Office Ladies - An Interview with Timothy Olyphant

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

This week the ladies sit down with Timothy Olyphant! Timothy Olyphant is known for a wide range of film and television roles including the award winning shows “Deadwood” and “Justified”. We of... course loved him as Dunder Mifflin’s traveling salesman, Danny Cordray. Jenna, Angela and Timothy chat about his early days in show business and what it was like playing Danny and working on the set of “The Office”. We also ask Timothy the call sheet questions and Jenna and Timothy get into a discussion about bread making, (we might need a spin off podcast called Bread with Timothy). Angela reminds Timothy of a time they drank bourbon on Late Night with Conan O'Brien (she thought it was fakey bourbon, it was not). Timothy is an absolute delight, maybe we do need to take this show on the road! Look out Southwest terminal in Austin because "Office Ladies on the Road with Timothy" might be heading your way. (Kidding but wish we weren't.)  Check out the Center of Reflective Communities: https://www.reflectivecommunities.org/ Check out Office Ladies Merch at Podswag: https://www.podswag.com/collections/office-ladies  Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion  Follow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPod To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I am 50 years old and do you know what I don't want to do on my vacations anymore? Oh probably a few things. I don't want to cram my family into the same one bedroom room and bathroom. I don't want to. No. I don't want us all on top of each other. I want my own bedroom separate from the children, which is why I prefer Airbnb. Because we can all have our space, and then it's like, makes the whole vacation more relaxing. We can go to bed at different times. You know, I can stay up and read,
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Starting point is 00:01:30 Air Transat. Travel moves us. I'm Jenna Fisher and I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on The Office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate office lovers podcast just for you. Each week we will dive deeper into the world of The Office with exclusive interviews, behind the scenes details,
Starting point is 00:01:54 and lots of VFF stories. We're the Office Lady 6.0. Hello there. Hi. We have a really, really fun episode today. I feel like we say that every week, but oh my gosh, if you don't leave with a smile on your face after you listen to this next hour. I don't know what's wrong with you.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I don't either. Also we just love our job, so it is a fun thing. It's fun to get to do this. Really fun. Uh huh. I do. I love my job. I feel so fortunate that I love my job too, Ange. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:30 My parents loved their jobs. My mom was a teacher. My dad was a plastics engineer. They loved what they did for a living, and they always told me, we just hope that you get to have a career that you also love. Yeah. And I do. And they-
Starting point is 00:02:46 What a gift, right? They supported me in my pursuit as an actress because they knew, well, that's the thing she loves. That's what makes her heart happy. Yeah. My sister's a teacher. It makes her heart happy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:57 It's a beautiful thing when that can happen. Yeah. All right, well, listen, you all know that there are still so many people who are on The Office that we have not talked to, that we have wanted to have on the podcast, and today we get to cross one of those names off our list. Yep. Today on Office Ladies 6.0, Timothy Oliphant is in the studio with us. You might know Timothy from his many movies and television roles, including the hugely
Starting point is 00:03:24 successful shows, Deadwood and Justified. Of course, you know, I loved him in The Mandalorian. And you know what? I did not bring it up on purpose because I didn't want to be a total nerd in front of him. I know, I was already a geek. But I loved him in Mandalorian.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And you know, on The Office, he played Danny Cordray, the top salesman in the Scranton-Wilkesbury area. He was the salesman that Michael Scott eventually hires to work at Dunder Mifflin. Yes, the character of Danny Cordray was in two episodes that aired in the original broadcast, the Sting and Costume Contest. And, Angela, you bring up in our interview
Starting point is 00:04:01 that he was also in a deleted scene for Michael's last Dundies. Yep. Now, I love the setup to his character. And, Angela, you bring up in our interview that he was also in a deleted scene for Michael's last Dundee's. Yep. Now, I love the setup to his character. In the sting, Jim and Dwight are on a sales call to their client meeting at Frame Select, and they see rival salesperson Danny Cordray
Starting point is 00:04:18 sitting in the lobby. I thought we should hear it. Dwight. Crap. Danny Cordray is the worst. Well, by worst you mean the best. The best salesman ever. He works for Osprey, Paperover, and Throop. Steals more clients from Dunder Mifflin than anyone.
Starting point is 00:04:36 So the situation is the worst. Also, he slept with Pam. No, he didn't. Tell him. Nothing happened. We went on a couple of dates. He slept with Pam. No, he didn't. Tell him. Nothing happened. We went on a couple of dates. He never called me again.
Starting point is 00:04:51 What? He never called you? I thought you said it just fizzled. That's fizzling. I mean, someone has to start the fizzle. Yeah, I thought you started it. No, I liked him. For a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Four years ago. You know I have a kid with days, four years ago. You know I have a kid with you, right? I just love this. There's so much information and history packed into these little couple of scenes. I know, this was a really fun Jim and Pam runner. We talked more about it, but it was so fun how it kept popping up. Well, I just love that.
Starting point is 00:05:24 And Jenna, in rewatching this episode, it was so funny to me how all the Dunder Mifflin employees react to meeting Danny. So we just heard Jim and Dwight, but I also thought you should hear when Michael first sees him and then the whole bullpen. Sam, help me put these clips together. Let's hear it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Oh no, that's a male model. Oh my God. Janansport Backpacks. 10 or 15 years ago, you were a model for Jansport Backpacks, were you not? Yes. Yeah. What's going on here? I knew it. I remember the one you were like, hey, to Mr. Danny Cordray. He is going to be joining us as our new traveling salesman. Say hello to Danny.
