Office Ladies - A Look Back on a Conversation with Billie Eilish

Episode Date: August 6, 2025

This week on Office Ladies 6.0, we revisit our special episode where Jenna and Angela sit down with “Office” superfan and popstar, Billie Eilish! Billie shares her favorite episodes, seasons and w...hat “The Office” means to her. Jenna, Angela and Billie reveal which character(s) they most identify with and why. Billie also shares how “The Office” made her learn a couple things incorrectly including thinking that the band U2 was from Scranton. Then the ladies talk with Billie about what it was like to sample a clip from “Threat Level Midnight” in her song, “My Strange Addiction”. We end with an “Office” quiz! Are you an “Office” superfan? Can you get all the questions right? Enjoy this very fun and special episode with Billie Eilish!   Check out Billie Eilish: https://www.billieeilish.com/#/  Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion  Follow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPod Follow Us on YouTube Follow Us on TikTok To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jenna Fisher. And I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on The Office together. And we're best friends. And now we're doing the Ultimate Office rewatch podcast just for you. Each week, we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind-the-scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you. We're the office ladies. Hello, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hi. We are very excited about today's... episode. So we have arrived in our rewatch to threat level midnight. But we are not breaking that down this week. No. We're actually going to be breaking that down next week with writer BJ Novak. Yes. So if you do not already subscribe to Office Ladies, you might want to hit that subscribe button so you don't miss that one. Yes. And go over to Office Ladies on Instagram because we're going to be posting lots of photos and behind the scenes stuff. But I think we need to talk about what's about to happen today. This week, we thought we might reach out to someone
Starting point is 00:01:02 who loved this episode of The Office and is a huge office fan, so much so she even sampled the episode in one of her songs. Let's hear it. No, Billy, I haven't done that dance since my wife died. There's a whole crowd of people out there who need to learn how to do the scorn. Don't ask questions. You don't want to know. That's right. To be talking to you, Belatona. Should I take in a break, not an oxford come.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Take what I want when I want. And I want you. That's right. Billy Eilish is in the studio today to have a conversation with us about her love of the office. Oh my gosh. I know. I can't believe it. You guys obviously know Billy Eilish from her amazing music career at just 20 years old.
Starting point is 00:02:00 She has won multiple Grammys. She's won an Academy Award. I mean, people's Choice Awards, Kids Choice Awards, Billboard Music Awards, I Heart Music Awards. Name an award, and she has probably won it. She also is a director. She directs her music videos. She has a book. She has a fragrance.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Her new album is called Happier Than Ever. It is out now. You can find out about all this stuff on her website. Billy Eilish.com, including her tour dates. And she's a super fan of the office. Like super fan. Super, super, super fan. And we are super fans of hers. So much so that we brought our kids in today. Yes. And here they are. They're in the studio. You guys want to say hi? Hi. Hi. Hi. Hello. Hi. Oh, those are our kidos. Yay. Are you guys excited to meet Billy? Yes. We are too. Yeah, for about a year now, Harper, you've been asking me what?
Starting point is 00:02:56 Hi. When can we meet Billy? Yeah. Yeah, you said if Billy ever comes on the podcast, can I please come meet her? Well, we should probably scooge on out of here because we just got a text that she's moments away. Okay, let's take a break. And when we come back, Billy Elish is going to be here. Woo! Yay!
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Starting point is 00:04:31 I host a podcast called The Sea Word with my dearest friend and historian of bad behavior, Alyssa Bennett. What is up? It's a chat show about women whose society is called Crazy. We're going to be rediscovering the stories of women's society dismissed
Starting point is 00:04:46 by calling them mad, sad, or just plain bad. Listen to and follow the C-word with Lena Dunham and Alyssa Bennett, available now wherever you get your podcasts. Philly Isish is here today on Office Lady. Philly Isish is here. I'm here. Hi, guys. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:05:10 In studio, right here right now. We're really excited to talk all things office with you. Oh, me too. Where should we start? Oh, my gosh. wherever you would like. Okay, I'm going to kick us off. How did you discover the office?
Starting point is 00:05:25 Was it with your family? Did you watch it with your folks? Well, okay, so as a little kid when this was all starting, I didn't watch it as a kid, because it's not a kid show. It's not super appropriate. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:05:37 But I would hear it all the time and I would hear people talk about it and that's what she said was constantly being said, and I remember it was a really big part of my childhood was not understanding what that's what she said meant. Oh, no. And I would, I'd get very, very frustrated.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And I would ask people, what does that mean? You know what you would explain it to me. I don't ever remember hearing the first time about the office. Like it was just, I just knew about it forever. It was like the beginning. Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember finding it. I don't remember hearing about it.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I just, it was just part of life. It was like, you learn to speak and you don't, there's not like a day that you learn to speak. You're just speaking. Yeah. And so that was kind of with the office. And then I just didn't understand that's what she said. And I remember there was a specific moment. I must have been nine years old.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And I was sitting in my kitchen. And my mom had a bunch of people over that I didn't really know. And somebody said something and somebody said that's what she said. And everybody laughed. And I remember understanding it for the first time. And being like, let's fucking go. And then that was like, I was like, okay, got it. And then you're like, TWSS.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Got it. Yes. And then I got like into that. And then I must have started watching it when I was probably 11. Do you remember the first episode you saw? I think I started it from the beginning. Really? I've seen it now.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I believe it's about 30 times. 30 times? All the way through. You're a purist. Yeah. Do you only watch it in order? Do you skip around? Sometimes I skip specific episodes.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Oh. I can't wait to hear that. It's honestly, like, Scott's Tots, I can't handle it. Oh. Is that the cringiest for you? Can't do it. It's so cringe. secondhand embarrassment, I just can't handle it. When we've been doing our rewatch, the one that
Starting point is 00:07:23 hit me hard was Prince Family Paper. Yeah, that broke my heart. When they take down that sweet family paper company and how bad he feels about it, it's hard breaking. I don't think I could watch that one again. I think I'd have to skip it. That was hard for me. Well, so for you guys, have you guys watched it all the way through fully or no? Okay, this might break your spirit. No, no, it's Okay, I get it. Okay. We are rewatching it for the first time all the way through together. I mean, we'll catch an episode here or there like on a plane or maybe it will come up on Comedy Central or you know what I mean over the years. But this is the first time I have sat down and done a full rewatch.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah, watched it in order from beginning to end. Yeah. When it originally aired, we would get together as a cast and we would have cast screenings on Thursday nights and watch it in each other's living rooms. And so I saw most of the episodes then. but I didn't watch every single episode. And so there's going to be a few that I haven't seen before. I'll be seeing them for the first time, which is crazy. It is crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Oh, my God, you haven't seen all of them? Not all of them. I would say 98%. Yeah. We tried to watch everyone when they aired. But it is very surreal because you're watching a version of you from, my God, what is it, 15 years ago? Yes, yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:08:43 I mean, who was the kid that came? up to you and was like, you look like an older version of Pam. And you were like, I am an older version of Pam. Yeah. Oh, no. He said, when was that? I was in a Target and he was like, I'm sorry. Has anyone ever told you, you look like an older version of the person who played Pam on the office? And I said, I am an older version of the person who played Pam on the office. Oh, my God. And he kind of didn't believe me. He wasn't sure. No, they don't. But that happens. I mean, a lot of people discover the show. through streaming and don't really have a concept of like how old it is, how far it goes back.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I know, because it hasn't really aged. I don't feel like it's aged much. It feels, it doesn't feel like an old show to me. There's some shows you watch and it's like, this feels old. I mean, maybe like people, because of the way the world is, it's aged in terms of humor. We say entertainment was a timestamp of when it was made. Yeah. That's all I think it would be, but it hasn't aged. It's aged very well, in my opinion. Yeah, it holds up. It does. It cracks me up. Billy, I have a question. This is from my daughter Harper.
