Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - The Bella Twins

Episode Date: May 5, 2020

Kaitlyn’s guests for today are identical twins and professional wrestling tag team, The BellaTwins! The pair come on to tell Kaitlyn and Jason what it’s like being on WWE and how they found their way into the business. They also talk about how women are portrayed in wrestling, how far they’ve come and how far they have left to go in a historically male-dominated sport.   GEICO – Go to geico.com , and in fifteen minutes you could be saving 15% or more on car insurance HIDRATE SPARK – Get 10 dollars off your first order by going to hidratespark.com/vine See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Get ready for lots of laughs. Taboo topics, on filtered advice, and wine. Lots of wine. Get ready to shake things up. Here's Caitlin. All right. So today, Jason and I are sitting down virtually with two sisters who are badasses. Badasses.

Absolutely. They're known first and foremost for their success in the wrestling world, having been called the most iconic female superstars in WWE history. not a big deal The two were also on your TV screens during their time on Total Divas on E and earned their own spin-off reality show Total Bellas, which premiered its fifth season

on April 2nd. The new season will show the evolution of their pregnancies. They're both pregnant. The twins working on the relationships and much, much more. So please welcome and enjoy this podcast with Bree and Nikki Bella,

aka the Bella twins. So tell us, where are you guys right now, first of all? So we have been in quarantine here in lovely Phoenix, Arizona. The really nice thing. So Nicole lives both in Los Angeles and Phoenix, but she's actually my next door neighbor here. She has a house here. Like zero property line next door neighbors. So when all of this went down, she was here and I like it because she got stuck here with me.

Well, and I chose to be stuck. Yeah. It was safer. That's so, I feel like that is the dream to be a twin get pregnant at the same time. as your twin be quarantined together if you're going to be quarantine with anyone it was it would probably be your twin like are there any times you guys are like I don't know about this anymore or are you like this is perfect this is our goal since we're little I well no we were always so opposite and different so my mom like since we've been young she wouldn't let brie and I be in the same class so since third grade like

we kind of had our own friends we were always still best friends but we had our own groups we dressed different um and when i first told her i was pregnant and we were always into different guys and stuff in different states like it was weird and we were kind of anti twins like we were we swore to each other we'd never go to the twin convention like we don't want to be yeah like freaky weird twins we were really twin we were like oh come on cheesy but yet we're those now but yet we're those now i mean when she first found out i was pregnant she was mad at me like we didn't talk for a week Because she was so embarrassed. Okay, I was embarrassed.

So mad and embarrassed are two different things. Embarrassed, yes, because once again, it's like the embarrassing twin thing. And also, because what people will see this season on Total Bell is, 24 hours before that, my sister literally was like, I don't know if I want to be engaged. And then 24 hours later, she's like, I'm pregnant. And I was supposed to be like, okay with it. Okay, well, when I was thinking about the engagement was moving really fast. And then not getting knocked up? Well, no, when I fell out of the next day, it's.

It's not like we planned it. But so it's been quite a journey. Bree and I never thought we had ever lived next door to each other. Like I remember when the lot was for sale next door to her, I was just like, oh, this would be a great investment property. And then now I'm like living here and it's going to be a family home. And I can't believe I'm raising my family next door to her and where we can have a part pregnant.

It trips us out when we talk about it. It's weird. It's probably weirder for you guys. And it is for us, like, from us outside perspective, I'm like, well, yeah, of course twins would do that. But you guys like, no, this is weird. Yes. I mean, it's, and that's the thing is like so many people when it first happened. And you guys know, like, doing reality TV.

Like, everyone's like, oh, they meant to blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no. Like, I don't even want to walk down the aisle for a long time, let alone I was not imagining being a mom. And then you were like, I'm not going to have a baby number two. Yeah, I was all about one kid. So it still trips us. out. Yeah. Yeah, because you have a daughter already. Her name's Bertie, which I'm obsessed with that name. And so how old is she now? She'll be three in May. So in a month, pretty much.

She'll be three. And is this pregnancy any different? Because I'm sure you have like tips and tricks for each other, like, you know, for pregnancy. But is, is this pregnancy different for you from the other? What's really weird is it's so different. But yet her and I are experiencing the same thing. Same everything. We really, our first trimester, we were morning sickness. I always felt like we were car sick, like just felt awful, which I didn't with Bertie. I felt great. And then our cravings have been exactly the same. We can't get enough fruit. We like baked goods. Bertie, I wanted all salt. Give me anything that was salty. So I'm like, why are you doing this to me? You're messing up my life. We're both grain really bad right now. Yeah, we are. I'm just like

staring at your grays, both of us. I know. I stared at yours earlier. That's why I put my beanie on for this. I didn't even know I was going gray until quarantine because I just always keep my hair colored. And I just looked in the mirror the other day. I'm like, oh, cool. Front and center. Right. I'm like cool.

I can't even believe it. I didn't realize I had this many grays. I mean, I can't see them from here. Jason, you're like. No, it looks great. Looks great. Right there. You guys even get the same little gray patches?

That's adorable. Um, Jason, I know you're, I can tell you're, just yeah, quick question from like childhood to career and especially like part of your career being together as two and branded. Was there any one of you that in particular usually was like the first one to do something? And was that a competition amongst you two? Like first one to be pregnant, first one to do X, Y, and Z? You know, it's actually crazy because I feel like, so my, we were, we played competitive soccer when we were younger. And I was really into ballet and Nicole started to play. soccer and she was on this competitive team and she kind of like pulled me into it and from that day on fifth grade till we were seniors in high school soccer was everything I pulled her into the wrestling ring it was like she wanted to continue to play soccer and she wanted to play pro ball in italy and then it was weird because I was like listen I think we're made to be WW super stars like the girls like they story tell but at the same time they're beating each other up it's exactly what we do our whole lives we lip sync to the spice girls and we beat each other up that's true and

So it was weird. So I would drag her into that. And then when it got to business, we both kind of stuff we wanted to do. But it's weird because we definitely noticed in business her strengths are my weaknesses. My strengths are her weaknesses. But we always do drag each other into different things. We do. And, you know, with competitive, it's Bree and I, we never really competed against each other.