Starting point is 00:06:04 F*** me. Okay, you know what? No. That was a bleep. That was probably standards and practices because Kelly says, you know, the F word. She does. And listen, we've shared this before,
Starting point is 00:06:22 but the character named Danny Cordray was inspired by our very own Randy Cordray. And I just love that his name made it on the show. I know. Well, we always love hearing from you all. And several of you wrote in some great observations and comments about the character Danny Cordray, and we wanted to share. Yes. Starting with Ashley S. from Kaysville, Utah, who wrote in to say, I find it funny that Michael has a talking head
Starting point is 00:06:47 referencing the killer in Scream 2. One of the murderers is Timothy Oliphant. That murderer is now in the office. Ashley, this cracked me up. You know I'm a horror movie fan. You know I know Scream 2. I held myself back from asking Timothy about Scream 2 in our interview because I didn't want to geek out too much.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Let's hear this clip of Michael talking about Scream 2. I tried. I tried. I tried to talk to Toby and be his friend. But that is like trying to be friends with an evil snail. I feel like I'm dying inside. I feel like Neve Campbell in Scream 2. She thinks she can go off to college and be happy, and then the murderer comes back, starts
Starting point is 00:07:42 killing off all of her friends. Learned a lot of lessons from that movie. comes back, starts killing off all of her friends. Learned a lot of lessons from that movie. This is just one of them. Mm-hmm. There's more. There's more lessons than Scream 2. Well, uh, Scream 2 was early in Timothy's career. I mean, he is playing a college student. He is so good in it. He is such a great villain. Like he always often is playing kind of like the nicer guys. The hero guy. But always with
Starting point is 00:08:10 a little darkness. It's interesting we talked to him about it. Good catch Ashley. I loved it. Well we also got this fun catch from Carly F. and Prospect Heights Illinois. She said her and her husband were watching Justified and they realized that Dave Keckner had a few episodes. She said they loved that Timothy and Dave Keckner had a few episodes together, even though they didn't have any together on the office, but they were both traveling salesmen. They also found it ironic that their joint episodes
Starting point is 00:08:40 in Justified both take place in Florida, which is where Todd Packer ends up at the end of The Office. Oh my gosh! This is like a monk crossover, but it's a Justified The Office crossover. I just started watching Justified. It's really good. It's so good, I have not gotten to Dave Kechner yet.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I haven't either, I just started watching it too. Well everyone, thank you so much for writing in. We used a lot of your questions in our interview with Timothy as well. And you know, we're so excited to reunite with him and this really all came about, Jenna, because you ran into him last year. Yes, we were at a mutual friend's birthday party
Starting point is 00:09:17 and I asked him if he would come on the podcast. He was so lovely. He said, of course. We did this interview right before our holiday break and it was just such a great way to end the year. It really was. He's so charming and he hung out with us for over an hour. We talked to him about his time on the office
Starting point is 00:09:34 and so many other things. So let's take a short break. And when we come back, our interview with Timothy Oliphant. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Every January is a time when I feel like we all reflect. You know, you can really do it any time of the year, but I think, you know, you do feel that reset. You do.
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Starting point is 00:11:46 They chose both because they knew the best part of beer is the beer. Your game time tastes like Miller time. Learn more at MillerLite.ca. Must be legal drinking age. My goodness. Timothy, all of going? Good. Oh my gosh, how cool to see you sitting across from us when you've got a scarf on. Well, it's the season. It is the season, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:18 How are you doing? We're good. How are the ladies? The ladies are good. How long have the ladies been in this building? It didn't start here. No. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I like that. I'm going to try to get more of those moments right there. More in unison. Answers. We started at Earwulf, which was this great little space. And then Sirius bought Earwulf and then we ended up renting this little space, which was cute, but like we had a we had like a shower curtain that like separated us from other from Sam and Cassie in the booth. It was sweet. It was cute. But now we're with the folks at Odyssey and we got real fancy building. And that's this is their floor.
Starting point is 00:12:58 This is their building. Yeah. This is their nook. And this space is your space? Yeah. Way to go. Right? I'll get you two. Yeah. That's really good. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:13:12 We're doing all right. Yeah, it's very. Look, we have these doohickeys too. I know, the whole thing is- It says office ladies on the microphone. Pretty swanky. Yeah. Who would have thunk?
Starting point is 00:13:22 I know, right? Just two gals chatting about a show they were on. Chatting, just chatting about. Here in Hollywood, there's a walk of, there's the stars? Yeah, the walk of fame. We don't have one. Wait, do you have a star? No, I don't have a star.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I don't have a star. You know, every now and then you have these moments, you're like, yeah, you're in showbiz. That's right. Little razzle dazzle. I do feel a little showbiz-y when I come here, because I'm coming into the heart of Hollywood. You know, when I first moved to I'm coming into the heart of Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:13:45 You know, when I first moved to LA, I lived in West Hollywood. And I went by all this stuff all the time. But I moved out. I'm not in West Hollywood anymore. You left. Yeah. All right, I'm jumping in.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Okay, jumping in. Ready? All right. Okay, here we go. So listen, we usually start with the same question. We usually ask people, how did you get- They offered it to me. Your job in the office, you already know, but I was going to start with it. You know, first time, I was having first time call it last, anyway, I'm like, yeah, I've listened,
Starting point is 00:14:15 I got it. I got no story for you other than they offer it to me and I said yes. Wait, can we just go on record that Timothy listens to office ladies? Yeah. Thank you. For sure. Let's go. Wow. Yeah. They offered it to you? You guys are huge.
Starting point is 00:14:29 They gave you the office because people are listening. You know that, right? I love it. Well, I was actually gonna start with another question, which was how'd you get your start in showbiz? Like when in your life did you realize that you wanted to be an actor? I articulated it sometime in my early 20s. Okay, you said it out loud. Yes. Yeah. Yes. That's a big
Starting point is 00:14:56 deal though because you usually don't think of it. My wife, I remember, I know it, I may not have articulated it. I don't, well let me say this. I do remember articulating it to my wife. We got married at 22, I just had turned 23. And she, I do know that her response was, you've never mentioned this before. So, I saw that I wanna, so first started talking about it like 22 around there, Yeah. What inspired that? Had you been in a college production or what?
Starting point is 00:15:29 Nothing. Nothing. Now, when I was younger, I do remember thinking, oh, I'd love to do that. I remember thinking comedy, stand-up comedy, I remember thinking that. And my mom said, you don't want to do that. Those people are all on drugs and they're divorced and they're on drugs. And then at a certain point I was like, Mom, you're divorced. You're halfway there. You might as well be in showbiz. So yeah, never done it before. I'd never done it. Wow. And so where do you go from there? So you're like-
Starting point is 00:16:04 Grew up in Modesto, by the way. Grew up in Modesto. We got a fan question about that. We asked people to write in, and someone actually said, Megan G from Albany said, my husband and I lived in Modesto, California. What does Timothy remember about growing up there? Folks are really proud of him out there.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Aw. Oh, that's very kind. I mean, I don't, I mean, I still, my mom lives in Modesto. I still go to Modesto. I was in Modesto just in October. So, yeah. My favorite bread maker is in Modesto, Bonnie O'Hara.
Starting point is 00:16:40 She has a home bakery, fresh breads and cookies and stuff. Wait. That might be my, wait aads and cookies and stuff. Wait. That might be my, wait a minute. What? Wait, wait. Well, that can't be right. Is her name Bonnie? I'm forgetting a name.
Starting point is 00:16:53 But the woman who used to live across from my street, from my mother, had made in her garage, she had a home bakery. Yeah. And she was doing really well. Is that Bonnie? I don't know. Bonnie was your neighbor?
Starting point is 00:17:07 What's her? Bonnie O'Hara. And do we need a moment to Google? She wrote a cookbook. No, I'm looking at my contacts. No, I don't think it's her. I go. Okay, she wrote a cookbook.
Starting point is 00:17:17 She's your favorite. Yeah. Bread Making for Beginners. And I bought her cookbook. I started making bread thanks to her. But she has got a whole business in her little home kitchen and she sells bread subscriptions. No, for a second there. For a second there, I don't think. Bonnie, if I do know you, I'm really
Starting point is 00:17:39 sorry because it's been a minute. But listen, if it's not Bonnie, the takeaway is Modesto is the mecca for bread making. Yeah. Good bread there. Awesome good bread. Yeah. I just finished a job in Finland and the AD made the best bread. Homemade? Homemade bread.
