Off The Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe - Whitney Bischoff Angel

Episode Date: July 23, 2019

Today, "winner" of Season 19 of the Bachelor, fertility nurse and mother, Whitney Bischoff Angel hangs out with Kaitlyn in Chicago. Whitney talks about having gotten her fill after 15 minutes of fame and her desire to return to her career after the show. Kaitlyn is shocked when one of her games helps Whitney find out the useless skill she never knew she had. And Whitney shares her struggles with anxiety after the birth of her son and the importance of opening up about it. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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from winning over Chris Sol's heart and America's hearts in the process on season 19 of The Bachelor. She has continued her amazing career as a fertility nurse, helping women, including myself, empower themselves for their future fertility decisions. She now lives in Chicago with her hot husband,

I just added that part of it. Hot husband, Ricky, her dog Lily, and her beautiful... Sweet baby angel boy Hayes. You can follow her life and see her adorable family at Whitby 64 on Instagram where she always keeps it real and authentic. Please welcome to the podcast, my friend Whitney Angel. Hello. Formerly known as Whitney B. Whitby.

Whitby. Were you, no, you're the only Whitney on our season. You weren't Whitney B. Okay, wait. You like how I casually threw in your Instagram handle there? would be 624. By the way, where does the 624 come from? Is that your area code?

It's my birthday. Oh. Wait, I knew that. It's like five days after mine. I know. Well, I love that it's like, you know what? Where she keeps it real when she posts once every 365 days. Why don't you post more?

I think that I just got really jaded after like coming off of the show and posting and having people and just like, rip you apart and I just couldn't handle it. It's for you. So I just stopped. Yeah. I mean, that's what happens when you have an actual real career to go back to. I mean, too. But, no.

But I mean, sometimes I think like, man, you know, if I could just have had, you know, a stronger backbone. What do they say with that? Yeah. More of a backbone? Yeah. Like a thicker skin. Thicker skin. Yeah.

I could be making some good money right now. Yeah. Like on top of. Like, you have your. sanity and you have a good career. Oh, absolutely. I know, I think what I did was, you know, it was best for you. It was best for me. Yeah. I always say I have mad respect for it. I'm like, you could have really taken that, you know. Yeah. And I mean, I think I never questioned whether I was going to go back to work, right? But I feel like it just would be nice to have, you know,

some extra cash in the bank by just posting something about a mattress or I did post about a mattress. Wait, wait, wait. I did make money all that. It's a great mattress, though. It is. Yeah, I know. I hear what you're saying. Look at, he's just so precious. Like, you got a good baby.

You made a good baby. Thank goodness. You deserve a good baby. You just, you never really know, right? I know, it's a crapshoot. Yeah, it is. Thank gosh. That's like rescuing a dog.

You just don't know what you're going to get. You just don't know. I swear the first three weeks, Rahman was just a sleeping little angel. And I'm happy now because he's definitely not a sleeping angel. he's a crazy pup with puppy energy but it makes me happy because I'm like

it's because he's happy it's because after I talk to the dog medium which is a real thing she said I'm going to tell him that this is forever home and you watch his demeanor will change he will be more comfortable and more than himself

wait so she actually talked to yes how like did she actually no she just looked at him and she was communicating with him oh no it's over the phone

well it was over the phone okay so how was she then talking to ramen through brain powers because she didn't even talk out loud but I will say when she was communicating he wants to

say hi hi I know now he's really um oh my gosh that's the cutest face I've ever seen I know this is where podcasting would be great if it was you could see us because this is cute well we're not cute

let's let's clarify by that we are definitely not cute right now he is so cute But the lady just like was silent and then when she was silent and she said she was talking him, his ears were perking up. It was weird. Yeah, I know. But do it for Lily and see how you feel.

I'm going to buy you a session with this lady to talk to Lily and see. I know. That would be very interesting. Anyways. I don't know, though. I feel like I'm, I actually did go talk to a medium once about just my mom. And my girlfriend had actually gone to the same one and had a really great experience. So I went.

And I think that maybe I just was too skeptical because, I mean, everything she said, I felt like could pertain to anyone, right? Oh, really? And then she prefaced it at the beginning, you're not open to this. And if you question things, it's not going to work. So then it made me think, like, every time I was questioning things, well, it's not going to work because I'm questioning it right now. You know, it just seemed kind of manipulative. Also, I find, like, she could have Googled things about you and your mom, right? I guess.

I was wondering that with people like that are in this world. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I totally believe in that stuff. Let's rewind back to The Bachelor. Oh, God. Where it all started. Oh, God.

I was telling you the other night, I don't remember you, night one. But I also said you were very, you were a quiet one. I did. I just wanted to stay far away from any sort of, you know, drama or. Yeah. And I was like the drunk in your face kind of bitch. You weren't. at all. You were definitely, you know, loud. Yeah, you couldn't just not notice you. That's what I was

going for. Yeah, exactly. That's definitely what I was going for. But I will say you, out of all seasons, out of all people, I can really think of you were truly there for love. I really was. Yeah. I don't know. Now I kind of feel like that was dumb. No, it wasn't. It led you to where you are today. It did, I guess. I mean, it wasn't dumb. I think it's actually kind of like a hopeless romantic thing. I know. You really went on there to find love with him

specifically and found it for a hot minute. If you 10 seconds. Maybe 50, 55. Just under a minute. I wouldn't give it a minute. It's a cold minute, not a hot one.

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So we went to like the audition. Yeah. And this is actually really funny. So you have to fill out that long. Yeah. I mean, it's like 50 pages of a questionnaire. Yeah. So I'm sitting there and I have my legs crossed and I'm filling it out.

I'm wearing heels. And I go to stand up and my foot was a small. And so I fell over. Yes. And they saw? Oh, yeah. It was in the middle of this ball. room. I'm going to hang in. I stand, turn in my questionnaire, like, you know, smiling. And I just

collapsed. And my girlfriend's like, stay down there. That'll be good for ratings. Just stay at the ground. She should be a producer. That's good. You know, it's, it's O'Donnell. We love O'Donnell. She's so fun. So she's like, stay down there. She's like, of course, snapping pictures to all of our friends. Yeah, they definitely saw. So that's how I went on. And it just kind of like one led to another. And I think it's always so interesting when people say, you know, well, you signed up for this. Like when I'm talking about Instagram and how people were commenting about every little thing and just like, well, you signed up for it and said, you know, yes, technically I went. But I honestly did not in a million years think that I was going to get chosen. And then the next thing happens where it's like you get to the next round. And it's like, okay, well, I'll just go to the next round. And then you make it to the next one. And the next one, the next thing I know I'm going to L.A. to be on the show. And it just happened so quickly. And when people say, when people say things like, you signed up for this, I always, I always thought of, well, you know, if you sign your kid up for band camp and they enjoy band camp because they like, you know, does that mean they deserve to get bullied? Right. No, it doesn't.

