Offline with Jon Favreau - Terminally Online: Larry David v. Bill Maher, TikTok Mystics, and the White House Correspondents' Dinner

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

This Terminally Online preview breaks down the liberal media’s response to the back-and-forth between Larry David and Bill Maher, right-wing transvestigations, and TikTok’s “broken bone theory.�...�� For the full episode and more Terminally Online, subscribe by April 30th to enjoy 30 days of Friends of the Pod for free! Support Crooked’s mission while unlocking ad-free episodes for Offline with Jon Favreau, exclusive content, a great Discord community, & more. Sign up now at crooked.com/friends  or through this feed on Apple Podcasts.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, it's John. We have a fun little special episode for you today. Love it, Tommy, Dan, Elijah and I got together in DC this weekend to record a special all in-person episode of Terminally Online, our exclusive subscription show. Wanted to give you guys a sneak peek. Terminally Online's just one of the many perks you get when you subscribe, including ad-free episodes of Offline,
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Starting point is 00:00:59 Welcome to terminally online the crooked subscription show. I'm Elijah Cohn. I'm Tommy V tour. I'm John love it. I'm Jon Favreau. I'm Dan Pfeiffer. Wow, the whole crew. We're all here together. Look at this. It's very tight. Look at this, it's like that photo at the baseball game. Of the bros, of the guys. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I know the photo.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I know the meme. Yes, the whites. Yeah. Yeah. So here we are, we're all jammed into a studio that can only accommodate four people, but we're cozy. Dan and I are sharing a mic. How's that going for us, Dan? Ask me in Twitter. I'm going to be the host. I'm going to be the host. So here we are, we're all jammed into a studio that can only accommodate four people, but
Starting point is 00:01:25 we're cozy. Dan and I are sharing a mic. How's that going for us, Dan? Ask me in 25 minutes. It's fair. I will. So we're all here in DC. So far, so good.
Starting point is 00:01:36 The first time the five of us have all been together since Trump was inaugurated. That's weird, but it's good to see you guys. Is this the first time we've all been together? Yeah, that I've been with you guys. First time I've seen y'all since Trump's been inaugurated, that's weird. But it's good to see you guys. Is this the first time we've all been together? Yeah, that I've been with you guys, first time I've seen y'all since Trump's been inaugurated. And first time in DC since Trump's been inaugurated. Yeah, yeah, a lot of firsts.
Starting point is 00:01:53 All right, should we do a Termly Online? Yeah, let's do it. All right, five people, so, you know, got a lot of Termly Onlines to get through here. John Favreau. Oh, I'm first? Yes, when were you two online this week? I have decided to focus on the Larry David,
Starting point is 00:02:07 Hitler, Bill Maher discourse. Great discourse. Great discourse. And I did not realize there was a whole discourse attached to it. I came to it because I read Larry David, wrote an op-ed about, it's a satirical op-ed in the New York Times about meeting Hitler and how it went really well.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And it was to make fun of Bill Maher having dinner with Donald Trump. satirical op-ed in the New York Times about meeting Hitler and how it went really well. And it was to make fun of Bill Maher having dinner with Donald Trump. And then Bill Maher did a monologue on his show, quote unquote, reporting what the dinner was like. And the thrust of Bill Maher's monologue was, you know, he plays a crazy guy on TV, but he didn't seem crazy in the White House.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And he was pretty nice to me. And, you know, I'm not saying that his policies aren't awful, but to me, in that moment, he was pretty nice, which is why Larry David writes the op-ed. And I kind of thought that it would just end there, but that sparked an entire discourse of why Larry David's op-ed was bad for the left, bad for Democrats, Hitler comparison is horrible,
Starting point is 00:03:13 and everyone has been fighting about it ever since. And so first we had this clip from Scott Jennings on CNN. Oh, God. And I loved his monologue. Even though I disagree with most everything he believes politically, he was right to do this and he was right to speak out about it. But this isn't about that dinner.
