Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Stassi Schroeder | House of Stassi & Her Most Personal Chapter Yet!

Episode Date: August 4, 2026

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Macy's, visit Macy's.com, or head to your local store to shop all the latest styles, beauty, and everything you need to soak up the last bit of summer. And Apartments.com, the place to find a place. You're listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Hey everybody, welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow. Stasi is officially back on our TVs with her new series, House of Stasi. But this isn't the Stasi we met years ago. This is Stasi, a wife, a mom, an entrepreneur, and someone who's just built a whole new life, and she is breaking the fourth wall. So we really get to see it all on this show. Today, we talk all about filming with the people you love most, how hard that is, balancing work, family, what success looks like now. The friendships that have stood the test of time, even if there is a little, dip there and everything that comes with building this next chapter. So please welcome my friend Stasi Schroeder. Who colors your hair? You have the color hair that I want. So, okay, after I had my wedding in Rome, I had like the perfect bridal blonde. Yes. Yeah. And I realized I wanted to match my daughter. Yes.

And so Bradley, my hairstylist, he took my hair down to match my daughter. And I looked like, it looked like season one of Van der Pumperable's hair, you know? Yeah. And then I just never did it again. So it's been three years of just like growing it out. Wait, so this is grown out? So this is now just like grown out hair. So that's your natural hair color? Yeah.

Bitch. I know. This is the thing. You got to commit. You got like you got to commit. Mine's like mousy brown, which is fine. But mine is mousy. It is.

But like yours looks so like just a nice natural brown. But if you committed No, because I'm getting grays So am I, but we just plucked them Wait, were you the one who went on Kelty's podcast and said you never had a nipple hair? Correct, and I still have not. You still have not?

I'm pretty much perfect. Wow! I'll just sit here and compliment you the whole time. You have perfect hair, you have no nipple hairs. Okay, but you know, in all fairness, I did have to get a breast lift where, like, he made my nipples like seven inches higher. So maybe they just like...

The hair follicles... Yeah. They're just in a different place. Yeah. Wait. You got a lift? That's so fun. Oh, yeah.

I'd love another one. That was 10 years ago. You got a lift 10 years ago? Yeah. And a reduction. Wow. Oh, did you have like really big boobs? Yeah.

It's time for me to do something. I need like something. I don't know if it's another lift or like a teeny little implant just so that it's just like perky. Yeah. It's so flat. Yeah. Well, your mom and you, did you breastfeed? Hartford I did for three months until I couldn't take it. And then when I had

Messer, I was like, that was the most isolating three months of my life. Yeah. I'm not doing that again. Good for you. Good for you. I mean, I feel like you have to, you learn always on the first kid what you will and will not do the next time. What's worth it? What's not? Oh my gosh. I bet there's so many moms out there or moms to be listening that one. So many, so much advice on that kind of thing, which we'll get to. But I want to talk about the show. Congratulations. It's so good. The trailer, I don't know why. I'm an emotional person, but like, I teared up. I don't know why.

Like, I got goosebumps. Caitlin? What? Do you know how many versions of the trailer we went through? Really? Every time, I was like, my note, my main note. I was like, you guys can switch up a million things. I was like, if I don't feel emotional and feel like goosebumps, then the trailer is not there.

Well, it worked. And it took so long to get to there. So the fact that you said that you felt. that. I'm like, mission upon first. We did the thing. Okay. I truly was like, why am I so emotionally invested already? And I, like, I'm not really a big, this sounds crazy, but a really big reality TV girl. I think because I think maybe it made you emotional because you have been on reality TV a lot. And I think maybe that there's, there's a lot you can relate to in seeing us like break the fourth wall, like knowledge the show and all of that because you know,

what that's, you know what it's like. So I could see that affecting you more than just, just the music that went along with it, the little clips that you picked for the trailer. Like, I'm so in. I'm so in. And because I feel like people kind of feel like they grew up with you. We've seen so many different versions of you. But this feels like the first time they're meeting you where you're at today. Yeah. I feel like that too. Yeah. Even though like I've done Vanderpump Villa for two years, that's like me on vacay. Yeah. That's me on vacation. Well, you have like a certain role there. Yes.

Yeah. Totally. No, this I feel very vulnerable and exposed on this one, but in the best way. Yeah. In the best way. No, that's what makes you, you already are such good TV and just like a good person. So I feel like feeling exposed on reality TV, a lot of people wouldn't put themselves in that position. But that's what makes you like royalty.

Thank you. Yeah. Thanks. Oh, my God. Do I have a crush on you? I'm like, and that's enough, Caitlin. I will humble you, don't worry. We'll get there.

Just kidding. I'm ready, I'm ready. I won't. But you're, okay, you're in your late 30s now. 38. 38. Are you excited to turn 40? I am.

Yeah, everyone says your 40s are the best time of your life. Did you see Oprah just said? Yes, she said 44. That's when your life starts. Yes. And so I'm just like, and I just keep seeing women get hotter and hotter and hotter that I'm like, oh, okay. So like, I haven't peaked yet.

Like, I'm just going to get hotter for a little while. I think the 40s are like where it's at. Yeah. I'm 41 and I'm like, well, I don't want the 40s to end. 50s scare me a little bit. 40s, I was excited. I could see that, but like, look at J-Lo. That's true.

Yeah, but she has the genetics. She's like. That's true, but we have science. We do have science. We do have science. We do have doctors. Do you believe that she hasn't got Botox? No.

Okay. I always think that. I'm like, J-Lo, who else says Kendall Jenner? There's a few people where I'm like, oh, when people say that they haven't done things, I don't believe any single one of them. Yeah, me either. Yeah. And I hate feeling lied to.

I don't care. I don't know. Because I look at them and I'm like, if you haven't, I don't know, I've just had so much, I guess, that I'm. I love Botox. I do too. Yeah. I really do. I hear people say that it's like, it's talks.

It's toxic. But then my Botox girl has like all the research in the world and she's like, it's not. Is that their reasoning for saying it's toxic? Because the word talk, the sound talks is in it? I think so. Losers. Freaks. Freaks.