I mean, but there is no justification for being bullied. No. But, you know, you do. You open up your life to this. And so you have to, you do. You have to kind of be open to people's opinions. But it just, yeah, one thing happened. after the other and next thing I know I'm engaged on a farm and tell me about the farm like well

you went well yeah but I didn't see his specific farm I just saw his town were you like because you know how everybody said on his season they're like if any of these girls could live on a farm I'm like well I totally could have but not with him wasn't my wasn't my guy not yours either but like when you were there were you like yeah I could do this or were you like this is going to be rough. I do think that there is something to say about when you are filming the show and you are taken away from your normal and your reality. And there is something kind of like the drinking the Kool-Aid. Right? So in my mind, would it have been my first choice? No. But I truly did feel like in that moment that I could have done it if he and I were a good fit. It was for the right

person. Exactly. But then like after I came back to reality, and back to my life and back to, you know, my normal, now in hindsight, looking at it, I'm thinking, what in the world was I thinking? Oh, yeah. But you are. You're fed this stuff by producers and you're just like, it's, you're living and breathing this show every waking moment. And falling for this person. Right. You really do think you could live anywhere with. Right. So I do, you know, people a lot of times are like, there's no way you could have done that. And I did think that I was going to. So I think that was genuine. I do feel like I was being honest when I said that. When did you guys realize it wasn't going to work? Very quick.

Really quick, yeah. Yeah. Because how long was it that the world knew, like that you were together? Okay, so let's see. So we started filming in, what, September. And then it wrapped up in, like, right before Thanksgiving. I think I get home, like, the day before Thanksgiving. So November.

And it doesn't air until January. Didn't air until January. So I would say, by January. That's when you knew. It was very apparent. Yeah. And I think. that, you know, then there was the whole dancing with the stars thing. So honestly, I mean, looking back on it, I mean, I haven't talked to Chris in a very, very, very long time. But this is just my opinion on it. I think that he was done with it way before dancing with the stars. But then there's just this, well, I'm going on the show. And maybe I should keep giving it a try. And maybe after the show, I'll get back to like, yeah, it was a lot of pressure.

and do you think dancing with the stars like you know like if you jump into another show after it could like make or break a relationship do you think that had a big part of I mean because there's there's something about having to go back to your normal life and I really wanted to go back to normal yeah that was always your thing you wanted to go you you know no interest and being famous and putting my life out in the for the world to see I have honestly had no interest in that I really just wanted to go back and be normal be normal. So when he got this opportunity, I mean, I would have taken the opportunity too. By no

means, am I faulting him? Because you don't know what, again, what you're getting yourself into with it. No. And I mean, it's great money. Great money. And yeah. I mean, for me, it was an awful experience. Yeah. Well, I always say, and you know, I've heard this through not just people from the Bachelor franchise, but anyone who goes on that show that's with a partner, it's hard because you are spending all of your time with one person that, like, it's too good looking. And people, you know, getting very close. But can we also just say the production with that, too? They like that storyline, don't they?

Well, they partnered him with a Whitney. Right. So here we are and it's like, oh, what Whitney are you talking about? And I was like, okay, I've spent the past however many weeks that we were on the show competing with other women and then having to hide a relationship. And now that we're public, I feel like I'm still competing with someone that shares the same name is me. And he was spending more time with her than with me. I mean, I would have a hard time with that. It was awful. And you're trying to build this new relationship where you're

supposed to be engaged when you're like, do I even know you and what's happening? And now you're just not even here and you've got your own thing and I'm here to support you. And I really did try to support. Oh, I know you did. I'd do every day. But then I said, screw it. Well, because he didn't make you happy. No. No. You guys, you guys. You guys. You guys just at the end of the day are not a good fit and that you know no not a good fit you deserve to be happy he wasn't making you happy no and and look at where it led you know it honestly like i think about that too because enter ricky enter rickie is right and i mean he just was the first i mean coming out of that so i think we announced the breakup with like a may or june

or something i mean i knew it was over way before that but that's when it was like okay we're saying that it is. And I met Ricky in September. So it was a pretty quick... I get it. You know, right. But I mean, I had to like just get myself out there, rip off the bandaid and just throw myself back in.

And I always say that dating is such a necessary evil. Yeah. So true. That's so true. It really, really is. And I mean, you know... And you didn't get to date the 25 men before, you know? Yeah.

Because I was like, well, I didn't really date in between Sean and Jason, but I'm like, But I dated 25 men before that. So I got it really out of my system. Yeah. But I mean, as soon as I went on this date, so I met Ricky on a dating app, which I'm not going to say. No, because you deserve to get paid. I do. Yeah.

So on a dating app. And so we met. Look at you thinking like a true. I am. Now look at me. Who am I? And it was just, I mean, honestly, it was just, I knew right away. Oh, buddies.

What is the matter, sweet. Oh. his little cry is the curious. It's the cutest. He's just so sweet. And I love that. Okay, let's talk about this. Okay. So, wait, well, okay, you guys met on the dating app. Yeah. You, um, it was his first and only. Yeah. And you guys were, I mean, you were, you weren't looking for like, oh, let's get engaged and married. You were, were you just looking to date or? I mean, I, okay, again, like, I am such a hopeless romantic. Like, I just so bad at that time of my life, one in different. find a partner and get married and be a mom.

And people make fun of me all the time for that. They'll be like, oh, you're so desperate. You just want, you just want this and this and you just want to have kids and get married because you're getting old. And I'm like, what's wrong with wanting that? Yeah, I think that's a very normal thing, right? It's a beautiful thing to want that. And if you don't want that, that's fine too.

But I mean, for me, that's really what I was looking for. And I knew that if, you know, the longer I just stayed in my apartment because there was this part of me where I was so recognizable. at that time. And I did not want to be recognizable. But I couldn't go anywhere at that point. Right. And so I just would stay inside.

And it was actually very isolating and depressing. And so I just had to rip off the Band-Aid and be like, the only way I'm going to get ultimately what I want in my life is to just go out there, face this head on. I love that. What do they say the only way to get around it is through it? Oh. Or out of it is through it.

Like, you have to just go through it to get to the other side. There's a song about that. song about that. I mean, it's true, right? And I feel like you said to me too, and I, this has always stuck with me. I think that there's a lot, yeah, there's people go on this show and you're just average Joe's, right? Average gals. And you get this 15 minutes. And some people love it and they want more. Oh, like a taste of a drug. And then there's some people that have it and are like, I don't even want 10 more seconds of this. And that was me. And, and, it was, I just wanted to go

back to normal and I just wanted to be able I mean honestly there was times where I was like I wish I could just there put like on this mask and like go out because I don't want to talk to anyone about this. Remember I would do that ever in Nashville I'd like go out and wait a blonde wig

all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's hard it is. It's very overnight. The quote unquote fame that comes with reality television is so overnight. You go from like you said a regular person with No one knows who you are except for your friends to, I mean, the world knowing who watches a show anyways, which is millions, who you are and all thinking they know everything about you

and you're just not prepared for that. I feel like, and I've said this before on podcast where you, if you're an actor, you grow up learning to do these things and wanting to be in that spotlight and slowly but surely getting there. Where do you go on reality TV and all of a sudden Yeah, you go on and you come off and all of a sudden everyone knows who you are. Right. It's the weirdest thing. It is. But I mean, you still deal with that on every day.

