Office Ladies - Star Wars Holiday Special
Episode Date: December 4, 2024This week, Office Ladies kick off the holiday season by breaking down the “Star Wars Holiday Special”! This special came out in 1978 and follows Chewbacca and Han Solo trying to get home to Chewba...cca’s family on the planet of Kashyyyk to celebrate “Life Day”. It is often referred to as one of the most bizarre things to exist in the Star Wars universe. Angela shares what Star Wars action figure became the world’s most valuable toy, Jenna points out some all-star cameos and the team tries Bantha stew and Joh Blastoh punch. This episode will get you in the holiday spirit and make you want to learn Wookieespeak. Watch the "Star Wars Holiday Special" Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hH8rxarVG8 Check out Office Ladies Merch at Podswag: https://www.podswag.com/collections/office-ladies Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPod To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I'm Jenna Fisher and I'm Angela Kinsey.
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We're the Office Lady 6.0.
Hello. Well, hello to you.
You guys, we showed up today.
We had not spoken to one another this morning.
We are both in black and white striped sweater things.
We just-
Look at us.
I know.
We dressed almost the same today.
Should we talk about what we're doing today?
Yes.
Well, you know, everyone, from time to time, we are going to be dipping into our dear office
ladies mailbag and doing episodes based on your suggestions.
Yeah, you heard us right. Your suggestions will become an episode.
These episode suggestions can be office-related or not office-related, which brings us to
today.
To kick things off, we had our very own Cassie Jerkins make the first recommendation.
Cassie, would you like to share with everyone what you wanted us to do an episode about?
So I was in the office ladies mailbag
and a lot of people were requesting Star Wars
or like a fantasy movie breakdown.
Yeah.
So I was thinking like, okay, it's the start of December,
it's the holiday season,
so I think you all should break down
one of the strangest things in the Star Wars universe,
the Star Wars holiday special.
Holy crap sticks.
Where do we begin?
I mean, I had never seen this before.
I'd never heard of it.
I just watched Star Wars for the first time last year.
I had never seen it either.
I had heard not so great things.
When we were recording our second drink for this week,
Sam insisted that it was quote unquote great, Sam.
It is.
It is really great.
You know, we had to ask Ainsley to do an outline of this
for us, and we felt like she needed to be here.
Because Ainsley, what do you have to say?
Well, I thought I was on drugs while I was watching it.
I wasn't. Ainsle, when we got your outline and we started reading it, it was so funny.
You were clearly so like, what the hell is this?
Well, should we get into it, lady?
We better.
Here it is, the Star Wars Holiday Special 1978.
This was a story by George Lucas. It was written by Bruce
Filanch, Rod Warren, Pat Proffitt, and Leonard Rips with original songs by Mitzi and Kenny Welch
and costumes by Bob Mackie. Fast fact number one is titled, What is this?
number one is titled What is This? I don't know what it is. I don't know. The Star Wars holiday special was a television special originally broadcast by CBS on November 17th, 1978. That
was the weekend before Thanksgiving. This was prime placement.
Star Wars, the movie, had been released the year prior
and had become the highest grossing movie in history
as well as a cultural phenomenon.
The sequel, The Empire Strikes Back, was still two years away.
So George Lucas was convinced by people to do this Star Wars holiday television special as a way of keeping fans interested in the franchise.
Yes, he has been quoted many times saying that he got talked into this.
He wants you to know.
Yeah.
But they said we could sell more toys this holiday season.
And maybe, this was one of their pitches,
maybe we could make some new fans
who didn't see Star Wars in theaters.
Yeah, there's like three of them left.
Maybe they'll get on board.
Everyone had seen this movie at this time, except for you.
Except for me.
This was for you, Jenna. this time, except for you. Except for me. This was for you, Jenna.
This holiday special was for you.
Oh, boy.
Well, wow.
This movie special stars the main cast
of the original Star Wars.
Everyone has a cameo.
Yes.
And like traditional holiday specials of the time it is a type of
variety show so it has cameos by comedic actors it has musical numbers. Angela
take us back to 1978 when this special aired you you said you wanted to I just
want to talk a little bit about it. I just wanted to get you in the mood for 1978.
Okay. First of all the best-selling album of 1978 was Saturday Night Fever, the soundtrack by
the Bee Gees. It spent 24 weeks at number one on the Billboard 200. 24 weeks!
That's a long time. I think we need to hear it to set the mood. Okay. Uh-huh. Where are my roller skates? Come on. So this is what people were grooving out to.
Uh-huh. Are you feeling it? Are you feeling 1978? I'm feeling it. Yeah. All right. I can
feel my landline phone in my hand. How happy are you? I love it. I'm feeling my roller skates.
Okay. And you might be curious what the most popular toys were. I'm gonna give you
the top three. The first one, you guessed it, were the Star Wars figurines that
came out. Now they came out in 1977. The toy manufacturer Kenner ran out of them
almost immediately. They had to give out certificates. Like you could pay $9 and you
got like a piece of cardboard that you could then mail into the manufacturer and then they would,
when they finally got back in stock, mail you a figurine. Wow. They were called the early bird
figurines. They now go for thousands of dollars. For example, the 1978 Luke Skywalker Early Bird 12A figurine is a huge ticket item, but guess which one has sold for the most?
It set a world's most valuable toy record.
I actually weirdly think I know this because I feel like Mark Hamill did an interview about it once.
Is it a Luke Skywalker something?
No. I thought there was like some batch of him that was made incorrectly and
someone has one. Well those always go for a lot and you're on the right track
here but the extremely rare Star Wars action figure that sold for $525,000
half a million dollars for a little figurine, was a hand-painted
missile firing model of the bounty hunter Boba Fett. Oh yeah, it was never released
to the public because it was deemed a choking hazard in the 1970s. The toy, one of only
two still in existence, beat all other of the world's priciest toy.
This is the one everyone wanted.
I thought it was pretty crazy.
It features a rocket firing backpack.
It's not available in stores and it's a hot commodity.
Wow.
But don't choke on it.
I guess you could possibly choke on it.
It would be a real shame to spend like $500,000 on something and then choke on it.
Really bad. Yeah. The other two top seller toys at the time were Hungry Hungry Hippos.
Had it. Had it. I think we still have it. Also maybe a choking hazard. Also maybe. And a pogo
stick. Tried one. Painful. Had it. Painful. Toys were very mean to you back in the 70s. They posed a lot of hazards.
Is this when the lawn darts came out as well? Feels like maybe. Lawn dart time. Okay.
Well thank you for that Angela. I feel like I'm in 1978. Yeah.
Are you ready for Fast Fact number two? Yes. I titled this one, This Was a Sh** Show from the Beginning.
I found an amazing Vanity Fair article from 2008.
They did a whole write-up on this movie.
It was like a look back.
They interviewed a bunch of people from the article and writer Bruce Philanch said that it was George Lucas's intent on
building the Star Wars holiday special around the family of Chewbacca and Life
Day. That is the Wookie equivalent of like Christmas. Yeah, big holiday. Bruce
Philanch said the writers really struggled, which I think is clear if you
watch it. By the dialogue? By the whole thing.
They also went through two different directors
on this project.
Oh no, that's never a good sign.
No, first there was David Acamba.
He was around for all of the pre-production,
but he only shot a handful of segments,
most notably the one starring Bea Arthur
and also the Jefferson Starship musical number.
They brought in Steve Bender mid
shoot to take over directing and Bender's only contact with George Lucas was that they gave him
a Wookie Bible. Oh, like our show Bible. And it was a brochure that was a backstory of the entire
Chewbacca family. But if he had a question outside of that Chewbacca Bible,
Lucas was like not available, not taking a phone call.
