Office Ladies - Second Drink: Take Your Daughter to Work Day
Episode Date: April 14, 2025This week we're breaking down Take Your Daughter To Work Day, so let's keep it G-rated, okay? The ladies give some background info about all the child actors on set that day and chat about Stanley's d...aughter flirting with Ryan, and Pam's struggle to befriend just one kid. Then the ladies give history lessons on Shaggy Peter and the Green Sleeves song that ends in a fun revelation, and we get an update on Game of Thrones. Finally, we discuss Brunetti's Pizza, and hit up Kentapedia (Kent Zbornak) for the low-down on that Fundle Bundle video. Now the kids have left, you can now safely go back to being your HBO No Limits-selves. Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPod Episode Transcript To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hi there, and welcome to your second drink
of season two's episode, Take Your Daughter to Work Day.
Well, lady, I went back to our mailbag,
like all the way back to the folder that we had
for when this episode of the podcast aired.
And I looked for any letters
about Take Your Daughter to Work Day
that maybe we hadn't answered.
Great.
I mean, this is all the way back to 2020.
I love it.
And let me start with a fan mail flurry,
because after this podcast aired,
I had really wondered if Jitters, the coffee shop,
was a real place.
Well, Katie N wrote in and said, I'm
listening to the Take Your Daughter to Workday episode.
And yes, Jitters used to be a thing.
I grew up in Boulder City, Nevada and that is what we had pre-Starbucks.
There was also one at the local community college in Henderson, Nevada.
Not sure if they ever made it to Scranton, Pennsylvania, but I hope that gives some closure
to Jenna's 40-minute hunt for nothing.
And Francesca B. said, there is a Jitters coffee shop in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
I don't know when it was established, but the coffee is great and it's very cute.
We also got a letter from I Am Not Your Uncle Steve, who said, Jitters was a real place
in the Steamtown Mall.
It was on the corner of the food court and eventually became a candy store.
Oh, so it was in the mall.
I guess it was.
And then finally, Ms. Rainshuttle said,
My friend's husband's family used to own Jitters.
Oh my gosh, you found the people.
But the mall refused to renew their lease and replaced it with a Starbucks.
Oh.
But I have to just say thank you everyone because when I was revisiting our breakdown of this,
I was reminded that I spent a very long time trying to find out if Jitters was a real place
and I appreciate knowing.
Yeah. Well, you guys also sent in some fun background catches for this episode.
I love a background catch. This one from Teresa W is fantastic. Yeah. Well, you guys also sent in some fun background catches for this episode.
I love a background catch.
This one from Teresa W. is fantastic.
Okay, so listen, you might remember that we had been tracking Angela and Roy,
and we had been looking for signs of their romance.
And I also loved how Teresa started her letter.
Ready?
Okay.
She wrote, okay, okay, okay, Get ready for your mind to be blown.
Eight exclamation points.
You guys are tracking Angela and Roy.
At around 15 minutes of the Bring Your Daughter to Work Day episode, when Roy is wrestling
with Meredith's kid, it zooms out to Jim and in the background is Angela watching Roy wrestle and smiling.
I think that Angela sees how strong Roy is and is pleased with him.
I think she also sees how fun he can be and Angela is kind of attracted to that.
I mean, I have no doubt that Angela was delighted watching Roy wrestle, be kind of a dad figure.
I think she was into him. You know, did Angela have more lovers on the show than anyone else?
I don't know.
I was thinking about this the other day because she is so judgmental of Pam.
Pam, the office mattress?
Exactly.
But the truth is, she dated a lot of folks and a lot of folks in the office.
It's true. It is true.
Andy and Dwight, but also the senator.
Yes.
Am I missing someone? I feel like there's someone I'm missing.
The senator wasn't in the office.
No, true. But I don't know.
Well, she did say that she's had more than one set of men duel over her.
Yes, exactly.
Another background catch comes from Basma K. Basma says,
Toby does something interesting in the background at 11 minutes and 26 seconds,
and then again at 11 minutes and 30 seconds.
He's in the kitchen, behind the window blinds, quietly watching Michael give a tour of the office
to the kids
as Creed begins to take off his shoes. I just thought Paul was hilarious in that scene.
You know, one of my favorite things about rewatching the show is watching little
background moments like this. Because we were always just filling the moment with our reactions to things.
And you really can't see them all the first time you watch.
So I loved this.
Thank you for pointing this out.
This was very, very fun.
Well, I noticed that we didn't talk much about the deleted scenes in this episode, and a
lot of them have been added back to the Peacock superfan episode.
My favorite is a new cold open conference room scene.
Angela, you are trying to set the menu for Take Your Daughter to Work Day. You have to hear it.
I think five plain and one veggie should be fine. How about pepperoni now? I like extra cheese.
Absolutely not. I like extra cheese too.
No. I like extra cheese.
Absolutely not.
I like extra cheese too.
Fine.
The first lesson we'll teach the children
will be about obesity.
And then you can't really hear it,
but under his breath,
BJS Ryan goes, thank you.
Cause he's gonna get the pizza he wanted.
The other two deleted moments that I wanted to flag,
they're real heartbreakers actually.
The first one was pointed out by Logan T. Who said, I don't know if you noticed this or not, but in Boys and Girls,
Pam is drawing a picture that you can see at 14 minutes and 54 seconds. And then it comes up later
in a deleted scene of Take Your Daughter to Work Day when Kevin's girlfriend's daughter sees that
same picture on Pam's desk. Yes., well Kevin's fiance's daughter, Abby,
is played by Greg's daughter, Hayley.
Yes!
So in this episode, Pam is desperately trying
to bond with a kid, and at one point,
Abby comes up to her desk to get some candy,
and Abby and Pam have this little exchange
when Abby notices this drawing.
Let's listen.
Did you draw that?
Yeah.
Do you like to draw, Abby?
Yeah, I wanna be an artist when I grow up.
Me too.
You are a grownup.
You are a grownup.
I know.
This is the truth out of like the mouth of babes.
Yes, yes.
And then there was also a tag at the end of the episode
that is new in the superfan episode.
It shows Michael continuing to watch the footage from the children's show.
Remember earlier we see part of the children's show
that Ryan had to go to his mom's house to get the tape.
But the only part we see in the episode,
as it originally aired, was the part where little Michael
is being very awkward and he's saying he wants
to have 100 kids so he can have 100 friends
so no one can say no to being his friend.
But in the footage at the end, little Michael
is seen performing magic for the other kids
and he's making them laugh.
And then at the end, a little girl comes up and whispers in his ear and he smiles like
she's maybe flirting with him.
It is so touching.
And this is one that I really wish lived in the original episode.
It is such a tender moment.
And just again some of the things I'm loving in these new little nuggets that
Dave Rogers is so carefully crafting.
Yes.
Finally, I just wanted to say thank you to my fellow Luby's lovers out there.
You know Luby's, the cafeteria I would go to with my grandparents.
Oh, you talk all about it in this episode.
I know, I know.
Well Tyler M. from Wichita Falls, Texas.
What's up Wichita Falls?
I mean, you know I know Wichita Falls? I mean, you know, I know Wichita Falls.
I mean, we went there all the time.
Tyler says, my great grandparents always took me to Luby's
any time I was with them.
Tyler, I bet we were there at the same time.
Probably.
Tyler says, my heart was warmed hearing Angela rave about it.
I got super ecstatic hearing her even just mention Texoma.
And next thing you know, she mentioned my hometown.
And Diana K said,
growing up in San Antonio, I ate there all the time with my grandparents. It was clearly a
grandparents go-to. We would meet them there at the same location on Sunday afternoons following
church and it was the highlight of my week. I loved getting my own tray and picking out whatever
I wanted, including dessert and feeling so grown up. Now when I visit, I try to eat at one at least once. Woohoo, Texas girls unite!
I love those. Well, listen, thanks everyone for listening and please enjoy our breakdown
of Take Your Daughter to Work Day.
I'm Jenna Fisher.
And I'm Angela Kinsey.
We were on The Office together.
And we're best friends.
And now we're doing the Ultimate office rewatch podcast just for you.
Each week we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind the scenes
stories that only two people who were there can tell you.
We're The Office ladies.
Hey.
Hello.
If you have a daughter, you can take her to work today.
Yes.
It's Take Your Daughter to Work Day.
To Dunder Mifflin.
Season 2, episode 18.
This one's written by Mindy Kaling and directed by Victor
Nellie Jr.