I mean, even just this weekend, you know, in the suburbs of Chicago and you are getting stopped and people are. I mean, you're still so very much in the spotlight. But that's because I still try and ride that 15 minutes. Right. But that's great. And you like that. Well, here's the thing. I don't, I don't, you're good at this.

I'm good at it. I will say that. Yeah. I enjoy. I enjoy podcasting. I enjoy having this. I think I'm really lucky, though, because I think I have such a crazy, amazing community of girls that follow and listen. What did that girl say?

I'm a, um, she goes, I'm a, I'm a vino. I'm a vino. Yeah. I was like, yes, girl, yes. Anytime I see people wearing scrunchies, I'm like, are we friends? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Are we friends?

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Yeah. And so are we. Just kidding. So we had to sit at the famous table. Yes. But that was, I mean, how much food did we eat last night? We had so much food. It was amazing though.

They did like that chef taste. and just got a little bit of everything. It was, it was intense. Then we went to some piano bar and I was a little saucy at that point. Sossy and spicy. I was in a mood. It was in a mood. It was fun to watch though.

And I always just, a couple times I'm like, thank God, this isn't me. Because that's typically me. You know, what's my name? That comes out. Stacey was an eye. With an eye. Yeah. I'm Katrina.

I was Katrina last night a little bit. Yeah. I was a little hint of Katrina. Because one thing at dinner threw me off. That should be my confession about what it was. Really? Well, I think there's two things. Okay.

Well, one thing I'm going to say it. Okay. But I'm only going to say the one. Right. But I don't know which one it is. Okay. That's the fourth thing I'm the same one. Okay.

So somebody at the table said something about, what is that called? Circumcision. And I would, they said like, oh, how could you not? And I was like, well, that's not fair. Some people, like, believe in different things. You can't say that. And I said, like, who cares if they do or they don't? It's the family's decision.

And I felt like it was... You were standing up for penises everywhere. I was standing up for all the uncircumcised penises out there and, and, like, saying, like, who cares? And I guess that might be an American thing that most... I would say, yeah. And I mean, I think, like, from a medical standpoint, and this isn't how it is anymore. But, like, a long time ago, it used to be like, oh, well, it's, um, you know, there's, it's cleaner.

It's cleaner or there's, if you don't do it, there's an increased risk of penile cancer when you're not circumcised. Is that true? I mean, there's not a direct, like, I mean, it's not enough that you shouldn't just circumcise your baby because you're worried about penile cancer. Like, it's such a small, small, small, small risk. But that was so back in the day where now it's like, right? So now they say it's really just your choice.

So I got fired up because somebody said that and I was like, that's so unfair. fair. I have friends who don't circumcise the reason. When she got fired up, I mean, we're like, she was really upset about, I get passionate about penises. You were passionate about the penis mom. Yeah. Yeah. Because I just don't, I'm like, I think I already get overly sensitive thinking about becoming a mom on social media and all the opinions and hate that are going to come in because I'm already getting dog mom shamed. Yeah. And so I'm, I think I get like a little bit spicier Katrina-y. Yeah. When, I mean, you had to stand up. leave the table.

And I mean, I mean, the 118% proof. I was like giggling underneath my bread. Scotch did not help my cause. Oh my gosh. Was it scotch? It was, no, it was like a bourbon, but it was 118 proof. Yes, it tastes a jet a fuel. It was like burning my.

It tasted like you take off nail polish with him. And it was like evaporating in my mouth before I could even swallow it. And it felt like someone lit a fire in my throat. And I'm like, oh, I was trying to be so cool too, because I told the guy who like his family his wife's family like runs this

their godfather is fricking oh Harry Carey how cool is that? So I'm trying to be cool and be like yeah

because I do like Scotch and he's like try this and I'm like mm I was really trying to be cool oh man Ricky took his down fast

yeah he did you know what's so funny too is you were like you're on the you're on the brim Ricky like you're on the fence here

Drunk Ricky to, but it ended up being Caitlin. Oh, Dad, duty, coming in hot. I know. I will say, Ricky is such a hands-on dad. He's a very hands-on, sweet, great dad. You really are. I'm not just saying that because we're on the pod. But I do have something to say about that.

Okay. No, I think it is, I mean, it's tough, right? So there's a big. And Ricky is so hands-on and I can't imagine not like having that. But I also think it's very interesting how as women were like, oh, he's such a hands-on dad. That's so amazing. Like, he should be hands-on on dad. Totally.

I mean, dad should be hands-on, right? Like, why are we like so shocked and surprised about this? That's a really good point, too. And yesterday you said this in the bathroom at the little pub that we were at. You're like, why isn't there change tables in the men's bathroom? Men change diapers too. Right. It's called co-parenting.

Exactly. You're a team. Yeah. It's just, it is so interesting to me. You know, you think women are, you know, progressing and everything's happening and things are changing, but then little things like that. And you're like, it's 2019 and there's not baby change tables in the men's bathroom. I know. And a guy when he changes the diaper, it's like, oh, it's so amazing.

He's changing the diaper. You're right. Yeah. And then there's Jason. Who he's even. Okay. Here's the word booby diaper. We're at.

We're at this pub yesterday. And Little Hayes made a dirty. Yeah. And all of a sudden, Jason's just gagging. And it was a genuine gag. Yeah. And he's just like, Hayes is just like hanging out in his bassinet. It was just a little waft.

It's not like we were changing his diaper. No, it was just a little waft. And he starts legit gagging. And he wasn't hung over or anything. He was just like. Yeah. And I'm like, oh my gosh. And then we'd go to the bathroom and tag team, like a true team.

We did. And then this morning, we were changing a dirty. Yeah. And we were like, okay, Jason, you have to watch. You've got to watch. He couldn't. He said, I have never seen anything like that before. It's like, get used to it.

Yeah, that's the first. You just get used to it past, you know, once the first two happened. Yeah. The same thing with when he pick up a ramen's poop. You know, like a dog's coming from South Korea. You're changing their diet. They're all thrown off. They're going to have diarrhea.

And Jason was just, Like every time I'm like, oh my God, it was hilarious. Oh, man. Anyways. So life of the baby. Mm-hmm. You know, like, what is the day in the life of the angel family? Oh, that's what I wanted to say.