Starting point is 00:09:50 She would like to know if you could only watch one episode of the office for the rest of your life, which one would it be? Oh, my God. I wouldn't want to watch just one for the rest of my life. I've thought about this a lot, though. Honestly, rewatching it, I just, I fall in love with different parts of it and different episodes every time. But my favorite kind of, one of my favorites was my favorite for a long time was beach games. That one really gets me. Yeah, it just gets me.
Starting point is 00:10:15 The scene where... Actually, the scene where Andy is in the sumo suit, and then he's, like, so sad, and it's this really heart. He's, like, slow, like, he's like, oh, it, like, hurts my stomach. Like, the way he's looking at the water, and he slowly just wants to touch the water, and then he falls in, and then you're there, you're like, I can't hear you, what? He's like, get help. Poor Ed Helms.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You know that's really Ed. Even when he's floating far away, it was not a double. We just floated Ed out in that river. There was a man in a little, like, rowboat thing with a rope tied to Ed, and he would, like, pull him out. Oh, my God. I know. I loved that. I got to walk across the hot coals.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Uh-huh. Was it actually hot coals? No. Did I make you believe it was? Yeah, you did. Tell me what it was, because I think it's just as painful. It was. So it was like real lava rocks over. They dug a ditch in the ground, and then they kind of filled it with some lights, with gels to give it that glow. And then on top of that, they put like real lava rocks. And then along the side were real flames. So. Oh, so it was still really warm. It was sort of warm. Like, they were very specific. Do not get near the edges of this firewalk thing, this coal walk.
Starting point is 00:11:41 You saw your bare feet on a little sharp little... Thank you. I say it was like running over a bunch of Lego. Yeah. Eek. How that feels. So it was painful, but not because it was hot, just because it was like digging into my feet. Yeah. And how many times did you do it?
Starting point is 00:11:57 I think we did about three takes. Okay. Yeah. So not too bad. Pretty good. Yeah. And it was cold. It was so cold.
Starting point is 00:12:04 What was your guys is, like, what was your favorite episode to shoot? Oh. I love this question because it's not what our favorite episode is. Because filming it. That's what I mean, right? That's what I mean. Yeah. Because that's another question of like, what is your favorite episode?
Starting point is 00:12:20 What's your favorite episode that you shot? You've got a lot of big questions. I think I can actually sum it up into one answer. Okay. I'm going to say Dundies because we were out of the office kind of for the first time. And we were on a location and it had a slumber party feel to it. Because we didn't really have trailers or anywhere to go. And we were just hanging in that fake chili.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And for like, you know, 12 hours, we're just in that one room. Yeah. And it was just fun and funny and nonstop. And I got to be drunk. Yeah. Or pretend to be. Steve kept improvising with Rain on that keyboard, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Dwight would do different things and we kept cracking up. Well, don't give Rain Wilson a keyboard that makes sound. No. Unless. Or a burp noise. Yeah. No. That was a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:12 He was just going crazy with it. To the point. where I think they were like, hey, Rain, can you let Steve get through one without the sound of no, I totally remember because Steve, like, as Steve as Michael was making a speech, and Rain kept hitting the, oh yeah. Exactly. They were like, okay, you have to stop. Yeah. So that's your favorite to film and maybe one of your favorite episodes? Yeah, and here's the crazy thing because, you know, there was a big debate on that episode because we thought it might be the last episode of the office that ever aired. because, yeah, for that season, we only got picked up for six episodes.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah. And it wasn't looking great. And so we had this big debate. Can you believe that when you think about it now? It's weird now, but that was our life for the first two seasons. At the end of the six episodes, they had our names, you know, on paper that they had laminated and velcrowed to our trailer doors. And I went and I un-veldcrowed my paper laminated name.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I was like, well, that was fun. I'm going to take this on. Yeah. After the six episodes? Yeah. This was after, yeah, this was our season two pickup. Yeah. And we thought maybe Dundies would be our farewell.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And I remember standing in the parking lot with Greg Daniels and saying, do we think Jim and Pam should kiss outside of the Dundies just in case there's no more episodes of the office? Ever? Like should we have it as an alt? Yeah, yeah. And then if they cancel the show, you can put that scene in. And if they don't cancel the show, we'll save it. And Greg said, no, we're not going to give them the option. If they want to see you two kiss, they're going to have to pick up the show.
Starting point is 00:14:48 We're not going to give them the footage. That's right. But hold up. Pam does kiss. She does kiss Jim. Okay. I think they don't kiss till casino night. Are you crazy?
Starting point is 00:14:58 She kisses them on the roof. I know, but it was like a sloppy fall into you kiss. It wasn't like kiss. Okay. I say, I know, I know. John and I argued about this too. You say Jim and Pam's first kiss is Casino Night? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Well, that's their first, like, intentional... Smoo-y-Smooch. Together, you know, consensual kiss. Yeah. Yeah. Or their first, like, passionate, really, whatever. And, yeah, I guess in Dundies, it's more... You're drunk and you love him and he's your friend and you hug him.
Starting point is 00:15:34 My mouth is falling onto his mouth. Okay, well, you know what I mean? Like, that's like... I don't know about this far. The argument is getting weaker for me. No. No, but, you know, when we talk to John about it, John was like, from Jim's perspective,
Starting point is 00:15:48 they kissed. He got a kiss from this girl that he's liked forever. Yeah. Well, wouldn't you? Yeah, I would agree with Jim's perspective. Yeah. I get it, though. I hear it all.
Starting point is 00:16:00 What about you, and what's your favorite episode to shoot and or to? Oh, man, this is so hard. I loved filming the Christmas episodes. They were so huge. My character always lost her mind. You know what I mean? Just screaming and throwing ornaments and stomping. And I loved all of that.
Starting point is 00:16:18 So filming Christmas was really fun. I loved the scene in Yankee Swap when we all sat in a circle and traded gifts. And I got that jazz poster, babies playing jazz instruments. Some people like these. Such a good line. And it hung by my desk for like years. I have one at home. I do.
Starting point is 00:16:37 But I feel weird putting it up because it is babies like with the playing instruments. Okay, but what my favorite episode is is changing all the time now that we're watching it. I feel the same. And I rewatched, oh God, it was so funny with my daughter, I rewatch the deposition. My character is barely in it. Like, really, I don't think I have a single line in it. Jan in that deposition. And then when they get Michael's journal and his journal is so dorky, but it's like I'm dorky.
Starting point is 00:17:07 when I journal. Oh, we know, Ange. Oh, it's really important. Do you journal? I love to journal. Okay, listen. You do? I do. Oh, okay. You've made Angela so happy. I journal, too, but she is such a dorky journaler. Well, we brought in one of my journals that I wrote in my 20s, and I was interning on Conan. I was living in New York. And I literally wrote something like, you'll never believe what happened today, but I got to run. Stay tuned. I'll fill you in later. XOXO, X-XO, Angela. Right? But that's like, who am I writing to? I'm such a dork. You're writing to yourself.