He was not super available from my research.
Got it.
Steve Bender's primary job was to try
to bring this production, which was over budget
and behind schedule, to a close.
He also had to shoot the scenes that
involved the members of
the original cast. There was Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Peter Mayhew who played
Chewbacca. Guess what? None of them wanted to be in the special. They all had to be begged to
participate. I read that too. Mark Hamill was asked about the holiday special at a fan convention,
and he said he didn't
want to do it but George Lucas convinced him to do it to help sell toys.
And you might know that Mark Hamill famously negotiated a very good deal on merchandise
and he made so much effing money on merchandise.
Well I have read that Mark Hamill's deal with Star Wars, because he made so much money,
that now studios, they took note.
And all these big action movies like Marvel and where they have action figures, actors
don't get the same deal because Mark Hamill kind of broke it.
No.
I mean, listen, we know that with The Office.
We are everywhere on calendars and mugs and sweaters
and all that sort of stuff. We don't see money from that. What do we get? I think in 2018,
I got a check for $700 for all that merchandise, something like that. Yeah, like eight years ago,
I think I got a check for 173 bucks. Yeah, my face is on a shot glass. Right, right. Thanks, Mark Hamill.
Yeah. My face is on a shot glass.
Right. Right. Thanks, Mark Hamill.
But Mark Hamill, good for you, buddy. Good for you. Yeah.
Well, I don't know if it helps sell more toys, but that's why Mark Hamill did it.
Harrison Ford was especially reluctant to do it.
Remember when Alison Jones was on the podcast and she talked about how, like,
to a film star doing TV, especially TV comedy was kind of bottom of the barrel.
Yeah.
I mean, these were the biggest film stars.
They were in the highest grossing movie of all time.
I watched Harrison Ford on Conan O'Brien.
I did too.
Did you when he asked him about it?
He was like, what about this Star Wars Christmas special?
And he was just kept shaking his head.
And then he said, it doesn't exist.
And Conan was like, I do have a tape.
And then Harrison Ford pretended to strangle Conan.
Yes.
Carrie Fisher said she would do it,
but only if she got to sing.
And she did.
All right, time for Fast Fact number three.
I'm calling this one, how was it received?
How did people respond?
How did it go over?
Well, it was seen by close to 13 million television households.
That seems like a lot.
But it finished second.
ABC's Love Boat and the ABC miniseries Pearl beat it.
Hmm.
I did love Love Boat. Yeah, you might have watched Love Boat instead.
Here are some things that critics have said over the years
about the special.
David Hofstede, author of What Were They Thinking?
The 100 Dumbest Events in Television History,
ranked the Star Wars Holiday Special as number one,
calling it, quote, the worst two hours of television ever.
Oh, Alex Carter from Den of Greek said, quote,
words have not been invented to describe how bad it is.
Alan French from Sunshine State Cineplex wrote,
quote, you will curse God for this shows near existence.
Like we said, the cast hates it. They barely
speak of it. Carrie Fisher revealed that she asked for a copy of it so that she could play
it at parties to make people leave.
I read that too. And I guess the reason she got a copy, George Lucas would not give any
copies out. In fact, supposedly, this is the only copy he gave out. All the ones
you see on YouTube were bootleg copies, right? But Lucas wanted Carrie to do a DVD commentary,
and she said, I will only do it if you give me a copy of the Star Wars holiday special.
Yeah, I mean, everybody, this was the time when like if you didn't see it live on TV, that was it.
Yeah. I just think it's hilarious that if you went to a party at Carrie
Fisher's house and she was ready for you to go she put this on.
I know.
It makes me laugh.
Speaking of George Lucas not wanting to give out any copies of
this.
I also read that in Star Wars Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith
they had to show the Wookiee planet for the first time in the movie.
So the artist to portray Kashyyyk had to go to the holiday special.
Because it had been established?
Because it had been established.
It was already in the world, right?
So they had to go to George Lucas and ask for a copy.
And I guess he was super annoyed about it.
That's what I read.
George Lucas is famously quoted
about the Star Wars holiday special.
He has said, quote,
"'If I had the time and a sledgehammer,
I would track down every copy of that show and smash it.'"
That's what George Lucas has to say about it.
But Ainsley, you found some comments
on the YouTube page where we all watch this.
What are folks saying there?
Yeah, what's the fan response?
Well, it's pretty unanimously bad.
One user said, three seconds in and I'm already upset.
The Incredible Hulk will not be presented this evening.
Oh, yeah, that was the ad before it.
Another said, imagine setting your VCR for The Incredible Hulk and coming home to this.
One is a spoiler, so I won't say that right now.
It's probably OK.
Love how all the comments are related
to the first 10 minutes of the movie,
because no one could clearly make it any further.
Yes.
This special is the reason Ben gave up
during his battle with Vader. He
first saw this and thought if I don't die now I'll have to star in it as well.
And my favorite because I relate to it is this is what Star Wars looks like to
people who don't like Star Wars. Oh amazing. I did see an interview with
Mark Hamill where he said at at this point, we should just celebrate
it.
You know, we should just lean into it, which I think is really, really fun.
And now I guess there's even a documentary about this holiday special.
It's called A Disturbance in the Force.
It came out in 2023, and it kind of shares how this whole thing came about.
Well, I told Lee that we were breaking this down this week
and this is what he said.
Lee went like this, he went,
oh, when I was a little kid, my parents said,
do you wanna go to a hockey game
or do you wanna stay home
and watch the Star Wars holiday special?
Oh man, he loves hockey. And he said, I want to stay home and I want to watch the Star Wars
holiday special. Oh no. So Lee's dad took his brothers to the hockey game and Lee stayed home
to the hockey game and Lee stayed home and he said about four minutes in he's so greatly regretted his decision and he's remembered it all these years. Oh my
gosh the core memory. So everyone we're gonna break it down so sit back relax
cuz here it comes. Oh crap, I forgot something.
OK.
Wait, let me get it.
Let me get it.
OK.
This is part of my bit.
I didn't really forget.
Oh.
I'm doing a bit.
Oh.
Did I sell it?
Did you really think I forgot something?
Of course.
OK, before we go to break, I just had one thing
I really needed to say to you.
Okay.
I just need one thing to help me say it to you.
Angela has gotten underneath the podcasting table and I don't know what she's doing.
I don't know what's happening.
What is that?
Oh my gosh. Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises
Chewbacca noises Chewbacca noises I love it so much. I'm so tickled by it. I bought it special.
And listen, the Chewbacca people speak Shiree Wook,
and this is how they say hello.
Hello.
Angela, I think the rest of the podcast
could just be Jenna talking and you speaking Wookie,
and that would be the movie.
That would be the movie. And I'll just sing from time to time as well and maybe
do a cartwheel and then you will have the full experience. I looked up the
language Wookie speak because I wanted maybe it sounded better than my interpretation.
Oh boy. Oh boy. Well, let's go to break. We'll be back.
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All right we are back and the special opens up on the Millennium Falcon.
Chewbacca and Han Solo are racing through space.
Yeah.
I mean, it opens in a somewhat promising way.
You have no idea what lies ahead at this point.
At this point, you're hopeful.
It's another Star Wars movie.
Oh my gosh, the Imperial Forces.
What's going to happen?
Yes, this is when we're going to find out the plot of the whole thing, which is that it is
Life Day and Chewbacca is trying to get home. Life Day is a holiday that is a combination of
Christmas and Thanksgiving. And Han Solo says, I will get you home in time to celebrate with your family.
You don't worry.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's it, everybody. That's the plot.
Will they get home in time?
Well, after that opening sequence,
we've got a real healthy bunch of opening credits.
Yeah.
Where we introduce all of the actors and their characters
and blah, blah, blah.
