession. Oh, I'm Canadian. I don't know.

I don't know. Okay. I don't know what I'm doing. I feel like you guys are like geniuses when it comes to you like making people talk and getting, like keeping your, I wish. No, you are. I feel What about that one? Come on.

Are you, I mean, I obviously know from magazines, just like people say you guys were like this outrageous couple and blah. Were you actually or were you playing the game? Oh, I was definitely insane for a good song like three years. Well, yeah, so was I, I guess. So I would think that, you know, there's probably some truth and a lot of the outrageousness. But Heidi was always just so lovely. And now I'm our manager. And accountant.

Great transition. Yeah. Now I take care of everything. Wait, that's a great transition. You've just always been great. No, I mean, I definitely. Spencer's nodding his head. Like, yes, that's so cute.

No, I had some things that I went through. Well, yeah. You know, it's just a lot of pressure. So much pressure. Like, no one on your side. Everyone else had managers and agents and this whole team. And it was just Spencer and I against all these people where they had the like the current going with them and we had it like all coming against us.

So it just was a lot to deal with. probably made you guys stronger. Yeah, absolutely. And Spencer had a lot of responsibilities. I think that's what was, he had a lot of pressure. That he shouldn't have had, right? He put on himself. Yes. You asked to be my manager. I say yes. Okay. I didn't know. I were. I were qualified. No, you were. You did a great job. Honestly, you were incredible. You were very invested. You made a lot of incredible decisions. And just some things happen. And a lot of things were out of our control. A few things were bad decisions. And the rest of it was in God's hands. So, it's all good. And you know

what? Having a few slip-ups does not make you bad people, okay? No. Like, it's, I just feel like I'm, I obviously don't know you guys that well, but I know you from Snapchat and now we're friends. But I feel like you guys have such a good relationship and you've made it through

so much together and now you just seem so cute together. Like, you're still so in love. And I was with a mutual friend we have, I know. I thought I saw her on your Snap story. And then she said oh i was with can last night i was like i know it was you and she was like she was like they are so sweet and so cute and so in love and i'm like i know i watch their snapchats but like you guys really are and like i hate when people ask me what's the secret because i'm like i don't know

it's just who we are but what's your secret what's the secret spending a lot of time together yeah oh i get it you know that's what i feel like yeah a lot of couples i see you know i feel bad for them but they have to you know go to separate jobs and then they come home with different problems and you know we don't have that situation so um i think also prioritizing is really important you know like spencer and i prioritize each other yeah and that has to be your number one priority over your family and your other friends and it's like really it's you too because this is your new family right this is your that's the most important person in your life and so everyone else are really important and you need to take them into consideration but the main priority in your life like

Spencer is my main priority. And then I try to figure out everything else after that. But that has to be really. That's so sweet. I like that. Not now that there's a baby, though. Don't get jealous. Oh, my gosh.

She's already jealous the baby. This is why we haven't had a baby yet. I was like, you've had me alone for 10 years. It's not enough. That's so, I get that, though. I'm like a big attention-seeking person. Like, if Sean is, like, paying more attention to our dog, I'm like, excuse you. Oh.

Excuse you. This happened to us. That's why we have four dogs and not one dog. That's true. Really? Oh, yeah. Heidi love Dolly a little too much. I was like, I've only had her for a week.

She's this big. And, of course, I'm going to take her everywhere. And his mom was like, he's not kidding. He's really upset and jealous. And I was like, oh, this is getting crazy. It's a puppy. It's both of our puppy. That's so funny.

Okay, your mom, did you really block her on social? media yes and this is a real last night oh i i go our next our neighbor god bless lillian's heart rest and peace she went to heaven yesterday but oh my gosh which is like her mom which was my mom's mom pretty much because they've been you know window to window for 35 years or whatever so when i go over there to come from my mom and she's all crying and she's all sad and she's like look what i posted on my g and i'm like that's a great photo just like i try to tag you but it wouldn't let me and i was like yeah She's like, well, why can't you unblock me? I was like, because I just don't, it's too much.

It's too much. I get it. You know, like, you know, you comment first before anyone else and then. You want her to have a hobby. Yeah, and you like before anyone else. And then people are seeing my mom commenting. It's just, I don't know, mom. And then she's like, all emotional.