Okay, you're in your late 30s. I'm excited for you in your 40s because I feel like you're going to just love it. But what is your 30s taught you that your 20s never did? Oh, my gosh. You know what? I was so delusionally confident in my 20s. And we always, like, we read magazines, like these interviews with women, you know, and celebrities and movie stars and stuff like that as they're aging and they're like,

you know, with age, you just become so much wiser and so much more confident. I'm like, the f—that's not happening to me. Yeah. Like, that's—I feel like the older I get, the more I don't know of the world. Like, I was so certain I knew everything at 22, at 23, at 25. And now at 38, I'm like, God, I know nothing. I always say I don't know shit about— Yeah.

I know. It's just like there's so much that we just don't comprehend or understand or no. and my confidence like no I miss that delusional confidence that I used to have I feel like I worry so much more now I don't know if it's because I have kids or just like I don't know I don't have kids and I am more of a warrior can I talk worrier later in like I started worrying a lot around I would say 36 37 okay that's when I started becoming and I was like oh no I'm turning into my mom she worries about everything yeah and it's only gotten worse yeah But also we're being fed so much scary information.

That's true. TikTok does not help with the worrying and the anxiety. I know, but sometimes I just love to doomscroll, you know, and then just let myself take me and linger into the darkness. I know, I know. What's a rabbit hole you're in right now? I'm really into watching women make their husband's lunches. Really?

I don't get it. I've never made a lunch in my life. Oh, okay. is for our kids. Like, I don't do that. Yeah. So, like, I don't know why I'm so fascinated by watching other women do that. It's like what you don't know. You're like, oh, wow, people do this. It's crazy. And, like, they put a lot of effort into it. I also watch TikToks where they put, like, zero effort into it. And so, like, all the comments are like, jail. The comments are my favorite part of TikTok. Oh, me too. Like, the world is so funny. The world is very funny.

It makes me feel like I don't deserve to be on TV because I'm like, the comment section is so much funnier than I'll ever be. I agree. I always look at the comment section. I'm like, I wish. I was that funny or that clever. I know. It is really something. But not that you had the delusional confidence in your 20s, but you do seem more comfortable in your skin. I think I am.

I am. And in my 30s, I really, I really believe in myself. Yeah. Like, I, like, trust that, like, I have all the tools or whatever to, like, do anything I want and to be the best version I can be. Yes. of whatever that is. Yeah.

I really do believe in myself. And I don't know that I was always like that in my 20s. So like that came along, I guess, in my 30s. No, I actually relate to that. Okay, where does that come from? Do you think that you've got more comfortable in your own skin? I don't have any idea. I really.

It's experience. I do too. It's just like anything. Time. But is there like a part of your younger self that you've fought to hold on to? because I feel like also in the industry of entertainment and people trying to tell you how to be, how to look, sometimes you lose that.

Like I'll never forget Megan Fox did an interview and she was like, remember Love is Blind where the girl went on and said she looked like Megan Fox and she did not. Megan was like. Yeah, it was so iconic. She actually does look like Megan Fox. No, I see.

She received way too much hate for that. I totally saw Megan Fox. I actually do see a hint of Megan. Yes. But someone told Megan Fox at and I think someone told her like, oh, and she's getting just like destroyed online for it. And Megan was like, I hope she doesn't lose like her magic of like what made her her before going on TV. And Megan said, because that's what happened to me.

She's like, I completely lost like my sparkle and from other people online. But that's what I'm asking. Like, is there something that you have always had about you? Because I feel like you've got this edge and the spice. And I feel like that's maybe something that people would be like, tone it down. And you're like, you. I don't. Yeah.

No, I don't know. I don't know if it's because, like, I'm, I've always had thick skin. Yeah. And then being on Vanner Pump rules, like, no one liked me in the beginning. And I got really used to that. So, like, I had to just, like, not give a fuck. Yeah. You know?

And I think I've always had, like, a strong sense of self. I do know this about myself. And I feel like the people I grew up with, like, they would attest to that. I don't know. I just, I've gotten really far. just being myself and I've seen how that's rewarded me. So like I just like stick with that. Good.

That's what I think most people love about you is I don't feel like you've, you've matured and you've grown in certain ways, but you remain very like true to who you are. Thank you. Yeah. It's really cool. Do you feel like you're still ambitious the same way that you were like before kids? I'm more ambitious. Really?

I love hearing that. I am more ambitious because everything I do, if we're talking in terms of like before and after having kids especially. Yeah. Everything I do is to build a empire for this family. Yeah. It's to give my children a head start at life. Yeah.

It's to set them up for success in any way that I can. Like, I just want to give them the world. Yeah. So like it makes me want to work harder, work more, accomplish more. I was like, I've always been ambitious, but this is just, this feels different. Like, there's so much more on the line. That's what I even have written down. here like sometimes ambition can take on a whole other meaning once you start a family yes and that makes a lot of

sense because i already feel like i think that about my unborn children like i'm like i want to set them up it's a scary world we live in yes and everything is getting so expensive and there's AI and we don't know what's going to happen and to just know that you're doing your best to sell your kids yes yeah like i see all these tic dogs this is another rabbit hole okay where it's just like all this new generation they they don't know how to to work. They don't have the desire to work. Like, no one is, like, helped them. Yeah. Like, it's, like, it's sad and, like, bleak. And I'm just like, oh, like, how do I raise my kids so that, like, they're inspired to work? Because, like, Hartford asks me, do you like working? And I was like, yes, I do. Yeah. I was like, I love it. And then she asks me why.

And I always want my kids to see that. Yeah. Um, I want them to, like, want to work as well. Yeah. That's, I feel the same way. I, I, I think for me, like, I can go through really lazy periods. Oh, yeah, me too. And I'm just too, trust. But how do you do that when you have kids? Okay, so I have set my life up perfectly. Tell me everything.

Tell me everything. So I'm somebody that needs a lot of alone time and a lot of, like, rest periods. Like last week when I wasn't doing press or podcasting or whatever, I went in my room and I literally lied down for hours. And like part of myself, I would, I would like, the guilt would creep up being like, you should be doing something, you should be cleaning or you should be answering this email or you should be doing this. It would creep in and I'm like, no, no, no, you need this rest because you're about to do this. Yeah. You're about to go to New York. You're about to have all of these like really intense days.

Your body, like, needs to. And I've set myself up in a way where it's like I have a nanny that we is part of the family. And so, like, I know that my kids are taking care of or they're in summer camp or something like that. So I honor the periods where like my body's telling me be lazy, lay the f*** down, scroll on TikTok or watch a movie midday. Like I'll do it. That's good. But trust me, I feel guilty a lot of the time.