And now we're going to get into the meat of this story.
We open on an exterior shot of a wooden home.
It's built around a tree.
Let's just say it's not a real structure.
This is clearly like a drawing that they're using.
It's fakie.
I mean, it looks like it was made
out of matchsticks maybe or it's a drawing. I couldn't tell. It had a
little it has a little bit of like a Ewok treehouse vibe but nowhere near
like as cool looking. Yeah we're gonna now push inside and it is Chewbacca's
family home.
And I wrote this, I'm four minutes into this movie
and I'm already wondering if I can finish it.
Well, we meet the family.
We meet Chewbacca's wife, Mala, his son, Lumpy,
and his father, Itchy.
And the opening shot here, it looks like, you know, Itchy is maybe whittling.
He's whittling a wooden starfighter, maybe the T-65 X-wing, maybe.
And Lumpy keeps flying his wooden X-wing by his grandfather's head and Itchy's getting
really ticked off.
He like growls at him.
He's like, ah, Itchy has a severe underbite.
And no teeth.
No teeth. I found it upsetting. It's a little hard to look at. He's a little unsettling
to look at at four minutes and seven seconds. It cuts over to Mala in the kitchen. She's
wearing an apron. Looks like she's starting to take out the trash. Um, little side note
here. I really loved the light in her kitchen.
She gets great light in her tree house.
She had some plants.
But that was your takeaway from the scene.
She does.
Good for her.
Good for her.
Good for you, Mala.
You've got some plants.
It looked like she has a nice stove top with a hood, maybe a kitchen island.
The living room has a potbelly fireplace.
I mean, this is a pretty nice tree house.
They have turf for carpeting,
which I thought was a strange choice.
Well, they're in a tree house.
But why bring the outside in?
I don't know.
Lumpy now, guys, really wants a snack.
There's a bowl of something, maybe worms.
It's hard to tell.
And his mom is like, uh-uh, you take out the dang trash.
But hold on. I just need us to note that no one is speaking anything but Wookie language.
Oh yeah, it's all just like, but this is my interpretation.
Lumpy takes the trash out to their porch. Then he looks over the banister. You guys,
they are high, high up in a tree. You can hear birds.
Lumpy is like peering over and guess what he decides to do?
Walk on the top of the railing?
Yeah.
What the heck?
It's super high.
It's very dangerous.
I was very stressed out during this time.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, back inside, Oblivious,
that Lumpy is like doing a tightrope walk,
Itchy is still whittling, and Molly goes over to her bookshelf.
She gets a photo of Chewbacca in a frame.
She's really looking worried, and I did notice a few things on the bookshelf.
They have very nice speakers.
Great light, good speakers.
Yes.
Okay.
I want to tell you a little bit about what Bruce
Valanche had to say now. He was quoted as saying, quote,
You've chosen to build a story around characters who
don't speak. He went on to say this was George Lucas's
vision and he could not be moved. He said, and of
course, Star Wars was so gigantic that he had been
validated 100 times over. So he had what a director needs to have, which is this
insane belief in their personal vision, and he was somehow gonna make it work. He
also shared that it was George Lucas who named Chewbacca's father and son
Itchy and Lumpy. But I guess the names are actually abbreviations
of Atichococ and Lumpawarump.
This sounds like when you have to make up a name, lady.
This is like Belly.
What was your name?
Oh, Betsy Bellywally?
Yes.
Yeah.
You could come up with Star Wars names.
Yeah.
They also remind me of the names that Michael
named his children. A little bit. Or when you ask your kids to name the family pet, you get Lumpy and
Itchy. Well, those are their nicknames. Okay, well Lumpy is back from, you know,
walking on the balance beam thing and he runs in very excited. He's got this
little gray square. Guess what? It's like a cassette tape. They have an enormous tape player.
But it's not just any kind of tape player.
It plays music and like a little tiny hologram pops up
and different aliens parade out and they dance
in these colorful outfits.
They juggle.
They do acrobatics.
Imagine a tiny Cirque du Soleil.
It was Cirque du Soleil.
Cirque du Soleil had just hit the scene. And this was Cirque du Soleil. It was Cirque du Soleil. Cirque du Soleil had just hit the scene
and this was Cirque du Soleil, lady.
That is crazy.
Yes.
Well, there's one dude in a really big,
green, leafy leotard.
He's kind of in charge of things.
Imagine like a genie in a bottle vibe,
but then he becomes bigger.
Yes, yeah.
There still has been no talking
outside of the Wookie language.
No, there hasn't been.
We're a good like 10 minutes deep now.
Yeah, and you know, Lumpy wants to keep watching
his hologram tape, but his mom really wants him
to do chores and she keeps pointing to something
in the kitchen and then he has to go dry the dishes. Well now Mala is gonna attempt to
scan for any incoming ships you know can is Chewbacca on his way and initially
she has no success but she eventually contacts Luke Skywalker and R2D2. Yeah
here's the thing they have so many computer screens in their house I think they have too much computer screen too much technology, too much technology,
because she goes to the big family computer and it doesn't work.
Then she has a secret compartment in the bookshelf that she slides the doors open
and there's another smaller computer and they video call Luke Skywalker.
He answers. He's with R2D2 and I think we need to hear
their phone call. All right.
Hello, Mala. Bitchy. How you like that?
Where's Chewbacca? Not now R2.
Oh wait a minute, I don't like the looks of this.
Let me get this fixed.
That's their phone call. That's it. If you want to know what the first 10 minutes of this movie are like, that's it.
Well, Luke is going to assure her that Han and Chewbacca are on their way despite the
lack of communication because come on, he's never missed a life day before and he's not going to miss it this time.
He tells her to smile.
What did I box about?
I know, I know.
I there's another one coming up.
Oh, there is.
I'm going to point out.
I pointed it out.
It's that kiss.
Oh, yeah, I know.
Okay.
Yeah, he tells her to smile.
Well now, Mala is going gonna reach out to Sean Dan.
Yeah, but again, she's on the computer for a long time.
She has to type a bunch of stuff.
Finally, it flashes up on the screen.
It says Trading Post Wookie Planet C.
Mm-hmm, and Sean Dan is played by Art Carney.
Art Carney was an actor and a comedian.
He was one of the stars of The Honeymooners.
He played Ed Norton, opposite Jackie Gleason.
He was nominated for seven Emmy Awards, and he won six.
He also won an Academy Award and a Golden Globe in 1974.
So right before this, he won an Academy Award and a Golden Globe in 1974. So right before this, he won an Academy Award
and a Golden Globe for this movie, Harry and Tonto.
It's about an elderly man who goes on a road trip
with his pet cat.
I want you to hear the people he beat.
Okay.
Albert Finney, Dustin Hoffman, Jack Nicholson,
and Al Pacino.
Wow.
I just want everyone to understand
the gravity of the actor that we got to play this role of Sean Dan. Mm-hmm. And
his first line of dialogue, get ready for the beautiful writing here, he says, oh
Imperial officer, I guess you'll want to see my identification. Mm-hmm. And then in
a very deep voice, this Imperial officer whose helmet kind of looks like a
bonnet and he has a really big mustache, he says, no, I'm off duty.
I've come to look at your shop.
He's got this really deep voice.
It cracked me up.
Yeah.
And Mala is going to call him while this officer is there, so they're gonna have to
kind of talk in code now.
Yeah.
Because, you know, why?
Why are they talking in code?
This I did not understand.
Why are they here?
Why are they on this Wookie planet?
Why don't they want Chewbacca to come home for Life Day?
Why are we sneaking?
I don't get it.
Well, Chewbacca is part of the resistance.
So maybe there's that.