I'm like, oh, this is, she's got me. And the night before she made me unblock her on Twitter. So I was like, okay, she'll live off that for like. Like, I thought I'd get a month out of that. Nope. Nope. So it's just too much when your mom's to invest. And you know what it was, why we beefed out is because I Snapchated something that, you know, anything I Snapchat doesn't need to be on Snapchat.

You know, like, nothing is. And my mom messaged me, this was a couple of years ago now. And she's like, why did you post that on your Snapchat? I'm like, what? She's like, it just was kind of stupid. And I was like, everything I do is pretty stupid, mom. But it's like she messed with my head so much, like, well, then should I stop post? You know, like, why do I use Snapchat?

My mom. So then I was like, no, I'm just going to block her. And then her own best friend said to her, Lucy said, your snaps are too long, that she, she wants you off of her account. So I blocked her best friend also. I was like, what's Lucy's account real quick? Bye, Lucy. Bye Lucy. So I even call Lucy's son, who's my buddy.

I was like, yo, you tell your mom, don't be coming. at my snaps okay Brian I love how passionate you just got in the last two minutes I don't know because it's just these haters are just gnarly oh I get it that's I can't imagine the haters that you guys would have got on social media if you if you know the internet still existed that's true I can tell you what it was like worse I can it was way worse because there were no Instagram and there was no so you got like notes of death so it was just everyone that would have put that on your like account would go to like us magazine.com They would go to people. We used to get 2,000 comments on every other thing on us weekly would be like three comments and it would be like 2,000. But God used it for good because that's why we kept getting posted so much because the magazines loved it. They were like, whoa, we can monetize it. So thank you guys. That's why I say you're kind of geniuses because it's like I do feel like you did monetize it and you used it to your full advantage.

And how did your mom feel about the show? My mom? Yeah. If she says your Snapchat, sorry. She, my mom. Maybe there's another subject we should talk about. My mom loves LC. Okay.

Okay, next subject. Yeah, let's say. Next subject. What about those fan questions? Yes, I'm almost there. What was I? Oh, I wanted to ask you guys, because for me, I like, when people are like, you and Sean are so perfect, I'm like, well, we're actually not.

And we have, like, arguments and stuff. Do you guys argue or have you moved past that? You know how to argue now. Well, Heidi doesn't like to argue, even if I wanted to. Really? She's not like an argue person. That's great. That's a great quality.

Yeah. It actually makes me physically sick. Really? Yeah, I can't do that. Our real arguments are about where we're going to eat. And that's a real like, oh, is it just, no, it's not true. No, it really is. I think that communication is really important, and it's important to diffuse that before it becomes a big blowout.

So, like, with me, sometimes I have a problem with not. fully expressing how you know I feel or want so I've worked on that the last few years like okay I need to just put this out and then Spencer's very receptive and listen so it's important to diffuse it before it becomes an argument and I'd say the only thing we ever really disagreed on was having a baby and here we are I won and that's I mean that happens between a lot of negotiation we we waited right yeah and timing is everything right I feel I'm starting the negotiation for two because it takes years no you haven't even had one yet that's what I'm saying here it goes why even you got to start you got to start early that's not

even a rational conversation it started early let's diffuse the situation um I feel like I'm learning a lot from Heidi right now like in my relationship I'm like I'm gonna go that's a good point I'm gonna go home and be better at communicating and diffusing it before it blows up yeah exactly great advice that's great advice and you're very different people so it's important that you both value and value your own opinion as much because sometimes I'm like oh maybe he's right with this and it's like well no matter if he is I'm going to put it out there because then you know you might as well put it out there how you feel you should do like some sort of something where you can spread your wisdom of relationships because I really do feel like you know what you're doing and that's why you guys

have worked like I do I feel like you're you're very level-headed about everything and I really appreciate it yeah wife wisdom oh yeah started pending intellectual property trademark That's so funny Okay, yeah Because I'm like I hate when people say we're perfect Because I'm like We don't put our fights on Snapchat

So you should We thought about it Yeah, it's go We have thought about it I'll take those views To that next level We have thought about Are you guys

