Offline with Jon Favreau - 220: Adam Friedland Just Wants to Understand

Episode Date: January 31, 2026

Adam Friedland sits down with Jon to make sense of his unlikely rise from the self deprecating (and self defecating) cohost of Cum Town to…a public intellectual? "The Adam Friedland Show" has a knack for jolting politicians and celebrities out of their canned talking points, and its host shares what he thinks of the format he initially set out to skewer, the questions we need to be asking about the ICE crackdown, and his issues with Republicans and Democrats alike. 

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I don't want to go, like, you know, white privilege... I'm from Comptown. Right? Like, I'm from a problematic white guy podcast. But it's just like, do we know? We have to ask the next question. I mean, because, like, I grew up in the Southwest, and I grew up around a lot of Latinos.

And, like, they're just people that want to make more money for their families. Yeah. And I think about the ice guys. And I think about, like, what it must be like to have a job where there's a kid screaming. crying and you're like arresting their parents. I know. What is that job like? Like why? Like getting that job and it's just like we abolish eyes. They're going to reintegrate into society. We don't even know their faces. I'm John Favreau and you just heard from this week's guest Adam Friedland,

comedian and host of the Adam Friedland show. Some of you may know Adam. He was one of the co-hosts of a podcast called Comtown for many years. He now hosts. He now hosts. the Adam Friedland show, which is YouTube show where he does long-form interviews with politicians, celebrities, entertainers, all kinds of different people. He's got some really big-name guests.

He also had me on the show recently. And he is hilarious, as you might expect. But also, I think I wanted to have him on because his interviewing style, he really, like, gets people to open up. And he's funny and he makes jokes, but he also, he's like, very respectful of his guests, and he is good at sort of drawing people out, making them feel comfortable,

and then really trying to understand who they are and getting them to say things they don't say in the typical media tours that a lot of prominent people go on. So this was maybe one of the funniest conversations I've had on the show. We could have talked for another couple hours. It's hard to actually describe what we talked about. So I think you're just going to have to listen. And trust me, you're going to love it. Here's Adam Friedland. Thanks for doing this. Thank you. Thanks for having me.

I did your show. You did my show. Completed the circle jerk. Dude, yeah, absolutely. The 69 of podcast. The 69 of podcast. Talk show, whatever this is. Whatever this is.

It's a real talk show. How would you describe the Adam Freeland show for people who? It's the smartest. The smartest. It's an Algonquin roundtable. It's, oh my God. It's like a firing line. It's Foucault and,

Chomsky, it's basically that. Yeah. It's deep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's basically... No, no, I do a long-form interview show with celebrities and politicians and... Just everyone. Yeah, we were scraping the bottom of the breath. With me.

Yeah, yeah. Before that... You're neither... Yeah, yeah. We had a fun time. We had a fun time. We had a great time. I haven't seen it. Rift says for the bruce. Because I was like... Why did you wash it? Because... It's mad, funny.

It's like... I only have so much time to consume content. and content with me in it. No, this is, I didn't send it to Obama. That's what you're saying right now. I thought the agreement was. It is the agreement. You would send it directly to President Barack Obama.

You know what? I'm going to do that. Yeah, yeah, okay. Just say, I haven't watched this ship, but maybe you might like it. I did all, but like I got all, you know, a lot of messages from friends and like, none of them were, they thought it was really funny.

It's very funny. They're like, you did, you did, okay. Like, they thought you were going to like, you know, I don't know. Just destroy me or something like that. We had a kitchen table conversation. We did have a kitchen table conversation. Someone said that they appreciated that.

We did the nail it. There was a nail and palin. There was two. There was a callback. You very, yeah, you did a callback. I dapped you on the callback. Yeah. Well, because you used it again with Scott Jennings.

I can't stop thinking about it. He did not pick up on the nailing panel thing. I thought that Scott would talk about that. We'll get to him. I want to talk about him. He's never. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Before you did. What's his deal? He did Iraq or something? He did Iraq. Yeah. It was his idea? That was his idea.

Oh my God. He gave Cheney the other. Yeah. And Rumsfeld. Yeah, yeah. That's my boy, Scott. You did a comedy podcast before the show, Comtown. And you once shit your pants on air?

Like, right before. Right before. Would you say that's the moment you're best known for in Comstead? I hype it up and now I have to stop talking. It's just like, if you're saying it, Obama's watching it. Like, what are you doing? Everyone is talking about it. If you Google Adam Friedland shit or poop, you're going to get a lot of hits.

No, I'm most known for being the most pivotal funniest one. And just the linchpin. No, yeah, I did a very immature podcast and then somehow I've... Just landed here. It really was not calculated. It was a series of events. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

Accidents. Tell me about the names that lost out to Comtown. I don't know. Nick chose the worst name. Yeah. I mean, it was kind of smart because they didn't like, they couldn't write it in the newspaper. So you could kind of go under the radar.

Yeah, but Saab was on Seth Myers. He said it on TV. It's the Trump era. You can say anything. Yeah. Comtown. It was going to say you got like, yeah, get different spellings.

It's fine. Yeah, yeah, it's free speech. You know, people would be like, it's Comtown. Cumed. Yeah, he did that for Kimmel, dude. He did some free speech. Yeah. I don't know.

It became very successful. like a beloved. I've actually listened to like a because we never listened to it. We thought it was bad. Yeah. And then the people that liked it online,

they were annoying. So we're like, it has to be bad. But I've only like listened to it in the last year and a half and it's the funniest thing ever. I mean, Nick, it's hilarious. He's a genius.

I mean, we were sitting there like upset. We're like, this sucks and we suck. When can we stop doing this? Nick's like, can I get a job at radio? Radio Shack again. When you... It was not fulfilling. So this is like,

so you did comedy for a while, you are now into sort of, you're like news and politics adjacent. Yeah. With some of your guests. But like, you lived in D.C. for all.

You went to G.W. You were like a political person way back. We were, we were fellow residents of D.C. I was there when, when you was charmed by the nation's capital. Your old man won. I was so charmed.

I mean, when they, when they just, the soul cycles came. I mean, we did great things with it. Oh, you were there for Soul Cycle? Yeah. I had left by that.

