Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Taylor Strecker | Real Talk on Discovering Her True Self & Finding Love!

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

#772. This week, Kaitlyn is joined by podcast queen Taylor Strecker for a candid and hilarious conversation. Taylor opens up about her two-decade journey in the radio industry, including getting fired from Sirius XM and finding her way back on air with her own podcast. She talks about life’s biggest twists, from her marriage to a man (aka her "wasband") to falling in love with her wife, sharing the challenges and revelations that came along the way. Taylor also spills the tea on what it's really like having famous friends and offers up a personal confession that she's never shared before. Get ready for laughs, heartfelt moments, and an unforgettable confession involving pee (yes, you read that right)! If you’re LOVING this podcast, please follow and leave a rating and review below! PLUS, FOLLOW OUR PODCAST INSTAGRAM HERE! Thank you to our Sponsors! Check out these deals! Boll & Branch: Enjoy 15% off plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at BollAndBranch.com with promo code VINE15. Botanic Tonics: Go to botanictonics.com and use the code VINE at checkout for $40 off a 12-pack case. Dime Beauty: Love your skin again! Go to DIMEBeautyCO.com to unlock your discount! Nutrafol: For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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But like, I, no, don't say but after you say you receive it, you say and. Sorry, but doesn't count. So I guess I receive it, but also. You receive it and? I receive it and I, it makes me laugh because I really do feel like I'm like tricking the world or pulling the wool over everybody's eyes. And that's what we like to call imposter syndrome. I suffer deeply, deeply from imposter syndrome.

I too am a victim of imposter syndrome. I mean, how long have you been in the radio business? Okay, so I got in in 2000, I'm going to age myself. Over a decade. So 2006. Yeah. Wow. I know.

And it was my, it was my second job right out of college. So I had literally was like fresh out of college. And I worked in advertising for like six months. And then I got this gig at Series XM Radio. And so, yeah, since 2006. So what's at like almost 20 years? What are your thoughts then on the world of podcasting? Because you have one, obviously.

Yes. But I remember Howard Stern. being pissed about podcasting and thinking like, you know, because you work so hard and it's like a, it's, you have to really be in with an industry and it's a male-dominated world and it's this and it's a, and then podcasting comes about and then I feel like radio hosts have been like, what the fuck, everybody can have one. Totally. What is your thought on it? Okay, a couple things. So I will say that, okay, so I actually got fired from Sirius in 2015-ish, 2000- For what? Maybe even later. To this day, I still honestly don't know. It was like, I definitely

breached contract because when the lawyer who I never met, call me on a Saturday to fire me, she said, I said, is there anything I can do? Like, I was doing like an outside job, like, like a retreat, if you will, like a listener retreat. And everybody at Sirius had outside gigs, so they don't pay dick. So we had to supplement our income. And they would say, like, use the platform to make money outside of it. Whatever. So I had done these before. So that was the thing. So that's why I was like, wait, what about this one? Anyway, something about the language, something about the way that maybe it was who I was working with because there was a woman I was working with who had previously worked at Sirius and was my boss and left, who knows why. There was something that I did with this trip that like pissed somebody off. But they fired me for like, it was like red tape, like fine print of the contract. But the woman said to me, I said, what can I do? Like I'll cancel the trip. I've been here for like, almost 12 years. Like, please, I'm a rule follower. No. I was begging. Wow. And she said, the next time you should read your contract. And I was like, you're a bitch and I don't even

know you. Yeah. Have you ever spelled C-U-N-T? Literally. No, that was crazy. It was so heartless. You know, I don't envy, I think there's two times people. People that have to fire people and they like hate it and they're like sold eyes. And then there's like sociopaths that actually get off on it. She was one of them. I've met both kinds, and you're right. There are, it's a power trip. Totally. It's an actual power trip, and that's what makes them feel big and strong and important.

Yeah, she felt big that day. I hate it. I wish nothing but bad things. Yeah. Yeah. I, oh my gosh. The amount of time, so I, I'm a little bit crazy with woo-woo witchy shit. Okay, yeah.

And the amount of times I've wanted to put curses on. on people because I do think I have that power. The ability to? I do. But I can't because I'm so scared of karma. Totally. I'm actually scared that I just said I wish bad things for her. I just did it to myself.

But maybe you just said it but really deep down. You don't mean that, but you were just saying it. I take it back universe, please. No, but I totally get that. I know. I'm the same way, though. If you could, for real, put a curse on somebody. Like, how many people on this planet would you curse?

Three. Oh my God, L.O.L. I think, so one of mine is married to the other. So can I just do one because it would probably... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I feel like he, I just, I lump him into my feelings towards her because they're married. Yeah, that's fair. But so two, technically one.

Okay, that's a small list. Isn't that good? That's really good. Yeah. Especially because you've been through some shit. True. And you've seen stuff. Yes.

You've gone through it. So you know, so two, but technically, wait, one? Two, but technically one. they're married. And I don't think I would have any animosity towards him if it wasn't for her. Huh. So one. Interesting. Yeah, I've got three. And I would just wish, like, I just want them to, like, break a bone. I know, like a mild bad thing. Yeah. Like, but, like, break a bone and lose your job, maybe. I feel that. Something that will humble them, you know? They need to be humbled. Yeah. that's the thing. I get it. I am really attracted to people who are self-deprecating. I think that is a very

beautiful quality in somebody, but like not too much. Like, it's a fine line. But power trippers, people who are manipulative and people who think they are smarter than you and use that as like a car salesman vibes and make you feel stupid and less than. Those are the ones. I hate, well, so I'm like traumatized by mean girls just from like growing up. up. Yeah. But I'm okay if you're a mean girl and you're like, you're self-aware and you own it. Because like also mean girls can, they can evolve. They can become nice girls. You're right. I'm sure to somebody I was the mean girl. You know what I mean? But like if you can't admit that, like you have to be able to see that you can do that. I can't stand a mean girl who parades

around as a nice girl. Yeah. That is my Achilles heel. God, I know a few of those. Yeah. That's, you know, it's so embarrassing. We were kind of talking off. offline about, like, regrets in life and not having many. Yeah. I thought of another one. I was a mean girl for about 20 minutes in junior high school. I remember there was a girl who all of my friends told me were talking about me, and they were like, push her into a locker. And I did.

I pushed this poor girl into a locker. That is, like, 1980s bully style. That's vintage bully. I think of what it was probably in the 90s. Oh, my God. It was probably 1999. Yeah. And I pushed a girl into her locker and I felt sick to my stomach after.

And I was like, she didn't even do anything. Like, I think they were just trying to start stuff. And I met my boyfriends at the time. And my parents call his parents. And they go, can we talk to Caitlin? And I pick up the phone and they say, we're taking you to the police station. Somebody has filed like something against you for bullying. And I was like, oh, God.

And I had to go into the police station, write a statement. Shut up. Swear to God. Ew. Snitches get stitches. Well, I wonder where she is today. But I'm sorry, but that's very loser. Like, she is a victim.

And we don't victim shame. But, like, girl, you got pushed into a locker. Like, take it on the chin. And I was, like, the police. I was probably 50 pounds soaking wet at the time. And, like, probably was like, meh. Like, I don't condemn. on bullying and I regret that but like the police that that's a little bit much girl settle down take a knee

take a knee that was yeah but but I will tell you I was like I'll never bully anyone again and then and now I get bullied all the time now I just have bullies I actually was mean to one girl who was she was just like you know I think I was 22 and had a boyfriend who left me and went back to her and I probably said some mean shit, but like, I'm 39 now. I just take, now the bullies just come after me and I go, oh, they're not therapy. Who hurt you? Oh, you can tell a million miles away. And I know hurt people, hurt people, but also like, yeah, I'm hurt too.

