Office Ladies - The Chump

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

This week we’re breaking down “The Chump.” Michael and Andy go spy on Donna’s husband while he coaches a high school baseball game. Meanwhile Dwight and Angela Martin sit down with a lawyer to dispute their childbearing contract. Writer Aaron Schure sends in a clip about a memory he had involving the negotiation scenes for this episode. Jenna shares a fan theory involving radon poisoning, Angela shares some strange ice cream flavors and of course, the ladies talk about the famous Dwanglea rendezvous in the warehouse that Jim and Pam overhear. So let your bed stay lumpy with cats and enjoy this episode!

I'm Jenna Fisher. And I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on The Office together. And we're best friends. And now we're doing the Ultimate Office rewatch podcast just for you. Each week we will break down an episode of The Office and give exclusive behind-the-scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you. We're The Office, ladies. Hello. Hi there. How are you? I am well. How is New York City? It is great. You know, I just love that we can do the podcast from two different cities. We're Bicostal Office, ladies. So cool. I've got my sound engineer here, Casey, and we are

ready to go. I cannot believe we're on the second to last episode of Season 6. Me either. It's crazy. It's crazy. This is The Chump. It is Season 6, Episode 25, written by Aaron Scherr and directed by Randall Einhorn. Give us a summary, Jenna. Okay. Since you asked. Here's your summary. Last week, Michael learned that Donna, the woman he's been seeing, is married and is cheating on her husband with Michael. But Michael does not call off the relationship. And he receives a lot of flak from his employees for continuing his affair with Donna. Meanwhile, Pam and Jim struggle to stay awake at work after a late night with the baby and Dwight and

Angela are at odds over the validity of their co-parenting contract. Oh, I have some good stuff about the Dwight and Angela co-parenting contract. I'll wait till we get to it. I was hoping you would, lady, because I think there's stories there. Mm-hmm. All right. Fast fact number one, this was our 125th episode of The Office. Wow. Yeah. We shot this episode the week of March 19th, 2010, and it was viewed by 6.6 million people. That seems like a lot of folks. It was a lot of folks. We were second in the ratings right behind Grey's Anatomy. They were a big competition at this time. I mean, it was a big deal if you were even holding your

own with Grey's Anatomy. I know. I mean, they were always number one. Now, the reviews for this episode were pretty good. The AV Club gave it a B plus, and it ranked as the 10th most well-liked episode by fans for season six on Office Tally. So, of all 26 episodes in season six, this was ranked 10th. It was very well-liked. I love a stat. Oh, me too, lady. Now, the fan-favorite moment that was most mentioned in the comments was from this episode. There was a moment. Oh, I'm going to guess I'm Beyonce always. Oh, yes. That did get a lot of mentions. That was very popular. That's my favorite line. That's a mug right there. Yeah. No,

the most popular moment was when Dwight and Angela are having sex in the warehouse, and it pans up to Pam and Jim listening from their sleeping spot. Oh, that's hilarious. All right. Fastback number two is a location breakdown. We got a fan question from Harmjen V in the Netherlands. Where did you film the baseball game, and who were the players? Good question. Yeah. I mean, a big portion of this episode takes place at a baseball field with Michael and Andy watching Donna's husband, who is a high school baseball coach. This was our first day of shooting. We filmed on location at College of the Canyons on Rockwell

Canyon Road in Santa Clarita, California. And then our base camp, which is where they put all the trailers and they put the food and hair and makeup, everything. Yes. That was in an adjacent parking lot. It was parking lot number eight. So if you're a diehard fan and you even want to tour our base camps, you can go to College of the Canyons parking lot eight. And that is where Steve Carell and Ed Helms had their lunch that day. So everyone you see in these scenes are background performers. Randy Cordray told me we had around a hundred extras that day for the baseball scenes. Yeah. For the baseball scenes. He said that they

went to Central Casting. You know Central Casting. That's the famous background casting agency. I was signed up with them when I first came to Ellen. I was signed up with them. You know my 90210 story. Oh yes. Yeah. Exactly. Well, Central Casting provided us with all of the spectators and here is what we asked for. We wanted six people who could be grandparents. We wanted 18 adults to be parents and we needed 34 high school students but all of the students had to be 18 years of age or older who looked younger because then they could work adult hours. Right. But for the actual baseball scene like the baseball players we used a different

company. I guess it's no longer in business but it's called Smitty's Casting. Like Smitty with a Z. Smitty's Casting. And they were really playing. Yeah. The players were really playing and that's why we went to this casting place because they're a specialty casting service that provides productions with sports playing background performers. So we got enough people to fill two baseball teams. The Scranton Cole Hawks and the Wolverines. Smitty's Casting sent us two male umpires, one male assistant coach, three male Wolverines coaches, 18 male Cole Hawk players and 18 male Wolverine players.

And then our wardrobe department provided the team uniforms. I would have signed up for Smitty's. Maybe they would have taken me as a tennis player. Yes. Exactly. Can you play at like an almost professional level? Well I um no I can't but you know what I have a very good forehand. I think maybe you would just put that on your profile over at Central Casting. I'm sorry to say I'm not sure you qualify for Smitty's. Thank you for calling. I don't make the Smitty's cut. I'm so sorry. We are looking for professional level sports players. Wow. Did you ever play on a college team or at the state level? No Jenna but I did. I'm sorry I'm not Jenna.

I'm the woman on the phone at Smitty's. No Barbara at Smitty's. Here's the thing. I was once told by my high school coach that I have a lovely country club game. So ma'am I'm so sorry. I'm gonna have to just forward you over to Central Casting but congratulations on your terrific forehand. I hear some snark with Barbara. Well you've kept Barbara on the phone for a very long time. She needs to move on to other calls that are actually going to produce a client. Oh my gosh. Barbara at Smitty's. Listen. That's. Try being Barbara. Okay. Not easy. It's not easy to be Barbara. Thank you for calling Smitty's. This is Barbara. Hey um so I would like to sign up for

Smitty's. I play pool and also I can bowl very well. Are you professional level? How do you define professional? Clicking. Look at the sass when you're Barbara. Do you see what I'm saying? Look what you have to deal with. All right. Okay. Should we move on to FastFact number three? Let's do it. I'm calling FastFact number three. Is there a guest star in the house? Yes there is. We have three new guest stars in this episode and guess what? They have all appeared on the TV show House. Oh. That's why there's a guest star in the house. Oh. You're making a pun. I'd punt it. You punt it. So Amy Pete's is back as Donna but this FastFact refers to our never-before-seen guest stars. For example Bruno Oliver as our mediator