Tell me the beautiful story of, of Hayes. This gives me goosebumps every time. Jason tears up. I know. It's just such a beautiful thing. Yes, it really is. So the baby, Hayes's due date was May 14. which is actually Ricky's birthday,

which is also very, I mean, you know, there's 365 days. Right. Yeah. So that's his due day. Yeah.

And I had always said, you know, when we were making these bets about when the baby was going to be born and all this stuff. I was like, you know, if I could choose,

I would love if the baby was born on May the 4th because not only is it Derby Day in coming from Kentucky, which is a big deal. Which I learned. Oh, God. Yeah.

That. That can be a little. confession. Okay, it's a huge deal for us. It was also the anniversary of my mom's passing. So, and Derby Day only falls on that. It's only done it one other time, I feel like, since she's passed, which has been like, oh, really?

Yeah. And so I knew that the likelihood of that happening was so slim. With it being my first baby, a lot of times you kind of go more towards a little later. Yeah. So I just said, I was like, I'm putting my money on this. I don't really think it's going to happen, but that would be great. So, oh, my gosh, I just thought I have another funny story. Don't forget these.

I know. So, well, this I'm just going to tell. It's not a confession. But I, the Friday, so May the 3rd, I get up and the mucus plug. Yeah. So I know it sounds really disgusting, but that's just part of, you know, it's kind of a sign that labor could be coming. Right. So I call Ricky to tell him about this mucus plug. And he, like, pretends he knows exactly what I'm talking about.

No clue. He then texts me. He said, oh, God, I just looked online. I thought, well, what did you think? He said, I didn't realize it did that. And I said, what did you think? It came out of my nose. He goes, well, yeah, this mucus.

I was like, oh, God. He thought something just fell out of my nose, and that was going to mean that labor was coming. That's amazing. Okay, so the next day I wake up, and I'm kind of like having a little bit of cramble. Long story short, my water broke at like 4, 430 on May the 4th. So Derby Day in the anniversary of my mom was passing, we go to the hospital. We get there at like six, and I kept asking, you know, the nurses, I said, what's the likelihood that this is going to happen today? And I said, you know, you got to, it's not going to happen today.

It's going to be tomorrow. And I'm just like, okay, well, that stinks, but it still stink tomorrow. Right. Oh, there you go. So, anyways, the baby ended up coming at 1049. Hayes was born on the anniversary of my mom's passing. And it's just 10 days early, first baby, fell on Derby Day. It just...

And you had always said that it was, you would always been looking for a sign. Yes, I always, I always am looking for signs from my mom. And, you know, I feel like I'm a faithful person, but it really does test that when you lose someone so suddenly. Yeah. And I always am just looking for signs from her. I mean, this one just slapped me straight in the face, right? Can't ignore that one. No.

Yeah. I couldn't believe. I sobbed. Oh, yeah, because I texted you. I was like, this is incredible. And like my water broke, like I'm going to hospital. My gosh, blah, blah, blah. And then, yeah.

That was, what a, what a freaking story. Really, it is. What a beautiful thing. I mean, and you think about it. And that must make you feel like connected to your mom. Absolutely. Yeah. And it just, the labor happened so fast.

I mean, my water broke. and I got my epidural and I pushed for like 20 minutes like it's crazy and born at 1049. Like there wasn't that much time left to spare. He was like, I'm getting here on this day. Yeah, exactly. I'm not beating around the bush. I'm out. No, I'm coming out.

Coming out soon like right before midnight. Yeah. That's so wild. Yeah. Oh, I love that story so much. Every time like and you did this. Are you going to post that video? Yes.

Okay. So there is, so we had our. newborn photos taken by Our Days photography here in Chicago and they also did a video for us and it is the first of all the photos were so beautiful

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to be a mom, right? So I feel like I read all the books. I did everything that I was, like, technically supposed to do, and nothing can really prepare you for it. I think the hardest thing, and I mention this to you, is that people, you get, you sign up for these emails where it tells you, okay, this week your baby's the size of this and this is what's happening in your pregnancy and this is what to expect when you go to the doctor and what tests they're going to do and what they're looking for. But then it just ends at like 40 weeks when it says, and now you have a baby, ta-da, the end. Right. But no one tells you what's going to happen when you get home and the recovery.

Like whether you have a, that could be a business idea for you. I mean, really, I feel like I was so unprepared and I worked in kind of field and I felt so unprepared for what was going to happen to my body once I got home. I mean, I'm not an idiot. Like this baby came out of my vagina. I know it's not supposed to tickle. But it like, it was really, really painful. And I ended up busting my stitches and just from coughing. Yep.

And you said it's like a five-step process to just go to the bathroom. Go to the bathroom. Like, I mean, I'm sure all of these moms out here are like, yeah, you're preaching to the choir, sister. But, you know, you have like an open wound. You know, if you got stitched, which I would think of the most people do. You know, so you can't just like wipe with toilet paper like you typically would. So you have to use the bathroom. Then you get this, like this is called like a peri bottle, which is like a squirt bottle.

And you would put warm water in it. And then you have to squirt. And then you spray it with the numbing stuff. And then you have to get these. underwear that are a godsend though they're like so I remember Julian Harris talking about these the witch hazel and then the pads you put in it and then the witch hazel on that that you can put in the freezer

to just cool the area but I mean honestly it's all of these steps so just to go to the bathroom it takes like unless you have a new baby so it's not like you just have the time to I know so and that's like for two weeks when you think about it two weeks doesn't sound that long

but think about every time you use the restroom Yeah, no, that's a lot. That's a lot. And that's, yeah, I mean, that's a good point that nobody really talks about the after. Like, you know, the Instagram, everybody is doing. I will say Jesse James Decker did something that I really appreciated on Instagram. And she did, you know, she's like, I showed you my whole, my pregnancy up until the baby was born. I showed you my baby bump. And I want to show you my body after. Because she's got a bang and bod. And so then after, you know, after she had her third baby, she was showing the. process of what our stomach look like after. And I really respected that because I think women need to see that and feel okay with it and know that it takes patience. But I also know that that's probably really hard for your body to just completely change. Well, and I even was telling you, like my body just hurts and just like muscles and aches and pains. And, you know, I think that society is doing better about talking about postpartum depression. Yeah. But that can look very different for everyone.

Yeah, exactly. And it doesn't necessarily mean that when you come home, if you feel great, that postpartum depression won't hit. Like, I struggled with really bad anxiety that they felt like was because of the hormone fluctuations and kind of a part of postpartum depression. But it didn't hit me for like a week or so after I was home. I mean, you were just on the high. I was on like, I was on like, we FaceTime.

I was like, I feel great. I know. I was like, wow, you are killing it. Yeah. I mean, if I was not moving, I was just sitting down, I mean, physically my body was hurting, but mentally I felt amazing. And then all of a sudden, it was just like someone took the carpet and just pulled it out from underneath me. And I fell hard, I mean, with the anxiety. Yeah.