But at the end of Star Wars, didn't we
get rid of all this Imperial business?
Didn't that happen?
They blew up a whole planet, right?
Am I remembering this correctly?
No, you're remembering it correctly.
No, you're right.
It doesn't make sense.
After Star Wars and the happy ending
of blowing up this planet, now in this Christmas special,
I'm learning that we're under the thumb of the Imperial
forces again.
But they blew up the Death Star.
But they didn't obliterate the entire room.
They didn't get rid of the Imperial army.
But they got rid of almost everyone in it.
They got rid of their floating Death Ray machine.
Reorganize so quickly and have everyone under control again.
What was even the point of blowing up the Death Star four seconds later?
Everyone's scared of the officers again?
Who's in charge, by the way?
Who's in charge?
Why do we need to see this Imperial officer in a gadget shop?
He doesn't really like anything.
My favorite moment, I think we need
to hear it, when we learn that you can buy a pocket aquarium.
Listen to his reaction to this gadget.
Ah, here we are.
Here it is.
A pocket-sized aquarium.
Wonderful, isn't it?
And you could take it with you anyway.
And the tank is a snap to clean.
I hate fish.
I'm telling you, I live for this guy.
His voice, his reaction to everything.
This scene is bonkers.
Well, at the end of the scene, Sean Dan is going to convince the officer that he needs
this special groomer, and he's going to discuss the multiple uses of the groomer with the
officer.
He's going to make a sale, and I'd like us to hear it.
Just a groomer, you say?
What's the luck more than that.
I bet every of you haven't read the instructions of the warranty and the guarantee.
Besides shaving and hair trimming, it's guaranteed to lift stains off clothing, faces and hands.
Cleans teeth, fingers and toenails, washes eyes, pierces ears, calculates, modulates and syncopates life rhythms,
and can repeat the entire imperial penal code or 17 volumes in half the time of the
old xp21. Just the thing to keep you squeaky clean. Mm-hmm. And you guys if you see it it's like a stick
with a brush on the end. Capulet, modulate. Well after this we are going to cut to Darth Vader.
Well, after this, we are going to cut to Darth Vader. Yeah.
How exciting.
Very exciting.
Darth Vader tells his henchmen that he wants to find and identify the rebels, even if it
means searching every home in the system.
I have a fun fact for you.
What?
James Earl Jones is the voice of Darth Vader, but he was originally uncredited in the Star Wars movies
So this special marks the first time he was actually credited as the voice of Darth Vader. Oh, I have a tidbit for you
What is it? Apparently George Lucas is not in the credits. He's not
That's what I read
Hmm. I didn't notice. Mm-hmm
We're gonna go back to the Wookiee home
because that's where most of this special is set.
Mala's busy cooking.
She's watching a cooking show.
Yeah.
She is watching Gormanda, who is played by Harvey Corman,
sort of a take on Julia Child, I think. This is one of his three
characters he plays. Yes, Harvey Corman rose to fame thanks to his role on the Carol Burnett show.
During his 10-year run on the show, he received six Emmy nominations and he won four. He also
starred in the Mel Brooks film's Blazing Saddles and High Anxiety, and the Disney film Herbie Goes Bananas.
And I was relieved when this bit came up.
I did appreciate this comedy bit.
Well, that's what he's there for.
Yes.
He is wearing a gray sort of pompadour wig
with a pink dress and a cape.
His hands have these big gloves that come up. There might be more
hands coming. There will be. Chef Gourmanda is teaching you how to make Bantha Surprise.
This is a traditional dish served on life day and Mala is following the instructions.
It seems like the way you make it is you just kind of whip things into a frenzy.
Yes, here's an audio clip.
Step one, we stir the mixture.
Stir, stir, stir, stir, stir, stir, stir.
Stir, stir, stir, stir.
Very nice.
Now step two, while we're stirring, we also whip.
So it's stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir's stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir.
Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir.
Let's try it again together at an increased tempo
because precision is very important in this recipe
and we do want to have a fine consistency, don't we?
So, and on the count of one,
stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir.
Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir.
Come on faster altogether now, cooking can be fun.
Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir.
Stir, whip, stir, whip, whip, whip, stir.
Wah!
There you go.
Yeah.
And during all the stirring and whipping,
Gourmandia gets a third arm and then a fourth arm.
Yeah, well, here's what happens.
After that segment, Gourmandia's like, you also gotta beat it. So then another arm comes then a fourth arm. Yeah, well, here's what happens. After that segment, Garmanda's like,
you also gotta beat it.
So then another arm comes out to beat it.
And then you've gotta taste it.
And another comes out to taste it.
And then there's four arms going,
this is comedy gold, you guys.
I mean, Harvey is trying to keep up
that one of the arms is feeding him,
the other one's whipping, the other one's stirring,
one's beating, his wig starts to fall apart.
I mean, hilarious.
Angela, did you know what Banthas were?
They serve as mounts for Tuscan raiders,
and the two share a close, almost mystical bond.
But Wookiees eat them.
Oh.
Yeah, they have big horns, they're like giant sheep.
Oh, that's right, that's what they are, andes eat them. Oh, they have big big horns. They're like giant sheep. Oh, that's right
That's what they are and they ride them. They look like a giant sheep. Woolly mammoth. I know what they are now
I just didn't know the name. Well, you know what what is this kind of like eating a horse?
I mean, I it feels like it's eating a unicorn because the thing has a mystical bond with its rider or
Eating a dragon or something. I mean I don't know but the Wookiees love it. I'll have you all know
that if you would like you can purchase the Star Wars Life Day cookbook. I'm
holding it in my hands right now. It contains, quote, official holiday recipes
from a galaxy far, far away.
And this was released after the holiday special.
And there is a recipe for Bantha Surprise.
Which I thought maybe Josh could make for us.
Yes.
And he did.
Jenna emailed Josh.
Josh was like, Angela,
I just got a really weird email from Jenna.
I was like, what do you mean?
She was like, she wants me to make a type of stew
for the podcast?
Yeah, if you look at the recipe,
it is basically a recipe for beef stew.
Yes, it's got carrots and onions, celery. And so I'm excited to try it. I
brought it today. Well the human version, the recipe calls for beef rather than bantha. And
Cassie, I know you're a vegetarian and you won't be able to partake. So I did make us a special
punch according to the Life Day Cookbook that you can have. What's it called?
It's called Joe Blasto Punch.
Oh.
Do you know who Joe Blasto is?
I guess Joe Blasto is a classic Husties Life Day jingle.
It's a song.
Joe Blasto is a song, not a person.
I guess it's a song.
It's not in the special.
The song is not in the special.
You sing it on life day?
Yeah, and then here are the words in the cookbook.
Oh, sing it.
Okay.
Make up your own tunes.
It's written in both Wookie and English.
Do you want me to do the Wookie part with my mask
and you do the English part?
Sure.
Okay.
I don't know the melody.
Rumor has it that R3X, the DJ droid over at Oga's Cantina has a collection of Joe Blasto
remixes so extensive that it could play all life day without ever repeating.
So here's the Wookiee.
I love that you're standing
over my shoulder as if this means anything to you. And I'll sing this part
in a melody that I make up on the spot. And then I'll sing the Wookie part. Yeah
sure over my shoulder. Okay. Are you ready? Mm-hmm. Blasto Joe Blasto Blasto Mooli Ra O Ta Pan Wai Yataka Bo Eopi Chopa G Balakaya Tup
I can't I can't that's all I can do that's all I can do no one wants to hear us do that. I apologize. I don going to get out the Bantha Surprise.
I'm going to get out the Joe Blasto punch and we'll be right back.
Okay everyone, we're back. We've got our Bantha Surprise, our stew, and we have our punch.