Every time I go back, it's like, it is a, it's just, it's ethnic cleansing. I mean, it's a horrible way. It's just a completely different city. I was actually there when they built the Target at Columbia Heights. Oh, I remember that. I went to a punk show. Oh, I've been to that, yeah.

In a basement, my freshman year of college before the Target, and it was terrifying. On the Green Line, the Columbia Heights stop, I was like, I was like, I'm going to, this is a scare. Like, I've gone too far. Yeah, it was like, I don't know where the hell I am. So there were no streetlights or, you know, there's a tumbleweed. Now there's soul cycle everywhere.

They've gentrified your shit out of that city. Yeah, D.C. has changed. I think what is it? Citizens United, probably. Do you think that did it? I do kind of think so. Yeah. It's just a flooding in of money. So much money. Yeah, it has to be. It's a very small city in that, like, you, I mean, it's small. city population-wise, but also because everyone is political or so many people are in politics.

In your world, not my world. I feel like it's more of a company town than almost any other city. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe San Francisco with tech. Some of the worst people on earth. That's what I'm saying. That's why eventually I was... And ugly.

Don't get me started. Oh my gosh. The talent. You're like a DC-9, 9 and a half. I'm an 11 in D.C. Yeah, and I happen to be a L.A. negative 3. Same. Yeah.

It's tough. I remember is, yeah. Did you want to go? Like legislative aids, like getting like, making like $23,000 a year and then saying that they have like someone's number in their Blackberry and they're like, I'm important. And I'm like, you're a loser. First thing you ask someone when you meet someone in D.C. You're like, oh, what do you do? Who do you work for?

Oh, shut up. Who do you work for? I work for the Iraq War. I have the CEO of the Iraq War's phone number. Isn't that cool? Blackwater. And I'm like, you're still ugly. Did you ever want to go into politics?

Yeah, I thought I liked politics a lot growing up, and then I moved there. Freshman year, you remember that you run for like your, like, floor representative of your dorm? No, I didn't do that. There's like a guy, not you, but there's a guy campaigning. Like, it's the third day of college. Yeah. And he's like shaking hands. And you're like, this guy's a dildo.

And then they all like got internships at like the Bush White House and stuff. Like those guys. And then Barack Obama ruined it. Was it D.C. and like the people in D.C. that turned you off from like going into politics? Or were you just like, this is not for me? Yeah. There's something about that just like, it's pretty rare. I mean, like, I meet a lot of politicians now doing the talk show. It's like it's pretty rare you meet like someone that's a real one, I feel like, you know.

I think Big Z, I got in a sense that he was, because I'm completely full of shit as a person. That's my advantage in doing the interviews, I think. But I completely lack substance. I know exactly how I mask it and cover it up. I'm a closet of homosexual. I mean, no. I mean, like, I don't know why I said. Obama, I'm just kidding.

You do a shitload of research, though. I do a lot of research. But I know when someone is trying to sound smart. Yeah. And I know when there's like no basis for it. But I don't even know if it's an advantage for me. I think people just know when someone's full of shit now. And I think that that's going to have to be something that's considered in D.C.

At a certain point. Even when Trump's lying, he's not full of shit. You know what I mean? Right. That is what people... He's authentically lied. People say that about Trump is that, like, I know he's not telling the truth, but he's not like... He's lying for us.

Yeah. Or I believe him. Yeah. Like, I believe his bullshit. Yeah. I know the lies aren't right. But then on the other hand, like, he's like, we're going to take Venezuela's oil. it's like, yeah, we kind of always do.

But the honesty is like... To somebody say it's like, I've never heard someone be honest about it. Yeah, it's not like... I'm like, what are you doing? You're supposed to lie. Like, he could say something like, we are helping them rebuild their oil infrastructure. And then hopefully they will do some, you know,

they'll do some business with us and everyone will benefit. Instead, he's just like, no, we're taking it. We're stealing. Yeah, we're out of the ground. We're going to put it in barrels. Even though that's not even how people transport oil anymore. And we're going to ship the barrels right here. I've never heard anyone.

I'm going to sell it. I'm going to put the money in a Katari bank and then that's it. Yeah, yeah. I'm put it in my shit coin. It's so trashy. It is a trashy way to. It's so trashy. Do you see Eric Adams made like three million dollars off of stop anti-semitism

coin? He's another one who just does it. He's learned from Trump that like, who the fuck cares? Oh, my. Like I'm leaving and I'm going, I'm leaving office. I'm heading to Turkey. He already didn't give a fuck before he left off. Yeah.

Apparently, you might come back into power. I might go to Guantanamo for this. But apparently he had eight phones on him at all times for different crime. Yeah, you need one for you. You had a bag of eight phones for crimes. You want to mix up your crimes. Yeah, he's the turkey line. The campaign fundraiser.

He's awesome. Zoron is boring. He's following the rules. I offered him a hat from the show when he came in. No, he didn't want the hat? I can't take a gift over $10. No way. I'm like, just shut.

Oh, wow. What a fucking stickler. Just go to Turkey, you pussy. No, no. He's, uh, I actually... Like, well, that's my best friend. You basically live the dream of every bearded Brooklyn leftist by interviewing. I have low test officer.

I can't grow up here. Interviewing, uh, is Oran Mum Dani. What was it like? Bearded Brooklyn leftist. Come on, dude. We're all right wing now in New York. Oh, that's true. That's true.

That's the cool. Graded Brooklyn Trump supporters. I don't. don't know what they are. I don't even think they're even Trump. I think they're just like fuck it all kind of thing. Zorunza Sala, Zorunza centristian show. They're like

Chochescu or something. I don't know. They're like, they're like so, yeah, I don't know. They're like, no, but uh, uh, with him, like we both like soccer, right? We both like the same soccer team. And uh, this

player, they used to play for Arsul sent a video in. This, uh, guy Hector Bellarin and the president of the team, Reale-Betis in Spain, brought two jerseys for me and the mayor. That's sick. And he came by and he was like, this is for you and Signor Adams. He didn't know that. He didn't know that it was the new mayor.

That's really funny. I hit him up about that and he's like, this is my Turkish Airlines. I was like, we're best friends. We are best friends. Do not worry about the permits. We have a friend in the city. We're good. You guys are good.