Starting point is 00:17:40 I know. Your future self. Oh, it's a big deal. It's cute. Do you journal, like, what do you journal? Is it just like free association? I journal, I journal on my phone because it's easier for me. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I'm not a fast writer. And I just journal anything that I think because I noticed, I've noticed in my life that, you know, you get excited and you tend to lie to yourself about your life and your situation and, like, how you feel about stuff because you really want to feel something. Yeah. And then you think, well, if I just say that's how I feel, then that's how I feel. I've been journaling for a while, but this year I was specifically like, you know what? I feel like I've done a lot of lying to myself about how I'm really feeling.
Starting point is 00:18:20 So I'm just going to, because I'm worried people are going to find it or post it or like tell somebody because that's a big fear of having this kind of life. Yeah. And so I just made a decision to just write down every thought like with, with the comfort that no one's going to read it, no one's ever going to know. Right. I'm not going to have to worry about it. It's just for me.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Right. So I just write freely anything that I think, which is dangerous for sure. But it feels really good. It feels a lot better. It makes me feel good. Yeah. I have those journals. I have those journals from my 20s especially where I lay it all out.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And I do have a slight fear that, like, I'm going to pass away and, like, my kids are going to find And these are not all the things that my kids need to know about me. So I have an agreement with Angela. They're in a special cabinet and I show Angela where they were. Okay. And so if anything happens to me, it is Angela's job to go in and burn the journals. And destroy them. Because they destroy them.
Starting point is 00:19:23 They're for me. That's what she said. Oh, my God, dude. But this is your legacy, though. Like, you're you. I know. People want your words after you pass on, dude. Do I want people to have me?
Starting point is 00:19:35 me. I don't know. It's mostly like, that's for me. And I like to go back and reflect. Like, I like to go back and be like, what was my mind at 27? Where was I? What did I care about? What was I interested in? What was I worried about? You know, and you see patterns over time when you review your journals. I see habits, habits of thinking, habits of behavior. It's really fascinating, you know? But it's so personal. I don't, I'm not sure. Like, in order to give me the freedom to really write it down, I need to know that Angela's going to burn them if anything happens to me. And I told her I will torch them. It's a best friend agreement.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I mean, that's really sweet. So I'm glad you guys have that. You need a BFF who can torch. I know the problem is mine are all digital. So that's an issue. Well, I exist forever. It does. And I've started a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I know I'm like a dinosaur, but that notes app on my phone. Mm-hmm. So I love to write comedy. I love to, like, study people. So I have a whole notes on my phone. Jenna, I don't even know if I've ever shared this with you of just observations of people, situations, things that I might find funny. I have a handwritten notebook of that. You do? Yeah, I wrote one down the other day. I said, in case I ever need to play characters, I can look at all these notes. Woman who reapplies her lipstick immediately after finishing a meal. That's a person. That's a thing. That's a thing. That's a full character. I have a question for both of you. Because I know what some of this stuff is like.
Starting point is 00:21:11 What did you hate doing or, like, the process of making? By the end of the run, it was less fun to sit in the background of all the scenes. I think about that a lot when I'm watching, because you guys really be doing that. Like, you guys are in the back of a lot of shots. Everybody. Like, all of the one-offs, like the talking heads. And you don't even think, when you're, watching you. Honestly, I don't even think about it unless, like, I religiously watch like
Starting point is 00:21:40 the bloopers of all the stuff. And I, and that's when I notice, I'm like, oh, my God. Leslie David Baker and Creed are in the back. Yeah. In the back of every single one. Yeah. I know. For nine years. For nine years. I sometimes lucked out because I was behind a partition. And so I could be like, come on, guys. You can't see Angela ride in here. Come on. You can barely see me when I stand up. I know for me, the thing. that really got old was the fake pregnant belly because you had a body suit with the belly and it was itchy and heavy. And Jenna had it first and she was really griping about it. And I was like, okay, all right, it can't be that bad. And then I had it. And I was like, are you kidding me with
Starting point is 00:22:25 this thing? Like to go pee? Forget it. You're my... It was 20 minutes to get out of it. Under this pillow thing. Wow. So it's not just a belly. It's like a full piece. It's like a... It's like a wet suit. But then a little pocket that a belly goes down. So your legs and your arms are in that thing. Yeah. You step into it, right? And
Starting point is 00:22:45 how about this? We haven't gotten there yet. But when Robert California has this big party, we all go in the swimming pool and they had me swim with that fake belly. Guess what? It absorbs water. I was like, oh, bloat. I was like, oh my God. I thought you didn't sink to the bottom
Starting point is 00:23:02 with your tiny self. I know. I got to a good core workout. Do you have a favorite season of the office? I do. You do. What is it? Okay. Three, four, and also five, but three and four are like unbelievable. Five is also incredible. Yeah. Incredible. But three and four, like, it's just like Jim and Pam get together around there. Things are good. We're like, Michael's not leaving yet. We're in a good zone, man. There's not conflict as much yet. There's not, like, the senator yet. There's not Robert California yet. There's not Joe.
Starting point is 00:23:37 There's not Gabe yet. And it still, it stays really good. But those just couple seasons are just like, yeah, happiness. Can I bring you into a controversy? Yeah, please. Do you think that it was okay that Jim bought his parents' house in Framed Toby without telling Pam first? Where do you stand? Romantic or controlling?
Starting point is 00:23:56 I don't love it. But also, people in their relationships, have their own what's okay and what's not. That's a great answer. Even though these are not real characters, they are in the show, and it's not, it's up to Pam whether it was okay or not,
Starting point is 00:24:12 not me. Exactly, and I think it made Pam's like life. She felt so taking care of. And also what I liked was that at first, you're like, you thought this without telling me and like look at all these weird things going on. And you have this whole concern,
Starting point is 00:24:26 and everyone that's watching is like, yeah, what the hell is going on? Yeah. And then it's this very sweet, touching moment of you being like, I love it. Like, look at this. Like, I don't even care about any of the anything, but you bought me this, you know? You bought me a house. It's amazing. So it's like, I think you can see it from both sides. Like, I wouldn't want someone to do that in my life. But also it's like, it depends on the situation and the person and your life and the thing, you know. And I think also what came before it was Roy, who was so noncommittal. They were engaged for so. long. And then you meet us. And then you meet Jim who's like all in. Yeah. And how good that must have felt. Yeah. It's true, actually. And someone who didn't do anything for Pam ever. And then it's like, yeah, maybe it's so far the other direction that it could be too far. But it's so nothing like she's ever experienced that it's like really touching to do that, you know, which is sweet.
Starting point is 00:25:25 It's interesting because when that episode came up, I said, and we've had these conversations, before, what do you do when something has been written for your character? Yeah, that you don't agree with. Yeah, that you're like, how do I get behind this? I don't know how to wrap my head around it. And Greg said something similar, which is that Jenna wouldn't like this, but Pam does. And very similarly, Jenna does not like being tickled, but Pam seemed to respond well to it. When Roy tickles her, she would always, like, come around, she liked being tickled.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And I was like, but this one's really different. for me because I have a physical, like, visceral response to tickling that just causes sort of rage. Oh, my God. Dude, my mother is over there. Is this true? I'm getting a thumbs up from your mom. I have to resist with all my might hitting the person. Yes. Yes. Thank you. I feel seen. Tickling is a serious thing. My brother tickled me. We were in anthropology when I was a little kid and my brother started tickling me and I had an overreaction to make him feel bad. I was like, oh my God, stop. And I like swung my whole body and I bonged myself on the corner of a table and gave myself a black eye. Oh no. And I always blamed him because he was tickling me. Did he ever tickle you again?