Victor Nellie.
Second one he's directed.
Yes, prolific TV director.
He's fantastic.
We really liked him.
He was so nice.
Should I start with a summary?
Jenna, you know that's how you start.
I know.
Just do it.
I should just do it in order.
I like every week though that you ask me.
Every week you're like, should I start with a summary?
Like what if I was like, no, not today, lady.
What would I do?
I don't know.
Would I listen to you or would I just do it anyway?
You'd probably be during headlights.
You know what?
Try it some week and we'll see.
Okay, I will. But not this week. You told me to do it. Do it.. You'd probably be during headlights. You know what? Try it some week and we'll see. OK, I will. But not this week.
You told me to do it.
Do it.
Here I go.
In this episode, the Dunder Mifflin employees
bring their daughters to work for the day.
Stanley brings his teenage daughter,
who starts crushing on Ryan.
I mean, she's just a version of Mindy, right?
A little bit.
A little bit.
What is it about Ryan?
The ladies love Ryan.
I know.
Kevin brings his fiance's daughter.
Right.
Meredith brings her son and Toby brings his kind of shy five-year-old daughter who ends
up bonding with Michael.
Also in this episode, Pam makes it her mission to befriend just one kid.
Just one.
Yeah, we learned that Pam is not good with kids.
Apparently not.
All right, should we do our fast facts?
Why are you asking me?
Because that's part of it.
Yes, do them.
Part of doing the fast facts is me asking you
if I should do the fast facts.
Yes, Trina, you should do your fast facts.
Fast fact number one, we got a lot of questions
about the kids in this episode.
So let's break them down one by one.
Stanley's daughter, Melissa, was played by Jazz Rae Cole.
Okay.
And she is a professional actress.
No relation to anyone on the show.
We hired her.
She was also on the sitcom, My Wife and Kids.
When she shot this episode, she was 17 or 18 years old.
So her birthday is in February.
And I think that's right around the time we were shooting.
And I have this memory of her telling me
that she had just turned 18.
When I first came to Los Angeles,
I was in my twenties, but I looked like I was a teenager.
Right.
And so I had this special agent who would send me out for roles to play high school
kids.
Because when you have a kid on a set, they have very limited work hours.
They have child hours, according to the union rules.
And so they can't work as long of days.
They have to take these breaks.
There has to be a tutor who teaches them school stuff. So if you
look older than 18, but you can play a kid, this is like a little niche market.
I was in 90210.
Oh my gosh, Angela. No, you were not.
I was in 90210 and I didn't have lines. My biggest moment though was when I played
Tori Spelling's Sororityhuh. And we were collecting votes.
I think they were going to vote some girl out of the sorority.
And I collected the votes, and I had to hand them to Tori.
Whoa.
Yes.
So I remember.
I remember it like it was kind of cool if you could get parts
like that because you could work longer hours
and you were older playing younger.
I got to be in the movie Pleasantville with Toby Maguire and Reese Witherspoon.
That's a good one.
Uh huh.
And I got to work a whole week, which was really exciting.
I was just a featured extra.
Me too.
When I was the sorority sister, I was the featured extra.
Yes.
I was a featured extra in Pleasantville because I was over 18 to play under.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
I love that.
Toby's daughter, Sasha, was played by Delaney Ruth Farrell.
Now here's a little interesting tidbit about her.
She was the daughter of our set dresser, Sean Farrell.
So you maybe remember, we had an establishing shot
of Toby's desk a while ago, where he explains
that he's divorced and he has a daughter.
And there is a picture of a little blonde girl.
He says, this is Sasha.
That picture was placed there by Sean of his daughter.
So when it came time to do this episode, we kind of had to use her.
Wait, so did Sean just sort of make that happen?
Yeah.
Sean just put a picture of his daughter
on Toby's desk.
Well, she's very cute.
So cute, and she was so good.
She did great.
Not an actress, just daughter of our set dresser.
Yeah, and she's going to come back again in Family Portrait
Day.
OK, so now Meredith's son.
Meredith's son is hard to say.
Meredith's son.
You guys, Jenna has tried it three times.
I have. Meredith's son, Jake guys, Jenna has tried it three times. I have.
Meredith's son, Jake Palmer,
was played by Spencer Daniels.
No relation to Greg Daniels.
Nope.
Wikipedia, you're wrong.
Okay. Did you hear us?
Fix it. Okay.
Maybe that was somewhere else.
I read that.
Dunderpedia.
Maybe it was Dunderpedia.
One of the pedias is saying that Spencer Daniels
is Greg Daniels' son.
He is not.
Not the case.
Now Spencer is also going to come back in season 8, episode
24, Family Portrait Day.
Fan question from Curly Haired Tess and Hannah Bercel
and Lisa Farr and many others, was Meredith's son
played by the same actor when he came back
as the stripper for Angela's
bachelorette party in season nine? We'll get there, but that's one of the most uncomfortable
moments of my life. Yes, it's the same actor. Yes. Oh, oh, ah. Yes. Yes. Same guy. And he's still
acting today. So he is a professional actor. That wasn't for him as a person.
It was just that he's just a young boy.
We met him when he was a boy.
And then when he was a man who stripped at your fictional bachelorette party.
And then finally, there was Kevin's fiance's daughter, Abby, who was played by Haley Daniels,
who is Gray Daniels' daughter.
Yes, Haley is so, so sweet.
Yeah.
And she did a great job.
So good.
She's not an actor.
Not an actor.
She did such a great job.
She had to be very deadpan, and I thought she was hilarious.
Fast fact number two.
A lot of people ask, what was it like to do an episode with all these kids around?
Now, what did you remember about that, Ange?
Well, I mean, Haley was in our little accounting
nook quite a bit, and I just wanted
to make sure she was good.
Yeah.
I think I just want to make sure she was like,
do you need to go to the bathroom?
Do you have snacks?
I just sort of became that person.
Yeah.
But obviously, when kids are in an adult work environment,
you do change your behavior, or you should.
Sorry.
I remember we got a little lecture about it.
Yeah, oh.
We got a little talking to.
We got a little talking to, actually.
At the beginning of filming.
Yeah, at the beginning of filming.
Just like, hey guys, there's gonna be kids on set.
Let's just mind our manners today.
And actually when Michael and you have that scene
in the cold open where you're like,
Michael, I talked to you about this.
That actually reminded me of whenever
we had people visiting the set.
Yeah.
Whenever, sometimes families would visit the set.
They would win like some type of visit
and a whole family would come.
And a lot of times our AD, Kelly Cantley would be like,
hey, everyone heads up, young children.
Keep it G rated.
Not that we were like a body group, but, you know, it's like a group of adults all day.
I feel like when there weren't kids around, though, there was quite a bit of cursing.
There were. Yes, that's you know.
So there were adult words that there were adult words.
But besides that, we weren't.
Yeah. Super like weird or inappropriate or anything.
No, but our scripts were half the time. That's true. Half the time there were things that
were said within the context of a script where I'm like, oh. Yeah, that's true. Okay. All right,
fast fact number three. This was sent in by a fan. I loved this. Thank you so much, Kelly Nudo.
in by a fan. I loved this. Thank you so much, Kelly Nudo. She tipped me off to the fact that Fundle Bundle, you know, the little TV program that Michael was on as a child in
this episode, it was inspired by a real local children's program in Scranton called The
Land of Hatchimalatchee.
Oh my Lord. I love that. Yes, it was a little program for kids
that started in the 50s.
It ran for almost 25 years.
Local.
Local Scranton.
Yes, it featured songs and appearances by kids,
just like our version.
It was originally hosted by a woman named Nancy Berg,
who was referred to as Miss Nancy.
And then it was hosted by Miss Judy,
who was played by Lois Burns.
I don't know why they called her Miss Judy
when her name was Lois, but they did.
And of course, in our version, we had Miss Trudy,
who was played by actress Sue Nelson.
And Edward R.
Meow.
Yes.
But this was really sweet.
Lois, who played Miss Judy, was interviewed recently about her time on the land of Hatchi
Malachi.
I just love Hatchi Malachi.
Hatchi Malachi.
Hatchi Malachi.
Sorry.
It just makes me laugh.
I know.
Okay.
What did she say about the land of Hatchi Malachi?
She said that their goal was to make sure that every kid knew they were important.
I love that. I love that little tidbit. Thank you, Kelly, for writing in because that is like,
I don't even know how we would find that. No, that's so great. That's not on any of the
websites that I usually go to for research. For the deep dive? Yeah. So thank you. She's over on Office Ladies Pod, over on our Insta.