So the show started as a joke that you didn't... Like, kind of to make fun of me. Right. But then at some point, like, it got serious. Talk to me about the show's evolution. Like, when you were like, okay, you know what? I want to try it this. I want to do it this way.

This is what I want to get out of this. Yeah, I don't know. I just found that I enjoyed it. And, like, at first, I was, like, not that good at it. And... And your view is hard. Well, it's like, I understand. So it's like the only reference to like talking to someone is like crowdwork.

So I'm like, someone comes to that. I'm like, what do you do for a living? And then they're like, I'm an elementary school teacher. And then you're like, you're a pedophile. You know, like everyone laughs. It's really fun. It's huge on TikTok. But like it's not like an interview, right?

Right. So I had to kind of like figure out like how to access like what talking to a person was like, it just as a person. And then. To figure out what socializing was like. Yeah. And then, I don't know. It's just, I kind of try to do something that's a little bit, there's enough podcasts, right?

So, like, there's like, you don't want to do just another thing. So you just want to do something that's a little bit unique. And so I try to kind of make it distinct from all the other shows that you see online. And I don't book, like, other comics. Like, there's, like, a revolving door of other comics on, like, Rogan and Theo and stuff like that. Yeah. And I'm like, well, this is going to be something distinct and that's, like, produced and heavily edited or researched. and like, I was like, I'm a little try.

I'm 35. I may as well try. You're trying. It's scary. The sets based on the Dick Cavett show. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know much about the Dick Cavett show. And then I was like,

Have you watched? Yes. So after doing your show, I'm pretty good way. I started like digging into some whole. It's amazing. It's amazing. How much were you like intentionally trying to at least like echo? It was a joke.

It was a joke that they were making me into a public intellectual. But then accidentally it kind of was real. too. Because I experienced your show before knowing anything about Dick Cavett, then when I went back to Dick Cavett, I was like, oh, this is like what Adam's show is becoming. The host isn't funny and the conversations kind of maybe could be interesting sometimes. No, I mean, like, he talked to people in a way, like people that were famous in a way where you saw them kind of in a more genuine light and like for who they really are.

Yeah. And that's kind of something that you could kind of extract through doing a long form interview. And it's really smart for me to do long-form content in an era where people just love... Just scrolling right past it. They just love it. They love things that are over 30 seconds. Yeah. I always sit and watch the whole thing.

I watched the... Have you seen the Lester Maddox Jim Brown? Oh my gosh. It's legendary. Holy shit. He smacks his ass up. He's also a tough job for Cabot there to, like, moderate this. For people who don't know, Lester Maddox is like this, you know, racist governor of Georgia.

1970, Jim Brown, NFL, Jim Brown, also in a civil rights activist. He retired to be a civil rights activist and an actor. Yeah, and then they just go at it about... The thing that struck me about that was watching it again is I'm like, Lester Maddox in that interview is making arguments about race and civil rights that you still hear in different forms from the right today. It's like, I'm not for forced segregation. I'm just also not for forced integration.

I'm in the middle. It's kind of back. And you're like, wait, what? But, you know, correct me if you're a little bit older than me, but like in the scope of our lifetimes, that's never been a thing. It kind of feels like it's a thing now. It is a thing now. It feels like new. It is new.

I know it's a throwback, but for us, it's like, I never saw this. Correct. Which is why I was like, I'm like, oh, this is how it used to happen back then. Oh, yeah. Back in the olden days when it was racist. It's like 70, too, right? So the Civil Rights Act had passed and the, you. I mean, it was right after King is assassinated, right?

Is it going to be old-fashioned and be like, racism is wrong? Yeah, that is the worst thing. You're going to be like, what was that when they were all like? I still think it's terrible. How did they let Barack Obama be president? Instead of going back and being like, how did we have Trump? People would be like, how did we get Obama? That was crazy.

The catastrophe. What a national catastrophe. Did you think about getting Dick Havitt on the show? He's like apparently 99 or something. Yeah, yeah. Still kicking. He's out in Montauk or something, apparently. I don't know.

You should get him on. Do you have his number? You know? You can? You have a real company here. We have a real company. Can you get me Barack Obama? I was going to say, we have to get to have its number from Barack Obama.

He definitely knows him. They see each other at Bohemian Grove or wherever they go. Martha's Vineyard? Martha's Vineyard. That's what I was called. Bohemian Grove. I forgot the name. It was a nice sounding name.

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You have a massage booker. We need Stiney from the Nelke Boys this week. It's crazy. He actually, that's ironically, he did, BB in the middle of the whole thing. He went on the NELC...

It's a bizarre world we live in, right? It is a bizarre world. It's fucking weird. A chugging podcast. Remember, we used to think Jerry Springer was nasty. Jerry Springer seems erudite. For sure.

Yeah, yeah. Well, he went on to be a public official. Well, he was a... was previously. Was he before he had the show? I thought he was after he would. He was mayor again. No, no, no, no.

This is one of my heroes. He was the mayor of Cincinnati. They thought he was going to be the first Jewish president, in fact. He was beloved, and then he paid for a prostitute in Kentucky with a check, and then he got caught. And then he was so beloved that in a writing, a writing campaign, he was reelected. Okay. Because he was so awesome. What year was that?

That's my hero. What year was that? was that in the 70? I think people were like, that's the Jewish Kennedy. And then he became a newscaster. And then at the end of a news broadcast, he was like on NBC or CBS or something. And he'd do Jerry's final thought.

And then he started a very Phil Donahue-style boring talk show. And then the chairs started. And then they were like, we got to go nasty. And then they beat Oprah in the ratings. You know, the chairs were the best. That's a great doc to be done of like Jerry Springer. I think I'm reciting to you a documentary

than I thought. It is a very like Trumpy. It's like a preview. It's a foreshadowing of like, you know. I remember being when I get sick from school. Like I was hoping sick from school. Price is right. Price is right.

Springer. Yeah. Yeah. And I'd be like. So great when I had Plinko. I was always hoping for Plinko. Plinko. Yeah, yeah.

Bob was just like, sometimes you can see on his face. He'd be like, this idiot. How does he think of Jesse is $40,000? Should have gone with the $1. Yeah. But no, like Springer was like a treat when you were sick from school. You could see people fighting. Having affairs.