Starting point is 00:26:48 Yeah. Okay. He did. But he was scared to because I'd be like, I'll give myself a black eye and I'll blame it on you. Yeah. Older brother gets the punishment. But no, I agree that I'd be furious if somebody bought a house and didn't ask me or tell me. Yeah. Be furious. Jenna wouldn't like that. Yeah. But then it's also like funny when you sell the house.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I'm telling him absolutely bonkers if that happens. But it's like you have a point. You're like, well, you bought it without telling me. So I thought I could sell it without telling you. Every time I hear that line, I'm like, unbelievable. I know. You bought the house without telling me. So I'm like, sell it.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I know. It's a weird bookin. It's a crazy relationship. Maybe she had been holding on to it a little bit. I don't know. Clearly, yeah. Clearly. I mean, every week I had to, like, reconcile with a character that was very different from me.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Like, oh, yeah. All of my reactions, everything. So I can really relate to that. I mean, there were plenty of times where I was like, okay, can we dial Angela back just a little? Like, can she not always just be the bitch? And I loved that note that Ken Kwapis gave me. He was like, Angela, today, why don't you try being the suspicious bitch? And I was like, ooh, she's totally different than like the strict bitch, suspicious bitch.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Was there anything in Angela's character that you did, like, resonate with at all? I mean, I do love animals. I mean, I don't know. I haven't ever licked my cat. I did really do that, Billy. Yeah, I was going to ask. I really licked it. I love that you did.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I mean, they were like, it's just one take. Just one take, we're going to be a little bit closer. And I was like, oh, and then. I licked the cat. But I also like Angela. She's, once she's in, she's very loyal. Like, you know, like, I don't think she ever gave up on Dwight, even though they were such a weird on and off again romance.
Starting point is 00:28:46 But he was her soup snake, you know? It's true. So I guess those two things, but pretty much nothing else. If you were an office character, which one would you be? Good one. I've always really resonated with Michael's character, which is maybe problematic. I just, and I've said that before to like my mom or like my parents and my brother and stuff. But it's really true.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I see a lot of my, this character and not some stuff, like more of just like, I can't even really explain it. There's just something that I really, really, really relate to about. his character. One of my favorite moments is when he can't help but shout, that's what she said. Even if he's like furious. Like when she
Starting point is 00:29:39 is this about to throw the dundee at the TV and they're having that argument and he's like so angry and he's clearly just so sad and like, you know. And then she's like you're hardly my first and he's so angry but he has this need
Starting point is 00:29:55 to say that's what she said because he know I need to say it, and he just shouts it at her. Michael also just has such a pure heart. He really does. I know. He's pretty, like, just a person who just wants love and to be loved, but he goes about it so wonky. But I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Whenever he has to yell something, every time I lose it. Oh, it's so funny. I hadn't seen him yell. I declare bankruptcy until we rewatched it. Yeah. And just, like, his need to do that, to make this announcement is like, Amazing. It just hurts my soul how he's like, that's how he thinks you declare bankruptcy. You declare it out loud in a room. It's done. I've done it. I just feel that. Okay. And this is a part that I find. So starting to watch The Office at a really young age, I almost didn't understand any reference whatsoever. I just thought it was funny. And I thought, you know, it was, it was funny. I just liked the show in general. But a lot, most of the references, I had no idea who anybody was, no idea what movies they were referencing. So something I do blame the office for, to be honest, is – but then also I blame myself
Starting point is 00:31:04 that I blame the office is – is there's so many things that are said, especially by Michael, in the office, that he says wrong on purpose, like written on purpose. Yeah. That I didn't even know the real word. So I said many words wrong because I learned them from Michael Scott. Were you a little stitious? I was a little – That one I knew.
Starting point is 00:31:28 That was one that I knew, and I was very proud that I knew that one. But like, insurmountable, to be honest. I thought that was a word. I thought, this has happened many times. I never thought about this filter of the office that on a younger person, they're learning Michael's vocabulary. Yes. Learning his vocabulary, because I thought I was learning new words. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Which I was. They were just wrong. And then same when, you know, the joke when Aaron is like, my New Year's resolution was to learn a new word every day. Yeah. And it is going immensely. Yeah. I didn't get that. I was like, oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I'll start seeing that. So now, because I have said so many things wrong. Mom, do you remember off the top of your head some more ones that I just said that everyone was like, what the hell? I remember when you first heard that you two was from Ireland. Oh, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys. What? Okay. This is, this is the worst one. Sweet, sweet Bono is a supporter of mine. Yeah. And I, I love him. My God. Amazing. Yeah. My God. Here's the issue, guys. What? What? Literally in June, this last June, we were in Ireland. So very recently, we were in Ireland. And I get, oh, God, I'm in my hotel.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And I get flowers delivered to my hotel room and it has a little letter on it. And it's this really, really sweet letter and it says from Bono. And I was like, why would Bono, who's from Scranton? You thought Bono was from Scranton, Pennsylvania? I go, why would he send me something in Ireland? What does this have to do with him? And it was like welcome to, like, it was something about like welcome to my like hometown or something. like that. But you two is from Scranton. And I was like, I kept asking everyone like, what was, what is, what is, what is
Starting point is 00:33:34 doing sending me flowers all the way across the world? From Scrant. Why would he do that? What is, what does this have to do with anything? And they were like, Billy, what are you talking about? They're Irish. I was like, no, they're not. Have you, have you told him this story yet? No. Oh, my God. But it's because when, when Michael falls in love with Holly and he's making her a mix and, freak, I, blame John for this because Jim comes in and Michael goes, what's the band from Scranton that made it big? Is that you too? And Jim goes, yes. And then he sits down and he goes, you don't love Holly. That's all there is. It's not even, there's no pause. There's no laugh. But if you've seen it 30 times, then guess what? You too is from Scranton. I thought it was like, honestly,
Starting point is 00:34:19 in my head, I thought, Jim thought, oh, that's a stupid question because obviously they're the band that made it big from Scranton. I thought if it was like, I thought it was like the question like, is, you know, oh, I don't even know, like, is, like, is so and so that's very obviously from this place. Yeah. Are they from that place? You're like, yeah, obviously. I thought that was the vibe. Instead of no, not at all, their whole thing instead of. This is in June. June. I didn't know. Like, I could have been in an interview. Somebody could have asked me about what you do in Bono. And I could. Okay. Well, it's really cool because here's the thing. Here's the thing. We are going to give you our phone numbers. Anytime you come up on something like, is this? Just text us. We're like you're up. Yeah, I'm going to need to do that.