Like, we always reach other's number one cheerleader. But when someone did get stuff. like when I'd always get MVP or first team all state and she gets second team all state. Okay, by the way, we would like to rub it into each other. I got first team, too. Yeah, I mean, we, we both got all the credit. No, we did not.

Offense got all the credit. I was center mid. I got zero credit, but yet I was there for defense and I was there for offense. Well, yeah, shitty positions. I could just listen to this the whole podcast. I'm like, you two just go, do your thing. I feel like we should have been WWE wrestlers

because you guys sound like, us. I like it. I agree with that. It's definitely being an identical twin and when you have a relationship like us, it's definitely like this 36-year marriage that you can't live without each other and times you can't live with each other. But you find a way to be with each other every day and break your way through it.

It's exactly who we are. The one thing Brian's trying to tell Artem right now is, listen, when you marry a twin, you're marrying two people. Like Nicole came with Bree and you're going to marry Nicole and Bree's going to come into the marriage. Like you just got to got to know it. I dated a twin. I know how they work. Is that how it goes? Yes, it is actually. Yeah. That's why it didn't work out for me because of the twin. All right. Do you own or rent your own home? I'm sure you do and I bet it can be hard work. You know what's easy? Bundling policies with GEICO. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowners or renters insurance, along with your auto policy, and it's a good thing, too, because

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You just get lost in this one thing. And I was so burnt out the time I became a senior. I also lost my boyfriend to a drunk driving accident. and my whole world got rocked my senior year of high school. And I kind of was just one of those girls who was like, what do I do now? And I had no idea. College was kind of like, oh, I'll try it. And that's when I became a Hooters girl.

I was like, 18. I'm like, I'm going to start making money. All the boys were coming back from Afghanistan. So we were like, hey, we'll make tips. And that's when I got introduced to wrestling. And at the time, I was a wonderlust. And then we were doing some, like, different kind of work, which brought us to L.A. and then we were cocktelling,

but there was something still about the WWE that I felt so connected to and they had a thing called Diva Search. So they were on the search. It's almost like Glow. I don't know if you guys watch Glow on Netflix. So it's exactly like that. So they were on the search for like female wrestlers. So when I

saw that, I just, I don't know what it was and I think this is when you know things are right. Something inside me was like, this is what you're meant to do and that's when I pulled her with me to the audition. But the best part is we didn't even make it to diva search. They were like, yeah, you guys aren't what we're looking for. And we were like, what? Now granted, when we did show up, we weren't wearing makeup. Like, we were dressed as

athletes and everyone was kind of dressed as go-go dancers. So we were like, okay, we get it. We're not what they're looking for. But we just kept pursuing it. And it was weird because when we flew to McDonough, Georgia, we got in the ring and we just, we were like, no, we're going to give everything we can. And I think our career, gosh, 13 years. But it took so many years. to actually really become like big stars. Yeah. And I mean, you know, just some of the, to touch on what Bree said, when we were younger, we were very drawn to Hollywood and the entertainment industry.

But we were built like athletes and we were very athletic and our parents saw that and knew it would keep us out of trouble. And I remember even in elementary school, I'd always go try and do plays. And they're like, my, like, I'd come back and be like, well, it's only this kind of time. And they're like, well, you have practice. You have to do this. You have to do that. and we were like that all the way through high school

like always craving to be in drama and just perform and we do stuff in school but we can never do it outside of school and then for me I just went straight to college and wanted to play in the pro league and when Brie brought WDB to me I remember how I felt immediately and it was funny because it was Hooters

but when we were working at Hooters I would look at WW once a month and it would be like they were in the attitude air and the girls were like making out and doing like brawn panty matches And I was like, what is this? Like, I'm such a tomboy that I just wasn't appealed to it in that way until she brought up Diva search and the girls started to really wrestle.

And I was like, wait, they like get to act and they get to be athletic. This is great. And, but I mean, we worked at the Sky Bar, Sushia. If you all know, all those places on Sunset Plaza, just to get there, the hustle. And I always tell people, like, don't give up. Things don't happen overnight. to where we're it took us 13 years in wdbd just to become you know big wd superstars break barriers for women but i think what it took us i mean so many years to just get to that

diva search point and we just didn't give up and people will tell you that you guys know especially family when you moved to l. they're like everyone's trying to make it everyone wants to be someone and you just can't stop well it's so interesting because jason talks a lot about he has this whole youtube series and he talks a lot about breaking blueprints of what you think you're supposed to do and how like your family might see you doing it a certain way. And I think that's an old school way of thinking. And now people are, you know, there's so many people out there that are going after their dreams and pursuing things and having that different mentality. And Jason always talks about breaking that blueprint

and doing things that aren't like, you know, what you're supposed to be doing. And I think that sounds like that's, that's how people get these opportunities like you two to do things that are just not like 0.1% of people can actually do these kinds of things and it's because nobody really takes those risks so and you guys have you always been like that in life just like risk takers and like you knew you were just going to do something different in life oh yeah Nicole and I always were the types who just were like what's the worst thing that could happen we fail like we failed a lot and so we just start over we were never scared to start over and we were never scared to let's say what we'd really say we'd be like can can we get spank

or grounded spank doesn't like from our dad yeah but we would literally say that I would it be worse than any of that you know then let's try it why not and you know it's funny when you talk about like the blueprint because when Nicole and I joined wb we actually got in wrestling terms a lot of heat when we started because we didn't come from the independence we didn't come from the blueprint of wrestling and a lot of people were like wait when you were like 10 years old you didn't dream to be a wrestler and I was like I was like in soccer like We didn't even going to watch TV. All our parents cared about is, like, winning championships,

going from state to state playing ball. Like, it was different. And we always tell people this all the time, like at any time you can have a dream or you can fall in love with something. Like, what I fell in love with with wrestling at 21 years old, I'm 36. At 40 years old, I might fall in love with something else

that I didn't even realize I loved. And I think that's what I love about people when they say don't go with the blueprint because you don't know what's, like, made for you. Yeah. And for us, the wrestling ring was made. for us but at 15 or 10 years old we probably wouldn't have believed you well and our personalities too like we get a good laugh at trying something and even if we fail and we're terrible at it

