Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Vanessa Grimaldi

Episode Date: February 27, 2018

Easts meets West as fellow Bachelor alum and Canadian Vanessa Grimaldi talks to Kaitlyn about her experience of the show, working as a special ed teacher, how empowering it is to be single, who's dating who in the Big Brother world, and her Ken You Nots about dumb Canada questions. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What's up you guys? Welcome to Off the Vine. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow, Wine in Hand. Welcome to the most Canadian podcast ever. Let's pour the wine. Did you hear that swallow? Oh, I always, I hear every live. Yes.

But that's the problem. I always talk about this on my podcast because you can't help it. The mic's like right up in your face. Right there. And so if you take a sip, I usually like sip away and then come back. So if I'm talking, you can drink and vice versa. Perfect. Awesome.

Most Canadian podcast ever. We've got Vanessa Grimaldi in from season 21 of The Bachelor in the Studio. studio today. Why are you in Nashville? Oh, my God. So last night I went to the Best Buddies prom. Yes, I watched your Instagram stories. It was the best night ever. So a couple months ago, I was in town visiting Danielle Malpe for my season. And we went to volunteer for the Ryan Seacrest Foundation at the Children's Hospital. And then inwalks in this guy, Mike, and he's like, full of life. And he was there with his boss and we just started talking about the Best Buddies Foundation. and I think we ended up staying like an hour just like dancing and like having so much fun

together and he's like so are you dating anyone I'm like no actually I just like you know I went through a breakup and he's like oh my god you should come to my prom I can like set you up with someone for a prom date and I really believe in like manifesting your destiny because I was getting a lot of DMs about going to prom with people right yeah and I'm like I would love to do that for special education program right so I'm like I want to I want to be able to find that and then so in walks and Mike and he asks me to come to prom and I'm like find me someone who loves to dance someone who loves to sing yeah and then that week I I booked my flight back to Nashville and so the prom was last night it was so much fun that what was the what was your date's name again Brian Brian oh yeah

he looked like he was a good time he is and he is such a ladies man we were walking I felt like I was back on the bachelor like every time we're walking around girls were trying to get his attention I'm like I should be used to this um yeah okay that's really that's Funny. Oh, yeah, that was so sweet. I love that you do that. It was so much fun. He was, it was an amazing night. We had karaoke. We sang some karaoke up on stage. Yeah, there was, I'm not really big into country music. I shouldn't be saying that I'm in Nashville. But I heard you said you were. Oh, I'm big country fan. But I guess like the west of Canada is, because when I was living in Montreal, like, none of us listened to country music. But then when I lived in Ottawa for a year, I got into country music. I'm like, there's some like romantic songs out there.

I love the romance of country music. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. And so what is the foundation called again? Or the Best Buddies? Best Buddies. Best Buddies, Tennessee.

They have Best Buddies, Memphis. They have Best Buddies, L.A. So they're all over United States. I'm not sure if they're in Canada, but it's a really great concept. It's just a night to, like, dance and have fun and just be you. Yeah. Oh, I love that. Yeah.

Yeah, I was watching him like, Brian looks like a good time. He is so much fun. That's awesome. Where were you actually, like, born and raised? So I was born in Montreal. Okay. Have you ever been to Montreal? Briefly.

Okay. I went on, like, a very Canadian trip, and we stopped in Montreal. Okay. Yeah, Montreal is a good time. So I'm born in the most Italian part of Montreal. There's an Italian part of Montreal. Oh, yeah. Montreal is very multicultural.

So I live in St. Leonard. Okay. Which at the time, I think 96% of the population in St. Leonard were Italian. Yeah. So, like, everyone that immigrated from Italy just, like, all went to St. Leonard. Oh. So, yeah, born and raised in Montreal. Oh, that's cool.

Yeah, because I always get so jealous. Here's a confession for you. I get jealous of you all the time that you're Italian. You what? I get jealous that you're Italian. Well, your hair first. I'm like, okay, in another life, I will come back with your hair. But I'm so.

You know what? I use a lot. Okay, this is a confession for me. I use a lot of dry shampoo and spray and hair spray. I do, too, but my hair still doesn't look like yours. Yeah, it does. No, I put my extensions in today just to, like, be around you. Oh, God.

I know you walked in. I was like, damn, you're slaying today. That's because I'm going for dinner after. You look really good. Usually I show up to podcasts and, like, sweats and no makeup and look, like, rough. And today I was like, you know what? I'm going for dinner after. I'm going to clip in the old extensions because I'm podcasting with Vanessa and her hair is gold.

Thank you. But I am really jealous at your Italian. I mean you're like yes you can I love the fact that I could eat a lot of carbs yeah and kind of get away with it is that like is that a thing because so many people I did on my Facebook that I was podcasting with you and everyone's like how does she eat all of the all of the noodles how do you say P-A-S-T-A I was good see that's why I said noodles because I'm like you're Canadian so we say pasta I say pasta now that I'm in L-A everyone keeps making fun of me with my accent so I'm like hold on pasta pasta pasta you say

pasta pasta um yeah I say pasta pasta I don't know what I say so because I try and like say what the majority around me says that's why I just panicked and said noodles because I'm like what does she say pasta oh my god you're hilarious but because Americans always say pasta I say pasta but now when I'm around Americans I say pasta but Sean can he like makes fun of me because he can tell I'm trying So when I'm like, do you want to have pasta for dinner tonight? He's like, it's just pasta. I may just say noodles. Yeah.

So I'm just going to, now I'm just going to say noodles. Nudels. Why do we even get on the noodle talk? Oh, my obsession with carbs. Right. I mean, it's not, I know I have a little bit of an intolerance to gluten. Okay. I also pronounce my teas a lot.

Do you do that? Do you say Mountain or Mountain? I say Mountain. Mm. But I noticed when you said gluten. I was like, oh, gluten. Gluten. Gluten.

I must be the French. But yeah, no, I love pasta. Well, yeah. Because you can. I mean, I have to. You know what I mean? It's like every Sunday. It's in your blood.

It is in my blood. Yeah. What is it? Every Sunday you do? Every Sunday we go to my grandmother's house. And that wasn't even for, did you watch my son? No. I didn't watch.

Okay, well, just to update you. Give me the like, oh, you know I was engaged, right? Oh, yeah. I don't know. How did that work? Well, it worked out is what it did. I'm very happy. Exactly. We'll get into it.

So for hometown dates, we went to my grandmother's house, and that wasn't even for TV. Every Sunday all, I think we're like 14 of us, my aunt, uncle, cousins, parents, like everyone all, we all go to my grandmother's house, and my grandmother will wake up every Sunday at 4 o'clock, make homemade pasta and sauce and bread, go to church, come back and cook it, and then we all get together at 1 o'clock, and we eat for like two hours and just hang out. And you got to do that on the show? We got to, my grandmother, I felt so bad. So, you know how you can't eat on the show? Right, right. So she cooks so much for everyone. She's probably such a host, too, and just wanted everybody.

Yeah, and she's like, Mange, why isn't anyone eating? And we're like, we can't eat on TV. And she cooked like, yeah, she just made a feast. No, and you couldn't eat it. Couldn't eat it. Did you, like, feed the crew and stuff? My grandmother, yeah. And people took, like, food home.

Oh, that's good. Yeah. So your poor grandma. She's like, I slaved away for two days. Oh, that's great. Right. Back to what you do and what you were doing before the show, you worked with special needs and you were a teacher. Yes. Okay, I've always wanted to work with special needs. My mom did that growing up and she homeschooled too. So I've always wanted to, but I feel like I'm too

inconsistent in my life when I feel like you need to be consistent. No? You have such great energy. They would be so drawn to you. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. I absolutely love it. And I just want to find something like that in Nashville to do. But then I just feel bad. Is that something that you can, that you're able to balance now? Well, with my charity. So because I had to move to the States, you know, with the engagement, and then I got other opportunities in the States that led me back to L.A. I always wanted to stay connected to my students and my charity is my way to stay connected

to the special education world. So it's been like such an amazing experience. I didn't realize how much work it is to have a foundation. I thought like, oh, we raise money and give it to a school. And like, that's all we have to do. but there's so much red tape when it comes to charity work and um but it's been it's been quite a success for it's not even a year that we're around and we're ready we're ready raise over $50,000 we're helping out four schools in Montreal yeah and we have some really cool stuff happening

in 2018 too we had like the t-shirts that we sold for valentine's day was like the exclusive t-shirts that sold out in like 48 hours and then we have something coming up to in a couple of months so it's been really good okay wait tell us about in case anyone listening doesn't know yeah so i'm a special education teacher back in montreal and once i got back from the show my students were asking me a bunch of questions because i was gone for like two months and they're like what were you doing it was actually really funny so they came into uh nick came to visit my students for my hometown date and they automatically thought that we were married because we were doing yeah so we were doing like a collage of all of our dates and one of the dates was um the the

We had like a photographer take pictures of us and I was wearing a wedding dress. So they're like, oh my God, Vanessa and Nick, they're married. Right. So in their head, you know, they thought we were married. And then once they started watching the show, they're like, why is he kissing other women? Right. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't know.

I don't get it either. So I had to like have a couple of interventions with them because at one point they like did not like him because of, you know, they didn't understand the concept of the show. And so they're like. Even if you do understand the concept of the show, it's still like a touchy subject for a lot of people. I agree, especially at the time when, you know, you're newly engaged and you have to watch all this back. So they're like, how do you deal with, you know, people going and like saying mean comments about you? And I mean, I think I was pretty lucky with having, I feel like I had more positive than negative comments.

But sometimes like when you're having a rough day, that one negative comment could just overshadow all that. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, I know it's hard. you know like and so we had like conversations about that I'm like there's no better version of yourself I'm like no matter what people say there's no better you and I'm like that'd be such a great idea to have a charity where it just highlights their abilities instead of like highlighting their disabilities and you know talking about how

even just like for people like us you know like how important it is to just be yourself yeah and then like the day after I met up with like my lawyers and accountants and I'm like let's put this together and then yeah it happens so quickly we had our first fundraiser in the summer. So what it does, we try to empower people in the special education community. And right now for the first year, we're opening up sensory rooms, which are basically therapeutic spaces in schools, and they can cost between $25,000 to $125,000. So we're opening up four rooms in 2017, but some of the rooms are still not done. So we did our first ribbon cutting in December at one of the schools and already the teachers are like yeah the teachers are like yeah one of our students

started talking or they started having less anxiety and I'm like I can't believe how you know important these rooms are to to the students so it's it's been it's been really good wow and where can people go if they want to donate or buy things and oh because you're auctioning off I love that you're doing this so you're auctioning off dresses was they dresses that you wore on the show so dresses that you wore you're auctioning off and then the highest bid will go to the charity yeah so 100% of the bid goes to the charity yeah um they have to donate online and it's some of the dresses that I wore from the season it's five dresses five of the most important dresses you know yeah that have a really special meaning to me and I'm like well

I'm not going to wear them again so what's the point of having them in my closet let me just give it to someone else that can make great memories wait can I donate five dresses to your charity yes okay because I just was cleaning out my closet the other day and I can kept trying to let go of these dresses and I was like, but they hold like meaning. And I'm like, but I'm not going to wear them. And now I could. Oh my God. Yes.