Starting point is 00:35:11 How much do you watch The Office? Because I read in an interview that it's like all the time. Okay. So I play it. It's playing only. on my phone. I don't watch it on anything else. It's playing on my phone at all times when I'm doing anything. When I'm like in the shower, I have it sitting outside the shower. I can't have any silence, guys. It's like right outside the shower. It's like when I'm getting dressed, when I'm eating food, when I put on makeup, when I do my hair, when I, like, it's like truly playing always just in my hair. Like I'll just, honestly, I'll be, I was like rearranging my closet a couple months ago or maybe longer ago, and it was just in my pocket. I couldn't even see it. It was just in my pocket
Starting point is 00:35:57 and the audio was playing. And it's like, I listened to it like it's a podcast. Also, because I've seen it so many times, I have it all memorized, like all the lines memorized, and all the visuals memorized, so I can picture it. I don't, I'm not missing. You don't even need to look at it. I don't even need to look at it. This makes something your mom said to me when we met when you got here make perfect sense. Maggie said to me, I feel like I know you guys because I hear your voices all the time. And I thought, well, all the time? All the time. And, you know, I don't live at home anymore, but when I lived at home, it was, I mean, it's just, it's just, you can just hear it. And I also have like weird needs. Again, I have these weird, I have like a need to like, if I'm eating, I have to have the office playing or something playing, preferably the office and silence otherwise. Like nobody, if you talk to me, I'm not there. I'm not there. And so, but when I was living at home, I'd be like, go. going into my parents' kitchen, where my parents were, and being like, shh, turning on the office
Starting point is 00:36:57 and being like, don't talk to me. I'm watching the office. I'm eating my waffles. Leave me alone. Maggie, we love you. We love you guys. Parents are amazing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Oh, actually, Jenna, I'm curious. So you're Michael Scott, right, Billy. Which office character are you? Me? Who am I most like? Yeah. Ooh. So I'm most like Pam.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Like, there was so much of me that was Pam. that was Pam and so much of my early life as a struggling actress that I brought to Pam. I mean, I literally know what it feels like to sit at a reception desk and wish that I had an artistic career because I was a receptionist. So I know that longing and I know that feeling of wanting something to change, but feeling like I'm in a place where nothing ever changes. So I definitely could relate to that, but I am an action person. So I am not a wait for it to come to me person. And I feel like Pam, it was harder for her to get herself started or take movement, you know? So I'm just much more ambitious than Pam. I always say it would not take, it would not have taken me like three years
Starting point is 00:38:09 to kiss the cutie in the office. Right. We're not waiting that long for that. Like that's happening much sooner. Would have happened at the Dundees, probably, if I were in charge. Like, for Reels, though, you know, not the not the drunken, not the falling onto his lips kiss, yeah. But I also think I have a tiny bit of Ryan and me. I have a lot of...
Starting point is 00:38:34 She is falling. She loves Ryan now. I have fallen in love with Ryan on this rewatch. Which version of him? There's serious different versions. Talk about so many versions of a character. Those are like, it's like he's playing different characters. I think my favorite is Ryan the temp. So I
Starting point is 00:38:50 Like early Ryan, but I guess it's just, I have a lot of entrepreneurial ideas that go nowhere. You know, gadgets that I've invented in my mind and things that, you know, never get made and whatever. We've discussed on the podcast before that with my high school best friend, we invented something called the tan baster. It is a way to put on a sun tanning lotion without getting your hands dirty. It's called the tan baster. You know the thing that you wash dishes with that, like, fills with dish soap and then has a sponge on the end? Yes. So it's very similar, but with suntan lotion. And then you can also get the middle of your back with it. You know what I'm saying? The tan baster. I know. Bless your heart. The tan baster. Someday, I need you. Why are you going on HDTV?
Starting point is 00:39:40 I don't know. I mean, I think I should call my friend and we should get it going again. Welcome to Celebrity Shark Tank. Today we have Jenna Fisher. Can you imagine you're so humiliating? You should do it. You're really passionate about it. You're so passionate, man. You just described it for so long. But what do you think? What's your honest opinion?
Starting point is 00:40:01 I don't know. It's not happening, is it? Don't send me on shark tank. There's lots to be humiliated. There's lots of other inventions that do well that are stupider. Oh, my God. That's your. It's not a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:40:15 It's really not. I mean, I totally get it. like, you know, you get your hands all gross when you, I get it, especially at the beach and then you've got sand on your hands. I think you need to let it go. I think you need to let it go. One day, maybe. I'll have time. You know what? Tans are going to come back into fashion and when they do, I don't think tans are in fashion anymore. No, it's for the suntam lotion. It means sunscreen. The sunscreen, I'm sorry, yes. All of these years, you have told me about this. I thought it's like a spray tan and a tube. No, lady. It's a, and I think. And I thought,
Starting point is 00:40:48 Applying sunscreen. I thought this is such an uneven tan. It looks like from a sponge. Well, that would be true if that's what it was for. Are you behind it now that you understand it? And sunscreen. I want you to go for this now. Applying sunscreen.
Starting point is 00:41:00 What about your face? It doesn't work on the face. No squeegey for the face. Well, we already have those like, you know, deodorant sticks that we can put on our face. The problem is that the rubbing in is where you distribute it evenly. And so that you actually get all the little cracks and crevices. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:20 You know what? Workshop. When we're testing that in our focus groups, we're going to think about that. We're going to make sure that we get a sponge that can apply evenly. So, Ryan, because of your ideas. Thank you for bringing us back. Sorry. Just had to come back.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Oh, my God. Ryan, because of your ideas, what about you? I think I'm a little, maybe a Phyllis Angela combo. platter, maybe a little bit. I'm a little bit, Angela. And then Phyllis has a little sauce. You know, she like hooked up with Bob Vance on the bathroom. She does. I have a little bit of that. Phyllis is a freak. A little bit. I might have a little bit of that combo in me. What do you think, Jenna? I think you are way more Phyllis than Angela. There's almost no Angela in Angela, except for maybe love of animals. But I think, yeah, I think Phyllis. I think
Starting point is 00:42:13 Phyllis is a strong choice. Maybe with the side of Kelly, like chatty Kelly. Yes, Angela's very chat. I do like to chat. Yeah, I get it. I feel that. I feel that for sure. Like, I could go to your family reunion and I wouldn't have a problem. I wouldn't miss the beat. Wow. I could go to your cousin's wedding. I'd have the time of my life. Well, I think that's also like you're a good hang. That's what that is also. Thanks, Billy. That's a good thing. Oh my gosh. When you can just bit right in anywhere, you're good. Oh, oh, oh, oh, I have a thing. What is it? Okay. Okay. I just got very excited about this. So, How many cast members have you met from the office? So I've met Creed. Yes. I've met Rain. Mm-hmm. You know what's interesting? I've spoken on the phone with Steve and...
Starting point is 00:42:59 Brian. Yes, Brian. Yeah, that's right. Steve and Brian. I think that... Oh, I've met... I've met Mindy and I've met BJ. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Oh, well, actually, okay, so two interesting things. Mm-hmm. When I was a kid, I think I must have been, I'm four and a half years younger than my brother, and he was probably 13 or 14. So I was some years younger than that. My brother was in Bad Teacher, which is with Cameron Diaz. And I was like a little kid, and I remember going to hang out on set at one point and standing in craft services. And Phyllis was right there.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And I hadn't seen the office. I was like, I must have been like, you know, I was probably like eight or nine or something. And she was standing there and I remember somebody saying like, she's in the office. And I remember thinking, the office, like, I know that show. That's really cool. I've never seen it, but that's really cool. And I remember standing right next to her, like she was right here and she was eating chips or something and she was having a conversation with something. And I just remember looking up at her and being like, she's a star.