like we turn into like a really good laugh over having wine like i can't even believe i thought i could dance like that or i could do this or whatever it may be but brie and i i guess we never have had like shame like we've never felt embarrassed in a way of like what you know so what and we've experienced some really cool stuff throughout our lives because we've just taken those chances. And I wish more people would do it because they would realize like they either get a good laugh at something they're terrible at or they find something that they didn't think they're passionate about and now they're passionate. And they can make it successful. And what I think is so cool about all three of you, Caitlin, Nicky Bray, in different ways you guys have all found a way to really

like empower women and break into this mold, whether it's via reality TV, but having a message and just driving it. And what's interesting about you guys is tell me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding really before you got to involve. WWU was a huge male-driven industry. And you guys, you broke that blueprint, right? You increased women, female viewership and kind of completely detoured the vision of the sport. So, you know, what was that like? Oh, it gives me goosebumps. You've been saying that. It just gave me goosebumps too. Just hearing them say that to you. I can't imagine feeling it. Because Nicole and I just think of how many. like how much blood, sweat and tears went into that journey

and how many women before us and even during our time and even present day keep striving to be considered equal to the men. But what was so weird for Nicole and I compared to really any other superstars is we saw the locker room where men were just everything and women didn't even think they can compete to then see it change. And what we realized, like to make it truly change is women had to connect and come together. Instead of pulling each other down,

and trying to take each other's spots and talk bad behind each other's backs. It had to be like, all the women have looked at each other in locker room and be like, so we can all connect and do this together and show up everyone. And we definitely, like, total divas changed it at all. Like, they allowed the mainstream world

to really look at female wrestlers and just be like, wow, they work as hard as the boys, but they don't get the credit. Yeah. Well, and I think, too, Brie and I, when we got there, and I think from being bullied and not being a part of this blueprint and just in the beginning,

being kind of outcasted, it was like even when it was the women doing it as well, Bree and I, I remember just looking around and wanting something more for women. And I can't tell you how many times we heard noes and, like, were just broken down and it didn't stop us. It actually gave me such fire inside

to turn every no into a yes. And I was like, I am not going to stop until things change. And it took 13 years, and I mean 13 years, of good times, bad times, times that I'm like, I don't know if I can make this, a lot of tears. It's a long time to go through that.

Yeah. And it's like, isn't it crazy? Once you have that mindset, it's like you're unstoppable. It's like, I could only imagine the women back the day when they wanted to vote. It was like, no, we're going to get to this place. We're going to vote. And that's how we felt with like the women in wrestling. It's like, no, they're going to finally get respected.

And we still have a ways to go. But we finally got there. And reality TV definitely helped because we needed more eyes and we needed more women and that's what it brought and we started having more women come to the shows which then started to show the higher ups like okay wait there is something here it's like yeah yeah it is it's super empowering i've been to a couple shows and we we've been oh yeah love it we get fired up jumping around it's so it is empowering and i love it because i also talked to um nat that her name yeah natty so she's from um a small town like two hours from where i'm from in canada and

And so we talked and we kind of talked about that same thing about how you can make it empowering and coming together and feeling strong. And I'm sure, and this is coming from her, so I'm not sure if you can relate to this. But growing up where you are built more as an athlete and how now in the times we're in, that's like a strong, beautiful, badass thing to be. Oh, it's so true. We were like finally, because I remember growing up, I'd only look like one of the main women I'd look up to is J-Lo because she was like the first one embraced for her natural curve. and then just being Latinas, but it was like everything was so not about being, you know, strong. It was like, oh, you're masculine or your butch or, you know, you just had all these names. And so when that started to change, we all of us girls with thick thighs were like, damn, it's

about freaking times. Well, I do like. Nicole and I, because we, you know, with playing soccer, gosh, we were in middle school when the women won the World Cup. Yeah. But it was like the first time when you saw Mia Han. do a commercial with Michael Jordan and it was like anything you could do I could do better

and I remember that was so inspiring test or Carla Overbeck took off her shirt and she's wearing a sports brab but Brandy Chastain or Brandy Chastain but the whole world was like how dare she has if she showed her tities but it was like she's got a sports brage she just scored the winning goal what but without fakeies too

without fakey yeah I mean she had T.HO but oh wow but yeah it's like I think all those little things and those women athletes inspired us so much and we knew like okay we knew that something could be conquered at WWE but it's so crazy because Natty was one of the people who taught us how to wrestle

like she was someone we started developmental with and we're like listen we'll teach you how to dress you teach us how to wrestle and this is going to be the best partnership and that's yeah because she came from a long line of wrestlers. Oh yes I mean legendary oh really like who who is her

family the heart family. Jim Nighthart was her father Bradhart is her uncle. Owen was her uncle. Stu Hart, her grandfather. She's one of the only females that has actually learned how to train in the dungeon, which is iconic in the wrestling industry. I mean, she's as legit as they come as far as wrestling blood and bored into this industry. Yeah, it was interesting to talk to her.

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called Total Bellas. So you have that, your first season premiered on April 2nd, right? So, gosh, we actually, April 2nd was, oh yeah, season premed. Season 5. Yeah, which was last Thursday, crazy. Yeah, so what do we expect from this season?

So, who knows? Yeah, it's like, what day is it? I don't even know where I am right now. So this season will, Brie, do you want to start because you have a lot of marriage issues in it? I feel like everyone in quarantine is like, oh, I'm on Brie's side now. And I'm like, well, my issues were a year ago. So, you know, it's so funny because we, gosh, we've been doing reality television for seven years now.

And people saw my husband and I, we were just dating on the show, we got engaged on the show, we got married on the show, I gave birth on the show. We've done everything. And I guess I never thought like you give up like your all, but this season we just dove really deep into our marriage because they could kind of tell that Brian and I were just distant. And we were kind of evolving differently. And so they really wanted to kind of go deep into it. And it was weird because, and I think all of us who filmed reality before, sometimes reality television helps you realize what's going on in your life. Because, you know, people start to talk about things that they're seeing and you're like, wait, what? When you get to see yourself as a person.