So you're not watching this Bachelorette No I'm sitting there I'm there Okay so you're not invested Yeah Was that off Off Mike that we were talking about that No it was mic

It was? Oh Where am I Who are you guys? You're in L Lai who are you guys so Heidi are you watching I'm watching and what do you think about this season

I like it I like you know it's not my favorite season do you feel like at this point they're coming in being like Instagram is now a business so here I am building my business I don't think the cast has changed

I think it's always kind of been similar I think a lot of people have been it's TV it's like anyone says you're the one going on TV it's like you're all there for TV what are you talking about everyone here If they didn't want to be on TV, would just go on an app or something. I hate that line. Everyone's there.

So it's like, okay, yeah, a good thing can come out of TV. It doesn't mean that's the only reason or that's how it's going to end. So that just bothers me because I think the cast is same. Yeah, I went on the hills for TV, but now I have a wife and a baby from TV. Yeah, exactly. So that's why I do watch The Bachelor and Bachelor knowing, you know,

magic in a bottle can't have it. They're randomly two people can fall in love. and have a baby off of a reality show. Look at you. Yeah, exactly. So I think it's, you know, it's a numbers game. Every now and then you won't get that success rate, but I think. Yeah, and that can happen if you pick 10 couples off the street.

If you pick 10 couples off online dating, if you met in a bar, one out of 10 might work. And that's just life. So, yeah, on TV, it's the same thing. Everyone just thinks it's so wild. Yeah. She's definitely very cut throat, though, like kicking people out pretty quick. So I'm like, whoa, whoa, you know, like the childhood guy. He, like, almost cried.

I felt really bad for him. I was like, why did you bring the rose and then kick him out? Couldn't she just kicked him out? That was just like too cut throat for me. That was a little like, whoa. She like grabbed the rose and was like, can I take you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, bye.

Yeah, totally. I thought the same thing. I was like, why did she pick up the rose? Right. Isn't her dad a judge? She is, isn't she? Oh, her dad is? She's a lawyer?

Oh, I know. If your dad's a judge, you're on a whole other level. That's true. No, that's true. I feel like we should get to the questions because there's some fun ones in here. Like, these are all questions I wanted to ask you guys anyway, so I'm like, oh, cool, I'll just do it from the listeners.

Thanks. Okay, so Marianne Hill asks, what's the weirdest rumor you've ever heard about yourselves? Most of them are true. I don't know. Weird and true. Yeah. But not one sticks out where you're like,

I don't know, do you? The weirdest I've heard was not. a rumor I read it in a tabloid that I got peck implants when like this isn't even something like it doesn't even look like I have peck so it's like you were really buff well it wasn't it wasn't implants it wasn't implants but yeah that's everybody you said that Sean got a nose job after the show and I'm like well no he just knows his ankles on Instagram right one of those Instagram models just aired him out you go on the bachelor and all of a sudden you're an instagram model just in case you didn't know that's what happens um i don't think you can go on the

bachelor now without a six-pack though because i was saying my i was saying my buddy panero would be the best person for the bachelor yeah but he doesn't have a six-pack so i don't know if we need to get panero in shape or what oh well he'd be like a better version of the waboom guy no do not compare him to no not even close I mean not funny or anything edit that out

I do not hang out with the boom guy did you guys get that edit that part out edit it out well maybe no you don't have to but I mean that is

what people are looking for and it's so ridiculous you know what my celebrity crush is Paul Rudd and he does not have a six-back and I think he is so attractive Paul Rudd I love you man

From dirty work? Breaking bad. Dirty work. Right? Breaking bad? No. Paul Rudd, he was, I love you, man, and he was also Phoebe's guy on Friends. Dirty work, right?

Oh, no, clueless. Yes. Oh, right, right, right, right. He doesn't have a six-back. All the Jed Apatows. Okay, Steph Hytree asks, will the baby's nursery theme be hummingbirds and crystals, and will the baby's name be Alan? Yes.