Okay. Yes. Absolutely. I mean, they're from like three years ago so they're not super trendy. Oh, whatever. But the fact that you wore them, I'm probably going to buy it. But yeah, Caitlin's DNA's in here. I'm getting it.

I'm all over it. I would love to do that. Oh, that'd be amazing. Yeah. Absolutely. It's so important what you're doing. But, like, I mean, a lot of people come off the show and, you know, want to make money for themselves and do things for themselves. But I love that you're doing stuff for other people and continuing your passion from before the show into, like, having a voice and a platform to be able to do bigger, better things for it.

Yeah. Thank you. I think it was really important for me just because of, you know, especially with what I'm doing with my students before going on the show, I wanted to make sure I still had that connection. And ever since I was a kid, I always knew I wanted to start my own foundation. I just didn't know what it was specifically. so I always say listen to your intuition because there's always I always knew that I wasn't going to be Montreal for forever and now that I'm in LA I'm like everything is kind of making sense you know right yeah because in your mind you probably never thought of yourself

living in an LA lifestyle oh my God because you didn't know what would be out there for you but now you know whatever has happened from the show you've learned to that you can like expand and do what you love to do in other places I mean somewhere like LA I know you know but I never would have thought but yeah that that's exactly it i feel like i could spread my wings because it's such a weird transition to come off of a television show and and wanting to keep your passion and what you're doing before for some sort of like normalcy or what you loved doing it into like all these new opportunities that come with the show and it's kind of hard to navigate that to like still be doing what you love while taking these opportunities yeah so you've done that and do you

you were doing something with e right so i I don't remember how that came about. Well, my publicist, we had done like this thing with them for Instagram. And then they're like, oh, you know, people keep asking about your makeup. And I'm like, oh, well. You're like, I wear mascara and I'm just naturally beautiful. I'm like, no, I'm actually the worst when it comes to my makeup tutorial because I'm like, I know what works best for your face.

I know what works best for my face. And I don't like going away from like my makeup routine. And so they're like, well, we have this show. And, like, we need someone who doesn't really know much about makeup and we need a co-host and whatever. So it just, like, it's like a beauty segment that we did for their Facebook Live. And it was so much fun. And there's such a great network to work with. Oh, I bet.

And so did you learn a lot about makeup? Apparently not. I went on a red carpet once and my false eyelashes started to, like, peel off. And it was like right in the middle of my face. I was like, this is so embarrassing. That's kind of funny, though, because people love relatable shit. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I was like Instagram again, like, whatever.

shit happens. When you posted a photo of you on a red carpet, you're like, can someone sign me up for, what is the toddler? Tollas, Indiana. I was just standing there. I was like, I have no idea what I'm doing. I never know what to do on a red carpet. I am so awkward. It's really bad. And I was like the, I think one of the first, no, was the second time I did a red carpet by myself because usually like I would do it with Nick. Of course. Yeah. Doing one by yourself is so awkward. Yeah. Yes. Because when you're with somebody, you just know to like, okay, put your arm around smile you look cute together whatever if you're by yourself you're like oh gosh everyone's looking at only me i don't know how to pose alone i'm it's not like you grew up posing on red carpets

or going to these events it's all new to us and so then they're like and they're like hey bonesa look over here oh oh let's see the back of your dress and you're like oh shit i know i'm like oh no yeah i'm not wearing the right underwear for doing a bag pick right now oh i know yeah i remember doing a red car one of my first red carpets was for um um CMA awards and to me I'm like I didn't know anything about hiring a stylist or having a makeup would you have a stylist I do now oh I think that's what I need he's in L.A he'd love him oh his name's Lowe oh low yeah I'm calling you after this he's great he's so great and you'll love him he's just a good guy yeah but yeah so I knew nothing about like oh I should have hired a stylist or hair and makeup I was like I'll wear a dress

that I wore from The Bachelor, and it was like this maxy dress that you'd, like, wear on the beach, and I ended up on the worst dress list or whatever, but you did it. Oh, absolutely. Well, at least you ended up on a list. I felt pretty cool about it. I was like, worst dress. I'm rad. I'm on a list. Yeah, I didn't care. But it was just, it's just so funny because not that you don't have style. I didn't, but you do. I mean, look, every day, I'm very comfortable. I love wearing jeans. I love wearing, like, a top. But on the red carpet, I'm like, I don't know what to wear. And plus, like, I'm very frugal. Yeah. So, you know, I didn't know at the time, I'm like, oh, I could contact a company and they can, like, give me a dress and I have to tag them.

I didn't know that. Yeah. So I'm like, I'll just buy a dress at $30 and wear it on the red carpet. Yeah. And that's what I did. That's the headline for my dress was she wore something out of her closet. I'm like, but is it that what people do? Is that like, I thought that was so, like, crazy.

I'm like, would do people not wear things out of their closet? I mean, I still do. I was like, oh, I'm good. Yeah. I'm like, Old Navy, I'll take it. I'm learning, I'm slowly but surely learning the tricks of the trade, but it's still, people, again, love relatable shit and they love that you wear $30 dresses, and that's what draws people to you as well. Yeah, I mean, why not? If that's what I, girl, everything I'm wearing, I think everything I'm wearing right now is under maybe $300 because I'm wearing a leather jacket.

Right. Mine's like, I'm like, I asked for these pants from Boratia. Oh my God, I didn't know. Oh, did they? The shoes, too? Yeah. Matisse. I love it.

By the way, she's wearing leopard. Leopard shoes. It's so hot. I love it. Thanks. But this is another thing. I'm like, I don't take pictures of my outfit all the time. I've worn this like the last five times I've gone out.

Smart. I mean, I do that all the time too. Actually, no, people keep calling me out on it. Can you not? Oh, gosh. Can you not? I'm like, yeah, I'm wearing this again because I have a washing machine. Yeah, exactly.

Like, well, first of all, I don't own confession. I do not own a lot of T-shirts. I own two t-shirts. Oh, three now because I got four, sorry, four. Okay, eight. Okay, no, I mean, so I own a white one, a gray one, a green one, and a purple one. And I own like, so the thing is, if I really like a pair of jeans or like an outfit, I'll keep wearing it until I get fed up of it. Or like, you know, like when you like a favorite, like your favorite meal, you'll keep eating it until you get fed up of it.

So I'm like, this outfit looks good and I'll probably get annoyed of it in two months and then I'll switch, whatever. I do the exact same thing. It's so hard until I'm like over it. Yeah. And then I move on to the next one. That's my outfit right now. And I'm from living in New York. I came back.

I'm like, oh, all black all the time. Oh, my God. Can we talk about that? Okay. That is amazing. Congratulations. That's a pretty big deal. It was, I can't tell you.

Did you sing? Yeah. Can we hear you sing? No. I'm waiting. You said you would. You said you would. I'm waiting for the right time to like, like, show my voice to the world because

you are so talented. You have so many. layers to you it's incredible thanks i you know what it's it's been like a passion of mine since i was little to like perform sing dance all of that stuff like i did that my whole life and that's always what i thought i would do and so now like if you would have told my even five-year-old self that i was going to be like on the stage of broadway and like singing i'd be like okay that's what i'm meant to do and by the way guys you were also hosting the bachelor canada after show at the same time. Yes. So you were flying in and out. And I kept thinking about you because I was like,

oh my God, Wednesdays were your only days off. And you have to fly into Canada and then fly back to New York. I'm like, this girl is killing it. Like, I'm so proud of you. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. It was a struggle just because I was so drained. But like, I was doing so many things that I love to do that I honestly didn't get that. You're on such a high. Yeah. I was on such a, I crashed after, but I was on such a high that not one part of me, like when I had to get up at three in the morning to travel to New York, or to Toronto from New York, I was like, cool, can't wait to get there, love the Bachelor Canada team. And then I get to just hang out with them and then come back and, like, live my dream. It's incredible. So, yeah. What a great way to end 2017, too. It was the best. It was maybe too

good. I mean, you deserve it. The bar was so high that now, 2018, I'm like, I'm like, I'm doing a podcast with Vanessa. Like, no, my podcast is like the highlight of my 2018. I'm I'm trying to get the best guests for 2018, so you're doing just fine. But yeah, that was like too high of a moment where now I'm like, okay, what can I do after Broadway? That's tough to be. I mean, I'm going to release a song. That's what I'm going to do. There we go.

I mean, why don't we just start now? Nope. Okay. I tried, guys. The last year I've been like, I got to wait for the right time. But I'm going to do it. Are you saying? Because that was news to me.

No, I don't really. I mean, some people now, because I've talked about it on the podcast, and like I talked about it, I can't remember one. Some people know. But no one's ever really heard me like go for it. So did you sing, sing or were you lip singing when you were on Broadway? I was singing with a group. Okay. So it blended in. Yeah. So still. Except on the high notes, I would mouth it. You know what I do. What? Watermelon. Oh, I do potato. You do potato? Oh, no, it's watermelon. Watermelon. Watermelon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because it looks like you're doing like, you're enunciating, like, all the syllables and all that stuff. Except my brain is so weird that I remember, like, all song lyrics.

I'm so jealous. You'd be the best karaoke partner. Movie quotes and song lyrics. That's like my roommate. Really? She's like always quoting movies and I'm like, I get it. No, I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah, I'm like, what?

Yeah, I'm not really big into movies. I love. I'm not anymore, but. Yeah. What do you love? Oh. No, I have, I have like, a strong passion for. or the greatest showman.

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I'm going to have like a. Have a moment. I'm going to have a moment right now. Have a moment. Okay. I was having this conversation with my friend the other day. I was single for three years before going on The Bachelor, and those were the best three years of my life. I really learned the concept of self-love because at first I was like, yeah, I love myself.

But within those three years, I really learned a lot about who I was, what I wanted, what I needed, what I deserved. And I just really focused on my career. And I focused on filling my time with things that I loved. That's when I went back to university. I got a second bachelor's degree. I started working with spec ed students. and I was just in such a happy place and I remember my sister telling me before going on the show

she's like I'm worried that if you do the show you're going to lose your light and for a moment in time I did yeah and that happens to a lot of people coming out of the situation that you're in yeah or even just you know not being in the best of relationships you know not being with someone that's going to

make you shine brighter than right than you are already individually And it's tough because you know going into that show that that's what you want and that's what you deserve. You know that. And it's really hard for women to know that and to know that they deserve the best. So going into the show, you know your standards. And so coming out of a show like that, I find it really difficult because I even find, like, no matter if you're a bachelor or a bachelorette, the person beside you for some reason is like, and the fiancé, you know, like. Right.