Starting point is 00:17:57 They're big on their bread there. Very healthy good breads in Finland. I guess Europe just has great bread in general. They do. People say like, oh, if you don't want gluten, don't worry about it so much there in Europe. Anyway, I don't understand it. And as a wrap, Giffey gave me the recipe. No kidding. He gave me a little notebook and a handwritten recipe. Tried to convert it from metric. And we haven't made it yet, but that's the plan this holiday. We're going to make the bread. Auntie, Auntie's bread.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I love that. First day of D. I'm a bread enthusiast. Okay. Jenna used to bring in like her yeast, like in the bowl, right? Is that what it's called? Yeah, you gave it a name? Well, I would bring in my dough.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Angela, ask her. My yeast gets a name, right? My starter, my starter's name was Goldie. Your starter gets... Did you know? What? No. How long have you two known each other? Am I here to bring you together? Bring you closer?
Starting point is 00:18:52 I didn't know your starter had a name. Yes, its name was Goldie. Goldie. Because you have to feed it every day and I said it's like taking care of a goldfish, so I named it Goldie. How did you know that? You know you're this close to having a second podcast. You're gonna be my replacement.
Starting point is 00:19:10 All about Fred. With Timothy and Jenna. You laugh, but. It could happen. Oh my God, for sure it could happen. Okay, back to your career. This is a show, you've built a monster show here all based on one half hour comedy.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah. Bread. It's bigger. It's huge. It's bigger than the office. I mean, it's huge. People love the office. People really love bread.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I mean, it's a big deal. It's a big deal. I'm just saying. I would bet. What do you mean, you're a big deal. It's a big deal. I'm just saying. I would bet. What are you in here, twice a week? Most people. How many days a week are you in here?
Starting point is 00:19:49 One day. Are you wanting to risk space? Once a week? Exactly, for the bread podcast? Yeah. Come on. Timothy's gonna be in here on Tuesdays, guys. We'll bring you on.
Starting point is 00:20:01 We have a network now. We do, we have a network. You can have a bread podcast on our network if you want it. You have a network? Yes, the Office Ladies Network. What the? What the hell? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 God damn it, I've miss-met my whole show business. Listen, Bread with Timothy. It could happen. It could. All right, what's our next question? Oh wait, I'll do this. Theme song by Bread. By Bread.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You know the band? Yes. There you go. Okay, wait. It writes itself. It does. It really does. It's right there.
Starting point is 00:20:35 We were gonna ask you next. I haven't said anything I remember about Modesto, by the way. Yeah, what is besides the bread? What is your favorite place to eat Modesto? Like what's your, like I know Archer City, Texas. I go to Mearns for a cheeseburger. Oh, wow. You know, I mean, the places I've been going to lately
Starting point is 00:20:54 are not places I went to growing up. Modesto, I mean, growing up when I think of like, where'd you go to eat when you were growing up? I mean, we're like, we went to Arby's and we went to, you know, like Taco Bell, tacos, you know, that kind of thing. It was kind of a fast food joint. There was an incredible, I think it's still there, Mexican joint on the way out to Oakdale. Oh, I can't remember it. God, I'm terrible. But that would be like, that was great to go out there. And I'm pretty sure that's still there.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Mexican food place on the way to Oakdale. I don't sound like, I've really drifted far from my roots. Modesto's Golden Sun. I really have. Cause we didn't really go out to, it's not a go out to dinner tune. I know. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Like my memories of food in terms of, it's like going to get Winchell's on Sunday morning, or getting donuts or something. Yeah. Oh, that's good though. I don't remember like foodie places. There's a little bit of that now, because almost the whole country's got into food.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Right. Foodie places. Fancy foodies. Yeah. So yeah, no, my childhood memories are just, you know, it was all about just roaming around. We, you know, canals and orchards and all that. That's the end of that story. Cake parties in the orchard, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:18 In the canal. Yeah. That was the teenage years times. Yeah. Yeah. We had pasture parties when I moved back to the States. But I read that you were a swimmer. Swam.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I grew up next to, we grew up next door to a place which is still there called, it was at the time called the Modesto Swim and Racket Club. It was literally, we had an old farmhouse, we had a field and a barn, horse, chickens and stuff that. And we could just walk through that over to the racket club. And so my brothers and I all we just were there all the time just running around. You know, it was a walk to school neighborhood and yeah so. That sounds really good to me right now.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Yeah, so I swam and we all swam and played tennis. My brother and I, by the way, we're hosting a charity tomorrow, tennis charity. My brother and I, we've never done it before, first annual, OLE, it's what we're calling it, the OLE. We're raising money for this really great place called the Center for Reflective Communities. It deals with teen and young adult mental health. And so if people want to go on there, they can hit the little plus sign and donate. And where it says subject, you can put in our thing, Play For Good, the OLE, Play For Good and donate money. And God bless you, because they do wonderful work for, Lord knows the young people need some help these days.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Well, we'll share that. We'll put it in our Instagram stories with a swipe up and I'll show up with my racket. Oh, let's go. Okay. Bring it. We're playing a Dingles. I love Dingles. Okay, we're playing Dingles and we've got like,
Starting point is 00:23:51 I think there's like 16 or 17 players that are all coming and donating like 500 bucks to play. And then like 16, 17 pros. Oh gosh, so maybe. But still come out and hit some balls. You can hit with some pros. Wait, are you playing? I'm playing.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Dingles is so fun. You can come out and play a little bit, hit with some of the pros, and you can only say, okay, it's too much, I don't wanna play anymore, and just hang out and there's alcohol. Great. Dingles is, you have to hit cross court.
Starting point is 00:24:21 So like I have to hit cross court, and then the person next to me hits cross court. And then the first person that misses, you can only hit cross court. So like I have to hit cross court and then the person next to me hits cross court. And then the first person that misses, you can only do cross court. And when you miss you yell, dingles. And then the other ball that's active becomes a free ball for the whole court. But what happens to me is the minute someone yells dingles,
Starting point is 00:24:38 I like, I freeze. Cause I'm like, what happened? And then the ball goes moving past me. I'm like, ah. Cause like, imagine someone next to you yelling dingles really loud. Dang off! Wouldn't that make you?
Starting point is 00:24:49 It would, yeah. It did right now. I could see it on her face. I froze. I stopped talking. As soon as you guys started saying dingles, I haven't said a word. We're doing it tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Yay! Yeah. Okay. There we go. Now let's see. Okay, back to The Office. Had you seen the show before? Were you a fan of it?
Starting point is 00:25:08 Did you know anyone on The Office? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'd seen both versions. Did I know anyone? I knew Rain. Oh, yeah. Rain Wilson, when I first started acting in New York, he was my understudy in a play.
Starting point is 00:25:26 What was the play? Pretty sure that's true. It was called The Monogamous at Playwrights Horizons. By the way, I'm gonna go see Rain's play Friday. Waiting for Godot. Saturday, closing night. I'm gonna go see Waiting for Godot on Saturday. I saw it, he's great in it.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah, I can't wait. He's really good. I have a question from a fan. Let's go. It's Amit R. from Edmonton, Alberta, who wants to know on The Office, what was hardest to get used to, the improvising in scenes or learning to see the camera as a separate character?
