Office Ladies - Second Drink: Conflict Resolution

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

This week we're breaking down Conflict Resolution from the comfort of our own closets. The baby poster returns, Jenna shares some amazing insights on the talking heads, both ladies talk about the magazine photoshoots with their cats, and we discover whose names are on those plaques hung all around Dunder Mifflin. Then the ladies wonder if 'save the dates' are worth the trouble, and we get into Michael's conflict resolution style, and we get some major Pam sass. Finally, we talk about all the hilarious pranks Jim has played on Dwight, and discuss that office group photo. This episode is definitely a "win, win, win"! Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion  Follow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPod Episode Transcript To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's better than a well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue? A well-marbled ribeye sizzling on the barbecue that was carefully selected by an Instacart shopper and delivered to your door. A well-marbled ribeye you ordered without even leaving the kiddie pool. Whatever groceries your summer calls for, Instacart has you covered. Download the Instacart app and enjoy $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees, exclusions and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. What matters most to you? Is it unforgettable adventures? Connections with lifelong friends?

Peaceful moments of reflection? Feelings of joy and freedom you can't wait to experience again and again? Or is it the vehicles that help you make all those special moments possible? Whatever your answer is, Toyota is here to bring you closer to the things that matter to you. Because they matter to us too. Toyota. For what matters most. Welcome to the second drink of Conflict Resolution.

We had a bunch of fantastic background catches in this episode. You guys are so on top of it. And I have some candy bag alts to share. I will start with a background catch. In this breakdown, we read out a list of Jim's pranks and we talk about how one of our favorites is when Jim says he puts nickels in Dwight's phone receiver to make it really heavy and then he takes them all out and then Dwight hits himself in the head with the phone. Well, we got some mail with a really fun background catch. A few of you pointed this

out, so we wanted to share. If you go all the way back to the pilot episode, you see Dwight unlock his desk drawer and inside is the phone headset. I know, that's so cool. And you all wrote in and said, that is probably because of the time that he hit himself in the head with it. So now he started locking it up so that Jim can't mess with him. I love it.

Also, do you guys remember how Pam changes her mind about inviting Angela to her wedding to Roy? Pam says she didn't have Angela's zip code and she gives her a handwritten invitation. Do you remember that? Yes. And then Angela has this talking head in the kitchen and she kind of judges the save the date.

She's a little snarky. Well, there were some candy bag alts for that talking head. We didn't share them on our first breakdown. They're super snarky and fun, and I wanna read them to you. All right. Angela has the save the date in her hand, looks to camera and says, hand delivered.

Gloating a bit, Phyllis got a mass mailing. Oh, so she felt superior that she got hand delivered. The next talking head says, Angela, in parentheses, the martyr. Obviously it means a lot to Pam, so I guess I'll find a way to be there. Next one. Oh, I'll be there, but she may have to wait

a while for the RSVP. Okay. Last one. She's been at that computer with all the address labels in it for five years and she couldn't find my zip code? She'll make one heck of a wife, that's for sure. Wow, a real variety. Well, we got a lot of mail about that save the date

because Angela, when you hold it up, it says location TBD. But in the episode Dwight's speech, which is four episodes before conflict resolution, Pam says that the wedding is at the VA because Roy has a connection there. Remember, there's a scene in the kitchen and Kelly asked Pam about it. Kelly says, why'd you pick the VA for the reception? And Pam says, Roy has a connection. It's nicer than you think. And then Ryan says, are you inviting Jim? And Pam says, of course, he's one of my closest friends. Oh, right. And then Kelly and Ryan have a look.

Yes. So here is the question. We know that Pam didn't even want to invite Angela, right? Because she couldn't quote unquote, find her zip code. Right. And then when she does give her a save the date, she puts TBD? Is Pam ever going to really tell Angela where this wedding is? Maybe not.

I mean, Pam did say, you know, it's my wedding and I don't want to invite someone who's called me a hussy. So maybe she just gives her the... Maybe she's hoping Angela will forget about it. Doesn't follow up. But I thought that was a good catch. That is a really good catch, especially since she's already said where the wedding's gonna be. Yes, four weeks ago. We also found out what happened to the baby jazz poster, which is at the heart of this

conflict and conflict resolution. So you know, the original from the set was auctioned off at that big NBC auction where they sold everything. Wow. It sold for $355. But if you really love it, you guys, there's a ton of different versions of it online. You can find it in so many places. Dazzle, Redbubble, Etsy, it's out there.

I would kind of love to walk into someone's house and just see that baby jazz poster framed above their couch. So like framed really nice with like matting and like the whole thing. Exactly. Finally, before we go, I just really loved this note from Ambus Hunter IV, who said, I am an alternate dispute resolution mediator with the Department of the Navy, and we use clips from this episode to display ways not to handle mediation during our certification classes.

Oh my gosh. The Department of the Navy uses office clips. Well, I'm glad we could be of service. Yes. And now, here is our breakdown of conflict resolution. I'm Jenna Fischer. And I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on The Office together.

And we're best friends. And now we're doing the Ultimate Office Rewatch Podcast just for you. Each week, we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind the scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you. We're The Office Ladies. Hello everyone and welcome to Conflict Resolution. I'm talking to you from my closet today. I know we're both in our closets today.

What is happening? We're both talking to each other from our closets and Sam and Cody are watching. I'm looking at Cody's cat. Love it. Sam's dog is somewhere there. This is where we're at now folks. Angela, your shirts are very well folded. Are those Josh's shirts? No baby girl. Baby girl. Are we doing that again this week? We are. Here's the thing, I've started every morning by talking to my family in Texas and Louisiana and then it just is kind of with me for the whole day. This is my closet. My own closet. I share it with no one. It is a personal life victory. Oh my gosh. I only get one side of a closet. We have one closet and I get one side and Lee gets the other. Although to be honest, I think I have encroached on about a third

of his side. Well, Josh has his own closet, but one wall of it is my shoes. This is the riveting content that people tuned in for. I know, I know, listen, but just bear with me one second. Here is a perk of not growing since like your junior year of high school. Maybe a little wider in some places, but I've had the same shoe size since I was... Angela, you're describing most adults. I mean most adults hit their peak height somewhere around their junior, senior year of high school. It's not like it's not like other people are continuing to grow four or five inches in

their 20s and 30s. Do you have the same size foot is like when you were a sophomore? Of course you do. I've been a seven and a half medium since like you know junior junior year of high school I was fully grown when I went to college. I was fully grown Oh, I unzipped my hoodie could y'all hear that? It sounded like a toot. It sounded like you tooted What? It wasn't a toot! It sounded like a toot. It was my zipper! It's good that you're claiming that you unzipped your hoodie It was! Oh my gosh, I see how it is. So we're here.