Yeah. How you react, what you do about things. Right. And I guess I really didn't realize just how bad my marriage was. And when I say bad, Brian and I are best friends, but it became a partnership. We were just raising a kid. And we really lost a lot and we became just, we just started to evolve differently instead of together. And that's the season you just really go on the journey.

And obviously I'm pregnant now, so it ended good, even though I didn't want a second. but I know the night that we had a lot of fun. I know the night. And it never happens like that for me. It took me eight months to try, which I think was just so frustrated. And then I'm like, how is it that it just happened like that? But I guess I wasn't thinking. Yeah.

But a lot of people will see that. And I think married people will realize it. And I hate to be that one person who's like, kids change the game. But they do. And I think Brian and I have just been trying to like get back to who we were before Bertie. And it's hard because Bertie's just our world. and we give everything to her. So at the end of the day,

we have nothing for our marriage, nothing for ourselves. So people really see us on that journey this season just us trying to get our marriage back on track. Yeah. And realizing that we have to actually try. Yeah. And we have a new cast member,

who's my now fiancé. Yes. Tell me everything. Yeah. So we've been on a roller coaster ride, and it's crazy because we caught a lot of that. And then I start to like, it's funny because every season I watch,

because Breed and I are very well. We just throw everything out there and we're like, screw it. Like, this is how you can be a good reality to start. Like, you can't hold back. And then I watch myself every season. I'm like, damn, maybe I need more therapy. But, um, Artem and I, whatever, we just go, I'm the type of girl who I'll get buzzed and I'll be like, let's have a barbecue tomorrow.

I'll text to everyone, the party. All of a sudden, the next day I wake up. And I'm like, wait, I'm having a party here today. Like, I don't want to. Like, can I cancel? I do it all the time. And I do that in, like, related. Like, Ardum got cut from Dancers.

I'm like, move in. And then I start to just get hot and like, wait, is this bad? And I got that way with the engagement and just things moved really fast. But we fell in love really fast. And so we on this roller coaster ride this season, poor Artem. Like, I'm so hot and cold. It's like, I was watching myself and I'm like, damn, I feel so bad for him. You think you're bipolar?

I'm not bipolar. But it might come off that way. But it's... That's okay. Yeah, right? It's like, you know what? I just, I know what I want every other day. So it changes.

You sound like me. Actually, you both sound like me a little bit. But that's it, because you guys met on Dancing with the Stars. He was your partner on Dancing with the Stars, right? So season... And how long ago was that? Season 25. What season are we on now?

I don't even know. I know. Like, that doesn't make sense. Two. You meant a couple years ago. Yeah, it would be three years in November. Three years in November. Three years.

No, I was tripping. So, yeah, it's been like two years. And Artem and I, so we danced, and I was engaged. And then when we walked, we became such good friends. And, like, doing that show, like, you have the most incredible journey with everyone who's there. And I think, too, for me, was the first time I had to really depend on someone. Because I go out to the ring and I fight on my own. In the soccer field, you have a...

You depend on me. But it's different. Like, I had to go out there. And dance and get judged world, like across the nation. I feel like I judge you in a lot of things. Yeah, but judging dance in a little outfit is way worse. Trying to somba your ass off with purple lipstick, it's just not me. But I was just like, damn.

But so we, you know, we had built such a great friendship. And then, you know, you go after the show. And what's crazy is like you don't really see these people anymore. Like, that's just it. And so I had my ups and downs and my relationship. and then when we broke up was the first time I heard from Artem. Like, he gave it a few weeks. I feel like someone told him, like, don't hit her up all quick.

And it was like, hey, reaching out, seeing if you're okay. I was like, yeah, I'm cool, you know, whatever. And then he asked me out on a date. Like, was it like, oh, I don't know. Shortly after. And I was like, no, sorry, you're not going to be the first guy I'm seen with because it's going to bring up, you know, that dancing with the star stuff. And all that stuff really grossed me out.

Like, even still, I mean, now. I'm fine, but in the beginning when people are like, oh, the partners. I'm like, oh, vomit. Everybody loves that little, you know, the backstory of the what happens behind the scenes. Everyone loves that, yeah, yeah. And I hated that.

But we ended up going on a first date to the farmer's market and then just couldn't get enough. Like, it's crazy. It's happened fast. When you guys do dancing with the stars, like you are spending so much time with that person. They are seeing the good, bad, ugly and so I feel like by the end of it you probably know each other pretty well that so what you're

saying is you know you're like hot and cold or he's probably like classic like does he kind of understand that's who you are yeah and I think that's like the thing that was so crazy when we got together was I almost know him better than anyone I mean except my ex because we were together for so long and Bree but like out of any other guy that I've been in relationship with like I have not known someone that well because we got to know we were together like 10 hours, eight hours every day. And so starting to date that way was really good. But then it was just funny because we called each other out on a lot of things. We understood. And then though you would see a certain different side, especially once you get intimate, you know, sex is amazing. But then

it brings this whole other thing into it. But yeah, he, I feel bad. He totally gets me and puts up with me but don't feel bad because that's you and you need someone to find somebody like that do you feel like you put up with me uh yeah actually you know that means we're going there yes for sure my husband he puts up with me i think well you know what i see a lot of common similarities is like nicky with your sister and your partner is like there's a lot of balance right it seems like you're not the same you have opposites and i think that goes the same with katelyn and i as we have a lot where personalities are totally different. The way we approach things are A to Z, but we balance each other so well. And I see like there's a lot of commonalities there.

I love that. It's so true because Artem and I are so opposite and you see that on total Bella's this season. And it's like, um, like I can't believe I'm with a Russian ballroom dancer. Like I'm a fighter. Like I am such an aggressive woman and I am with such a romantic sweet soul. and if I I think if I never got to know I probably would have never said yes going on a date but we do balance each other out

I feel like he was like the link that I needed in my life like he lets me be the bull and he's just the what's the guy called the Toro who just lays the little flag down was that a good analogy not really

whatever I'm not following but I kind of am and I don't know why I don't know he doesn't kill me in the end you know what I mean yeah The Ole. He's the O'Lei guy. The guy with the red flag?

