Office Ladies - A Look Back on Double Date

Episode Date: September 20, 2023

This week we’re taking a look back on “Double Date”. To celebrate Helene’s birthday, Michael treats Jim, Pam and Helene to lunch, and of course, it ends up being a very cringey disaster. Meanwhile Dwight and Andy struggle to outdo each other in nice favors. Angela reads from her personal journal about her first New York bagel experience, Jenna shares a story about joining what she thought was an international Spice Girls group and of course, the ladies break down Pam hitting Michael. ‘Cuz just like this episode, the power comes from the back foot. So put your hands in your pockets and enjoy! Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestionFollow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPodCheck out Office Ladies Merch at Podswag: https://www.podswag.com/collections/office-ladies

I'm Jennifer Fisher and I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on the office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate office rewatch podcast just for you. Each week we will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scene stories that only two people who were there can tell you. We're the office ladies. Hi! Alright, we are sitting across from each other. Off's ladies. Hi! Hi! Hi! Hi! Hi!

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Hi! Hi! Hi! Hi! Hi! Hi! Hi! Hi! Hi! bike lady. Aw. Today, we're talking about double date. It is season six, episode nine. It's written by Charlie Grandy, who is the writer famous for boom roasted and directed by Seth Gordon. Here's your summary.

Jim, Pam, Michael, and Pam's mom, Helene, all go out to lunch to celebrate Helene's birthday. This is the double date of double date. And it all goes well until Michael spirals out about Helene's real age and then he breaks up with her at her birthday lunch. Meanwhile Dwight does nice things for everyone in the office in an attempt to get each of them to owe him a favor, then he's going to cash in his favors to get Jim fired. But unfortunately for Dwight, Andy is also very good at favors. Andy will not owe you anything.

I love it when he's like, you send me a wedding invitation? I respond. Yes, invite me to wedding invitation? I respond. Yes, invite me to your birthday boom, accepted. Yes, yeah. I would like that. It's a good quality. I mean, you know, you probably get a handwritten

thank you card from Andy. You probably do. All right, let's get into FastFacts. FastFact number one is all about our director, Seth Gordon. You know, we said last week, we're gonna get in to some of these like heavy hitter directors and Seth is another one. Yeah. I loved Seth because he directed one of my favorite movies of all time, the documentary, King of Kong, a fist full of quarters. It's so flipping good. It's so good and we rewatched it as a family.

Did you? With the kids, if you do not know this documentary, you need to watch it immediately. It is about the world of competitive arcade gaming. Specifically, it follows this just gentle-hearted sweet guy named Steve Weebie in his attempt to beat the Donkey Kong high-score, which was held for like 20 years by this guy Billy Mitchell. Mm-hmm. Billy Mitchell is like the ultimate documentary villain. The story of these two guys battling it out

to have the high score on Donkey Kong. I couldn't love it more. When he would go on his garage in practice, yes. And his wife would like check in. I know. Oh my gosh, you guys, it is such a wonderful story. You can find it on Prime Video and Apple TV. We watched on Prime, we had to buy it.

I'm so glad we did. So Seth Gordon, he did everything on this movie, he directed it, he was the cinematographer, he edited it. And then he came and did our show. So we got another documentary and film director. I looked through my digital clutter lady, and I actually emailed a friend of mine saying how excited I was to have Seth on set

and that we were all really excited. And then I also said, and I have a day off, because of the double date story. A double date story. And guess what I did with my day off? What? I did an episode of Yo Gabba Gabba. Oh, I remember that, Anne.

Yeah, because my daughter loved the show, and I went to the set, I got to play the school teacher. I had to sing about Show and Tell. Here it is. Time for Show and Tell. Time for Show and Tell. Show is what you can do. Oh my gosh, well done, Angela. Time for Show and Tell, time for Show and Tell, show us what you can do!

Oh my gosh, well done, Angela! Time for Show and Tell! I had to sing and dance. You know these are things I do not do, but it's what you do for your kids. It's well so excited. They gave me this great picture of her and I on set with all of the characters and I have it in my office. It's so cute. And everyone there was so nice. They were so much fun. It was one of the most fun days of work I've ever had. Every day on Yogyabagabba was a theme day. And that day was birthday day.

And you would come dressed as whatever your interpretation of that was. And this one gal came dressed as a cake, like fully a cake, like a hat and a skirt, but she was a tiered cake. You would wear that. You love a birthday. I do love a birthday.

Should we start having theme days on our tape days here at Office Ladies? We've got a lot of pressure. It feels like a lot of pressure. Okay, we won't do it. Maybe once. We'll do one theme day. We'll do one. Sam, you have to do it. Maybe once. We'll do one theme day. We'll do one.

Sam, you have to participate. Everyone participates. I would love to. Okay. Theme day coming up. Well, before we move to FastFact number two, let me also add that Seth Gordon has gone on to direct huge movies,

four Christmas's, horrible bosses, identity theft and Baywatch. He's also directed a ton of television. I loved working with him. I loved him. So now, FastFact number two is a location breakdown. Is it of the restaurant? Yes. I mean, so much of this episode takes place at this restaurant, Paparazos, not a real restaurant. We made it up. We filmed it in Los Angeles at this place called Beastro Garden in Studio City. I was going to say, wait, I'm serving past that.

Yeah, I've eaten there. It's at the corner of Coldwater, in Ventura. Oh, yeah, with the big awning and the steps. Yes. Yes. It's now closed, but it was a really great restaurant. When I reached out to our writer on this episode, Charlie Grandy, to ask him about some of his memories that we might be able to share, he reminded me that there was a giant water main break on Coldwater Canyon Road that exploded and flooded

the whole area. Yes, I remember that. And that was like the day before we were supposed to shoot in this area. I used to live off this road of Coldwater Canyon. There was one way in and one way out of my neighborhood and it was this road where this water main broke. Randy Courtree confirmed that this happened and it caused a huge problem with this intersection. There were hundreds of thousands of gallons of water. It was about four feet deep. There was all this traffic. it took like three days to clean it up, some

guy had to be rescued from his car. All the businesses along that street flooded, and had to be closed, and some of them had to be renovated, and some didn't even come back, because it was too much damage. And you know what I remember? I remember right on cold water, a few days after the flood, there was a sinkhole. Yes, and they had a giant hole in the ground. Lady, I found a picture of it. This was in the LA Times. Yes, it was crazy. And then they had to fix the sinkhole by laying these big metal plate things on the ground.