Mr. Barr. He has been on a rest of development, Mad Men, Modern Family, most recently in the movie Birds of Prey and House. Bruno was so much fun and he was just amazing. Like I loved all of our scenes. As an actor I have to imagine that was such a fun guest star to come on the show and work with you and rain in those scenes. He was so good too. It's just the voice of reason between these two absolutely ridiculous people. He had some of my favorite lines. So our other guest star is Donna's husband Shane who was played by Larkin Campbell. Shane has appeared in Passions 24, Criminal Minds, Grey's Anatomy, our big competition and also House. Finally our guest star Tina Huang who played the reporter at the end who

confronts Michael about the exploding printers. She was a regular on the TV show Arrow. She also had a recurring role on Law and Order LA that was a short-lived spinoff of the Law and Order series. But I kid you not, she has also appeared on House. So there were guest stars in the House. Nice. Well, that's all I got for Fast Facts. But I was very tickled when I was looking up all of the actors' resumes and they had all been in House. Different seasons. Were you tickled by the fact that they had this crossover show or that you saw an opportunity to make a pun? Both, lady. Well, let's take a break because when we come back, we're going to find a whole bunch of radon kits all over the office. Or are

they ant traps? Or are they the little thing you turn upside down and it goes moo? Or are they none of the above? We'll be back. I think this might be Toby's happiest day. A hundred percent. Well, it starts as Toby's happiest day. Yes, absolutely. It starts that way. He's in the conference room. You guys, he is holding court about one of his favorite subjects, radon. He is explaining to everyone that he'll be placing radon kits all over the office and he urges everyone, in particular Michael, and he's snapping at Michael to please not throw them in the garbage. At 13 seconds after Toby is snapping at Michael repeatedly, I want you to look at Steve's face as Michael.

The way he glares at Toby, I went back and looked in the script. You know, this was in the cold open shooting draft for secretary's day. I had to know if this look to Toby was scripted. It was. It said, Michael gives Toby an annoyed look and I want you to know, Jenna, we could not get through it. The first time Steve did it, we all erupted in the laughter. It's in the bloopers. Well, we got a fan question. Actually, a fan mail flurry asking, where is Pam during this cold open? Was Jenna not available for filming? Why am I not there? When I watched this cold open, I actually thought the same thing. And then I remembered, like you said, this cold open was written for secretary's day. We actually shot it that

week and Pam was not back from her maternity leave yet. She returns after the cold open. So that's why I'm not there. And that's why I did not get to see Steve's glare. Oh, yeah, that's right. Pam is on maternity leave. Mm hmm. Well, that's a great catch. Michael is going to have this talking head. And he is going to walk around his office and talk about all of the radon test kits. The first radon kit he mistook for an ant trap. Then of course, he thought it was the thing that you turn over that makes the cow noise. And he just keeps tossing him in the trash. The last one he tossed in the trash just out of spite. Well, I asked Randy about these test kits and it turns out these are not real radon

test kits. Fakie test kit alert. Fakie radon test kit. Yeah, Randy said that the real ones at the time were actually pretty large and quite pricey. And we were looking for something smaller that really did kind of look more like an ant trap. So Phil Shea bought some inexpensive just electronic modules at Fry's Electronics for Toby to place around the office. And after we got them, we realized that they looked like the thing that goes moo. So that line was added later after our purchase was made. I was curious about that because it's so specific. And you know, it's an instant memory we all have. We've all seen those things. For sure. Angela, we got a piece of mail from Brent M. in Vancouver, Canada, who said, I

was wondering if you ladies knew anything about the radon gas fan theory. I didn't. I don't. The radon gas theory basically suggests that everyone in the office is slowly getting poisoned by radon. One of the side effects of radon poisoning is odd behavior, which may explain the character's wacky behaviors in the later seasons. So you can go to the Reddit fan theories thread and you can read all about why the Scranton employees became so crazy in later seasons. And the theory is that we are reacting to the radon gas and that Toby was right. How many theories are there on this thread? Well, here was my thought about this theory is that it's kind of at odds with Toby being the Scranton strangler. I mean, wouldn't Toby

want us to all die slowly from radon poisoning if he's the Scranton strangler? I mean, it would be like he's slowly strangling us all to death. I mean, it's the slow play. Yeah. I mean, or maybe he's just what trying to throw us off with his theatrics. Like he's pretending to care about radon, but he really is just going to strangle us all later. I don't know. It's making Toby really complex, if that's the case. It's true. Very complex killer. Well, Toby is going to say something that Michael cannot resist. He says that radon gas is silent but deadly. Silent but deadly. I mean, here comes Michael and fart noises. It's going to happen. I know. I mean, what did Toby expect? The group must be pretty

bored by Toby because they're actually finding Michael's joke hilarious. Yes, until he goes too far. Yeah. Yeah, he declares that if he had a gun with two bullets and he was stuck in a room with Hitler, bin Laden and Toby, he would shoot Toby twice. Then everyone's like Michael. Michael, Michael. No. And then of course Dwight has to be Dwight and say that he could get all three with one bullet and then he makes everyone line up to demonstrate. And that's how the conference room meeting ends. Yes, exactly. Well, I have a little something about this cold open. What's that? You know, it was in secretary's day. We often moved our cold opens around. So here is what was in the actual shooting draft for this

episode. The cold open featured Dwight and he shares that he has one year's worth of provisions that can carry him through the chaotic first year of an apocalypse before cannibalism becomes accepted practice. After that, he'll be on Easy Street. But his provisions have a shelf life, so it's time to start eating and replacing everything that's about to expire. Then there's all this b-roll of Dwight eating smelly foods that have been stored for years. A jar of pickled okra, mackerel, the bullpen is grossed out and Jim in particular gives Dwight a lot of grief. Did we shoot that? We did. I have a memory of it. We did and there is a really funny blooper on this season six last DVD where you guys are all

in the break room and Dwight is eating gross stuff and he's going around and telling everyone how they would fare in this sort of zombie apocalypse. And Creed says, what would I do? And Dwight said, your skull would be used as a bowl. And Creed says, cool. You guys couldn't get through it. Rain, John, they would disintegrate. Every time Creed was like, what would I do? Every single time Creed said his line. Oh, that's amazing. Well, this episode opens with Aaron and Pam working together to unpack some shopping bags filled with ice cream that is named after songs by the Eagles. Yes, I loved the names of these ice creams. I kind of have a thing, Jenna, for ice cream flavors with fun names or crazy ice cream flavors.