It's conflict resolution day if you can't tell. It's season two episode 21 written by Greg Daniels and directed by Charles McDougall. Action! Action! This was a really really fun one for me and I love Charles and he and I got to play a lot in this episode because guess what Angela Martin has a lot of conflicts. Should I give a summary? Yes. All right. So there are two main things that happened in this episode.

One, everyone at Dunder Mifflin is being issued an ID badge. So one by one, people go into the break room and have their photo taken for their badge. And then secondly, Michael takes the stack of employee complaints from Toby and starts trying to resolve them one by one by forcing people to confront one another at work. Yeah. So I have one little thing about this episode. So Dwight is like going on and on about how horrible the security is at the office, right? At Dunder Mifflin. Yeah. We get these badges, we never wear them again. No. Well, you know, there's this deleted scene where it's supposedly the next day

and we're all walking in in the morning and we all have our badges on. And Hank is in the scene. And Hank keeps insisting that Dwight show his ID badge and he pretends like he can't read it and then Dwight misses the elevator. So I guess we wore them once for a tag that never aired. Right. But no, we don't ever. It's, you know, it's sort of the casual Friday of it all. It is.

Right? It really is. Yeah. It really is. It really, look, Jen, I brought it back to casual Friday for you. I appreciate that. I really appreciate that. Are you going to hit me with some fast facts? You know I am.

I'm going to hit you with some fast facts. Can I get my sting? Fast fact! Yeah, that's from DDB by the way. I did not give him a shout out last week so I wanted to do that this week. He's a sound engineer who sent us that sting. Thank you so much for that sting. It does make me feel like I'm like in a 1980s game show or something. Fast facts! I love it! Alright, fast fact number one. We have a special guest star in this episode. Playing the ID badge

photographer, it is Scott Adset. Scott Adset! I love this fella so much. I've known him a really long time. He's an improv bud of mine back from the Improv Olympic days. And I was texting with him last night. I told him we were watching this episode. And he had some fun things to say. Do you want to hear him? You know I do. Scott Atzit is an amazing improviser, performer, comedian.

You might know him from 30 Rock. Also, your children know him as Baymax. He's Baymax and Big Hero 6. Ba da da da da da da. Anyway, okay, that's my Baymax, Scott. You do it much better. So here's a little behind the scenes tidbit that he shared with me

that he remembers from filming this episode. He said he remembers that Ricky Gervais came to visit set this week and everyone was abuzz. He said that Ricky seemed delighted and surprised by the scale of the production of our set and everything compared to maybe what his production of it had been like in the UK. And he said that Ricky was just very humble and sweet. Oh my gosh. I did not remember that Ricky visited during this episode.

Yeah. I mean, he popped by in and out those first couple seasons, you know, but Scott remembered meeting him and he just said that he was just really nice. Oh my gosh, that's like a fast fact within a fast fact. What? That's a double fast fact. Did I help you get a double fast fact? You did. You did. Angela, I have a fun fact within this fast fact. Both you and Scott have appeared in two episodes of the TV show, Monk.

I was in one episode, yes, and I played the murderer. Well, Scott was on seasons three and four. So between the two of you, you cover four seasons of Monk. Congratulations. That's my fun fact. Monk was so much fun to shoot, and Tony Shalhoub was the nicest. We sat on like a little bench in between scenes and he was throwing something to try to get it in the trash can. And when it hit the trash can, it made like a ping-wong and I started laughing and he started laughing.

And I said, I mean, that was kind of a funny noise. And then the two of us sat there and did our impressions of the noises of things going in the trash can like, we were such dorks and we cracked up. I don't know. He's just so fun. I just adored him. That fast fact was just chock full of fun and fast facts. That was a very full fast fact. It was a full fast fact. It was a full, fun, double fast fact.

Fantastically fun, full fast fact. Oh my gosh. Fast fact number two. Okay, fast fact number two is a fan question from Zach Akers. And here's what he wrote in to say. Why does Jim do his talking heads in front of the outside facing window, while everyone else's talking heads are inside of the window that faces the bullpen of the office. He says in Boo's Cruise and some later episodes there are joint Jim Pam talking heads in front of the outside window but neither Pam nor anyone else normally sits in front of that outside window. And then he noticed because Jim has several talking heads in this one he was like it's really prominent in this episode that Jim is there. So I thought that was a great question and such a wise observation I had to investigate. No that is a great catch. It really is. So I

emailed Greg Daniels and I asked him was this deliberate? Was this an accident? What does he have to say? And he said that it was something that Randall Einhorn, our cinematographer, suggested to Greg, starting with the pilot. And Greg absolutely loved it. He said Randall's intention here was that it didn't necessarily have to be only Jim, but the idea was that any character that had a future outside of Dunder Mifflin or held some sort of internal optimism would sit in front of a window leading out into the world. But characters who didn't want to leave Dunder Mifflin

or who maybe were in more of a position of being trapped would do their talking heads facing into the office. Wow. That's so deep. That's so deep. That's really deep. Yeah. I'm sitting here racking my brain to think of my character ever sat on that other wall

with the window facing out behind her and the one that comes to my mind, and I think it might be the only one. I'm trying to think if there's any other one. It was when you and I did Big Pregs, Little Pregs. Yeah, we did. I think it's the only time I ever sat there. Well, for a very long time,

I only sat there if I was with Jim, which was really the only possible future for Pam outside of the office. Wow, that's so deep. Isn't that crazy? But otherwise she was rather trapped in her, you know, bad decision of being with Roy. Trapped or content, you know? I mean some of us were just happy with our lot in life. Yes. Well that is fascinating and I like it. Yeah, I thought that was a good one. So thank you so much, Zach, for pointing that out

and writing in. Now, finally, fast fact number three, Angela, it's a fast fact flashback. What are you doing? What is up? Are you drunk? So here is this fast fact. This episode was filmed during May 2006. And so, Angela, my question for both of us is what were you doing flashback now to May 2006 and what were you up to? Well I had a journal entry from May 3rd 2006. This is what I wrote. I wrote that I was doing a photo shoot with my cat Lucy for cat fancy magazine. Angela Kinsey. What? Shut the front door right now. Do you know what I wrote in my journal? No. For this week of May of 2006. I did a photo shoot with my cat Andy for People magazine. I'm not joking lady. Lady, how did we not know that we did

photo shoots with our cats at this cute time? What is happening in the world? I feel like we probably at the time knew, but it's hilarious to me for us to both share our journal injuries from early May 2006 and we were both so tickled that we were taking photos with our cats. Oh my gosh. First of all, this is why we're BFFs. All right? This is why our life has very strange ways that it is parallel. So was Lucy on the cover of Cat Fancy? No, Lucy was not on the cover because she was a rescue. She was not a purebred cat, but also Jenna,