Ainsley is also a vegetarian, so Sam, Angela, let's try our Bantha Surprise. Here we go.
I mean, it's stew.
It's a beef stew.
This is great.
Mm-hmm.
I highly recommend.
If you base the movie off of this, this movie's great.
The movie is terrific.
Yeah.
Well, we'll put the recipe in our stories.
Josh will show you how to make it.
All right.
Now, let me try my punch.
By the way, the punch, I should tell you what's in it.
Right?
This punch is insane, by the way.
Insane in a good way?
I need a sip of water.
I don't think I can go from beef stew to this.
It looks like a rainbow ice cream in a cup.
Well, here's what it is.
It is cranberry juice, pineapple juice, 7-Up, and then you mix
that together and you top it with a scoop of rainbow sherbet. Here we go. Okay everybody and
Ainsley, Cassie, you've got some. I told you, this isn't a game Okay, here we go. It was more tart than I expected.
The combination of-
Oh my Lord.
Of like rich beef stew.
I can't believe you didn't take a sip of water
between the two.
Chased with this punch.
Okay, let me take another sip.
All areas of the tongue.
It makes my mouth want to expel it.
I want to...
I don't know if it's because I've had the mayonnaise and olives, but I'm like, this ain't so bad.
Yeah, this is fine.
Nothing can ever be as bad as that.
Ainsley, Cassie, how did you like the punch?
It tastes exactly the way it looks and kind of like what I imagine
unicorn droppings to taste like.
Yeah, it's way too tart, but it's close,
but not as good as this punch my grandma makes
for the holidays, which is just high C,
ginger ale, and sherbert.
Ooh!
And that's really sweet and yummy and highly recommend.
But so much sugar.
Well Ainsley, you saw me make it.
I measured it per the instructions.
You did.
It looks like something like when our kids were young
and we played potion, you know, like make your own potion.
And it was like, what do we got in the kitchen
that I'll let them pour into a cup?
Oh, you know what it looks like
when you get one of those lush bath bombs?
Yes.
And it gets all frothy and rainbowy.
And like stains your bathtub.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Well, I guess Wookie's really like a tart drink at the holidays.
But okay, so I recommend the Bantha Surprise.
I would pass on the Joe Blasto punch.
I'm not hating the punch.
Okay.
All right, everybody.
Well, let's keep going with our breakdown,
but I want to say I haven't hated this experience.
I feel like maybe my tone so far
is communicating a type of grumpiness.
That's the highest compliment Jenna Fisher can give.
I didn't hate it.
I, you know, it's this experience,
I look back on it with fondness in a way.
Anyway, all right.
We're gonna get back on the Millennium Falcon again
and Han Solo is still having a hard time getting Chewie
to his home planet.
Well, lady, the coordinates weren't the best and they came out of hyperspace into an Imperial
convoy.
I've got some gems from Han Solo.
How about this line?
This is one life day we won't soon forget.
And this one, why do I always think taking you home for life day
is going to be easy? Why does he always think that?
I don't know. But guess what? I just lost control of the remote cannons. I got to go
to the back and operate them manually. How do you operate them manually?
I don't know. We're never going to see. We don't spend too much time.
Well now the Empire is is gonna declare martial law.
No ships are gonna be permitted in or out
without further notice.
I have one thing to say.
One thing?
Go ahead.
The number of times the Empire has to pop
on your TV screen, it's constant.
They're popping up all the time to tell you something.
I'm like, can you turn it off?
I know.
Do you have to have these
people just popping up at your bar, at your home? Also, I guess they can see you. They can just pop
up and they see you. Like, what if you're walking through your house, like, post shower and they
just pop up on your screen? I didn't think they could see you. I thought you could only see them.
but you could only see them. Well, it's not clear.
It's not clear.
Well, now Sean Dan is gonna come over to the Wookiee home.
Yeah, he's got a toy for Lumpy,
and I thought it was a sewing machine for Mala,
but it's not.
It's a projector.
I don't know what he gives Mala,
but before he gives her the gift,
she gotta give him a little kiss on the cheek.
Give him a kiss on the cheek
for a gift she didn't ask for.
Why, why, why doesn't Sean Dan's shirt have a button
or a zipper?
It is like all the way to his navel.
It is open.
It's very open.
A lot of open real estate there.
Yeah.
He is going to give Itchy a proton pack so that he can get
his mind evaporator working. Yeah, it's like he sits down on like an old timey hair salon dryer
and you know he kind of leans down to Itchy and kind of smirks and goes, I mean, this is wow. And then if you know what I mean, happy life day.
And I do mean happy life day.
I'm like, what's with the creepy dialogue?
And then-
What's with the creepy dialogue?
It's foreshadowing for what we're about to see.
Here's what happens.
Itchy puts this virtual reality headset on.
He sits under it.
It's like a hairdryer. Yeah. And then Mermia
is this very sexy holographic image played by Diane Carroll. I just want you guys to hear.
I want you to hear some of the things she's saying. Yeah, let's just listen to it. Yeah.
Because she's wearing a sparkly wig and this off the shoulder gown.
So just imagine Diane Carroll looking incredible.
Very, very sexy.
And Bob Mackie.
This is the gift that Sean gives to the grandpa.
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
I can feel my creation.
I'm getting your message.
Are you getting mine?
We are excited, aren't we? We'll just relax. Just relax.
We can have a good time, can't we?
Oh.
Hmm.
I'll tell you a secret.
I find you adorable.
I'll tell you a secret.
I find you adorable.
I find you adorable.
I find you adorable.
Yeah, he keeps rewinding it.
She says it over and over.
This is crazy to me.
Grandpa is sitting in the middle of the kitchen, getting off.
He's... Happy holidays.
She's going to go on to say things like,
I am your fantasy.
I am your experience.
I am your pleasure. I am your experience.
I am your pleasure.
Experience me.
Then she's gonna perform a song.
This was an original song written for the special
called This Minute Now.
And it is the least melodic song I've ever heard in my life.
And I thought we should listen to some of it.
Really?
Cause there's one more coming up
that's gonna give it a run for its money.
["If We Could Only Bend This Minute"]
If we could only bend this minute,
infinitely extend this minute,
then I could live my whole life right now
Reality is sweet this minute
Okay, I can't anymore with it. Okay, that was enough.
It sounds like when you sing to your cat.
Or when you sing to your pets.
Yeah, it does. It really does.
Can I talk to you though about Diane Carroll? Yes, please. Diane Carroll is such a freaking badass.
Diane Carroll is such a freaking badass. She was an actress, a singer, a model, and an activist.
She starred in this television show called Julia, and this role was significant because
it was the first American television show to star a black woman in a non-stereotypical
role.
And she won the Golden Globe for her performance.
She also received an Emmy nomination.
She didn't win, but she was the first black woman nominated
for a Primetime Emmy award.
She was also the first black woman to win the Tony Award
for best actress in a musical,
for her role in the musical No Strings.
She's very famous for playing Dominique Devereux
in the Primetime Soap Opera dynasty.
And she has appeared on Grey's Anatomy.
She's a badass.
She is an absolute powerhouse.
And, you know, I'm sort of noting all of the cameo stars.
The level of their fame.
These were like huge gets for this Star Wars special.
And we haven't even gotten to be Arthur yet.
No.
Well now Princess Leia and C-3PO
are gonna contact the Wookiees.
And lady, this conversation,
it's like, I know we keep saying this
where you're just kinda like, what?
I have to read it to you.
I transcribed it.
Oh.
They come on the screen and Princess Leia says,
to Mala, happy life day.
And then Mala says a bunch of stuff, right?
And then C-3PO translates and says,
she says it might seem like a happy life day for you,
but personally she's seen happier ones.