I just get so tickled by it. Oh my gosh, you are the marketing person's dream consumer. I know. I will buy ice cream just if it has a fun name. So Aaron explains that the Eagles are doing a theme ice cream in honor of the Eagles turning 60, the band, the Eagles, and the flavors are Desperado, witchy, womanila. And then later we find out cake it to the limit. I had to know what were some of the craziest ice cream flavors out there. And according to the website, Taste of Home, here are just a few that caught my eye. All right. So Sam, Cassie, Casey, let me know if you guys would try any of these. First one, Kraft macaroni and cheese ice cream from VanLuin Ice Cream. It has cream, milk, cane sugar,

egg yolks, and of course, tons of Kraft cheese powder. You can find it in Brooklyn, New York and also nationwide. Lady VanLuin's made a grape-oupon ice cream that was just released recently and I thought of you. Oh my gosh. I would not eat that is the answer. That's a lactose intolerant nightmare. I would, yes. You would eat the Kraft mac and cheese ice cream. Okay. Moving on, Cheetos Flaming Hot Ice Cream from Marble Slab Creamery. No. Listen. It's got flaming hot. I won't eat a flaming hot Cheeto. Why would I want it in my ice cream? It's got this sweet cream base with flaming hot Cheetos crushed. Oh my gosh. You can get it also in a milkshake. You can find it in Texas and Southeast states. No. I mean,

I'm going to say yes, but I'm not proud of myself. You guys, I'm getting sick. I'm getting sick. I don't feel well. Sam is too. Oh, well then get ready for this one. Thanksgiving dinner from the ice cream store in Delaware is composed of egg yolk vanilla ice cream studded with tomatoes, potatoes and green beans. This seasonal specialty is topped off with hot sauce and granulated sugar. Thanksgiving dinner. What do you think? I mean, you only live once. Oh my God. Casey. Casey. I think it might just be an engineer thing. Oh my gosh. Wait. I have two more. Hold on. I have a caveat. Can I lay down after? Yes. Sure. You would have to. If I can nap afterwards, yes. You can wear sweatpants and lay down. Then yes.

Okay. Two last ones that caught my eye. Dill Pickle from Dakota Drug Company in Stanley, North Dakota. It's got a soft chestnut color that looks like caramel or peanut butter. This brine spike scoop is sure to surprise. I would try that just because it's one weird thing. I don't think I would do that one. Oh my gosh. I'd be afraid it would ruin Pickles for me. No, actually. And I know it's an audio podcast so you can't see, but Jenna is contemplating hard. No, I'm just, I'm not speaking because my stomach is hurting. Oh my God. Okay. I'll quickly do the last one, Jenna. Lobster from Ben and Bill's Chocolate Emporium. What is happening? You guys just let the food be the food. It's delicious as it was made in its

original form. It doesn't need to be turned into a dessert. That one is in Falmouth, Massachusetts. Casey, how did you know that? Have you had it? I've been, I've been to that place many times. Have you eaten it? I have tried it. Oh my God. How is it? It's weird. Does it taste like lobster? It tastes lobster-y. Yeah. Does it, is it like buttery lobster-y? It's a little bit buttery. I would say more, more of the, more of the kind of crabby aspect comes through. Well, you want to know why? Here are the ingredients. It's vanilla bean and butter-based lobster that has been cooked and chopped. Do you get the bib? I don't know. If so, then yes. I don't know. Anyway, I took us on a tangent there because I find these ice cream flavors so fascinating. Well, I'll tell you this.

Our ice creams were made up. The names were scripted. Randy Cordray said that Henry Sane built the graphics for the labels. And then, oh no, I'm going to take us down a road. Phil Shea got the ice cream cartons made at a place called Earl Hayes Press. And this is a very famous Hollywood business that mocks up printed items for TV shows and movies. They've been around for a really long time. We used them a lot. Randy sent me their website. Lady, do you remember when I had to go to the old-timey prop house and I just wandered around for like an hour? You called me from there. You were so tickled by it. I think maybe in another life I was meant to be a prop master because I love it. I looked at this website. It's all fakie labels for like made-up food brands. Like,

they'll make you a fakie cereal, a fakie yogurt, fakie mustard, like anything, you know, so that you, because if you show a real label, you have to get clearance. So you have your graphics design person make you a fakie ketchup label and you then get it made into fakie ketchup at this place. They also do fakie newspaper articles, fakie tabloids, and fakie credit cards. Oh my gosh. Lady, I have a fakie Pam Beasley credit card. Oh, you kept it? Yeah, it was in my prop wallet. I have a library card and a fake credit card. I did not have a fake driver's license, but yeah, that is so cool. I'll take a picture of it and you can put it in stories. But I guess that's where they got it was at this place. I love that companies like that exist. I just think that's so fun.

That's part of like the movie magic stuff that Randy will share with us that just, I just love the whole process. I know. I find it fascinating. Erin and Pam are going to have a joint talking head and they're going to share their plan for how to handle Michael's broken heart. Yes, we're also going to find out in this talking head that Pam is exhausted because she was up all night with CC. Lady, I had so much fun doing this talking head with Ellie. It's clearly the first time the two of you ever got to do a joint talking head. You were so tickled by it. You guys kept giggling and you were chatty and it's in the bloopers. You have to hear it. You guys are adorable. You're clearly very excited to do this together.

Well, this is all for Michael. I'm sorry. Okay. This is our first time to get together. I know. I know. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. All right. Oh, my God. Are we at work or are we at a sleepover? What's happening? I know. You're like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's so cute. Like as I watched it and I rewatched the bloopers a few times, I just smiled every time watching the two of you. Well, now Erin and Pam are going to debrief the bullpen about their plan. So here's what they have going on. They are going to play comedy films in the conference room. They've got Mr. Bean playing. They've got Pink Panther ready to go.