Yeah, but he doesn't use the flag on me. It just lets me be the bull. I don't know. That was a bad analogy. No, I get it. So I got it. While we're on your dating history, I'd be remissed if I didn't bring this up. So I have to ask.

So, okay, this is a really funny story. And you will definitely not remember any of this. But there was a WWE event in Seattle, Washington. Oh, I knew you're going to. And I had to bring it up. We're front row. And I was like, kind of chirping as you came. out and you had your shirt on and he threw it at my face and I kind of commented on one of your

photos. It was right after the show ended. And I said something about like, you just threw that in my face. You're like, sorry, sweetie or whatever. And my buddies are chirping me. They're like, first of all, how did you get this girl's attention? Second of all, John Cena is going to absolutely kill you. But I'm moving on to the next part of it. So I was like, oh, what's going on with Nikki? And I saw you went on a date with Peter Krause, I believe, from The Bachelor. So I was like, oh my God. If we're podcasting, I got to ask how that went. This was pre-Katlin, but I was laughing. I was like, oh, Peter got the date, but I didn't get it.

When they came to me and said, like, hey, would you go on a date with Peter? I was like, I didn't know Peter, but I was like, you know, at first, I was like, this is so new. And my breakup was still kind of, I mean, for me, new. But I was like, okay, maybe this is what I need. And then they're like, well, you know, we have to film it from beginning. and poor guy, but then I also felt bad for myself. Because I'm like, I have to meet him on camera and do the whole date.

He was very romantic, said all the right things. I had a great time, but it was weird. You know when you can connect with someone off the bat? Like, it's either friendship or, like, I felt the friendship and we had a lot of fun. We got drunk. Like, I mean, I just felt so drunk. But I felt bad because when we went in for the kiss, like, they kind of edited it backwards, but I like kind of not scream to know

but it kind of scared me too because I wasn't expecting like like I was like looking away and then I got like just hit with like someone trying to kiss me and it's like no I'm like wait like what are you doing and my producer immediately was like I swear it wasn't me because I like looked

at him like did you like are you playing me but um we talked for a little bit after that but like I never I don't I never saw him again right no and he's saying that sweet gift he did he sent me black licorice with like a cute Paris book because I love black licorice and Paris um he like very romantic guy he seems like he'd be an amazing catch for someone just wasn't right for me but um I've never met him so I just

I figured I had to ask was super sweet I mean and so many girls like even the girls that were working were like oh my gosh Peter and all my friends were texting me like Peter even my husband was like wow yeah it's great looking dude and it's really cool I was like I'm surprised he hasn't found someone or he's not married. I think he's still waiting to be The Bachelor. Yeah, I think we'll find him on another spin-off show. I asked him about that and he was like, not for me. And I was like, yeah, right.

I don't know. But he should do it. Yeah, he should. I like when people own it. Like, I feel like you said you've always been drawn to Hollywood and always wanted to do it. Like, why is that? That's not a bad thing and you went after it. Who cares?

Like, I think it's great. Do you guys still enjoy the process of recording or are you like, this is getting a lot now with relationships and family, or do you love it? So it's weird, we go on and off. We get Courtney vibes at times, like when she doesn't like her glam and like wants to

box up her sisters. We definitely have those moments. By the way, how amazing was that fight? I've watched a thousand times crying, laughing every time. I've watched it in many different ways. Like, I've watched it with like commentators. I've watched it in slow motion.

I've watched it with like other people. It's hilarious. I don't know who won. Who you're given the win to? I think in the end Courtney wins. I think so too. If your wig gets crooked and your glam's on the wall, the other bitch won. Yeah. And you're like hurting. But you definitely have those moments where you're just like, why why am I doing this? Like I'm so over it. It's like you just your insights can't take it anymore. But Brie and I from day one we've always

said like let's be real because people, people out there relate so much to us and always be relatable just give them our truth and we constantly especially have women but women and men come up to us and are always just like thank you for sharing this because I thought I was alone and to see you go through it you help me get through it and so we always give each other pep talks when we're like falling like hey think the Bella army think the people that you're touching that you're helping right so that helps because there are times who yeah and we had a new team this season and um they were so amazing and we felt like we needed that a refresh and I think when people saw the first episode last

week they're like whoa this is like a way different show it's revamped and and our attitudes were different we just we kind of went in it with like a better mindset yeah I can't wait there to see my reaction because as a now I'm going to give birth on camera and we will see how that goes wait explain this to you haven't yet no so I'm okay I was like wait how far a lot are you in August. That was confusing how she said it. I know that's yeah I have yeah but I said I would yeah so I'm like signed up for that but yes but in the moment you'll probably be like what the hell was I thinking and then after you'll be so happy you did it that's true well I had my dola film mine she sent them all the footage without I didn't look at it they were like well Bree the camera

was on your vagina she was so zoomed in like you know what the full ambiance a dola is thinking right like let's wait for the head to come out. Let's do like sex ed, but we watch in class. So the whole crew pour them. So the vagina. No one see a vagina in labor. No, I took her leg and it was terrible. But I mean, we definitely got a lot of shots of me being in labor and like a bath and, you know, other positions. But this is also great because I mean, marriage struggles, families, sister relationships, like all, everything that you guys are doing and being real about are things that people can all relate to. There's not one marriage out there that will not struggle or go through something, you know. So it's, it's, I like when

people are, I like to say brave to do that because it's good for everybody to be able to sit back and watch that and know that they're not alone. And as of the birthing, I have to tell you, my sister went into labor one time and I was there and I had this image of myself being this total gangster badass holding her legs up and like, yeah, like talking her through it and being able to like experience this miracle of life. And the second, like, she was in. in labor for like 46 hours and like before pushing and she was just losing her mind and I was getting bored

and I'm like let's go and as soon as she looked at me she's like I feel like I have to start pushing I like just froze I was like and I went completely white I had to leave the room I was like distracting her and she's being like what happened to her plan and I couldn't do it so

good for you mothers are heroes I was chanting to 10 and I'm like why am I chanting I don't even know why I was chanting it was the one time through my whole process because she was with me the full 22 hours her holding that leg I was exhausted but when I was pushing and I pushed three hours until finally I had to have an emergency C-section because Bertie was stuck in my birth canal but her and Brian were screaming and my faces chanting we took it like a ballgame we're like one two and I wanted to scream like shut that fuck up but yeah totally they were just like so

into it we were but But be happy you didn't see it because what I saw happened to the vagina in that process, I have nightmares knowing that that's going to happen to me. Why did I take the leg? I told Brian after I was like, if anything, you should have taken, like, you don't have a vagina. I have a vagina. And that hurt me. There was one point I almost fainted because when they were doing the ripping. Oh, gosh.