Princess Leia doesn't react at all. She goes, I don't want to tie up the channels. Can you put Wookie or Han on the phone? Like what? She's just told you she's upset. She's like,
yeah, can you put someone else on the phone? Then Mala says a bunch more stuff and basically
they find out that they haven't arrived yet. There's been no communication. It's the same information that we started the special with. Yes. We
have to repeat it over and over again. Everyone who Mala calls or anyone who calls Mala. But
guess what Princess Leia's reaction is to this. What? She says, are you alone? And Mala says, no, I have a friend here.
And Leia goes, can I talk to him?
Like what, what the fuck?
Why, why can't Mala speak for herself?
So now Sean Dan comes to the screen
and Leia asks him to take care of the Wookiees
until Chewie's arrival
and that she'll be contacting him again soon.
She couldn't tell Mala that.
She couldn't say hang tight. Exactly. Mala can understand her. She could have just said
that right to Mala. It's not like Sean Dan then translates it into Wookie. Exactly. It's
just hilarious to me that Princess Leia just keeps saying, is there someone else I can
talk to? All right, we're back on the Millennium Falcon. We're going to check in.
Han Solo decides they need to land on the north side of the planet for safety reasons.
There's just too much imperial traffic.
It's going to be a long walk.
Chewbacca's not happy about it.
Now there is a commotion in the Wookie home.
Mala and Lumpy assume that it is Chewbacca
who has arrived at last.
So she opens her front door only to discover
two storm troopers and an Imperial officer.
Yeah, they sort of scan the place
and then they say, all right,
this unit is occupied by four Wookiees,
two males and one adult female and one male child.
Where is the other male?
Yeah, where is he?
The first thing they're gonna do is check out
Sean Dan's identification and it checks out.
But Lumpy is upset, he kinda growls at the guard
and Sean is trying to get Mala to come in the kitchen
cause he has a plan.
He's gonna try to distract the storm troopers
and he plays that music video box, which I think is the gift that he gave her, for one of the stormtroopers and he plays that music video box,
which I think is the gift that he gave her
for one of the Stormtroopers
and he watches Jefferson Starship.
I was very confused because
what are they distracting them from?
They're keeping them in the home
by engaging them in this music box,
but really everybody, this is an excuse
to get a performance from Jefferson Starship.
Taking you back in time, Jefferson Starship was huge. They were originally Jefferson Airplane,
and you might know their hit, Somebody to Love. Let's take a listen. to realize
all the joy within you dies
Don't you want somebody to love
Don't you need somebody to love
Wouldn't you love somebody to love
You better find somebody to love. You better find somebody to love.
That's right.
We love that.
Yeah.
Right?
They were a very popular band.
They're from San Francisco.
In fact, they were one of the pioneering bands
of psychedelic rock.
Two songs from their breakout album, Surrealistic Pillow,
were on Rolling Stone's list of 500 greatest songs of all time.
One was Somebody to Love and the other was White Rabbit.
Remember that song?
But shortly before this special came out, they had broken up.
And a few of the original band members created a new band called Jefferson Starship.
And they...
Not an airplane. Nope. Still a flying object.
Correct. Still Jefferson. Not Jefferson Submarine. No, no, no. Flying in the air. Flying in the
air. Could have been Jefferson Jet. Maybe. Yeah. Jefferson Boeing. Jefferson hot air
balloon. Jefferson kite.
All things that are in the sky. They went with Jefferson starship.
Big Bersh stop.
Jefferson eagle.
This is making us loopy.
Breaking us down is making us loopy.
Okay, well in this special,
they played a song that they wrote
called light the sky on fire.
During production though,
the song was given a different title.
This was the working title of the song.
So this is what would have been like on a script,
like now Jefferson Starship plays this song.
They changed it to Light the Sky on Fire
when they released it, but the working title was,
and I can't believe this didn't stick because it's so
rolls off the tongue. It is. It is. It has parentheses in it. It is. Cigar-shaped object,
parentheses vanished without a trace. What?
Can you believe that that name didn't stick?
Cigar-shaped object?
Cigar-shaped object vanished without a trace,
was the original title of the song.
This appearance marked Marty Balin's final appearance
with Jefferson Starship.
He was one of the members who broke off.
Mm-hmm. The lyrics of the song mention a quote...
Cigar. Great God? I didn't get the cigar. Oh, here this might be it. They mention a great
god named Copacan who quote, came from the stars and vanished. So is Copacan a cigar shaped?
Who is Copacan? Do we hear about this person later in Star Wars?
Not that comes to memory.
We don't know. Okay.
Well, the version that they played on the special was never released,
but a shortened single was released. But rather than listen to it,
Angela, I would like to instead take you back to the late 80s to your middle school mixer,
okay? So that we can listen to this song by Jefferson Starship.
Starship. You're welcome. The pony, remember the pony? We're doing the pony.
That's right.
Get my high tops with my scrunchie socks.
Crimp my hair.
We needed this palette cleanse.
We did.
We really did. We built this city. We did.
That was the song that we couldn't wait to come on at the mixers when I was in seventh and eighth
grade. Yeah. All right. Well, we're basically going to go now from a five-minute musical performance to a ten-minute
cartoon.
Well, here's what happened.
You know, Lumpy, he kind of growls at a guard, and the Stormtrooper's like, really mean.
They shove Itchy to the ground.
Lumpy starts freaking out.
The General says, keep him quiet or else.
Yeah.
Or else what?
So Mala puts on one of Lumpy's favorite cartoons. The
stormtrooper walks over. He's like, what's this all about? And then quickly
Lumpy pretends to be playing like a video game and then when he walks away
it cuts to he's watching this cartoon. Why he couldn't know that he's watching a
cartoon I don't know. It's about the resistance. That's probably why. Oh, so maybe it's like, right.
But while he's watching the cartoon, the stormtroopers are going to supposedly search the residence.
How big is the residence?
I can see the whole bottom floor, and when they go upstairs, it looks like one bedroom.
It's just lumpy's room up there.
It's not that large.
When the cartoon came on, it's called The Faithful Wookie,
and I didn't watch it.
I watched the whole thing.
I just, I just, I couldn't watch it.
I watched it.
It's much better than the holiday special, truly.
If you're going to watch anything, just watch this.
Well, according to the Nielsen data,
you can see that the ratings for the special fall
off after the cartoon.
People stayed for the cartoon and then they were like, I'm out.
You can find just the cartoon on YouTube now and you don't have to watch the special.
But basically, I'll sum it up for you.
Luke Skywalker, C-3PO and R2-D2, they're searching for a talisman and the Millennium Falcon crashes
on the water
moon of Panna with the main characters on board. Then they run into Boba Fett who
saves Luke from a giant monster and he claims to be there to help them but as
it turns out he's actually working for Darth Vader. Well here's the fun fact
this cartoon introduced the character of Boba Fett to the Star Wars universe.
Well some might think that but yes it introduced everyone to Boba Fett in a television medium, on a screen, but some fans might be surprised to know that the very first proper public appearance
of Boba Fett wasn't on the big screen or even on TV, Boba first appeared at a parade
for the San Isilmo County Fair in September of 1978.
He was in a parade.
Before he was ever on screen, he was in a parade.
How did anyone know who he was?
How do you end up in the parade?
Well, I will tell you,
there is a documentary called
Under the Helmet, The Legacy of Boba Fett on Disney Plus,
and it talks all about it.
Huh.
Well, there you go.
I have a question about the cartoon,
because I did watch a little bit of it,
and I am trying to wrap my head around it.
So what's happening is Lumpy is watching a cartoon
about his actual dad.
Yeah, his dad must be famous.
Cause his dad is Han Solo.