And when you drove over, it was like, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good car passes. The traffic was a son of a bull. It was. Amazingly enough, the bistro where we were shooting did not flood, and they found a way that we could access it from this back road, and we still shot that day. Wow. Yeah. All right, fast-back number three, Angela. Mm-hmm. The other memory that Charlie Granty shared was that he got a blackberry during this episode. He finally upgraded his flip phone, but he said he did not know how to set it up. So he asked John to help him to set up his blackberry on set because John was the voice of Blackberry. Oh yeah, John had one. He had to know how to use it because he was like part of a campaign.

Yeah, I found an audio clip. Oh. What's this? The new Blackberry? You've seen Blackberries before, it's no big deal. Maybe one quick peek. Just to see what all the fuss is about. Whoa.

Mm-hmm. one quick peak. Just to see what all the fuss is about. Whoa. Mm hmm. So this was when Blackberry was getting away from the little buttons, and they were just like going to become a touch screen Blackberry. So that's why he's like, whoa, he has a really good voice for that. He's done tons of voiceovers. I know. So anyway, I loved that Charlie had a memory that during different setups, he'd be like getting John to set up his new Blackberry forum. It's so funny because, you know, like when you're talking to someone and they all of a sudden tell you something

and all of these memories flood back. Yeah. So that's now happened twice today. First of all, the sinkhole. I remember the sinkhole. Secondly, I remember getting my Blackberry and having rain help me. Yeah. Rain got so frustrated with me because he was like, Angela, you're not listening.

Yeah, because rain was the first one to get one. Yeah, but I just remember rain help me set up my blackberry. Well, that's all I got for fast facts. Well, I loved your fast facts. They took me down memory lane, and this is such a fun episode. I got for Fast Facts. Well, I loved your Fast Facts. They took me down memory lane, and this is such a fun episode. I was so delighted by it, I can't wait for us to just get right into it. I had forgotten about so much of it, so I loved it too.

Well, how about this? Let's go to break, because when we come back, lady, I brought in one of my journals. Oh! Oh! This day is awesome. Things are gonna get spussy! We are back! Dwight is walking around with, I want you to know, what I think was a very nice basket. I know this is a basket. He's got all of these beautiful bagels from Agen H. Bagel in New York, and he has started his favorite campaign. Yeah, I'll have you know, Agen H. Bagels is a real

place in New York. It's very famous for having the best bagels. And this is also not the first time that H&H Biggles has been featured on a television show. What was the other show? Seinfeld. Oh, yeah. And I have an audio clip. Oh my gosh.

Great news. Yeah, the strike's been settled. I'm going back to work. What's the other guy, H&H bagels? That's where I worked. You worked? Bagels? Yeah, look, see.

It's still on my business card. We've been on strike for 12 years. I've never seen those guys picketing out there, but haven't seen him in a long time. Well, H&H would let us use their bathroom while we were picketing. Put a crimp in our solidarity. You're demands. Yeah, 5.35 an hour, and that's what they're paying now. I believe that's the new minimum wage.

And now you know who to thank for that. All right, I gotta go. Why didn't you ever mention this? Well, gee, I didn't want you to know I was out of work. It's embarrassing. So this is the storyline that suddenly you find out that Kramer had a job, that he's been on strike, and it was age and age bagels, and he goes back to the bagel place, and he gets his job back. But he doesn't know, like, he gets there, and I ended up watching the episode.

I can't tell. And he gets there, and he up watching the episode. I can't tell. And he gets there and he's like, Raisin bagel. We're putting raisins in them. And you're like, yeah, I mean, the raisin bagel. He's like, all right, I can do it. It was very funny. But I'll have you know that the bagels that Dwight

is passing out were not actually H&H bagels from New York. They were from a place called Western Bagel Invinize. Western Bagel's very good too. I've been there. I have a little something to share about H&H. What is it? Why are you reaching in a bag? I'm reaching for my journal.

What? Get ready. Okay, the first bagel I ever had was an H&H bagel and it was when I was interning on late night with Conan O'Brien. Stop it right now. This journal, it's a flower journal. It has many posted notes sticking out of it.

Pages are falling out, and there is a late night with Conan O'Brien sticker. I got the sticker when I got the internship, and I put it on my journal. I mean, I'm taking a picture of you, obviously. All right, before we turn to the page where I talk about my first bagel experience, I interned on Conan O'Brien.

Years later, over a decade later, I was asked to be a guest. It was a full circle life moment because I went from the person who was getting everyone's coffee to actually being a guest. And I brought my journal when I was a guest and I read this on late night with Conan. Ready? Yes. I cannot wait. Turning to the page. Here we go. Tomorrow night is Conan's first year anniversary party at the Museum of Modern Art. Lots of important people, stars,

NBC folks, and the interns get to go. Wow! Details later! What am I? Details later to myself? This is my journal. I go on to say. And there are serious food perks to interning here. I get a free meal with the writers, and I had my first bagel. It's basically bread that looks like a donut. No, you did not just describe what a bagel is in your journal to myself. Just in case you forget later. Just in case someone finds this journal someday, and they're curious curious what is a bagel and they're curious what's going to happen at Conan's party details later. Yeah. Oh yeah. Keep going please. No that's it. Okay. No please.

Okay. Please. Let's see. Did you ever write the details later? I did. I don't know if I can read them. Okay. This is what the journal becomes just for you. Yeah. Okay. In a nutshell, Conan's party. The interns had to work the front door. So you have to go.

But I had to work. We had a list of names of people who could come in. After working the party, we got to come inside at the end and we got to have drinks. We all got tuted. Oh my gosh. Wait, can you go back and read your description of what a bagel is one more time? I just want to hear it again.

Yes. And there's some serious food perks to interning here. I get a free meal with the writers. And I had my first bagel. It's basically bread that looks like a donut. Okay. I'm sorry, you guys got what? At the party, what did you guys get? Tooted.

What time period does this take place? You guys, this is 1994. I got tooted. I got tooted on free drinks after work in the door all night. I'm sorry, I need a mug that has a picture of a bagel. And underneath it says, it basically brash like a donut. I'm like, there you guys go. My first age in age bagel.

And now you know how lame my was in my 20s. Your journal reads like how they write Michael Scott's journal. It's amazing. It's amazing. Oh my gosh. Please bring it back again to some other time. Please just keep reading it. Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. Okay. All right. All right, back to the episode. I'm sorry, okay. Okay, back to the episode. You know when Dwight went in to offer Michael the bagels? Yes. And Michael claims he isn't hungry

because he had two fish stick sandwiches, which were an aphrodisiac. Right, but his lady friend declined. Yes. Dwight says something like, you're thinking of deer penis. I was thinking of oysters. There are many things that are aphrodisiacs. Oh, no.