And the hard thing about that, too, like you said, it hits everyone differently. So it's not like everyone can understand the way you were feeling. No, and I honestly felt like I was in the clear. Right. And because people say, you know, because we're having more conversations about it and because it's becoming more of a acceptable topic, it doesn't mean it helps. No. You know, like that doesn't take away the anxiety and the depression.

It's nice to know that you're not alone. And it is true because I thought postpartum depression was you're just feeling depressed, right? Yeah. I wasn't feeling depressed. I just was so anxious about everything. I mean, even just everything with the baby, every time the baby did something, I'm like, is this normal? And then you go on Google and then you find, you go through.

this really bad, you know, rabbit hole of whatever thing could be. I will say that that's the last place I want to go when I want to know anything. Just don't do it. Just don't Google. Like that's because anything and everything can come up. It's millions of searches of anything. Well, and nobody goes on, and I mean, I do this with myself too. And we've talked about this.

Like, I struggle with anxieties with my own self. And like, I get online and I'm always like, oh, you know, so worried. But no one goes online to say, oh, I felt this. And it ended up being nothing. Yeah. So true. You know? That's true.

So it's like everybody's worst nightmare on there. Everybody's horror story. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So it's, but I, and I know this, but I still continue to do it. Yeah. And that's, you're admitting it. And you're working on it.

Yeah. And I'm very open about it. I think mental health is something that we all need to be talking more and more about. And I just, I mean, so I'm starting a new. program this week. Yes. Did my initial appointment a couple weeks ago, just to work on the anxieties.

I love that you're doing that because, I mean, you're taking action and doing the right things you need to do to help yourself that it will make you a better mother. Well, you have to when you're a mom because it's not just me anymore. And I can't, you know, I can't put the anxiety on Hayes. Right. You know, so I've got to get a grip on it. Well, one, I love that you're open about talking about those things because I think

this podcast I want to talk about those kinds of things and I think it's so important for again for people to know they're not alone and for people

also just understand that it like what you said like it can just hit you out of nowhere it can be really a dark place and just to know

that that happens like that's normal that can be normal it can be normal it doesn't happen everybody but it can happen and actually it happens to a lot of people

I think it happened yeah it happens most people when I like would tell them about that I was struggling. And it is. I feel like some people feel like a shame.

Like you're so, it is such a blessing. And I know that so much, especially in my field of work, that people would do anything to have a baby. Right. And so the last thing I ever wanted to sound like was that I was complaining. Because I was so happy and I love my baby so so much.

But the anxiety was just so intense that it is, you know, it is a hard kind of thing to balance. So what kind of tips and tricks do you have for people who talk about it? Yeah. And I will say, I mean, my husband is fantastic, but even he had a hard time sort of understanding the anxiety. Right. Because he's not going through that.

He's not going through that. So as much as I would like try to communicate with him about it, I would say that my biggest help was talking to other women. Yeah. That have gone through it or know someone that's gone through it. That's what I, you know, this is a complete different. situation, but same thing with like certain hard things that any bachelorette will go through. I'm like, please, yes. Please lean on me. Tell me any time of the day. Talk to me through it because sometimes that's all you need is to have

somebody that can relate. And there's not many people who can in certain worlds. So that is a good, yeah, I'd say that's good advice to talk to other people who have gone through certain things or even if it's just your girlfriends. Talking about it can really help. And don't feel shame around it. No. I don't feel anything. shame around talking about mental health. I think it's like... I mean, but for me, it's something I've battled with the majority of my life. So I, I mean, you know, for our wedding, that was part of what, instead of giving, you know, favors, we had donated a portion money to a mental health charity.

I absolutely love that. Because it does. It affects not only me, but it affects all my relationships. And, you know, Ricky's being an advocate, you know, for me and support. reporting me. And then it just, I just think it's huge. And I mean, I've been medicated since I was young. Yeah. Yeah. Because. Which is, see, and I didn't even, I didn't even know what anxiety was even a few years ago. I didn't. I remember having major anxiety and not knowing what it was on a drive that I pulled over and thought I was dying. Yeah. Because I didn't

even know, even I think when I started this podcast, I was just starting to figure out what my anxiety was. And it's just crazy that, like, it's, you know, you've, that probably helps you in a way to know that you, that you've had that since a young age. Do you think that helps? I mean, or just being aware or? I mean, it is one of those things where when I'm in the peak of like the anxiousness or like panicking that that doesn't help me to think, oh, well, I know what this is because nothing can really help. Nothing helps. But when I look back on it, I mean, yes, I can definitely identify what my anxiety is or what's triggering my anxiety. And do you think that helps?

Yeah, because I, it does. Knowing where it comes from? Because I know where it comes from. Yeah, I agree with that. That's something, you know, people always ask for tips on anxiety. And I think, I think I was talking to one of my girlfriends, she was having major anxiety about the dentist. But it turns out it wasn't even about the dentist.

Yeah, exactly. It was about, you know, she smokes and she is, you know, that they're going to tell her that she's, her teeth don't look right and she can't afford certain things. And it was way more than just going to the dentist. And then that helped just knowing, okay, you're right, that's where that is stemming from. And now I'm aware of it and I can deal with that. And some people, some people want to push it away and not acknowledge the problem. But I do think it helps to do research on why, like dig a little deeper into why, where it's coming from. Absolutely. All right. We all know relationships can be complicated. And for a lot of us, our relationship with

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Oh, my gosh. It, I mean, Ricky and I, I'm just, again, I'm just so lucky because I feel like... You guys have a great relationship. We do. You do. We have a strong foundation. You do. Yeah.

So... And that's so important. It really is. But it's everything. It is. There's times where I look at him sometimes and I'm like, we have a baby. Yeah. You know, like, we're a mom and a dad.

Yeah. That's a big, f***ing responsibility. It is. But it also, like, makes me, like, smile because I can't think of wanting to do it with anyone else, right? I mean, even when I call him my husband, I still get butterflies. You know? Aw. And then there's me, I'm like, I hate the word boyfriend. I hate calling him my boyfriend. Why? I don't know, boyfriend. I guess from being engaged before. Yeah, but even we both know that when you get engaged on that show, it's not like. Well, that's, it was the shittiest foundation ever. Right. You know, that is. That is, there is a reason those relationships have a hard time working out. It's a terrible, I'm starting to get drunk now. You can tell it. It's a terrible foundation.

Yeah, it's pretty awful. It's built on, there's no trust because you're like, well, you just did all this with everybody else. You watch back an edited version. It's, or you don't have to. Or you don't have to like yourself. But I will say, this is kind of very off topic. But last year when I came to visit you and we went over to Carly.

I wanted to meet Bella. We decided we were going to gear up the old television because I hadn't watched our season. And it was so funny. First of all. It's hysterical. That was a good season. Just looking back at, we just all looked so different. So different.