Cat Fancy doesn't let humans on the cover. So That's like it's only cats on the cover. Okay, but the cool thing was is that Lucy and I got like I think I mean I saved the magazine. I think we got like four pages. So Lucy and I are in the center I guess for the centerfold. Oh You are the centerfold of catancy magazine. So Lucy and I look amazing. There's some of the best pictures I feel like I have. How was she during the photo shoot? Well yeah I should probably give you some backstory about Lucy. Lucy loved to sleep. Oh. So Lucy did nothing. Lucy just laid there and I mean Lucy, I love her. She, RIP Lucy. She had a great long life, but she really just loved to lounge. She was a lounger

Oh, so I in many shots. I'm just laying next to her because that's like her favorite thing to do But what about you? What was your people magazine shoot like with Andy? Okay. Well Andy was also a rescue But he was a semi-feral cat. I also a rescue, but he was a semi-feral cat. I had found him, he was eating out of a dumpster back in Kirksville, Missouri, where I went to college. I think he was about five or six months old when I got him. He was just always a little,

we say he was always a little wild. He loved me and he snuggled me and he was so gentle and sweet, but he didn't love strangers in the house. And so when the People magazine guys came over, not only were they all there kind of causing a ruckus, you know, and Andy was a little bit like, I'm out of here. They wanted to do the photo shoot outside and they wanted me to hold him forget it mine was inside oh oh my gosh i'm in like full hair and makeup with this dress on they were like okay we're ready for you will you come out with andy so i'm holding andy and i think if you look in the photo you can see that he and i are both a little tense but i'm smiling super big as if i'm not tense. And I wrote in my journal,

Angela, I wrote in my journal that he clawed my stomach and I had like, like bloody claw marks in my stomach from the photo shoot because he wanted to get away. Oh, lady. I can't believe that we both did cat photo shoots in May of 2006. And also that we both wrote about it in our journals and also that our experiences were so vastly different. I I do remember calling my mom and I was so excited because I hadn't really been in any magazines ever, obviously, in my whole life. And I was like, Mom, I'm going to be in Cat Fancy.

And my mom was like, mom, I'm going to be in cat fancy. And my mom was like, what? I was like, me and Lucy, mom? Anyway, that is so cute. I love that. Now I really want to see. I remember you doing that, but now I need to see the picture. OK, well, I have a ton of makeup on, just a ton of makeup. And I'm smiling in a really weird, maniacal way. And I called my mom after that photo shoot, Angela,

and my mom was so sweet. She was like, oh, I am just so proud of you both. Just so proud of you both. She's like, just think about that little kitten that you found in that dumpster in Kirksville, Missouri. He drove all the way to Los Angeles with you onto the pages of People magazine. What a life you've given him.

That is so adorable. That is such a mom moment. Oh my Lord. I know. Well, that's it. That's the end. That was my third Fast Fact Flashback. I like it. Those were really fun. All right, guys. Well, maybe we should take a break and then we'll come back to break down this episode of Conflict Resolution. Let's get into it. Those were really fun. Alright guys, well maybe we should take a break and then we'll come back to break down this episode of Conflict Resolution.

Let's get into it. Angela Martin, I have a card for this episode and it's called The Whole Office Sass. Oh, I think I know the scene you're talking about. I can't wait. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. I just had a visit with my mom and I was kind of thinking about all the ways that she has really informed my life as an adult. And one of the things that I really admire about her is that she was always willing to ask for help when she needed it. For advocating for herself. Yeah.

Well, you know, mental health awareness is growing now, but there's still progress to be made. 26% of Americans who participated in a recent survey say they have avoided seeking mental health support due to fear of judgment. Well, this Mental Health Awareness Month, let's encourage everyone to take care of their wellbeing and break the stigma. BetterHelp is fully online. It's making therapy affordable

and convenient, serving over 5 million people worldwide. And you can easily switch therapists anytime at no cost. We're all better with help. Visit betterhelp.com slash office ladies today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp, H-E-Lhelp.com slash office ladies. The following was recorded from inside an ice plunge. Ah, woo! Okay, all right. When a core's light is cold enough,

the mountains on the can turn blue. So the next time you want a cold lager, cold filter, cold package, core's light, just wait until those glorious mountains on the can turn blue. Whoo, it's easy to say that fast when you're freezing gold. And we're back. Angela, you open up this episode.

I do. I mean, I don't think this happens very often with my character, but it starts with me very quickly at like one second in. I'm making copies on that copier and then the camera pans over to you and Kevin at reception. Angela, why didn't you close the top of the copier when you're making the copy? I'm not the only person who noticed this because Molly Nett also would like to know Angela. Probably because that copier didn't work. Really? There was always a catch to that copier. One time I made copies and I had to hold the side of it shut. I think that they didn't want me to shut it. That would have been specific.

That would have been Charles McDougall as a director, he really had his eye on everything. So there was definitely a reason to that. Either A, if I shut it, it wouldn't work, because the copier was 100 years old. Or they wanted that light that pans across the copier. 100 years old or they wanted that light that's like pans across the copier. Maybe they liked the effect. But it was a thought out thing. I'm sure of that. All right. But it wasn't like Angela Martin's like character choice. I only photocopy with a

blinding light in my face. Exactly. So after you copy with the copier open, Pam is over at her desk and she's doing her wedding planning and Kevin asks if his band can play in the wedding. But Kevin is doing something that is such a pet peeve of mine. Like anyone that walks up and starts tapping a table or thumping on something, I want to like break their fingers. It makes me crazy. You don't like that. I can't take it. Who likes that?

Who likes that? Some people are like oblivious, oblivious. Like you can like walk by and be like, and they're like, whatever. But you do that around me and I'm like, what is your problem? You know what I don't love? Whistling. Oh, people who walk around just, yeah,

yeah, I can't. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Whistlers. All right. So we find out that Pam did not invite Angela to her wedding. And this is because she doesn't want anyone there who's called her a hussy. Angela, in the background of my talking head where I'm talking about you calling me a hussy, you're eating in the kitchen.