And I'm not running around being a dick. So like, come on. That's the thing. To some point. To some point. And I'm also, I have been hurting and I'll take it out on my like relationship or a friend or a parent or something, but not like. Yeah, somebody I really love. Those are the people I will take it out on. I will more, I will take it out on the people who mean most of me, okay? Not a stranger on the

internet. Like a sociopath. Yeah. Like chicken or egg? Did trolls always exist and they just like tortured people in their small community? Yeah. Or like did the internet bring this like nasty ugly side out of people? It was always there. Always. There's always, it starts at such a young age too. It breaks my heart because I see like a niece or nephew get. bullied and I'm like, but then I go, God, that's, that poor kid is not having the childhood they deserve because their parents are, and it's like, then, and then you get scared that it's never going to end because there's always going to be, you know, unfortunate, mentally ill people who have children and pass on beliefs. Totally. It's, it's scary. It's a scary world out there

that we all of it. All of it, including the radio world. God. Especially, especially, oh, so I didn't answer your question. So podcasting. So sorry. Also ADHD. Oh, girl. I mean, that is the fuel that runs this body is ADHD. It's a blessing and a curse. It really is. We couldn't do this job without it. No, absolutely not. But life is a struggle. All the time. Fine. We go on another tangent and forget the question again. Oh, probably. That's the story of my life. So I was, I was, so podcasting kind of was like just a thing. And so one of my best friends since, I mean, forever at this point, Stossi Schroeder. Oh, yeah.

She was one of the first people, especially reality people, to podcast. So I was watching her podcast. I, like, so do you remember her ex that was on the show? I never watched the show, so I didn't know who her ex was. So we don't say his name anymore. Oh, I love that. But he, like, you don't talk about Bruno, exactly. But that's how I actually met her was through him.

Okay. So anyway, so him and I kind of encouraged her to get into radio because she was just so gifted it. Totally. Yeah, yeah. But I remember I got really, I started to get, like, jealous because she had this podcast, and I was like, you work once a day for 45 minutes. Yeah. I am literally on air at the ass crack of dawn, Monday through Friday.

I am like, I mean, I can't leave the studio. Like, I can't travel. I can't do anything. I can't do outside projects. And I'm on the air for four hours straight. And I'm making a fraction of the price. And not to say that I was going to make what she made, but it started to peak my interest watching her do it. So when I got fired, I freaked.

And I immediately called her and said, I need to meet me with your podcast company. So I have been a fan of podcasting because it actually saved my ass. Okay. That's a good perspective because you realized that you had the talent. Yes. You also have the gifts of Gab. You had grinded so you know the industry. You're going to be good at it.

Yep. And it kind of like came in at the right time for you. And also, and I'm sure you can relate to this being in television, but like it's interesting. Studios. So the industry, because of the internet, and there's a bad part. parts of the internet. But the good part is that it's like this independence and autonomy from like the middle man. And so before podcasting, it was like there was only so many slots on radio. There was only so many stations. So like management really had the upper hand. And now you can

kind of see like off to the man. Because you don't need the man. It's you, your audience. And that's all you need to kind of get the job done. So I see I see the positives of podcasting. But yeah, I mean, for a while, I was like the only game in town. And that was a flex. Yeah. But it's smoke and mirrors, if I'm being honest. Of course it is. I mean, most industries are, if we are being completely honest. Look at corporate America. Look at so many things. Look at Instagram. Totally. It's all smoke and mirrors. It's all nobody, I overshare everything and nobody will know the depths of my soul, like people who actually surround themselves, who I actually

spend time with, you know? Like, no matter how much you think you know me on the podcast online, there's still so many different sides of me that people don't know and see every day. Yeah. And I just think so many, so many industries are like that. Totally. Yeah. Totally. That's one of my best friends in the whole world has been in the radio game for a very long time in Canada. And I've just heard stories after stories. It, radio is, for being pregnant. Oh, radio is the patriarchy. Yeah. Yeah. Period. End of story. So I would have never left. I'm so happy I got fired.

No regrets. Totally. Because I would have never had the balls to do it myself. Yeah. And so how long have you had your Taste of Taylor podcast? So Taste of Taylor. So when I left, when I loved serious, when they fired me, I started my own, like, kind of subscription-based radio show, which now lives on Patreon.

Cool. So that's a Taylor Shrucker show. And that's Monday through Friday. It's like it's really radio. There's like segments and rotation of podcasts, like a regular. cast kind of. And then Taste of Taylor started to kind of recapture the interview part of my radio show, The Daily Show, that I didn't have on series anymore. So that's been around for like six years, I think. And people love you because you, you're my cup of tea. I like when people are just

straight up. You say what you're thinking. Thank you. You are unapologetic. You're just trying to like show up authentically. And I feel like the world needs more of people like you. Thank you. Yeah. Not too many because then, though, I won't be special. Oh, my God. You're me. You are me. I am not mentally okay. Are you a horror on the anagram? That is so crazy. You just said that I just had dinner last night with my dentist. Go on. Who, you got to meet Dr. Fis. She's a vibe. Okay. The best. And she's all into like numerology and stuff like this and like Rakey, like, oh, like, like woo, wellness. Yes. And she was asking us this, me and my wife. And I'm a nine. She was a nine. And my wife was a nine. And my wife was It's it. You're a nine? Yeah, I guess, wait. How do we do it? I don't think you're a nine.

Thank you. I don't even know. I've met you for about 20 minutes and I'm like, you're not a nine. Wait, so what would be? I think you're a three and a four. Okay, tell me about that. So a nine is kind of like, no. Lose their energy. No, no, nines just don't know themselves that well. Hmm. Me. I could see a world in which. a wing, a nine wing. Okay. Okay. How do you get there?

You add up your birthday? No, that's numerology. Oh, so maybe I'm wrong. Like, maybe I'm way off base. Maybe you're a nine on numerology with your birth, like your life path number. Okay. Okay. I don't know enough to like sit here and tell you what a like that number.

No, you do. 20 minutes is all you need. But on the eneogram, I would think you're a three with a four wing, which is very similar to me, which is like you're a hard worker, you're a go-getter, you're a little competitive. You know, you'd be surprised. I'm actually like not. I like, I am, but I'm not. But that's where your four wing comes in. You need to feel unique. You need to feel special. You know you are. Yes. So like the competitiveness is more like, how are those people getting that when I'm better at them? You know what's crazy? I famously say that I am a professional social climber. Okay. Okay. And like my like best friends are like some of like the biggest people in the game.

And I, I think it's been being friends with them. I've been, like, forced to, okay, like, really be comfortable not being number one. Right. Which I think is one of my favorite qualities about myself, and it's a learned thing. Because when I wasn't serious, it was wake up with Taylor. I was, it was me. It was my show, and, like, I would have, like, producers or co-hosts, but I was the host. Yeah, yeah.

And I remember having work with people who, like, would kind of, like, be, have their nose at a joint. that, like, they weren't, like, that they were side-kicking or whatever. And I was like, what the fuck? Just be, like, number two ain't so bad. And so my dad would always say, who's the old guy that did a late-night show? Johnny Carson was the guy. And Ed McMahon was his second. And then when Johnny Carson retired, Ed McMahon took his spot.