I sense a deep dive. But I was most curious. No, you did not type dear penis. I did type is dear penis and aphrodisiac. Oh Lord Jesus. It is. What? It's real.

Come on. Yeah, it goes all the way back to Hippocrates. Recommended dear penis as a solution to, quote, resolving sexual difficulties. But that's not all. According to Wikipedia, in traditional Chinese medicine, deer penis is thought to have like other therapeutic properties.

There's something called deer penis wine. No. Yep, no. Yep, you can get it for about $12 a glass. Get away from me with your deer penis wine. It supposedly can help heal athletic injuries. Well, I'm not athletic, so. But if you don't want deer penis wine,

you could have three penis wine. What? Three penises. Who's three penises? A seal penis. Stop it. A deer penis and a dog penis. Come on!

Who is making wine out of a bunch of penises? I don't know, but you can get it, and since I was in studio to know. No, no, no, I'm not drinking it. I'm not drinking it. I'm not drinking it. You did not bring dear penis wine. No. I know, I didn't. I didn't.

Oh my God. Oh my God. I didn't. I was just kidding. Oh my God. But I did find a website called Aal Sessions, and this person did drink three penis wine, and I thought I'd read you the description.

Okay, here's what they said. Quote. It's something along the lines of an expired port with a pungent vinegar taste and some prune juice. And if you thought you'd get away with not tasting the three different penis profiles you thought wrong. Also, it does not work in cocktails because it really just overpowers any possible combinations. You think the multiple penises overpower the other flavors? The writer said no one should consume more than just a sip of this concoction. No one should consume more than just a sip of this concoction. If you truly are interested in tasting the weirdest of the weird, three penis wine can generally be found in select Chinese grocers? It is sold on the shelves as it is classified as more of a natural herbal drink than alcohol,

but honestly, don't drink this. It's not good, but that should be fairly obvious already. I don't even know what to say. I am just thinking about these poor animals. How are they getting the penises? I can't. I didn't want to know, but what they do is they like soak the penises in something.

There's also something called baby mouse wine. It's like a jar of baby mice and then it ferments and then you drink it. For what? I don't know, but you know, when you're googling three penis wine, all these weird wines come up. Just weird drinks, you know? There's articles about the weirdest drinks. I know, okay, note to self, do not Google

about penis wine. Well, a sentence I never thought I would say out loud. Well, just like we weren't the first show to feature H&H bagels, we aren't the first show to mention deer penis. Three penis wine was also a plotline of an episode of the league where they drink it. Well, I don't know what you thought you were going to hear today on office ladies. A bagel looks like a donut. There's penis wine. Um, a bagel looks like a donut. There's penis wine.

I, anything can happen, guys, anything. I don't have much else for the rest of the episodes. So the scale is tipped to hear at the top of the show just with the cold open. I have two more things about this cold open. Oh my gosh, we're not done with the cold open. We're not. At 19 seconds, I got a coffee mug callback. What's that? I love a coffee mug callback.

Andy has his mug from Kelly's America's Got Talent viewing party sitting on his desk. Also, this was not the cold open in the shooting draft. Really? Yeah, there was a whole different cold open. Here's what it said. Cold open interior Michael's what it said. Cold open interior Michael's office. Michael sits at his desk,

flipping through a small stack of pictures. He sees Jim walking by. Jim, Jim, you have to see this, regarding the photo. Do you know who that is? Jim, no, Michael, come on, how can you not tell? The T-shirt, the jeans, Jim? Is it you, Michael? I'm flattered, but it's Johnny Depp. Jim, really? Where did you take these?

Michael, my condo complex. Jim, of course, and what was he doing there? Michael, keep this on the download, but he was moving in. Jim, right, because I read in people that Johnny Depp was looking for a two bedroom and Scranton. Michael, I'm totally flipping. You know my idea for a fourth Pirates movie, right? So this goes on and on. Michael is convinced that Johnny Depp has moved in and is his neighbor.

And as it turns out, when he goes to see Johnny Depp's mailbox, it says, M.Schulman. So it's not Johnny Depp. I'm surprised Michael doesn't think that's an alias. It is a really funny scene and we shot it and it also includes Michael's impression of Jack Sparrow. That exists somewhere. You know, this is crazy. This is unlocking a memory for me when we read that at the table read. We all thought that was so funny. Yeah. Amazing.

Are we closing out the cold open? That's it. We're done with the cold open. All right. Let's move in to the episode. Dwight goes up to Pam's desk and offers her a bagel. She doesn't want one because she's having an early lunch. This is when we find out the information that she's going on this double date for her mom's birthday.

We had a fan question from Genevieve B and Omaha, Nebraska. Why is Pam wearing such neutral, earthy colors in this episode? Normally, she would be wearing at least a little pop of color, but in this episode, she looks like she's dressing dare I say, like Dwight. What? I see what she's saying. The color palette is very truity,

but I also noticed that everything about it was, there was no color. I think Pam is in mourning. I think she is going on this double date. And she like, when she looked in her closet, this is what spoke to her. I have noticed since Pam has become a salesman that her whole outfit has become more muted. There's less pop of color. Yeah. I've noticed that too. We're going to get it back. Okay. Ryan is continuing to evolve. Who is Ryan? He's the hat-wearing glasses guy.

Now he's a photographer. He's showing his portfolio to Aaron. It's a black and white series that he calls exposure in the workplace. I wrote down the images I saw. Do tell. One looks like some drains on the side of the building. Mm-hmm. Another one is clearly the Dundermiffland parking lot. You can see the top of Meredith's van, the hedge and the sign. And then, of course, we have Kelly Newdy from the way stuck at her desk. We had a fan question from Cecilia P. in Minnesota who would like to know what is this photo book? How did we take the photo of Mindy? I want to know everything. Let's hear it.

Well, Randy Cordray told us that all of the photos were shot by our production designer Michael Gallenberg. He would do that for the show. For example, you mentioned that coffee mug, Michael took the pictures of all the cast members that then Phil Shay put on the coffee mugs. He's actually a very talented real-life still photographer. So he did all of these photos. And the shoot with Mindy was done with her wearing like a flesh-colored bandeau.