Starting point is 00:25:58 Take us back. You're very great, like right out of the gate at like clocking the camera. Yeah. Because some people that threw them off, but you, we watched you look at the camera. I appreciate hearing that. I was about to answer that question with the question, which was, I don't remember, did I look at the camera?
Starting point is 00:26:17 What? Yes. It's all very vague, foggy to me, what I, my experience. I don't remember. You do, you clog a camera. Am I on one episode or multiple episodes? You're on two episodes. I'm on two episodes. Two and then you have a cameo and Michael's.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I hope that doesn't sound pretentious, I just don't remember. No, no, it's fine. You're in two episodes and then you have a little cameo for Michael's Last Dundee's where Michael sends the camera crew, because Danny Cordray wins hottest in the office. And it's in deleted
Starting point is 00:26:45 scenes and I'm pretty sure it'll end up in the super fan episodes too. But yeah, so you're you do win a deleted scene in another episode. Yes. Michael's last two episodes and then you got deleted from a third, but you'll probably be added back. Oh, and what's that scene? You've won hottest in the but I didn't show up for that. You didn't. And so you come on-
Starting point is 00:27:07 So how am I in it? Oh, they put me on the screen? Michael has a TV screen. Yeah. And your character says, yeah, I said I couldn't be there, but Michael sent out a camera crew to my house. Oh, so I shot that. You shot that. Yes. You talk. It's you.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You did it. I don't remember that. Oh shot that. Yes, you talk, it's you. You did it. I don't remember that. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. I do remember getting the Dundee though, and they sent it to my house. It was very, it was pretty great.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I got the little trophy. Yeah. So do you still have it that says hottest in the office? I don't know. Oh, that would be great to have for your shelf. Yeah. Yes. I have two and this will go next to it greatest world's best podcast guest. Yay, our coffee mug. I have two
Starting point is 00:27:56 world's greatest dads. I've won it twice. Aw, that's so cute. Yeah. Now I've been a father for 25 years, but I've only got it twice. And you have three children. I have three children. Have only two awarded you this award. By the way, that's a good question. Or is it the same kid? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I just like that for some reason I have two of them. Somewhere along the line, they either forgot they gave me one or they're like, let's get it to them again. Yeah, he really likes that. Let's give him another one. And I don't know if I am the world's greatest dad because I don't even remember who gave it to me or why or when I got it, I just know I have two. Well.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And I've always liked having the two side by side. And I think for a second, the Dundee might have been there. I'm a bit of a minimalist at the house, I don't tend to keep a lot of stuff. That's good. That's smart. Oh, very good. Yeah, yeah, I mean I-
Starting point is 00:28:42 Let me turn that frown around. So I don't remember the looking at the camera bits. Okay. But it sounds like a winner. You did it really well. That's great. Okay, cool. I don't remember anything being difficult about the show.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I remember, other than, I do remember laughing. I'm sure I screwed up what would have been a really good scene, because with Correll, where I was, I just couldn't stop laughing, because it was so intense and funny and there's a little bit of disappointment still there that I could not keep a straight face. Is it when you're trying to leave the building? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Yes, it's in the bloopers. Yeah, so at least it's got a life somewhere because he's incredible and he's fully committed and I'm quite certain, I haven't seen it in a long, you know, but that I'm the one busting up more than he is. I'm sure I'm busting up and then, and that's making him then laugh. But he was really impressive. Oh yeah, he doesn't break. He's like a statue. It's really hard to make him laugh.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, I know. He was very committed. I have fond memories of my experience, you know, just in general. I just remember enjoying the whole thing. And you guys were all wonderful pros, great vibe. You'd already been on the air for a while. Yeah, it was season seven, but it was always so fun when someone new came in because that new energy that it would bring to the set. And I loved it so much. I rewatched it. The
Starting point is 00:30:01 fact that Danny Cordray thinks Pam is a dork. And that's why, do you remember our storyline? It's coming back to me now. Yeah, so we had gone on a couple of dates when Jim was away. Two dates. Two dates, and it was supposed to be a third, but then you didn't call me back. And, but you try to tell Jim that it was that I didn't call you back. And so I say, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And then we will not leave you alone. We're like, he has this great scene where he's like, man, why didn't you call her back? And you're like, for real, you wanna know why I didn't call your wife back for a date like five years ago? And you eventually admit that it's because you thought I was a little dorky.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And it's so great and it was so fun. What's so cute too? That's so wonderful. It's such a great scene. And when you finally admit it that she's, that Pam's a little dorky, I watched it with my son who's 16 and he turned to me and he goes, this is so cringy. Well, I'm dressed as olive oil. I'm in a full Halloween costume.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And so I am being pretty dorky. And she goes, when you call her dorky, she goes, oh, OK. Blah, blah, excuse me. And it's so funny. Do you remember that too? Yeah. That's so fun. I love that storyline so much.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I want to ask you about The Sting. That's the first. I love that storyline so much. I want to ask you about the sting. That's the first episode where you show up and you're this salesman and Michael's gonna try to figure out why are you so good? You're this rival salesperson. Yeah. And so they set up that fake office. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And then Meredith is an Oscar come in. Meredith, wait, her name is something Van Helsing. What is it? Do you remember? Dwight Nutter. I mean, I do remember, I remember, now a lot of this is coming back to me now, but I do remember the sting.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Remember that scene being in the office and her acting like she's super rich and in charge or something like that. Yes, yeah. And people are coming in and out. Yes, because she starts to really hit on you. And so they're like, ah, she's going to ruin it. Send in Oscar. And then Oscar comes in and she's literally like, he's here to clean. He speaks no English. And then they send in Ryan the temp. And she's like, that's Esteban. He does floors. Like,
Starting point is 00:32:20 so she keeps like thwarting their plans. Yes. It's really fun. It is a show. how long ago is that? It's a long time. It's been, my God, how long ago now? I mean, we probably shot that in 2010. Yeah. I mean, 15 years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah. People still will be like, you know. Yeah, do you already guys for the recording? Yeah, I'll get the occasional like, you know. Yeah, do you recognize for the recording? Yeah, I'll get, you know, the occasional like, hey, were you in the office? Yeah. That happens. That happens.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I mean, that's so wild, because you have such amazing, huge, larger than life other characters. It's a huge, and also you get it from like teenagers and stuff. Yeah. It's amazing. Show that just keeps on giving. Yes. How cool to keeps on giving. Yes. How cool to be honest, you guys were
Starting point is 00:33:08 part of something that culturally relevant and huge. We had no idea at the time. Kind of amazing. Yeah. It was pretty wild. I mean, I don't have those kind of problems. You guys must get that craziness. People must go, hey, can you go to the airport?