Right. And so my dad was like, you know, being number two ain't so bad sometimes. And I was like, hmm, but he would say it to me as number one. So then when I'd find myself in a two spot, I was like, enjoy the two girl. Because sometimes the two, like, if I get mad at somebody for being mad at being number two, I can't get mad at being number two. And so I kind of like taught myself to like that. And honestly, being number two is kind of the best.

Ooh, okay. I'm less pressure. Not the same shine, but less, but you know, but you're still. Yeah, but sometimes the shine is too much. Correct. Yeah. Because people always want to go after the number one. They want to see the number one fall and they want to see the number two go to number one.

Everyone's rooting for number two and waiting for the downfall of number one. Oh, my God, you're right. That sinister, that's not how I meant to say it, but, but yes. Oh, interesting. So I've had to, like, I've had to, like, combat my competitive drive. Yeah. And I, and I like it, because people even say to me, like, isn't it hard, like, this best friend and that best friend? And you know what?

It is difficult when, okay, so Stasi, I met when she was on Vayner Pump Roll. Yeah. What else? Like, so that was just always, like, I was like, like, we go to fashion. I'd be like, I'll sit in the second row. I'm at least up here. I'm gonna shit. I think checking ego is very important.

Yeah, I mean, so I checked it. Yeah. Then Claudia Oshry. Yeah. I met her when she was girl with no job. So, like, a sensation. Yeah, I love. And I'm like, I really like, I'm just so, like, in awe of the two of them.

You know what I mean? So, and my third, Hannah Burner. Oh, bless. Okay. She is my church. Hannah, I met Hannah because she was, she came as a co-host. on my show. Yeah.

And this one, Hannah was like working at Petsches and like before she was on Summer House. So I have watched Hannah just

I love that. And I love her so much. Thank God I love her so much because if I didn't I wouldn't hate her. A hundred percent. There's no way of hating that person though.

She is a baby angel of this earth. I die for Hannah. Yeah. So, but like I definitely I guess like, yes,

when someone blows fast you, you're like, what am I doing wrong? Yeah. But you're also surrounding yourself with pretty incredible. Like they, they blow past, but also, like, are still humble queens. Total humble queens. Yeah. Yep. So that's, I think that's the key is it's who you just surround yourself with. It's, yeah. Because then you're more inspired and want to collab instead

to compete. That's the thing. People always say to me, like, lots of people say, like, isn't it hard having such famous friends? And I'm like, I mean, no, it actually, you know. It's kind of fun because you get to like reap the benefits and learn and be surrounded with these incredible women. And inspired and it's the best. What I think would be hard in your world is being in that radio bubble, you know, with being probably held into what you're supposed to be, who you should be, which I feel like you've probably dealt with a lot in your life being, you know, you're married and then to a man. To a man. To a woman. Yep. And you've probably dealt a lot with. what's actually hard in life, not the, you know?

Yes. And maybe that changes your perspective, too. That's probably it too, perspective for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So tell me about that. So you, do we name him or we? We call him a wasband.

Oh, wasbend. Yes. Okay, the husband that was. So, but poor wasbant. No, wasbend. I really. Did you, did you know like your, because some people know and some people are like, oh, it actually took me going through that relationship to fully.

know. Like, what was your experience? So I totally was, I had no idea that I even could have any inclination towards women whatsoever. But if you go back and look, I also was like super not into dick. You're right. Yeah, fair enough. I was, I dated guys. Maybe I'm asexual. That's how I got for a minute, yeah. Literally. I was like, I'm an asexual queen. Yeah. So I was just like, who likes sex, nobody, who likes penises, nobody. If you say you do, you're lying. And I'm I, that was my, like, to my core, my truth. I still believe that. I still believe it, too. I still believe it too. I really, I personally love the peen. Can you explain to me how you love the pee? Okay, okay, yeah. And to be fair,

all of the human bits are kind of like, ew. Yeah, that we, well, because we've made them be, you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess, okay, I like get so embarrassed talking about, I don't get embarrassed talking about sexuality. Yeah. I don't, I will talk about everything. What do you bear's talking about sex itself really oh my god it makes me so like i want to just like die oh okay i'm catholic okay i think that's what it is and maybe that's to blame for me not realizing i was a lesbian sure or whatever the hell i am i don't even know like if people just had this conversation with amanda not skinny not fat i love amanda i just did her podcast i know she texted me oh yeah she's oh yeah she was saying she was saying the same thing i'm like because i went through a phase of my 20s where

I was like, I'm into women. I'm only into women. No way. Yes, and I... Did you like date women? I secretly hooked up with women. Oh my God, you're my wife. Really?

Was she the same? Oh, my God, because she was, she played lacrosse at GW. Yeah. And so she was like, oh, what is it? Gay until graduation day? There's like a lesbian loophole, allegedly. Really? And so it's like, oh, well, you can hook up with girls in college.

And then afterwards, you're like straight if you... But she's totally a lesbian. But I'm like, how do you, I don't like labels and I don't like, because then I also am like, well, if I am seeing myself with a man, I can't say I'm bisexual. I don't want to offend bisexual community. I totally understand what you're saying. Yeah. So I just was like, oh, I went through. I don't know if it's a phase. I don't know. I'm a, I totally see how women are attracted to women. Totally get it. Was still am, but I see myself marrying a man. So I really, I remember my college roommate. would like talk about the spectrum with me. And I was like, shut up, Nicole. You know what I mean? Like, it bugged me. Probably because I was like internally fighting something.

But the way I so believe in the spectrum, I think very few people are like 100% straight or 100% gay. I think most people float around, but maybe they just... Isn't there an actual chart name for this? Yes. The purest scale, it's, I forget what it's called. I forget what it's called too. But it's definitely, I believe in it so much because if I'm gay, everyone's gay.

Yeah. Like, the way I, like, if somebody, like, said, your whole life savings, are you gay or are you asexual? I'd be like, asexual. Right. So the fact that, like, I had the sexual awakening in my mid-30s. And, I mean, and I'm gay all the way for Tay. My wife, Tay. Taylor and Taylor.

I know that you guys are both Taylor's. The Taylor's. I love that because I think, again, not to judge the Catholic community, but you are made to believe X plus No, one plus one equals two X. Whatever. I made to believe gay people go to hell.

Yes. And what I mean by that is you were made to believe that if you were gay, that was wrong. Yeah. I mean, it's just like my therapist at the time when I was like coming out, I was like, there's this girl and I want to kiss her and I'm in the middle of a separation

and like, what am I doing? Have I lost my mind? Yeah. And he was like, no, I think you are, you've always been gay. Yeah. And because of your Catholicism background and growing up so religious and rigid,

Like you couldn't even let yourself go there. And the thing too was, I was like so, I was such an ally. Do you know what I mean? I feel like I was a better ally as a stray person than I am as a gay person. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense, though, if you really deep dive into that. Right. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

So what is your relationship like now with religion? Non-existent. Okay. I always will identify as Catholic. Yeah. I'm also obsessed with Judaism. Like, I'm obsessed with Jewish people. But, like, if I were to, like, believe in religion, I think I would convert to Judaism,

truthfully. Yeah. it's like a part, it's like a significant sliver of my pie chart because it, like, made me who I am today. Yeah. But, like, and I celebrate Christmas. Yeah. Easter's confusing. Like, really? Like, really? I'm, like, at Easter, I just grew up with it getting chocolate. Like, I didn't even. And actually, I went to Catholic school. What am I talking about? But I, like, girl, I taught CCD. Like, I really should know better. But I just can't. Yeah. That's fair, though. But, like, I don't go to church. Yeah. And my parents, like, my dad, like, converted to Catholicism from being Protestant. Whatever. Live your best, sir. Yeah. But they go to church every single Sunday. And are they accepting of everything? Totally. Love. They're the best. Right. Okay. They're amazing. That's always nice because I think support system is just everything. Like, yeah. If you feel, like, loved and celebrated and supported, then, you know, religion, politics, whatever it is, if you feel loved and supported. So true. That's truly all that matters.