I just have to talk myself out of it. I know because you really do deserve rest. We all do. Even I think about people because I mean, your schedule is so different from most, right? Like you don't have this structure of waking up at this time and this is what time you go to work and this is what time you come home and then you have your weekends. you have like some downtime and then you go balls to the wall. Yes.

Yeah. Yes. It's like you go really hard and then there's like nothing for a full day and you're like. Yeah. It's so bizarre. What do I do? And it's so weird for your body to know how to feel, what to feel, when to like rest. And we're told like resting is bad.

Right. You know what I mean? When it's like, no, it's not. Like we need to. Yeah. But like it is especially like if you have kids because like at night you're not resting. You're not resting because you are feeding them. You are bathing them.

You're playing with them. You're doing all the things. And like by the time they go down to sleep, I'm like, okay, now I'm ready to go to sleep. Okay. I always wonder if people get a, I think I'd get a second wind and I'd want to party. Like I want to have like open a bottle of wine. Oh, well, of course I open wine. Okay, okay.

Yeah, of course I do that. I used to get a second win way more. Yeah. Now I think because the kids are older, they go to sleep later. I don't, I don't know. It's not a second wind anymore. But there were a couple years where I felt that way. Yeah.

And like I would put them down to go to sleep. And I'm like, okay, do you want to have like three hours of like being awake and enjoying your life without children or do you want to sleep? Yeah. And like that was always the question. Are you a night owl or a morning person? Morning person. Oh, I'm so jealous.

I just like love sleeping. Same. So like when 10 o'clock rolls around, like I crave it. At night, you mean? Yeah. Oh, same. No, I'm not a night owl anymore and I'm not a morning person. So what does that make me?

Goals, goals, goals. Everything that I would love to do to be. Last night, I was literally looking at the clock just to get into bed at 7 p.m. Because I was like, I can't jump in at 6.45. No, that's a little too early. That's ridiculous. No, it's been weird even actually like being here too. Because like I have to put myself to bed earlier because I have to get up at one of these days four.

That's disgusting. Ew. Discussing. Four this time? For Good Morning America. I don't know why they make you get there so early. also is 1 a.m. Your time. That's that's unnatural. Oh yeah. That ain't right. That's a natural. It's okay.

Good morning America. I mean, this show's going to crush. I think it is. No, it is. No, I think it is. I'm not just saying this because you're sitting here in front of me on the podcast. I'm telling you that trailer did something to me where I was like, oh, the show's going to blow up. Listen, we're doing something that hasn't been done before. Explain that to me. Like, we are breaking the fourth wall the whole time. Like, we are acknowledging that we are shooting a show and what that does to friendships or relationships or like how that may like it's it's constantly talked about and we intentionally did that because it's like I wanted to make the realist show

we possibly could and if we weren't talking about the fact that katy and i were on banner pump rules for a decade and if we weren't talking about how oh wow i've been off tv for so long and here i am again like then you're missing a huge part of like what this is no the audience loves to fill in their own gaps. So for you to actually fill it in for them and not let them make up their own scenarios is genius. Yeah, we really lay it all out on the table. Which is all anyone ever craves out of reality TV.

And I think that's why I don't get so into it is because I know how this shit works. For sure. And so when you break the fourth wall, I feel like I'm like, oh, thank God. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. I'm someone who just loves hearing about other people's experiences before I try something new,

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since I was 16 years old. That's crazy. So like it's all I know. Wait, that's when Vanderpump, you were 16. No, I went on the amazing race. What? Yes. And then I did another show called Queen Bees. Oh, I didn't. Okay. And then I was on Vayner Pump Rules. So like, I, and when I, even when I was on Vanner Pump Rules, I was like, I can't wait until I eventually get my spin off. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I always there's people that you were born for it that I was just going to do this or at least try for it like I wasn't going to like accept no for an answer um yeah I love it it feels familiar to you yes it's like I it's comfortable like it's I I don't know I can't describe it to me it's like it's like therapy too like I don't feel like reality TV shows cause problems I feel like if you look at it you can look

at it a different way and that like it actually also solves problems. Well, the word exposed is what I keep thinking of when you say it's it brings things to the surface and it forces you to deal with them without pushing them away. Yes. And pretending they're not happening. You dress it head on. Yes. And then you move past it. Yeah.

And it's figured out. But that also takes a partner like Bo probably to be able to do that with you. Because I don't think a lot of people could do that together. Yeah. No, those were some of the most like difficult scenes to film when like me and like, because I couldn't believe how honest Bo was. Like I had told him leading up to it. I was like, you have to be honest about everything. You have to share your feelings.

Like every time you're thinking you're feeling something, like don't hesitate to say it. And like he really. He went there. Did. Well, that's good too that you're open to doing that. Because I think a lot of people, I'm thinking like maybe housewives. Like they're probably, well, that's maybe a bad example. But anyone that's going to go on reality TV as a couple, I think they'd want to like not be called out or not show their problems.

For sure, but that's not real. Right. And I really think that me and Bo's relationship in our marriage is something that I would, I would have liked to see on TV and our dynamic, just the way that he is like the mom. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like the dad. And like the gender roles have been completely switched and how that affects both of us. And working through those conversations and and all that. Like we want that to be out there. Like I think there should that should be highlighted more. because I talk to a lot of moms and they're like, it's the same dynamic in our household. And I'm like, what? Where are you guys all hiding? Where have you been hiding? Like, this is common. To me, it's like our parents, like our parents' generation, it was very much like the mom does

this. The dad works. And that's how we saw things growing up. And now I feel like, you know, it is a little more like obviously the roles have reversed, but I feel like people still aren't talking about it as much. I agree. I agree. Which is so interesting to me.

So we're trying to talk about it. I love that. And are you both able to like own those roles? What do you mean own it? Like like for example, I'm not going to name names, but in previous relationships, maybe somebody that it wasn't even public. That would have emasculated. Well, he talks about how it makes him feel. See, that's so great that he's open like that.