Like a tube top. Yes, because they knew that it would be pixelated later in post. So that's how we did it. You know, I'm gonna bring out this story. I wasn't planning on it, but this episode feels like, I don't know, it feels like it would be on theme. I wrote about this in my book, The Actor's Life, A Survival Guide. The scene with Ryan showing Aaron the pictures of like Kelly Nude. Uh-huh. Have I ever told you the story of how I almost joined like an international spice girls singing group that was actually a front for a call girl service? What?

Yeah. You thought you were auditioning to be in a band? Yeah. As singing group. That's how they hoodwinked the girls? Yeah. Ah! Yeah. I's how they hoodwinked the girls. Yeah. Yeah, I've also told this story on Conan. Oh my gosh. So I moved to LA and you know, you're just looking for any gig you can get. Sure. My friend was a really talented singer and she saw listing in the newspaper the free newspaper.

Okay, red flag number one. Correct. Four, singing auditions for a new international spice girls type singing band in this guy's condo. Red flag number two. Yeah, audition in a condo, red flag two. She asked if I would go with her. I said, sure, I'll go with you. So I stood in line with her big group of people, went in, she sang,

and the guys like, do you sing to me? And I'm like, not really. No, he's like, well, just sing something. He's like, well, just sing something. So I sang Rocky Top. What? You know this song Rocky Top? Like good, oh, Rocky Top. Rocky Top, Tennessee. That's what Rocky Top, Tennessee. That's what came to my mind.

That's what came to my mind. So I sang Rocky Top. Guess what, lady? You got the part, you're in the band. You're in the band. I got it. With your Rocky Top song, I'm the American Girl.

Red flag number three. I get a call, it's me. Imagine my friend, my friend who's like a professional level singer. Yeah, she didn't get the gig. I got it. I'm gonna be the American Girl. This guy gives me a tape. I'm supposed to listen to it. I'm supposed to learn my song. It was a country song about a truck stop.

I practiced it and practiced it and practiced it. And I was like, when do I meet the other girls in the group? He's like, soon, soon. Red flag. And then he calls me and he's like, listen, we have a gig coming up. I'm like, we have a gig coming up. I've never met the other girls in the group. How are we gonna do our dance moves? How are we gonna harmonize?

What are our outfits? And he's like, come by the condo. Red flag. And you know, let me just see how your song is doing. You'll just do your song. You'll do it just a solo. Oh my gosh, okay. Meanwhile, by the way, I've basically told everyone back in Missouri, buckle in. I'm about to be a big star. A huge pop star. So just I don't know if I'm going to be able to come home for thanks. Give me a chance.

I'm a sharn rocky top. I am now going to be a pop star. I had a whole new country name star for myself, Ginny Lee. My name was going to be Ginny Lee. Oh my god. You are giving me sh** about my journal, about like getting tooted at a party. You're Jenny Lee singing Rocky Top.

I am, so I go to the guys condo, and I've got my whole bit. I just wanna say that when I got there, there were girls walking around in lingerie. You guys, none of this is penetrating the stars in my eyes. None of this is like, I'm taking in none of this information. So I sing the song so earnestly.

My truck stops on, gosh, I wish I still had the tape. Sing it and I'm like, how do you think? You're saying your country in Western song about a truck stop? Yeah, okay. I'm like, do you think I'm ready? He's like, I do, I do. Then he says to me, you know what you need

are some lingerie? Well, I guess I skipped the part where he offered to take my photo. Mm. He had mentioned that my headshots, Well, I guess I skipped the part where he offered to take my photo. He had mentioned that my headshots, they weren't very dazzling and he said that he takes headshots and he offered to take some new headshots for me. And I said, I can't afford that. He said, it's fine, you can pay me back later.

And then he said, while we're doing it, why don't we take some of you in like a bikini or maybe nude? Because I'd like to represent you as an actress as well. And what if you go in on a part that requires nudity? You know, you don't wanna have to get nude in the room. It'd be better to just hand them a photo. Which never happens. Red flag.

Red flag. But you know what my answer was? What? I was like, you know what? I'm not gonna wanna do parts with nudity so I won't need those photos. Again, why am I impenetrable? You're just sweet and innocent.

And this person is a monster. Okay, so what happened after you danced and sang your heart out about the truck stop? I said, am I ready? Do you think I should do the show on Friday? I'm so nervous! And he goes, I think you should. He goes, now here's the thing, I also want you to know

it's gonna be for a group of international businessmen. Moga. It's a private show. And afterwards, you know, if you wanna offer the gentleman some companionship, it can be quite lucrative. Here we go. This is when suddenly everything comes into focus for me.

Suddenly I'm very aware of the people in lingerie. I'm very aware of the fact that I've never rehearsed with any of the other girls that offered to take nude photographs. The fact that my friend, who's an actual talented singer, didn't get the gig, I'm like, oh my God! This is a call girl ring! I'm not gonna be a famous pop star! And I left. I changed my phone numbers. I never spoke to him again. What did you tell everyone back in Missouri?

The truth. You did. I just did. I mean, what am I going to do? I told my parents. I get where they like get on a plane home. How did my parents not fly out and bring me home? I don't know. That was a very long tangent, but it sprung to mind when Ryan was like, I could take photos of you. Creeper. Creeper. So guys, if you're an aspiring actor and you want to come to Los Angeles or New York, maybe by my book, the actor's life a survival guide where I lay out a lot of things that you shouldn't Experience. While this photo display is happening, Pam's mom walks in. Yes, and we're gonna have a little bit of Angela's ass coming up. Oh, yeah. Pam, aren't you going to introduce us to Michael's girlfriend? Angela Martin, enjoy saying that so much. I know.

How about the story about the necklace that Michael slipped onto Helene's neck this morning? While she was sleeping, Kelly's like it's beautiful. No, it's not. I loved that. I'm gonna break down all the gifts that Helene got in a little bit. Oh, so remember the necklace. We got a piece of mail from Genevieve B

in Omaha, Nebraska. Who said this? I found this fascinating. I worked as a manager for Clare's in the late Aught's early 2010s, and I am 90% sure that Helene's necklace was from the Icing's Dressy Special Occasion collection. Clare's boutique in the mall? Yeah, that's where I got my ears pierced.

Me too. Really? Yeah. Oh my gosh. It's still where you get my ears pierced. Me too. Really? Yeah. Oh my gosh. It's still where you get your ears pierced. Yeah. It's what they're known for. Genevieve goes on to say,

if so, the piece in question appears to be a Kubrick's Arconian necklace. And in 2009, 2010-ish, they were marked down to $5. Okay. I'm not sure where we got this necklace, but I think this is a good guess. I think it's a great catch.