They have a signup list so that people can watch movies with Michael. Pam also tells everyone they need to keep their conversations light. Do not empathize with Michael because it just encourages him. And if you can't think of something to do, just make a random sound effect. And also they should laugh at anything he says that might possibly be funny. The random sound effect was my favorite thing. My favorite thing is that Toby walks through the door and everybody is like, no, please get out. I have a catch from this scene at three minutes and 49 seconds. It is a proof of cold. You can see the heater under my desk. The light is on. Yeah, I saw it. Well, Michael's going to

come in and he gets the warmest welcome. Erin hugs him, Dwight compliments his tie. Everyone is laughing at his jokes. Pam offers him ice cream. Yeah, he's loving it, but he just kind of walks into his office. He doesn't seem upset. And everyone's like, huh, maybe he's going to take this one better than the others. But maybe there's another reason why he's not upset, which we will find out soon. Well, lady, now Angela and Dwight are in the conference room and they are reviewing their contract with their mediator. So like I said earlier in the fast fact, the mediator was played by Bruno Oliver. And Aaron sure told us that he named him Mr. Barr after a friend of his, whose last name was also Barr, who was also a mediator. And Aaron consulted

her for advice on what a mediator might realistically do in this insane situation. And Aaron also sent in an audio clip and he shared a little memory about this runner, this storyline, which he really loved. Hi office ladies, it's Aaron. Sure. What I remember about shooting the chump is that I decided to bring my son to work. And it's a little risky, bring a 10 year old onto a set, even a friendly set like ours. But my son was having a blast. He didn't realize what a cool job his dad had at the time. I mean, now I'm sure his bumble profile says my dad wrote for the office, but then he was just meeting really charismatic, funny people and eating a lot of fun food. And rain came up and was charming my son. But at one point,

rain leans over to him and says, Hey, listen, buddy, I need to talk to your dad for a minute, because this negotiation scene is not hitting on all cylinders. And I'm like, Oh, okay, son, have a cookie. I mean, in fact, have all the cookies you want. I'm going to go talk to Mr. Wilson, because if he thinks the scene is not working, the scene is not working. And rain's like, I'm not saying it's not working. I'm just saying some of the bits feel a little forced. So basically, rain and I negotiated the negotiation scene with my son as the mediator, chomping on a cookie. And I did do a hectic rewrite over lunch, none of which got in. That was any better. That's the beauty of the documentary style. Pro tip. If you're going to

make a hit show, make it documentary style, because then you just keep the parts that work like Angela with red teeth because of her beat fast. Oh my gosh, Aaron, I cannot believe you did that rewrite. I do remember rain pulling him aside. I remember we were going through stuff. And there were so many more scenes between Dwight and Angela. If you have the DVD box set, they're in deleted scenes. And there's also a bunch in the bloopers because we couldn't keep it together. In fact, the very first time we meet the mediator, the very first few sentences, we just started laughing. Here it is. It's in the bloopers. And then we have a joint talking head where Dwight and Angela share that rather than spend

all day in court, they've decided to mediate this childbearing contract dispute. And they go back and forth. Dwight's like alleged contract. Angela's like alleged, I could own your farm by the time we're done with this. We couldn't get through this talking head either. Rather than spend the whole day in court, we decided to settle our dispute using a mediator. It was one of the options spelled out in our childbearing contract alleged contract. What are you talking about? The contract is alleged. You wrote the contract, Dwight. You're notary was out of date. Sorry. We had so much fun. Just the idea that Dwight and Angela would have this contract in the first place and then be disputing it and involve a mediator. Rain and I could not stop doing bits.

We got to do stuff that was scripted. We got to play around a little bit. It was just the best. That must have been so much fun to shoot. I mean, I loved every second and there are so many in deleted scenes. Well, Dwight is really trying to pick apart this contract. He's trying to find some way that maybe Angela is in breach of contract to make it null and void. And the first thing he brings up is whether or not Angela has been following the beet juice cleanse. Apparently, I guess to prepare your body for baby, you're supposed to do a beet juice cleanse. But Angela is like, oh, no, no, I'm doing it. Look at my teeth. And your teeth are red, Ang. They're really red. If you go to five minutes,

seven seconds, you'll see also a fun little game. If you want to rewatch this episode is you can see when my teeth are stained and when they aren't. We go back and forth within the same scene. I noticed that. Well, we had a fan question from Cameron D and Richmond, Virginia, who said, what did you use for the beet stained teeth? Angela, was it gross? Were your teeth really stained? And Leanne H from Lake Stevens, Washington said, as a dental hygienist, I was wondering how Angela's beet stained teeth were achieved because the color looks similar to a dental disclosing solution used to show patients where they are missing plaque with their brushing. I'm wondering, did you get your teeth really dirty and then use the solution?

No, Leanne, I didn't do that. But I will tell you, Kenneth Paul, who did my makeup, we did a few tests on my teeth. He had like a cotton swab. He also used like a little brush and he had, it looked like a red food dye. It had no taste. So it didn't taste gross, but it really made my teeth red. And I thought we knocked this out of the park. I thought the teeth looked really red. Kenneth Paul was happy with it. Even when I walked to set, I would forget that my teeth were stained and I would start talking to people and people would wince. They'd go, ah, and I actually became self conscious while I had my teeth stained because everyone had such a reaction to it. But I remember they wanted my teeth even redder, Jenna.

Yeah, I guess this was a rather involved gag. Randy Cordray said that, yes, in person. It was reading if we were speaking to you. But I guess like when they were looking at it and editing, it just didn't look red enough. So they actually sent the shot of you showing your teeth to a visual effects company called Encore Video. And they added red to your teeth in post. Well, it really made me laugh. I had forgotten just how much of a visual gag it was until I rewatched it. And I was like, oh my gosh. Well, lady, I got curious about the beet juice cleanse because I assumed this was just like a joke because of Dwight having a beet farm. But I guess it's it's actually a thing. What kind of cleanse is it? Well, according to justbeatit.com,

the EET, I love it, quote, an epic detoxifier that eliminates toxins from the liver beats promote healthy liver function. And according to tastylicious.com beats have several essential health benefits that can help detoxify your body and give your organs and immune system a much needed boost. Aside from being healthy and packed full of vitamins, a beet juice cleanse has been known to help a range of conditions and ailments. And it is the perfect food to prevent aging and to battle inflammation. Well, now I'm thinking we need to do a beet cleanse. I mean, after drinking your beet juice vodka, lady, I mean, I don't know. You really were not a fan. It's just that it was so dry. It's very earthy. Well, what I want to know is, is there a beet

juice ice cream? Has anyone done that? I'm sure flavor. I'm positive there is one out there somewhere. I would try that. You would try beet ice cream, probably not the same health benefits as a beet juice cleanse. Incidentally, I could not really find any instructions for a beet juice cleanse. I could just find that beet juice is good for you. Well, now in the kitchen, Andy, Jim, Pam and Phyllis are discussing how Michael just seems okay. You know, has he evolved? Has he matured? He's not crying. He's really handling this breakup well. I know. And Jim's like, so what? He just matured overnight. And Andy's like, that's what happened in big. Yeah. Well, Pam and Jim are going to make an announcement.