Starting point is 00:44:09 And she doesn't know that. I don't think I've ever spoken to her. That was like a big deal for me. I talked about that for a long time after. And she has no idea that that little kid was me also. And then the other thing is my mom's, one of my mom's long-lasting best friends is Amy Ryan. Oh my gosh. So I grew up around Amy.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Yeah. And so, you know, I knew her, we knew her like before she was obviously. cast. Yeah. And, um, and then she was just like one of my mom's friends. And then she, uh, once I started being a fan of the office, it, it was hard for me to be around her. It was, I was, because she was Holly. She was Holly. Right then, too. And I was like, I was like, peak the office was, was it. It was, it was, it was, yeah. So she, she has been in my life for a long time and she has a daughter who's a few years younger than me and I we would we would uh go to their house and like I'd play with her daughter and it was cool yeah she's she's great I love her
Starting point is 00:45:18 she's she's great I love Amy hearing that Amy is amazing you know it's interesting because my daughter one of my daughter's friends recently started watching the office I have known this little girl they're 14 now I've known her since kindergarten right best friends since kindergarten she was over at the house the other day and she was like looking at me like this like oh my god and i was like i turned around i was like what's that what's going on she's like sorry i started watching the office oh my god i was like i have known you forever but now i'm angela martin you know and i'm like oh my gosh it's so funny you know what the other one was i i used to be a camp counselor and there was this girl and she was like my favorite student at
Starting point is 00:45:59 the camp and her name was piper and i loved her to pieces and her mom would come to her every day and I was like, that's Jan. That's literally Jan. And I was like, is your mom Jan? And she was like, yeah. Oh my gosh. That is crazy. That's so cool. It's Jan. And I tried not to freak her out because I'm sure she was annoyed with that a lot. But I think about her a lot. I hope she's doing well. Okay, I have a message for you from Creed. Okay, so Creed is my neighbor. Really? Yeah, he lives down the street from me. No way. Walking distance. Yeah. Like we, we, sometimes we walk, we call it the sauce trail. We get an adult beverage and a red solo cup and we go for a walk. And he often comes over and brings his guitar and like jams out. He'll be like, Angie, I have a new album. You want to hear it? I'm like, yes. It's like one of the joys of my life. But he, we were texting because he loves animal documentaries and he was texting me recently that he wants me to come watch one. And I said, hey, I said, have you met Billy Eilis? She's coming into the studio. We're so excited. And he wrote back and he said, yes, I have. I met her brother also. She's been ghosting me for a while.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And then he called me and he said, I'm kidding, Pumpkin. I'm kidding. And I said, I figured you were kidding. And he said, I was blown away by her voice. I got to see her in concert. She's amazing. I loved meeting Phineas too. And will you tell her that if she ever wants to talk music or jam to come over, I'm around? Yeah. Oh, that's sweet. I know. I met a. for like a split second. He came to one of my shows like three and a half years ago. And I was meeting million people and I was like, it's fucking great. I went over and I looked at him. It was really cool. But you know what's funny about like, I love that his just all of his musical talent just comes through throughout the show. And what I think is really cool is, you know, when he's singing spinning and reeling with love at the Christmas party, when everybody's doing characters, I love that that's in there because it's his song, but you don't know that, and you think he's just, honestly, because here's one more thing, is that I watch that thinking, this is probably a super famous song. Everybody knows, and he's doing a karaoke to it. And I always thought the song was really cool. And I find a lot of the music that I love through other things and like hearing in the background of something and looking up the lyrics. And so I remember after a while being like, every time I watch that scene, I'm always like, oh, that song is really cool.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I love whatever song this is. What song is this? And I looked it up, honestly, probably like last year. And I saw that it was his song. And I was like, he's a great songwriter. He will just come over and play. And I mean, I'm always amazed. I'm amazed when I love to write, but it's always so interesting for me when people can put music to words because I can't hear music. That's such a gift. Like maybe it's maybe. Maybe. Maybe. some in another life, I'll get to hear music in my head like that, because that is so cool. And if you can't hear it, when you see people who can, it's like you're a little piece of magic that you get to witness. It's like so cool. Yeah, I'm the same way. My son is a musician. He's drummer and plays guitar. And from the time he was very little, he would be like three years old. We'd be driving somewhere. And from the backseat, he would say with his little voice, Mama, you play a song with a lot of ride symbol. Play a song with a lot of ride symbol.
Starting point is 00:49:38 And I would say, and I said, baby, I don't know what song has a lot of ride symbol in it. And then he, I mean, I'm going to get it wrong, but then he would say like some Green Day song. Right. And then I'd put it on and I'd be like, holy shit, there's a lot of ride symbol in this song. Wow. And so it is true because I'm seeing. that in my own house with this person who can, like, hear music in a way that I just, you know, it's so specific.
Starting point is 00:50:11 It's so interesting hearing that you guys can't. Have you ever tried to write a song? No, I haven't. No, I haven't. I mean, I've written poetry and I've written, you know, I was a English, I was a creative writing major, but I don't know that I can see it. Well, this is actually a great segue into my next question, which is that you sampled part of the episode, Threat Level Midnight. I did.
Starting point is 00:50:36 For your song, My Strange Addiction. I did. How did that come about? Well, first of all, I can't believe they let me do that because that's, I mean, that's wild to do that. Like, take audio from a show like The Office that's that big and that. I mean, come on. It was crazy. It was such a pipe dream.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I can't even tell you. It was wild that they said. yes, because we are now, we're going back now through emails from NBC and standards and practices and things like that, and they were super particular. They were. Yeah. But I remember all of the people whose voices you hear, like Brian Baumgartner's on there and at home. You hear Mindy, you hear John. I remember, I think you hear BJ, right? Yep. So I remember, and Steve, I remember each of those individuals had to give permission. Yes, they did. They were enthusiastic. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:28 So they were, it was a, let me tell you, the office text thread blew up. Oh, yeah. When that went out. Like, everyone was so excited. Yeah. Oh, my God. It was very, very cool. I mean, so the way that that happened was Phineas, my brother, had written this song called My Strange Addiction, just the words and, like, the whole song.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And he was like, Billy, I wrote this song, like, do you think it's cool? And he played it for me, and he had this beat to it that was, like, so good. And I was like, dude, this reminds me of the song that they dance to. The scar. This reminds me of the scar. And he was like, what do you talk about? And I played the scene. And it just, just when he hits that button in the jukebox and it's like, it's like, it's so like, it's so stupid, but it's so good. I was like, this is giving me that same feeling of like dumb, but kind of groovy as shit. And so we were like, Oh, my God, that would be so... And also, the song is, it's, you know, kind of a playoff of, you know, the show, My Strange Addiction. Do you guys know that show? And it's about people with these weird addictions to, like, weird stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:42 You know, Phineas wrote the song, but it's kind of about, like, you know, I've got an addiction, but it's to you. But I kind of was like, well, the office is also my addiction. Your addiction, yeah. And this song is kind of goofy, and it reminds me of that scene. And also, then we were just watching the scene, and it's like, the way that Andy's voice sounds and the way that Steve is just it's just the whole all the dialogue is so good and we were like dude what and we jokingly truly truly truly
Starting point is 00:53:08 jokingly like ripped the audio and just put it in the song and it was so perfect because Andy's name is Billy yeah seen yeah so then it's like no Billy I haven't done that dance since my wife's dead and we were like oh that'd be so crazy because my name is Billy yeah yeah and so we like put it to the song and there was not any reality that it would work or like be okay. But we were like, this is so funny. And we like sent it to the label and we were like, dude, like, can you just ask somebody?