Okay, let's talk. How long were you married for before having, oh, that's what I was going to say is the 30s. I feel like, oh, yeah. It's like you really start to come into your own. So that's why, you know, even my niece who's 16, I'm like, you're with the same guy for two years already. at 16, I'm like, I know, 20s. People are just like that, but maybe not make important decisions in your 20s.

Right. I mean, I had no clue who I was in my 20s. But I feel like my niece at 16 knows more of who she is. And that's true, too. It's case by case. It's case by case. Totally. And I also think regionally it makes a difference.

Yeah. I mean, this is like, New York City is the land of Peter Pan. Men and women. The land of Peter Pan. Everybody is like, I don't want to grow up. It's so true. How quickly did you meet your now wife? So I was married to wasband.

Okay. So we were together for eight years total. Dated a year and a half, engaged a year and a half, and married for almost five. Wow. That's a lot of time. That's a lot of time. I tried to postpone the wedding in the middle of planning it. Yeah.

And I knew. I knew better than to get married, but I was young. And I had a radio show and all we do was talk about the wedding. And I also didn't want to break up with him. Yeah. And so I knew that if we, like, called the wedding off, that that, that, like, what do you even do when you call off a wedding? Like, you can't stay together. Yeah, we, that's, it happened to me. Yeah, right? I was like, this clearly isn't right if you

have to call off a wedding. But again, I actually just talked to a girlfriend two days ago who called off a wedding and now they're happily married. So again, case by case. Okay, that's a good one. And maybe when you call it off, it forced you to, like, look at the hard facts. Totally. And deal with that. Yeah. Not our case. Right. So, um, we were unhappily married for the entire duration of our marriage, you know. And it was, and he had no idea. He, he, he, he, knew that I was unhappy. We were like in and out of therapy and I mean, I was lay miserab Baytime. But so I would say I'm like somebody who breaks up in relationships. Yeah. So I would say, I mean, I tried to call off the wedding. So I think I was probably on and again off again

trying to break up. Yeah. Like in between vacations and like buying an apartment in the city. Like the fun stuff kind of kept us afloat. Yeah. And then I met with a lawyer like months and months before I was able to even pull the trigger. Wow. And I had to think long and hard about it. And I also had to, like, pull all the pre-up. Yeah. And, like, also, like, look at my finances and say, like, what can I afford realistically? And so it was a long time coming. So by the time we were officially separated and then, like, working towards divorce, I knew it was coming. So I was like, I need to spend time with people who are my friends, not our friends. Because our worlds were so enmeshed. And he's, like,

from the city. So I was like, I need to, like, find my own people. Where are you from? Outside of Boston. Okay. So I was like kind of creating my own like new like girl crew. Yeah. And one of those people was my now wife Taylor. And so we were spending like a ton of time together. And I didn't know she was getting first met. I was like trying to set her up with like a million guys. Then she came out to me. And actually she came out to me when we were in Miami for New Year's Eve. I was still married to husband. And yeah. And I knew that she was but I was sworn to secrecy. So I did like, oh my God, I had no idea. And I really didn't for a while. Right. But. But. That night, this is so scandalous. I love it. I feel like nobody's going to believe me, but like, whatever, it's the truth. She literally stayed in my apartment, I'm sorry, in my hotel room with my husband on like a couch. It's like this size at the foot of the bed in our hotel room.

Uh-uh. And was one that invited her to stay with us. Uh-uh. Literally nothing happened. There was like zero sexuality. Was he inviting her to maybe see something that was going to happen or just out of your kind of sense? I'm going to bet all my money that no.

He was like, that was not his vibe. He's like zero creole vibes. You know what I mean? I think he's just like a really nice guy. And also we were like famously incapable of being just the two of us. We had to have other people to distract us. So I think he was like, oh, this is her new friend. Like she'll spend the night with us because she was nannying in like Jupiter, Florida.

Okay. So he casually was like, oh, what are you doing for New Year's? I'm in Florida. We're in Florida. What are you doing? Oh, I don't know. I'm not going to nanny, but I'll probably just like, whatever, around Jupiter by myself. He's like, just come stay with us.

I'm like. Got it. Meanwhile, I'm like, what are you doing? Leave her. She's my new friend. Get the fuck out of here. So she comes out to me. And then I would say, God, like, I will say this. Even that night that we were like together, all of us New Year's Eve. Right. We walked to the bathroom together with a bunch of different girls. And we were all like holding hands because it was like a mob. And there was a moment when we held hands that I was like, she has a crush on me. There was like something energetically. Energetically. I was like, oh, that's so cute. But like, no.

Like, L.O.L. No way. And then, but that was that. And then, like, a few months later, after the separation, and I was spending a lot more time with her after that, we were out one night and I was like, I, like, want to kiss her. Wow. And I was like, I can do whatever I want. I'm getting a divorce. I'm in my 30s. I support myself. Yeah. Thanks to this settlement I'm about to get. And, like, I'm an independent woman. And so I was like, we should make out. And she was like, no, you're straight and going through a divorce. And I'm like your only friend as far. as I can see. So I lose interest in people pretty quickly. Yeah. So like I say we just stay friends. And I was like, okay, that's embarrassing. No way. And then like a month or so later, we were together on a work trip. And I swear to God, I'm not Harvey Weinstein. Okay. I booked a hotel room as friends. So I was like, we're two girls who stay in the same bed. Whatever. Yeah. But then after like the makeout, it was like, oh, sorry. Like, it's a king size bed. Is that cool?

And she was like, yes. And then on that trip, she was like, actually, I really like you and a half for a while. The first day I met you, I had a crush on you. But, like, I saw that we were married and, like, whatever. And I let it go. Wow. But it's so, it's so interesting because I always love hearing how people meet. But it's so fascinating to me when people start off is not like this initial, like, instantaneous, not love it for sight, but like flirting banter.

Oh, it's like a casual, like, wait a second. Yeah. Like you said an awakening all. almost, where you're like, oh, oh, I'm feeling, are you? And then it was like, well, you're crazy. No, okay. It was like a slow burn. I know.

And I actually hated her when I first met her. Because she's tall and blonde and thin. And her name's Taylor. Well, so I guess I am competitive. I was like, this bitch. Yes. And now I do. That.

How incredible. And then how to, isn't your anniversary like tomorrow? Oh my God. You're so good. Yes. Yes. It is. Congratulations. Thank you. Three years married. Is that what you say congratulations to people? I think so. It sounds funny. Like you're like, wow, congrats. I mean, girl. And in this economy with the divorce rates as they are? Yeah, it is congratulations. It is congratulations. Thanks. And a beautiful ring. Ready? Yeah. What? Amazon.