At 45 seconds, you seem like you are really eating. Were you hungry? Guys, check it out 45 seconds Angela is scarfing down whatever her food is in the background. In the scene they let me eat a bagel. I was really excited whenever I got to eat something like that I was like yeah I'll eat that whole bagel. Give me some cream cheese butter. I'm here. That's the cold open right? We come back, the episode opens with a Michael talking head and Phyllis getting her photo taken and this is the scene where we find out that

everyone's being photographed for their new ID badge. Yes and in the deleted scenes if you get the DVDs for this, this is a particularly great DVD. So disc 4 in the DVD set disc four has commentary. It has deleted scenes. It has a blooper reel. It has fake PSA's we did. It has Olympic promos we did. It has the accountants, the Webisode series, which won an Emmy. Yeah. So it's got this is a very good disc.

Jenna and I make no money off this. I'm just telling you, if you're an office fan, this is a very good disc. Jenna and I make no money off this. I'm just telling you if you're an office fan, this is a great disc. But there was a deleted scene that I thought was really interesting. It was a Michael talking head and it kind of sets up the whole episode. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. In fact, I also just want to say before you explain this, I thought that the deleted scenes from this episode played like a mini episode. Did you find that? Because they start with this, like what you're talking about,

they start with this amazing talking head for Michael. Exactly. So Michael is talking about how, well, one of the things is he hates it when people have something wrong and they won't tell you what's wrong. And he says, my dad would do that all the time. And I would look at him and I'd say, dad, what's wrong? Dad, what's wrong? Dad, what's wrong? Dad, what's wrong? I would do it over and over and he would just look at me like I was an idiot. That's what he says. Poor Michael. And then he also has a scene with Ryan where he is saying that it's just another kind of boring day. Nothing's going to happen. And he's talking about how on Big Brother,

they tackle really important things, you know, every week. But I guess that's not real life. And he, you can tell that Michael wants to feel accomplished in this day. He wants to feel like he made a difference. Well, I think that deleted scene is a great way that we motivate Michael's whole desire to take over the conflict resolution in the office for the day. Because now in the next scene, Ryan is in Michael's office

and he hears Oscar yelling from the conference room. Oscar is going off. I know the beginning of that scene, the stuff that they're overhearing Oscar saying, Oscar's improvising. Because they were like, OK, just make a big fuss. They'll overhear it, and it will cause them to leave Michael's office, right?

Go see what the hubbub is about. And Oscar's a very funny improviser, and he got to have some fun in this episode. Oh, all those lines are amazing. Michael goes into the conference room, and he sees Oscar is with Toby, and he is ranting about Angela's baby jazz poster. That Toby gave her in the Secret Santa Exchange at Christmas.

Yes. She has hung it in accounting, and Oscar doesn't want to look at it anymore. And he's furious. And Toby's like, listen, you normally wouldn't hear this ranting. Normally we do it in the break room, but they're doing the security badge photos in there. So we're doing it in here instead. And this is Michael's opportunity.

He has found his purpose and this is it. He's so excited. He decides he's going to resolve this conflict. So he calls Angela and Oscar into the conference room and Pam, apparently Pam had to attend. Pam gets pulled into so many things with Michael. It's like he needs her to document it in some way. I don't know. But I'm not writing anything down.

And you hardly ever are. No, it's so true. you hardly ever are. No. It's so true. He just likes to feel important. He likes to feel like he has a personal assistant. Yes. I like how quickly he produced this poster board that says, communicate this binder.

He's had this. He has been waiting. He has had this. He's ready to go. But you know what I think, Angela? I think corporate gave him this binder a long time ago to look through and study and he's never cracked it open until now. Oh yeah. He was like I can't be bothered with this binder and now suddenly he's ripped it off the shelf. We had a

fan question from Aidan Maggia. You know we go through the different styles of conflict resolution. And Aiden wanted to know, did it ever mention in the script what the number two and number three resolutions were in the five different styles of conflict? I don't know, but I know what the five are. The only one that's referred to in the script that isn't listed in this scene is compromise. So the five types of conflict resolution are lose-lose, win-lose, compromise, win-win, and win-win-win. So they're really, Michael's really keyed in on a win-win-win because then even he wins. Yes, we know lose-lose is number one, and then Angela just wants him to just skip to win-win, and he goes, that's number four.

But then I love Steve's performance so much when he starts to read number five. And here's the thing that Steve is doing. He's reading something and making it look like he's never read it before, and that he's getting surprised as he reads it. Yes. Even though you and I both know he knew those lines backwards and forwards. So he's like, oh, number five, win, win, win. Oh, I win. I win too because I resolved it. And it's just he's so good. Just in that very like small moment.

You see how great he is at finessing all of these little moments. I love it. They should play that in acting schools as an example of moment of discovery. All right. So at 4 minutes 32 seconds, they go over to, quote, look at the disputed poster. Michael wants them to express their feelings. And I say that the poster makes me happy because it makes me feel like the babies are the real artists that God has a funny sense of humor.

And Oscar at five minutes, two seconds just goes off. And he has this rant. It was so fun to do this with Oscar. I have known him for so long. We performed together in sketch comedy. So I knew when they told him he could uncork what that meant. And it was just a it was a delight for me when he was like, you know what? It's it's kitsch. It's the opposite of art. It destroys art. It destroys souls. It just goes on. Was that improvised or scripted Angela or a mixture? It was a mixture. It

was a mixture and I think that was mostly scripted but his stuff with Paul, with Toby in the conference room at the top of that scene was improvised. But Oscar is just so funny in this and I just remember it was hard to keep a straight face. I remember that. I had you to my right and Oscar to my left. It was very hard. It was very hard for me because Pam doesn't have any lines. And my direction was that I was not to react. I was to remain very neutral as possible. And so that was difficult to be neutral. All right. Well, we had a fan question from Zoe Kennedy. What do you guys think a win win win solution to Oscar and Angela's dispute with the baby poster would be?

Because, you know, Michael's win win win solution is that Oscar will turn the baby poster into a T-shirt T-shirt he has to wear because then he won't see it. But Angela will see it all the time. Yes, and neither of them like that. They're like, neither of them like that. So what would you make it be, Ange? What's your win-win-win? I would say that you could have personal items that could fit on your desk. And as long as they weren't offensive, they could stay on your desk. I like that. You shrink it down to like no bigger than an eight by 10. And then she could put it on your desk. I like that you shrink it down to like no bigger than an 8 by 10.