This was so well done. I thought you and John crushed this moment because you look so weary and inviting Michael to come to your house and play with your baby and you order food to go from Hooters. You look so pained as you're saying all of it, Jenna. It just cracked me up. It reminded me of the scene where Pam is trying to get Michael to talk to her, so she tells him that she needs to discuss her sex life with him. Yeah. They really know Michael well. They do. Even after all of these promises, Michael is going to take a rain check. And that is when Pam says, are you still seeing Donna? She yells it across the bullpen. I wrote down the time code five minutes and 56 seconds into the episode. I couldn't believe it. Like I was like,

wow, Pam, I have something to say about this scene. One of the things that Pam offers to do with Michael is play rock band. She says they'll play Billy Joel songs on rock band. Now, first of all, Billy Joel songs were never on rock band. He hadn't given permission to use his songs. So this is something that we made up. And the reason that I would know this is because I got really, really into rock band for a while. And I don't know if you remember, but I used to come to set and I used to talk about it. And I even had some folks over to my house for a barbecue to play rock band. And I kind of like to imagine that maybe that's how rock band made it into this episode. I do remember you having a thing for rock band. I was not part of it. No, lady, I know that you

couldn't because it was a late night thing and you had a child and I was still a baby. You were my friend who was still playing video games late at night. Exactly. I'm sure this was me at my most annoying for you as a new mother. But you did love it. It had to have made its way in because of you. I'm going to co-sign on that. Okay, thank you. Well, now Michael is going to have his orange lips talking head. Yeah. What? Right? I noticed it too. Yeah. He has this talking head where he says he likes Donna. And if it's wrong to keep seeing her, he doesn't care. And he has orange lips. And the message boards after this episode had all these comments. Why did Michael have orange lips? Were there any fan theories? Because I have one. There was a fan theory. First of all, there was no

mention of it in the script. But the one fan theory is that his lips are stained from kissing Donna who wears red lipstick. Okay. Here was my theory. Okay. So later in the episode, he comes in with all of these oranges. And I wondered if maybe we shot out of order and see a bunch of oranges. Oh my gosh, lady. I'm going to go with you. I mean, I don't know. Well, how many oranges do you have to eat for your lips to take on some color? But that's all I could think of was, well, we really did eat a bunch of oranges. We did. You might be right. Well, the bullpen is really going to confront Michael on having this affair. Even Meredith is like, Hey, I've never cheated, been cheated on, or used to cheat with. She has a whole talking head where she says she asks everyone in

the room if they are in a relationship. Yeah. She has standards. But out in the bullpen, Michael is going to defend himself. He says we are the Paris of Northeastern Pennsylvania. And in Paris, it is rude for a woman to have any less than four lovers. He's just one of Donna's four Parisian lovers. Yeah. And he also says her husband is like a scummy sports guy. And Andy's like, Wait a second, Michael, are you making assumptions here? And Michael just doesn't want to hear it. Mm hmm. I want to point out at seven minutes, three seconds, there is a great shot of the whole entire bullpen. And if you notice, Dwight and Angela are not in this scene. Well, are you in the conference room? Yes, we're in the conference room. But it meant that Rain and I had part of

the day off. Oh, because we don't even see you in the background of the conference room. That's right. Lady, whenever I would get a script where I clearly had a storyline that was like segmented off from the other storylines, and I knew that I would have days off, I would get so excited, and I would go to Randy or to Jenny O'Keeffe, who planned our schedule. And I would say, What day are you going to shoot the stuff I'm not in? Because that was the day that I could like go to the doctor, you know, you could make your doctor's appointment, or whatever you needed to do that were like things that have to happen during daytime working hours that we could never do. Yeah. Andy is going to share that he is a cuckold, which is a Shakespearean term for a man

whose woman is cheating on him. And you know what, he lived it, and he doesn't ever want to do it again. Yeah, Andy has a very personal attachment to this issue with Michael. He is going to kind of take it on. Yes, he's going to confront Michael about it in Michael's office. Andy says in any cheating movie, the person getting cheated on is the hero. You're Ali Larder, I'm Beyonce. To which Michael says, I am Beyonce always. Yeah. Yeah. We had a fan question from Cassie M in Brisbane, Australia. When Andy goes to try and talk Michael into understanding that what he is doing is wrong, he references the Ali Larder and Beyonce movie obsessed. Well, that movie has Idris Elba, aka Charles Miner in it. And I just thought it was funny that the office was in a world where

Idris Elba exists and Michael knows him from the movie, but also Charles Miner exists as a completely different person. Oh my gosh, we're in the matrix. We are. Well, somehow Andy is going to convince Michael that they should go meet Donna's husband, that they should scope him out. And Michael thinks that's great because then Andy will see what a bad person he is. Yeah. Michael says he can't wait to see this jerk who's making him cheat on his wife and that he should punch him in the face for what he's making Michael do to her. Yeah. Well, listen, should we take a break before we go to this baseball game lady? Yes, because at the baseball game, we're going to meet Andy's alternate persona, Trevor. And I can't wait to share with you about Trevor. We are at a baseball game. Andy is really into

it. He's singing. He's making up sort of like baseball commentary. Michael's like, can you just act normal? Just, you know, blend in. Andy's like, I am the one blending in. Yeah, it's kind of true. I mean, you want to show support of your team. At nine minutes and 21 seconds, I have a couple of cool background catches. There are two background actors sitting next to Andy and Michael wearing custom Scranton Wolverine t-shirts. And behind Michael and Andy, I spotted a background person who is having their best day ever. As someone who was a background performer, I saw this person and I thought, that's a great gig. I would have been so happy to have that gig. Lady, they have their earphones in. They only have one in, you know, so they've got one ear free to listen to the action.