Well, Pam's gonna try to get out of going to lunch by having Aaron transfer a fakey phone call. This was very funny to me, along with Creed's talking head. I thought all of it was really funny. I also loved John's performances, Jim, where he's like, nope, hardly ever. He like hangs up.

Also he doesn't say anything. Like when he's like, I'll handle it. He takes the phone and he goes, okay, great. Yeah. It's there. They found it. And then Creed's worried. He's like, that paper was never supposed to arrive.

What is Creed running on the side? I don't know. Is Creed the reason they're going bankrupt? I think so. Probably. Pam doesn't get out of it. She's got to go to this birthday, double date. The car ride was so cringey.

But guess what? The car ride home's going to be even worse. Pam's mom calls her Pammy. Did you notice? I did notice and it's like Colleen and Michael are like talking to Pam about making good choices and being a good salesperson and they're being so parental. And you can just see like Pam is like,

oh my God, what is happening? So next we're gonna go into the kitchen and Dwight is continuing his favors for the office. He's cleaning out the freezer. Oh, I have some catches here. Oh, tell. Four minutes, 42 seconds. Did you guys see what all Dwight had taken out of the freezer and put on the counter? I did. I paused it. Took a screen grab. Let's see if we clocked the same stuff. Seven tubs of ice cream.

Seven tubs of ice cream, all of which still have the plastic thing on them. Like none of them have been opened. Yeah. Six frozen microwave dinners. Mm-hmm. Some mixed veggies. Mm-hmm.

A whole thing of butter. A bag of, what is that? Six small baguettes. Yes. And then two enormous bags of what looks like to be raw chicken sitting on top of the microwave, which will get called back later. So much raw chicken. We had a fan question from Hepsy, from Kornavaka, Mexico. I noticed white cleaning the fridge in this scene and I'm wondering if you guys ever used the fridge or freezer or cabinets to actually store your real snacks. We did not. It was just props. We never ate any of that. We never kept our food in there. There was well, what? Sometimes Mindy would eat prop food. We know. Mindy and Ed were notorious for eating prop food.

But we kept all of our snacks in our desk drawer. Yes, my perishable snacks, we kept in the fridge that was backstage. Yeah. But I had like a bag of potato chips and a drawer. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I had a gum.

Yeah. But I would never, I would not trust eating something I found in that fridge. Because maybe it was from like, who knows when? Oh, yeah. Unless it was a new item made for that episode, the other stuff in there just sort of stayed. I remember one time, a few of us,

I don't know why ate some of those cheese balls. Oh yeah, I was there, I was part of that. It was like a dare near the end. And all of a sudden I remember feel-shaving like guys, guys, we spray those with the stuff so they don't go bad. We're like, ugh. Yeah, with like a lacquer. You know, we're fine. We're here.

Well, while Dwight's cleaning out the freezer, Andy comes in to give him his newly polished briefcase because he's returning the favor of the bagels. And this leads to this favor competition, basically, as they're walking back to their desks. It's really funny. These two guys cracked me up. Me too. You know, at five minutes, 36 seconds, Dwight says,

if you clench your buttocks together while walking, you can really take the pressure off your knees. Little tip there, just a little tip. Well, I looked it up. Does it work? I was gonna try it. Well, I read an article called Getting to the Bottom of Knee Pain in Women.

Oh, okay. Knee pain in women caused by their but's question mark, the article asks, it says, if you're experiencing knee pain and you go to a physical therapist, they might ask you, are you using your butt? If the pain is not from like an obvious injury, you know, this physical therapist says I always start with the glutes. I guess a lot of times knee pain can be caused by either tight weak hips or weak glutes because the glutes are like your stabilizer.

And so they will often want you to increase your glutes. But the question here is if you're supposed to clench your buttocks or not. When you walk. And so while yes, weak glutes could be the root of your knee problem, I read a different article called to clench or not to clench your butt. That is the question by Brooke Thomas. She says, do not permaclench your butt, that is the question by Brooke Thomas. She says, do not permaclench your butt. Don't permaclench it.

What's a permaclench? That's, I think, where you're just clenching for no reason. Why would you clench for no reason? To take the pressure off your knees. Oh! She said it can lead to other problems. It can lead to wear and tear on your lumbar discs. You can get too tight of a pelvic floor.

I guess that's bad. Instead of clenching, just do good glute workouts to build up the whole muscle. Okay. Okay. I know that we have not gotten very far into this episode. Should we take a break though? And then we'll come back and we'll break down the rest. Yeah, because when we come back, the Scott family

is checking in at the restaurant. Yes. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Scott family table is ready. But which one is it? I mean, there's just a bunch of boring tables. Yeah. Oh wait, one has a ton of balloons.

And um, nice of the restaurant to let them hang a banner in their potted plants. I know. It is so sweet. Michael has completely decorated this table for Helene's birthday. Pam notices, I think this is the first moment where she's kind of softening to this. Also because Helene is so delighted. She's so happy. They start the birthday lunch, sort of talking about how like, oh, they're at this great Italian restaurant. Michael's like, you know, I'd love to go to Italy. Helene's like, oh, you can have all my travel books. I, you know, I can't do those big trips anymore.

Yeah, the flights are too long. Yeah, not interested. And he's like, great, I guess I'll take your books. And then, Pam and her mom have this like fun little banter. Pam's like, so mom, which birthday are we celebrating this year? Jenna, I used to do this with my mom. What do you mean? I would be like, okay, mom, what birthday is it?

And for years, my mom said 32. Really? 32. That is so funny. So, Haleen says, I'm sticking with 49. Pam says 49 again. That's nine years in a row. Michael's like, aha, that's funny, but you can see him trying to do the math.

But then he's going to need to take pencil to paper. And still get it wrong. Right. Michael realizes that Helene is 58. And you can tell this hits him. Pretty hard. We had a fan catch though from Alison H and Louisville Kentucky, and many others, by the way. Who said, I think there's a math error.

Helene says she's 49. Pam says it's the ninth year in a row, but if she first celebrated her 49th birthday on her 49th birthday, that counts as one of the nine. So you would actually add 49 plus eight additional birthdays, which means Celine is really turning 57. Nice catch.

Yeah. So when I was trading messages with Charlie Grandy about this episode, he said that what he remembers most about working with Seth Gordon was the fact that me, John, Steve,, we're going to be locked at this same table for like four big scenes in a row. And it became this big question, how are we going to visually differentiate these scenes? How are we going to make them feel alive? Right. And Charlie said, if you rewatch it, you can really see what a great job he did.