And some of the stuff I said was just really embarrassing. I can't even recall, but I just said dumb things. You? Yeah. Well, everything that came out of my mind. Mel that was stupid. But yours was, it was funny. That was my whole goal. I was just trying to be funny. Right. And I wasn't. That's why it was like. You're like, why is this bitch making it so far? She's not taking it seriously. I'm like, peepoo, peew, pew. Anyways, I feel like I kind of cut you off with the marriage talk. So you guys just, um, I feel like it has definitely made our relationship stronger. I mean, I mean, it definitely has tested it in ways. Of course.

But, I mean, Ricky, again, like, he's just very, I hate to, again, like, bring it up like this. But he is so hands-on. Well, that's that he takes the, you know, on the weekends because I'm with the, you know, I'm on maternity leave currently. And so I'm with the baby, get up early with the baby. You know. And so on the weekends, he gets up early and lets me. And it's good. And you can tell he enjoys it, like, bonding time.

That's his time with him. Yeah. He loves it. And he is a morning. person, so he always is just like... That helps because you're not and I'm not. Uh-uh. No.

No. So I'll take the middle of the night, like... Duties. And then... That means two things. Yeah. Duties. So mature.

God. So mature. We were on Reddit reading some people's confessions. And I'm like, I feel like I should call the police. Or take a shower. Or take a shower. Yeah. One of the two.

Yes. One girl said that she was so, sex hungry, that every man walk past her look like a walking dick. Which is a great confession, but... It is, but I'm thinking, what's going through this girl's head that she's like, you know what? I'm going to get on Reddit and just tell everybody this. It's a safe place on Reddit? No. I mean...

I don't know. Okay. Let me look at my tweet. Speaking of confessions. What was mine? I had one. I already forget. No, we already told it, though. It was a circumcision thing. Oh, right, right, right. We got so upset. I did get heated over the circumcision. Oh, well, see, I asked people on Twitter for confessions. And this girl said, I have two for you. One's a poop confession and one is the first time I saw you and Blake in person confession. Both embarrassing. Go on. Yeah, continue. She didn't tell me the rest. Okay, do you have a confession for me? Okay, if you don't. I mean, I'm perfect. I mean, I'm pretty pretty perfect.

I was trying to ask you earlier. I'm like, well, did something happen during the birth? You're like, no, pretty normal. I'm like, damn it. I know. Damn it. Give me something gross. I didn't even poop.

I was so nervous I was going to. But let's see. Didn't. Let's see. Oh my gosh. Some of these people are so sweet. Josephine, first I have, I have to piece. So I'll tell my coworker, I'm going to the restroom.

Then I come back and think, oh, shit, now I have to poop. I don't want her to know this. So every time I say, ah, crap, there's something in my eye, BRB, and then I do the deed. This is so funny because I'm like, why don't you just say here going to poop? Yeah, doing the deed. Just doing the deed. Oh, Kim Tett, I blacked out at bottomless mimosa. I wore the white, Frank, body scrunchy on my wrist, and I took it off not to spill on it.

Love your commitment, Kim. I think I left it on the table, and I drunk cried to my boyfriend. different about it. All he could say was our waitress got an extra awesome tip because now she has your scrunchy. I love that. That was sweet. I like that. Hey, actually, Kim, if you could somehow email or slide into my DMs or do something, I'm going to try and get you

my frank and body white scrunchy because I have two. And I would like to give you my second. So nice. Well, who needs two, Frank and Body? Well, I have like 80. I have like eight scrunchy drawers now. I will. I would like to send you one because that's that's really cute. The fact that you drunk cried, I love you. I love you, Kim Tet. I love you Kim Tet. Oh, my. I'm reading some of these things too. Okay. Oh, someone did ask me how Lily is handling the new baby. Okay. And? She's depressed. Oh, she is? Lily's depressed. Look at

her. Where are she? Oh. First of all, she crawls in the car seat and just hangs out there. Yeah, she does. She does. Um, yeah, she's, it's sad. That breaks my heart because I feel like that happens to a lot of dogs because, you know, they're the main attention and then they kind of have to be put on the back burner. She's old, too, you know? I mean, she's 13 years old. Lills. Oh, she'll live till she's 20. Are you kidding?

Look at her. She's two pounds. She's not even two pounds. She's going to live a long great life. Yeah. No, don't. Did people have a confession to you? Oh, a confession about our friendship.

Oh, that's the derby. Oh, yes. Okay. Yes. I actually kind of want to hear you tell the story. Okay. Well, it's not that crazy. No. I mean, it's just, so I last year, I didn't, first of all, I'm Canadian. I, my mom is a huge fan of the derby because my grandma wrote horses and my mom always wanted

a horse and she like, like hearing the sounds makes her so nostalgic. She like loves the derby. But I didn't understand it because one, I grew up in Canada and I didn't really know anything about it. I was like, I knew, I knew there was a thing called the derby that horses raised in. I knew it was a big deal, but I didn't know. I didn't know how. how big of a deal it was to people from Kentucky. That's what it is. Yeah. No idea.

And so I got an offer with Angry Orchard, which I was more excited about. I was like, I'm going to get paid to drink Angry Orchard cider. Yeah. Yes, please. That is so on brand. Yeah. And so they said, yeah, we'll take you in a plus one to the derby to be in the Angry Orchard tent and watch the race. You have to do X, Y, and Z for the post, blah, blah, blah.

And so this was very last minute, too. Like, it was, I don't know, like a week before. And so I was like, okay, cool, go to the derby. And I didn't really tell anybody. My mom gets annoyed at me all the time because she's like, why wouldn't you tell me you're doing that cool thing? I didn't even know that Jason. I see Jason moved to Nashville. I'm like, my sister.

My sister didn't even know Jason was moving to Nashville. Like sometimes my friends and family are like, could you not communicate to us? I'm like, I just don't even think things anymore. Like there's so much going on. I'm like, oh, yeah, right. He's moving in. And so I went to the derby. So you go.

Now let me tell what I'm doing at this time. Okay. I am living in Chicago. Yeah. And I'm at a derby party. Okay. And someone comes up to me and says, oh my God. Caitlin's at the derby.

And she was like, did she tell you that she was going to the derby? And I'm like, what the? You're like, no, that little bit. So I look online. She is in my hometown at the derby, which if I would have known, I would, like that you were going. Now again, I get it that it was last minute. I would have gone. I would like to have been your plus one. I wish you would have been. I know. So, I will say one thing. I am not a passive aggressive person. No. So I just called you out on it. Yeah, which I love and respect so much. I would way rather that. So I said. And I was so unaware because I would never do anything to hurt your feelings. Oh, no. So I was like, oh my gosh, I didn't even think about it. So I call her and I'm like. Or I think I knew you were at the derby, so I think I texted you. Like, you said, um, excuse me.