And then she could put it on her desk and that would be my win win win. Angela, that is a great solution. You set a new rule that personal items can be no larger than 8 by 10. Just that's it. Everyone. You heard it here first. You're welcome, corporate America. You heard it here. All right, so moving on, what is next? So Angela, we got a really cool fan question about this scene from Mari-Sailor Kabuto and I loved it so much, I reached out and I asked her if she would send me

a recording of her asking the question. So here it goes. When Michael is trying to solve the Angela Oscar dispute, they are all standing in the accounting area. On a column behind Michael, there is a certificate of participation for a Mark Christie. Who is that? I was so excited to get this question, Angela.

So this moment happens at 4 minutes 32 seconds. And right next to Steve's head on this pillar, reception is behind the pillar, you can see this plaque. It's exactly what Maricela described. It is a certificate of participation for Mark Christie. This is one of my favorite things about our set. Okay, so Mark was the best boy grip and the key grip for seasons one through three on The Office. And it's the art department that is ultimately responsible for any kind of card, sign, certificate or logo that's created specifically for the show. So our art department created the Dunder Mifflin logo and they created all of the little plaques and signs and certificates that hang around the office.

And in an effort to give just like a fun personal touch, they would include the names of real crew members. Yes. So for example, we also had a Salesman of the Year and a Humanitarian of the Year plaque. And those plaques featured our crew member names as well. But really, you can see them everywhere. You'll start to notice them as you watch episodes. I do now, I look for them. There are tons that are just sprinkled throughout the whole office.

Well, let me tell you what my favorite one is. Okay. Okay. So my favorite one involves our first AD, Kelly Cantley. You guys might remember her. Kelly, her job is keeping all of the actors on schedule. She makes sure that we arrive for our scenes when we're supposed to. And she is also the one who would run our safety meetings.

Yes. So Kelly Cantley was safety meeting, lit candle on set. That's Kelly Cantley. We have a pair of scissors in someone's hand. Safety meeting. Yes, exactly, exactly. But Kelly really had to keep the whole production on time. Everything happening on the set, all of us working together

and getting our day done, making our day. She's by far one of the most important elements to running the show for sure. Well, I guess that Kelly had gone around and looked at all the plaques and she noticed that her name was not on any of them. I could kind of picture Kelly doing that, actually. She spent a couple of days sort of doing this bit where she was all like, oh, I see. No, no, Kelly Cantley. There's my name is on a plaque. It was very funny. And then all of a sudden, one day,

a new plaque showed up. It's on the pole over by Stanley's desk. And here's what it said. It said, whereas it came to our attention that Kelly Cantley was whining that a lowly second assistant director had a plaque with her name on it. And whereas Kelly Cantley made a comment on the air regarding that fact, we have decided to give her this certificate because we love her. So fun. And so and then they just waited for her to notice it. And then it stayed there for the rest of the run of the show. So guys, something fun to

do. You can go through, try to hit pause whenever you see these certificates and you can see some names of our crew members. I think it's just a really, really great way to honor them. And this is actually a very popular thing that happens on sets. Yes. All right. I think it's just a really, really great way to honor them. And this is actually a very popular thing that happens on sets. Yes. All right. I love that question. I love hearing the behind the scenes of our crew. But Jenna, it's time to get into the save the date. Yes. Six minutes, 28 seconds. We get a real bird's eye view of this. Well,

Pam has broken down and is giving Angela a save the date hand delivered. We have a fan question from Ms. Lavender Darling. She said Pam's save the date invitations say place TBA. Why did she bother making a save the date with a location? TBD. TBD. When I looked at the save the date, okay, first of all, Angela's throwing shade.

She's like, it's hand delivered, but it's okay. But it's also not my taste. So she's throwing a lot of shade. But I screen grabbed the save the date and it says save the date and then written in hand. So, you know, it's printed, but then you've got to fill in everything by hand. It says for the wedding, Pam Beasley to Roy Anderson,

date June 10th, place to be determined. This save the date gives us nothing. Everyone in the office knew it was gonna be June 10th because Roy announced it drunkenly on Boo's Cruise. We know it's between the two of you. This save the date is pointless. Yeah. It's a waste of time.

It's a waste of money. Kind of like their wedding. Oh my god. Can I get an Angela Sass please? I did it. Angela Sass. There it is. I agree with you Angela.

I think that these rather lame, handwritten, save the dates are a waste of time. Did you do save the dates for your wedding, or did you just send an invitation? Well, you know, I did just an email save the date. Yeah. I did an email. Yeah, that's a little bit where we are now.

I think I'll say I did a save the date, a hard copy save the date thing, I think. Why? It's a waste of time. I don't know. It's a waste of stamps. It was like etiquette back then. Way back then. No, but it's true. I think there's a lot that has changed. I remember getting in a huge argument with my mom about wedding planning because in her generation, the bride planned the wedding with her parents because her parents paid for the wedding and it was like a party they threw for the bride and groom. And I said, I want to plan my wedding with my husband, the person who's going to be my husband. Like my mom wanted to pick out our registry items with me.

And I was like, that feels so weird to me that I would go with my mom to pick out my dishes. Wouldn't I go with the person who's going to eat off the plates with me to pick them out? But there was like a generational divide in like how these things are done. And I feel like this is going to point to like another generational divide. Like remember when you used to send these paper save-the-date or even these paper wedding invitations. Nowadays, I get invited to weddings all the time where it's all online.

I get an email and then I click on this website and the registry links are there and the RSVP is there. And it's like all there and it's actually kind of awesome. I like a lot of it that's online now. It makes it very easy to find information, but I still like getting a hand proper invitation. I don't need to save the date. I don't need a little card with directions. I don't need a little special card that lets you know if I want to eat chicken or the pasta, but I like getting the paper invitation for some of my dearest friends. I've saved them. I don't know. I also am a little bit of a pack rat as we know. I scrapbook. So I like getting the actual paper

invitation myself. I can be with you on that. I really like getting a paper thank you. Yeah. Like a thank you card in the mail. That's nice. As opposed to for a big event like a wedding. I don't need like a paper thank you if I gave you a birthday present or something. But if it's a big event like a wedding, I think the process of a couple sitting down and writing out their thank you cards is a really nice tradition. And I think it is, hmm, what's the word I'm looking for? Proper? I feel like you're, if you're giving like, yeah, like you're, the significance of a wedding gift deserves the significance of a handwritten thank you card.