You want to be like a Jerry Springer. No, but I think it was an awesome show. What's your like prep process like? It depends. I mean, really it's there's like you do like research. Like you have a packet of research, but then you kind of have to take into account like what a normal person knows about the person. Yeah.

And then you build it back from there. Like I lean a con on. And like a normal person doesn't know what the fucking FTC is or something, you know. Or like who she is. But they do know that things are expensive and they know that companies kind of fucking them over a lot. And then they do know that people are getting fired to the government. So like if you build it from there, then you can be like, oh, this is like an example of a civil servant and like the benefits of like a robust civil service. So there's like a story.

And then this is a, yeah, this is someone that's trying to fucking stop things from being so expensive when they're trying to. to break the rules. And someone also that just like walked into a department where like it wasn't necessarily since the 80s like that robust and then she was like we have to start working now. Yeah.

We have to stop playing beer pong. And I asked her, I was like, were people like photocopying their butts? Where people like was in a Hawaiian shirt day every day? No, but but yeah, the crazy thing about her I mean is that I still think about it to this day,

but I don't think I've ever met a good person in my life. Like, I remember I asked her when the last time she lied was, and she was like, I think maybe like elementary school, but like she wasn't lying. She's like a rare. We're all liars. She's just like, what she cares about is what she does. That is her life.

And she's passionate about it. And she wants to do it right. And she's just like. But she doesn't even conceive of like, when I was like, you know, did you ever clap back? Because remember there was like an editorial. There was like an op-ed every day about that FTC chair. woman and everyone's like what the fuck does that even mean yeah right and uh i was like they hated you and i was like did you ever like clap back and she was like she looks at you she was like i don't know

you like what is that going to do she's like i have to win the lawsuit and it's not even like i'll see you on the field it's just more like my job is i have to do good at the lawsuit i know it's just like everyone is a liar but i mean i no we all think we're terrible people and then we're like if everyone around us finds out i'm done for right right Yeah. And I think she's the only person on Earth. You think she's the only one? That I've ever met this like.

It's shocking, in fact. You get some, like, legal types who end up being, like, government official. Like, that made me think of, like, Jerome Powell, right? Yeah. And every Fed share is like this. They're very, like, because they're careful about the markets and anything they say could, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Plunge us into recession.

And him coming out then and being like, oh, yeah, Donald Trump just tried to fuck me because he's like trying to investigate me was like so notable because I'm like that fucking guy is supposed to just get up and just read his numbers and just deflect questions but like the fact that he has to go out there

and be like yeah this is I'm getting straight like that's when you know we're in a pretty crazy fucking time yeah that's what I found out of Trump was being wacko before that it was like this guy's just cruising

yeah yeah I think it is she knows it like just like he knows, like, a sentence in a speech, like, Greenspan could, like, change the economy. Yeah. Like, right? Powell knows that. She also knows that.

She also knows like... She's like, I try to get her to talk shit. And she's like, no, that's against the rules to say that. Yeah. I was like, what do you know all the rules? The rules don't matter anymore. We all have shit coins from Qatar. Yeah.

It's not fair. Like, I watched the... I don't know if it's Nick Shirley, but one of those guys, the new Project Veritas kind of guys. Yeah. He went to... The first. The frog guy. After Minneapolis, one of these guys, he went to this ultra-Orthodox town in

Upstate New York called Kiriast Joel. And it's just all Khassids, right? And they're just doing welfare scams, right? And it was right after the Minneapolis video. And I missed this one. And I watched it. I was like, well, if it's, it's, it's, it's, I was like, good for them. Honestly. Why can't that? I mean, what? Qatar's buying a shit coin for his crappy family. Yeah. Right? Like, why can't these guys just. take over the school board. He's also pardoning all the people who did fraud. There's a lot more fraud.

Nikki is so trying to... It's a part, like her husband, right? Who? Nikki. Monash. Oh, now we're talking... Oh, I think I meant Nick Shirley. Now we're talking about Nikki Minaj.

Oh, Nick Minage. I'm just like, the pardon system is like you have to suck up and then you get to do whatever you want. Yes. Yeah, I was sick. Do you see Sam Begman-Fried last night? I can't stop looking at. He was tweeting that, like, he's becoming a republic. And, like, Donald Trump is actually great.

Good for him. Which was very funny because... Me too. Like, prosecutors when they were trying him were like, oh, here's a memo where he said that if he ever got caught, some advice he got was like, one cool thing would be to become a Republican because then, like, Donald Trump might pardon you. And now he's, like, doing it. Fine.

And he's probably going to get the party. What is he an idiot? He's not supposed to be a Republican? Good for it. I mean, like... Why wouldn't you do that? He's supposed to be in jail? He's probably going to work.

Also, his thing did work. Did you see that? No. Like, the bet he made. It did work, but it was once he was in jail. Poor guy. We love him. We love him.

Yeah, he'll be on soon. I feel like every comedian... Got that. I think it did. I don't really know anything, but I think it did. Look it up, nerds. Every comedian who has a show where politics is discussed inevitably gets asked, like, if there's some larger political goal, they're trying to

to achieve and the answer is almost like I'm just a comedian I'm just trying to entertain people make them laugh Is that your answer to? I try to be careful about it Yeah I don't want to speak from a position of authority That I don't qualify to have What are your thoughts on?

I could do the homework five minutes before Lena Khan comes in and be like This is what antitrust law is And I read it five minutes before Right But instead like I have my own opinions obviously When I had Richie Torres on Like I felt like I could speak to like

the situation in Israel. You know, like, because I've, like, you know, I studied Middle Eastern politics in college. I lived in Israel and I'm Jewish. I felt like comfortable enough to do it. But then when I see, like, comedians spouting off about fucking, like, public health statistics and, like, disease transmission, I'm like, I don't know that.