So this is a discussion we're having. I just found Heidi showed me An amazing like mural of trees There's birds Butterflies They were wrong No

You didn't look Up in the trees or birds Not hummingbirds This is the problem There's not going to be We'll find We'll get an artist We're not putting

A I'm not paying for an artist To come to the house And do that Maybe they'll do it out of charity Maybe They will Maybe somebody will Maybe somebody can

Yes You can always find a sponsor So we'll see Maybe it'll be a hashtag Ad hummingbird artist But no crystals because NASA does say that crystals have vibrations technically, and I don't know how that would affect the baby,

and so I don't want it to, like, interrupt sleep, or I don't really know. Spencer does not like that answer. Well, you bring me that NASA astronaut. You have showed me that. I know, but let's find the one that tells you a nice little rose cord. It's in there is not... I don't want pink in our boy's nursery. Oh, pink is a hot color and...

Nope. Oh, my God. I'm the decorator. You're in for a wake-up. up call oh no no no no pink i was even thinking pink would be a good boy's name it is being silly there definitely is not a pink sprat uh pratt pink pratt on hey that's that flows forget pink panther pink pratt on instagram okay moving on um i don't know this it was like at kelsa or something how does one fully accomplish soup life order soup anytime it's on a

you and then snapchat it and say soup life yeah i guess you don't have to do that part you may have a mom that like complain about it drink hot soup in the middle of the summer spencer loves soup all times and that's how you accomplish soup life you just commit to soup no matter what for years though like i'm i'm i'm deep in the life you know so ever since i've known you really oh at least 10 years so probably soup junkie yeah no many years law long time Thank you. Jennifer Wyson asked, what was your reaction when you saw the positive pregnancy test? Oh, my gosh. I was so excited. Spencer was asleep, and I thought that I was pregnant. Yeah. And I just got on my knees and I started praying and I was so excited.

Before the test, you thought it? Yeah. I thought it a few days before I told you that. Breaking news. You didn't hint it to me. You just had a feeling. listening she's like what i can't hear you what nope nope yeah you were you were on snapchat and she told you yeah so this is how this is the life yes that's i get so annoyed at sean when he's on his phone all the time and he's like you are literally on your phone just as much as me and i'm like

fair i am why are we i can't say that to hidey back though there's one of us she's not no see that's i really that is one thing in my relationship where i want to work on is not having our phones on us so much, but you've got to give the people what they want, you know? It's hard because it's a balance of your business and your life, and so I remind myself of that when I'm like, oh, I wish once I were to get off his phone. It's like, well, at least he has this and it's good that he is doing this and that he has such an engaged audience from it. And so I don't want to, like, deter that, but I don't want it to be our full life,

so it's hard finding that balance, but definitely not at dinner. Yo, no. No, that is not even allowed at the Boostow house. Oh, wait, that's our name, Bootho. Oh, cute. Oh, yeah. It sounds like a good bar name. Maybe we'll have furniture, you can have bar, you can have cupcakes.

I'm okay with that. I think there's only a couple more. Laura Myers asked, if you two met on The Bachelorette, what would Spencer have done for his limo entrance? Has anyone ever sat on top of the car? No. Ghost ride the whip? That's what you do. You would ghost ride the limo?

Oh, yeah. Okay, that's cool. I like that. That's great. That is good. And that would get your attention. Yeah, that's, I... Love at first sight.

Well, when you know, you know. That's, I always say that the big limo entrances to me are so entertaining and that's what I was like looking forward to the most as night one. Well, I wish Britt wasn't there, but I was fine to share it with her, but I was looking forward to having... Who's Britt? Thanks. She was maybe going to be the other one. That one, right.

But then my favorite was that Sean just like got out of the limo and was just, just himself and I'm like oh actually that got my attention that you didn't do anything crazy out of the limo I always wonder are you allowed to do that or did like they let the people they think are going to win just be normal like oh you can be the normal guy it's like I'm sure some people don't want to come in the parrot costume or whatever

are you kidding do you remember my limo entrance on Chris Sol season I dropped an F bomb and I was like very inappropriate and they convinced me that that was a good idea oh see it worked for you look at you now look at you I didn't have a normal limo exit no terrible language i was like dad you might want to turn off a few episodes um and i feel like

i could go all day with you guys there's just so much content you know so much content when you say that on snapchat are you being funny or serious serious he's being serious wait when she's stealing my content yeah or like just content in general having content because there's so many YouTubers out there that i'm always laughing at they're like oh that's good content oh people say that. Yeah. Oh. Oh, I thought you were making fun of it. I don't know. I'm, I guess I'm a