I can, I can go with that. I can go with that. Well, Angela, I have to say that for being an episode about conflict resolution, we just did not have a conflict about that. We were in total agreement. We talked that out and we agree. You also liked my resolution for the jazz poster. So we're finding some common ground here. Yeah, we're really resolving things.

So there you go. We're on, we're on brand. All right, let's take a break. I'm going to get a snack. All right, we're going to take a break and we will be back. We're gonna take a break and we will be back. Anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. See app for details. Thursday, May 8th is McHappy Day. When every menu item purchased at McDonald's helps support families with sick children. So you can feel the good that comes from doing good,

just from ordering. So if I order a Big Mac, I'm helping. Yup. What about a McFlurry? 10 piece chicken McNuggets and apple pie? You got it. Every single order helps. Join us at McDonald's for McHappy Day on Thursday, May 8th.

Do good, feel good. A portion of food and beverage sales will support RMHC chapters in local children's charities across Canada. Craving an escape? Bring the vibrant flavors of Mexican street eat energy to life in your kitchen with Tia Rosa Tortillas. Born in Mexico, Tia Rosa knows how to turn your next taco night at home into the real deal. Find Tia Rosa Tortillas at select grocery stores and get the good vibes going.

Tia Rosa, Tia Rosa. Okay, we are back from break. We have discussed Pam's very lame save the date. Yeah. And now Michael fresh off his, I guess his win, win, win with Oscar and Angela decides he's going to demand from Toby that he be given all of the unresolved complaints, all of them. And he takes them from Toby forcibly. He says, quote, I had to use win-lose on that. It was not pretty.

Yeah. But now he's got them and he is gonna start resolving conflicts. He's just gonna stir the pot. That's what he's gonna do. At seven minutes and 40 seconds, Pam is in the conference room with Michael and they're going through all the complaints.

And I have to say, and in this scene I really liked the callback for Stanley with miracle whip. Did you hear that one? Yes. The complaint that is from Kevin that Stanley keeps using his miracle whip without asking, which is a callback from when Jim was doing that Stanley impression during drug testing. And he, his bit was, I like the tangy zip of miracle whip. Yeah.

Yeah. I love that. Um, so also there's something else that I think was pretty fantastic. If you love a really good eye roll, you need to go to eight minutes, 35 seconds. Angela, I wrote it down too. There is a Pam I roll to end all I rolls. It is substantial. It is. Well, Michael has gone into the bullpen to ask people if they feel like Toby really solved their complaints or if they

were merely listened to and forgot about and he starts reading all the complaints out loud. And that's when I wrote down major Pam I roll SAS. Some major Pam SAS right there. And so then there's this thing I remember laughing. I remember breaking in this at 8 minutes 53 seconds. Michael says, oh, and there's a Phyllis Angela dispute. And I say, you already did me. And he goes, that's what she said.

And Jim mouths it as Michael says it. Yeah. That was scripted. That was not John improvising. That was a scripted moment. And the camera sort of pretends like it's going to find John doing that. It's really great.

I think that's a great example of the choreography with the camera. The discovery moment. Yeah, exactly. We also find out some interesting information about Dwight and Angela. Yes. Which is we now have a timestamp because for six months Angela has been complaining about Dwight and that that was all redacted for the last six months. Yes, all of Angela's complaints about Dwight were redacted six months ago. Six months. I'd love to read what some of those complaints were. Well, we know one of them. One of them has to do with safety officer. I'm sure she filed a complaint about that. I'm sure all of her complaints are just based on who is really in charge of this or that. But now Michael just starts listing things off and he's one by one getting

everyone pissed off at each other. Everyone is getting angry with each other. Pam first volunteers to save Angela because it seems like it's going to be revealed to the office. If anyone thinks real hard on this that, hmm, why did Angela redact all of her complaints? Only Dwight. Yeah, only Dwight. So Pam volunteers, but there's only one complaint against Pam, and it's been withdrawn.

And this was the complaint. Does she have to plan her wedding on office time? Can't she do that from home? And Pam assumes that it was Angela who complained about her. Pam totally glares at Angela and Angela's like, what? What? Like, and I believe her. I believe her. Well, yeah, she didn't complain about her. No. Yeah. But I think it's reasonable for Pam to assume that she did. Well, true, because Angela, I I think has the most complaints of anyone else

Yes in the complaint box. This is true, but you're right Then Michael goes around and just starts throwing out all of everybody's complaints We have to point out that at 10 minutes 53 seconds. We have an Angela Pam Partition scene. I love it these were some of my favorites and we we didn't get to do very many of them because we would laugh and we would ruin take after take but here it is you and I over the partition having a heated conversation. Yes Pam goes right up to Angela and says thanks for ratting me out. I know you're

so ticked off. Oh I'm mad. Fan question from Colleen Keenan and Brittany Magert. They both asked, was Pam calling Dwight Bobblehead Joe scripted? Because I say, you and Bobblehead Joe. I know. They want to know if that was scripted. It was scripted. It was scripted.

But guess what? Here's a little window into Pam. When she gets mad, she starts name calling. I guess so. Can I get a, Sam, could I get a little Pam sass here? Pam sass. Thank you. Yeah, that's appropriate.

Pam sass. Because Pam keeps sassing. She sasses right into the kitchen and is complaining to Jim about Angela. And Jim's kind of like, oh, I don't know. He doesn't know. You know what I wish? I wish we had a sting that said, Jim shade, because he gives you some shade.

He's like, oh, and what does Roy think about that? And she's like, well, I don't really talk to Roy about this. And he's like, about your feelings and stuff. Yeah. Jamshade. I like it, Angela. I like it. Well, now we move into the conference room.

Angela, can you tell us about this scene with you and Phyllis with Michael? This scene was really hard because Phyllis and I got tickled. We got tickled. But yeah, so here, Angela and Phyllis are added again. Now, in the bullpen, when Michael calls out Phyllis for having a complaint on Angela,

she's like, I don't know what you're talking about. Angela and I are friends. But then Phyllis just starts turning on everyone. There's a deleted scene. That's also pretty great. So yeah, so Phyllis clearly, I guess, has been parking in the parking spot where Angela likes to park. Even though they're not named parking spots, we don't have individual spots. But clearly, my character likes to park in the same spot every day, and

Phyllis has been parking in it. And I'm ticked off, so I complained complained and Phyllis is like I'm sorry I guess I forgot I parked in the spot you liked even though we don't have a signed parking but then at the very end she goes I don't like you I know and in the deleted scene she tells Dwight she doesn't like him hmm I think that's some Phyllis sass Phyllis s sass. That one's hard. It's a lot of it's like it's a lot of s's. This is when we're gonna find out that Ryan thinks Creed has an old man smell and Creed is like oh yeah oh yeah I know what he's talking about. I grow mung beans in my desk. They're really nutritious, but they smell like death. I texted Creed last night about it. And? Does he eat them in

real life? I said Creed, you're on my TV right now talking about the mung beans in your drawer. And he said, I still talk to my mung beans. Oh Creed. And he said, yeah. He said, I was eating mung beans exactly. That's exactly what it was. Wow. I said, how do they taste? And he said, they taste like grass and air mostly. Grass and air. Not really like death.