Wasband. That's the wasbend ring. Tell me more. Does Wolf know this? I can't believe Wolf has heard We do a million podcasts Okay, so he This is the ring that he proposed to me with It's amazing So anyway, when we were So we get a divorce

And he's like, please keep the ring And I was like, yeah, duh, it's mine Like that's not a gift, bro That's like, that's contractually mine But thank you anyway But I genuinely was like When we get divorced Like I made no money at serious

And I was like I was pretty iffy on what the divorce settlement was going to look like. So, I mean, I signed a very ironclad pre-up. So I was like, I was like I will be poor. And like, so I need to keep all the things like the Chanel bags, the watch, the jewelry, because a bitch might have to pawn this shit. Right. So I kept the ring honestly for like for rent for a year. And then, you know, I was able to pay my rent. Yeah. I didn't have to go to the pawn shop. And then when Tane and I were talking about getting engaged, I, so I was like, we should sell this and use the money to get, because we have to

get two rings now, you know? And like she was nannying at the time and she had like student loans. So I'm like, we are going to have to figure this out together. So I went to go sell it and somebody was like, they offered like me one tenth of the price of it, like the appraisal. And I did not know this, but diamonds lose so much value. Yeah. It's almost like a brand new car. You drive it off the lot and it's like goes down. It sucks. It's terrible. So I was like, okay, so that plan shot to shit. So then I was like, well, maybe you can trade it in. I like called London Jewelers. And I was like, can we trade it in? And they were like, no.

And I was like, it's a quiat diamond. They were like, okay, yes. So we're, like, maybe going to go in and, like, pick two smaller ones and just, like, maybe pay the difference, whatever. And then we were with my now mother-in-law, love her. Shout out to Annie. Amazing. And she was like, you're crazy.

You can't get rid of that diamond. It's gorgeous. And I was like, I know. And she was like, no, Taylor. Like, you wear that in good health. That is your ring. Oh. Just reset it.

And, like, if my mother-in-law is giving me, like, the okay. and my soon-to-be wife's, like, okay with it? Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. So we bought her a new ring and she just reset this ring. Well, I love that because it is a gorgeous ring. Thank you.

So I just like, God, I wonder what was been thanks of all of this. I really do think he's like, never talked to him? No. The last time we talked was about a year after we got divorced. Yeah. I came out on the radio. Yeah. And, but Tay and I were together even before my divorce was final.

Like, so you don't, you have no idea how he feels about anything. So he texted me. Yeah. After I came out on the radio, he said, I heard the news. I'm so happy, you're happy. Oh. Very nice. And he said it takes a lot of guts to do something like that.

Yeah. So that was very nice. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that. I like when people have a platform and want to, like, you know, you're doing it for probably a bunch of reasons, but you're probably proud. So proud of coming out. Yes. Yes, but it was very scary.

I was going to say, because. Things, obviously, we all know, one of my favorite sayings is two things can exist at once. Totally. You can be so proud, but also terrified. Terrified. And also, like, I, so when I came out on the radio, my parents were kind of just coming around. So they are great now. Yeah.

They were not wonderful for, like, the first year or so. Okay. And I had just, so I would guess they weren't great for a year. Yeah. They were just, they had just met Taylor's family. Yeah. And I didn't tell them I was going to do it because I knew they tried to. talk me out of coming out on the radio. And then it was kind of like, and now we're back in a bad

swing. So that's, I think I was probably the most upset or freaked out after I came out. Like I wanted to do it and then I did it and I freaked out and burst in tears. And I was like, that was a huge mistake. I shouldn't have done that. But I had to do it because of my audience. Yeah. And I love them so much. And they know me so well. And I was like, my authenticity is my thing. And if I keep a secret like this from them for too long, they're going to lose their faith. in me. So I had to do it for them. But then I also love them because they hold me accountable to myself. So I do not regret the timing. I think it was the right time to do it, but it was the scariest thing I've ever done. Way scarier than getting a divorce. Really? Way scarier. Yeah.

I mean, exposed feels like the wrong word, but you're so vulnerable and you're exposing a part of you that you didn't even know for so long. Exactly. So it's very, yeah, that's scary. And we live in a crazy world. I mean, I definitely got emails and, because this is like kind of just around like the internet revolution, or the social media revolution, I should say. But there are some people that were like, I'm disgusted. You've lied to me for years. You know, I'm not listening to your show anymore. But at the same time, there were people who came out of the woodwork being like, I am from a conservative state, a conservative family, I'm religious, and you are my best friend I've never met. And I want marriage and happiness and kids for you.

So you, like, basically have single-handedly, you coming out, has changed my politics on gay marriage. Yeah. So for every bad one, I would get, like, three of those good ones. So it definitely, I never regretted coming out. Yeah. But it's crazy. Yeah.

The, like, hate people have towards something that does not, should not directly affect their lives. Well, I was talking to these two guys, Zachariah and Jonathan. Do you know who they are? they're also podcasters and they live in New York. You would love them. They're so kind, so funny, so sweet. I would love to social climb them. Thank you. I will happily put them in your lap for you. And they were talking about the hate that they get. They're a couple. And they've been together for four years. They create content together. They podcast together. They do everything together.

I love it. They're the best. And he said, you know, it's interesting. Like the homophobic community, somehow, he goes, I know how algorithm works on social media. And... Preach girl. Yes. I know what you're going to say. So, like, the fact that your algorithm is feeding you all of my gay stuff. You gay.

You're mad for a reason. Yeah. Like, if you don't like gay marriage, then don't you get gay married. Right. That's simple. So you have to, like, hit dogs holler. Yeah. So if you're screaming about gay people, guess what we as gay people know.

You are gay. You're gay. You're gay. Yeah. You're gay is showing. You're gay. It's showing. It's really wild.

I truly, I truly believe that. I think there's so many things like that in life where it's like the angry ones are very obvious about what they're angry about. And that's a lot of trolling on the internet. That's a lot of hate that goes on. Yes. You're so angry about it. Great. You don't have to do it.

You're not gay. So you're not going to do a gay marriage. So why are you so upset about it? Yeah. It is crazy how I've just always grown up, and I think a lot of it is my parents. They are both kind of free-spirited people who believe that people should just be who they are. So that probably I'm very lucky in that way. So I don't want to be like, I don't understand.

Because again, like your parents probably, it was their parents' generation that thought him something. You know what was so crazy? What? They were such allies. Like we have a really good family friend and her uncle transitioned to a woman. and they were like so on board. Really? So on board and so supportive.

So I think when I came out, I think it was, I was like in the midst of a divorce. So my mom really thought that my Taylor was like seducing me and taking advantage of me. And you're most probably grieving something that she thought. Probably. And then I think she also was just like, no, like I've never seen any inclination towards this. So like I think, and she also said to me, girls have been so mean to your whole life. do you think that she's just the first friend that's been nice to you? I was like, that's dark.

To all my friends that came before Taylor, that is shade to you from Bette, my mom. That's funny. She was like, finally, you girl was nice to you. I'm like, mom, I mean, yeah, I've dealt with mean girls, but Jesus Christ. Right. So you, why were you bullied growing up? Why were me? No, I grew up in a really small town.