I just looked at it. Like, that's, I can't even believe it. It all goes back. So you men know. That's what I heard. Okay. I don't know if I was going to ask. or not, but in my head, I'm like, does it go back?

Oh, ask her. Oh, it does. You want about it. So it's really funny because, so I ended up, even though she got stuck in my birth canal, my vagina still went through all the trauma. Yeah. So, and then I had emergency C-section. I'll never forget, I was laying on the bed, and one of the nurses comes in, and she goes, you're so swan. I go, I know my face. I don't know why. She goes, no, not your face, your vagina. And I was like, what? So I waddled to the, of the bathroom, and she had me bend over and I'm staring. And I, like, freaked out. I was like, like this isn't this goes back she goes two weeks it's all normal and sure not after

crazy after two weeks it was didn't it was like a hot dog with a with buns stop well this is everything's so swollen yeah there you go so come on kids don't take the leg i told art i'm you're not going anywhere waist down you could kick it in the back but you're not looking at that because we're going to still have oral sex the rest of our lives and you're not going to think any other thoughts i i have oral sex still so my husband was i was gonna ask okay so you've been there and he was down there and it still happens for you so but he's like a earthy tree hugger i feel like they embraced it at such a different yeah i mean he loves bushes so it's different like outdoor bushes no your bush oh my god i got i got a question while we're on this discussion

do you have detour this is the good stuff no this is right where i'm going with it is like so some of these details and stuff. And you're, obviously, you two are like wide open talking about anything. Caitlin's the same way. I'm wondering in your like relationships or with family, do you guys ever have issues when this stuff comes up when your, your partners are like, what the fuck are you talking about? How are you bringing that up right now? Does this come up in your relationships? All the time. All the time. So we are with men who like to be private, very private and conservative. That's how I am. So we had him, I'm a poor guy. So this Wednesday are podcast. We recorded Friday and I had him on and I called him out for not having oral sex with me anymore and I go I see how you stare at my vagina and how it looks and it's because I have like this mohawk that starts because I did laser weight for so long it's a weird it's an upside down mohawk but it starts at the lips and goes to like the butt crack like it's so funky and I feel bad for him and I told him I'm gonna fix it but I call him out his face is so bright red and he's like are we really talking about this I'm like oh yeah I'm calling you out I'm sliding

over here. And then I made Nicole show me in front of him, because I was like, it's my twin. I'm like, show me like, what? Like, you don't have a bush on, you don't have a hair on your box? Like, I didn't get it. So she showed me, and I was so disgusted. And Arden was sitting there, like, you just showed your vagina to your sister in front of me.

It's like, we're recording the podcast. We shared a womb. Like, we're good. We're born naked. And then my husband walks in, and I go, Brian, Nicole's the grossest. I didn't show him. And Arden was, had to leave. He had to leave.

So this happens a lot. He's just always goes, wow. This makes me so happy and I feel not so alone because I am the exact same way. And Jason is so private. And I will talk about anything with my family. We will go there. I would have done the same thing with my sister. And Jason gets absolutely mortified by how open I am about that kind of stuff.

And I'm like, I have to read my audience. Like if I'm around my family or his and be like, oh, no, we don't go there, Caitlin. We don't do that. We're the same. Yeah. The thing I've learned from it for sure, because I used to be, I was a corporate bank or very, like, polished, politically correct. And the one thing I've taken away from it is that the silver lining is when you are open and you share some of this stuff, what you realize is that every damn person is going through the same exact thing. And you're now empowering people to say, it's okay.

You know, we're allowed to fall on her face. We're allowed to have embarrassing moments. We're people. Yeah, we're allowed, you know, and we can talk about it and own it. Right. You know every girl from Laserway is going to be like, Yeah, so we did, yeah, we did me right here. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

I'm like, because pregnancy, you just don't know where it will grow. And it's been very eye-opening for me. And, but when things happen, I'm in the best place right now because I get to go, well, I'm carrying your child. So. Oh, that's a good one. I cannot. I cannot do that. Because Brian will always be like, you know, my mom listens and he always gets upset up like, my mom goes on social media.

Yeah, that's Brian. And so we did this. thing like we did a big do you like Bush or no Bush we did a debate on it and it was actually pretty 50 50 well we went to Disneyland and Brian's aunt who's very conservative in her 60s

right in her 60s came and she leans over and she goes Bree I voted Bush and Brian's face and I was like see Brian you don't you think your family's real conservative but and he could all like he talked about it for weeks he's like I cannot believe my

aunts heard the episode see and she felt safe enough with you guys to talk about her bush that makes me really happy i've i cannot imagine your your family talking about that i was yours i certainly don't want to do a one-up thing but it got to my it got to my grandfather that the first time katelyn and i hooked up we she she was on her period and therefore we dry humped and as a result of that she had an orgasm and that that's how she knew we would be a good fit and then tell the rest And then I had a booger in my nose, and he picked it. So I'm talking on my podcast about this.

And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I'm on my period. So we were dry humming I had an orgasm. So I knew he was the one. And then he picked my booger and we fell in love. And that ended up as like a headline for media outlets about this podcast. Jason was still in corporate banking. His like boss was like, have you Googled your name? And then his grandpa was like, I'm getting emails about this podcast.