He's a Pisces. Okay. He's emotional. Where did that come from? He's a Pisces. Sensitive Pisces. Oh my gosh. Now, did he grow up a certain way?

that he saw. Yes, so he grew up only with his mom and he's an only child. And so his mom took care of him and his mom worked. And yeah, he's like seen like really powerful female figure. So like that really worked out for me. That's amazing. Wait, I really love that though. So it feels more like cameras are there. They're just following your real life. Yes. So how many hours a day would you film a week? Oh gosh. I don't know. felt like two to three scenes a day, but I was also doing like, tell me lies. I was also like doing so many other things during it. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

I forgot about that. That there was just like all this overlap. It was a lot for like eight weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Did anyone surprise you when the camera showed up? Um, did anyone surprise me? Oh, surprised me.

Like I, I didn't. Like he just went there. Yeah. I didn't know that he was going to feel so comfortable going there. And it's really, it's like incredible to. watch back like yeah it's emotional is there anything that you're nervous to watch back my relationship forget that's the same thing well i'm like proud of it my worst fear is that like people will pin me and bow against each other and i do say this on on the show i say that this is my

my worst my worst my worst fears that people are going to be like i'm team beau or i'm team stasi that's not what this is like this is a married couple who really love each other respect each other that have two small children going through like a stage in our marriage that we're trying to like navigate and we're not even though we might be arguing in a scene we're never against each other yeah that's i think that's really important to even say do you get to see the final edit like in have seen a million oh okay good um because i think that's really important to say because i don't know why people at home think they don't have the same problems and then they watch it on they watch a couple fight and they're like, oh, they're headed for divorce or, or they will write in

the comment section, they should get divorce, which I think is crazy. Like, when I watch people, like, comment on like the people on the valley, rooting for someone to like split up, that's insane. It's insane. You're just watching them argue, which every couple does. That does not mean you should be rooting for them to split up. First of all, it's insane to just root for them to divorce privately, but to go online and then publicly root for the, it's like, yeah, it's scary. Yeah. Why are people, do you think it's getting worse? I mean, you've been on TV since we're 16.

You do. Yes, I absolutely think it's getting worse. Wow. And I get it. It's like with social media and TikTok, we all have these like parapsocial relationships with each other and we feel like we're entitled to have an opinion and we all want to be heard and we're frustrated about, everyone's frustrated about things that are going on in their own lives and like this is how they like get it out like I get it I understand it but it's weird yeah

I don't understand it it's well I understand that these people are not well and that it's like a scary time out there I always say that people are just everybody's so scared in the world right now and they project fear onto like the easy you know totally yeah it's it's easy for them to project their fears into anger onto reality TV people when they see themselves in them yeah so I'm just bracing myself. How do you prepare your kids for that kind of world? Or do you do you don't even have to go there yet, I don't have to go there yet. Yeah, that's true. They're five and she's my master's about to be three. So they're like real little. But they love this. Like they make me play their villa scenes. I love that's, but I mean, they also have the fact that you have thick skin and you're strong and you're able to like know who you are when people are trying to beat you down is a very good example. I really hope so. I really hope so. Because. Because Hartford, especially since she's older, is like, she's becoming more aware. Like, she's, she always asks me why people are, like, trying to take photos with me. Or, like, she's like, why does everybody love you?

Because people will say, hi. I love you. Yeah. Wherever I go or whatever. I'm like, was that, like, that they love me? They've just, like, see me on a TV show. They, like, they, I entertained them. I don't know that they love me.

Like, I love you. Right. Different love. Yeah. Very different love. But that's, like, Snooky when she was here. She was talking about how she tells her kids that she's an actress. So she's like, so when I got arrested, Mommy was just acting.

Which I'm like, oh, well, they will figure it out soon that you're not, but. Hysterical. I know. She's like, I'm just acting, which she kills me because she doesn't really smile and she'll just sit there and be like, she'll just blink and go, yeah, I'm an actress. And I'm like, oh, yeah. That's funny. Yeah, she kills me. I know you get worried that people will want.

want to pit you guys against each other or whatever it is. But I do find that people root for you guys as a couple because you've been together for a decade. Almost. 2017. We started. 2017. Okay. So nine years.

Yeah. Two kids. I feel like you've just built something that a lot of people root for. Even though I'm sure there will be people that, you know, want to say, yeah, of course. You're already bracing yourself for that. But a lot of people would say don't mix. business with pleasure. You guys are doing everything together and you have been. Yeah, we have a podcast together, which like, listen, that gets hard. It does get hard.

I don't know. I just feel like before we got married, before we even got engaged, we both talked about this at like my parents have gotten divorced like and remarried four times each. Okay. And Bo's mom had been married three times too. So we knew, like, we're not doing this. Yeah, yeah. Unless we're really doing this. Yeah. And so it's like no matter what, like, comes our way.

Like, I don't mind mixing business with our relationship because it's like, because you already are. Yeah, it might put some strain on it sometimes. Sure. But like, I know how strong we are that like it doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter. And I like to surround myself, like the dream is to be able to work. with your loved ones.

I don't want to f- them on the payroll. Isn't that part of the... When Katie said that, I was like, yeah, no shit. And? It actually made sense to me. I was like,

that was intentional. I'm like, I want to surround myself with, like, people I love. So if I can, like, work with the people I love, pay the people I love, like, I'm winning. That's selfishly I'm winning. Dude, I just filmed a show in Dominican

with three housewives, another bachelor's girl. Oh, Brittany. Yeah, Brit. Yeah. And I'm like, if I could pick who could be on this, this would be ideal. It would be ideal. Yeah, yeah. That I totally get that. I know this is a cliche question, but how do you guys keep like your spark, like your marriage with the romance and all that? Oh, we're failing at that right now. Right now we're at the phase where it's like having two small kids really like you got a schedule. Mm-hmm. Romantic time. But to me that's romantic. If you're like, you're at the same.

still schedule it. It is, but like it could happen more. This is on my part. Okay. But I'm, I've explained to him. I'm like, we're at a season, we're in a season that like we have two small children and we like, we're doing the damn thing. We're working so hard. We're like we're trust. We're going to go through another season. They'll be better or worse. Like things are always going to shift and change. He has a lot of faith in me. I don't know how. What do you mean? You don't know how you have a lot of faith in yourself. Maybe that's why. Yeah. Okay. You do. I feel like that when a partner sees that other person have faith in themselves, like even, I think it's your honesty too. I don't know how I'm going to do it. I know I'm going to do it. That's kind of your, I don't know you that well, but I feel like that's your mindset. Yeah. That's a lot of women's mindset. I'll figure it out. Yeah, you'll figure it. And you do. And I think just even saying out loud like, yeah, we could go through something better. We could go through something worse. Like, but we're always going to be a team. I feel like you guys are really good at that. Thank you. Yeah. but I mean