He added multiple angles, he keeps flipping sides to keep it interesting. And by mostly framing out the other tables, he does a great job of shrinking what was a really big space. And quote, imprisoning you in Michael's awkwardness. Oh, that's so artsy. I know. And it's really true. I started rewatching these scenes. And we only use two cameras, but in each of the scenes, they set them up a little differently. So you didn't feel like you were coming back to the same table. And as the scenes go on, the camera gets closer and closer and closer. So you really are like going into Michael's little mind. It's cool.

It's really cool. Well, we're going to go from this talk of being 49, nine years in a row, but actually being 58 with more sexy talk. What name should she be called, Nana or Grandma? Michael's really feeling it now. He is. I noticed something at nine minutes and six seconds in the scene. What? Do you notice how Steve eats his food as Michael Scott? It's exactly how he ate in dinner party. Well, he kind of scrapes the fork with his teeth. Yes, he eats tiny amounts of food off the tip of the fork with his very front teeth. He doesn't put the fork all the way in his mouth.

He like bites it off the tip of the fork. It's very interesting. He does not eat this way in real life. I've dined with him many times. This is clearly a Michael Scott eating choice. It's either a Michael Scott eating choice or it's Steve the actor not wanting to eat the prop food and making the best of it. Because I would do something similar. I would just put the tiniest amount like on the end of the fork or spoon. So I didn't have to eat too much of it. Well, now I guess I'd have to watch Steve's other films

and see if he's eating in any of them and see if this is just his actor way of eating or if it was a character choice, I'll investigate. Investigate, because with prop food, when you start out, it's usually really fresh and warm and they've made it ready for you to eat, but as each take goes, it gets colder and colder and a little bit more wilty depending what you're eating and I just found early on

The smaller bites are better true It's also lunchtime back at Dunderclund and oh my gosh Andy has set up a whole taco buffet in the conference room Yes, but Dwight is going to volunteer to serve everyone. Yes. Did you notice at nine minutes, 26 seconds when Angela Martin enters? Yes. Her face she makes and she does a 180 out of the room. Well, because she's vegetarian.

So I went to the script because I was like, what did it say in the script about this moment? In the script, it just says Angela Martin enters the room and immediately walks back out. Oh, so the room and immediately walks back out. Oh! So the face I made was just me, like probably playing around in the moment. I have a question. Did you guys actually eat those tacos that day? They looked good. We did not just because it had to sit there for a bit. Oh. But we wanted to when they first brought them out, we're like, woohoo tacos and like, like, no, no, no, guys, there's also a Kevin talking head and little moment that got

deleted probably for time. I loved it. Kevin is so excited that Dwight is going to serve the tacos. And he has this talking head. This is great. I love tacos. But whenever I try to make one, I get too excited and I crush it. And! And so then it cuts back to the scene and Dwight's making his taco. Dwight hands it to Kevin and Kevin so excited he crushes it in his hand. Oh! Kevin! Well, after these guys compete to see who's going to serve the tacos, now they're going to compete to see who's going to clean them up. It doesn't stop.

It doesn't stop. Do you know what I'd like to break down all the gifts that Michael got, Haleen. Oh, and really show how all-out he went for her until he broke up with her. He went all-out. He got hurt, the necklace, and then also the lunch reservation, right?

Where he decorated the table, I counted eight balloons, a birthday banner, and also a really beautiful flower arrangement that none of the other tables had. Yes. I assume she can take that with her. Yes. As well as a scrapbook of their courtship, the wrapping paper says love in several different languages. Here are a few things that were in the scrapbook. Per the shooting draft, some made it in the episode, some did not. Oh! The penny that Haleen threw into the wishing well at the mall. Which doesn't exist. Right. The fountain that doesn't exist.

Also, a ticket stub to a movie they went to together, Love Happens. Oh! I looked up Love Happens. It was a movie that was out in 2009, starring Jennifer Amiston and Aaron Eckhart, as well as the poem that Michael wrote slash plagiarized from Shell Silverstein. Hmm, here was the poem. I cannot go to school today, said little Peggy Ann McKay. I have the measles and the mumps, a gash, a rash,

and purple bumps. My teachers really mean happy birthday. I love you, Halene. I mean, it's beautiful. It might be in my journal. We had a fan question about this scrapbook from Carla B. in Gardina, California. The cover page of the scrapbook at the very bottom where it says love copyright Michael. bottom where it says, love, copyright, Michael. We also see the letters,

X, X, L, R. Any idea what those letters stand for? Do you know, Ange? I do. What is it? It's in the shooting draft. Oh, tell us, because I thought they were Roman numerals,

but when I looked it up, there's no R in Roman numerals. Yes. So, Haleen reads that out loud, kind of like curious and Michael goes, those are Roman numerals I made. So, Haleen reads that out loud, kind of like curious and Michael goes, those are Roman numerals I made them up. Oh my gosh! I did not know that you knew the answer to that question

when I asked it. Yeah, it's in the shooting draft. Oh, the shooting draft it unlocks so many mysteries. So many mysteries. I have a few other things to share from the shooting draft as well. Did you notice that Jim and Pam left under Mifflin with a box, a gift box wrapped in green wrapping paper? Jim is carrying it. Oh, yes,

yes. Yes. And they bring it in to the restaurant. It's their gift to Helene. Oh, do you know what they got? Helene. What? And the shooting draft, it says, Helene is holding a sweater that Jim and Pam gave her. Michael. What a nice gift. Oh, yes, a cozy sweater on his 58-year-old girlfriend. It's not sexy. It's not sexy to him. I mean, Michael is really spiraling. So much so that he's going to go hide. Pam has to go find him.

He's like hiding in the bar. Yeah, she's like, come on, weirdo. It's time for cake. This scene was amazing start to finish. The fact that it starts off with Michael saying, finish your cake, Halene. I want you to enjoy that cake because I have something terrible I need to tell you.

Yeah, how did you get through that without laughing? First of all, the thing that made us laugh the most was the waitress interrupting us to pour the water. That was so brilliant. I thought that was brilliant. It is scripted exactly in the shooting draft the way you guys shot it. Yeah. Because this is what you really do.