And I find that would be hard. on any relationship coming out of that show that for some reason you're just not treated on the same level and it's like oh you were the lead and you're like yeah but I'm right there with them the whole time and you know it's and I feel like a lot of times I don't know if you find this in interviews it's like you're not even there I felt that in a couple of times where it's like oh Vanessa what are you doing I'm like oh I have this charity and they're like okay cool okay so you're in so-and-so and I was like yeah yeah and they ask questions that are like you know I'm sitting right here and this is a really tough time and that that would be really

hard we're real people here yeah yeah I think that well the whole experience itself I mean I will say this Nick was very supportive um with you know the aftermath of the show because he went through it a couple of times and he had his personal experiences that he was able to relate to to a certain degree yeah I think um As a woman, though, coming off of The Bachelor, we're a little bit more sensitive. I am at least. I'm more sensitive. So it was hard for me to just live a happier life in that time and appreciate things I were coming my way.

Yeah. And I remember thinking to myself, I miss me. Yeah. I miss being who I was before the show. And I feel like right now I'm finally back at that place where it's like I'm just, I'm lighter, I'm happier, I'm, you know, carefree and I'm back to being, I'm back to being me. Because during that transition too, that's like the hardest. People don't understand because no one will ever understand anyone's circumstance or whatever until you're in it.

So even myself, I would never understand your situation, you know, but it's so tough to come out of that and just be happy because you have to be on. you have so much pressure on the relationship people are like oh why weren't you guys happy on the after the final rose um because this is the toughest thing i've ever been through with anybody and like why is that why i should be like wait is that a comment that you got everyone gets okay because i i mean it was funny once we did our at the after show um i went into it thinking like i'm not gonna pretend i'm i'm not i'm not good at pretending respect right yeah but we got a lot of backlash on that And Nick and I were like, you know what? Like, it's hard.

I mean, no one's going to come up here and be like, oh, my God, like, everything's fine and dandy. And I'm like, no, it clearly wasn't on the show. Like, we had our struggles and, you know, it's even harder now coming off the show. So that was one thing. I was like, I don't want to pretend. I don't want to act like everything is fine. And, like, this is the ideal situation that every woman and man should go into. Right.

Because it's not. No. I mean, I went on, no, I went on the show hoping. for an experience and quite frankly I had no idea what the show was about right I never watched it and I was like oh let me see how far I could make it until I actually started having feelings for Nick and I'm like oh this is getting serious because you don't realize how real the feelings can get and that's what people don't understand after is they see your real feelings but then after they just want you to like be the happy perfect couple and they want to see all the happy moments

and and that's Sean and I actually found that really difficult too because like everyone's like, oh, you guys are perfect. I'm like, hell no, we are not. By the way, I do love you guys. So I, I, um, for people who are listening, I met you both, I think, at the wedding in Mexico, right, for Carly and Evan's wedding. And I, like, went back home and they're like, oh my God, how's Caitlin? Because, like, you have so many fans. And I'm like, she's amazing, but most importantly, I just loved the chemistry that you and Sean have together, you know? Like, it's, it's so real. Yes. And I remember, like, telling my friends back home, I'm like, look, I know some relationships like don't work out, but it's so, it's so inspiring to see that

your relationship with Sean did and is. And like, yeah, I know you probably, you guys have like your struggles and stuff, like any other normal relationship, but it's such a, you guys have such a breath of fresh air. Well, thank you. Yeah, we, I believe that we just are meant to be together. Like, even though sometimes we are like rock bottom because that's relationships and people never believe it because I don't put it out there. But like, that's part of life. And that's how we, we come it's on how you come out of that and I mean I can totally understand how relationships don't work from that show and I just think that if obviously it just wasn't meant to be and I think people really put so much focus on like why didn't it work and we know

why it didn't work and it's like but what does that matter because I'm in a better place he's in a better place we're not we're happier you know moving forward and you're probably grateful for the time that you had on the show and for the like I mean I think the best part of you coming out of that show is that you get to raise all this money and you know change people's lives yeah yeah i don't regret a single thing i mean as you shouldn't no and we're still on good terms i mean i'm so very supportive of him and there's no reason to have any bad blood no you know like you tried you guys tried we really did and and that's all you can do yeah and that's people always ask me if you if you could go back and do it again would you and my answer is always like yeah

because I got Sean out of it and my and my truth like I really don't know if I could do it again if I didn't get Sean out of that but then I'm like what if they asked you to be the Bachelorette would you do it? Nah. I mean, the answer you know the possibility of like a great relationship coming out of it. Right. I just I don't think I'm in even like they're I don't. Oh yeah.

I'm like how's your run. I don't think they would. consider me so i don't have to wait i don't think they would consider people they consider well i mean i don't think because i don't think they would consider me it's never a thought that i've ever had so it's not like ever have to think like oh what would my answer be if they were to ask i think they're going to ask you to be the canadian bachelorette i really do why well like i obviously was working with et canada yeah and bachelor canada after show and stuff and i'd always be like man Vanessa would be a great bachelor at Canada.

And I do think they get really great guys on that show. Yeah, I mean, they had pretty great guys on Jasmine's season. Great guys. Uh-huh. Which now two of them were on winter games. Oh, yeah, Benoit and Kevin. Kevin, her ex. That is so.

Jasmine's ex. Oh, right. Jasmine's ex. Yeah. That must be tough to watch, too. I mean, I don't know if she's dating anyone, but. Or she was. I don't know.

She's, have you ever met her? She's phenomenal. I've never met her in person, but we. we spoke on the phone and, you know, like, she went through her breakup and then I went through my breakup, so we had a moment. Yeah. But she's stunning. Oh, she's stunning.

Yeah. And she's so funny. There's something in the water in Canada. Yeah, I know. Cuck up. No, she's the most like laid back, chill, funny, gorgeous girl. Yeah. Totally like just, I don't know.

Like, if I was into women, I would totally hit her up. Totally. Me too. Yep. Totally hit up, Jasmine. Yeah, that's, are you watching Ari season? Nope. Are you?

Yes, but this is the first really, like, this is the first time I can watch and not get, like, severe anxiety. Oh, after this long. Yeah. Because I heard you had a pretty, you were open about it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was, like, I was pretty depressed after. But the show just gives me, like, the PTSD. Like, you, that's a real thing.

Oh, girl, we drove past the mansion by accident the other day and I was like, I would see, I would still feel that way. I can't. Yeah. I would still feel that way. But this is, I've been able to watch, but it's, you're not missing out. I mean, so I watched like night one because it's always interesting to see like who's walking in and what kind of entrances they have. But no, I'm not, the thing is like, if it's not on Netflix, I'm not watching it.

I hear you. The only reason I am is because I really like to, like I know my audience, I know that everyone listening to me on the podcast probably is watching the show. I like to, you know, find common ground with my love. listeners and be on the same page. So I was like, I'm going to watch it this year and, like, get into it. Yeah. But you know what?

I read actually a great article. I think it was on the Hollywood reporter or something. Kareem Abdul. Mm-hmm. Jabar? Jabar. Jabar. Jabar.

Wait, hold on. Jabar. Jabes laughing at us. Okay. Oh, my way, does he play basketball? Yes. He plays European football. Yeah.

Yeah. something with a ball he but what's funny is that he like is such an advocate like bachelor watcher wasn't he on the rachel season oh yeah he was okay yeah oh yeah totally forgot about that yeah you're right so he wrote an article that was like about watching the bachelor in the like hashtag me too era and that it's just not matching with the time we're in and he was like rachel like was more you know it was like the first african-american it was time it was like you know she she was what the bachelor needed And then when it comes to Ari, and I don't want to come down on him or be rude, I don't really feel like I'm watching him. He's not disrespecting women, but it's just not matching up with the times.

You know, like I feel like they need a bachelor that's like very articulate and can talk about his emotions with these women and can have conversation and can like empower them. But I'm really feeling like, and this is what Kareem was saying. I'm acting like he's my friend, Kareem. He called you last night and told you this. Yeah, yeah. Karim told me slash I read it in an article but like he was right it was like it's just not matching up and it doesn't seem it feels like we're setting ourselves back in the bachelor world instead of moving forward right I mean I haven't seen the season so I have no idea but I have heard that it's not what people were expecting it to be yeah um it's just not I he seems like he is probably a really nice guy and I'm not saying he's not a catch right and you you know how it goes to with the whole like you see a very one dimensional version of the person and i'm very fortunate for the version that they showed of me but they didn't show my light side

and my fun and happy like and outgoing like and i don't give a fuck side yeah yeah they show that other side of me where it's like yeah that's me but it's not all entirely me so to a certain extent i don't know what they're showing of ari but one dimensional is a very accurate term to use when if you're going to be a viewer watching the show just knowing that i mean i'm guilty I watched, like, episode one, and I was, like, commenting on certain things. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, well, Vanessa. Like, you are in these women's shoes. You know what it is.

I know. I do the same thing. And it's like, oh, shit, I forget what it's like to be there. And I remember doing one of my interviews while we were filming. And I'm like, anyone who's watching this from home will never understand the magnitude of, like, what it, the impact that it has on you. Yeah. And that was actually the first time I started journaling. I never knew, like, I mean, I knew what journaling was.

but I'm like, oh. It wasn't something you considered. Never considered doing it. I remember that my first journal entry was like, the walls are blue. And I'm like, what the fuck am I writing? I have no idea when I'm supposed to ride in my journal. Am I supposed to like record things like that I would be normally recording on my phone? Because everything, like your whole life is taken away from you as soon as you walk into that hotel room.

Yeah. Oh, I just had such a great idea for a segment on the podcast. I'm going to do dramatic readings of my journal. Oh, yes. Do you still have it? Oh, yeah. It's funny. Oh, wait.

When you were on the show as a lead? I have both. Both. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm sure you have such good shit on that. It's so funny. Like, night one in the hotel.

Like, you know how they put you in a hotel for three days before you enter the mansion and you just have to sit there and, you know. Do nothing? Do nothing. And no phone, nothing, obviously. And I would sit there and write in my journal and I'd go, I know what they're doing. I know they're just trying to get us in our own heads right now. And they're not going to fool me. And like, it's so funny to read back.

Yeah, I know. I know. And there's some things that happen that obviously they don't air. And I'm like, oh, my God. I can't believe I forgot about this day. Well, because then you probably forget a lot of what even happened. Like, I blacked out. That's what I say all the time.