She sent me a message.
Oh, that's so cool.
Thanks.
All right, those were some really good fast facts, lady.
High five.
Oh, high five me.
That was Jenna and I high fiving.
It was.
It's kind of awkward
because we have to reach across the table
and use your microphone.
And I always worry about your cards.
Don't mess up my cards, lady.
All right, let's take a break
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All right, we're back.
Let's start breaking down this episode.
We open with a Pam talking head.
Yeah, she explains that it's take your daughter to work day.
And she says,
I'm not actually great with kids, but I want to get better because I'm getting married.
So she's going to put out lots of extra candy on her desk.
Lots of candy. She got like a potted plant. Did you see that? That was like a
last minute store graph. There's like all of a sudden a plant.
No, I did not notice that.
I have a little thing for my background pals.
All right.
At nine seconds, freeze frame,
you're gonna see over your shoulder,
it's on the accounting side.
Okay.
The Uncle Sam.
Do you remember the Uncle Sam?
Oh yeah, why did we have that guy?
It was a doll of Uncle Sam.
Yeah.
He had the 4th of July hat on, he had a flag.
You could hit a button,
and I think he would play
Yankee Doodle Dandy or something.
Raa, da, ma.
I don't know.
It sat there.
When did he show up?
From the beginning?
I think he's there from the beginning.
I mean, I have a memory of him
cause like I would turn around to go and talk to you.
He's what I would pass first.
So the first time I turned around, I was like,
oh God, history of Uncle Sam is a common
national personification
of the US federal government.
According to legend, it came into use during the war of 1812
and was supposedly named for Samuel Wilson.
Who was Samuel Wilson?
Well, I'll click on him.
I'll tell you.
Where are you reading this?
Is this Wikipedia?
Wikipedia.
Samuel Wilson was a meat packer from Troy, New York,
whose name is purportedly the source
of the personification of the United States Uncle Sam.
Kind of looks like a-
It's going in a circle.
It is going in a circle.
It's going in a circle.
I need to know more about meatpacker Sam.
Meatpacker Sam.
Anyway, that's Uncle Sam.
He sat over my shoulder for nine years.
I think I'm gonna spend more time on that
after the podcast is over.
So if you want more Uncle Sam facts, I might bring them to our candy bag.
Okay, bring them to the candy bag.
So I noticed something for kind of the detail folks.
At 21 seconds, the candy on Pam's desk is suckers and lifesavers.
Lollipop things.
Yeah, it pretty much stays that way.
However, in the previous shot at 10 seconds,
there's a bowl of lemon drops, a bowl of Starburst,
and a candy dish full of jelly beans.
And then those are gone, and then there's lollipops.
Yeah.
Candy continuity!
Candy continuity.
What happened?
And then I hold up bags of even more candy,
which is none of those things.
It's like Jolly Ranchers.
Yep.
I know. Fan question from Michelle Monge.
Did Jenna get to decide what candy was sitting at reception?
No.
I'm going to say no.
They just gave it to me.
But she also wants to know how often did you guys eat it?
A lot.
I ate a ton of that candy all the time.
Everybody did.
I would get sick.
People would walk up up and you would think
they were coming to talk to you,
but they were just coming for candy.
It's true.
I remember you would sometimes be like, oh, hey.
And then it was just like,
like digging in the candy bowl.
I don't remember you eating a lot of it.
Do you have a sweet tooth?
I don't think of you as having a candy sweet tooth.
No.
No.
I don't.
We're different that way.
We're different.
I do. All right. So now Michael comes
out of his office and Pam explains that he cannot be nasty today because kids are coming.
Name's Pam. Miss Beasley if you're nasty. Oh, I'm sorry. Are you having a wardrobe malfunction?
Janet Jackson. You're like, no, stop it. Shut it down, Michael. Shut it down.
Shut it down, Michael. Shut it down.
So Michael is very annoyed.
He has a talking head.
He says, why is he going to be held back today?
He's like Eddie Murphy in Raw.
He is HBO.
No limits.
No limits.
And now we're asking him to be Eddie Murphy in Daddy Daycare.
No.
I mean, why are we doing this to him?
I don't know.
I mean, I love that he thinks of as his workplace, as like a place where R-rated content is...
Should be.
That's where it happens, is at work.
He's like a human resources nightmare.
He is.
So Pam convinces Michael to welcome the kids.
He comes out into the bullpen.
He tries to welcome them.
I don't know, he really is not into it. He's not into it, but he tries to compare it like,
let me put this in kids speak.
Oh, I should compare myself to a superhero.
And so he's like, I'm like the, you know, guy,
I'm like Superman in Gotham city.
And it's the one time, like this happens so rarely
when Jim and Dwight are both on the same page.
They're like, that's Batman.
And he's like, ugh, fine, I'm Aquaman.
But it's like Jim and Dwight were actually like together.
It's true.
For one moment.
For that one moment to correct Michael.
Yeah.
Okay, can we just talk about how cute
the little girl that plays Sasha is?
Yeah.
And when Paul, as Toby walks her through the kitchen
and then Dwight's like, hello, tiny one, you are the future. Just Dwight's idea and how he sees children,
it just made me laugh. I think Toby seems like a really good father in this episode.
I do too. Yeah. He has the most kind of warm parental instincts of all the people that we see
parenting in this episode. I agree. I think Toby's a great dad. Warm parental instincts of all the people that we see parenting in this episode.
I agree.
I think Toby's a great dad.
He might be a little sad, but he's a great dad.
So now we go to the scene in accounting
where Kevin is explaining his file cabinet to Abby.
Oh, man.
She's thrilled.
She's thrilled.
I mean, he's showing her the file cabinet,
but there is a giant vat of M&Ms.
Yeah.
Like, why doesn't he just say, do you want some M&Ms?
At two minutes, 30 seconds, we had a fan catch.
Okay.
Fayelle123 says, Angela has a dog photo on her side of the partition.
Angela, she is not the only person who noticed this. Michelle Sexton also noticed.
We got two emails about this dog poster on your partition.
Michelle wants to know, what does the sign say?
I tried to look at it and I couldn't tell what it says.
Okay, well, actually there's a great screen grab of it
at 44 seconds.
Oh, okay.
The dog is actually holding up a sign
and it says, will love for food. Oh, okay. The dog is actually holding up a sign and it says, will love for food.
Oh.
And I think it's like an adoption
or like food donation or something for animals.
Do you remember this going up?
Why did it all of a sudden appear on your side of the petition?
Yeah, it wasn't normally there.
And I will tell you guys this.
I don't know specifically why this one went up
at that moment, but I can tell you sometimes
Matt Zone, our B camera operator, or Randall Einhorn, A camera, would need to be shooting
and accounting, and they were quite a bit for this episode.
And that glass partition would make a glare.
And so sometimes they would strategically put a little piece of paper of some kind on
the glass partition to sort of block
the bounce of that glare.
Oh, so that they wouldn't get their own reflection
on the glass? Yeah.
Yeah.
And so they did that sometime.
So all of a sudden I'd sit down to do a scene
and I'd be like, what is that?
Where are all these papers?
Yeah, and it would be to sort of block that glare
and them being able to see the camera or the boom.
Oh my gosh, so the dog paper was a glare blocker.
I think the way they were shooting to catch Abby
through the partition and Kevin, there was a glare.
And so they put that up.
They would often do that.
And then that's when I would have random signs
on the partition.
And you know that Kevin and I, I've said this before,
of everywhere in the bullpen were the only desk pod
with a partition.
Yes.
And you know, my backstory for this is
I think Angela Martin requested it
cause Kevin's disgusting.
Well, next we move to Kevin's talking head
where he just says he really hopes
that Abby doesn't look on his computer.
Why is Kevin such a perv?
This is the second time he's worried
about what's on his
computer. I mean, Kevin, did you learn nothing after email surveillance? I know, but also-
You didn't scrub your computer after that? Also, Kevin, just stop being gross.
All right, so now Stanley introduces Michael to his daughter, Melissa.
Oh, man. She's wearing some headphones. Michael says, wow, how do we explain what Michael says?
He says she's a stone cold fox.
Yeah, and to keep the frat boys away from her.
And then she says, I'm in eighth grade.
Yeah.
She's a middle schooler.
Oh, Michael, that was really awkward.