You have these conversations and sometimes someone walks up to your table and you have to stop mid-sentence. Yes, I do it all the time. All the time. What is that like from the waiter's point of view? I mean, you know I walked in a restaurant. You know people like you walk up. Sometimes you hear stuff. Sometimes they don't stop. But this was hilarious. Michael is saying how he wants kids. And you, any gestures to Helene, unfortunately, have already completed that part of your journey down there. Pam's like Michael. Michael's like, Hey, it's not my decision. It's Mother Nature. And Mother has very strict rules about fur. Tilted. It was so difficult to get through. I would have completely lost it.

So Michael's clearly breaking up with Helene, and he uses Pam as the excuse. He's like, you know I've thought about it. This isn't fair to Pam. Pam's like, no, no, no, Michael. Jenna, there was a talking head that would have come here. It was in the shooting draft. It got deleted, and it really showed what Pam was feeling. I'm going to read it to you.

Okay. My mom used to call me every night to cry about the divorce. Then she started dating Michael and she stopped calling. And I thought it was because she knew how mad I was. But now I think it was because she stopped crying. And that's what I should want for her, right? Mmm. And so you would have had that talking head and then you would have cut back to the scene when Pam's like, you know what, no, Michael, it's, it's okay. It took me a while to come around to it, but I'm okay with it. I'm glad they cut that talking head. Because I think that makes you kind of really hate Michael for breaking up with her because I don't know. It's so, it's so pure, it's so sweet. Yeah.

You know, and it just really breaks your heart for Haleen. Too much, too much. Yes. Before we move on, I just want to say the cake was really good. Oh, I wondered about that. It brought back memories. Well, Michael's going to tell Haleen there is another woman and her name is Italy and skydiving and bungee jumping and Then Jenna Michael decides that he's gonna also try to comfort her in this moment

It's in the deleted scenes. We have to hear it. It's like You don't buy a madlib's book with everything already written in it. You're gonna find somebody so quickly with your killer bod and your wisdom. God! Ow! Somebody kicked. Did you guys get kicked? Nope. I kicked you to stop. Kicks Michael really hard.

It is so funny. And I think I almost see you start to break. I remember filming those now. It was really funny. Yeah. So Michael is like, what? What? And Jim just shut some down. And this leads us to the super cringy car right home. Yeah. Helene is wondering out loud, what is she going to do now? She's 58 and single. And Michael's like, how about hobbies? Jim's like, no. No.

This scene continued on. Helene says, why do I keep dating these losers? But she doesn't stop there. You have to hear it. What is it about me that makes me choose these loser guys? I don't know if I'd say you want to stay. I'm totally in the station. Do you know how long it's been since I've had an orgasm?

Years. She told me she doesn't like him. Oh my God! Is that so funny? I mean how awkward is that car ride for Pam? Oh my gosh. I mean, Pam has had to hear so much today. So much. Maybe she already knew. I mean, it sounds like they're close but I

don't know I think there's new information. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Well they get back to the office and first of all we see Andy trying to get something from a real tall shelf. He can't get it Dwight can you help me? Dwight's so excited! Here it is! Andy needs him! It's a favor! Guess what it is. Starbucks gift card. From everyone! Were you curious how Andy got the whole group to chip in for a gift card for Dwight? A little. I was, so I went to the shooting draft. Does it tell all? It tells all! And I'm going to share it with you. Dwight goes to the restroom. And when he does, Andy gets up and makes an announcement to the bullpen. He says, maybe you noticed Dwight has been trying real hard to do nice things for us. That's not his normal way.

And he's not having an easy time with it. And like the bullpen's like, who cares? Danley's like so, Meredith's like, what's your game? Andy's like, we need to give him a gift. And Cree's like, who cares? Stanley's like so, Meredith's like, what's your game? And he's like, we need to give him a gift. And Creed's like, what, like a present? Andy continues. He says, Dwight wakes up every day at 4 a.m. and kills the pig. That's his workout. He's not like us, but today he tried.

And you know, it wasn't too long ago. I had a temper. I was a real bastard. And do you know what got me out of it? Oscar comes in with some snark and says, mandatory anger management. We're calling back all this stuff. Yeah. And Andy goes, no. And he like wants to shout at Oscar so badly. And Ed is really funny in the scene. He goes, no, the kindness and gentle words of my anger management sponsor.

And his whole thing is, guys, my point is, maybe we can be that for Dwight, we can be that person. Wow. And Phyllis, coming in hard with the sass, says, look, we all do nice things. I bring in muffins at least once a week. And Stanley says, those are leftover book group muffins. Oh my gosh!

There's so much sass. Anyway, and he's like, hey, we're getting off topic. He's coming back. Will you guys please give me some money. So when Dwight gets the gift card and it pans to the bull pin, do you see how like everyone is like, whatever? Yeah, that's why.

Wow. The shooting draft. The shooting draft. like everyone is like whatever. Yeah, that's why. Wow! The shooting draft. The shooting draft. Well, Michael is going to ask Pam to come in his office. It's about work. It really is. It is. About work.

It is. Mm-hmm. He is going to offer her a race. She's going to take it. Yeah. But it's still not changing her mood towards him. No, and he wants her to know that the race has strings attached from his heart to her mean attitude. Pam's like, are you bribing me? And then he's like, what do you want? What do you want? Do you want

a million dollars? Do you want to hit me? She says, I want to hit you. Lady, this plotline was so controversial. When this ended up airing, oh my gosh, it lit up the message boards. I bet. Not only does she want to hit him, but she says, in the parking lot, in front of everyone, I'm going to hit you as hard as I can. Everyone gets very invested very quickly. There's a lot of chatter around the office. And Toby is like, Pam, can I talk to you for a second? We all think he's human resources

and he's going to stop this. Yes. But Toby just wants to confirm that she'll be hitting him off property. And then he wants to show her how to throw a punch. Oh my gosh. Charlie Grandy said that Paul is the one who pitched this bit. He pitched it in the room during the rewrite and Charlie said he was pretty new on the office at this time. And when Paul was first pitching it, he thought, well, I don't know how are we going to, how is this going to like play realistically and funny? But Paul was like, I know how to do it. I know how are we gonna, how is this gonna like play realistically and funny? But Paul was like, I know how to do it.

I know how to do it. And he said that Paul just did it perfectly. Totally. I also think this whole joke of Toby's showing Pam, how to throw a punch, is a great example of a joke that lives in history in the character. This is part of Toby's history. Yeah. And we have gotten to know Toby so well and we have seen years of Michael giving Toby,

you know, such a hard time. That of course, of course Toby's going to be like, so the power comes from your back foot. Yeah. And you want to turn because Because it's so clear, the joke is in the subtext that Toby has fantasized about growing a punch at Michael for years. We had a fan catch from Efrat T and Israel, who just wanted to point out that when Michael hit Meredith with this car, he tells Ryan that it was on company grounds because it was the parking lot.