He's been made into a cartoon.
Okay, he loved it.
Now we're gonna cut back and see that the Wookie home
is just being completely destroyed
by the troopers and this officer.
They found nothing, they've trashed Lumpy's
room and then the officer is like, clean up your room. I think it's hilarious to trash a child's
room. So funny. They discover that Lumpy stuffed animal, which was a bantha, had been decapitated.
Well, they ripped his head off. I know. They're jerks.
Lumpy is now going to, for a reason I didn't understand.
I don't get it.
He's gonna watch an instructional video
on how to rebuild his mini transmitter.
You kind of just have to make the jump
that the stormtroopers wrecked it
and now he's trying to fix it.
I guess.
This is gonna be another comedy bit from Harvey Corman.
This is really just a bunch of physical comedy. It's the worst instructional
video ever because the person giving it slowly...
He's a robot.
He's a robot who slowly shuts down.
He's like malfunctioning. Why would you publish this video?
If you took this video, it's not live, right? It's not a live video, right? He's watching a video, like if we
went on YouTube to be like, how do I fix my dishwasher? And the one that you're
watching is broken. It shorts out as you watch it. Yes, the robot instructor keeps
shorting out. Why would you post it? Why wouldn't you get your robot in order
before you posted the video?
Don't know.
Okay, but Harvey Corman does some really funny
physical comedy here.
He does, he does.
Now on the TV, I'm not sure why,
but we're transmitted to Tatooine.
We're at Bea Arthur's bar, Acmeena.
Acmeena is played by B. Arthur.
She runs this bar.
She's tasked with managing the bar.
It's very busy.
And now we have another character
played by Harvey Corman.
His name is Krellman.
He has six fingers.
And he drinks liquid by pouring liquid
into the top of his head.
He's gonna come over and he's gonna order a drink.
And I just really love Bea Arthur in this scene
and I thought we should hear it.
She's not taken any of his BS.
What'll it be?
Hello, Admina.
Okay, we'll do it your way.
Hello, now we'll do it my way. What'll it be? Hello, at me, huh? Okay, we'll do it your way. Hello.
Now we'll do it my way. What'll it be?
Can we talk?
Well, of course we can talk. We are talking.
You're not ordering, I'm not pouring.
We are not drinking. We are talking.
I'm moving this to make room for a drink so that next time I say, what'll it be,
and you tell me, I can put it right there.
Doesn't matter. Give me any of it.
I'll have one of those. I'm like she's the Joe Bennett of the Star Wars special.
She is. She's like, she's like, fine, we'll do it your way. Hello. Now we'll do it my
way. What do you have? Exactly. Well, you know, I read that Bea Arthur's
performance by all the critics at the time was singled out as a highlight of this holiday
special. It was the highlight for me. This whole section.
And this was all directed. Her whole section, and this was all directed,
her whole section, she's about to sing,
was directed by the first director,
and I guess there are some rumors
that the shoot was 24 hours.
My gosh.
It was a crazy, crazy shoot day.
I saw in an interview that Bea Arthur said
she was cast as Actmina thanks to her friendship
with Ken and Mitzi Welch,
two of the show's producers.
They also wrote the song,
"'Goodnight But Not Goodbye'."
Which is the song that she's gonna sing in a second.
Bea Arthur's commitment to the reality of the scene
is really incredible.
She is so fantastic.
These Imperial guards are gonna come on the screen
and they're gonna impose a curfew.
Everyone has to leave the bar. Yeah, she said, guys, we're closing, they're closing to impose a curfew. Everyone has to leave the bar.
Yeah, she said, guys, we're closing.
They're closing me down.
You got to leave.
But everyone saw the Imperial Guard come on the screen
and impose this curfew.
It's not like she took a phone call in the back.
No.
They pop up on a screen like they do.
But no one will leave.
They don't care.
Why?
Why won't they leave?
I don't know.
Why is she the only person afraid of this curfew?
She's like begging them, you guys, you got to go.
She's like, I'll give you one more round of drinks and I'm going to sing you a song.
And then you got to go. You got to leave.
She should have put on the holiday special.
You know what? She didn't have it yet.
She didn't have it yet. She didn't know.
Let me tell you a little bit about Bea Arthur.
She was an actress, a comedian, and a singer.
She began her career on stage where
she won a Tony for playing Vera in Mame.
So she was really a famous stage actress, musical theater star.
By the time she did this special,
she was very well known for being in the comedy series
All in the Family and Maude, for which she won an Emmy Award. The holiday special was pre
Golden Girls though. Here's a fun fact about Bea Arthur she has received the
third most Emmy Award nominations with nine. Do you know who's received the most?
Lucille Ball? No. Julia Louis-Dreyfus. Oh my goodness. Has been nominated 11 times.
Mary Tyler Moore has been nominated 10 and Bea Arthur has been nominated 9.
Like real chops in this special everyone. Yeah like serious amazing talent showed
up for this thing. Well she does eventually get everyone to leave. Mm-hmm.
And one other fun fact about this scene
is that some of the same aliens that we
saw in the cantina in Star Wars are in the cantina again,
including the band.
Yes, I clocked that.
Yeah, do you know the band's name?
No, I don't.
OK.
Figrin De'an and the modal nodes.
Again, very similar to your...
To Billy...
What is it?
I thought it was Betsy Belly Welly or something.
Yeah, I'm telling you, maybe you and George Lucas, same brain.
Yeah.
We're really good at
naming things. Uh-huh to sound like snuffeluckers. I know. Flunky lookies.
All right back at the Wookiee house we hear an announcement the Imperial guards
are being told to return to base return to base but are they are they being told
that or is it a trick from lumpumpy who got his little device working?
We don't know.
Again, there's just so much keeping up with the Imperial soldiers.
There's so many announcements.
I would just have announcement fatigue.
Well the stormtrooper goes upstairs and catches Lumpy on his device.
He takes it and he smashes it and he chases him downstairs and all of a sudden guess who
walks in the door?
Han and Chewbacca! They made it! But the Imperials are still present. Chewbacca
immediately runs to protect Lumpy. Han confronts this whole situation and he
kills the stormtrooper by tricking him into falling off the balcony. This is
probably why maybe they established how high up they were.
Yeah.
It's a very, very short fight.
So all of this has been leading up to possibly one of the shortest fights I've ever seen
in a movie.
It's like two punches and a fake and then the guy's off the railing.
Sometimes it's over.
Sometimes that's all it takes.. Sometimes that's all it takes.
I guess that's all it takes.
The Wookiees embrace each other and then there's this...
Ange, what is happening between Chewie and his wife?
What was that?
I don't know. First of all...
It's like they're...
They come together like they're gonna kiss.
Yeah, but...
But they don't kiss, they just sort of breathe
in each other's faces.
Yeah.
Is it, was I meant to feel that as, what is it?
Is it longing?
Is it, is she mad?
Is she like, I'm still kind of grumpy because you.
No, it looked tender. It looked tender.
I don't exactly.
Anyone back there, did you, what was your take on the chewy mala embrace?
We've lost them.
Please hold.
They've left.
Yeah, they just kind of breathe in each other's mouths for a minute.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
They don't ever kiss or maybe that's-
Do Wookiees not kiss?
Maybe that's their form of kissing.
No, Wookiees kiss.
Wookiees gotta kiss and like, I don't know, Mala's been making that dinner, worried about
him and that's all she gets.
I like how quickly you guys were like,, they kiss let me tell you no Cassie My thing was that I thought Mala was like giving him like a cold shoulder a little bit like he came in to kiss
But like he could tell she was still a little pissed. Yeah
Like that, I don't know. He's got a really, you know winter back later tonight. I guess he does
I love that you're writing backstory for it.