Yeah. And then you were like, oh, I don't, I forget. But then I called you or you called me or something. I forget. And I just said, like, it's upsetting to me because you're four and a half hours from Chicago in my hometown where I grew up at this huge event. Which is like a big thing for you. It's like a holiday in Kentucky. And you didn't even tell me.

I was upset. Yeah. Which I understood as soon as you told me, I was like, oh, duh. If you went to La Duke, Alberta for like one of the biggest, like, We have the rodeo there. If you went to La Duke for the rodeo And I just didn't even tell you Like I'm going to La Duke

I would be totally upset It was justified So I was upset You were justified for that And it was funny Because I think that might have been Our only argument Oh yeah

It wasn't even an argument It was just like You were disappointed in me And then I understood Yes Yeah It's not a great confession But it's kind of a funny story

It's kind of funny Well someone I ask about Some who have a confession For our friendship Okay 60 seconds everybody That is exactly how long This commercial lasts

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about what I do, but I feel like I love to work. Yeah. Yeah, you do. Yeah. I need to get out and have a routine and all of that. So I answering the part about, well, I have a What was it?

Will you have more of an emotional attachment to your clients now that you're a mom yourself? So it's a little bit different. You know, I worked in the fertility clinic, you know, with patients that were struggling, conceiving for nine years. But now at OVA, where we just do fertility preservation, people aren't actively trying to conceive. Right. So I think it would be a lot different if I was still in the fertility clinic where patients were really struggling.

But I will say that something that, um, was, it kind of gave me a different viewpoint is when I was pregnant. So being obviously pregnant and at work, and there are a lot of women that came in that that's what they want, right? Like, they want to meet someone and the reason you're freezing your eggs is to be sure that you are, you know, giving yourself the option in the future. If you just, you know, haven't met that person or you don't want to have children right now. But the whole point is that you think you eventually want children, right?

Or some people think maybe I will change my mind. down the road if I find the right person. Exactly. So to be, you know. Thank God I did. Exactly. So that's before too. But to be pregnant and then to sit in with patients and talk to them and, you know,

some of them were like, you know, I'm so worried I'm not going to meet someone and I'm not going to get the opportunity to have children and I'm sitting there pregnant. It just was a different kind of, you know, I did become a little bit more sensitive to that aspect of it. That makes sense. That makes sense. I've always been, though. know, very sensitive to the fact of fertility and was very, um, felt very lucky when we were able to get pregnant, even though it did take me a lot longer than what I anticipated. Right.

Um, and someone did ask if I used my eggs and I didn't, but I, I contemplated it. After several months of not working, you know, I actually did reach out to Dr. Kaplan, who's the physician we work for and Ricky and I did a consult with them about should I tap into those eggs. Yeah. And his recommendation to me at that time was, um, you know, to, you know, give it a few more months. Yeah.

Because I knew that I would want to have more children. Right. And so down the road, you may be more valuable. Right. That makes sense because a lot of people ask. So if you freeze your eggs, that means that you use those to get pregnant. And I was like, no, no, no. No.

It's basically for if you can't. Can't. Correct. Yeah. I'm still going to try naturally, obviously. Absolutely. Okay. Yep.

So this person is clearly a bachelor person because their name is Mondays don't have to suck with the rose. Oh my God. I love it. But they wanted to know, did she feel like she had to get engaged at the end of the season? Or did you genuinely feel ready at that time? Well, you genuinely felt ready. But did you feel the pressure to say yes?

No. But I have a question for you. Do you feel like as the lead that you felt a pressure? I mean, I know that you actually weren't the one getting down on one knee. But could you see where you would feel like a pressure from the producer that there needs to be engaged? He did. You think so? Yeah.

Yeah. And maybe this was out of anger or something, but he used to tell me that he wishes he didn't because. Well, it's easy to say when things are not like. Yeah, that's true. You know, rainbows and butter. Right. Which. Yeah. So, but I mean, I wonder that to you.

I didn't feel pressure. I genuinely wanted that at the end of my season. Well, and I know with Chris's season, I mean, you know what I'm probably going to say. I mean, I could. How many people were like. You wanted to choose Becca and, oh, Jesus. That must be hard here. I mean, yeah, that doesn't make me feel good, right?

And then people are saying, you know, I was just like, you knew that I was a for sure yes. And Becca was just so iffy. And, you know, if I would have watched the season, then I would have, you know, I never would have stayed in the relationship as long as I did. And I think, you know, looking back on it, I think probably someone that's probably valid. Mm-hmm. Um, and I think, though, for me, though, it was, that was a really hard pill to swallow. Of course. I mean, and then, but people are like, angry at me that I'm like, why are you guys angry at me about this? Like, I'm the one that should be, like, feeling like absolute dog shit right now. And I, and you're succeeding. Yeah, and you're kicking me while I'm down here. Yeah. Like,

okay, yeah, he probably did want to choose Becca. And here I am, feeling like a complete loser. That's not true. I think it, I think editing has a big part of certain things, too, you know? They needed a storyline, but I understand how you feel. Right, absolutely. So I even had a hard time watching it back being like, oh, I thought I had the strongest relationship, but like, clearly I did not. Bally, oh, man. Oh, Bali.

But sometimes I wonder, too, like, oh, I wonder if he felt pressured from the producers, you know, that. I don't know. I don't have an answer for you. I really like this one. You're going to like this one. Aurora, the Weekly Sparkle, says, yay, my faves, together again. I'd like Whitney

I'd like Whitney to know that I literally use her so what advice from your first podcast together that it helped shift my perspective on so many things and help me to be less critical on myself. I'd love to hear any similar advice you might have. I think that's the best advice you've ever received and given is to say out loud.

So what? Because I have to use it so much with my anxiety because I can really get myself kind of going in this downward spiral a lot of times with the, you know, anxiousness that I feel that I have to say, okay, so what? So if this happened, so what? And I, it's interesting because there's times where I don't take that advice and I'm like really anxious. And Ricky will now say, so what? I like it. And I'm like, need to be reminded of it.

Those are like two good trigger words. You know how some triggers are bad? Those are ones that can like trigger your brain to shift and be like, Oh, yeah. So what? It can be good, yeah. Yeah. I like that.

So I'm trying to think if there's been any other, have I gotten any other good advice? I think that's the best. That is the best. Yeah. So we can get to our games. Oh, yeah. Elena Colch wants to know what does she think of Jason?

I love them. But also, I see a lot of similarities in Jason and Ricky. Oh, they're going to say my ex. I was like, what? No. No, your eyes just got like, like, the size of saucers. I was like, what?

Oh, yeah, him and Ricky, definitely. I knew it. I said to Jason, I said, you're going to love Ricky. He is your kind of guy. Yeah. And they've been hanging out kind of. Oh, yeah, they're romance and hot. They are.

They are. Love them. The answer is love them. Yeah. Linda Anderson wants to know, does she know any women over 45 that have used her own eggs, got pregnant, and carried to full term? I'm 47 in the process of doing IVF now. Wish me luck.