I'm like, I don't know about anyone else, but I completely blacked out. I don't even. Who was I telling this to? I think I was talking to Christine about it. I'm like, I feel like I've never, I never did the show. I totally understand that. I did two. And I still, I'm like, right.

Yeah. first one completely blackout all I remember is what was shown on TV right like other than that I'm like yeah couldn't really tell you what happened I know I'm like I don't feel like I ever did it yeah and it's been a year do you feel like sometimes if you try and like fall asleep you start thinking back on like in the mansion and then you're like nope my brain can't go there nope no no you don't do that no my brain tries to like go but it's too it's like I can't access the feelings of what it was like I will say this though um one thing that I loved about the show the therapist having therapy dr selden yeah I love dr selden I know yeah I absolutely adore her I think she has like an affinity

for Canadians too no she does yeah yeah she was really helpful yeah yeah she was really helpful um and that was the first time I ever did any form of therapy oh girl yeah therapy is the best I know trust me I know But I'm also like, once we did the show, my grandfather had passed away like a couple of weeks before and I was like really reluctant on going because my dad wasn't feeling well. Then my sister and then like, you know, I'm like, then the phone was taken away. So she was like, I went to her. I'm like, I don't know what to do. Like I have such anxiety with like what's going on back home. So it would start with that and then it would start with like, you know, processing all the stuff that was happening during the show.

And we actually did therapy. I did therapy individually. and Nick and I did couples therapy together after the show. Yeah, so do we. Yeah, and I think that's such an important thing to do. I think the show should pay for it. I think that show should set you up for success and they should set you up with a therapist and be like, this is actually in your contract to do this just to make sure you're taking.

To maintain it. Yeah, yeah, I will say that. So I did not want to get engaged on the show. And I had a- What do you mean like during? Oh, yeah, during. Oh, I'm like, I don't want to get engaged on the show. And Nick and I were having this conversation.

and I said, you know, I am falling for you. I just, the concept of getting engaged after two months of knowing each other and barely knowing each other, because, you know, you don't get to see the lead that often. No. Yeah. So whatever time we do spend together. And like, we had such amazing. My favorite times with him were just when we were hanging out on the couch or just like not really doing anything that like, you know, flying on an airplane.

That was great. But, or floating in the airplane was great. But you're not really getting anywhere. But for me, like the moments of like taking off and landing were the magical moments for me. And he said something really important. And I do thank him for it because I don't think I would have been able to have lasted as long as we did. He's like, look, coming off of the show, it was hard for him because of like, you know, the media tension and everything that goes on around and all that outside noise. And he's like, if we have the title of being engaged and having a ring, that's going to hold us to.

because we know we're going to have to fight harder and he was absolutely right that is a good point mm-hmm because you you are a different level of commitment I feel like yeah you know you're engaged it's kind of like really maybe a bad um sort of analogy but it's like renting a condo and buying one it's like yeah it's like we're buying one it's like oh that commitment is it's pretty strong because you're dating during the show yeah and when you're engaged that's like okay it's me and you now and we're in it yeah and we're going to do everything we can to make at work yeah and that's what the thing when people when it doesn't work people are like but why it's like but why do you need an answer to that it just didn't it just and and the thing for us it's like we

really loved each other yeah we really really did and it was heartbreaking like I think for me I have more um hurt and anxiety when it comes to like the breakup than than the show the whole process of the show yeah it was it was you know we were really we really thought it was gonna work yeah and the ending of anything you know i always say this the ending of anything is heartbreaking whether you meet someone and you have such a strong connection with them and it's after a week they stop calling you it's like it hurts because it's you know you put out those expectations out there and when it doesn't work out it's um it's heartbreaking it is heartbreak is one of the worst feelings it is because when you have a migraine you're like oh pop an advil i'm good i'll get i'll get

through it like when you're in a heartbreak you don't think you're going to get through it You don't. And in that moment, it's like, nothing anyone will tell you will make you feel better. Nothing. But I've gone through my fair share of heartbreak. And I remember telling myself, Vanessa, one morning, you're going to wake up and you're going to forget the feeling of that heartbreak. You know, that feeling of just feeling so low and alone. And it happened.

I remember that one morning I woke up and I'm like, I think I'm starting, I'm starting to get there. You have to believe that you will. Yes. I think that's the whole. And again, like you said, no one can say anything to you that will help. You have to know that you'll get through it and that there will be a day where you wake up and you're like, I got this. Yeah. Because I mean, I've gone through a couple heartbreaks too.

And it's just honestly, it's the most shattering, like, discouraging feeling. You're like, I will never be okay. And you know it's silly to say that? You're like, this is over a dude. Yeah. But you're like, that's just a true human emotions. Heartbreak is real and loneliness and sadness. But then you're like, I'm okay alone.

Right. And that's going to make me find, you know, you. People, I always say in their 20s, I'm like, you might go through like seven more heartbreaks. You don't know. You have to kiss so many frogs before you get to your prince. I mean, listen, I'm enjoying this time to myself. Am I, you know, open to dating? Yes.

Oh, yeah. And if it happens, it happens. You know, I think it's also an ego thing where you're like, oh, you're getting attention from someone. And then it's like you really want them to like you. But then you have to know what it is that you, what do you want? What do you need? Do you really want to be with this specific person or do you want to be with them because they're giving you the attention? I just want to like that out of you right now because I'm like, it's so true.

It's so true. Are you looking for something just to like fill your empty tank? Or can you fill your own tank first to find somebody that can keep you there? Yeah. Because that's when it's going to work. And my bladder is so full right now. I'm like trying not to move. You see I'm like struggling.

No. People pee all the time. Oh, are you sure? Yeah, of course. If you have to pee, go. How much time? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to go pee.

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You're listening to Off the Vine with Caitlin Bristow. Okay, we're back. All right, I just emptied my bladder. My bladder is weird. It's like I don't, I drink all the wine. Nah, minimal water. I'm not a big water guy.

I'm trying to get into water. I know. I try. I've been trying to. for years to get into water, but I just... You have to, like, bring a bottle of water with you, so it's, like, in your presence. I try that. Yeah, no. I hate it. It makes me gag. Fish have sex in it. I don't like it.

I never... Now I'm going to think of, like, baby egg, fish eggs when I drink water. Thank you. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, I'll stick to wine now. I just realized, you've converted me. While you were peeing, I realized that we also have not done confessions yet. My confession is kind of not really the greatest. I was like trying to think of confessions on my way here. And I'm like, I don't even know what to confess. I have some like really embarrassing confessions that I would know.

Oh, my God. No, one I was thinking of as I was peeing and I'm like, should I talk about this specifically? Yes. No, it has to do with poop. Well, I talk about poop all the time on this podcast. No, it has to do with poop like on my pants. Perfect. You've already said enough.

We might as well tell the confession now. All right. Not at all. I promise you on everything. Once you say, people will be tweeting me like, thank you for like, that's the best thing ever. It's so embarrassing. That's even better. All right, fine.

So I am not a morning person, confession. Oh, you too. Girl. I am not a morning guy. Minus the singing. But I'm sorry. The beautiful hair in Italian roots. So I'm not a morning person.

And if I have to start work at eight, I'll wake up like at 7.30. I only like showering at night. Hate showering. Yeah. I hate it. I hate it. I know. I was like texting.

I'm like, I can't really talk about how much I hate showering. But you know what? Fine. I'm here. Everyone knows I hate showering. The thing is, I hate having to wash and dry my hair. Because if I air dry my hair, it's the ugliest thing. It's stringy.

I don't believe you, but. No, no, it is. It's like, I need to blow dry my hair. So I'm like, ah, so much work. It is. It's very inconvenient. Yeah, it's super inconvenient. So, wake up in the morning, start at work at 8.

So I woke up at 7.30 and I get inside the car. And I'm sitting down, I'm like sitting down and I'm like, okay, so I can't start my day if I don't poop. Right. You too? No, but Sean. Sean. Yeah. Okay, so Sean feels, he feels me.

Yeah. So I took my morning poop and I go to work and I'm like, there's something that smells. I don't under. And I'm like, see. And I'm like talking to my co-workers, I was like, something is smelly around here. I don't know if I would smell it. And my co-workers is like, I don't smell it. I was like, I smell something.

I know I smells. I can't even say this. I can. I love it. This is so great. So then I'm like, let me go to the bathroom. So I went to the bathroom. I still don't know the ending and I'm so excited.

And I know. I know I'm going to cry. I noticed that you had poop on your friends. I love that you had such a hard time getting there to tell us you had poop on your pants, but you started the confession of saying you had poop on your pants. But you know what you're like pooping and then you're not done pooping? Yeah.

One like. Okay, I am not lying. I said on another podcast that is my favorite confession, this takes the cake. Oh, my God. This is the kind of... That's, like, my most embarrassing story, guys. That is the kind of confession that I long for. Oh, my God.

And it was like, I ran out of work and I didn't tell my boss. Now she's going to know. Well, she'll be like, okay, I understand why you ran. I was like, oh, I got to go home. I forgot my key. and so I went home and I was like this is the most embarrassing shit literally ever

I just have to thank you like these are the kinds of confessions I honestly just pray people have when they come on my podcast yeah I'm the thing is everyone has like some sort of embarrassing story but it's just like should I say should I not and whatever I said it's whoever has the balls

to say it you've got balls wait do you want to know what my original confession was yeah of course I tried to and I'm like yeah this is not going to, this is going to be a boring one now, but I tried to bar, I'm a really frugal shop. Oh, well, I'm sure you, I'm sure you have some interesting stories. Oh, yeah.

But my, um, original confession was I, I'm really big with like shopping under like $20. Mm-hmm. And I was at a store once and, um, I tried to bargain, um, a jacket that was 10 cents. No, you didn't. I did. What do you mean? I did. Oh, 15 cents.

So I walked. dime I was like keep the change at one point so I walked into the store and there was a rack of jackets and it was mistagged instead of it being 150 dollars it was point one five zero so it's like oh my god they mistagged it and I'm like oh I'm going to the cash and I'm taking it and it was at a store where it's like the customer's always right so I walk up to the cashier and I was like so your policy is the customer's always right right and he's like yes ma'am and I'm like pretending I'm this it wasn't in Nashville was in Montreal He's like, we madame.

And so I'm like, okay, so I'd like to buy this jacket for 15 cents. He's like, excuse me. So he like, he scans it and he's like, oh, my God, it is 15 cents. I'm like, well, your policy today is every jacket is 50% off. Stop. So I'm like, technically, I'm really bad I'm math. But technically it should be 17. 17.