This moves us into Michael's talking head where he says, this is a quote that a lot of people
emailed about. He says, it's not that children make me uncomfortable, it's just why be a dad when you
can be a fun uncle? And a lot of people thought that this was a continuity error because we've
heard so much about how Michael wants a family and wants to have kids and they were saying,
why does Michael say that he doesn't want to be a dad?
Oh, no, he's not saying that he's, he's compensating for the fact that he's not a dad.
He's just giving himself a pep talk. Yeah. All Michael wants to do is have a family for sure.
For sure. And I think in this moment, he's just like trying to put a good spin on where his life
is at for himself. I think so too.
Yeah.
I think so too.
It kind of made me sad
because you know that's not really where his heart's at.
Oh, well.
Just wait.
I know.
It gets sadder.
I mean, I sobbed twice during this episode.
We'll get to that.
At three minutes, 31 seconds,
we meet Jake, Meredith's son.
Yeah.
Meredith's son.
Meredith's son, a hard thing to say.
He was suspended from school. He's kind of a rascal. That's son. Meredith's son. A hard thing to say.
He was suspended from school.
He's kind of a rascal.
That's a nice way to put it.
I know.
I wrote a different word.
It rhymes with smashmo.
But yeah, he's just not nice.
And I'm like, I mean, he's like throwing things at people.
Yeah.
He's like a name-caller.
Insulting people. I know.
His shirt.
Did you see what his shirt says?
Yes.
It says something like, I have already forgotten your name.
Yes, that's what it says.
I mean, Meredith.
Meredith.
Why are you letting him walk around with that on?
Yeah.
Okay, so the next scene I love, it's three minutes,
44 seconds.
We're in the conference room.
We're setting up for something.
It looks like there might be a party aspect to the stay.
It's you, Kelly and Ryan.
Kelly's helping me put a tablecloth on
the conference room table.
I just want to say, remember in the Christmas episode
when Pam is not helping you put it on?
Kelly is also not really helping you put it on.
Anytime there's a party, I totally relate to Angela
because you guys are a bunch of jerks that don't really help.
I have a feeling that every time we try to help you with that tablecloth, you yell at
us.
I don't think so.
And that's why we're not helping you with it.
I don't think so.
You probably nitpick how we're doing it.
Why does no one help you with the tablecloth?
Because you're a bunch of slackers.
Nope.
You're a bunch of slackers.
Because you'll say, you're about to shoot down a child.
And so I'm just saying.
Anyway.
This might be why it's all on you.
She's trying to set up for this party.
Ryan and Kelly aren't helping.
No.
Kelly's looking at Ryan.
Ryan's like, don't look at me.
And I'm in the meantime like, eh.
Anyway, Toby walks in with Sasha, his daughter.
And she very sweetly says, can I help?
So sweet. So sweet.
So sweet.
Angela's like, no, no.
I'd have to explain everything to you, but no.
And then Kelly, I look at Kelly and I'm like, no.
And I love Paul's delivery of like, well, I
didn't see it going that way.
Yeah.
He's like, it's not what I was expecting.
That's not what I was expecting.
Yes.
I love that scene. Kelly was so excited. She's like, I love babies. Not what I was expecting. Yes. I love that scene.
Kelly was so excited.
She's like, I love babies.
I can't wait to have babies.
Ryan is really funny in this episode.
BJ is great.
He has some really funny moments.
And he's just like, basically, Kelly, just her idea
of hooking up is just having babies with me
as soon as possible.
Well, his talking head, he's like, Kelly and I
agreed we were just going to have fun.
But what I'm realizing is that fun for Kelly means getting married and having babies as
soon as possible with me.
So that's her definition of having fun.
And don't hook up with anyone like that on February 13th.
That's right.
I like your line in this scene, Angela.
I get quoted this a lot.
When she asked me if I would like to have kids and I say, well, maybe some small, well-behaved
boys.
Yeah.
So weird.
Small, well-behaved boys.
Small.
I don't want big boys.
Apparently, I want tiny, petite boys.
All right.
So next up, Michael is on the phone to corporate and Toby's daughter, Sasha, walks in.
Yeah.
Then she leaves, but then she comes back later
and starts playing with his toy train.
They're so sweet together.
So sweet.
Michael's so tickled.
He's having such a great time with her.
I know, they do the train whistle.
And he really, Steve, when we were filming that,
Steve actually kept making the kids crack up.
Do you remember that?
I remember how hard it was for Haley to keep a straight face
and Delaney too, Steve was cracking her up.
It was really sweet.
But we had a couple fan questions about that.
Katie Procedo said, I always love episodes
where we get to see Michael interacting with kids
because you can just tell that Steve Carell
likes being around kids.
He's a great dad.
He is.
And Beth White said,
is Steve really this good with kids in real life? Yes a great dad. He is. And Beth White said, is Steve really this good with kids in real life?
Yes.
He is.
He is.
He is.
The kids were so tickled by him.
He's a sweetheart.
And we should say, you mentioned earlier, Angela,
how families would sometimes come and visit.
Steve was such a great ambassador for the show.
He would always go into our green room
and meet the families and take the kids on a little tour and show them his office. Take pictures. Yes. Well, I think now Pam is going to
try to get Abby to help her shred some old documents. Shut down. Pam gets shut down.
No, Abby's reading on the couch in reception. But then Jim says, hey, I've read that book.
the couch in reception. But then Jim says, Hey, I've read that book. They have a little banter.
They bond?
Yeah. Abby agrees to help him with sales. Now, I want to say something here.
Okay. I feel a soap box coming.
It's tiny. It's a very, it's a small opinion.
Okay.
Observation.
Okay. Observation. Okay. Jim knows that it's Pam's goal to befriend a kid, but rather than help her bond with
Abby, he just kind of shows off and steals Abby away.
I think this is hurt feelings Pam talking because-
But did you notice?
I mean, I thought that was a little bit of like.
Passive aggressive?
I don't know what it is, but it was a little bit of like,
come on, it's not that hard, I can do it.
Like, like Jim.
Watch me bond with a kid.
So it's like a competition.
Oh yes, it felt a little bit weirdly competitive.
Hmm, okay.
Do you not see that?
Well, I guess I do.
I guess I also just thought Jim was being really nice.
No, he knows Pam's goal.
And I think if he were really being nice
at the end of that whole spiel,
he would have said, and Pam, why don't you join us?
Or he might've said, do you know who else loves books?
Pam?
Yes, yes.
This is what I'm saying.
He doesn't help facilitate anything.
He just comes in and shows off.
Maybe it's not his job to help Pam.
It is.
It is his job to help her.
Pam is not his responsibility.
Pam is getting married.
He's ticked off.
See, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what's underneath it.
See, before they got in all these little fights and all the wedding date was set, I think
Jim would have facilitated.
Maybe.
But now he's like, boundary Jim.
Now he's like, I have boundaries.
I don't help you anymore because I'm not your fiance.
Also, maybe I'm practicing self care, Pam.
Wow.
See what side you're on.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Here we go.
Well, let's talk about how Dwight is doing with the kids.
Okay. Let's.
Abby is hanging out with Jim and Jim's doing that thing where, you know, she's shaking his hand.
He's like, oh man, you're crushing me.
Oh wait, I watched this with Isabel.
And so when Dwight's like, you're not even, she's not that tough.
I'll show you.
She's like, what is wrong with Dwight, Mom?
He's so literal.
He is. He is childlike himself.
It's true. It's true. And then after that, Merida's son comes over to Dwight's desk and
starts touching all his bobbleheads.
Hold up. Where's the Dwight bobblehead?
Well, Melinda Maggercuth would like to know that as well.
Seven minutes, one second. Where is Angela's gift to Dwight?
Thank you, Melinda. I am hoping, Melinda, that Dwight saw all those children there and
feared for its safety and with loving care locked it in his drawer. He has one drawer
that locks. It's on the left side of his desk and I hope it's locked there for safety.
You know what? Let's say that that's where it is. During this scene, Meredith's son refers to Meredith as Meredith.
And Dwight is Mr. Poop.
Yeah.
He's being a jerk.
He's being a jerk.
And Jim and Abby laugh.
Oh, they think it's so funny.
They're like, now they're like totally in cahoots.
I loved when Sasha goes up to Phyllis and says,
are you Mother Goose?
Yes.
We were also tickled by that when
we read it at the table read.
I remember I laughed so hard at that observation.
If anyone should ever be cast as Mother Goose, it is Phyllis.
And Phyllis's reaction, though, is so brilliant.