And I'm like, am I welcome into the family? Like it was pretty new I have a Jewish family and a Catholic family Of course this story has to go to my Jewish grandfather Who's like you know the oral surgeon brain of the family is like What the hell is wrong with my grandson? But now your grandpa loves me Yeah you forget right in those moments when we talk about

I never think of the family members Until when you're around and so mentions it And then I do get a little moment of like Oh shit And then I'm like whatever they do it too but that's good I know because you have to be who you are and that's why people tune in and that's how people know you as being you know raw and authentic and that's why people love you so it's like you can't change who you are but also it's I do the same thing where sometimes

his mom will be like well I heard that one on the podcast of you Jason and I was like oh my gosh I talked about having sex with her son I was like like I will go there about anything and it just like you can't change who you are though and and they still love me and taking the whole conversation full circle at the end of the day everyone is having sex with their partner and what's wrong with a story about two consensual people hooking up with their clothes on like when you put it in perspective everyone who cares right so exactly yeah it's all about the delivery yeah dry sex is great and you know your grandpa so underrated and it is so underrated needs to come back you know your grandpa has had that experience he was like in his head like well this one

time and yeah but grandparents are still trying to get used to the whole public thing that's true They're very private people. That's right. Talking about it. That's true. That's true. I have accepted the fact, like my parents at this point, they, you know, they just knew. When I went on reality TV, they're like, she'll say and do anything.

You're meant to be on reality TV where your family was like, how did this happen? What's the hell? We never saw this coming. Damn it. We'll be back with more off the vine with Caitlin Bristow. Hello? Shut your pie holes. Welcome to Big Demi Energy.

I'm your host, Demi, Burnett, and I'm so excited to have you joining my podcast. Some things you can expect from this podcast are some juicy gossip, some good advice, some fun, exciting guests, and a lot of other surprises. Make sure you subscribe to Spotify, Apple Podcast, or Podcasts, or Podcasts, wherever you listen to your podcast. Now back to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. This is a good segue into confessions because every podcast idea we have, my guest has to confess something. And I feel like from this conversation, we're going to be in for a real treat here. Yeah, I know we were thinking about confessions. I know like I had an embarrassing moment.

Confession. it's so hard when you're an open book yeah like i guess the mohawk would have been mine and that's fine that's gonna take care of that tonight because he drives home and so i promise no i am clipped your toenails you know what this is what artem said he just is like i'm shocked because i'm someone who gets manny petty every two weeks i do my laser i am so trimmed up and this quarantine life like i'm not chancing it i'm not gonna go just sneak a manny Petty and to chance it. I'm not going to get laser done or wax.

Like, and I'm pregnant. So I'm just like your shit out of luck. But I do realize I need to do a beauty day with myself. But a woman, okay, and this is my opinion, but a woman carrying a child, in my opinion is one of the, like, most beautiful things I've ever seen in life. Like, I think it's so beautiful. So he probably sees you in that way, too. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I even think, like, I feel like my, like, my husband, like when you say, uh, he's,

You feel like Artem stares at your vagina. I feel like Brian says, but he stares at me and like, like, he just looks at me like, wow, like she's carrying my baby. Like it's a beautiful thing. Like even last night. I mean, we had oral sex. We had sex. Like, it was great. That's amazing.

And I have this big belly. Like, I mean, my belly is huge. Oh. Oh, I love it. Yeah, but you know. I like to jump through the screen and touch it. He finds it sexy. He does.

They do. But what's your confession? Gosh, I guess my confession is even though. I feel like I don't have a confession. I'm. You have a little hockey bush. It's okay. Dying for a drink.

I mean, I've just been like one of those every day. If I could get drunk every day. We have like literally, I've missed drinking. I feel like we were meant to be in quarantine pregnant because we'd be drunk every day and be bad. I know.

That's us. You know, yeah. We are drunk every day. Yeah. How do you not? I would, I would be killing my wine cabinet right now.

Oh my gosh. That is. We are. Yeah. That is what we are doing. But I had an embarrassing moment. that's about this season that I think everyone's going to be able to relate to

so I get into nothing's worse than having your first massive fight on reality TV I had what like six tequila drinks started aggressively salsa dancing with other men with my tits were falling out spanks like that was my way to get back at him I guess you know when you have like half your makeup's gone

and the voice like oh yes you guys like he even went home because they don't want to be a reality cameras, I was like, you guys are coming with me. That I'm never like this, except for high school maybe. Barge into his house with cameras, wake his ass up. Like, I mean, and it's because he signed releases all there. When I had to watch it back, I was so embarrassed for myself and I can't believe it's airing in a few weeks.

And so I don't think I've been this embarrassed yet on reality TV. I'm very embarrassing. It's amazing. I watched it and I was there, but I was intoxicated. but it's so good. We got drunk hosting a premiere. And I had to go up and say like, hey to the DJ and I looked at him

and I was like, just like, I don't know this guy's name. And it was Tom from Vanderpump Rules. But I'm staring at him like, and he's like looking and I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, I have no idea. I could even play it off. I was just so drunk. But yeah.

That's, I mean, if all my tequila moments were on camera, we'd be in trouble. Oh, yeah. I tequila is my jam but that's like wine and tequila my two well and whiskey but I tequila for me is like I could I could not be happier

vodka or whiskey for me I will roundhouse kick his ass in like two seconds if he says wrong thing yeah vodka makes me such a bitch same I get so bitchy yeah yeah vodka makes me look like an angry bird and then when I'm on Jack Daniels

I just am like it's crazy I'm like some crazy ninja like a villain would you rather be it's Would you rather be sober in quarantine or out in public with everyone in social settings? Ooh. I like to be drunk in social settings. No, but you have to choose either or.

Oh, either or? Sober. I'm already experiencing the sober stuff. I'd rather be sober in social settings. Sober and social settings? I would rather be sober at home. I miss having human connection. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. But wait, I'm so confused. I don't know. I'm confused. I don't know. You want to be out in the, in public drunk, not at home drunk. She said sober, not drunk.

Oh. Maybe I confused my, I'm drunk right now. I don't know. I don't know. I think I confuse my own question. That's, like you said, when you're an open book, it's hard to come up with confessions. And that's how I feel each podcast because I'm like, I don't know. What, like, I peed in the bath the other night.