YouTuber. No, so we, he got it because he's been producing, I mean, he did like Prince Malbu and that's just such camera talk. It's content, producing. And so Spencer's always said that word. Do you say, go for me? No. We don't have a walkie. They never let us have walkies. We wanted walkies. We always get on their line. Hey, what do you? And then I don't like it. That's so, because when you say content, I always thought you're joking. And I'm like, there's so many like the the blown up pictures of you guys is my favorite thing in the world in your home like i absolutely i'm like die why didn't i think of that as genius the backstory is yes i would love to know when uh we were trying all right so what year is that like 2008 like 2008 i'm sure it's still

very hard to get into but uh cut in beverly hills at the beverly wilshire hotel wolfgang just opened his steakhouse it was the hardest place to get in we tried to get in once and they like much laughed at us. We then came back like when they opened 5 p.m. And like okay, we'll be in here. We'll play your little game. We'll play your little game. Do you have a table for two at 5? We don't lose.

So we go back and we ended up talking to the manager and hanging out and got along with her or whatever. And then we started coming back a lot like a lot. And they had all these huge portraits on the wall of Obama Angelina

like Jack Nicholas And this famous photographer, Martin Scholar, shot him. And we used to always be like, we need to get on the wall. We need, like, joking. Yeah. And this manager pitched it to the photographer. And he's like, okay, I'll take their photos. So then we got on the wall.

Yeah. And they got so many complaints from, you know, all the actual famous people, like, we don't want them on the wall next to us. Go on. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And there were like age.

There's only five photos or six. And it's like superstars. and then Spidey. And like agents were complaining. No way. About why are they on the wall here? We're not going to come here. So it became a thing.

But Wolfgang is a gangster and didn't even care. And like TMZ once said to him on camera like, do you think you jump the shark, putting them on the wall here? And he's like, jump the shark. I catch the shark and I eat the shark. I don't even think he got the expression. So when they took all the portraits down, we're like, we need our portraits. And they're like, oh, they're $50,000.

And we're like, sold. No, uh. Well, I think we had to pay for them before. To even get them shot? To get them shot, we had to pay for them. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. All right. I think you're wrong.

Okay. Let's agree to disagree. To keep them. Okay. There's no way we'd pay 50 and they would have got to keep them. No, they were only going to be there for however long. That was our. Uh-uh.

Okay. Okay. Okay, no. This is, that's fine. I agree with Heidi. I know how she works with this relationship, and I'm just like already agreeing with her. So now we have them. We just decorated our home, and we have a fireplace in the middle, and two pieces of artwork on either side.

And I legit said to Sean, I actually want Spencer and Heidi on either side of our fireplace because that is beautiful artwork. And like, so how much? It's 100,000? Nope, they're priceless. Dang. We're keeping them forever. I get it. Oh, I'm so glad I asked about that.

It's not funny. I love it. Well, I appreciate you guys being here. I feel like you might have, like, helped my relationship a little, Heidi. Thank you. Really? I'm like, I'm going to really take what you said and run with it. Text me anytime.

I will. And then you're like. Well, yeah. No, no, text me anytime. So tonight. There's a rule. And if, yeah, so if you get drunk or if you're upset or anything, just walk out of the room, take a few deep breaths, think it through, then come back out. Was that why you're always leaving the room?

I have laundry to do and stuff I have things I'm doing You're going to regret giving me your phone number I'm going to be texting you Like every day be like what do I do in the situation What would Heidi do? Go for it. Okay you guys

Honestly I appreciate you guys We're honored to be on the number one podcast In the iTunes store You were such a good tire pumper Thank you for pumping my tires If you guys don't follow them on Snapchat You are missing out Anything really Instagram

Snapchat, you guys are so entertaining and so sweet and so fun and I don't care about what people say about the past and the show like you guys are so real and I love that we're friends now. Yeah. And thank you, Kelly Oxford for introducing me to these

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