Okay. So there wasn't like any new blood that ever came in. It was like kindergarten to 12th grade. I actually left in ninth grade. I don't know. Maybe, you know what? Maybe girls are mean and kids are mean. And maybe I'm just very sensitive. I think I'm at a place in my life now where I can like own that. It's, you are such a four. I'm curious to, I wonder if I can Google just really quickly. Do it. Life path number nine. Maybe that's what you are. Okay. Yeah. See, I think your life path is nine. Um, compassionate,

generous, understanding, creative. Yep. Um, flexible, open minded. Very, very. A strong sense of creativity. Yes. Okay. So now let me read to you. Enneagram 4. Because this is what I'm an enneagram for, the individualist. Expressive, dramatic, temperamental, self-absorbed, but not in a bad way.

Okay. Okay. Yes, I'm very self-hugged. Well, I can be too, and I don't think it has to be like a negative thing. It's your basic fear is that you have no identity or personal significance. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Your basic desire is to find yourself and your significance, like create an identity for yourself. Absolutely. And eagram 4 with the 3-wing, the aristocrat. Okay, that's what I think you are. Okay. Okay. Is it a aristocrat? Does that mean I'm like giving rich energy?

Like healthy fours are honest with themselves. They own all their feelings. They can look at their motives. Yes. Emotional conflicts without denying or whitewashing them. They may not necessarily like what they discover, but they don't try and rationalize their states, nor do they hide from themselves or others. Yes.

Healthy fours are willing to reveal highly personal and potentially shameful things about themselves because they're determined to understand the truth, your experience. Yep. You have emotional history. This is so me and so you. You can process painful experiences knowing you're sensitive,

but like you can process. Yeah, but I can like, there's like a self-awareness to that. I don't wonder sometimes like even when I look back and like, my marriage to husband. Like, sometimes I'm like, wait, like, did what happen really happen? What do you mean? Like, it was my interpretation accurate? I do trust myself and I do think I can see, like, my role and then the other person's role and stuff. Yeah, yeah. But, like, I remember when I got freshly divorced. Yeah. I went out to lunch with a family member who I had always, like, loved, okay? And she said to me, you know, it's really a shame that you're so.

so sensitive. No. Because if you weren't, like, he's a great guy, and he is a great guy. But he just wasn't my guy. Right. Well, and he wasn't a woman. Right. And there's that.

But she said, I'm sure when I came out, they actually loved it because it probably gave them some sort of like, I don't know, like, at least they gave them some sort of a reason. Yeah. Because God forbid they were the reason. Yeah. Right. Right.

No. That might have been a little bit of the reason. You know what I mean? Whatever. I digress. Yeah. Passed in the past. But she said to me, if you weren't so sensitive, because he's a great guy, you could

have had a really nice life. And it hurt me so much because I'm like, so you're just saying like, I mean, the net, nuts, what? I'm crazy and I overreact. And if I didn't do those things, I could have lived my life. And then I realized it wasn't about me. It was about her. Never is.

And me leaving this family at this young age, right? Because I was in my early 30s. Threatened maybe other people's choices in their lives. So if I'm leaving something that's so great, then, you know, like, what are they doing? And I was able to immediately forgive her because I realized it had nothing to do with me being too sensitive and had everything to do with her questioning maybe her own life choices. If we could all look at the people who criticize us the most and have compassion and forgiveness for that because it always, like, I'm not saying we don't have anything that we need to work on. Right. People can point out all day long things I need to work on and not be like that's fair.

Yeah. But when it's the anger behind it and just that saying alone, you could have had a nice life, I'd rather have a messy and shameful in the public eye life. I would rather people judge, but know my truth and go after that any day of the week. Like that's, I think that's like what we're all here to do is figure out who exactly we are and go for the things that make us feel good. So a nice life, sure, we can all do something that would give us a nice. life on paper. But what are we doing to have like the life we want? Exactly. And also like we lived a nice life, right? We had a $2.5 million apartment and Tribeca. We had all the nice cars, all the nice things. We did. And the more nice good things we did, it was just highlighting how sad I really was. Because I was like, I should not feel this sad in these moments. Like so like, yes, it was a quote unquote nice life, but it wasn't for me. Right. Yeah. It was my life. Yeah. You're like, I did have a nice life. And I'm choosing to have an even better one because

what's nice. So what's nice to you might not be nice to me. Correct. Yeah. Correct. That's, I think that's a really big thing I've realized over the years, too, is like, you're saying that for what you believe. That might not be what I believe and that's okay, too. Like, I don't want your version of nice. Correct. Yeah. But your version of nice shouldn't threaten mine. So why is my version threatening you? Right. Because you're like, well, I could say the same thing to you. but I wouldn't. Right. I was hearing that way about people who say dickhead things.

I'm like, well, I feel the exact same way, but I'd never say it to you. Yeah, I have manners. Yeah. Yeah. One girl commented on my posts the other day. Isn't it crazy when people like seek out your, because your post is literally, that's your, like, think of it like, in literal terms. It's your small business. It's your coffee shop, let's say.

Right. Can you imagine somebody walking a coffee shop and being like, I hate you? And then shutting the door, that's psychotic. It's psychotic. But they would never open the door. They would just go to the Yelp reviews and literally. They'd hold up a sign.

Yeah. They wouldn't say it. Those people are way too afraid of their own. What did they say? Oh, just that my post gave them the ick. And I was like, well, that's fair because your comment gives me the ick. So I guess the feelings mutual. Like, I get it.

And she was like, and then she felt bad. She was like. Oh. Always. They either double down or they feel like. You got it. You got it. You got it.

Yeah. When you immediately fold, I get like a lot of like, I was drunk. And I'm like, me too. Yeah. I, you know what? That excuse will get you ever with me. I'm like, and I am also drunk a lot. So I feel like, when you double down, I, oh my God. Just own your little temper tantrum. I have them all the time. It's fine. It's fine. We can just find comfort in the misery of all having mental breakdowns. My TVs. I was talking to Colton Underwood about it too because he hid for. so long of who he was. So long. And he knew for a long time. So long. And he just kept trying. He was like the definition of religious trying to pray the gay away. Like he, he tried. And it just reminds me that now he is, you know, happily married, having a family, baby on the way.

Do you and your wife ever want a family? So we have two embryos. You do? Yep. And she's going to carry. It's just a matter of when we're going to do the transfer. So if it was up to her, it would have been implanted, like, whatever, a year ago, a year and a half ago, I think we've had them long for. I am like, if my friend was married to a man that said the things that I said, I would be like, divorce. Not that I say, but I'm just like, I'm so selfish and so scared of having that responsibility. So I'm like, I'm looking for any excuse. Like, we might go to Taylor Swift in October. And I'm like, but do you really want to be pregnant? And she's like, shut up. The answer is, yes, she really does.

I'm almost like, we're frozen in time. You get pregnant when you're 50. She's like, will you cut it out? I have my eggs frozen and I try and do that to myself all the time. I'm like, like, three years ago, I was like, and now I'm like, well, I've got my eggs frozen, so I'm good, right? Question mark? The answer is yes.

The answer is absolutely not. See? I told you. I also don't want to be carrying a child like in my, I'm props to anyone who does. I just, I want. I know. Well, I'd like to do it before for you. I don't have to.

Yeah, that's true. She's doing it. Yeah. Even if I retrieve my egg, she'd still say she wanted to carry mine. So she wants to carry. Like, that's like, yeah. Yeah. And you have no desire.

I feel like no. But like I'm a little scared that once we go through it, like my female intuition or like my biological clock is just going to go berserk. Yeah. And I'm going to be like in a panic. I'm hoping not. You might not. I don't want it.