That's pretty gross. You peed in the bath? Yeah. What do you mean? That's, why? It's really not okay that I did that. I mean, peeing in the shower, I'm all for, but I... You're just soaking in it, that...

I know. I had a shower after, so I don't feel as disgusting. But I was having one of those nights where I'm just... I like to have whiskey baths, where I just have, like, a whiskey on ice and have a bath and, like, relax. And I just had a couple of those. And then I was like, I don't really feel like getting out of the bath to pee. And I'm planning on having a shower after. So I just peed in the bath.

And I agree, that's really disgusting. That is hilarious. So the other night I was taking a shower with my daughter And I just started peeing in the shower And she was like, Mom goes, I was over the drain And then she goes like this But she like leaned her hips like a boy And then she started peeing

She's like marking her spot I was like hey we're not wasting toilet paper Because we all know that's out Silver lining That's amazing Okay Jason you have to confess something Jason never can confess I'm so bad at this

You're bad at it because you aren't vulnerable enough to share embarrassing things. Well, usually I like to come prepared. I'm not an on-the-spot guy, but the other day I did a FaceTime with my college buddy. He's nothing crazy. But we ended up playing like every drinking game, like back when we were 19 years old.

Like literally we had a deck of cards and we're like red or black and the loser had to just pound their drink. So I came down after three hours completely shit-faced. But I was trying so hard to hide it. So I don't know because I was just like, so I had a flat brim on like down to my nose so she couldn't see my eyes. That just shows me he's drunk. I'm like, how drunk are you right now?

And then apparently I had the brilliant idea to put on Richie Rich. And mid-richy Rich, like, Caitlin's like, oh, I'm looking forward to watching this. Let's play a game. I completely passed out. And when I fell asleep, Caitlin took a video of it. And it's the most, it's the most, like, barbaric way a human could possibly sleep in the world. And I would want no one to see it, especially you guys, but you know what the hell, fire it on. I have to see.

I love it. That's actually fun. of this shit this is you're going to be traumatized oh my gosh and your dad's me sleeping right there and you're sleeping so to paint the picture my my brim has down to my nose my eyes are literally crossed open and I'm snoring it's terrifying but anyway that was my freaking Wednesday night I'm gonna have to post that now so people can really see that's good just I know I could probably talk to you guys for another hour because this is fun but let um i just wanted to ask you you're also working on a memoir like you guys are doing

so much right now um and you're working on a memoir which is awesome um it's called incomparable is that what incomparable or incomparable no it's both i told you i was drunk but okay tell me about tell us about that and more people can get it yeah i was like you i said incomparable and i actually got corrected by our um editors they're like no incomparable i'm like we wrote the book and I don't know how to say it I was like I feel as bad either or

tomato tomato but it is it's about it's about our childhood and what led us to be the woman we are today you know we've been on reality TV but we've been on reality TV

more as adults and we kind of wanted people to understand like it wasn't easy for us growing up and even getting into the WWE and so we just kind of wanted to write a book that let young kids

and especially young women know like there's going to be a lot of ups and downs, especially downs, and how to get through it and stay positive and keep, like, just get up and keep going. So it comes out May 5th. You can pre-order it now. But there's a lot of stories that are going to be coming out that we haven't

told anyone. Yeah. So, especially her. My poor mother. That makes for a good book. Every time I tell her that, she's like, I'm dreading May 5th. I'm like, well, you should, but it's a... That's awesome.

You guys have done so much. And my intro, I know I didn't say it, but in my intro, I'm just talking about how you guys are just absolute empowering badass women who so many people look up to. And it's, it's just, you're my kind of people. Like, when I talk to you like this or when I see you guys on TV, I'm like, yes, those are my kind of women. And I just, I really enjoy talking to you both. And I'm excited for your new season and the memoir and everything coming up for you. Did you have anything more? I know we're wrapping it up.

The only thing I'm curious of is like, what do you, what is the one? thing you could attribute to how you guys kind of broke through and created what you did in the WWE to become Hall of Famers, you have the memoir, you have a TV show, you know, it all happened quickly, right? In the last 10 years, it's 10, 15 years for you guys,

it's been A to Z. If you had attributed to one thing that someone could take away from this, what would it be? My mom always told us growing up, very young age, and she says it every day to us, is live with no regrets. And that always, like, really just like, held, like, special

place in my heart so um everything we i do i do it with no regrets because i don't ever want to live a life where it was like if i just did that or if i just went and tried or if i don't want to do if i don't want to be by a vineyard having my wine thinking about the ifs i want to be by a vineyard having my wine thinking about all the memories so i just i live with no regrets and and for me it's whatever you do be authentic and um oh shoot i was going to add to that and now i forgot but it's be authentic and passionate and don't have your sick don't define your success with dollar signs find out your own definition and stick to that because i wanted to be a badass female i wanted to be a woman that was going to make men shiver in a great way and break barriers and be a badass and i found an industry

that came to me and i never stopped till i did and so and everything i've done and bret too i've been authentic to my fans to my brands to whatever i promote anything i do and It's passion and it's authenticity. That's so important. That's like my number one thing I always tell myself to you. That's the day I came off that show. I was like, how do I stay true to myself and build something off of that?

Because that's the way it's going to last. And that's what's going to keep you happy. And that's what's going to empower others. So true. Yeah. That's awesome. You ladies are my favorite. Thank you so much for podcasting with us.

And good luck to you with everything that you're doing. Is there anything else? Where can everyone find you and your podcasts and all the show? all of a sudden everything you've got going on so um total bell is airs every thursday night nine and central only on e our podcast is every wednesday wherever you get your podcast and then our memoir incomparable um is may 5th and i think you get that anywhere online just google just google and you're and when are you both do again august what so i'm august 6 and she's july 27th week and a half apart yeah that is that's just going to be such an incredible bond for your like for those cousins you know

and for you guys to have kids at this oh that's amazing well thank you so much and um good luck with everything awesome thank you all the best guys i'm katelyn bristow i'll see you next tuesday thanks for listening to oscar vine with kately briscoe get new episodes every tuesday exclusively on podcast one dot com the podcast one app and subscribe on apple podcasts Who's done with OTV?