I just sometimes I project on my podcast like I think I would start feeling like my relationship was one long business meeting but like how do you carve out time to not talk about work to not do you just that's a good question I don't know we

we like watch we like have certain shows that we like to watch together honestly it it's not like that our relationship feels like one long business meeting we talk about the kids that's the funk world we're in. Yeah. Where it's like we don't really talk about work that much. You talk about the kids. We talk about the kids. And then we'll laugh and be like, we finally get to go to lunch together. And all we're doing is sitting around talking about the kids, which is like we're trying to have a

break from the kids. And it's like that like last night we went to dinner and we scrolled through photos of the kids. Like that we need to learn to like not talk about them and like be better at like engaging with each other. And be like, so what are you looking at on Instagram nowadays? How what's your algorithm doing? That's so funny. I just can't imagine. Like, I'm, I just think because you guys all have so much going on, I don't know how you do it. You probably don't know how you do it either.

Something's always suffering in my life. But that's real. You can't have it all. Something's always suffering. Nobody has it all. Like I had written down here that so many couples hit those seasons where they're just surviving, you know, between work being parents. We're here. You're surviving.

Loud and clear. But when this is like when the. press is done when the show is out there and do you guys have time to just you know what i don't know if i'm allowed to say this but we're probably most likely going out of the country for a month again great and whenever we've done that we've like been able to just like reconnect okay the crossovers that happened on hulu is so great awesome yeah i feel like they finally like i'm i love rob mills and i feel like he finally like understood the assignment of like the crossovers and i'm like Like, yes.

Yes. Because Bachelor, Bachelor, I was always like, so like, don't do anything else. Just stay in this bubble and like don't talk about anything. And now it's like, no, that doesn't do anything for anyone. Rob Mills loves a crossover. Yes. Loves a crossover. The first time I met with him, that's how I think I like sold it.

Really? That by like, or at least like sold him on the idea of everything. Yeah. I was like, you know, there's Van or Pump Villa. Then I was like, him hearing rumblings that it's Italy. Yeah. My husband has an Italian passport. his family's from Italy.

That's like it's right up. It was just very... You just have to plant the seed. Yeah. Yeah. Rob Mills was really into it. That's a... I could not have gotten here

without Rob Mills. Let it be known. He is a genius and a sweet angel. I even think, because I was thinking about Secret Lives of Mormon wives. Yeah. And that Marciano was from built the villa

and now him and Jesse. Like all that, you must have just been like, this is genius. No, it's insane. It's wild. So much went down. And they're like, no. And they're like a really great couple.

I'm not joking. No, they're so, I feel like they're so cute together and they're so in love. Yeah. It's like, how did this happen? Because Marciano, you were literally lying about her and like, you broke up a marriage. Like, how did you guys get here? But they are so cute together. They really are.

Like, even just their comments to each other. I mean, I know it's all social media. But I know Jesse and I feel like she's such a light. I feel like people don't really know them the way that, you know, like, I agree. Because they're really, Mormon. wives are really good at creating TV. For sure.

But they're also the sweetest little angels. They're so sweet. Yeah. It's so funny. But yeah, the Marciano thing. Oh, and I mean, didn't you have to cut like parts of the Dakota stuff out because of the whole Taylor Frankie Paul and now, do you think her season's going to air? I did think so of like a month ago.

Same. And now I don't think so. I know. You never know. You never know. I just, I think. seeing everything play out online right now, I just don't see.

Too much. Yeah. I just like want everybody to focus on themselves. Healing. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Exactly.

Because I feel like I, Taylor and I just, we like briefly talk once in a while. But I feel like she's trying to use her voice, but she's self-sabotaging in the process. And I just want her. I just like believe in her. I totally, you said it perfectly. Okay. Okay, you guys know I've been settling on into my New York apartment over the last couple of months, and I've been taking my sweet time with it.

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National average 12-month savings of $946 by new customers surveyed who saved with Progressive between June 2024 and May 2025. Potential savings will vary. What's the most romantic thing that Bo does for you that people wouldn't expect? And romance can look different to everybody. Okay, he frequently screenshots period piece movies or shows and sends them to me. Aw. Because he knows that, like, that's, like, my favorite thing. It is?

Yes, I, like, love period pieces. So he does that whenever he sees something that he thinks that I would like. Like, I'll be, like, laying in bed and it'll be, like, 10 o'clock at night. And then like, because he's like in the garage or something like that. And he's like, here's a period piece. I think that's really romantic. That actually is. No, that is.

That's what I'm saying. I feel like people look for these big grand gestures of romance all the time when you don't realize the little things that they do every day. That's sweet. What do you do? What is your romantic little? Oh, God. So, like, this is explored on the show. Turns out I'm not that romantic.

And I could really work on that. I feel that for me. I could be better at that. I've had to, like, really be like, how do I show love? Do I show it? I don't know. But this is also what's beautiful about always having cameras on. Yes, you learn about yourself.

Yeah. So that's what you learned. You need to be a little more romantic. Yes. I need to try harder. How do you show love? I still don't know. Well?

I still don't know. Okay. By, like, having his children. Being nice. Great. Hey, being nice is a very good. big piece of the puzzle um i will tell him that i love him i'm good with words oh case of words of affirmation words of affirmation might be what i'm but i could go harder yeah i could definitely go

harder okay are we going to work on this yes okay great i love that for you thank you um tell me how you came up with both your kids names okay um beau came up with hartford okay he we just like woke up one morning and he was like what about Hartford and I was like I kind of love it because like it sounds classic and traditional yes but it's strong too but it's not yeah but no one has that name and I feel very passionately about kids not having the same name as anybody else I know what that did for me it made me a star sorry I'm like in New Orleans there's only one Stasi no that's such a good point you're like oh I know exactly who you're talking about and it gave me you know what I had star power.

You did right out of the womb. Before I even left my hometown. Yeah. How did your parents come up with that name? Short for Nastassia, which is aggressive. I like that. It's really aggressive. And my grandma was like, you can't call a baby Nastassia.