I was thinking 75. 7.50. He's like, are you kidding me? I was like, all right, it's fine. I gave him a dollar. I gave him like a loony. I was like, all right, bye. Thanks for my jacket.

That was my original confession. That's pretty funny. Poop one's way better. Poop one's way better. Way more of a confession. I'm telling you, people are going to love you for sharing that story. They will love you for sharing the story. Mine, so let me just tell you, every week I have to confess something.

So mine have been like, mine have gone there. They really have. My only confession I could think of this week was that last night I was doing dishes and Sean was like could you bring home um dishwasher detergent and I was like sure and I forgot and then I got mad at him for dishes being in the sink and he's like well did you get dish detergent and I was like no and then I got all like defensive I'm like no why don't you just do this and I dumped um dish soap into into the where the detergent goes and our dishwasher overflow with bubbles oh my god that's so fun it was no okay well I'm pretty sure like really

We had been like, dang. It's like, it was a mess. No. Yeah. There's bubbles everywhere. Oh, that's, that's, that's not a fun night. No, but it's funny. It's not the fun bubbly night you, I'm sure you were expecting.

No. My girlfriend, Bree, she was on the, she used to be in radio, and now she, we were supposed to do a podcast, but now she's just a guest on mine all the time. And she was like, what, this is great content. And I was like, so mad about the bubble, she said, that's a great content. She's like, anytime I was on the radio and something happened to me that, like, I couldn't stand or something bad she goes okay well this is break talk it feels like a break in the radio so now I'm like okay anything that happens to me that's like bad or embarrassing I'm just gonna content own it

yeah break content I wish I had a better that honest honest to God favorite one of my girlfriends put a Kit Kat down there for her boyfriend to go down on her stop yeah stop yeah I love Kit Kat I'd probably be like oh you're like what's her name I'm sliding into your DMs her name is keeks with 16 E's keeks on Instagram. Oh my God. Is she one of the, like there's some people have like underscore like nine in a row like underscore. Yeah, she's like 16 E's. But you take the cake.

Oh, yes. You take the Kit Kat. So you're saying don't try Kid Cat. No, try it. Oh, yeah? Let me know how it goes. Okay. Heard it's pretty good, but you have to freeze it.

Oh. Yeah. Has to be frozen. Okay. Frozen Kit Katz. Jonathan, you weren't there for that. It was when I was podcasting in Vancouver. you're like

exactly exactly you'll forever remember my story yeah I know sometimes when I tell that story I was like I sat in someone's like on a kid's diaper or something because I like I try to like you know filter the story because it's so it's really bad

I just I can't tell you how much I appreciate your honesty you're welcome I mean I'd be honest yeah it's been real it's been real real great real great well we might as well do Keny Knotts while we're on fire We're on Uh, can you not?

Fayette, foiego. Yeah. We're on foiego right now, is what the kids say. Okay, so I thought it'd be funny because we're both obviously Canadian. If we did, can you not people who have never been to Canada, which, by the way, I think I've said it on the podcast before. Sean, can you not? He asked me when I met him. Wait, he's never been to Canada?

He has now. Oh, okay. And he had before. He went to Montreal to go to the strippers with his buddy for his, like, bats or party. Montreal is a place to be. guys if you have like a bachelor party or a bachelor party everyone comes or goes there i'm like in national yeah everyone like goes yeah i don't know where i am um so he he drove up there because i guess connecticut isn't too far and so they drove up for a bachelor party and so he's been

to canada and probably it was cold or something but he was like is it all frozen i'm like oh no can you not all right astrid i'm throwing you under the bus here i love astrid for my season but she's like So Canada is like, is it just like from the, like, it's part of like the U.S., right? Like it's only the east coast of the U.S. And I'm like, no, it covers all of the U.S. All the way to like Seattle and like, she's like, wow, I had no idea that Canada spread from like east to west over the map. I was like, can you not? Oh, my stop.

She had no idea that. She had no idea. And I had jeweler. I drew a map. And I was like, she's like, I grew up in Germany, whatever. We didn't learn about like, and I'm like, fine. Okay, that's fair. It is fair.

Because even as she grew up in America. Yeah, I mean, but Ashtra is a jeet. She's a very smart woman. So I was like, I thought she was joking. But I love her. I'll give you a pass on that one because he grew up in Germany. I love you. Oh, that's so.

She probably doesn't listen. No, she probably does. Hi. Hi. Hi, but can you not? Yeah, can you not? I were, I have like people like, when I was in Nashville last, they're like, oh, where are you from? Like, Montreal.

They're like, oh, Canada, I've never been up there. I was like, ever? Like, we're, yeah. I mean, someone from New York who says, like, they'd never been to Montreal. Yeah. It's like, what? It's an hour flight. Yeah.

Can you know? I feel like because they don't understand the beauty of Canada. I mean, I get it. It sounds boring. It sounds cold. It's beautiful. I love. I've actually never been out west, though.

Oh, what? I know. I know. But now that I'm in L.A., I'm like, oh, it's just a short trip. Oh, you have to. You love Vancouver. Oh, I love Vancouver. I love that.

I was really sad. sad when the Olympics were in Vancouver. I was like, I really wanted to. Did you go? It was the time of my life. I was there. I was in it. I remember being so hammered in the middle of a bar at like noon on a Monday swinging in a Canada flag. Like it was a hammock and just drinking scotch out of a little red cup. Like it was the best time of my life. Everybody was happy. Everybody was just like enjoying the city and it was like sunny but snowy and it was oh, it was everything. Magical. Are you watching the Winter Olympics? Yeah, in and out. I always have them on in the background, because I love the Winter Olympics, but I'm like, it's like comforting for me to just have them on in the background.

And then if Canada is doing something, I'm like, we-hoo. I know, I know. I was watching curling last night. I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, it's a lot harder than it seems. That's another thing. Another can you not? Yeah. Is the curling thing? Everyone's, it's apparently our sport. Apparently it's our national sport. No, can you not tell me, hey, do you live in an igloo? People seriously do that. I had that on a plane once. Uh-huh, really? Yeah, I'm like, no. I'm like, actually, yes, I do.

Wait, that sounds awesome. Yeah, it left you. I do that too. Somebody on a plane said to me, do you guys all live in Igloos? And I was like, I hope that's a joke. I hope you're joking. And he wasn't. They're not.

They're not. Actually, have you ever been to Quebec City where they have the Ice Hotel? No, but I've heard about it. Yeah. It's up. Was I in, it was like a little village. Probably. Was it, were you up in Quebec?

yeah yeah it probably was Quebec City but what's a little like town it's like a ski town it's kind of like oh Saint-Sauver or Chambla Tram Blanc that's where I was Yeah yeah wait oh okay I know someone else is up there This Kayla

Kayla was did you go with Kayla yeah okay You went yeah and then Pita and Max went Okay Oh yeah yeah yeah they were there like a couple months ago And Charlene is like always up there Oh yeah I love Charlene yeah I know she's done it does Canadian. I'm telling you.

I know. Something in the water I don't drink. That's why I don't have your guys' hair. Oh, stop. You have everything else. Just not the hair. Oh, please. Okay, here's another can you not that I had.

Can you not ask me if I know Mike in Toronto? Like, I live in Vancouver and that's on the other side of Canada. And by the way, Canada's like the second largest country. And people are like, oh, you're from Canada? Do you know Mike? Blah, blah, from Toronto? I'm like, are you stoops? Oh, or I get like, where was I the other day, a Starbucks?

And they're like, oh, do they have a Starbucks up in Canada? I was like, read a freaking book. What? I can't. No. Yeah, what? Kind of not. Yeah, can you not?

No. Or like, my taxi driver the other day. Oh, where are you from? Vancouver, Canada. Oh, it's pretty cold up there. A. I know. I'm like, Vancouver's actually not that cold.

It's pretty warm. It's on the west coast. And we don't really get snow. Lots of rain. Yeah, lots of rain. Yeah, I heard of that. I'm like, and A? Okay.

I know. This is so funny. Actually, you know, there's a lot of people from Montreal in L.A. My last Uber driver was from, like, a town right next to St. Leinar, where I'm from. I was like, oh, my God. He's like, yeah, I've been living out in L.A. for 14 years. And he gave me, like, a bunch of restaurants that Montreal people opened up in L.A.

Yeah. There's a huge community. Really? Yeah. I was, like, surprised. Who would have thought? I know. I know.

That's the only, one of the only other places I know in Montreal is Shattagi. oh my god why i had a friend that was he lived in vancouver but he's from there oh my god yeah that's like small and not many people know about yeah yeah i don't i never know how to say it either i'm like chatee chaturgy chaturgy chat chatea yeah chataggie what else do people say to you uh what else if people ask um what about the celsius people are like oh people are like oh what's that in fahrenheit i'm like okay america actually every does Celsius. I know.

That or like kilometers. Because I don't do miles. Do you do the miles now? No, I got pulled over once and they're like, do you know if that's your going? I'm like, not really because I don't get this whole mile thing. I'm sorry. Oh, I have another confession. Okay.

So at one point when I was dating my ex at the time, my boyfriend at the time, we were looking for houses and stuff. And so I was like a half hour late because I was stuck in so much traffic. So I was like speeding, but not really speeding. Yeah. And so I got stopped by a cop and he's like, you know how fast we're going? I was like, I'm so sorry, but it's like kind of burning down there. He's like, what?

I was like, have a yeast infection. Shut up. And he was like, bye. And he's like, nope, he's like, okay. And he still gave me the ticket and I'm like, you don't know what it is to be a woman. Oh my gosh. But I think men get yeast infections too. They do?

They do. Is that a thing? No, we keep looking at Jonathan and Jonathan's like, can you like just not count me in on this conversation? By the way, I did not have a yeast infection. I mean, I've never had one. But men get them. Yeah, men get use infections. He's like, yeah, I have one, too.

I know. But I have had a period. Is that weird? I don't know. It's weird. So, yeah, I did not have one, but I still got a ticket. Good try. Yeah.