Well, Angela, I looked up mung beans and it turns out that they are really good for you, especially the sprouted ones. Oh, the sprouted ones have fewer calories and more amino acids and antioxidants than unsprouted ones. Let me tell you some benefits to eating mung beans because I know you're curious. I can't wait. So they've done some studies in animals that have shown that mung beans helped to reduce cholesterol Okay, we're not doctors. I'm just a woman on the internet. So anything I say here right now

Yeah, she's just a woman talking to you from her closet. A little disclaimer, but they also seem to be a good source of potassium, magnesium, protein and fiber But here's the catch. If you are sprouting mung beans properly, and you let them drain, and then you rinse them off after you've let them soak, they won't smell. Only neglected mung beans stink. So Creed had some neglected mung beans in a

stusk. And that's why they smelled so badly. So anyway, I guess I just want people to know that if you've ever been curious about sprouting and eating some mung beans, they won't be stinky if you just care for them properly. According to the internet, I'm not an expert. And according to Creed, they taste like grass and air. So there you go. All right. Kevin has been making sexually suggestive comments to Angela that make her uncomfortable. So Michael suggests that the solution is for Angela to make sexual comments about Kevin that will make him uncomfortable.

First of all, Kevin Gross, once again, we have been tracking Kevin's perviness. Is that a sting? Kevin perv. Our whole podcast is just gonna be stings. It's gonna be like Angela Sass, Kevin perv, Pam Shade. Okay, now we're back in the break room. We're back to making our IDs and our badges, right? And at 13 minutes, 11 seconds, my stepson Jack, it's one of his favorite talking heads,

where Dwight said he would never smile in a photo because that's a sign of weakness. And so he's never going to smile in a photo, which just cracked us up. Jim is making this oversized ID badge for Dwight. He's playing a prank on them, you guys. This is classic Jim, right? And he put Dwight's middle name as on them you guys. This is classic Jim, right? Yeah, you know put Dwight's middle name is fart Yep, and he says he's a security threat. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, we had a fan catch by Molly Torres She says at 14 minutes 42 seconds

there is a close-up shot of the prank ID badge that Jim made for Dwight and his title is Assistant to the regional manager. But he had been promoted to assistant regional manager in season two, episode six. This is another layer to Jim's prank. Yes, so it goes unmentioned in the episode, but yes, another layer to the prank badge is that he gives him his improper title.

That he loves to do. Yes, that's right. Well, it's at this point that Dwight storms over to Toby. He's had enough. And he finds out that Toby has just been putting his complaints about Jim in a box. He has not been registering them with corporate the way he said. Now Dwight is furious and he goes marching in to find Michael. And he says a line that I love, four years of malfeasances.

Yes. Yes. And he says, I cannot work with Jim anymore. One of them has to go. Michael has to pick by the end of the day. Yeah, he is officially furious. And you know what? This is all coming back to bite Michael in the butt

because Toby said, just let him vent. And then I file it and I never do anything about it. And they got to vent and that's that. And now it's all catching up with Michael. He realizes that Toby probably had the right idea. Yes. Well, Dwight goes online and starts looking up jobs at other branches. And Dunderpedia had a really great list of all the jobs that are available. At 14 minutes 56 seconds, if you pause on the screen, here are the jobs that are available within Dunder Mifflin. Are you

ready? At Stanford there is a plant manager and a sales manager position. The sales manager position requires three to five years of experience and a bachelor's degree and there is an IT manager position available at Stanford. Here's my question. Isn't Josh Porter the, oh, is he the branch manager? He's the branch manager. Well, within our office, I guess, Michael is the branch manager. Who's the sales manager of Scranton?

Probably, I mean, I don't know. Like Stanley? I would think Stanley because he's a senior. Yeah, he's been there a while. Yeah. But that's a job we don't ever really talk about. We never discuss. Yeah.

So I just thought that was interesting. Well, in New York Dunder Mifflin, they've got a position for maintenance engineer. In Albany, they need a comptroller and two regional managers. And in Buffalo, you can't read what it is, but they need someone. And Scranton has two positions available. Well, here's the thing. For a company that's downsizing and on the verge of collapse, why are all of these job openings? What's up? Thank you. That too. But listen to the jobs that are available in Scranton.

Warehouse staff and warehouse manager. But isn't Darryl the warehouse manager? Is he looking to leave? What's happening there? What's the story? I don't know. I don't know because he is the manager. After this Michael calls Dwight and Jim into the conference room and he goes through a list of Dwight's complaints. And this is my favorite part of the episode. It's so good. And one of them made me laugh so hard. All right.

Here are the list of pranks that Jim has pulled on Dwight that Dwight has reported. Ready? Okay. Yes. Ready, Jenna? Go. Number one. Number one, he replaced all of Dwight's pens and pencils with crayons. Number two, he had everyone call him Dwayne all day, which by the way, Jenna, by the way, guess who would sometimes call him Dwayne? Who? In a scene. Who? Oscar. He did? For real. For real, there were scenes where he'd be like, listen, Dwayne.

I'd be like, Dwight. It's Dwight. And he'd be like, ah, crap. That is so funny. Somehow it went into Oscar's brain in real life. OK. Well, Jim also placed a bloody glove in Dwight's desk drawer and tried to convince him that he had committed murder.

Yes. Number four, Jim told Dwight there was an abandoned infant in the women's room. He went in to save the child and saw Meredith on the can. Yes. This one is my favorite of all time of any prank ever written about on The Office. It's just a sentence. We never see this play out, but my imagination of it is so rich. Dwight says he hit himself in the head with his phone. And Michael is like, what? How could that

have been Jim's fault? And then Jim in his talking head. And John's reaction, he laughs. He says that he put nickels in Dwight's headset over the course of a long time so that it got heavier and heavier. And then one day he took them all out so that when Dwight answered the phone, it would be super light. That is brilliant. That is brilliant. Greg Daniels. Yeah, clap. That is brilliant.