We're calling her Stasi. And so I've always been saucy. So I knew I wanted my kids to have like a one-of-a-kind name so that they could. Yeah. Be like, you know, have that too. Yeah. And so I really liked that Hartford sounded traditional. And we went with it.

Messer. okay, I was obsessed with this show called the Medici. Okay. It's a period piece. Of course. The Italian Renaissance. Okay. And back then, the word that they used for Mr.

Yeah. Was Messer. So it would be like Messer Schroeder. Oh, I like that. It was like instead of Mr. Schroeder. Yeah. And so I was like, that's it. That's a good one.

And so he's Messer. People actually have strong opinions about my kids' names. They hate it. They hate it? Yeah, a lot of people are like, what the fuck? But I just think they're amazing. Well, that's all that matters. Yeah.

I think they're amazing. And I love the story behind it, too. I love the story behind a name, even if it's just. Even if it's lame. Yeah. Yeah, totally. I just like hearing how people come up with it. I don't know why.

And if you looked at my phone and you'd be like, you're a psychopath. The amount. My TikTok, there's my rabbit hole, baby names. Oh, yeah. So do you like a popular, classic name or do you want something different? Both. Oh. Does that make sense?

No. Like, I love a classic, like, for, I love the name Michael. Okay. But, like for a girl. Okay. And then call her Mikey. Okay, that's cute.

Okay. Yeah, so I was like, there's a trillion Michael. We got there. I know, but not anymore. Nobody would name their kid Michael now because there was a trillion. They're a dying breed. Like Tiffany. Yes.

No one's naming their kid Tiffany. We need to bring Tiffany back. Yes. And you know that Tiffany actually is a period piece name? I think it's from the Victorian period or the Tudor. No, I think it's. like a tutor name, but it doesn't, it's crazy because, like, it doesn't sound like it is. So people don't really, like, know that. See, and nobody's naming their baby Tiffany.

So then when Tiffany grows up, she's a queen. She's a star. There you go. See, Mikey, Michael, and middle name Moon. Mikey Moon. Like, I just think that's, mm-hmm. You don't like it. I can see right through your face. You're like, mm-hmm. I've just, I've heard it before. Mikey Moon? I've heard Moon before. So, like, I like new things. Okay. And I think this name, is beautiful, the moon name. Yeah. Like, she named her kid. Summer Moon. It is? Yeah, Summer Moon. So, like, it's not,

she did it. So now I, I filed those names. No, that's so fair. In a file that, like, we don't access them anymore because somebody has them. That's what I mean. I'm a freak about one-of-a-kind names. No, I, I'm the same way. Like, I really do not want another kid to have the same name. And I just feel like everyone, like, thank God, my ex-stole, my baby name for his dog. Teddy. I heard about this. Everyone heard about it because how dare I'm crazy to call it out.

But I was like, I'm so glad now. I'm so grateful because everyone is naming their kids. Teddy. That's rising in the baby names. So I feel like. Yeah, yeah. I'm thankful for that. Yeah.

Now he gets to be Michael. You're like, great. Great name. Okay, well, I'm going to show you my, I'm going to show you my list. I'll show you my list. My list is crazy. Are you going to have more baby? I don't think so.

Okay. But that's also none of my business. I kept my list. I don't care. Okay. I kept my list. Like, it's still in my notes. Yeah.

I'm not like deleting it. Yeah, no. But like I had some crazy names on there. Okay, I can't wait to show you mine. There's a lot. I'm going to show you my cheerleading pick and my baby names. Okay. One thing I love about this stage of your life is that your friendships have just become more

intentional. And I feel that because the older you get, the more it's like quality over quantity. No, quantity over quantity. Yeah. Over quantity. I always messed that up. Quality over quantity. And I feel like you found your people.

For sure. I've always been a quality over quantity person. Really? Even in high school, I wasn't popular. I didn't like have a shit ton of friends. I had like my core group. The one Stasi who was born a queen was not. Oh, okay.

But you. I just. Do you mean? Yeah. I didn't like go out and party. Okay. I wasn't like, I didn't really like date in high school. Really?

I was like academic studious. I just did. I was just responsible. I don't know. Good for you. And I had like my core group of friend, my best friend. So I've always been like that where I just like my my circle tights. Yeah.

But the older you get, there is no time. There is no time to just be like making friends all over the place. There really is no time. Worry about a bunch of people's feelings. Like I don't I don't have time to respond to a million text messages or like I can't just like pick up and like go to dinner. Like that just like doesn't it's not realistic. So I've recently thought about changing my number for that reason. Smart.

Yeah. I have a 504 number. So like if I didn't. What's that? It's New Orleans. Oh. And so like I just like I get that. I have an 818.

That's pretty. That's California. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not random though. Yeah.

For you. Canadian that lived in Nashville and now New York and I had an 818. But it's when I came off The Bachelor, I got a number. Okay. There. And so that's why I got it. But that's, yeah, I just feel like you said something. just two seconds ago when you said something about like you can't care that much about other people's

feelings. I, because if you're in my life, all of a sudden I feel like I have to or responsible for your feelings. For sure. And that's a lot. Yeah, no, I can't live like. I have a husband and two small children to worry about their feelings. I don't have, I can't. So obviously, I mean, you recently shared that you and Katie Maloney had a falling out for a few years before reconnecting. Obviously, you're going to talk about that on the show. What happened? How did you rebuild it? I mean, it was slow. We've always like, we, we didn't have this big fight. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. It was like I kind of ghosted. I just separated myself. I removed myself slowly. But we still, even after I did that, we still would support each other. Like, yeah. I would, you know, I show up for her, like, her sandwich shop for something about her. Oh, you were there at the nails quickies.

Yeah. Like, I'll show up for, like, anything that she wants support at or, like, I'll do her, podcasts and, you know, she would show up for me in different ways. And we've always, like, still really cared about each other. We just couldn't. I was bitter about things. I'm sure she was bitter about things. Are these known things? Now they are. I mean, we talk about it on the show. And I think we finally got to a place right before filming started where it's like, let's hash this out, let's talk about it. I could also tell that she became a different, she's really changed. she's really happy and I think she's grown a lot and

and I wanted to get to know this new version of her and that's been really awesome to witness. Yeah, I don't, I mean, her and I became very close. Yeah, I remember she was flying out and visiting you. Yeah, a lot. She was like the first person to sleep over in my new home. And I think I got to meet like a version of her going into the happy era of her life. And I agree.