Yeah. Yeah. So I would say that at 47, using your own eggs as a 47-year-old. Now, if you've frozen your eggs at a younger age and you're using your own eggs from like, let's say, froze your eggs at 35 and you're now using them at 47, the interesting thing about that is that the uterus doesn't age. So you could. Yeah, that's what blew my mind when you told me that. Yeah. I mean, women could technically carry a baby. Carry a baby in their 60s. Now, is that great for like just their physical. well-being because your body is older and it's hard on your heart, on your heart and things like that. No, but your uterus could do it. The eggs, though, at 47, I would say, I personally am not heard of anyone using their own eggs at 47, but as a 47-year-old. Oh, yeah. I was thinking if she had frozen them previously. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yes. I have heard of that. Okay. I think the biggest

thing is at 45 or older, just to be sure that you are followed by, you know, your primary care to get like your cardiac checked and everything to make sure you're healthy enough. But to use 47-year-old eggs, I would say the chances of that aren't as great as if you obviously would have used a younger act. Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. We're going to play our game. Okay.

It's already been an hour. Really? Yeah. Time flies. Don't you like it? Yeah, I love it. I do. Okay.

So we're going to play a game. It's called Secret Sounds. And it's, I'm going to play you like a three-second clip of sounds. and you have to try and guess what it is. Oh, gosh. I have a feeling I'm going to be really bad at this. Okay. It's hard.

Ready? First sound. Is that a dog-licking, like, stop? It is. Is that right? Dog-looking water. Yeah. Oh, man.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Second sound. Okay, I have two guesses, actually. Is it a sprinkler? No, but it does sound like that.

Or is it outside at night? No. One more again. That's a tough one. Is that like, what is it? Aerosol spray. Oh, I should know that because I love airspray. I love dry shampoo.

Okay. Sound number three. Opening a beer. Yes. Oh, yes. Oh, my gosh. You are good. Okay.

Sound number, what I'm on for? Okay. Is it like the wind blowing? Like, think about that when you have the, like, your arm sticking out of the car when you're going really fast and you're shirts like blowing in the wind. You don't know what I don't know. No?

Yeah. No. Oh, okay. I don't even, it was like bubbles or something. That was stupid. No, that's not. Okay. I don't know what this is going to sound like, but sound number five.

Ice. Yeah, I'm making a cocktail. Love that. Making a cocktail. That's what. You're doing really good. I'm impressed by you. I don't think I could do.

I don't think I would do this good. Okay. Here is sound number. Slamming door. That was good. That was good. Okay, sound number. What am I on?

Whatever. Yeah, it doesn't matter. A gate. Okay. Guys, anytime someone ever says, tell us something about you that we don't know or hit a talent. I'm like, well, if you guys play noises for me, I'm pretty damn good at it, guessing what they are. Oh my gosh. I'm actually so, like, okay, if you get this one.

There's no way. Hold on, do it again. There's no way. There's no way. No. Okay, try this. Oh. Microwe.

Yeah. That was so easy. What was someone before that? An oven door closing. Oh, come on. That's ridiculous. Okay. This is for the win.

Okay. No, you've already won. It's for the win. We were struggling this morning. We ate pancakes and breakfast. And now we've had one glass of wine for the podcast. And I'm, it's the shampoo effect. Shampoo effect.

You know? Well, let's explain it. Okay. See how the guys just knew what it was. I'd never heard of it. No. I'd never. I've heard of the term shampoo effect, but I didn't know what it was.

I just don't know why anyone, anyone in their right mind, would wash their hair more than once in a day. No, that's stupid. That's a good point. That's when Jason was explaining it, you're like, yeah, but who washes their hair twice in one day? That's stupid. So the shampoo effect is when you shampoo your hair, it's, you know, slather it up, you rinse it out.

And then if you do it again in the same day, it's so, you just need a little dollop. And then it's just, you know, shampoo city. And that's the same thing with the shampoo effect. So if you, you know, you have a lot of alcohol in your system from the night before, like 118% proof from Gene and George Eddy's. And then the next day you have one glass of wine for your podcast. It's the shampoo effect. Yep. We drunk.

Yeah. No. No. No. I'm a little buzzed. Well, I love that Jason walking and was like, you're drinking? She's like, I was like, I'm working, babe. I'm working.

He's like, we have a seven-hour drive back to Nashville. I'm like, yeah, you're driving. I'm working. Yeah. 2019, okay? Let me do my job. Okay, this is for the Kentucky girl. Okay.

If you don't get this. It's going to be a horse. Is it a horse? No. Oh, that is hysterical. That's out of the gates at the derby. Yep. You're right.

And that's how you play. Secret sounds. That is amazing. Where did you find this? Apparently it's a radio game that some people do for listeners who call in. I'm going to start calling it. So this might be your new source of income. Screw Instagram and making money on there.

You're going to call into every radio station for secret sounds. And you're going to be like, you know that guy on Jeff. Who kept going and going. What was his name? Well, there was that one from a long time ago, Ken something. And then there was this new guy. Ken Jennings, right? It was the first guy.

This guy. Who is he? James Halls. Yes. How's how do you say it? I don't know. Well, you're James. You're going to be the James of the Sound.

He's called me James. Will you please just refer to me as James from now on? Yep. Thanks. James with the secret sound Thank you for being on my podcast I always want to be on Well you can always come on anytime you want

I was on that went right after the Bachelorette party That was that long ago That was that's when we did it And then we were going to do it in Nashville But we just had too much crazy fun We didn't have time to do it And then you're on my live one with Blake

But you were super pregnant And we were super hammered Yes That was That was some confession he gave us Oh my God That, yes, speaking of Blake, I'm still not, good luck to you, sir. Godspeed.

You know what? Let's end this podcast with a prayer for Blake. Yes. Heavenly Father, please keep an eye on our friend Blake, who is going to go through absolute hell on this season of Paradise, Zoe here. You know, he's a great man with a great heart who just... He's an idiot. Who is also a little bit of an idiot when it comes to the ladies. Because he's so lovely and wanted that, you know, he just can't keep them off or away.

He just can't say no. And he can't say no. So let's help him guide with his heart, not his penis. You know what we should do? We should get him a dare shirt where it says, just say no. You know, the dare, the drug shirt, just say no. He needs one of those to wear just because he needs to learn. Yeah, just a little reminder.

Maybe a tattoo. and the heavenly father's name amen amen to follow at with b six okay thanks for listening to off the vine with katelyn briscoe get new episodes every tuesday exclusively on podcast one dot com the podcast one app and subscribe on apple podcasts who's that with o tv sponsors for this week's off the vine the real world Atlanta streaming now only on Facebook watch the real real real get 20% off select items with promo code real express go to express.com in store and use promo code 9989 for $20 off a pair of jeans honey get honey free at join honey.com slash buying pedal go to pedalcard.com slash vine now and

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