And so Isabel and I were watching it together.
So we went and we wanted to see
what a picture of Mother Goose looked like.
Does it look like Phyllis?
It looks like Phyllis.
100%, 100%.
You're showing me a drawing of Mother Goose
and it looks like Phyllis.
And she's even like wearing purple.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I know, Phyllis was wearing purple in the scene this
whole episode. I wondered if they sort of looked at photos. She was always in purple.
She was in purple a lot. If you went to Phyllis's house and looked in her closet, it would just
be purple outfits. And lots of like beaded jewelry. Yes. Always some beaded necklace.
Okay. It's so true. And I just realized.
What?
You kind of took your daughter to work.
I did.
Oh, cause she watched the episode with me.
So she watched it with you.
Yes, I guess I did.
You took your daughter to work
for Take Your Daughter to Work Day.
For office ladies.
Yeah.
I did.
That's kind of sweet.
That's so funny.
All right, seven minutes, 53 seconds.
We're back in the kitchen and Melissa and Ryan are talking.
And Melissa's like, so I thought it was really funny
in sort of the way they wrote her eighth grade brain
to try to impress Ryan is that she just drinks coffee all day.
Yeah.
The ice, matcha latte, whatever, all day.
Yeah, she can't get enough of them.
Yeah.
Ryan, you're such a dork.
You haven't been to Jitters?
Oh my god, give me your phone number.
He's like, ugh. Yeah, speaking of Jitters at Steamtown Mall. So Steamtown Mall is a real place.
Yeah, we've been there. The center of the city of Scranton.
Yeah. I could not find a Jitters today or in the past. I spent a good 40 minutes looking for it.
Well, that's 40 minutes of your life. You're never getting back.
I'm never getting back. But guys, if there is or ever was a jitters, will you let me know because Jenna needs that 40
minutes back. I just need to validate. Yeah. Validate that 40 minutes. Well, during this whole
conversation about jitters in the kitchen, Kelly is vicious. Kelly is the type of gal that if you step on her territory,
like her man's space in any way,
she's gonna burn you to the ground.
And she does.
She decimates Ryan.
She goes and tattles immediately to Stanley.
She points, she was like,
I have something fishy going on over there.
I don't know, they're talking a lot.
I've been watching them all day.
Yeah.
And Stanley is pissed.
Okay, this leads us to the scene
that we got more mail than any other scene in this episode.
Okay.
The scene when Stanley confronts Ryan in the break room.
This was called out as many people's favorite fan question
from Chris Johnson.
How many takes did it take to get the Stanley Ryan scene?
I tried to text Leslie.
We need to get Leslie in here.
We do.
I tried to reach out to him.
Hopefully we'll hear back.
He's traveling right now.
He's traveling.
OK.
So I know from the bloopers, because there are great bloopers
on YouTube of this, that he completely like made BJ lose it.
Oh yeah, season two bloopers at the three minute mark.
I watched it as well.
Okay, Stanley is letting Ryan have it.
Leslie improvised a ton, that whole thing with like,
Jesus isn't gonna help you,
none of them are gonna help you.
He was fantastic in that scene.
And now we're going back to the conference room
and Dwight is playing the
recorder for the kids and he's got this on the table. He's got corn husks and plates and cups
ribbons and things. There's going to be some kind of crafting project. Yeah. I had a fan question
from Laura. Okay. Rain's recorder playing is top notch. Did he really play the recorder or was it
added in later?
No, he really played that.
Yeah.
He played the bassoon in high school.
Yeah.
He plays the recorder again in the bird funeral.
Yes.
When Pam sings along.
Mm-hmm.
So Rain is recorder proficient.
He is a recorder player.
Yeah.
He is.
Now, he's also reading a book.
Wait, wait.
Before we get to that.
Oh. hold up.
This is big.
This is one of my biggest cards of this episode.
What is it?
Might not be saying much.
This is a big card for me.
He finishes playing the song and he goes,
that was Green Sleeves.
It's an English ballad written about
the beheading of Anne Boleyn.
Okay, so you know I did a term paper on Anne Boleyn.
In college?
I love Anne Boleyn, no, in high school. Oh. Yes, in high I did a term paper on Ambalin. In college. I love Ambalin. No, in high school.
Oh.
Yes, in high school.
Senior term paper.
But I looked up Green Sleeves.
Okay.
This was fascinating to me.
Sorry about to geek out on you guys a little bit.
There is a persistent belief that Green Sleeves was composed by Henry VIII for his lover Ambalin.
Here's what really threw me for a loop.
Ready? Yeah. There's this other me for a loop. Ready? Yeah.
There's this other interpretation of the lyrics.
Ready?
Yeah.
Lady green sleeves was a promiscuous young woman,
even perhaps a prostitute.
Okay.
At the time, the word green had sexual connotations,
most notably in the phrase, a green gown,
a reference to the grass stains on a woman's
dress from engaging in sexual intercourse in a field somewhere. Green is kind of horish.
Green is kind of horish. This justifies that whole line for Angela Martin. I freaked out.
I was in my That's What She Said and I'm like, green is horish. I'm sure my neighbors are like, what is happening?
Lady, green was like a dirty color.
Great find, Angela.
Thank you.
That is some deep diving, historian type work.
On the internet.
To prove a reference line from the office.
Well done.
Thank you.
I give you this.
Thank you.
I give you this.
Thank you.
I want to give you that.
I take that.
I take that.
All right.
So also in this scene, he is reading a book called Struwell Peter.
We had a fan question from Tyler O'Donnell.
Was the story that Dwight reads the kids a real folk tale or was it something the writers
made up?
Gang, it's real. It's real.
Loosely translated, it means shaggy Peter.
It was a German.
What?
That sounds dirty.
Don't wave your shaggy Peter at me.
It sounds inappropriate.
It does.
Okay, so it's a story about shaggy Peter.
I went out last night and this guy had such a shaggy Peter.
Jenna. We're gonna get the E.
All right.
Okay, so.
It is a German book of cautionary tales for children.
All right.
Okay, written by Heinrich Hoffmann in 1845.
Now, I found this fascinating.
Heinrich Hoffmann wanted to get a Christmas present for his
three-year-old son. Okay.
And he could not find a good children's book. I'm sorry, Heinrich.
So he wrote his own. He wrote it himself. About Shaggy Peter.
Yes. He wrote Struwellpeter. Struwellpeter.
And it was so sort of popular, I guess, among people that Heinrich knew that it was eventually
published.
Let's cut off their thumbs.
Yeah, exactly.
It's in the story.
Here's a super crazy fact.
What?
In 1891, Mark Twain wrote a translation of this book that he called Slavinly Peter.
Slavinly Peter.
Yes, which was published, but not until 1935,
25 years after Mark Twain died.
And you and I are gonna write our version
called Shaggy Pete.
There are 10 stories in this book.
So in addition to the thumb sucking story that Dwight reads the kids, which is true
and in the book, there is also a story about a little girl who plays with matches, accidentally
lights herself on fire and dies.
Then there's the story of a boy who doesn't want to eat his soup for dinner.
He holds out for five days and then starves to death.
And dies.
Do all the kids die or get maimed?
No, not all of them.
Some of them live through their rebellions.
But are forever like?
Sort of maimed or sort of just, you know.
Not the same emotionally.
Kind of, yeah.
Well, that's fun.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
So that's the book, it's real.
Well, we really get a window into Dwight and Angela's
childhoods in this episode.
Oh yeah.
I mean, Dwight grew up reading these stories
with his grandmother.
Yes.
And then Angela is like,
listen, my father was a strict disciplinarian,
so you better whip these kids into shape.
That's right.
So they are a perfect match. I say it over and over. That's right. They are a perfect match.
I say it over and over.
They really are.
They really are.
At 9 minutes 47 seconds, we do pan to the table where Dwight has laid out supplies to
make corn husk dolls.
No one ever makes them, but the supplies are there.
We had a fan question from Lauren Page, who actually made the corn husk dolls that Dwight plans to make with the kids?
Was it Phil Shea?
I would say Phil Shea.
It was Lauren.
Phil Shea was responsible for all of those items
on the table.
Phil Shea is a jack of many trades.
Like he really had to do a lot.
He does.
I just love it that now our questions come in
with like specifics. Like, am I spotting a Phil Shea moment?
Yes, Lauren, you're spotting a Phil Shea moment.
I think we should take a little break because Michael is about to give the kids a tour of
the office and I think that deserves its own space.