Starting point is 00:33:23 What's it like when you go to the airport? It's nuts. I can go a lot of places. I really fly under the radar and I always have. I don't know if it's like some sort of like special gift or something. I don't know. But I, like I was once rear-ended by the paparazzi who were chasing Christina Ricci and I had to get out of my car and like exchange information with them, and they never took my photo. That's like how invisible I am to that world. Well, I would challenge you to fly Southwest to Austin and walk through that airport,
Starting point is 00:34:03 because you're gonna get recognized a lot. I think I can do it. I'll through that airport. Okay. Cause you're going to get recognized a lot. Okay. I do. I think I can do it. I get. I'll take that challenge. Let's go. We're taking the show Office Ladies on the Road.
Starting point is 00:34:11 We're going to film one. I don't know. Guys, we're going to film one. I get recognized a ton at airports. Southwest terminal in Austin. It's a great town. You'll get recognized. I won't.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's in the budget. Let's go. It's in the budget. We could go talk to people about bread in Austin. I invited myself on the trip by the budget. Let's go. It's in the budget. We can go talk to people about bread and Austin. I invited myself on the trip by the way. You're on our spinoff show, Ops Ladies on the Road. Yeah, obviously it's on the road. Come on, that's a fun show.
Starting point is 00:34:33 You're a man on the street. And then we have Bread of the Week. Bread of the Week, Southwest Austin. We're building a network show by show right now. I mean, you guys have a network. This is what you guys... Will you please be at our next think tank meeting? Because we have 44 episodes we have to film.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I like that there have been already think tank meetings. Yes. Yes. Yeah. We've got one coming up in January. They don't come up often. Well, it's a holiday. So you're shutting it down.
Starting point is 00:35:00 We're taking some time. In January, you get to think tank. Yeah, we're going to think tank it. In January you get to think tank. Yeah, we're gonna think tank it. Okay. In the episode costume contest, Michael says you remind him of someone and Kelly says, is it Josh Duhamel? Fan question from Kiela V in Texas, do you often get confused for Josh Duhamel?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Follow up, I heard he was on your Christmas card once. Yeah, so I've told this story before, so forgive me for it. So yes, obviously I do. But yeah, he was in my, he took a picture with, we were at an event together, we'd never met. But as soon as we saw each other, started laughing. And while we were talking, one of the Dodgers,
Starting point is 00:35:41 we were at a Dodgers event and one of the guys asked him if he was gonna be in any more Hitman movies, which is a movie I did, and he asked Josh in front of me. And it was really great. I watched him get mistaken for me in front of me. It was just wonderful. And then it occurred to me, I said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:04 I got my whole family here. Would you? And he knew right away, he's like, I'm in, you got it. So great. So he took a picture with my wife and three kids and we sent it as the holiday Christmas card. That's so awesome. My mom had it on the fridge and had noticed it.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Didn't clock it. My brother called me, said, dude, mom had it on the fridge and had noticed it. Didn't clock it. My brother called me. He said, dude, mom had no idea. That's so great. I had to point it out to her and she said, I thought he looked taller. It's such a good story. It's a great story. So yeah, me and Josh, forever linked, lovely guy. He's a great sport about it.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Kind of funny. It's funny. Do you guys have one of those? Yeah. I've got a couple. Yeah? Yeah. I would get Amy Adams and Isla Fisher. Okay. And have you spoken to them about it? Yeah. Because you assume they also... Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Or maybe she says, sometimes the paparazzis don't pay attention to me because they think I'm you. Yeah. She's like, they're like, go ahead, Jenna. Sometimes when I'm being ignored, I realize, oh, you guys think I'm Jenna. Yeah, exactly. No, one time at a party, Amy and I were both at the party. And the guy I was with at the time, he came up to me, and he's like, oh my god, I'm so embarrassed. I just went up and I put my arm around Amy Adams.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I thought it was you. I thought it was you. And I was like, nope, I'm over here. And then she came up and she was like, I met your date. It was so great to meet him. So yeah, so we've talked about it a little bit, but I don't, it's, I kind of see it. Did you also say NPS, don't put your arm around me in public.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I was like, I mean, we're not together anymore. See? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Cause you overstepped with somebody else. Do you get one? I've gotten before a shorter version of Laura Dern, but like the short version. She's really tall.
Starting point is 00:38:09 So I don't know. That's, I don't know. I don't know. What do you, that's all I got. But you don't have the doppelganger, showbiz doppelganger out there that you know you're being mistaken for because that's what we have. We have the, yeah, you know, I'll get giggles
Starting point is 00:38:23 behind a counter and then I realize they don't know who I am. Yeah, right. They think I'm him. Yes. No, no. Although I really want to tell Laura Dern that someday, that like, hey, I'm your short version. Yeah, yeah. You should play her short sister in something.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Yeah. I wanna ask you a little bit about Justified. Yes. I have only just started watching the series, but I am loving it. Thank you, it's a nice thing to say. Me too, my husband loved it. And then he had me start watching it, I love it.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Oh, thank you. Do you still have the hat? Never kept it. What? You didn't keep your hat, you didn't keep your dundee? So, keep that in mind with the dundee, right, I didn't keep the hat, yeah. That is shocking to me.
Starting point is 00:39:07 What about from Deadwood, do you have your star? No, I didn't keep any. Do you take anything from sets? So yes, in that, like a pair of jeans or anything that's practical. So you're like, ooh, I like the fit of these, I'm gonna wear these. Oh, these are nothing sentimental. No, I never take anything sentimental. I take things that I'm like, oh, I like the fit of these. I'm gonna wear these. Oh, these are nothing sentimental.
Starting point is 00:39:25 No, I never take anything sentimental. I take things that are like, oh, I could use some socks. Right. Yeah. No, like my kids will make fun of me. Like if I buy something, they'll be like, oh, dad bought a shirt. Because a lot of times I will just be wearing things
Starting point is 00:39:40 that have like my character name or it either says like, you know, when they put inside, it either says hero or it says like, you know, Raelyn. Yeah, I'll have like a pair of jeans and inside it just says Raelyn or hero. Yeah, I'll have that. You know what- T-shirts, anything that's, those I'm take all,
Starting point is 00:40:00 I always tell the cost, you know, the customer, I would say, look, there's gonna be some things missing at the, so I just, I hope it's in the budget. It's just my clothes, my whatever. But I don't, I've never taken. That's how you shop. Yeah. And I will say, cause I always think to myself, what am I going to do with the hat? I mean, it's just going to sit there somewhere and take up space and I, I don't like having
Starting point is 00:40:19 a, but. You don't, you're minimal at home. We've learned this. I'm a bit of a minimalist. I'm a bit of the, when I first heard about that Maria Kondo. Oh, right. I was like, oh, yeah, I got it. You're like, I do it already.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I'm there, but she added the little thank you for your service. You ever hear that little quote that she does? As you throw it away. As you throw it away? Or as you gift it. Yeah, yeah, I love that. I've added that.