Good try. Sometimes I think of, like, if I'm put in this scenario, what would I say? Because sometimes I get so nervous in the moment, and I'm like, oh, I should have said this or I should have said that. So sometimes I think of, like, some one-liners, I should say if I'm actually. ever in a situation yeah that one clearly doesn't work so women and men don't use it yeast infection yeah yeah it was a great attempt I'm gonna stop my confessions now nope it's all like bodily fluids people I'm like well I guess the secret's out for me like everyone knows I'm gross now so it's oh yeah I mean people are starting to know that I am too they're gonna be like

are all Canadians gross no they're going to be like oh we're all gross we just don't want to admit it yeah my other can me not was um can you not ask if we celebrate the 4th of July Oh yeah It's like unfortunately we do And I'm not sure why So one of my friends do celebrate it They like make hot dogs And we're like America's

Yeah and I'm like wait They don't do that for us No we celebrate We celebrate Saint Jean Batiste Which is like Quebec holiday Okay Like the Quebec like Canada I learned about that in school

Oh you did Yeah I did There's like the snowman You name something Oh I'm being a can you not right now I am Wait the snowman There's like a snowman

There's like a snowman that you guys Oh hold on Yeah I know you're talking about that's in Quebec City and that's during like this time of the year until March oh and I can't think of his name right now because I had a half a glass of wine so you are a lightweight that's I'm so jealous of you hold on wait a lightweight Italian who eats carbs with luscious hair and perfect skin cool yep yeah it's pretty cool it's great no it's not that great oh okay it sounds terrible yeah no it is do you have any more can you not can you not

I'm trying to see if I'm trying to think I have one No I thought of one and it disappeared go ahead Okay I'll give you time to think Somebody said to me at a restaurant once Do you think I could squeeze in a quick day trip From Toronto to Vancouver I'm like

No you cannot It takes about six hours to fly to Toronto But cool I mean you could do like Toronto Not even because if you have to go back from Toronto to Montreal It's not a day trip Five hour drive six hours depending how fast we're going And if you have a yeast infection, you know.

You got to put that in. You got to calculate that. Extra few hours if you have a yeast infection. No, I can't. Was that a burp? No, that was like a snort laugh. Unattractive. Whatever it was, it was unattractive.

I loved it. No, I can't think of another. Can you not? Okay. That's fine. We can move on. People have a lot of questions for you. All right.

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They're like, you represent Canada, both you badass babes. I'm like, angry. I love it. I mean, you represent the West. I represent the East. There you go. We are like Ice Cube and Snoop Dogg. Jonathan.

Fact check. Like Method Man and Red Man? Yeah, Method Man and Red Man. Yeah. Yeah. That's who we are. That's what I'm going to call you for me. Or we can be like Justin Bieber and Celine Dion or something.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Can I be Justin? No, you are? Yes, I love Celine. Oh, wait. Justin is also from... He's from the East. Yeah, he's from like Ontario somewhere.

Celine is from a really small town. I forget which one, but somewhere... Is it from Shatabee? No. I just made it up because it's only town I know. I don't know where she's from, but she comes from like a really big... God, I love Celine. I love her.

Yeah. So, quick fact, my dad owned a restaurant, Nichols. Yeah. Did you guys have that in the West Coast? can you not okay so we had it in a telling it's a deli um so my dad had it and she it was a franchise so she like was part owners what and she would go to every opening of the nickels so i met her when i was seven and she was the sweetest thing ever one of my really good friends barnet valseigne is her backup vocalist oh my god and she wanted to bring in someone from quebec and make them a star

too so she held auditions out and i think this is a story don't quote me but anyways he's from Montreal too and he's been with her for like 15 years and has nothing but just amazing things he says that she's the most down-to-earth person she'll like if she has like people over and like a group of 30 people she'll wash the dishes and not yeah so she won't put dishwasher soap in yeah she wouldn't she's not that stupid she's not that dumb she apparently that's amazing that's one of my um somebody i used to dance with his sister danced for seline really in Vegas for like years Yeah, she's still in, I was in Vegas a couple weeks ago, and we were supposed to go to her show, but it got canceled, and I was so sad. Oh, yeah, I would die to go.

I would do some very inappropriate things to go to the slinging concert in Vegas. Yeah. Like, wild things. I believe you, because I would do. Ask me what I would do, I'd do it. Just, you don't have to be. I'm putting you on spot. Michaela Stitz wants to know, how does, how did she start her nonprofit?

And do we already kind of go over that? What are some of the challenges and best moments running it? Any advice for getting involved with the nonprofit world and volunteering more? Okay. One of my biggest suggestions is to actually volunteer at a nonprofit or a charitable organization before you start your own because there's a lot of things that I had no idea we needed to do in order to get to where we are right now. So I wish I had a lot more experience in the non-for-profit world before, you know,

diving into it like neck deep. So that would be one of the suggestions I would be. do, do a lot of research, volunteer, and then obviously, like, do start an organization of something that you're extremely passionate about because it's not like, you're not getting paid for it. Right. So it's something that you have to be super passionate about. Yeah.

And it does take up a lot of my time. So it's my full-time job right now. Yeah, because the success will come if you're passionate about it. Yes. Yes. And at a certain point, like, I was a little bit overwhelmed with the breakup and all that. So I wasn't, like, fully immersed. Oh, what are you, a real human or something?

I know. I'm like, what? I have feelings. but I wasn't really involved with the whole Instagram world of it and people are like, oh, you're not doing anything. I'm like, oh, I'm like working so, yeah, like I'm working so hard. It's a nine to five job and especially now being out in L.A. and my committee's back in Montreal, I have to wake up super early in the morning to make sure I get the meetings in and all that. So there's a lot.

Good for you. Yeah, there's a lot that goes into it, but definitely volunteer and try to, you know, be as informative as possible before you start your own. That's great advice. Great advice. Thank you. There you go, Michaela. Christina Stelling wants to know. Hi, Christina.

If you could go back to the day that the bachelor started and tell yourself one thing, what would it be? The day I think it would be the same thing. I told myself, don't change who you are. I think there's so much pressure in this world, especially in normal life, especially in the world that we live in now, to not change who I was. And at times, like, I did feel like I was getting pulled certain directions. And I'm like, I don't want to get to that place where I forget and lose my values. So that would be what I would tell myself if I would ever go back into it again. Like, I did tell myself that and I would tell myself that again.

And I would tell myself. And, you know, I think I made a post the other day or the other day. I made a post the first day the new season started. I'm like, just stay true to yourself and stick to the people. That's always my advice, too. Just because we're going to say stick to the people. who knew you before the show and who love you and appreciate you for you. That was one of my biggest things coming out of the show was that so many people came out of

the woodworks and people still, people come into my direct message I used to follow like years ago and worked with for like two minutes. And I'm like, I don't have anything against you, but I just don't have the energy to bring you back into my life because I am so dedicated to my true friends and family and realize, especially who those people are after. Yeah. I think that's a really good point. The word energy, I believe in that.

Like, when you walk into a room, you know if, like, if there's good or bad energy and, like, read into that and understand that if you surround yourself with positivity, then you're going to be a much happier person. I am all about surrounding yourself with the right people. Like, that, I felt that way before going on the show. I feel like I have, I'm biased, but I feel like I have the best group of girlfriends. And everyone, I'll go home and see my closest friends. And I'm like, you are.

all just such important people in my lives and they're doing big things and meaningful things and they're all good, loyal people. And I've had a few friendships come and go in Nashville where I'm like, you used to me. Or like, you're not who I thought you were. And it's like heartbreaking because at the age of 32, you don't think you're going to lose friends or meet people who are malicious or, you know, going to do that to you. But they're all around. I call them vampire, energy vampires, but they just suck it out of you. They suck it out of you. They're soul suckers.

Yeah. Yeah, you want to stay away from those people. And you just like, you know, like stick to your gut. Your gut is always right. And sometimes our ego gets in the way it's like, ah, no, I'm not going to listen to it. There's a reason why you're feeling the way that you're feeling and just, and tune into that. Yeah. I totally agree with that.

Atley Matthews said, if you couldn't teach anymore, what would your ultimate job be and what would your life look like? Would you continue to make an impact on those around you? So right now I'm not teaching. So I'm happy with my decision of starting a not-for-profit organization. So that's something I would keep doing. Because you're still giving back in that same fulfillment of. Right. And I still feel like very connected to my students.

But I would love to host. I love, so I would host a couple of shows before I was ever a teacher back in Montreal. And I just loved hosting. Oh, cool. Um, so if I can, like, host maybe a travel show or something. Oh. Yeah. Why don't you start your own travel show?

I mean, I wouldn't even know where to start with that. I have an idea for you. I'll tell you after because I don't want anyone to steal it from you. Okay, okay, okay. I have, I totally have an idea for you. Okay. Okay. Uh, so that's your, that would be your, that would be your ideal.

That's cool. Job. Um, if I were, yeah. Brittany, Michelle Baker wants to know, um, on a bad day, what do you do to bring you yourself joy? Call my mom. Oh. Yeah.

So, I don't know. you saw my story today, like I woke up, I called my mom, my brother. Everyone was like, no one was answering me. And then I called my dad. I was like, I wanted him not to answer. So I could add it to the story. I was like, dad, why did you answer it? Um, for me being surrounded by my closest friends and family, um, really important. But also just like, sometimes, you know, you just want to be alone. Oh, I'm a big alone guy. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm, and you know, like, I came out here and I, you know, this morning like go let's do the podcast at 11 I was like uh I want to sleep in this morning and I literally just stayed in my room all morning until like three yeah and it just felt so good to

just like re-energize and I like the hotel life I like being in a comfy bed and knowing that if I want to call someone for food they're going to bring it to me exactly and just like recharge the batteries yeah you know recharge the old bats yeah yeah I think like and I will say this if you're having a bad day sometimes it's easy to just indulge in those feelings and like feel bad for yourself, yes, like acknowledge the feelings that you're feeling, but don't go down that deep, dark hole and like, yeah, and like go through like Instagram and like, you know, like just, just like get sucked into it. Do things that you know are going to better yourself and that's hard to do. Yeah. But be like, I know this is going to make me happier. So let me just stick to that.

Sometimes I've gotten to a point where I am, I'm very self-aware now where I'm like, I am feeling this way because and I know that's silly. And I need to come out. of it. And what I want to do is go down the Instagram suckhole and feel sorry for myself and have a little pity party and cry, but I'm going to meditate. Yeah, exactly. Which is taking me so long to do. Yeah. But I mean, I really, I, sometimes I'll have like a huge cry fest and I'll just let it all out. Oh, I love crying. I do too. In the shower. It's best. I just, you know, I cried this morning, but I cried because I was overwhelmed with like happiness. Oh, not me. Oh. Was it the dishwasher? I'm like very hormonal right now. No, I'm not.

pregnant that's the number one thing i love your post you're like because i'm per oh pretty full from eating too much yeah because i get so bloated i'm gonna call you next time i need like a caption idea because you're so witty yeah i'm all about it no you've great captions oh sometimes i do sometimes i'm like i have no idea what i'm doing but yeah well me too but those make the best yeah i know you cried this morning out of happiness that's amazing happy tears are the best happy happy tears are the best but i would say like i cry once a week oh yeah i would say i'm about the same yeah Once a week. Because I don't like holding in any anger or any, like, I don't like holding in any emotions.