We talk about our penises on, say. I mean, like, there's nothing that qualifies us for that. And, like, but you can really say anything you want on the internet. So it's a matter of, like, I could say, anything, so I have to hold myself to a standard. I'm not going to go to jail if I'm like Adam Freeland is the smartest man. But like, is there any part of, like,

since you're interviewing a bunch of political people now, is there any part of you that's thinking, okay, you have political opinions, you have political values, you clearly think the environment right now is very fucked up as it is. When you have political people on, is there any part of you who's like, I want the audience

to walk away thinking you know, maybe changing their minds, maybe No, it makes it fun, right? Like, if I'm not going to, like, spout off about, like, some House Resolution 3722, you know, whatever, like, I can ask questions that they're not familiar with. Right. So I can just ask, like, a basic question about, like, I do feel comfortable saying, like, oh, yeah, well, no one likes a government. Like, why do you want to be in the government?

Right? In a generic sense, that's a larger question that they kind of don't grapple with very often, you know, especially Democrats because they're just, like, not used to, like, this kind of format. No. You know, no, they had a lot of time. And, uh,

the Richie Torres thing is interesting because I had heard about it because it was, you know, you made some, made some news. Um, but then watching it, like, and you're like this with a lot of guests,

even guests that you don't agree with or, you know, like, you're very nice and respectful to, to these guests. Like, I thought you worked to him too. Like,

the idea that he walked off and was like, that was unfair. And you were understanding. You were disagreeing with them, but you were almost, you were hurt, I think. The,

the, The story is, you have to find, like, what's interesting. The story there is that this person comes from extreme poverty and, like, represents the poorest district in Congress and is gay and, like, try to kill himself and then made it all the way to Congress. I mean, that's like a, should be on his face and inspirational story. And then you see, like, well, why the hell are you, like, you tweet about Israel, like, 80% of the time. Yeah. You know, and it's just like, how do you get there? Right.

Right. So that's, like, as a story, like, you tell. you tell his background, you tell where he comes from, and then you try to understand, instead of me being like, you shill, you know, like... Right, you're not trying to get them. You're trying to actually understand the thing that you don't understand about them. Well, yeah, I mean,

I really don't want to have an argument. You know, I want to have like a kind of a conversation that reflects something like culturally, oh, God, when I talk this way. Like, culturally relevant, I don't know. And the story there... The story there is, is like, why this guy

who comes from such meager beginnings and has accomplished so much and overcome so much, like, why he lands here. That's the interesting story. Do you feel like you got an answer on that from him? No. I think that his assumption was that I was trying to trap him or something.

Yeah. But in reality, it's just like, I'm a Jewish person. I'm trying to, I'm trying to express to him. I was like, you know, you're speaking for the experience of Jewish people, and I have a different experience. And then he was telling me that that was anti-Semitic of me.

And it was just like, but like beyond that, it's like I wasn't trying to put him in that position. I was really just trying to understand like, how does it work when someone like, sensibly he was very like idealistic and like driven and, you know, had a tough time in life and like went into politics and really went for it. How does it work where they like end up there? Because that's. Yeah.

That's a good story to investigate, right? And the internet is all fucking people yelling at each other. All the time. And it's like for zero dollars. Can you imagine these guys for zero, all of them? You're not even paying these guys. No. Right?

Yeah. No, not at all. No, people are, we pay per tweet here. People are yelling at like the fucking, uh, the secretary of, uh, fucking agriculture all day long for zero dollars. Just yelling at them. They're not seeing it. These days, some of them are seeing it. Yeah.

The internet, like, bums people out. I only yell at people online that I know they're going to see it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're in the game, baby. I'm in the, I'm in the, I'm making money. it's your job. Yeah, not from the posting.

Exactly, but not directly from the posting. It's not my job. I would be a ghost. I would, you know, like, I wouldn't be, it's insane to be, yeah, I don't know, on the internet with an avatar of you, just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I'm the press secretary for Adam. Like, just shut up. No, I mean, but like, I have to do it because I'm online.

But, like, independent of that, like, the attempt to make something that people, makes people feel all right. Yeah. I feel like noble, perhaps. I don't know. I hope it does. It is very anti. I mean, even though it's like a YouTube show,

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This is a show that we do here about the phones being bad, essentially. I know that you think the phones are also bad. Oh, yeah, it's made everyone insane. What do you, why, how do you think the phones made everyone insane? I mean, there's a lot of different theories, but it's, I think it's maybe the worst thing that we're dealing. It's, I think it's like, I don't know if it's the cause of everything, but it is one of the main causes of all the bullshit that we're dealing with. I'll respond to the question. Do you think that seeing two people getting shot in the head in the last week, we're, like, we're,

like desensitized because like every time you go on Twitter you just see someone getting shot in the head. It's like, oh, it's another getting shot in the head video. Yeah. You know that Adam Curtis documentary? Hyper-Normalization. No. So he like shows this montage of like movies where you see like buildings exploding and stuff like that. Yeah.

That preceded 9-11. And it, the kind of the concept was that kind of numbed us to the, to like, the terror. And like, yeah, it did look like Independence Day, 9-11, a little bit. You know?

Yeah. And, yeah, we just see people getting shot in the head. Like, I really think the Minnesota video is like, yes, there's been a response that's like, this is insane. But, like, perhaps it's even more insane than it's dawning on people because it's... It is... We see it all the time. My wife said this to me because she is... She said, I want to shoot you in the head.

She did. Yeah. Maybe. Because she was in politics, and then now she's not as much. So she tries not to be online as much. But after Minnesota, it was like scrolling and looking. And she's like, we're not meant to see like this video all the time. And then you don't just see the video and have everyone be like, that is such a tragedy, how awful.

You see the video over and over again. And then you see this fight online with people who are like, that didn't really happen. Or they deserved it. They had it coming. And you're just, that really gets you. The fight that comes after that is just, that's the insane part where it's just like, the guy didn't get hit by the car. He didn't get hit by the car? He didn't get hit by the car?

We also didn't get hit by the car. You feel crazy. Yeah, he's doing like a slip and fall and the ice guy has a neck brace now. And he's like, I was terrified. Like, we saw a lady get shot in the head three times. The gun was like right there. And then they're like, well, you know, she was mouthing off. I mean, like, they're lying to our faces, really.

But like the people are going along with it, that's the really crazy part. That's why I can't tell though if they're going along with it, like, if they in their heart of hearts believe this and have been. radicalized by all the bullshit they're seeing online, or if they're just like, I gotta be on the team and I gotta just, I gotta just say it anyway, even if I don't necessarily believe it.