You know, the one thing that really got me is just, you know, how Han is like,
hey, you know, you guys are like family to me, you know. And then I'm sure in the stage direction,
it said Mala looks at Han with adoration or something like that. But if you zoom in on
Mala's face, the look is so crazy. She's like, the look is so crazy.
Yeah.
Anyway, okay.
They don't make a lot of different facial expressions.
There's not a lot.
Well, Han is going to leave. He's off. He's like, bye. He's got to go. Le'ez. Killed that guy. Where's he going for life? I don't know.
We don't know. We'll see him later. Harrison Ford just looked happy to exit stage right.
But no sooner is the family reunited than another Imperial officer appears on the screen.
So many announcements. Now this is an alert. There's a missing stormtrooper. They've already discovered that this stormtrooper is missing.
And this is why I think that they can't see you,
because then Sean Dan is like, I got this.
He puts in his identification. He's like,
he robbed me and went off to the forest.
And they're like, thank you very much.
We'll go send out a search party.
Case closed. Done.
Is it though? Are they just leaving this stormtroopers body
at the bottom of this tree thing? Where does that go? Also, how
do you get up there? Is there an elevator? How did you get on the
front porch of this thing? It's just it's built around a tree
really high up. Like do you zip line in? How do you get to the balcony to the front door. Like, do you zip line in?
How do you get to the balcony to the front door?
Lady, you didn't zoom in?
No, is there a bridge?
There's an escalator.
You're messing with me.
Could you imagine that?
It was like, dee dee dee dee, little escalator.
What though, seriously, are they gonna bury this?
They're just like, oh, we tricked them, like what?
There's a lot of things you've gotta
just make a mental jump for.
Okay.
These are two of them.
How do you get into the tree house?
Yeah.
What happened to the body?
Okay, well, with the danger now past,
Chewbacca's family prepares to attend
the Life Day Festival.
There's these gold glowing orbs
and they're wearing red robes.
They kind of look like they're in a church choir.
And somehow they, are they teleported
to this tree of life ceremony?
I think so.
I'll have you know in the Star Wars,
the Life Day Cookbook, it's not just food recipes.
There are also instructions on how to decorate and dress for the holiday. For life day? For life day,
that's right. So you can make a life day orb if you'd like. Here is how you're going to do it.
like, here is how you're going to do it. You are going to buy 12 clear glass ornaments,
white glass paint, and 12 balloon lights.
And basically, pour glass paint into a paper bowl,
hold the ornament by the top, dip it in the paint
about a third of the way up, let it dry,
and then when it's dry, put a
balloon light inside. The end. Or would you like to make a life day robe?
Can I just order one for my church? Nope, here's how you make it. You're gonna need
two yards of red fabric, scissors, and two yards of red ribbon and cut diagonally.
And that's it?
That's it?
Yes, measure the fabric to the desired length of the robe, cut a hole in the top, put your
head through it, and then tie a ribbon around your waist.
I'm not joking.
That's it.
Come on.
This is what you do like if you want to be a ghost at Halloween, but you didn't get your costume in time,
so you just cut a hole in a pillowcase for your kid.
This did not need a page in a book.
No. This did not.
You know what that is?
What? Fluff.
That's some fluff at the end of the book.
That's some fluff.
Yeah.
Take us to the end of this special, Ange.
Tell us how it ends.
Well, I sure will.
So everybody pretty much is all gathered together.
There's a lot of folks in robes.
Han Solo's there, Princess Leia.
Luke Skywalker, C3PO, R2-D2, they're all there.
Everybody's there.
And Princess Leia has a pretty big speech and then goes into song.
I think we should hear it.
This holiday is yours, but we all share with you the hope that this day brings us closer
to freedom and to harmony and to peace. No matter how different we appear, we're all
the same in our struggle against the powers of evil and darkness. I hope that this day
will always be a day of joy in which we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage and
more than anything else, our love for one another.
Here's the song, it's called.
This is the promise of the tree of life.
Life Day.
We celebrate a day of peace.
This reminds me so much of how
I try to sing good at church.
Ha ha ha. Yeah. I love Carrie Fisher. It's got a little bit of that for me though. Yeah. of how I try to sing good at church. Ah, ah, ah.
Yeah.
I love Carrie Fisher.
It's got a little bit of that for me, though.
Yeah.
Incidentally, you're hearing it now.
This is set to the main title music for Star Wars
by John Williams.
Yes, it starts to come in there.
Mm-hmm.
That takes us through the darkness.
As she sings this, everyone slowly files out.
Everyone in their robes that they cut a hole in
and tied a ribbon around their waist,
they're all filing out,
and the camera pushes in on Chewbacca's face.
He's kind of looking off in the distance,
and we see a montage of scenes
from the first Star Wars movie,
and then it comes
back to Chewbacca and his family and they're sitting down for dinner with the
gold orbs in the center of their table they bow their heads as if to pray and
the credits roll. Yeah there you have it everybody everybody. The Star Wars Holiday Special. Yeah.
Thank you, Cassie.
Yeah, Cassie.
You are no longer allowed to write into dear office,
ladies.
I just want you to know you've been banned.
Oh, OK.
I want to know what your review of it.
How many stars out of 10?
Zero?
Zero stars?
Maybe one star for Be Arthur.
Be Arthur. OK. BeArthur gets a star.
IMDB rates it at 2.2 out of 10.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Generous.
You know what?
BeArthur gets a star for me and so does that first stormtrooper that says, I hate fish.
So that's 2.
He gets a 1 and a half star.
Well maybe he gets a star.
Here's what I think it is. Bea Arthur gets a
star. Harvey Corman. Oh yes. Three characters. Yes he gets a star. He gets a star and then a
half a star for the stormtrooper who doesn't like fish. There's our rating. Two
and a half stars. And Jenna can I ask do you still consider yourself a Star Wars
fan? Well I never considered myself a fan.
I feel like that.
This didn't turn the tides for you?
No.
It didn't help you.
It did not turn me into a Star Wars fan.
Ainsley, have you ever seen Star Wars ever?
Not until 2019, I think.
I saw the first two.
OK.
So you're like me.
I have no idea what happened.
As an adult, yeah.
And I did like them.
I liked those three, but I'm stopping.
I don't need to see any more of the world,
but I really did enjoy Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back,
and Return of the Jedi.
But that is, I'm done.
And now I've seen this.
I will watch all of them.
This is my least favorite in the fandom, but I will watch all of them. This is my least favorite in the fandom,
but I will watch them all.
Well, a big thank you to Ainsley for joining us
today for this recording.
And thank you so much for your outline.
For watching it, we're sorry.
But we had to have you here with us to bear witness
to this moment.
And we feel like as a gift, you should be the one to take home the Star Wars Life Day
Cookbook.
I am so honored and I will take it.
Thank you.
Please make one of the robes and show it to us someday.
Yes.
Okay.
Well, everyone, if you have an idea for an upcoming Office Ladies 6.0 episode, we'd love
to hear from you.
And if your name is Cassie, sorry, do not send in.
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in the Office Ladies pod stories today.
And remember, it can really be any topic,
just what do you wanna hear us talk about?
Please, though, can I have a break from fantasy sci-fi?
I'm begging you.
Can we make Angela watch a horror movie?
No, I don't want to watch a horror movie.
I hate horror movies.
Maybe.
No.
Write in and let us know.
And please join us next Wednesday for our interview
with Kathy Bates.
Oh my gosh, we were so excited.
We'll see you then.
This sherbert and stew are such a disgusting combo.
It's coming back on me in a gross gross way.
I drink my whole drink.
Yeah I feel weird.
I feel gross.
I think we should end on that.
Yeah.
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