Starting point is 00:53:37 We know it's going to be a no, but just ask somebody. There's no way they're going to give us the rights to this at all. No way. And it was like, yeah, absolutely they're not, but we'll ask, truly. And here we are. And then we did it. You did it. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:53:51 And it's really cute because, you know, the fans have that whole song memorized. And so when I do it live, they all shout all the parts. Oh, my gosh. Did they do their... I love Ed Holmes does a lot of great characters. You know, he's so funny like that. So good. And I loved Ed as Andy, Andy's version of what he thought that bartender was.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Like, hey, you, you know. Yeah. Yeah, it's so good. Oh, it's so good, guys. Guys, I just love this. We're having the best time. I know. I'm just like, I feel like I'm going to have sore cheeks because I'm spalling so much.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I know I feel the same. And I just, there's a lot of things that I love in the world and there's a lot of things that I'm passionate about. And I try not to be like a nerd about it. And truly, when I meet other people that like the office, I'm like, okay, whatever. Like, I don't care. I'm like, I'm not trying to relate to people about it because it's my own personal thing. And in my head, no one else knows the office except me.
Starting point is 00:54:45 It's my show. It's not, I'm not a, I'm not in a club of people. I'm not, I am very, I'm very pick me about it. I don't know if you guys know what that means, but I'm very, like, I'm very, like, no, no one's ever seen. It's like how you kind of, like, you joke about, like, your boyfriend and, no, he's never dated anybody, but me. Oh, right, right. The only reason he's ever been with. Right. That's how I feel. The office is like, it was made for you. Made for me. You guys shot for nine years, just for me. On your phone. Nobody's seen it before.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah. Yeah. On my phone. But, but truly, like, I don't, I don't really talk about it. Like, like, oh yeah, and my favorite show The Office, da, da, da, da. It's truly like such a deeper thing than that that when people are like so i heard your favorite show is the office i'm like don't say that it's it's somehow just sacred to me it's sacred it's like a yeah it's truly like a sacred part of of my personality and and so much of who i am and the things that i do and say and think like and also i just i base a lot of my life situations on tv shows like scenes from stuff and the amount of like one of my best friends many times earlier this year. We'd be like in a really deep conversation about like something really serious in my life. And I'd just take a pause and she'd be like, oh my God, I know
Starting point is 00:56:03 just what you're going to say. And I'll be like, well, well, but I have to, there's this one scene in the office where like this is happening. And I just, I use it as like a, this reminds me of that one scene and how they feel here. And I really feel like that right now. It's stupid, guys. Like, you really, you really have raised me in a way. are things that when they sort of get like, I don't know what the phrase is, but like kind of in your bones, you know what I mean? Like, then they become sacred to you. And like, if someone asked you about it, you're like, okay, first of all, how dare you? I know. That is mine. I know. But at the same time, you're like, okay. Yeah, let's talk about it. Yeah. How well do you
Starting point is 00:56:42 know it? Don't even come at me. I know. Well, that's the other thing is people are like, I love that. And I'm like, I referenced the shit out of this show. And I'll go, does anybody in this room know the office well enough to know like specific details and people go like yeah for sure and I'm like I just know it's not true I go okay so do you know in you know this one episode where where Michael is like doing this and then he's doing this and then somebody comes in and and everybody's like no sorry I don't know and also what's cool is my brother who's seen the office many times he and his girlfriend who's seen the office kind of the way everybody has where you've seen it she's never really watched it all the way through and so they've been watching it all the way through for the first time like as a whole since
Starting point is 00:57:26 it came out for phineas too and so for him everything's really fresh and so he's finally like oh billy we were watching we were watching the deposition the other day and that one scene what does he say and i'm like oh you mean yeah yeah oh so this and this and also like sometimes he'll just he'll reference something that he just watched and i'll immediately get the reference and be able to like recite the rest of the scene, which it's like a whole new level of your, like your siblinghood. It really is. I'm like, wow, you can finally. You see me. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. Do you want to do a scene with us? Oh, yes. Do you want to be in a scene with us? We printed out a scene from the show. Okay, I mean, first of all, Billy, I went to our actual shooting draft. So this is as we held it in our hands. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Let's see. Oh my gosh, in 2004. This is from 2004. I was two, you guys. Oh, my God. She was two years old. Look, I highlighted your parts. Jenna, you will play Pam. Okay. Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Billy, you are going to play Phyllis. We are going to do the first ever party planning committee scene. Oh, yeah. I know this scene quite well. Season one, episode four, The Alliance. Sure is. Okay. I'm going to also read our stage direction.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Party planning committee. Here we go. Interior Conference Room, Pam, Phyllis, and Angela, semicolon, the party committee. Well, for decorations, maybe we could do, no, that's stupid. Forget it. What? Well, I was going to say we could have streamers, but that's dumb. Everybody has streamers. Never mind. No, yeah. I think that's a good idea. What color do you guys think? Well, there's green, blue, yellow, red.
Starting point is 00:59:27 How about green? I think green is kind of horrish. Woo! You're officially in the PPC! It's so scary. We actually have for you. What do you have? We are in the party planning committee now.
Starting point is 00:59:44 We have a party planning committee sweatshirt for you. It's a special. There you go. You can plan as many parties as you want. Or, however, are you the committee to plan parties? Oh. Which one are you? Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:00:00 The committee to plan party was a pretty, it's pretty good party planning. Pretty good stuff. I know. Isn't it interesting, though, that the first time this scene was ever written, it's called the party committee. The party committee, I know. One of my favorite lines of yours, it's your one-off and you're like, Michael should have asked the party planning committee first.
Starting point is 01:00:21 He's not supposed to just spring things on as willy-nilly. And then you just, you're like, the hand-grab to your face of you crying is just, oh, it breaks my heart. Angela's whole, just like, clearly just like miserable life. Repressed. Miserable self. And then, and like, when you throw the, that whole episode, oh, my God. And the Yankee swap, just like how upset you are that it's not going how you want to. it to go. And you had a whole idea for how it was supposed to go. And Michael's just ruining
Starting point is 01:00:52 everything. And then Dwight kisses Kelly. And it's just, you're just, it's just furious, horrible day for you. And you throw the ornaments. Which by the way, we're supposed to shatter. But they didn't. Yeah, they don't shatter. I threw them and they, in the first take, I threw it and it bounced right back. And I was like trying to stay in character. But at the same time, I'm like, why the hell isn't this breaking? So then just in a pure rage, I just started screaming and stomping them, and that's what made it in. Your character is just everybody is Pam, you know? I feel like that's everyone's Pam, you know?
Starting point is 01:01:27 And I also love the way that Roy is written because it's so perfectly, he's got charm to him and he's got like, you can see it, but also he's so neglectful and like emotionally abusive that it's like you can totally see how you could get there. My dad had a saying for guys like that. He used to say, well, Ange, he's not a bad guy, but he's not worth much. And I'm like, that was Roy. That was Roy. It just made you feel like so shitty, you know?