I like to either talk about it. Yeah, I either have to talk about it or cry about it. Me too. Yeah. Actually, I cry more than once a week, but not for like sad reasons. Right. Like I cried four times during the greatest showman because I was so overwhelmed with how good it was. I have to watch the show.

Is it on Netflix? No. Oh. But you have to see it in a theater. Where is it on? Oh. What's that movie? Yeah.

Okay. And it's one of those movies you have to see. And at the end, every day I listen to soundtrack. And I'll cry. I cry more than once a week. But I'm like, but it's like good cries. I'm not like, I am miserable. I'm like, shit.

I am an emotional human being with real feelings. And I'm getting moved by songs. Because you're an artist. Because I am such an artist. I always say, I live in Nashville. So I am a singer. You are. Jessica Medicus.

Would you ever go on Paradise or Winter Games, P.S. Love Her. Oh, I love you. Would I ever go on Paradise? No. Yeah. What I ever do Winter Games? I was asked. Oh, I was wondering.

Yeah, I was asked. But then I was like, it was also like a couple of months after the breakup. And I wasn't ready. Yeah, I wasn't ready to date. And the whole concept of The Bachelor is like to date. It's too soon. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't.

want to be that person that gets a date card. I'm like, oh, no, I'm just here for friends. I feel like, I kind of want to ski. Yeah, like, oh, let's go snowboarding. But I, no, I didn't end up doing it. So no and no. But never say never. I will say this.

Never say never. I never thought I was going to do The Bachelor. Right. I did. There you go. Don't regret it. Loved it. Felt in love.

I think Justin Bieber said, never say never. He did. I will never say never. Another real Canadian hero besides us. And Celine. And Celine, duh, the number one. Lexi Overstreet said, can she write a book because I will buy that? Oh, my God.

You should. I wouldn't even know what to write. You would have so much material. Go back in your journal. Oh, yes. I'm telling you. I can probably just sell my journal. We can all write books coming out of that show.

We can all write a book. We all do. Yeah. We all do. Adrian Hess. Tell us about your worst date. Those stories are always great. Oh, my worst date.

I'm pretty lucky. I've never had like horrifying dates because I'm also someone that doesn't make things awkward. Are you people pleaser? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I can relate to that. Like if it was a bad date, I'd somehow be like, I'm going to make this.

Yeah, let's reverse this like, oh, okay, like how can we make this better? I will say, so in Quebec, I don't know how it is in Western Canada, but in Quebec, when you go out to a restaurant, if you're a couple or if you're even a married couple or a group of friends or whatever, they'll all, they'll always. give you your individual bill, not like one communal bill that you have to like split at the end of it and like, oh, how many, you know, like, they always give you. They always. Oh, interesting. So I was on a date once and it wasn't like that. It wasn't a fancy restaurant at all. First of all, I'm very easy to please take me to like McDonald's and give me a putteen and I'll be like, oh my God, let's get married. So I, we went to this restaurant and I always order the least expensive thing. Just in case, like, they do want to pay for me. I'm like, I don't want you to think I'm taking advantage. This is so funny because I

I honest to God think this is a Canadian thing. I used to do the exact same thing. Really? People pleasers, yeah. So the waiter comes at the end of the meal and he's like one or two bills and he looks at me, my date and was like, two bills. And I was like, so mortified. I know.

I was like, what? I was so mortified. And I felt so stupid. I was like, no, it's fine. One bill. And so I ended up paying for a date. And he felt so bad. And the restaurant was in a shopping mall.

So he's like, I want to buy you something to like make up for it. I was like, no, it's fine. Like, I, you know, I, you ask me out. Women can pay for the bill too, guys. But, I mean, like, if you ask someone out, I don't know if it's like in our culture, Italian culture, if I'm inviting you for dinner, I'm, and you and you're like 10 friends, I'm paying for all of you. Oh.

Yeah. I like that. If you invite, so if you invited 10 people to go for dinner, you would be like, I'm going to pay for this. Okay. Yeah. I like, yeah. Yeah.

So I was like, no, it's fine. Like, you invited me for dinner, but I got the bill. And I think he was a little bit embarrassed. and then I don't think this was like 10 years ago or something yeah oh my god 10 years ago oh I know I get when I think back on like 10 years ago Caitlin dating and I'm like you like I don't even I like you must be the most fun person to date I'm pretty fun yeah you are I know that's fine I'm like I would date you but then I think of like now I'm like oh man I'm the girl who's like get your dishes out of the sink and like why is this wet towel on the floor because I'm kind of

a neat freak, but I'm also... Oh, are you? This is the weirdest combination you'll ever hear. I'm kind of a slob, and I'm kind of a neat freak. Okay. But it doesn't make my chance. Are you a slob in the sense that you will leave dirty dishes, like smelly dishes, or just like things I will pile on?

Things will pile on. I hate dirty dishes in the sink. It's like Oprah once said that that's like dirtier than your toilet, and it's stuck with me. So dirty dishes really bother me, but like I'll pile up my bathroom with dirty clothes. and it won't bug me right I love that you just quoted Oprah I love Oprah I love Oprah too did you hear her speech yeah oh yeah I know I was like a president yeah I'm obsessed with I'm who isn't in love with Oprah I know like if you're not you're lying with you you're lying

if you if you say you don't love Oprah but that was the one thing um when I went into the bachelor world and I didn't think you'd watch TV apparently you can in the hotel room but I didn't know so I didn't even turn on my TV and ever no I was told that like from the outside world I was told like you can't have a phone you can't have a book you can't read magazines that was inside the mansion so for those three days in a hotel they took my phone away so I'm like I must not be allowed to watch TV and so I didn't turn on the TV you're such I didn't know you're such a goody two shoes I'm not I don't know what I thought like I just wanted to like follow the rules at that point right because you don't want to get kicked off like right

right I would exactly which happens it does there's there's people that wait in three days in a hotel room to be told like sorry we're not bringing to the mansion right so I was I was like, I'm going to follow the rules, and I would hide Oprah's book under my pillow. But you could, you, you were able to bring books. I put the radio on the clock, uh, at the hotel room. I put it on volume one and would read Oprah. And if producer came to my room, I'd like quickly shout it off and shove Oprah's book under my pillow and be like, yeah.

Not doing anything. No, I'm not reading Oprah. You are. Oh my God. I know. Yeah, no, I didn't. I listened to the. radio and watch TV yeah people were like going to each other's rooms I was like I was not

that gutsy I would just stand for hours I would work out my room then I'd stand for hours of the people and be like who's gonna pass the room I know I would always do that but at a certain point then you start like when you start traveling you're able to room with someone so D and I would like D and I and Taylor would room together D Danielle and Maltby Taylor Taylor oh Danielle and was the girl who's on paradise yes and Taylor I met from bachelor can't yes hold on so you're a huge big brother fan oh my gosh this was that in your notes yeah i skipped i'm like how do you know uh jody oh my god so wait do you know jess and cody for big brother so they have the same publicist oh and i love them and that's like another i didn't watch big brother

but apparently they um i don't know if the editing was i don't know what kind of edit they got on their season let me tell you my creepy confession i watch them on live feeds and i actually it i went back and forth because I was like I don't know about that you know you question like right honeymoon phase relationships I love them yeah and they're engaged there yeah I was like when I saw her post I was like you bitch you didn't tell me you posted it before you told me and she called I was like in tears I was so happy for them he's such a great guy I'm literally always yeah I'm always their third wheel she's like oh let's go for coffee I was like sure and I'm like oh my god yay it's going to be me and jess and i'm like oh nope cody's here and she's like i brought you the dog

oh i was like they have a dog yeah she had a dog i think it's like a mix of a poodle and something but they just got engaged they're super happy they're so exciting they're so in love they're yeah that's i hung out with mark and elena the other day who were on their season they're like i was like they're like they're like they're like they're like they really are yeah they really are i met them uh i was around my birthday weekend and we just like yeah your picture was hilarious hilarious you were in the third will it was so good we automatically clicked and I'm like I love you guys they're they're really good people I'm so happy for them that's awesome well congrats to them I'll love to have them on my podcast so tell them come on oh my god they're actually in Nashville I saw that on Twitter today but they're like so when I had FaceTime them I'm like I totally forgot you guys are in Nashville but they're four hours away somewhere far oh okay maybe they're on Nashville I don't know I they're like somewhere but uh Dee Danielle is dating Polly from Big Brother oh my gosh I just saw that too yeah oh yeah oh yeah wild. Isn't that like worlds colliding of people who like love reality

TV? Where does he live? Because she lives here, doesn't she in Nashville? She lives in Nashville. And he lives, I think, in New York or New Jersey or something. They've been dating for a while or no? They, I don't know how long they've been dating. A while being like a month. I know. Like, when Bachelor World, that's like forever. I don't know. So like when are they getting engaged? I know. I don't know how long

they've been dating but he, like we FaceTime together. I met him through FaceTime and he was so sweet with her. Oh, good yeah because she's honestly i met her at carly's baby shower she's very sweet she's very an angel yeah she seems like an angel i kind of want to like be creepy and befriend her just because she's in nashville and i'm like oh my god you totally should i think she was saying i was like i'm going on katelyn's podcast and she's like oh my god i'd love to meet her again and like hang out with her i'll have her on for a great therapy podcast where i recap the bachelor and then we

can start our friendship there we go okay cool i just feel like i did this for you guys you're doing the lord's work thank you match mcgown Make me a match. Amazing. Last question, Dassey, K.C. Tell us all about your skincare fitness makeup and just generally for any self-care tips you have. It's so funny because you're just blessed with beautiful skin. You just are.

You're beat. No. No, I, look, when I was growing up, when I was growing up, I sound like so old. Back in my day. Back in my day when I had face acne or no, forehead acne. What do you call that? Fackney? No, I don't know.

I just made that out. Zitz on the old forehead is what I like to call. So I had like, I had like zits on my forehead and I was going through puberty and all that. And then I started, I realized that the importance of like cleaning your face every night. Yeah. And like, oh, I'm a religious face washer now. Yeah. So I, my makeup, my skincare routine for my faces every night I will either use.

I have like that. This is not promote. But I use like that the facebrush Oh vanity plan I use vanity plan Okay you do Because they that's my whole thing is if I am going to promote something

I'm going to believe it first I was going to ask you Okay so the lash boot Like the eyelash stuff Oh gosh lash food Is it work? Lash food is everything Is it organic? Is it okay It's vegan it's everything

It's the best thing and they sell it at Sephora Oh they do? Promotional yes lash food I have to buy it because at one point I started losing eyelashes at one um that's why i started using it because were you wearing like fake eyelashes and then it yeah so for e every thursday i would wear fake eyelashes and i think it's also because i curl my eyelashes so anyway so i want to use that um so i wash my face every night i scrub um and i use every night and every morning i wear under eye um cream serum no not i use i don't use serums

under eye cream yeah under eye cream and just moisturizer i'm not into serums i feel like my face doesn't respond well to oils and serums Okay. So I haven't found like that good combo yet. That's part of the thing is knowing your skin too. Yeah. Yeah. So your skin routine might not work for somebody else's skin routine.