Right.
It's really sweet.
It's sweet.
Let's take a break.
Take a break.
All right, we're back. We got some food. There's a bagel bar. Angela's eating an everything bagel.
With as much butter as I could put on it. Don't judge me. What? Don't judge me.
Okay, we won't judge you
because we can't understand you.
I love butter.
Okay.
Angela, before we get started,
I wanna take a moment
because I feel like there's something I have to say to you.
Is this like a, do I need a glass of wine moment?
Like, is it that big of a moment or am I okay with my bagel and butter?
You're fine with your bagel and butter.
Okay.
I feel like it's something that I need to say.
I'm saying it reluctantly yet with enthusiasm.
Is it about my hair today?
Nope.
Okay.
It's not about your hair.
All right.
I'm going to say it.
I'm going to say it.
But once I say it, it's been said.
I love Game of Thrones.
Yes! Yes! I told you you would. I told you you would. Where are you? What's happened?
End of season one.
Spoilers. End of season one. Oh, you you would. Where are you? What's happened? Spoilers, spoilers.
End of season one.
Oh, Khaleesi out of the fire.
I mean, Angela.
With her dragons.
When Khaleesi rises out of the fire.
I am Khaleesi, first of my name, mother of dragons.
She's got three baby dragons on her?
Yeah.
I was like, I was like, oh my God,
I am Khaleesi with three baby dragons
and my dragons are just gonna get bigger.
I was like, I'm a woman coming into her own.
I'm with you, Khaleesi.
Everyone out there who was really,
I got a lot of mail and support from people out there
who were like, Jenna, you do not need to watch
Game of Thrones, you do not need to,
like we were in it together,
I feel like I'm letting some folks down.
You told me it was a soap opera, a fantasy soap opera.
Well, it is a fantasy soap opera, Angela.
A little bit, a little bit.
But it's more than that.
Well, you know what?
I'm just gonna say that I was wrong about it,
but I do, I'm gonna stand by the Star Wars.
Okay, okay, you know what?
I'll take it, I'll take it.
I got one, I got one.
I got GOT with you.
Yeah.
I'm good. I'm in it, I'm in it to win it on GOT.
Okay. Michael takes the kids over to Creed. Okay. And he says, this is Creed. He's in charge of
something. Right. And Creed says, that is correct. Yeah. Because Creed doesn't know what he's in
charge of. Creed doesn't know either, no one knows.
And then of course Creed is like
the showstopper crowd pleaser when he's like,
wanna see a foot with four toes.
Yeah.
And they're so excited and Creed is giddy.
Creed can't wait to show him.
Finally, someone wants to see his four toes.
I know.
But he says, don't worry,
like the hair covers up most of it.
I know.
What is it, hobbit feet?
I guess so.
Hobbit, Jenna, Lord of the Rings.
I'm sorry.
I'm not going to go there.
I know.
I'm not going to.
I shouldn't have brought it up.
That I will.
I mean, I might watch a Star Wars one day,
but you are not getting me into the Lord of the Rings.
That is where I draw the line.
OK, fine.
All right, so we go into the conference room,
and all the kids are in there and they're eating candy.
And this is when Michael tells them that he used to be the star, calls himself the star
of a TV show called, Thundle Bundle.
Here's my question for you.
Cause as I watched this, I kept thinking about this.
Is just Michael's memory of this just through rose colored glasses?
He doesn't really remember what it was like.
He's recreated sort of, he's rewritten history, if you will, right?
That he was the star and it was a great thing.
Yes.
I mean, I think that's pretty common.
I'm thinking of the time for example, that I got to be on the radio reading a poem about
the St. Louis Cardinals during the World Series.
How old were you?
Oh, I was probably...
Last year?
No, I was like 10.
I was 10.
Do you think?
Yeah, because it was the 84 World Series, I believe.
Okay.
So I was 10.
Okay.
And my memory of it is that I was a radio star.
But I'm sure if I heard the audio, it's me like, roses are red, violets are blue,
I love the Cardinals and so do you. Right? Like I was probably not the poetry reader
you are now.
Yes. And who knows what this poem really was. But in my mind, it was such a fabulous poem,
it got live on the radio and we all listened. You know. So I think that's what's happened in Michael's brain.
He has this childlike nostalgia of what that was.
And Fundle Bundle, if it was anything
like The Land of Hatchimalatchee,
was a big deal in Scranton.
And Michael was on it.
This is a little bit of a claim to fame.
So he decides, we're going to watch it.
He tells Ryan, go get the tape.
Go get the tape from my mom's house.
And then he goes into this very elaborate explanation.
Go to Dixon City, which I looked up.
It's about a 14 minute drive.
Go to Dixon City.
Mom might be by the pool.
She might be at the pool.
At the pool.
And so you're going to have to go through the window.
Boost yourself up and go to the basement.
Can we play this clip?
It's at 12 minutes.
I just love, Steve delivers it very, very quickly.
He just rattles it off as if everything he's saying is totally normal.
And also this is something he's done countless times.
Yeah, it's so easy to do.
This is how you get in my mom's house.
I do it all the time.
She's going to be at the pool.
Yeah, so you just, you put your, the window will be open though.
Yeah. Here it is. I would like you to go to my She's gonna be at the pool. Yeah, so you just, you put your, the window will be open though. Yeah.
Here it is.
I would like you to go to my mother's house
in Dixon City, and if she is at the pool,
the back kitchen window should be unlocked.
I want you to boost yourself up.
I want you to go down to the basement.
In the basement is a tape labeled Fundle Bundle.
I want you to grab it.
I want you to get my guitar.
Right, okay.
I want you to get a tambourine.
Do you know how to play the tambourine?
I'm already getting the pizzas from Brunetti, so.
You know, I can go with him.
No, I will go.
Okay.
I love that. I love that. Oh, get my guitar, which is in his mother's basement.
Yeah.
And then, can you play the tambourine?
It's, it's, it's all about to happen.
It's all about to happen.
So, at 12 minutes, 17 seconds, Ryan says he can't go because I'm already getting pizza
from Brunetti's.
Brunetti's is a real pizza place in Scranton.
No jitters, but there is a Brunetti's.
There is a Brunetti's, but guys, guess what?
What?
I went to the Facebook page for Brunetti's.
Their pizza is a rectangle. What? Rectangle pizza. Brunetti's. Yeah. Their pizza is a rectangle.
What?
Rectangle pizza.
Brunetti's, scandalous.
Not circular pizza.
Like Barone's here.
Barone's in Los Angeles, Steve's favorite pizza.
Where we would get pizza sometimes on set.
For the cast and crew.
Square.
Rectangle.
Oh, rectangle.
Yeah, it's made on like a cookie sheet.
Mm-hmm.
Well, in our episode, we have circular pizzas.
To be fair, I did see they tend to sometimes serve circular ones.
Well, you heard it here, you guys.
You heard it here.
Sorry for the circular pizza when it wasn't Brunetti's rectangle pizza.
All right, guys.
Everybody is in the conference room now
at 12 minutes, 29 seconds.
They're eating the circular pizza
that should be a rectangle fan catch from Mrs. Cray.
What Mrs. Cray?
What is the funny dance move
that John Krasinski is doing in the background?
I don't know, they're just goofing around with the kids.
It's just John being John.
Yeah, he's just playing. That's John.
Yeah.
If you want to know what John is like, check out 12 minutes, 29 seconds.
Yeah, he's just having fun.
He is.
Are we ready to play this tape from Fundle Bundle?
12 minutes, 51 seconds.
The Fundle Bundle tape has arrived.
We had a lot of fan questions about the Fundle Bundle video and how it was made.
So I reached out to Kent Zbornak, our line producer.
So he told me that our set designers built the set
and that our wardrobe designer, Carrie Bennett,
found all of these vintage 1960s outfits for the kids.
She was great at that.
So good.
And probably so excited because all we wore
were gray turtlenecks and like beige tops and so she was probably
so thrilled to have a project.
Here's an interesting bit of trivia about Carrie Bennett.
So before our show, Carrie worked on scrubs and she designed some kind of like, I guess
quote unquote designer scrubs.
She could sew and so she designed her own line of scrubs.
That were less boxy, that were more flattering
and fitted for both men and women.
Different colors and patterns.
They were so popular that she actually started
a line of scrubs.
Yeah, go Carrie.
So there you go.
So when they shot this footage,
they used a cheap video camera
instead of one of our regular cameras.