Oh, good catch. But also in the duel, Andy and Dwight are fighting in the parking lot and Jim tells them not to fight at work. So just kind of pointing out suddenly the parking lot is not company property, at least as far as Toby is concerned. That is a really good catch,

because technically she'd have to try to throw a punch out in the street. Or at least on the sidewalk. Yeah. Well, speaking of the parking lot, everyone's gathered outside. Kevin's money is on Pam. Oscar notes it's a one-sided fight. It's not really, you know, Pam winning

is the only outcome here. Well right now there's no Michael. There's just Pam. We can't find Michael. Meredith checks the mincerum, says the toilet seat is still warm. Hmm. Thanks for putting your hand on the toilet seat, Meredith. I guess so. Kelly has made popcorn. Yes, she has. She's bringing snacks and we find Michael in the stairwell. Yeah. He's clearly trying to psych himself up for this moment. And he walks out to the parking lot.

And Pam is going to wind up. She's going to wind up for the punch. He flinches and can I just say that Angela Martin for once is on Pam's side? Oh my gosh, your line is so funny. Pam says, Michael, you have to put your hands down. Angela says, put your hands in your pockets. So this is just another person

who is excited for Michael to get hit. Well, as Pam is getting ready to hit Michael, he actually stops. He apologizes to her for everything. Pam takes it in and she's like, okay, okay. She says, fine, don't date anyone else in my family ever again. And she's going to walk away. She is. But Michael cannot shut his mouth.

Yeah. He says, for the record, your mom came on to me. Ah! Pam? Pivots on her heel and slaps him so hard across the face. And she's got that superhuman pregnancy strength per Kelly. We got a lot of mail. I might say

fan mail flurry. Oh. Enoch and from Pennsylvania wants to know did Jenna really slap Steve? And Angela Katie M from Fresno, California said quote, the moment Pam slaps Michael, I absolutely believe Jenna could have played Sydney Bristo on Alia. Oh, Katie. Okay, fine, Katie, I agree. This is a real Pam kickin' some butt moment. Jenna, you nailed it. I am also curious because my character, as you know, slaps two people on this show, and

I really did hit my co-stars. Did you really hit Steve? I did not. Steve said I should hit him. It did not seem safe to me because I am whipping around. If it was just a slap from a standing position, but this was like, I could not bring myself to do it. I think that's really smart because I hit

Mike sure on the run, your whole body goes into it. And he discussed that slap on our podcast. Yes. Well, our stunt coordinator, Eric Sulkey. Love Eric. Yes, he gave me very detailed instructions on how to pretend slap Steve. And he also worked with Matt Sone

on positioning the camera behind me so that you couldn't even tell that I'm not hitting him. And then Randy told me that we added that slap sound in post-production. So I did not slap Steve. Well, I'm glad you didn't because also you couldn't see him. Your back was to him. Yes. That's what I was worried about. I mean I was worried that I might make contact but I was very specific like we

lined up our bodies. My pivot was highly choreographed. I just pivoted on that one spot. Yeah. You guys sold it. I thought it totally worked. Well, at the end, Michael is limping away. And... Limpink. I know. And Dwight's like, why are you limping? He's like, I don't know. Well, we had a fan question from M.E.L. in Baltimore, Maryland. Was Michael's limping and Dwight's reactions scripted or improvised. It was scripted. Yeah, when I reread this shooting draft, almost every single thing you see was completely scripted. All the little details.

Well, fans had very mixed reactions to this slap. Yeah. A lot of people felt like it was one step too far. They did not like Pam for doing this. I think Steve is so good at playing the vulnerable side of Michael. People were upset. How did we feel about it and rewatching it?

I mean, I thought, you know, Pam was walking away. She wasn't gonna do it. Mm-hmm. And Michael just couldn't leave it alone. I think that collectively, I remember the writers and producers felt that we couldn't end this story of Michael dating Pam's mom doing this like highly insensitive thing to Pam. Not only did he date her mom, he then broke up with her mom on her birthday

in a public place and he needed a comeuppance. He needed to settle this. He did. Him and Pam needed to settle this. And now it's settled. It's not gonna fester. Yes, he did. Him and Pam needed to settle this. And now it's settled. It's not gonna fester. So that was, I think, the reasoning behind it was that we needed to.

This was now, it's been resolved. You know, there were a few relationships on the show that reminded me of siblings. Like Angela Oscar and Kevin. They were almost like siblings, you know? Stanley and Phyllis. Stanley and Phyllis. And I felt like Pam and Michael were like brother and sister. I think that's a really good analogy.

But yeah, I remember people were really chatting about this. Dwight is gonna bring Michael inside and he says he's got some chicken. He can put on that, call back to all that chicken on the microwave. Fan question from Victoria H and Columbus, Ohio, was Dwight holding real raw chicken on Michael's face or did Phil Shea make that? Well, both. It is real chicken. That Phil Shea shrink wrapped. So it was real, but it was like covered in something so that...

Wow. It's so gross. I thought for sure you're gonna say, no, it's a fakie rubber chicken thing. No, it was real chicken. Walsers. Yeah. Well, Dwight thinks he finally did his favor

and he says, fire Jim. Michael's like, no, Dwight is angry and takes his dinner away. Yeah, he's gonna eat that after it was on Michael's face. Apparently. You know, I feel like this episode wraps up best with the talking head that Michael had. Yes, I feel like I need to read it.

Okay, please do. As I watched Pam's big, strong hand coming towards my face, I saw my entire life flash before my eyes. And guess what? I have four kids and I have a hover car and a hover house. And my wife is a runner and it shows. And Pam and Jim are my best friends and our kids play together. And I am happy and I am rich and I never die. It doesn't sound like much but it's enough for me. There you have it. There you have it. Michael in the inn just sees them as his family. Always, always. Next week you guys buckle in because it is murder. Ugh, this is one of my biggest memes.

Me too! People tagged me all the time as Voodoo Mama Juju. That was double date everyone. Listen, check your glutes and maybe pick up some three penis wine if your muscles are hinking after your glute check. We should probably go get some right now, and just skip the three penis wine if your muscles are hinking. After your glute check, we should probably go get some right now, Ange. Skip the three penis wine. We love you.

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