Starting point is 00:40:43 You pass it on. I've added that. Thank you for your service. Big fan. Thank you for your time here. Big fan of that. But I did keep a hat from the show. We did a thing, it's a spoiler, but we did a thing where there was a guy,
Starting point is 00:40:55 a villain with a hat towards the very end of this, the original show's ending. And I wore this hat, I took the dead guy's hat because he shot my hat. I had a whole, we had a whole story. Anyway, I took that hat and then had it refitted so that I could just wear like a free hat. Yeah. It was a little bit along that practical thing. I was like, I'd love to get a free hat out of this. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:21 But I don't want to want that hat, the D hat. So I got another hat. You wouldn't recognize it as the hat from the show, because you just have it re-blocked. I kind of wish I did that with the Raylan hat. Yeah. Just took it and then just had it. I forget you can just have a hat re-blocked and just make it into, it's not even recognizable. It'd be a fun fact to say, yeah, this is a Raylan hat. Yeah. There it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:45 It just re- But I just like how it looks. Yeah, just change it around. I have a little story for us. Well, two things. One, I have a question from Julio in Clinton, New Jersey. Julio says, which office character would best survive the justified universe? I'm going with Creed.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Okay. I think he is in that world. He's sort of a criminal, but also sort of not. He's questionable. I feel like a marshal would be needed to track him in some way. To wrangle him. Yep. They all would have been great. Because everyone on your show is so good at comedy,
Starting point is 00:42:21 but not acknowledging the comedy without pointing it out, which is kind of what we were doing a little bit. Very much. Nothing more fun than taking someone who's like known for sitcom and putting them in like a cool gritty like comedic performance on our show. That was always my favorite thing. I always love that when I watch a show to see someone from a world that's like totally different.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I think your character was that on The Office too for a lot of people. That was really cool. Yeah, because your time on The Office was after Deadwood but before Justified. Okay, I'll take your word for it. It was. So if you had watched Deadwood.
Starting point is 00:43:00 It's all a bit of a blur. Yeah, as a Deadwood fan, which I was, you know, we had, that was a thing that we did on the show a lot. Like we had a lot of folks who had been on The Sting. Wait, is that the name of the show? No, The Wire. I was gonna say them.
Starting point is 00:43:14 It's like, wow. We're professionals. Oh, hold on. Timothy. Can I just tell you, this is our last show of 2024. You had, you had. Can you feel it? You had Redford, Newman, who else did you have from The Sting?
Starting point is 00:43:26 They were all in... Jacky Gleason. Gleason. He was in it? Amazing. They were great on the show. I forgot Jacky Gleason was in The Sting. Have you watched The Sting in a while?
Starting point is 00:43:34 I have. Because it holds up and it's fantastic. I have. It's one of my favorite movies. I would look, you know, I keep a list of things and I want to say I watched it like a year or two ago. Same. I haven't seen it in a while. Really solid. All right. So good. Just wonderful performances.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I mean just, wow. It's that ending. It's just like you love everybody, right? Yeah. When they're all closing up shop, giving them a little... On the nose. Now I need to rewatch it. It's so wonderful. flavors of pistachio or shake up your mood with an iced brown sugar oat shaken espresso. Whatever you choose, your espresso will be handcrafted with care at Starbucks. I found a little something on YouTube that I want to talk to you about. Okay. Well. I'm leaning in. So everybody's leaning in. You should have teased that.
Starting point is 00:44:52 By the way, put that in the front of the show. I found a little thing on YouTube I want to ask you about. But we'll get that in a little bit. We'll get to that later. And then people will really stick around. Stay tuned. Why do you think we've lost them? What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:45:07 All right. What do you got on you? By the way, let's circle back to that thing you were saying on YouTube. Yes. See what I did there? Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:15 If you just do this for us, we have some ads for you later, too. Oh, I'd love to sit in on the ads. Oh, you're so funny when you read ads on Conan. I love it. Oh, thank you. That made me laugh so hard. Yeah, I read ads on Conan. I love it. Oh, thank you. That made me laugh so hard. Yeah, I read ads on Conan. It's really funny. Okay, YouTube. Here we go. Okay. It was April 2015. Okay. You were a guest. I'm right there. You were a guest on Conan O'Brien. Uh huh. Justified last episode was that night. There was going to be a party.
Starting point is 00:45:45 You bring onto Conan a mason jar of whiskey from Kentucky. And you and Conan and Andy all drank whiskey during the interview. Yeah. I was the second guest that night. And I came out and you poured me a whiskey. You didn't realize it was real whiskey. I was like, surely this isn't real whiskey.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And I took a big slug of it. Yeah, I remember. And I was like, oh wow, that's real whiskey. So that is the first time I've ever drank on television. And I rewatched the interview. You totally are great. First of all, that you guys were sipping. And then I come out, I take my slug of whiskey, and I am so like wackadoodle in the interview. I don't know. No, you're being tough on yourself. No, no, no. It was really good whiskey. And I totally thought it was a bit. And I didn't know. No, you're being tough on yourself. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:46:45 It was really good whiskey and I totally thought it was a bit and I didn't think it was actual whiskey. Yeah, we committed. We committed. You guys are very committed. Timothy, we shared with our listeners that you and I recently connected at our mutual friend's birthday party. And I got to meet your wife of 30 years. Yep. Don't mess me up. 30 something, I think. Go ahead. She is amazing. Thank you. I'm a wife. Thank you. But that's nice of you to say.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Okay. I agree. We got a fan question from Kim P in Chicago who said, the sexiest thing about you is your long relationship with your wife. Would you be willing to tell us your meat cute? Oh, we're separating. You are not, you are not. I have to assume that when you met her, you knew immediately that you needed to marry this person. She is one of the most phenomenal human beings I have ever met.
Starting point is 00:47:51 One of the strongest, best first impressions a human has ever made on me. Your wife is like, she is, Alexis is like a gem of a human being. Oh, that's lovely to hear. I will pass that on to her. I mean, how did you do it? Because she's never seen anything I've ever been in.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And so. But that's kind of true, isn't it? What part? That she doesn't like really engage in the whole like Hollywood thing. No, no. We met in college and- Where'd you go to college? We went to USC. Yeah. We met in college. And where did you go to college?
Starting point is 00:48:25 We went to USC. OK. Junior year of college. Yeah, we were 20. And we were in a class, oceanography. That's a cool class. It was like a science requirement. And I was swimming at SC.
Starting point is 00:48:41 All the athletes, basically, we had the, you know, the athletes got the counselor. They all said you're taking oceanography, like that's your science and it's super fun class and it's really popular. There's this guy, Pipkin, professor there. It was a fun class. Anyway. Is it like the easy science class? I think that was the idea. Like all the athletes were like, you should take oceanography because that'll satisfy your science and it's kind of a big easy class and it's popular. They probably also just liked all the athletes taking the one class. The same. Because we're all getting the same tutor. We're all being tutored to get through it.