And that is Jim doing the slow play. That is, that's I think why I like it is the patience required for that prank. All right. There's more. Go. The next one is that every time Dwight typed his name, it would just say diaper. Diapers. Yeah. And then the last one is that by the end of the day, Dwight complains that his desk was moved two feet closer to the copier. And Jim admits that yes, every time Jim got up from his desk, he moved it a little closer to the copier.

But then Jim was like, well, when you when you put them all together like that, it doesn't sound really cool. Yeah, he's like, oh, that sounds like maybe my life is gonna suck. Yeah, maybe I suck. That's what I spent my time doing. At 16 minutes 39 seconds, I have a card that it just says, a montage of sass. Oh, it's your montage of sass. It's a montage of sass. We see Phyllis, she slams the fridge door on Angela. Pam is glaring, eating yogurt, angry, eating yogurt, angry eating yogurt. And then you have like Creed and he's looking crazy and he's holding a pencil like it's a knife. And I mean, then it just goes all through Stanley and Kevin and Kelly and Toby, everyone is ticked off.

Yeah, everyone's just mad. It's a mad montage. It's a sass montage, really. It's a montage of sass. It is. Well, at 18 really. It's a montage of sass. It is. Well, at 18 minutes, we have a fan catch from George Felton. Okay. Dwight's ID badge has been redone.

His middle name is correct. It says Kurt. But you know what? If you look closely, he's still listed as a security threat. He didn't get that removed. Good catch, George. I liked that. There is a deleted scene where Pam shows Jim her ID badge,

and her clearance level is red. Yeah. And Jim's like, what does that mean? And Dwight's like, I'm not going to tell you. Also, Pam doesn't seem to know what it means either, which I thought was very funny. All right, so guys, it's the end of the day and Michael thinks that the way he could really boost everyone's morale after this hard day of resolving conflicts is to get a group photo. He wants a group photo.

Stanley's like, are you kidding me? Like, seriously? So he gets everybody to stand, but a lot's happening. Like no one's smiling. This is when Jim tells Pam that he's the one who made the complaint against her about the wedding thing. And how awkward. He was just venting. Oh my God, so awkward. How awkward he's having this conversation during a group photo of his coworkers.

And you're like sandwiched between Phyllis and Stanley and Phyllis is listening to everything. Her reactions are amazing. So good. She literally says, oh dear. Yes, yes. I have a fan catch, another fan catch from Carly Mitchell. You know how earlier you were mentioning how your stepson Jack loves that talking head where Dwight says he doesn't smile because it's a sign of weakness and primates? Yeah. Guess who's smiling in the group photo? Who? Dwight. Dwight? Yeah. Dwight what are you doing? Fan catch by Carly Mitchell 18

minutes 50 seconds. He's smiling. You know what? I feel like this is like layered, like emotionally for Dwight because he would not smile on his own, but he will smile for Michael. And that is his weakness. Michael is his weakness.

Oh, yeah. Well, I have a Jenna catch. Okay. For this group photo moment. You know, Michael says it's really hard to get a photo of 15 people. Yeah. He says, that's really hard.

Guess what? There's only 14 people in the photo. Ha ha ha ha. Jenna Ketch. Jenna Ketch. Ha ha ha. There you go. I love it, I love it. Well, and it's true.

He never does get a photo. So he Photoshopped the group photo. He says it's amazing what you can do with Photoshop. And that's how he gets his group photo. And as you guys know, because we've shared with you, Greg then gave that photo to us all as a gift. And I have it. I will put it, I will hold up the photo of it next to me

and put it on the website. So then this episode ends. It's kind of sad. Pam is checking her voicemail and she gets this voicemail from Jim saying, you know what, I'm not gonna be in until the afternoon tomorrow because I have a doctor's appointment in the city.

But then we see what he's really doing. He's meeting with Jan at corporate. Yeah. And you know, he's probably going to apply for that job at the Stanford branch. He can't take it anymore. He can't watch her plan her wedding anymore. It's getting to be too much and it's heartbreaking. Yeah, he's gonna move on. The very end of this episode is an amazing little tribute to Raiders of the Lost Ark. It is.

Where we see Toby putting this box of complaints in a wall of complaints, like with the forklift and the whole thing, it's very Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes, we had a fan ask, Cole Edwards wanted to know, at the end of the episode, when we see Toby put that box of complaints in the warehouse, was it an homage to the end of Indiana Jones? It was.

Yes, it was. And you guys, just for fun, if you're out there and you're going to re-watch it, go to 11 minutes, 43 seconds. Toby's company ID photo is my favorite. What is it? He sits down and he just says, just take the picture. And he gets up and walks away. Oh, yes. He takes it right as he walks away.

Yes. Yes. It's pretty amazing. Angela, before we wrap up, we had a fan question from Devon Couch. Was there ever a baby poster shirt? And did Oscar ever wear it? I went through all the deleted scenes and didn't see one, but do you know? No, I don't believe there was. I don't believe it and I would have loved it. That would have been a fantastic callback years later if we had just seen him in that

shirt one time or maybe like when Angela had to move in with Oscar, maybe she found the shirt in his closet, something. But no, I don't have a memory of that. But that would have been fantastic. I agree. I wish that we owned the rights to that picture because I would buy that shirt. Would you buy it and wear it? Maybe.

Why not? Why not? Why not? It's such like a, it would be such a fun inside joke, I think. You are wearing a hoodie right now with your own image on it, so. Office ladies? It's office ladies. I always wear my office ladies hoodie

when we record office ladies. It's like a uniform. It's my little uniform. I like a uniform. I went to a Catholic girls high school. Yes, you know. I am kidding. Of course you like the structure.

You like uniform. You like order. How about that? Yes. Order. Love order. Yeah. Feel very safe in order. There you go. Chaos. Terrifying to me. Terrifying. All right. You guys, this has been conflict resolution. We hope you enjoyed it. Thanks for listening in to us in our closets. We hope you're staying safe and we're sending you our love. We're sending you our love. Thanks guys. Next week, we are gonna be back with,

oh, Ange. Oh, lady. Casino night. Lady, lady, lady. And a special guest. So tune in for that. Okay. Bye. Bye. Thank you for listening to Office Ladies' Second Drink. This episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwulf. Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by

Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey. Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins and our audio engineer and associate producer is Daniella Silva. Odyssey's executive producers are Jenna Weiss-Berman and Leah Reese Dennis. Office Ladies is mixed and mastered by Chris Basil. Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.