Starting point is 01:01:58 It's just like so, oh, God, it's so good. And it's just like everything about Pam is just so heartbreaking. And just like, you really, you do it perfectly. Everything about it is perfect. Thank you. Guys, I'm serious. Like, the show, it just can't be beat. It just really can't.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I like a lot of shows, but it just, it's just the one, guys. I'm serious. We have two things we can do here. If you have any more questions for us, we've asked you all of our questions. So if you have any more questions for us, please ask. Also, we did prepare an office quiz that we would take against each other, and we don't know the answers. We don't know who would win. Would you like? By the way, we would love to do that. We haven't seen the questions. We don't know. Cassie prepared them. We haven't gotten to season eight yet. If you ask me a question from season eight, I'm not even going to know, because I haven't watched season eight since we filmed it. So that's like... Okay. So we'll intro the quiz then.
Starting point is 01:02:52 We'll say... Okay, so here's another interesting thing is that I just, every time I watch it all the way through, because again, I started from the beginning, and I finish it every time. I can't believe I do that. So where are you right now in this rewind? I finished it. Oh, you just recently finished it again. I finished it like a couple weeks ago. Okay. Every time I finish it, I take a couple weeks off, and then I started over. Okay. So I'm in my weeks off period. Okay. Which means, it's not right here. It's here. Billy, I'm pretty sure it's just in your DNA now. I think it is. I think it is. But for instance, and I think about this all the time, when Rain came over and did the office quiz with me, I was watching it, but I hadn't gotten to when Nelly is in the show. Yeah. And so she wasn't on my mind. I was just not there yet. And so he asked me a question about Nellie. And also I was nervous as shit. Dwight shirt sitting in my front of my face in my parents' house. And I was 16. Like, oh, my God. I was.
Starting point is 01:03:44 was so intimidated and nervous that when he asked me a question about Nelly, I just like, my brain just didn't work. And I just like forgot about her character for two seconds. And it was, until you said her name, I forgot like Catherine Tate's character's name was. Nelly character question. I completely forgot. Because we haven't gotten there yet. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Office quiz with Billie Eilish. Uh-huh. Yes. Starting hopefully from easy questions and it'll get harder. Oh, my God. Cassie. Okay. How many questions are there? There's 10. Is it just anybody shouted out, whoever's first? I think so.
Starting point is 01:04:17 But then you said Cassie, if we shouted at the same time, we each get a point and she has tiebreakers at the end. Okay. What? I didn't know any of these rules? Okay. Oh, yeah, sorry, that was a private conversation I had with Cassie. I didn't tell you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:30 All right. Here we go. What body part did Michael accidentally grill because he likes to wear his foot? Angela got it first. Okay, I didn't realize we could break in before the question was over. Yeah, it's true. See, I'm a rule follower for the end. No, it's vicious.
Starting point is 01:04:46 I'm slightly competitive. Number two, besides the bride, who wore white to Phyllis' wedding? Oh, that was so good. Okay. Three. What does Michael give Toby as a goodbye present? A rock. It's a brick.
Starting point is 01:05:07 It's a brick. No, it's a rock. It's a rock. It's a post-it note with a, um... Rubber band around. And what does the Post-it notes say? Suck it. Suck on this, guys.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Suck on this. Oh my God. Suck it is David Wallace's invention. I know. I knew Suck was on it. I knew suck was on this. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Who are the members of the Finer Things Club? Oscar, Pam, Toby. Y. Angela got it. I just stayed quiet on that one. You guys killed it. All right. Bonus.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Who wants to join? Me, Angela. No, Andy. Andy. I think Billy goes. Literally screaming. I think I just wanted to join in real life. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:53 What is Stanley's favorite day? Pressle Day. I feel like they all got it. Yeah. Okay, good. Finally. All right. In second life, Dwight creates a character that is exactly like himself in real life.
Starting point is 01:06:07 But he can fly. But he can fly. All right. What's the name of the song Jan keeps playing during dinner party? That one night. I don't know what the name is. They don't ever talk about the name. By Hunter.
Starting point is 01:06:21 By Hunter. That one night. Yeah. But they never talk about the name ever. Oh. Oh, so maybe it's not called that one night. It's just that's all you hear. She could contest that.
Starting point is 01:06:31 That's just the song. Listen, I don't think my point on that one is going to make any impact on the final score. Okay. Okay. Who is Gabe often mistaken as? Uh, Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln. Oh.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I was going to say a praying mantis. Does someone say that? A stick bug. A stick bug. Oh, gosh. All right. This is a fill in the blank question. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:06:57 If Creed can't blank. Scooba. Scuba, yeah. Good one. What's it all been for? Yeah. All right. So right now, the score is Billy has six, Angela is four.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Jenna has two. Oh, wow. So sad. That way. I will give you a point. for as many names as you can come up with this question. What? Name Angela Martin's cats.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Amber, Ash, sprinkles, bandit, lumpy, bandage. Garbage. Well, garbage, I guess she does keep in touch. Lady Princess. Princess Lady. Princess Lady. Ash. Diane.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Diane. Um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, comstock. Yeah. Oh, Comstock. Um, um, well, okay, but I don't know. how many we did we both were doing yeah i said i said amber ash we got sprinkles lumpy amber ash bandit princess lady princess lady diane um miss mr ash right that's mr ash did you say garbage we got garbage so sprinkles obviously are there more what are we missing more how many
Starting point is 01:08:04 more there's like 13 isn't there yeah there's 14 wait wait wait yeah i knew there were like 13 Yeah, there's eight left. The one with the, um... Is there one named Jenny? No. Does she say them all when... When Dwight is saying that he doesn't like sleeping on... No, she only says like four.
Starting point is 01:08:26 She says... Yeah, only four. Ash, lumpy, Diane. Oh, there's some... There's another one. I'm thinking of what letters that start with? Give me a letter. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Is it the one that's humping princess lady that we're forgetting or did we get him? I think that's Mr. Ash. Yeah, that's right. Mr. Ash. Give me, give me one, a letter that sits with them. There are two that start with P. It's your cat.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Oh, yes. Two that start with P? Mm-hmm. Mm. Oh, gosh. Oh, my God. I can, Peter? Nope.
Starting point is 01:08:52 No. Paul? No. No. I'm just saying, I'm saying, like, people with precious. Oh. Princess lady, Diane, lumpy. Uh, Mr. Ash.
Starting point is 01:09:05 I can so picture it. Mm-hmm. Piny. No. I'm just making it. I'm trying to think of another P one. We have a hint. I have a hint.
Starting point is 01:09:17 You also name your children this. What? You name your children this. Like, it's a kid name? Yeah, it's like Angela Martin named her kid after. Philip! Yes! You have a cat named Philip?
Starting point is 01:09:33 I didn't realize that. Oh, because you named after your cat. That's right. Because it was named after my grandfather. But it was named after Angel's cat. Yes, because you're like the same-up for my girlfriend. It's named after my cat. It's after my cat.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Oh, my God. That's tricky. Okay, what's our score? What's our tally? Our score is, Jenna, you still only had two points. What? I said garbage. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:10:00 I'll give you one. No, fine. It was embarrassing. Okay, fine, you have three points. Angela, you have seven points. Billy, you have ten points. Well, Billy, thank you so much for coming in and chatting with us. This was an absolute delight.
Starting point is 01:10:22 We could talk to you all day. We do. Thank you. We just love you so much. We're so happy to have spent this time with you. I will come back whenever you want me. Yay! Good guys.
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