Starting point is 00:49:12 We had a class like that they called Shake and Bake because it was earthquakes and natural disasters. And all the athletes were in it. There you go. So that's your Shake and Bake. Yeah. Ocean Island. And you got a field trip to... Catalina Island. were in it. There you go. So that's your shake and bake. Yeah, oceanography and you got a field trip to Catalina Island. To Catalina. So you'd go out on the boat and go out there and go swimming, snorkeling Catalina because Essie's got like a oceanography institute out there. Oh that's cool. Yeah. So she was in the class? She was in the class. She used to come in late. One of the last people to come in, so I'd always see her coming in. And to
Starting point is 00:49:47 your point, I began referring to her as my girlfriend. We'd never met, but I was like, that's my girlfriend. I need to save her a spot because she comes in late and she'll have to come up and sit next to me. So, yeah, that's we had met taking oceanography class. We had friends in common. Yeah, we first met. I introduced myself to her after class. That's so cute. And the rest is history.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yep. All right. You've been so generous with your time. Well, it's kind of you. The last thing that we have. It's been a pleasure. I appreciate the invitation. Oh, thank you. have. The last thing that we have. It's been a pleasure. I appreciate the invitation. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Yeah. The last thing we do on the show is season five of Office Ladies. The last thing we do on the show are our call sheet questions. These are questions that we would ask members of our cast and crew, and then we would put their little answers on. The back of the call sheet.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah, we'd put their answers on the back of our call sheets. We didn't do this. Like, the production office did it. But it was such a fun thing on the set of the call sheet. Yeah, we'd put their answers on the back of our call sheets. We didn't do this like the production office did it, but it was such a fun thing on the set of the office. And it's how people like you learned a little bit about the cast or crew. It's a lovely show. I know it's not wonderful. Yeah. So you guys are dominating the world with your show and just and just making all this and also with the lovely kind of wonderful atmosphere and feel good. The camaraderie, yeah. The camaraderie. It was like a family, really.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah. Yeah. So you want to kick it off, lady? Sure. Okay. First question is, what was your first job? It could be your first paid acting job or maybe your first job in general? As far as I can remember, I think we would be accepting two answers, either lifeguarding
Starting point is 00:51:30 or swim coaching. I think I coached. Yeah, those are probably the two jobs I kind of did when I was growing up. Used to give swim lessons. Yeah. Because I was a swimmer. All right, so we're going gonna go with lifeguarding.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Lifeguarding. Lifeguarding. Yeah. All right, do you play a musical instrument? I play guitar, not well, but I play it. I played it a couple of times for a movie, and never got into it for a couple of different jobs, but learned it well enough for the job.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And then just a few years ago, either pandemic or strike, I mean, just not long ago, my daughter who's a very good singer-songwriter, she was like, dad, you should play guitar with me. So I started playing guitar with her and that got me into it. That is so sweet.
Starting point is 00:52:23 So I owe her some thanks. Next question, what's a place that you've been to that you absolutely loved? Oh well I love the Carmel, the sort of northern California. Carmel has always been a very, they can put as many bad art galleries and cuties, but, I still, I love it. I don't care how many they, that's how great that place is. They can shove, they've shoved so much bad art in that little community and I'm still like, yeah, it's great. I love it. Can't ruin it. I just love that coast and that is always, I've always had a soft spot for it. And we used to go there as kids, not so, not far from Modesto. And my wife and I always go, we honeymoon there.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I love that area. All right. I've got the next one. What do you like to do on the weekends? These days? Sure. Yeah. So we, I swim early Saturday morning. This is like the routine. I swim early Saturday morning,
Starting point is 00:53:25 this is like the routine, I swim early Saturdays. You still swim? Still swim. Okay. I've gotten way back into, I don't know why, it's like a thing. My wife dragged me, I've always swam, but a few years ago I was working in Tribeca
Starting point is 00:53:41 with Alex Winter in New York, and my wife is like, oh, we found a pool, we usually do. And then there was a master's program there. And she's like, let's do masters, you know, where you kind of like are with a group and there's a coach. And I was like, I don't want to do that. Come on. And then I did it. And I love it. I'm like, yeah. So now, yeah, swim over it. So I swim usually Saturday mornings. Lately, we have a, my wife and I share an art studio with our son. If we're really a mellow weekend, we'll go to, we like a Saturday in the art studio. It's kind of great. I mean, if we're just hanging in town, dog walks, our kids are wearing empty nesters, so it's just chill time. We do whatever. We're done with the
Starting point is 00:54:30 like, taking kids to a tennis tournament or whatever. Yeah. Which is kind of nice. That sounds really chill. May play tennis over the weekend. I play with my kid. I play with my brother. Yes, weekends, weekends are pretty chill. Sunday more like just Sunday tend to be stick around the house. Yeah. Like chore day kind of chores. Like, do you have a Sunday chore? Angela, I'm in show business. I grew up doing so many chores. Did you guys have chores?
Starting point is 00:55:08 I was a chore. You were a chore person growing up. You had chores. We had major chores. Major chores. My buddies were like, dude, I was like, I just got to do my chores and then I'm free. And they were like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And now my kids, I don't think they know, they'd be like, chore, what is that? Look it up in the dictionary. I know. I know. That's a chore. We decided to have chore day and we told our kids they have to load the dishwasher. What? That's a ****? Yes. Oh my God. You know what my chores were growing up? Load the dishwasher. Well, listen, I'm in Los Angeles. That's a routine. That's not a chore. Yes, thank you. That's a-
Starting point is 00:55:47 But they're 14. But let me tell you, you have a- Wait, that's still. What, what are you- How do you mean that? But they're 14. But like, why, like we're in Los Angeles, it's not like, listen, in Archer City, Texas,
Starting point is 00:56:00 chores were like, go, you, I had friends that had to milk the cows. Yeah. We had to go collect eggs, we had to clean out ponds, we had to like mow lawns, and we had to like prune and weed and like, we had like chores.
Starting point is 00:56:12 It was like, there was a wheelbarrow involved. Anyway. We had a wheelbarrow involved, there was something that took gasoline. Yes. That was a chore. I rode with my dad where he bailed hay. It was like chopping, we had like, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:24 there was something involved that you might get, like there might be blisters. No, I'm not saying. There was a shed, we had to go out to the shed. Okay, fine. Keeping them grounded. Well, anyway. Let's hear it. I want you to know.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Love the dishwasher. I want to tell you, it was a f***ing show. F***. When I opened the dishwasher, I was like, what the hell happened in here? Everything was just thrown in there. I do remember the moments with my kids and when they were pretty old. And I'm like, could you just sweep this up and, you know, and then, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:55 and I started watching. I'm not even gonna name which one because pretty much all of them had this moment where I was watching them sweep. And I'm like, who taught you to sweep? What is that? Where'd you learn that? And I realized I've failed. I haven't taught them. It's my fault. I mean, I can't blame them for not knowing how to sweep.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Clearly that's something you have to kind of, at some point. Someone has to show you. Oh my God, it was so embarrassing. I was like, that's not how you sweep. How is that? I thought that was just something you knew. No, no, it was so embarrassing. I was like, that's not how you sweep. How is that? I thought that was just something you knew. No, no, it's not natural.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I have a new thing that I just implemented with my kids. I wanna get your take on it, all right? Let's hear it. So I heard this on a podcast, which when I told my kids that they were like, oh no, mom heard a podcast. Mom and her podcast. CB. Mom and her podcast.