And then they are probably just listening to whatever, a podcast, their favorite music. Their job that day was to sit on a bench behind Ed Helms and Steve Carell and just listen to whatever they wanted to all day in the fresh air and sunshine. Yeah, when I was on 90210 as a background performer, I would get very excited when we would have sorority meetings because we were just indoors in the air conditioning and I just got to sit there. Yeah. Well, lady, you know what I'm just remembering now, and I can't believe I didn't bring this up earlier. My best day as a background performer was the day that I played a field hockey player in a phone commercial and it was shot outside of the city. And so I actually got to ride on a bus with all the other background

performers. We stayed overnight in a hotel. They just gave me like a random roommate. Yeah, but it was like a little vacation. And then the next day, I pretended to be a field hockey player because I because I was able to put that down on my background casting list because of my high school field hockey experience. But I don't think I would have qualified for smitties. I was gonna say I was not professional level field. Barbara would have hung up on you. She did hang up on me earlier today. Back of the office, Jim and Pam are completely asleep at their deaths. Yeah. And they get busted. Well, Jim was supposed to be the lookout. Gabe says, come to my office, which cracks me up because he doesn't have an office. He just has a desk outside of the break room. Yeah. But he's like,

please come to my office. And they're like, oh, crap. Yeah, he forgives them pretty quickly because they take responsibility. But then he starts droning on and on. And Pam and Jim start dozing off while he's talking. This is such a relatable moment. We have all been in some meeting and just fighting to stay awake, fighting to keep your eyes open. Well, sleep deprivation is a real thing. I have suffered from it. Lady, I'm sure you've suffered from it, right? Yeah. Well, according to the sleep foundation, a third of adults suffer from sleep deprivation, like at any given time. So let me ask you, how much sleep do you get per night on average, would you say? Oh, gosh, it just depends. I mean, you know, we still are at that age where if you have a kid

that can't sleep, they come in your room, you know, anywhere from five hours to eight hours, if I'm lucky. They recommend that adults get seven to nine hours of sleep per night. Here are the primary signs of sleep deprivation. Slowed thinking, reduced attention span, worsened memory, poor or risky decision making, lack of energy and feelings of stress, anxiety or irritability. Yeah. You are also more likely to crave junk food and gain weight if you aren't getting enough sleep because you start eating to kind of like compensate for the energy that you didn't get at night. I mean, yeah. Well, I can definitely relate to the irritability because I feel like, you know, I definitely get grumpy when I don't get sleep. Yeah. I get grouchy if I haven't had

enough sleep. And I also get grouchy if I haven't had enough to eat. So you do not want to catch me on a sleep deprived day while I'm also hungry. That would be bad news. I feel like I've been with you on one of those days. Oh, lady, I'm sure you have. It's a travel day sometimes. We don't get food when we need it and we're tired. Yes, exactly. I love that they're meeting with Gabe and with Gabe being like, okay, so great. And they're like, what? What was he even talking about? They have no idea. They've just agreed to help him do something and they have no idea what he said. Well, over in the conference room, the mediator says, I have to tell you, this is a solid contract and Dwight is shocked that he could not find any holes in this contract. Not only that, the mediator

says, listen, I can't force someone to have a child with another person. So Dwight, you have to pay Angela $30,000 in damages. Yeah. Dwight refuses to pay Angela. He doesn't have that kind of money, he says. I mean, he has it, but it's buried very deep and he would have to dig past a certain person to get it. So Angela presents him with an alternative idea. How about they have intercourse to completion, five individual times rendered at her discretion. And Dwight agrees. The mediator's like, this is getting dangerously close to prostitution. So I might have to step back here. I want you guys to know, Phil Shea made us prop procreation punch cards that you have and put in our book. That's right, that I still have. It's in our book, The Office BFFs. Four weeks on

the New York Times bestseller list. Yeah. Yeah. It tickles me. I open my desk drawer. I keep it right in my top desk drawer. I see it almost every day. My procreation punch card. NBC.com at this time also shared Dwight and Angela's procreation contract. What? Yeah. It's in web archives. You can still see it. There is a lot is pages long. Oh my God. I'm going to read you just a few things that were on this very long and detailed contract. Number one, if the child is breached, he must be turned around in the womb via mind power. I'm guessing Dwight wrote that one. Number two, should the child have mutant powers, parties agree to send the child to a school that aids the child in harnessing his talents for good. Okay. I think Dwight also wrote that one.

Number three, see if you can guess who wrote this one. Child shall not have a puppy, dog, nor any toys shaped like puppies or dogs. Cats should be treated with high regard and all other animals regarded only for their usefulness and meat. Yeah. I think that's a combo, Angela and Dwight, contribution. It is so funny to me how detailed this contract is. You know our writers had a lot of fun with it and it's still archived on the internet. I could not love that more. I would buy that as a little mini booklet, pamphlet thing if someone would print it. Well, speaking of cats, Dwight is going to have a stipulation that their intercourse cannot take place in Angela's lumpy bed. This is one of my

favorite Angela speeches. Fans quoted to me, I thought we should hear it. But not in your bed, it's lumpy. Those lumps are cats and those cats have names and those names are Ember, Milky Way, Diane, and Lumpy. We had a fan question lady from Abby S in Atlanta, Georgia. What does Abby want to know? Abby would like to know why Angela does not mention Bandit, Princess Lady, Mr. Ash, or Petals. She only mentions Ember, Milky Way, Diane, and Lumpy. Is this because the other cats are not allowed to sleep in the bed? Oh, I think Princess Lady has her own bed. That's right next to Angela's bed. I mean, there might be some senior cats that have special needs. There is a system. Don't doubt it. All cats are sleeping perfectly where

they're supposed to, and they are treated very well. Okay, good. Thank you for clearing that up. Back in the baseball field, Andy says it seems like Donna's husband, Coach Shane, is really well liked. And Michael's like, oh, look how he high fives people. He probably does that to Donna. Donna, you did the dishes. High five. Michael is really trying here to find fault in Coach Shane. The next scene at the baseball field is super cringy because they are going to speak to Coach Shane. It's awkward. It's so awkward. Andy can't stop talking. He's what you're later going to find out. He's playing his character, Trevor. He's also going to introduce Coach Shane to his friend Sheldon. Yes. And then Michael and Shane are going to have a very awkward