It's like, I can't figure it out. I guess different for different people, I'm sure. I know some of that works in the music industry, right? And like they, the labels have like recognized that like Stan culture is like a thing. Fuck the music industry. But like,

but yeah, they basically what they do is now they artificially create their boss. And then human beings, see them and then they join. So they mimic like Stan like communities and then it becomes a real thing. Yes.

And you know what is the percentage of like accounts on Twitter that are bots at this point? I know Elon's been working really hard to cut them down but probably a lot. Who's doing the Holocaust and it happens stuff?

Who's doing it? Yeah. Is it Nick? Nick Fentis. Yeah. Oh I thought Mullen. I thought it. Oh. him, there's like a whole gang that he's got now. Sneaky, I don't know. There's all these.

No, but those are real guys. Clavicular. But I feel like there's just so many like, Anne Frank wrote that in ballpoint pen that couldn't have been. Yeah, there's a lot of that too. I feel like there's... But it's hard to tell now between the bots and the real people. Yeah, exactly.

My understanding is that it was just a ton and then it becomes that's scary to me. And then beyond that, I think that we were heading in this direction, obviously. And then we had to stay home for two years. And we went on the phones. I think everyone has PTSD. PTSD from pandemic era. And like we're, like, we have collective PTSD and like, no one wants to deal with it. No one wants to talk about it.

So we're all just like, we're going to go on and be fucking nuts the whole country. It's a conversation that it has to happen. Because like, A, whenever that topic comes up, it's either it's Fauci, the vaccine. That's the only part that's discussed. And like, yes, if I had to sit with my parents for two years, that would suck. Suck. It was so fun to see my friends at school. Yeah.

You know? And the only way we discuss kids in popular discourse is like they're genitals. Seriously, it's perverse. And we're like these kids just like they didn't get to see their friends for two years. I know. And now that I have kids who are, my kids are five and two, all the time. I'm like, if they had to be in this house with me and Emily for two years doing homeschool or like doing Zoom school, I would have fucking lost it. Yeah.

I would have like, I don't know what I would have done. Beyond that, beyond that, like, Of course the parents are all crazy. People died of COVID. I mean, like, I know far more people in this anecdotal that I know people that have committed suicide. I know people that have overdosed on drugs, people that have relapsed on drugs and alcohol. Like, while they were in lockdown, they were in recovery. And, like, that is not discussed.

I mean, like. I know. And, yeah, beyond that, people just went on their phones. And then now they're fucking, I don't know, like. What are your like social media habits and and I imagine they're like you're not on all the time? My reels algorithm is awesome. That's your thing. My Instagram Reels is just funny.

No TikTok, just Reels. I don't know how. I don't know TikTok. I pay a kid for that. But like, yeah. No, my reels are just funny. The internet used to be funny. It used to be really funny.

It used to be a place you go online and you'd laugh at the internet. And you'd laugh at the internet. You just laugh. You see a lady trying to stomp grapes and she fucking. and eats shit. Also then like something happens in the world. And then everyone gets on and they all make, they have jokes about the thing that just happened.

And they're inappropriate and it's fun and whatever. And now it's just like, yeah. Yeah. Like, what's your media diet? Like, how are you getting the news? I'm working and thank God. I just have too much work to do on the show. So you're getting news just based on like,

if you have a guest, you're like, okay, I got to be up on the news. I'm researching for the next guest. Yeah. Just like getting New York Times updates or going, scrolling the front of page of the Times app and then reading articles but like independent of that like I told you

my sister called me she was like the fucking east wing of the white I'm mad and I'm like what the what were you a fan I was like I didn't even know it could be a thing that you could be mad about and she's like I'm like it's Trump he's going to build some crap he's going to build some gold crap

that's what obviously he's going to like the ball room there's concentration camps in America right now There are concentration camps. People are mad that they can't have a waltz in the... I was thinking this yesterday because I'm like... I missed it.

So they're not going to have real investigations into the fact that the government, federal agents just murdered to American citizens. And they're just going to sweep these under their eyes. And I was like, okay, people spent three or four months being like, release the Epstein files, which is, of course, yeah, they should. And they're releasing them.

But I'm like, if people got upset about that, then we should definitely try to get upset about the fact that they're just covering up a couple murders now. Yeah. I mean, like, what? What is? It fucks me up, dude. We talked about it on the show when you were on it, but like, we recorded that December before the shit really hit the fan. Right before we planned the murders.

How have you been feeling since the Minneapolis stuff has gone down? Have you been processing it? I don't think the next question is being asked, which is like, how many fucking migrants have been fucking shot in the head also? Like, that's the question. And the detention centers are, like, I understand, I don't want to go like,

you know, white privals, I mean, I'm from Comptown. Right? Like, I'm from, I'm from a problematic

white guy podcast. But it's just like, do we, we have to ask the next question. I mean, because, like, I grew up in the Southwest,

and I grew up around a lot of Latinos, and like, they're just people that want to make more money for their family. families. Yeah. And I think about the ice guys. I think about like what it must be like to have a job where there's a kid screaming and crying and you're like arresting their parents. I know. What is that job like? Like, why? Like getting that job. And it's just like we abolish eyes.

They're going to reintegrate into society. We don't even know their faces. There's something about like, I don't know, it is growing up around a lot of Latinos in Las Vegas and I was born in L. and like, there's something about them where it's just like, they're not doing daycare scams. They are just working as hard as they can. And I know it's like, they say it was Biden's fault.

That's why we have to throw them in the cage. It's a kid crying. And like on a basic level, like, we talked about this when you're on the show. Like, does someone watch that? Are they like, this is great? Yeah. Does someone like, does...

There are, unfortunately, there's like maybe a third of... Do you think watching the image of the kids screaming and like the guy like just getting thrown, and the guy in the mask? I mean, it's scary, even just like the optics of it. This is what I don't understand. I think Jesse Waters is watching that. He's like, this is awesome.

There's one segment I think that thinks this is awesome. There's another that thinks, oh, this is just, it's what happens because of Biden let all those people in. So this is what has to happen. Biden's fault that this happened. It doesn't make any sense. Doesn't make any sense.