She just seems like in such a good place. So I missed that era. Yeah. I just watched, I lurked. Got it. I just saw on social media. Yeah. That is lurking, but that's also fair.

But what did rebuilding that friendship teach you? Oh, that I probably shouldn't like ghost everyone. That's fair. That's self-aware. Or maybe, you know, some people are good to ghost. Yeah. Okay? Some people don't do, like, some people, you don't need to have a big, giant conversation

about it. You don't need to like, I have a complicated relationship with ghosting. now. I do wish I had handled things differently with her. I wish that I had given her a conversation. She deserved that. She was owed that. And I'm sorry she had to like wait years for that. That's fair. I also, I don't know if it'll air, but I was on your show. Yeah. You guys filmed at birds. Yeah. And I remember being like, what the fuck I wanted to film at birds. That's my spot. Really? I live in Beachwood Canyon. So like I go to birds all the time. And I put that down on the list. Like, you know, when you make a list. Where are the places that you go when like filming starts? I wrote

birds and then I found out that you and Katie shot there and I was like, I'm sorry. I would have invited you. That was my spot. I would love to go there with you next time. Just invite me next time. I do feel like a lot of women do struggle with this, like how to know when a friendship is worth fighting for versus accepting you've just simply grown apart. That's really complicated. Yeah. And I think that is a case-by-case situation. But when someone is taking more than giving, than giving, or like when you leave a situation where you're, like, drained every time you're around that person.

And, like, that's where Katie and I got. We got to a place where we would hang out, and I felt like a part of me just left. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I felt drained. And I felt sad. And she was still on Vayner Pump rules. So I think that, like, really.

It made it like really hard. I wasn't. She was. That was her whole life still. Yeah. And my life was so different that like I just didn't like how I felt every time I was around her. But that didn't mean that the relationship was over.

Yeah. No, I do think you're right with it being a case by case situation. It's very circumstantial of what's going on in people's lives. It's just I feel like so many women go through it. Yeah. But I'm like you where I'm just like, you're dead to me. And then I walk away and. Aren't you a cancer?

Well, I have lots of cancer in my chart, but I'm Gemini. Okay. Yeah. I'm a Gemini cancer cancer. Okay, I think it's like the cancer in us that we can just like really snip. Is that what it is? You know, people tell me that. I really can.

And I don't feel anything. It's freaky deaky. Yeah, it is freaky dinky. I should all be scared. Yeah, you should be. I don't know a camera to look at it. Taylor Strecker. Okay, I had her on my podcast once and I fell in love with her.

She is one of the best people to exist. She really is. And hilarious. When I first met her, it was like one of those instant connections. When people talk about like meeting their like husband, that's how I felt when I met Taylor. I knew that we were going to be friends forever. Like she was going to be a big part of my life. Like I just felt so incredibly comfortable with her.

Like in a past life, we've known each other or something. Yeah. She is one of my favorite people in the whole world. That's how I feel. So I have my best friend from childhood. I have a lot of friends from like younger. but my best friend in Nashville cat when I met her. It's like interesting meeting somebody in your 30s and going,

oh, you're going to be in my life for a long time because you don't get that feeling very often. Oh, totally. You met her in your 30? Yes. That's so interesting. And now I'm the godmother to her son. Like I am she's and I, again, I just feel so comfortable around her. There's just, she's just so.

You just click with people. There's just something where you just click with people. I would love to think it's past lives. I love to think that too. Me too. Like my daughter. we've been through a lot of past lives together and I'm convinced that I've like I sent her to an execution or I've like done horrible things to her. What?

Oh yeah. Like when I had Hartford, she came out side-dying me. Like I felt the energy of someone who was just like, not you again. Oh no. And literally our relationship only gets better as she gets older. It was like that when she was a baby when she was a toddler. She always preferred both. She always, I could feel her like.

her energy resisting me. Oh my gosh. And like I could see her wheels turning like her thinking about like why is she being like this. Yeah. I just feel it. And it's it's really not since like like the older she gets the closer we are. You're like you're having another go around and this is the time that it's the right time. I really truly feel this. Wait, have you ever done a past life regression? No. Someone got me one. Like a reading for my birthday. Yeah. And I need to. Oh my gosh. Do it. Yeah. Because I bet they would confirm and validate that for you. Yeah. There's no way.

Because even like there was a moment, like I got her out of the bath like a few months ago. And she was like, I feel sad. And I was like, why? And she was like, because I love you so much. But sometimes my brain doesn't like you. Stop. She said that. And I could see her feel so.

She felt bad about it. And I was like, that's okay. I was like, that's okay. I was like, sometimes you feel things that you can't understand. I was like, don't feel bad about it. Like, I love you. It's your past life, bitch. That's crazy.

It was crazy. I'm a full believer in all of that. And that she, like, she knows it. That's crazy. This is not her first life. Yeah. No. Do you think it's, oh, so you don't think this is your first life either.

I think this is my last life. Oh, you do? Which I'm totally cool with. Wow. Yeah. I think that's why I have like. Why are you cool with it? Because I think this is a good one.

Yeah, you do. I want to end on a high note. You have a great life. I'm happy, but I feel like I'm finally like I'm doing all the things I wanted to do. And I feel like I'm going to eventually have one child. That will be, and I think I'm going to birth a girl who's going to change the world. And she's going to be in Aries. Aries are crazy.

Yeah, but they're leaders. Are they? Yeah. My sister's in Aries. She needs to tap into that. Oh, is she not a confident leader? No, but maybe she could be. Oh, your sister's in the show, right?

Yes. Yeah. I'm trying to make my sister a leader. I'm like trying to give her all the tools. I think that's the hardest part is when you believe in somebody so much and they maybe not, and I'm not saying this is your sister because I actually don't know, but when they don't believe in themselves as much as you believe and you're like,

no, go. And they're like, fly, prosper. Spread your wings. Yeah, yeah. I feel that. Okay, I'm really, I actually really like the idea of you being comfortable with this being your last life. And I, you just made me feel comfortable.

Oh. About that too. Like, if this is my last one. It's a good one. Yeah, it's a really good one. Yeah, because where would you go from here? You're building... I could rule the world.