Starting point is 00:57:46 KS. Mom and her ideas. So the thought behind it is rather than make them a chore list that they have to do, you teach them how to notice what needs to be done and do it because the mental labor of making the list and saying what has to be done, like that's half the chore. So what you're wanting to do is like raise people who can see with their own eyes what needs to be done. So I have this thing where I- This is a podcast called Pipe Dreams. Pipe Dreams for Parents. Pipe Dreams for Parents.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Pipe Dream for Parents. Next on the Office Ladies Network. There's Pipe Dreams for Parents who don't live practically. So here's what I did. This is kind of thing. It feels like this is like right next to Whole Foods, like where you go down the aisle in Whole Foods and there's like just stuff in there that's supposed to do things. We're like, how is that even possible?
Starting point is 00:58:43 That doesn't work. We all just lost our minds as soon as we walked in this place. I set a timer for 15 minutes. And they have to notice? For 15 minutes, they have to walk around and notice, see what needs to be done and do it. How's that working? Wait, and then they're done after 15 minutes? Yeah. This is making my dishwasher thing look hardcore. I gotta say,
Starting point is 00:59:06 I mean, I hope they turn out. I do. You know that. And by the way, I feel the same about my kids are already in their 20s, so I have a pretty good idea. But that seems crazy compared to how... No, I mean, I'm not saying what my... Because because you know, I got, I think there's some areas they kind of screwed up, but they just said like, this is what needs to be done. That's hilarious. 15 minutes walk around, notice, I mean, the gag there is they take 12, 13 minutes to notice something.
Starting point is 00:59:40 And then they're like, they only got two minutes to do it. Like, got it. Still looking around, Still looking around. Still looking around. I got 15. I've noticed a couple of things but I wanna keep kind of poking, there might be something better.
Starting point is 00:59:53 It's amazing. All right. I thought we got, I think we hit our stride somewhere where we realized if we just wrote the routines, that was the easiest way. Like write it on the board, your sort of tasks? Is what you're doing Monday, is what you're doing Tuesday, is what you're doing Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Just these are the tasks. A little bit. Because otherwise you were constantly saying, you know, hey, I need you to, could you just go do this? Could you go? And they're like, oh my God, you're just going to throw that on me whenever. So it was more like, read the board. Here's the board.
Starting point is 01:00:26 These are the things that are gonna be done. This is, you know, this is yours. This is your sister's. This is whatever. Yeah. And it is LA, it's not Modesto life. So it's not like they're out mowing, I mean. No.
Starting point is 01:00:40 No, we were like, we had like chores. I pulled weeds. I picked up dog poop. Oh yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, I cleaned the toilets, I was bathrooms. That was my job in my house growing up. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yeah. I think just three boys and we were just out in the yard working. We had daily chores and then weekends were like yeah all hands on my memory is a few hours before I was free to go hang out yeah it was always my buddies making plans and then they're like you'll join us like around noon one o'clock when you're done I'm going over the canal to open up to water you'd have to let the water into the field and water the fields and... Those are real chores.
Starting point is 01:01:26 We had real chores, yeah. Did you take 15 minutes to look around? 15 minutes, just take 15 minutes to look around. Just see what needed to be done. I think in theory this is a really good thing though. It's amazing. All right, our final question. Then we're gonna let you go.
Starting point is 01:01:43 What is your favorite midnight snack? Oh, I'm gonna go with, I guess I would go with like peanut butter, oh yeah, lately probably peanut butter. Like peanut butter, if there's like a- Just straight up with a spoon? God, we have gotten to this place where we don't have a lot of, like back in the day I'd be like ice cream, but now I'm like,
Starting point is 01:02:04 I don't really do that anymore. Like, isn't that sad? You get to a certain age, you have memories of midnight snacks. Yeah. Yeah. I remember I used to eat a pint of ice cream. Now I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:02:17 That's gross, disgusting. What's wrong with you? You gotta get up and swim. Exactly. So now like we don't, like, if I think like right now at the house, the only thing that we have that I will definitely reach for is I bought a bunch of, I was in Finland working. I brought so much good licorice home. So I like reached for the licorice. But when that's gone, I'm, that's it. I'm screwed. I'm just like, oh, maybe some peanut butter and honey.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I mean, really my midnight snack is probably just like bourbon. That's my midnight snack. It's just the, it's just the liquor cabinet. The bourbon on the rocks. Yeah, exactly. There you go. Thank you so much. This was a pleasure.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Ladies, if I can call you that. You can. You can call us ladies. Ladies, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Well, we're gonna get your dates that you can travel. So when we go on the road. Exactly. Yeah, all right a pleasure. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Well, we're gonna get your dates that you can travel. So when we go on the road.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Yeah, all right. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you, Timothy. It was my pleasure. I mean, how fun. He is so funny. I know.
Starting point is 01:03:18 And Angie, you actually ended up going to his tennis charity event. I did. You know, after the interview we were talking a little bit before he left and he was like I'm serious. If you want to play you should come. He got my phone number and on my drive home he called me and he was like hey I'm about to text you all the info. I was like okay. It was the next day and lady I wore my Songs of Scranton t-shirt to represent
Starting point is 01:03:43 the office ladies team. I was paired up with Timothy's sister-in-law Robin and I played with this great group of gals and I met a lot of his family. It was very much a family affair. Plus, there were some fantastic tennis players, like jaw-dropping, amazing tennis and some familiar faces like Joel McHale. Oh yes. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I just want you guys all to know that Joel has a really good cross-court forehand. Although, and Joel, I have given him crap about this. He did get schooled on the court one or two times. Oh, did he? Okay. But that's okay. There was, these tennis players were really good. I was not in the like super good.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I was in like the medium court. Is that what they call it? Super good, medium good, not so court. Is that what they call it? Super good, medium good, not so good? Is that how they come across it? That is not how they did. They had, if you want to know, they had like 4.5s and 4s and 3.5s and I was on the 3.5 court. Okay. And 3s, but I was, yeah. So I was, 3.5 is good, lady.
Starting point is 01:04:41 That was my GPA in college. Oh, well that's very good. So it served me well there. But it was a really fun day, and thank you, Timothy, for including me and Robin for introducing me to your tennis gals. And you know, it was just a lot of great people coming together for a good cause. I will share in our stories, but like Timothy said in his interview, all the proceeds went to Center for Reflective Communities, and I'll put a swipe up so you can learn more
Starting point is 01:05:04 about it. Well, Angela, another follow-up that we should give is that Timothy did go and see Rain's production, the closing night of Waiting for Godot, and loved it. Loved it. Took his mom. Texted us to update us, which I thought was so nice. Hey, ladies, by the way, we loved it. Loved the play.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Well, a big thank you to Timothy for coming in the studio to talk with us. We hope you enjoyed this episode and thank you to everyone who sent in questions. We just love hearing from you. Have a great week. Thank you for listening to Office Ladies. Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fischer and Angela
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