Then there's the people who just lied to themselves and tell them. I was really upset about that whole story. I mean, I'm upset about 20 stories a day, but the one about the five-year-old child, Liam in Minneapolis, who's like, you could sit in. And like, partly just because I heard every detail of the story, right? There's a million other stories like that, I'm sure. But he's like, he's five years old. Like, my kid's five years old.

He's in his class. His friends miss him. He's in Minneapolis. And they take him. They grab him. And now he's in a detention center in Texas. He's sick. And the argument that you get from all the fucking MAGA people,

and these aren't just like random. They're just like bots on Twitter. These are like the MAGA influencers. They're like, well, the father abandoned him in the snow. And the vice president made this argument. He's like, what were we supposed to do? That was the ICE agents just supposed to leave him to freeze in the snow? Of course they had to take him.

Yes, that's what people are saying. And they should have left him in the snow. And the mother didn't want him. I was like, oh, yeah, the mother didn't want him. the mother who couldn't come outside because she thought she was going to get kidnapped as well. So now you moved him to Texas for what? And they're like, well, the ICE agents are playing his favorite music, and he's going to be well cared for in this detention facility.

Like these are the things they say to justify it. And so they're like, you libs, you libs are freaking out because you think this poor five-year-old is like, we took him from his family. But actually, it's just a normal operation and the mom didn't want him and the dad didn't want him. So thank God for the ICE agents. Like, this is the story that they tell. Whether they like it or not. There are people that live around us that do crap that make things work in our society.

And we think of them as furniture. Yeah. And when you put it in that context of like, these are the people we're doing it to, right? These are people that have zero power in society. And it isn't mass deportation. It's this. Trump is getting pissed at a new city and then just at random like doing this. There's no like, you could just see.

I don't see like, he's not hitting ag, is he? No, no, no. I don't think, no. He said he wouldn't. You know, like, it's- They're not going to red states. They had a crazy operation in Maine that was doing the similar shit to Minneapolis. And then Susan Collins, because she's up for reelection and they need her to keep the Senate, like said something to Christy Nome. And then yesterday they're like, all right, Operation Over in Maine. It's like, oh, I thought it was a serious, I guess you could just end it whenever you want.

I guess it's not that important to do. It really just fucks with me. It does. It fucks with me too. Because it's like I, we watch these two people get shot, but like, the next question has to be like, how many fucking people have been shot before? We don't know. We don't. Or just shot sent away, sent to third countries. Disappeared. Tortured in a prison, abused in a prison, these detention centers. Many of them legal. Most of them, nonviolent. Most of them like. That's the other thing is they want, they're telling the story of like people running across the border illegally and just laying around. and like getting all this, you know, public benefits.

I don't just like most of the people now that they're grabbing are people who came here are waiting for an asylum hearing. Even if you said, okay, I want to deny your asylum claim, you could do it in a way where you're like, your claim is denied. Let's take your family and we're going to bring you here and like you have to leave. It's still terrible, whatever. But like, you certainly don't need to be grabbing a kid, grabbing a mother, separating them, throwing them into detention center, having them just like,

sit there and rot in these fucking terrible conditions for a year and then deny their asylum claim and then say I mean like it's just it's a law enforcement is supposed to keep us safe yeah right right right right right like how does this keep us safe it it does not it does not it doesn't keep us safe whatsoever it's just unflinching cruelty evil I mean it's just evil I know I know I know and it's and it only now seems to resonate I'm glad it does but like it didn't dawn on me like for a while. And then I spoke to one of the episodes we did, which is now, we did months ago,

shit. Fuck. It was a congressman was describing to me what the Florida detention facility is. The alligator. And yeah, it just didn't dawn on me. Like I understood an abstract and that was kind of the moment the penny dropped.

And I'm like, I said to you last time we talked, but like when you learn about how this shit's happened before. Yeah. Like, I'm Jewish. like, you know, they, it's not as if the entire country of Germany decided overnight to be anti-Semitic, right? Yeah. That's not how it works. Like, what it happens is, is they'd see people get taken.

They see their businesses close and they go to the office next day. You know, and like, and then if I look in the mirror and I'm like, yeah, I went to the fucking office the next day. You know, my life wasn't really disrupted. Right. Maybe if a fucking thing of blueberries is $9, you know. I mean, but like, I. yeah people just like went to the office the next day they had the dundies and like you know like

German whatever they were doing in Germany with Dwight Shrew too. They were always having the dundies yeah they had a guy named Dwight Shrew for sure yeah in the German but like they there's a lot of paper mills but it wasn't like they were sent to the east you know they were somebody can't figure out though it's like

you mentioned those ice agents and like how do they go home and you wonder how to have a country with people who have those jobs and do that. And like, is there humanity in those people that you are trying to reach and be like, hey, come back, come back to the light? You know, or because, like, what's your other option?

Just, like, jail them all, kick them out of the country, too. Like, I don't know how you get to a point where you're like... You have to ask a bigger question, I guess. Like, how does it happen? Right. And it's probably because of the phone. Has to be. Well, I thought that, too, is like some of these people who think, you know, that Renee

good or Alex Pretty deserved it or that it's great that we're putting them these attention centers. Like, if it was someone on your street, on your neighborhood, even if you know them well, who they either shot in the head or it was someone who was cleaning your house that you knew that you saw all the time and someone just grabbed them and took them away from their children. Like even if you're a right winger, you probably look at that, right? And be like, that's fucked up. Yeah. I hope.

Maybe not. Maybe you're like, that's great. I want to think that human beings, yes. I mean, I want to think that people are good. And that if they saw, if Jesse Waters saw it happening, he'd be like, fuck. Yeah. You know? But then I think about these guys that are actually doing it.

I know. And then I'm like, what that? It goes a step beyond. It's like, what compels a person? It's dark. I mean, I just have that image of just a family being like separated. Yeah. For a job?

Start a racist podcast. What are you doing? How cool are the Democrats? They're going to fix things, right? Who have you been impressed with it you've had on? John Favreau. Of course. That was my leading question.

Good much. Alec Baldwin. I think Chris Murphy was good. Yeah. I thought it was good. I thought Murphy was great. I think Mom Donnie did. I do think we can sniff bullshit on people.