I suggest back in Montreal we have like a pharmacy where they can detect what kind of skin you have. And I had like really dehydrated skin. So I needed products that would hydrate my skin. So ever since my skin's been really hydrated, I don't break out as much. Obviously I'm less stressed. I don't break out as much. And after the show, I had to go to a dermatologist for the first. first time in my life I was getting like a craters around my mouth no like they'd have to like they're

like do you want a cortisone shot like because they would be so big and so terrible and like Sean would even be like go to my dermatologist like he knew how bad I was suffering with my skin and I've had we have great skin now I had great skin before I had great skin my whole life till the stress right and it was all around my mouth and under my chin which is like stress and yeah I'd go to dermatologist now I'm like fine yeah no no your skin is yet you're glowing Thanks, so are you. She's not pregnant. Again, not pregnant.

So, yeah, and then that's what I do to wash my face at night. Every night I wash my face every morning. Oh, yeah, so in the morning, I don't wash my face with a face cleanser. They say the natural oils that your face produces at night to not get rid of them. So I just wash my face with water. Yep. Oh, look at that. That's good.

Okay, so face wash at night, cleanser. Nothing in the morning, just warm water. And then a little eye cream, a little moisturizer. A little moisturizer. A little moisturizer. A little eye cream. Little goes a long way. Yes. Okay. And then I, my makeup routine is. I'm like writing this down. Okay. Little goes a long way. Period. And for my makeup routine, it's pretty simple. I use like maybe five products. So I have my undryed concealer. I have like, I have pretty dark under eye circles I find. And it's also have translucent skin.

Oh, yeah. So I have to find like a good combination of like a little orangey, you know, under eye concealer. That's going to like Sephora can help too. Because they are like professionals. and they can tell you. They know what you need. So I use that. I don't own foundation. Shut your freaking mouth. And I will say this.

You know why? Because my mom never wore makeup. And my mom looks like my sister. She's so, she looks really young. She's like almost, I'm not going to say her age. But she's not my sister's age. So my mom is like I never grew up wearing makeup. And she would always tell me like, make sure you don't wear makeup because it's going to

age your skin. And so I was always. Yeah, I was always a minimalist when it came to makeup. And it's also because. like I'm lazy. Yeah. So I don't want to look. I want to be able to look the way, like during the day, I want to look at the way I look

during the day at night. So I don't want to have to like put that extra work. You're just every man's dream. Well, it's just, it's also laziness. It came from. Do you also only have three pairs of shoes? No. Okay.

Definitely not. But, so I don't own foundation. So that's another big thing where, that's why I don't think I break out because I'm not clogging my pores. That's incredible. that you don't wear. But I wear bronzer. Okay.

Bronzer that, and it gives me life because, like, trust me, like, I look like a goblin when I wake up in the morning. But you wear, like, you know, a couple of products on your face and you're like, oh, I look alive today. So I wear bronzer and a blush. And then my favorite mascara is from Urban Decay Perversion. Okay. And I curl my eyelashes, because if not, my eyelashes are, like, stick straight. So I think that's why I'm losing eyelashes. Yep.

That'll do. Yeah. Well, luckily you're naturally gorgeous. Oh, please. And what about your fitness routine? I, before going on the show, I would work out like three to four times a week. I will say this. You were a gymnast, too.

A dancer. Oh, you're a dancer. So I was a gymnast before. So you have muscle memory. Yes. Yeah. Put your kids in gymnastics. Yeah.

It is crazy. I lift like. The discipline, too. Yeah. I like the idea of putting whatever my kid wants to do. But like I like the discipline of, of, of. committing to a class of something. Yes.

Yes. So I started gymnastics when I was in grade four, a little bit all through high school. And I think the muscle memory has really helped. So I love like any form of training. I'm not like into yoga. Now I'm in L.A. And I'm like I should be doing yoga and Pilates and bar classes and all that. But I'm more into like lifting heavy weights.

Cool. So girls are afraid of weights. and I always get annoyed at that because that's when I've seen the most result in my body overall is lifting weights, not cardio. Yeah, no, I don't do cardio. Not eating less. It's eating more in lifting weights is when I've seen the best results for my body. And I will say this, like my skincare routine, you know your body best, so you know what's

going to work best for your body. I do not look good if I lose five pounds. People are like, oh, my God, you're shriveling. Like, oh, my God, you look sick. Eat a chain smirk. Yeah, like, no, it's like, if I'm stressed, I'm going to lose weight. Yeah. And whatever I eat, like, I just, I won't, like, keep it on.

so I need to work out in order to maintain my weight. You've got, okay, I'm going to stop being creepy. I was going to be like, you've got a great figure. You got, like, a small waist and, like, you got that booty. I will give you that. I'm tiny, I've got hips and a butt. Yeah. But my boobs are like, well, girl, okay, a confession.

Okay. I do not have big boobs. I wear, do you know, do you guys have this in West Coast? not Victoria's Secret, freaking... La Cenza? Yes. Water bras? It is, literally, it's bulletproof.

Like, you can punch me in my boobs and I won't feel a thing. I used to do that. I honest to God, I used to wear padded bras. I've got like one of my $800 lashes in my eye. I used to do that. They look great, though. Oh, thanks. I love my small boobs now.

And that's, I think as you get older, you start to appreciate, like, I have so much cellulite on my ass and my I have cellulite everywhere on my calves on my I was talking about this last night with the girls I'm like yeah I got cellulite on my calves like who has cellulite on their calves but I mean if you eat as much gluten as I do then you're going to have that but yeah I'm like whatever I'm going to own it this is the way I was made I'll tell you something when I was 19 I was bigger than I've ever been in my life I had people thought I got my wisdom teeth taken out because my cheeks were so chubby I had zero cellulite zero zero zero my butt was perfectly round but cheeks were so round like everything as I grew older I'm like oh my gosh like cellulite I'm a tiny human I have cellulite down

my legs on my butt same I've got a huge dimple on my left side of my butt cheek like huge like it's like an indent I can feel it when I just touch my leg like it's oh yeah if I was wearing a skirt right now because my legs are I don't wear I don't cross my legs if I'm wearing a skirt because like right here it'll be like a bunch of stuff I'm like I feel it right now over my jeans yeah but that's just life yeah and I'm like you know what I'd rather have I'm like I'd rather have meat on my body yeah than like I don't know and that's a thing when people see photos of me they're so quick to judge because I have skinny arms and I'm like actually I'm the healthiest I've ever been in my freaking life and it doesn't it suck that you have to like

I don't have to but I'm like you know what If I was sick and something was wrong, I would not be okay if people are calling me out. But I'm like, God, I'm like the healthiest I've ever been. I'm going to stand up for myself because how dare you? Well, my sister too, my sister's like five nine, five ten. Oh, wow. And she's like, she's your figure. Imagine like tall, you know, and she eats so much.

And she hates it when people are like, oh, my God, why don't she eat? She's like, yeah, I eat a lot. And it's like some people. And that's what I find so frustrating. So when you see someone who's heavier, you're not going to say like, oh, you're big. never but if you see someone who's thin you're going to make fun of their weight and it's like i i had such an insecurity growing up because like we were i come from an italian family if you're not like you know a little chunkier it's like oh you're sick so and it's so funny when we went

for hometown dates my my sister actually told my grandparents do not tell vanessa she lost weight if she lost weight yeah because because the culture it's like they're not even trying to be offensive they're just like why aren't you eating yeah and so like they've been getting they're a lot better now with that and the last time I was home my ground there's like oh you look so good and I was like you're such a liar you're liar but thank you yes but I'll take it yeah yeah people are just I mean everyone's gonna you could eat an apple on social media and people will find a way yeah like oh my god GMO like oh my god I can't believe you're eating exactly it's like did you wash the yeah what did you wash it what did you just regular tap water huh you bitch yeah fish had sex in that water yeah oh you whore

You're such a whore. I will say, I was doing an interview once and I was talking about the concept of like self-love and all that. And how important it is to love yourself despite the situation that you're in. So if you're five pounds heavier, love yourself. If you're five pounds lighter, love yourself. If you're working a job that you hate, still love yourself. Love yourself in every situation that you're in. And then you're going to get to that better spot.

Because if you start to like have, you know, mix emotions about it or. you know, have that self-pity, then you're not going to be able to reach that potential that you have. There are two quotes I try and live by. One is if you get the inside right, the outside will fall into place. And my other one is I would rather be hated for who I am than loved for someone I'm not. I love that. Those are two that I really have to go back and like manifest in those because I'm like, I get so mad at people body shaming. Not because they're hurting me. I'm not like, oh my God, she thinks I'm too skinny. I'm not, I don't care.

Just like, it bothers me for society that women can be so cruel to other women. Exactly. And not empower each other. I, um, I find it upsetting the idea. Like it's, it's for me, it's the act of. And I'll relate this back to a relationship, you know, like when I was in a relationship, my, my ex-boyfriend would buy me a kid cat. I don't know.

I do actually love kids. he would buy me a KitKat and I'm like thank you for the KitKat but it was not even the KitKat it was the fact that he thought of me when he saw the KitKat that is the most romantic thing so same thing with like people who are writing things on Instagram it's the act like you actually thought about it and process it and made it go to your fingertips to your keyboard that to me is disturbing quick reminder about the sponsors from today's podcast bright sellers 50% off your first box brightsellers.com slash off the vine, Microsoft Teams, your hub for teamwork in Office 365, visit office.com slash teams to learn more.

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Yeah. But he didn't say anything. He just let out a little wine. Oh, I mean, my wee is kind of like a wine. You're right. Like, wee. You're right. Oh, I was picturing him being like, wee.

And that is a little wine. Yeah, it's a little wine. Yeah. I like that. So you got the right. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Thank you so much for being part of this podcast.

Thanks for having me. This is so much fun. And you're so good at this. I just, I live for it. I love talking to people and women especially. I love hearing stories. I like being a safe place and to have conversation. And I know a lot of people will take a lot away from this podcast from you.

So thank you. Your poop story. Just they honest, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for all of your honesty. And you're a very empowering woman. You really are. And I was drawn to you even when I didn't watch the show. I was just like, Canadian, yes. Strong individual.

You know, you're very like, you can tell you're just a level-headed. self-aware, independent woman. Thank you. And I'm just happy we met. Same here. Right back at your sister. Same here. Guys, I'm Caitlin Bristow and I'll see you next Tuesday.

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