handshake through the fence. At 13 minutes and six seconds, we had a fan catch from Joshua P and Cincinnati who said, what is the story with the bleachers at this baseball game? Earlier at the game, there are several rows of bleachers behind Michael and Andy, but in this scene, they suddenly disappear and you can see just background behind Michael, were these scenes shot on different days or in different locations? Well, this is a really good catch, Joshua. I thought the same thing. I was like, oh my gosh, they are on different bleachers. That is because in the script, it was scripted as such, quote, Michael and Andy now take seats closer to the foul. And this is so they can talk to Shane. But we cut out the part where you see

them move. So it looks like they sort of instantaneously are sitting somewhere else. Well, Michael is going to have a talking head and his back is going to be to the field. He's going to say his heart is racing because he just shook the hand of this man who he's having an affair with his wife. And you know, who else does that? James Frickin Bond. During this talking head, Jenna, there was a pop fly that was hurtling toward Steve, but his back was towards the field and he didn't see it coming. It's in the bloopers, Randall Einhorn quickly steps forward and grabs Steve. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And then, of course, they're all like, everyone okay, everyone okay? And Steve does a funny bit because

the way he ducked, it looks like an awkward dance move. He's like, oh, that's crazy. Oh my gosh. I thought you were going to say that Randall Einhorn reached out and caught the ball. Oh, that would have been amazing just with like one bare hand. Yeah, that's very Randall. So Andy's plan of trying to shame Michael does not work. Michael is emboldened. He returns to the office. He's throwing out orange slices. He hits Oscar with an orange slice. Oscar says, why would you throw something wet at me? Remind me of Pam's line, please don't throw garbage at me. Me too. We find out he stole the orange slices from the team. Well, it's not the first thing he took from Coach Shane. Oh, you know, by the way, at 14 minutes and 52 seconds, we're going to see

that orange slice hit Oscar's shirt and it leaves a wet spot. Yeah. But at 15 minutes 30 seconds, Oscar has another line. And I noticed it as well as Christian B from Chattanooga, Tennessee, that Oscar no longer has a stain from orange hitting him in the shoulder. I caught that too. It has magically disappeared. Well, this is when Andy tells the group, you know what, he doesn't condone this affair. He even tried to get Michael to meet Coach Shane. Here is the deleted storyline that I loved so much. Andy actually had more to say to the bullpen that got cut. Here's what was in the shooting draft. Andy, I just want to say that I do not condone this. And I tried everything to stop it, including adopting a persona of Trevor, a nosy but affable

stranger who asks super leading guilt tripping questions. And then it would have gone to a talking head where Andy explains who Trevor is. You have to hear it. Exactly. Who is Trevor? Well, he's a regular guy with a passing interest in high school sports. It's a bit of a foodie, loves documentaries. If you were to ask Trevor who he is, he'd probably just say, I'm a dad. But with layers, you know, he's actually inquisitive, which gets underneath those layers. I don't know, he's just a delight. I agree. I love Trevor. I mean, I love Trevor. I think Andy wants to be Trevor. Now Kelly and Ryan are having just one of their silly arguments in the kitchen. Michael's going to enter and just take Meredith's birthday cake and just start eating it.

Jenna, this is in the bloopers. I think there's like five takes of Steve eating that cake. And they kept laughing because he had to talk with such a big mouthful. But it cracked me up because you really see how many takes that we do sometimes. And Steve had to do take after take, taking this huge bite of cake. Steve is very, very funny when he talks with food in his mouth. He really is. He's a very funny comedic eat talker. I don't know what that talent is, but he should put it on his resume. I noticed in this scene that the cake box says that it's from Fresh from Mom's Bakery. But I could not find a local Scranton Bakery with this name. It made me wonder if it was a fakie box that we had made from the fakie food making people. I bet it's fakie box. It was a

real cake. And I did notice it was not an ice cream cake. So we didn't make that mistake again as the party planning committee. That's right. Ryan is so enamored by this version of Michael. He's like, wow, Michael takes what he wants. And this inspires him to march up to Aaron's desk at front reception and tell her he finds her attractive. He wants to sleep with her. She's like, what about Kelly? And he's like, yeah. And she's like, is this a joke? And immediately he backpedals and he's like, yup. This would have rounded out the Ryan threesome storyline that started in Secretary's Day. It was in the deleted scenes that I shared about. He just was determined to have a little tryst with Kelly and Aaron. Our next montage is explained in a Dwight talking

head where we learn that Dwight is going to try to sabotage his sperm count by doing a number of things to his testicles. Yeah, he's going to hold a microwave that's microwaving something to his crotch. He's going to bang on his balls with drumsticks, throw yellow pages at his crotch, and also bounce harshly on a bicycle and then crash into a door. I was curious if any of these things would reduce his sperm count. Oh gosh. I'll tell you Dwight is doing all the wrong things. What should he be doing? Well, first of all, I believe he's microwaving a cup of coffee. If he wants to reduce his sperm count, he should drink lots and lots and lots of coffee because too much coffee can reduce your sperm count. Also, he should try to make

his crotch very, very warm by sitting in a sauna. These are according to U Chicago Medicine. Warm crotch. Warm crotch. Also, if he ate too much of certain foods like foods high in soy products or high fat dairy products, that could reduce his sperm count. Yeah. So, well Dwight, you didn't have to bang on your balls so much. You didn't. Your sperm is going to be hardy. Incidentally, another thing that I read is that you know that myth where if you ejaculate less, you'll have more sperm. Maybe the sperm will be more potent when you do want to conceive. Have you heard that myth? You know, like you're trying to conceive a child and so don't masturbate. Right. Okay. Because you want to save it for the baby making. Save it up. Yeah, no. You should ejaculate more. Oh,

no. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't like save up the sperm. It's not like a little bank. You don't have a bank in your testes. That's right. So actually, you should ejaculate daily and that will increase your sperm count, folks. So really what we needed was a scene of Dwight drinking coffee with soy milk in a sauna. Yeah. That would have worked. Well, the printer is out of paper. Michael isn't even going to add more. Creed, like Ryan, is like, wow, he don't give an F about nothing. Yeah, exactly. Michael's going to say he's got big balls. But Phyllis is going to be the one who I think finally gets to Michael. The scene is so funny. Phyllis not making eye contact with Michael cracked me up. Mm hmm. Michael's going to pretend like it didn't get to him and he's going