The thing is you never. until, you know, and that's okay. I just don't like regret, right? So this is like the one thing that I feel like you kind of can't, like, you know, at this point, I'm going to, I'm going to be, I'm in my 40s. I can't even say my age. Why? I don't know.

What happens? I can't wait for 40s. Oh, I'm 42 in February. Yeah. Why don't I just say I'm 41? 41. For crying out loud. You know what?

Live your 41's. You're not 42 yet. You're not almost 40. You're 41. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. biology and time. It's against me for childbearing reasons. I mean, I do believe that is true for some

people. I do believe some people feel the biological clock. I do think some people feel the need. I do think some people feel the want. And I think the people who don't think there's something wrong with them when they don't feel that. And it's not wrong. You're right. You don't have to feel anything. You can just feel like content with where you're at and that your wife wants to. I know. I'm just like, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm turned a corner recently and I'm like, I can envision it. Yeah. For a long time, I couldn't even envision it. Yeah. I can envision it, but man, I really like my life. Yeah. I don't want it to change. I don't like change. Change scares me. Change scares the shit out of me as well. That's why I lived in the same house with two, two previous relationships at the same house. And I was like, I shouldn't sell it. This house is like my baby. And then now I moved into my new house and I'm like, burn it. I don't even care about that house anymore. You're scared of change, but when you do it, it's like the best thing that ever happened to you.

But it's the best analogy. It's literally the best thought, too, because that's everything. Anything that's ever scared me that I've done, I've gone, that wasn't so bad. It'd actually change my life for the better. Yeah. So, like, this is scary enough. Your life changes with a baby. It's scary enough.

So you don't have to make it extra scary and feel pressure for yourself. That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yeah, girl, it's scary. Yeah, it's scary. Yeah, it's scary. Change is scary.

And that is a big change. And then you'll do it. it and you'll go, what the fuck is I'm so scared about? This is the best thing that's ever happened to me. I just want to, I'm like, am I going to feel like I'm babysitting all the time? Yeah. I have a very young brother. I think I was traumatized by babysitting him when I was like 12. You are babysitting all the time, but you're going to want to. But you like, yeah, and you don't get paid? Actually, you lose money? What the hell is this? Racket. You are, I can't wait. When it happens, if it happens, I am having you back on and you're like,

I promise. And I'm going to, I'm going to pick up all the. clips and play it for you and you're going to be like, I can't believe. Or if you don't, you know what, you just be honest. Really? On a day once the baby's born. I'm telling you, honesty always wins. You know, I mean, now we've been together for like 40 minutes, so now you do know me. Yeah. You know I won't be able to to not tell the truth. If I'm like in misery. That's literally part of your DNA is in who you are is being honest. And that's, I mean, that's part of why you have what you have and why you have the jobs you have your, you're, People tune in to hear your honesty.

God bless them. God bless them. I want to know your honesty on the Olympics and breakdancing. Oh, girl. Okay. I just want to know your thoughts on it because I'm like, are you like, this is cool, or are you like, what the fuck is happening? What the fuck is happening?

First of all, I love, I have very many weird algorithms on my, on my Instagram. I'm actually very proud of, like, what I've curated. Yes. Um, but breakdancing has been like one of them. Yeah. And I really thought it was going to be like so cool. Yeah. Like so cool.

Yeah. And first of all, I didn't even see the full entire event. I just saw the clips of, um, what, what's her name? Ray Dog. That's what you just saw the clips. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Of Australia's, uh, female breakdancer. Yeah. Um, and she was, it was so bad. It was so bad. Like, like, I like, all the memes that are coming out of it. You didn't have anyone else to send? Yeah. But she is a legend and an icon and a queen for the way she's handling it. Because rather than, like, you know, I mean, Mr. Penis, you saw, hit the pole. Yeah. He really should have leaned in.

Lean in. Dick first. You have to. You have to. Because it's such a great viral moment, but I feel like he's a little bit embarrassed. And so he's not from what I've seen, like, really seizing the moment. And it's like a missed opportunity. And he's living in the Bethos. That's like my word for like, oh, when you feel so weird. Like you do something embarrassing and then like a day later you're like, oh, like you still cringe at it later and you go, oh, God, I did that. Yeah. That's going to be him for like a really long time. Where if he just leaned into it and became part of the joke, it would go so well and then it'd be done. 100%. Yeah. Easier something done, but yes. And I feel like she is leaning in. Yeah. I don't know yet if we are laughing with her or

at her. Because she still confuses me. Okay, do you remember Teen Witch, that movie? Yeah. The best movie in the world? Teen Witch, yes. Top that. I don't really give up about trying to top that. Yes. Oh my God. You just unlocked a memory. I know. Core memory. So I'm going to blow your mind. So first thing, the girl who played Teen Witch, that girl, that is Blake Lively's older sister. No. Who Blake is obsessed with. Oh, did they just do an interview together? Yes. Yes. And so. Yes, I do remember this. This Australian break dancer, she, I saw on TikTok, she like did like a thing. with these other TikTokers, and she, like, did, like, a spoof on top that with her dancing. Incredible.

And so I was like, okay, you get it. You're in on the joke. Like, this is iconic. I love it. We're laughing with her. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it was bad, but because it's so bad, it's so good.

Have you seen all the memes? Like, they're amazing. There's one. It's like, when my dog smells something absolutely foul in the grass and it's just like them, like, rolling around in the grass. And it's just like, there's so many funny things. I'm like, I get mad at myself because I like to think I'm kind of funny and creative. But lately, I've just been like, nothing.

Oh, the internet runs circles around my creativity. The things I see, I mean, every day. I just feel like giving up at this point. Girl, same. I suck at the internet. Same. I'm so bad. I always thought I was so good at the internet.

No way are you bad. I'm so mad. I'm like really so bad. Well, I just, I want, you know how like we see these videos and then you're like, That was so funny, how they came up with that. And then you realized that, oh, they copied it from someone else and they copied it from someone else and they copied it. And it's like, who's the original? I want to be the original.

One of my friends, her, her name's Andrea Lopez. Shout to her. She was Just and Watch What Happens Live. She does amazing impression. Okay. Her first one that got her viral, though, on, like, TikTok on Instagram, was Courtney Kardashian. Okay. So she did this one that was like, it's like 85 degrees out and sunny.

Like, and something, it was very a la Courtney, but it was not Courtney saying it. It was her doing an impression of course. Courtney, it went hella viral. And everybody in their mom is like using this audio. And it's her audio. And she was like, how do I, like, how do I claim it? Yeah. It's like a runaway train. You're right. You can't claim it. Yeah. You just have to. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Right. I think I'd rather, though, be the original and like have that. Have those bragging rights. Yeah. I know. I know. I think about it all the time. But I'm like, God, I just want to be the person that comes up. Like a joke, for example. Yes.

Like, where did that joke start? Where did it originate? And who made it up? I know. I know. But, like, also, like, because sometimes I, like, think of something. I'm like, this is funny. And then I post it.

And I'm like, wait, did I steal it from somebody by mistake? But, like, there's no way creatively we, that you can't subconsciously be, how about we use the word inspired? Yeah. Did you watch the Olympics? I did. My wife, so I probably would not have really watched if it wasn't for my wife. Yeah.