And then in post-production, footage they used a cheap video camera instead of one of our regular cameras.
And then in post-production, he told me they threw in some additional artifacts.
I guess artifacts is a term for lessening the quality of the film image.
And so that's how it got that degraded grainy look.
Yes.
Yeah.
We had another fan question from Karen Friar.
She said, who was the voice of Edward R. Meow, the puppet
that all the kids are talking to in Fundle Bundle?
The voice is Kevin Carlson.
He is a puppeteer and voice actor,
but here's something very sweet.
What?
I did not know this.
Kensa Borneck, our line producer,
used to be a puppeteer. Stop it. Yeah. He worked with Jim Henson. Kent? Kent Zbornak worked with
Jim Henson and Sid and Mary Croft, and he wanted to be Edward R. Miao. And they didn't let him?
No, he couldn't do it in the end. He didn't have the time. He couldn't leave his job of line producing
to be Edward Armiao.
So he asked his friend, another professional puppeteer,
Kevin Carlson, if he would do it.
This is that classic thing that I love,
where you look at someone, you think you know them.
You're like, I know you, you're very efficient.
Kent's kind of like this high strung,
but like nice and kind, but he's getting stuff done.
He's got Excel spreadsheets.
Yeah, and I'm like, Kent, I know who you are.
And then you're a freaking puppeteer.
Puppeteer.
What?
Yeah, I did not know that blew me away
when he told me that.
I love that.
Yeah, I love it.
But here's something.
What?
The little blonde kid that gets interviewed
by Edward R. Meow.
The first kid?
The first kid. Yeah. That's Kent's the born ex by Edward R. Miao. The first kid? The first kid.
That's Kent's the born ex son, Alec.
That's so cute.
He had to audition for the role and he got it.
He got it.
Yeah, he had to audition.
Isn't that cute?
That is so cute.
Should we talk about Chet Montgomery?
We should.
Chet, he's like a local celebrity.
So my hometown is pretty small in North Texas.
And the evening news there is, good evening Texoma, because we're right by the Texas Oklahoma
border.
And the folks that do the news there, the local anchors, I have been in Wichita Falls
with my grandmother or mom.
We're at the mall, are going to Luby's.
They love Luby's.
What's Luby's?
Luby's is like- Do they sell earrings?
No, it's like, my grandparents love to go there for lunch.
You get a tray- Oh, it's an eatery.
You eat there.
Yeah, but you get a tray and you go all the way down.
It's like a buffet.
Like a cafeteria style buffet thing?
Yes.
I'd love that place.
Oh, yeah.
Like a soup plantation?
Kind of, yeah.
Luby's, it yeah. Luby's.
It was called Luby's.
It's in the mall.
But I remember going there with my grandparents and we saw the local news guy and they were
like, there he is.
Oh my God.
That's the, he does the evening news.
Oh my God.
We're so excited.
This kid who's being interviewed, he's Chet Montgomery.
We find out he's the weather guy.
Yeah.
Right? He's played by Demone Roberts.
Here is a crazy thing about Demone Roberts.
Remember earlier in the talking head when Michael says,
I'm Eddie Murphy in Raw,
but they're gonna make me be Eddie Murphy in Daddy Daycare?
Is Demone in Daddy Daycare?
Yes.
Stop it.
Yes.
That's amazing.
Demone Roberts is also in Daddy Daycare.
Fan question from gracemarvel5005 and Chris Wolpert,
who played Michael as a kid?
This was an actor named Jake Callender.
Jake Callender.
Jake Callender.
He sounds like Chuck Montgomery.
He does.
Jake Callender with Evening News and Texoma.
So when Young Michael is interviewed.
Didn't you think young Michael looked like young Sheldon
a little bit?
Oh yeah, I can give you that.
Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Looks a little bit.
Little bit.
Okay, so he's interviewed.
He's interviewed and he's asked what he wants to be
when he grows up.
We should also remind you guys, he's in a full suit and tie.
Yeah. He's a little kid.
Yeah. And he says, I want to be married and have 100 kids so I can have 100 friends and no one can
say no to being my friend. Is this when you cried?
This is when I had to turn off the episode. It hit me so hard. I don't know why, this idea of just this little kid longing for friends and...
Longing for acceptance, but we're getting a real window into his life. Listen.
It was just, it was almost too much for me. It was almost too much for me, the sentence about Michael's past.
And I think because then you go to Steve's reaction and Steve's acting is so good in
that moment.
It just like, I don't know. I mean, I remember at the time when we shot that
that after the little Michael says that
it cuts to a shot of the puppet
and the puppet can't speak, then we lost it.
The puppet is like a gape, right?
His mouth is open.
Do you know that the puppet, they linger on the puppet
with its mouth open in silence, like that the puppet, they linger on the puppet with its mouth open and silence,
like what the heck, right?
They linger on that puppet for six seconds of silence.
I mean, seeing a puppet with its mouth agape being like, what the F just going on?
It is funny.
It is funny.
And when we were shooting this.
Six seconds.
We were dying.
Yeah.
We were dying at the shot of the puppet.
And so when I was getting ready, I think to sit down and watch the scene, all I could
remember was how we were crying laughing at this reaction shot of the puppet. But then I just saw this whole other side
of how not funny that was.
Well, we were looking at the puppet.
We weren't looking at Steve at that moment.
Yeah.
So we missed that moment for Michael.
We needed to watch it as an episode.
Yeah, so- As an audience, yeah.
Yeah.
I just was anyway. Well, the kids start peppering
Michael with questions, right? Yeah. They're saying, well, did you get married? Do you have
kids? Do you have a girlfriend? And then the little girl says, I guess you didn't get to be
what you wanted to be. And it is soul crushing. And I was watching this with Isabelle, who's 11,
and she turned to me and she goes,
Mom, were there just times when you were doing this show
that you were like, I am so uncomfortable?
She was like, this is really uncomfortable.
I mean, she thought it was funny, you know,
but she was like, that is awkward.
And I was like, yeah, oh yeah,
there are a lot of cringey moments on this show,
which make it all work in balance.
But just the fact that she picked up on that at her age
of like what an awkward moment this was.
Oh man.
Well, Michael is so gutted, he just.
He locks himself in his office.
He won't come out.
And the reaction shots of all of us are great.
We're all really sad for him.
Sad, a little embarrassed, all of it.
So Pam's talking to Jim.
We got a lot of mail about this little scene.
Pam's talking to Jim.
She's saying, Michael won't come out of his office.
He won't answer his phone.
Over her shoulder, Roy is wrestling with Meredith's son.
He's so happy. Roy and the jerk kid are having the best time.
We had a lot of questions about what this scene was supposed to mean because Pam seems
a little bit embarrassed or ashamed that Roy and this kid are getting along. They're like,
what did this mean? Well, I think, I don't know.
What was your interpretation here?
Here is my take on it.
Okay.
Because you have Roy, this big guy, right?
And he's kind of fratty.
He's kind of like a frat guy.
And he is with the kid that's the asshole.
Right.
And they're having the time of their lives.
They're in there.
There's other people around them.
They're not even caring about other people's personal space.
They're wrestling in this room.
And Roy's got him in a headlock, and he's like,
I love this kid.
And I think Pam had a flash of what her life would
be like with Roy, with children, what their kids would be like.
She is going to have a kid that's like, mom, pull my finger, fart, dad laugh.
And Pam was like, oh God, oh no,
I'm gonna be outnumbered in my own house
by like the Roy kids.
Yeah, I think it's definitely there to show a contrast
to the way Jim bonds with a kid over books and reading,
as opposed to just roughhousing.
But I have to say, when I saw that, I thought, yes, that's what this kid needs, actually.
He needs a father figure in his life.
He needs someone to wrestle with him because that is an important part of parenting.
I didn't think that that was so bad of a thing, right?
No, I think it's perfect for Roy.
The problem is that's not what Pam wants in a dad.
Pam wants more of a gym dad that is gonna do a silly dance
and talk about books and probably wrestle a little bit too.
But I think Roy is just a little brutish.
It's absolutely what Meredith's son needs.
I mean, he needs a big guy to like grab him and be like, Hey, yeah, you know, pay attention. But I just think it's just
that moment that shows that Jim and Pam are just, you know, you meet people, we all like
dated people. And there's some people, you know, instinctively that you're going to parent
the same with. Yeah. And I think Pam and Jim are gonna parent the same. Yes. Yeah, I think that's good.
That's good, that's good analysis.
I like that.