Would you want to? Yes. Really? Okay, then maybe you have one license... Because you're, like, close. And I think in your next life, you could rule the world. I believe this. We do need a world government.

It's you. You know what I mean? Yeah. So... You could do it. Thanks. Maybe in this lifetime. I don't know.

The year 3,000... 38. Oh. I don't know when do new lives come. I actually have no idea. Do they wait around? I'm such a fraud in this world. Like I act like I know so much about, um, well, I don't think anyone really knows about

past lives. I had a woman on the podcast who knows a lot about past lives. She's either, she could be completely full of shit though. Totally. But she did say I was shot in a past life in this part of my back and I always wake up with a pain in that part of my back and I didn't tell her that. And in every dream, I probably dream four nights a week. that I get shot. So maybe she does know shit about it.

Wait, that's crazy. Also, you just reminded me of something. Remember when you were on the Bachelorette and you talked about your bird tattoos, but you also have a fear of birds? That's, I'm such a fraud. I'm so confusing. That I remember in real time being like, this is hysterical. She is bad shit crazy. She is scared of birds and she got bird tattooing tattoos. Do you still have them? Yeah, I do. Oh yeah. I do. Or the bird tattoos. Yeah, they're there. Yeah, they're definitely still there. I was walking through.

This is, that is, there's pros and cons of New York City and a big con for me is the birds. And I was, I get it. I was walking. They smell fear too. I, I agree with you. Yeah. And I was walking through the streets the other day home from the gym. And I looked up and it was like, I wish people could experience just to know like I'm not

dramatic. This is a genuine fear that went, like, a hot flash went from my head to my toes. My heart started racing. And people were like just walking through like it was nothing. And they're making the. flap and all of a sudden they all came at me and I pulled out my camera because I was like people have to see this and I was like I'm going to be brave and walk through this no I seriously had diarrhea when I got home I don't listen I get the bird fear what I don't get is why you tattooed them oh me either

I was drunk I was very drunk okay um yeah it was a stupid stupid decision I woke up in the morning and I was like oh no and I was like 23 years old and I thought it was cool to get a sailor tattoo like something a sailor would do. Are you serious? No, I used to want a full sailor sleeve and I wanted like a ship wheel on my elbow. Do you have anything to do with sailing? Nope. Maybe in a past life and I wanted it to say like a pirate's life for me. Are you? No, I'm dead serious. I mean, I love pirates. Me too. I used to have like ships with my background on my computer. I just had like an obsession with like sailors and pirates and that aesthetic. No, I'm serious. And I- Oh my God. Okay, first of all,

definitely past life something. Something. That is so niche. I was a pirate in my past life. That's so specific. Pirates are hot also. And if are they? Well, to me.

I mean, Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom, but like, the rest of them were. But that's how I picture pirates. Okay. Yeah, I don't, I refuse to believe they look anything other than that. Yeah, I guess you're right. But if I would have got that full sleeve, I would have never gotten on the Bachelorette. And something told me to stop at the birds.

I'm really happy I did But that's why they're there Oh my God I can't believe the ship thing That's so interesting It's weird right I should have that woman back on And see if she knows anything about my past pirate life

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Where? I wouldn't ever, like, fully leave L.A., though. Okay. My heart is in Los Angeles. I would love to, like, live part-time in Italy. Oh, yeah? I also, I love New York. Oh, I love it, too.

I would love to live, like, part-time here. I could never leave L.A., though. I get that. I would want part-time Montana. Like, I want a ranch. Oh, God, I'd be so bored. Oh, I love being bored, though. But then I would have to go do stuff.

come back to the ranch. Well, I would want to, like, feed my horses. Oh, boring. Really? Yeah, animals. Boring. What? Oh, my God.

I would know. That's, like, my dream. Having to get up early and feed animals. Yeah, but then you go back for a nap. I don't know. I just like once I'm up, I'm up. No, not me. I can go back to bed, no problem.

Quit social media. Fortunately, I can't. But would you ever? If you had the choice. If I became grossly wealthy. Yeah. You wouldn't see me on social media. Really?

Yes. If I got everything I wanted, social media no more. Nothing. Like, you're not hearing from me. Yeah, I think I'd be the same way. I would just like want to go travel the world with my family. Yeah, that's fair. And live life.

That's very fair. Although maybe I would, you know what, you say that? We say that. I know. Maybe I'd be like, I miss the attention. I definitely would. I would be like, why are people not hating me anymore? Yeah.

Would you ever direct a reality show? You can't really direct produce. I don't know. Well, I kind of are. Yeah, okay. And I would like to produce more. You would? Yes.

Can you make me a show? Let's talk about that. Okay. Okay. Last question. Would you ever retire from TV completely? I know if you were rich, whatever, but you are rich, but. Or do you want to do this forever?

God, I don't know. I love it. That's great. It's really fun. Do you ever sit back and just realize? like you're doing everything you love to do. I've cried a lot this past weekend. Good.

Yeah. I, and I, and I do, that thought crosses my mind multiple times a day. Like when I'm like driving back from like dropping like my son off at preschool or something and I'm just like driving up to my house and I'm like, I know that like the rest of my day I'm doing things that I love. I'm like, wow, I'm really lucky. Yeah. Like how the, how did I manage to make this all happen?

Like I, I'm very. grateful all the time. That's amazing. And then I feel like this is who you are. It's a good thing. When you accomplish things, do you sit in the accomplishment or do you go, what's next? I say what's next. Yeah. Yeah, that's okay. I wish I didn't. I'm trying to teach myself. You're kind of doing both. Because you are being grateful and you're being emotional and you're here and you're doing all the stuff. And you're like, what's next? What's next? Yeah. It's always what's next, which is unfortunate, but I'm a Capricorn rising. I love Capricorns.

Me too. Yeah, I really do. Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much for coming here. Thank you. This is so fun. This is really fun. So by the time this comes out, the show will be out, right?

Yeah. Okay, so obviously everybody's going to watch it, but on Hulu. Yeah, but if you haven't watched it now, bitch. On Hulu. And obviously, everyone already knows, but where can they find, like, your podcast, you, all the things? At Stasi Schroeder, everyone. where my podcast, you can watch it on Netflix, Stasi with Tay. Oh, that's cool.

Listen everywhere. And I have a Patreon.com slash Stasi. And me and my husband's podcast is. That's great. I love that. Well, thank you so much. This was so fun. Thank you.

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