to leave the office and he's going to start driving to a motel where he's going to meet up with Donna. I have a little background catch while he's driving and thinking, you know, he's really contemplating what's happening. Yes. His seatbelt is still frayed. Remember in Secretary's day? I love it. Yeah. We talked about a deleted scene where Michael tells Aaron when he's stressed out, sometimes he chews on his seatbelt. Well, I thought that this driving location looked new. This did not look like our usual driving street without the palm trees. They're rolling hills. I asked Randy about it and he actually said, good eye, Jenna, which made me feel proud. And he confirmed that it was a stretch of road in Santa Clarita that was

next to the baseball field on Rockwell Canyon Road. Well, that explains it. Guys, Michael does not make it to the motel. He leaves Donna high and dry. We see her sitting in her car waiting for him. Do you know what that hotel was, Ange? No, but it had a bright orange door. Yeah. Do you know the Tangerine Hotel in Burbank? Oh, is it now? You would know it if you drove by it. Yes, I do. That was the hotel we used. And it has the bright orange door. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. Randy told me that. I was like, yes. Oh, my gosh. I knew, I knew it, but I didn't know how I knew it. It's still there, famous hotel. Michael's going to have a

talking head where he tells us that he feels good. He broke up with Donna and he knows he made the right decision. But then, of course, he broke my heart a little bit. He had to choose between happiness or living with himself. And he chose living with himself, which means he had to give up his happiness. Yeah. And now he's going to be, you know, lonely again. Yeah. But he does the right thing. He does the right thing. And he's going to go back to the office and grab his ice cream. Mm-hmm. Pam and Jim don't know if they can make it through the rest of the day. They're really struggling. And Daryl tells them where they can go to sleep in the warehouse. There's this little secret spot. Daryl loves it so much, sometimes he thinks about it when he's at home

trying to go to sleep. I don't know if this was on the bloopers, Angela, but we could not get through this scene with Craig when Craig was like wistfully talking about the sleeping spot, like his voice. He's like, sometimes I think about it so warm, like we would laugh. It was so funny. It's not in the bloopers, but there is a really funny Daryl talking head in the bloopers from this episode. It was deleted, so it's not in the episode. But Daryl shares that he used to cheat, but then he watched the movie Love Actually and that really set him straight and really got to him. And he kept laughing through it, and it's really funny. Well, I guess Angela has picked one of her moments, one of her five moments with Dwight, and they are going to rendezvous back in their

meeting place in the warehouse. Dwight says, Angela, are you warmed up? She says, no. And he goes, why is that always my responsibility? And then they go in and they shut the door and she goes, what have you done to yourself? You start hearing some noises. He's like, no kissing. This is a really awkward thing to overhear. And guess who's overhearing it? Yeah, Jim and Pam. Poor Jim and Pam. All they wanted to do was go to this special little sleeping nook that Daryl told them about in the warehouse. And now they're overhearing Dwight and Angela. So I have to tell you, getting to our sleeping spot was actually very complicated. Yeah, you guys are up really high. Yes, we are actually up on a shelf in the warehouse. It's a special thing that they built. Randy reminded me

that we actually had to practice getting up there using a scissor lift. Wow. And it involved a whole rehearsal the week prior with a Universal Studios safety officer named Ian Bass Gillespie. This person was in attendance to sign off on our use of the scissor lift. And it was a big deal. But we made it up there. And we're laying truly up on this high shelf in this little nook. And I will tell you right now, it was so comfy, cozy. It was everything that Daryl advertised it to be. And it was a dream to just sort of get to kind of nap for part of my workday. All I could think about when I saw you guys up there was, what if you have to pee? That's what I always think. Like, could you imagine? That is why I never want to sleep on the top bunk of a bunk bed. I know.

Well, we had a fan question from Michelle S. in Melbourne, Australia that I thought was very wise. Michelle said, the spot where the warehouse guys take their naps is right above Dwight and Angela's sex spot. Does this mean that the warehouse guys know about Dwight and Angela's affair? I mean, they've been there the whole time. I think the warehouse guys do know about your affair. Oh, for sure. I don't think you guys are hiding it from them at all. Clearly, we haven't been hiding it very well from anyone. Exactly. Well, the episode is going to end with Michael exiting the building and he's approached by a news team. The reporter says, Michael Scott, do you want to make a comment on the rumors?

Michael sighs. He's like, ah, I have done some very bad things, things of which I am not proud. I would like to publicly apologize to the coach and the players and I vow to never listen to my bodily instincts ever again. The reporter is confused. She says, I'm talking about the saber printers that catch on fire. And Michael's like, oh, okay, I was talking about what, wait, what? Yeah. So Randy told me that this was like a standards and practices issue. This scene. This scene. Why? That's what I asked. He said that they wanted us to create a fictitious news channel. They didn't want us to use the real NBC affiliate, which is WBRE. But we had established WBRE in the show before. So they had to get a signed clearance agreement from the real WBRE

in Scranton. And eventually we were given a pass so that we could use the actual call letters in the show. Oh, yeah. And you can see it very clearly on the microphone. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, this is going to set up a huge story arc now for Michael. He's going to end up being the spokesperson for Sabre. Joe is going to come back. It's all going to go down next week in the whistleblower. Yes. The season finale whistleblower. Well, that was the chump. Thank you for rewatching with us. Thank you so much, Aaron Scherr, for sending in those audio clips and sharing with us about writing this episode. Thank you to Randy Cordray for always giving us awesome behind-the-scenes details. And I would like to thank whoever put together that blooper reel on the season six

DVD because much like Trevor, I am finding it delightful. I would like to thank my engineer Casey here in New York. We did this podcast with me in New York and Angela in Los Angeles. Casey and I might take off right now and get some of that lobster ice cream. Okay. Report back. We'll see you next week. We'll see you next time. Thank you for listening to Office Ladies. Office Ladies is produced by Earwolf, Jenna Fisher, and Angela Kinsey. Our show is executive produced by Cody Fisher. Our producer is Cassie Jerkins. Our sound engineer is Sam Kiefer. And our associate producer is Ainsley Bubico. Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton. For ad-free versions

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