Well, next up we go to the copier with Dwight
and we're gonna see how Dwight might parent Jake.
Well, again, Dwight and Angela,
Angela has told him he needs to be tougher with the kids.
Basically that's her subtext
because that's what she would expect, right? That's what she had growing up and she expects him to be that way.
Yeah. So she's egging him on. She is glaring at him like, shut the kid up.
Jake tells Dwight that he's ugly. Yeah.
And then Dwight is horrible. I'm sorry. At my plotting, he's horrible.
Can I get my mini soap box out again?
Because I did not care for this.
No, it wasn't good.
It bumped me.
I didn't like that Dwight told a child,
like that Dwight insulted a child the way he did.
I didn't, I think we're meant as an audience to be like,
yeah, you give it to the jerk kid.
But I just, that, I didn't like it.
I don't think we're meant to do that.
You don't think?
I don't think so.
I think like, there's part of you that's like glad
that this kid is like at least putting his place
a little bit, although done completely inappropriately.
But I think what I took away from it is like,
Dwight, Dwight is a kid. You have two, these are two kids in one
conversation. I mean, Isabel watched it with me and she was like, oh mom, Dwight. And I said,
I know he's just a kid. Well, it all just made me super sad for Jake. Oh, well, Jake, Jake is doomed.
That's what I felt like. He's married his kid and he's doomed. At 15 minutes, 39 seconds, Pam strikes out again.
Oh boy.
Yeah, Melissa comes over.
She's like, you know, I've spent some time with your mom.
She's so nice.
And Melissa's like, that lady is not my mother.
Like, you mean Terry?
That's my stepmom.
Yeah.
So now she's like, oh for two, right?
Oh yeah.
Pam's not doing great until Jake comes over.
Jake's probably a little wounded by this time.
I think he's a little softer around the edges now.
Maybe so.
And she's like, do you wanna shred some stuff?
Your shredder.
My shredder, 17 minutes, 50 seconds, everyone.
Your shredder that you said we never use
and people were like, oh, I'm getting to my keyboard.
Yes, boy, we got a lot of mail after I said that early on.
Yes, Pam does use her shredder.
With Jake.
By the way, I want to say that original shredder did not work.
It was inoperable.
And I can't remember now if they had
to bring in some other shredder.
I think there's a reason why there's not a great shot of it
is because it doesn't technically match the giant shredder that's always been there. I will say also in our early years on
set, I know we were on a tight budget, right? We were the show that was almost going to get canceled.
We were like, it was sort of shoestring budget. And a lot of our appliances in the office, if you
look really closely, are old used appliances that they would take
from like a prop warehouse or other shows.
Oh, the copier didn't work at first.
And then they wrote that someone uses the copier
and they're like, whoa, hold up.
That doesn't work.
We need a copier.
We were just, I mean, that was just decoration.
It's just a prop.
We're planning on using that.
And that shredder looked like something
from the Dharma initiative.
It looked really old.
Well, you remember that copier used to often not work right.
Do you remember that?
We were always fixing that copier.
All the time.
But then when I worked in offices, we were always fixing our copiers.
So maybe it worked just as it was meant to work.
Or as good as any copier I've ever used.
All right. All right, so now Toby goes into Michael's office
and he's returning the toys that Sasha took.
And Toby asked Michael if he's okay.
And Michael says,
well, you have to ask me that because you're head of HR.
And Toby's like, well, it's true.
It's true.
But how are you?
And then they end up having a heart to heart.
A sweet heart to heart.
Michael and Toby.
I know.
But of course, then Michael asks if Sasha has a godfather.
And Toby's like, she does.
Toby actually cuts him off.
So he's like, hey, does Sasha have a godfather because no, he does.
He does.
She does.
Yeah.
But Michael decides he's feeling a little better.
He's going to sign up for an online dating service.
He's going to get out there.
He is.
He's going to try to make little Michael Scott's dream come true.
Let's get married and have his 100 kids.
And he wants the ladies out there to know how serious he is about having a family and
his love of children.
So he makes his username, little kid lover.
Yeah, he's gonna do it.
Oh boy.
All right, so now, huge bombshell.
Abby is leaving with Kevin
and she wants to invite Jim over for dinner.
Very sweet.
He can't, he has plans.
He has plans.
What plans, Kevin says? You never has plans. What plans, Kevin says?
You never have plans.
Guess what, guys?
Jim has a date.
Jim has a date.
With who?
Is this maybe Brenda?
Is Brenda back?
Fan question, Laura Dini would like to know.
Who is Jim going on a date with?
Don't know.
Brenda?
Is he lying?
No, he has a date.
No, he has a date. I think he does. No, he for sure has a date. Yeah.
So then we get to the last scene of the episode. This is the second time I cried in this episode.
When they were singing? Yeah. Jenna.
Dwight is playing guitar. I get the first one. Why did you cry in this one? I don't know. This song really gets to me.
Teach Your Children, Michael is singing.
Crosby, Stills and Nash.
Yeah.
And Young, I guess.
I love how, I love how Steve does this.
He went for it.
He went for it.
His very weird harmony.
Falsetto.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And during this scene, Jim and Pam have a little banter. Hi falsetto. Yeah. Yeah. And during this scene Jim and Pam have a little
banter. A little banter. This was a real kick in the nuts for Pam. This was a tough one.
Jim says, why does he have a guitar if he never plays it? They're doing their thing
where they kind of flirt and chitty chat in the corner. Exactly. They're commenting on
what's happening. But then they kind of giggle. Then Pam looks away and she turns back
and she's like, well, my theory is he's gone.
Jim's gone.
Yeah.
And then your little adjustment after you realize
you were talking to no one and that he's gone is so great.
Cause you kind of feel her like, oh, okay.
So at 19 minutes, one second, we sort of start this montage,
right?
Jim is leaving.
Yeah.
And you see this really sweet thing with Michael and Sasha.
He's kind of helping, I think, get her in Toby's car.
And then you end with this Dwight talking head.
Yeah.
It's so good.
What? OK, I have a Yeah. It's so good. What?
OK.
I have a question.
Yeah.
Where is that photo from?
I found out.
Good.
I was hoping you would.
Yeah.
So during this talking head, Dwight
is kind of explaining the value of children
in the Shrut ancestry.
And there is this photo, this black and white photo
of a family, seemingly kind of impoverished
family.
Impoverished family.
Well, Dwight says that they would have a lot of children so they could work the fields,
which you know, is not a real stretch because my mom grew up in rural Texas on a farm and
she had their 12 siblings.
They all worked the farm.
I think that was a thing.
Yeah, that was a thing. Yeah. That was a thing.
Yeah.
Life on the prairie.
Little house on the prairie.
We learned that from Little House on the Prairie.
Not really, but.
That family had a lot of kids and they all worked that field and farm.
They had like four.
I think they had more than that.
Five.
I feel like it was upwards of seven.
What?
Mara, Mara, Mary, half pint.
Yeah, the baby who I think died on Christmas Eve, a fever.
There were some boys, one boy.
Maybe there were only four or five.
I don't know, they all worked the farm though.
Anyway, Dwight also says that they sometimes
ate the weakest person in times of real hardship.
And then he was like, but not a kid.
We didn't eat the babies.
But the way he says it means like maybe sometimes they did.
No, he said, I'm kidding.
We never ate the children.
It never came to that.
Right.
But if it did.
They were, yeah.
All right, well, at 20 minutes, 17 seconds,
there is a shot of this photo.
And in the Booze Cruise podcast,
we mentioned that Rain did bring in a number of photos
of his real family.
Is this one?
No, it's not.
There was a real photo of his family
in the vending machine in the cold open of Booze Cruise,
but this was not Rain's real family.
Kent told me that they just found it on Getty Images.
It's a stock photo.
They just licensed it and it became
the lore of Dwight's family right there.
Just a picture.
There you go.
It's somebody's family.
It's someone's family.
Maybe someone will write in and say,
Hey, those are my ancestors.
Those are my ancestors.
A Getty image photographer came to a reunion in 1814.
Yeah.
Anyway.
All right, well, there you go.
That's our episode.
All right, you guys,
that's Take Your Daughter to Work Day.
If you have any questions, if we left anything out,
write us in and we will see you next week. We will, I think, for Michael's
birthday. Michael's birthday! Yeah, the ice skating rink. Oh, I have good photos
from that one. I have good stories.
Thank you for listening to Office Ladies' Second Drink. This episode was initially
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Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey
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Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins,
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