But I am like, I am an abused sport fan through osmosis. Like, I really don't like sport ball. Yeah. But, and she'll, any excuse to, like, subject me to it against my will. Yeah. But nine times out of time, I'm actually grateful because it's, like, very zeitgeisty and monoculture. And I was recently doing a show for my daily show, the Taylor Shrekher show. And my co-host said, I felt like.

like the Olympics was the first time in a long time that everybody was rooting for something positively. Cute. And I'm like, you know what? It really was. Like, I didn't feel like any, like, haterate, even with the Australian break dancer. Yeah, you're right. Like, it was, it felt, like, very positive. Like, nobody, I wasn't rooting against countries.

I was, like, rooting for America. It was more of the opening ceremonies. Everyone was rooting either for or against. But then it, but we made it to. I liked them. I loved them. I loved it. That's, I watched them live.

Yeah, you did. Oh, same. They were so good. Yeah, so good. So good, but, you know, people don't want them. People want to hate. You're right. That was the only thing that later on.

But then it was a nice turnaround because I was like, here we go, Olympics. Everyone's going to fight. No, but people were actually, yeah, you're right. Everyone was rooting for everyone and it felt positive. I will say, too, I saw my sister-in-law sent me a meme, and I love her. And it was basically like me talking about America. It's like, doom and gloom and gloom. loom and whatever. And it's like me talking about America with the Olympics on. And it was like,

this people have a guy being like, I'm a Yankee doodle, Sandy. And I do feel like it was a nice injection of patriotism that I think we could really use ahead of an election. Yeah. You know, so I like, I haven't said, I haven't felt this patriotic pride in a really long time. Yep. And so it was nice to feel it again. Yeah. You know. I was rooting for Canada because I'm Canadian. Oh my God. I like literally forget. Yeah. I'm very Canadian. You know what? Summer.

Summer. What's her name? The swimmer? Oh, yes. Cutest name in the world. Is it like Summer Orchard? It's like the most wholesome name I've ever heard in my entire life. Summer applesauce.

Summer. Peach Fuzz. It's something like that. No, what is it? Summer. She's a swimmer. She's Canadian. Summer Lollipop.

I don't see it. Acetosh? Macintosh! Summer Macintosh. Orchard. I almost had it. Summer Orchard is really pretty, though. Macintosh is even better.

What a cute-ass name. That is a cute-ass name. Love her. I was written for her because her name was cute. Well, I'm rooting for anyone who's Canadian. Okay, so I always end the podcast with my guest confessing something to me. Okay. So I feel like have you been prepped for this?

I actually have. So my wife's my manager. So she's premed this? Yes, yes. very recent. It's awesome. It's amazing. Oh, that's cool. I am prepped, but it's so funny because I didn't even just ask me the question. It's wild how it's like kismic. Go. Okay. What is your confession today? Okay. So embarrassing moment is my confession. Okay. Yes. So like my hardcore listeners know this because I told the story behind the paywall. Okay. But I don't think I've told the story on Tase of Taylor or any podcast publicly. Okay. So we were just talking about how Amanda Hir, she were just on, not skinny, not fat. podcast.

Yeah. And Amanda texted me. She voiced memoed me after. And she was like, oh, my God, you're going to be on Caitlin's. This is so exciting. Blah, blah, blah. I miss you. Blah, la, la.

So my can, but I already had this confession planned. Okay. Okay. So my confession is, I would say six months ago. I, so Amanda was pregnant. So it must have been like six months ago. We had dinner or we had lunch at this like very fancy schmancy upper east side restaurant called St. Ambros.

It's like very like nose up in the air fancy plans. Poit-toity. And I was wearing coveralls. Okay. So, you know, like one piece. Oh, coveralls, not overalls. Coveralls, yes. Like you were just got off a shift at the mechanic shop under the car.

But make it fashion on. Yeah, of course. With like a nonsensable heel. Like, and there was like a grease stain, but it was meant to be there. Correct. It was like a grease stain worth $1,000. Yes, correct. Okay, so I went to the bathroom and I'm a strong peer.

Yeah. Let's put it that way. Yeah. Very, like, strong stream. Yeah. And I got up to put my coveralls on and I had peed. I tinkled all over the back part. Yeah.

So it was like a big, huge pee wet spot on my back. No, what do you do? What do you do? We're in broad daylight. And so I was like, I don't know what to do. Like, do I, like, break the faucet on the sink and, like, pretend that it, like, attacked me in my back? It's a great idea.

Thank you. I was like, what did you do that? What did you do? I just said, you hold your head up high. Yeah. You put on your tinkle coveralls. Yeah. And you walk out of this bathroom.

like you own the world. And I also was like, there's no way someone's going to be like, huge wetspot on her back. She must have to pee. That's true. You know what I mean? But did it smell like pee? Probably. And you know pregnant women have like this like the sense smell of a dog. So anyway, I have, did it have to know this? Never told Amanda the story. Shut up. So I walked into the restaurant and sat down luckily I was like I was sitting against the band cat. Yeah. But then I put my tea night my my t-tee all over this. like blush. Sorry San Ambrosch. But anyway, I didn't, I didn't tell her. And I got home when I told my my wife, and I was like, oh my God, I'm so horrible. That's incredible. No, that's a good one, though.

That's a really good confession. So old tinkleback over here. Tinkle back. But I never told Amanda, but I'm no, I'm going to have to tell her. I couldn't tell her in the moment, because you know Amanda. Like, she is so sassy and snarky. She would have never dropped it. No, no, no. And she would have asked so many follow-up questions. I just, I was, I was too, I knew if. If I took a beat, I would be able to get over in two seconds. But, like, I needed a moment to recover from the embarrassment of it all. Yeah. I tinkled a little bit in my pants last time I was in New York, actually, and I just rolled with it.

Girl, I'm telling you, I'm not going to do a free advertisement here, but... Oh, the... Do you know what I'm talking about? Is it, like, the tampons that... It's underpants that have, like... Oh. Yeah. Yeah.

I have heard of this. Yeah. To be honest, as a 39-year-old woman, sometimes I still surprise myself with, like, how I don't know my body. Oh, every time in my period, I'm like... I'm like, oh, that's why I'm acting so psychotic. Yeah. Like, don't I know?

And my aura ring tells me, so why do I never have a tampon on me? I'm like, oh, shit. I know, I know. Men, they don't understand. You don't understand. You really don't know. Men. Your easy life.

Anyway, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. Thank you for having me. This was so fun. This was so fun. I love it. You can always tell when somebody has been in the industry or has their own podcasted and you can just keep it going and it's so nice. And honestly, like, so honored to be here.

So thank you so much for having me. Oh, my gosh. Truly, truly, truly. That's so nice. Seriously. No, this is so much. I could talk to you every week. I know.

We'll just keep going back and forth. Yeah, okay. I love it. Sounds good. I'm in. Oh, also tell everybody where they can listen and find you and all the things. Follow me on Instagram at Taylor Strecker. You can also listen to my podcast.

New episodes drop every Thursday. It's called Taste of Taylor. And it's just like chaotic. And then I have a daily show on Patreon. Patreon.com slash a Taylorstreker. show. Listen to Taste of Taylor. So you do every day. I do every day plus a podcast. I do six minimum recordings for my own stuff. How long is the, a day ones? Hour plus. Oh. Mm-hmm. I mean, but it pales in comparison to the four hours I was doing it serious.

That's fair. Yeah? Thank you so much. And thank you. Let's do it again sometime. I'm Caitlin Bristow. I'll see you next Tuesday. I don't know. I don't know. Thank you.