Yeah. I think it's condescending that people are going to fall for crap. And I think that they can tell, like, I mean, some of the worst people I know from growing up, some dogs I grew up with who were like, this is a radical Islamic terror. You know, like, who are going hair on fire. Like, I'm done. And first of all, they didn't live in New York. That's what the news was telling them. The news was telling him that he was going to do the Sharia law.

Suddenly New York, it would be illegal to be Jewish. It is funny. In New York. I noticed a lot of, like, right-wing people now being like, I'm glad that Mamdani has moderated as mayor and as more. And I'm like, has he? Or did you just buy into a fucking caricature that the news told you about? And the Democratic Party and, and, like, and C&N.

But beyond that, those guys, like, I got texts from those guys afterwards. And they're like, while I still disagree with his politics, he seems pretty fucking chill. And I was like. For the sake of the city, it's like people needed to calm down. And that made me feel like good about like people responding that way. But the show's cool. And I really enjoy doing it. But like I'm very careful about like where I see myself interacting with this kind of stuff.

Yeah. In what way? I don't want to overset my bounds. I don't want to be irresponsible. And I don't want to start loving the smell of my own farts. You know? And it's very easy if you're like. like gaining an audience and people are celebrating you.

Yeah. You should have all the 2028 candidates, potential candidates on. We got one coming on next one. Because I feel like, who's that? Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That'll be fun. Welcome to your funeral again.

For me, that's a good test. If they can hang with you for an hour on your show. Well, now Democrats just say the F word. That's their thing. And Trump, fuck you. Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer's like tweeting tweeting fuck. Fuck to you.

Fuck to you, Donald. No, the depressing thing for me was like when he's like, he wants to reform like, when he said body cameras, I was like, do you realize there was 1,000 cameras around when we saw someone getting shot in the head? What is it one more camera gonna do?

Yeah. And we got the body cameras. We're fine now. We shut down the government and we got one, we got a, some of them don't work. And they do also have the controls to turn it on and off. They also have the ability to turn it off whatever they want.

We're going to figure out the manual. I haven't read it. That's what's going to happen. They're going to shut down the government and they're going to get body cameras. This is what they want to tell. This is my problem about it. It's so Democrat. But they've also become so afraid of people criticizing them for not being tough enough

or fighting hard enough or whatever that they are unwilling to just be honest about like the real limitations. Like here's the thing. They can shut down D.S. for like the rest of the year and it wouldn't do anything to ICE and ICE's operations because they have all this fucking money from the bill from last year so they can still do it which is like one thing you might want to say if you're going to shut down the government is like hey we'll do this and the body cams are like fucking great we got them but we're not going to celebrate over that but we could get we can get a few tiny things we're never going to defund ICE until there's a Democrat elected

president they say over over over again abolish us abolish us That's the only option. Right. They have to say, we have to end this program. But even now, there's like, you've got to say abolish ice. You've got to say abolish ice. I'm like, here's the thing. No one.

The first, the first opportunity you're ever going to get to abolish ice is January 2029. There's zero chance of it happening before that. Fine. Yeah. Yeah. Politically, that's how you distinct. You make yourself distinct.

Yeah. Ice is bad. We're going to get a go pro. Shut up, you idiot. Well, the other thing is like there's a lot of things. We're going to get a fuck pro. Fuck pro. We're investing in fuck pros for all of the...

They're going to do POV... Oh, no, sorry. We always talk about nasty stuff. We do. Are you really going to do Abby Phillips' argument show? Are you supposed to be on that? If they let me on... I saw you say...

If Scott was the end of it... You put a... The nail in the coffin. Can we do prep before that? Yeah, I don't know what the topics are. Is it good to kill everyone? Yeah. It's probably that.

It's like news of the day. They're just going to come right out, yeah. Oh, my God. I'm just going to, like, sit there and be like, this is ridiculous, guys. I'm gonna do John, you gotta, cut this. I'm gonna do the John Stewart. I actually, sweater, you gotta go sweater.

Yeah. I'm gonna go, cut all of this. I'm gonna go sweater, Stewart. Sweeter, Stewart. Yeah, millennial sweater, Stewart. Scott's gonna be peeing his pants like Paul Begala. Paul Begala, do you remember what he looked like? Scott drives me insane.

You were very, you were very respectful and nice to Scott. Well, I was just like, what? You did, the thing at the end about the, you're talking. The porn in libraries? The porn in the kids' libraries? That's all you have to do is just ask them what they're talking about. And he was like, no, there's some porn in the kids' libraries.

And you're like, what? Give me one example of porn. I was just like, what are you to? Well, yeah, I'm like, okay, it's bad if they do that. So what are you talking about? And they're like, look it up. You can look it up. Yeah. Their whole thing is that their girlfriend goes to Canada.

And if you ask, like, it's just like the Democrats take the bait every time. Because the Democrats have to be like, their normal response will be like, we celebrate the porn we celebrate the beautiful porn that we want our children to be able to like it and they're like fuck oh shit

we did it fuck Scott again oh I fell for it again the gorgeous the beautiful porn porn for all well it's just like they're like it's good

but the opposite is not it's good it's like that sounds not real I bring up this example a lot It's like the little mermaid is black. They're like, they're mad about it. And then instead of be like, for all the black little mermaids out there, this is a moment. Instead of just be like, hey, it's a baby movie and you sound like a fucking pussy right now. You're sounding like a pussy.

You're upset about a baby movie. You're in the government and you're sad. You're fucking pathetic. Oh, you ruined my childhood. Shut up. You're an adult. You sound like a pussy. You just have to actually be mean to them back.

Yeah. No, I agree. Instead of being like, and the, this is the Wakanda of Mermaids. It's just like, shut up. Who cares? It's a baby movie. I don't know. Like, it doesn't matter if the little mermaids black.

You're taking a knee in a kentee cloth. I can't stand this. Because of the little mermaics. Why do I know this? And Chuck is like, went through. Chuck is like the fucking black mermaids. We fucking...

We fucking... We're gonna get Gopros on this... They're gonna fuck this... Oh, God. Anyway. Anyway. Well, thanks for coming on. I feel like a lois black right now. Rantic.

Come back hot next to any time. Fun, dude. Let me know how Abby Phillips goes. I feel like we do... We do good job. We should take this on the road. Yeah, you fucking... Yeah.

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