Starting point is 00:03:32 It's about the next one, because this is the modern left. It's an attempt always to intimidate people into not ever doing it again. It's to silence yourselves or we'll do it for you. That's the purpose of this op-ed, so that the next comedian or the next person on the American left chooses not to speak to Donald Trump. This is all an effort to get people
Starting point is 00:03:53 not to do what you just said, which is to talk to each other and our political leaders. I think it's a little weird for people who actually, for the administration that just went after Harvard for what it said and is going after law firms and going after the media to all of a sudden make the case that what we really want is a lot of free speech in America.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Good for Neera, that was Neera Tanden. But that was Neera, great, that was good. Dan just spoke to for Pod Save America. So yeah, so Larry David's satirical op-ed was an attempt to silence, silence people and scare them from ever, I guess, talking to Trump and writing off heads. In The Handmaid's Tale, there's this paragraph
Starting point is 00:04:32 I always think about, which is about how people think you need to know, get to really know the real person behind the policies, and that's what it means to really understand someone. But in the book, that's actually a weakness, right? That actually it's a weakness to kind of say, oh, but behind the scenes, he's so nice to dogs and so sweet to his wife and has a little pet name
Starting point is 00:04:55 and treats people so well. That's actually a frailty, that's a flaw. It's our inability. It's like we're so instinctively kind of social. Right. That actually, as if the fact that he's chummy behind the scenes matters even one little bit. It's worse. It's worse. It's like you're secretly nice.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Why can't you be publicly nice, you fucking asshole? It's just, it's like if it was just Bill, like I don't really care that Bill Maher had dead or with Donald Trump. I don't either. I don't even really care, like his monologue about, like I think it's kind of silly to the point that Levitt's making that like then he was like, oh, well, he was nice to me, like I think that's silly, it doesn't outrage me or anything. But then conservatives have been like so fucking angry
Starting point is 00:05:33 about this to think that it's happening. So this, this on CNN the next night was Batya Ungar Sargon, who's at the free press. So hers is even worse. Let's listen. At the free press so hers is even worse. Let's listen And I just have a pro tip for any Democrats who are thinking about winning back the working class Those people who make under a hundred thousand dollars a year who a majority from voted for Trump You should have a visceral disgust for someone like Larry David who's worth four hundred million dollars for someone like Larry David, who's worth $400 million, sitting there and smearing the hardest working Americans
Starting point is 00:06:15 for refusing to co-sign their own disinheritance. That's effectively what they are doing when these millionaires come out here and call Trump Hitler. They are calling working class Americans Nazis because they chose the person they thought would give their children back the future they were promised by this country. And it just has to stop. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Honestly, I don't care if the Democrats get this or don't, but they should get this because this is a big part of why they have lost because they have these rich people. He's so wealthy. Can you believe that? I mean, how did they all get here? Donald Trump is a billionaire. Pardon the Camp Auschwitz guy. He had Nick Fuentes and Kanye West
Starting point is 00:06:53 over for Thanksgiving dinner. He's not exactly Nazi avert. He's also the father and grandfather of Jewish children. Come on, Trump is the son of a Jewish people. I'm Sicilian who grew up with Jewish people. He's fantastic. Okay, come on. We can stop everything.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I can't talk anymore. Uncle, uncle. It's also like. Thank you. Oh my God. That is unbelievable. Can you believe that? It's the, it's.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Go read Larry David's op-ed. Like the idea that he's insulting Americans or even calling Trump or anything. He's making an analogy. It's an analogy. He's using a- With satire and comedy? I guess technically it's a metaphor.
Starting point is 00:07:31 This is the correspondence to Enrique and so we wanted to do some jokes. Jokes aren't allowed anymore as we know fascism. He's making, he's taking an idea to its logical conclusion. This is called taking something to its logical conclusion. He's not saying Trump is Hitler. He's saying this is the argument that Bill Maher is making. If you take it to its logical conclusion,
Starting point is 00:07:51 becomes ridiculous. Let alone calling the people who voted for Trump Nazis. Let alone being some working class thing. What are you talking about? It's so embarrassing. I don't know if these people believe it or just think this is what they're supposed to say. This is a debate for fucking no one.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And then online there's this whole discourse where they're like Larry David has not spoken since October 7th about getting the hostages back and Jerry Seinfeld has. And so there's all of these tweets that are like. What's Kramer said? It was like be a Jerry. Well 20 years ago the N word and then nothing else. Be a Jerry not a Larry.
Starting point is 00:08:27 It's like now a meme that's going around on right-wing Twitter. First of all, John, what are we gonna do with you? We gotta get you some help. Oh, I needed to be terminally online. You are terminally online. And I was nervous that just that clip was not gonna be enough, so I went deep on the Be a Jerry.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I was so close to giving you a low score. I know, that's why I had to. A discourse based on a New York Times op-ed in two CNN clips is not online. That's right. Unless it's 2003. Right. Is that on the Larry King show?
Starting point is 00:08:57 Is that a shot at George Will? Leave him alone, Dan. I just wanna point out that Biatia Ungar's Sargon is a moron. She most recently went on TV and complained about Barack Obama signing the tarp bank bailout, which those who have a basic
Starting point is 00:09:15 Understanding of history would know happened under the Bush administration. So you can ignore her or even Google handy Yeah, you know that that when that when that tarp deal when that that bill failed, that's the first dip I ever bought Yes, I really did You know, that, when that TARP deal, when that bill failed, that's the first dip I ever bought. Oh my God. Congrats. I really did. Good for you, man. I really bought that dip. I was at government work, it was a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:09:30 but I bought that dip. Nice. I love that all your dip buying stories are like, everyone else is feeling immense pain. Like, it's not like a savvy, like, oh, I saw some, a signal to the noise. That's what Warren Buffett said. You wait until there is blood in the streets.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Do you even dip, dude? Yeah, God, it's a joke. It was a joke, come on. It is a joke. I do think that the serious part of it is, Larry David isn't silencing anybody. He's just being critical of someone. He's using his speech.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Bill Maher's using his speech. What are you fucking talking about? Yeah, shut up. Free speech is everybody complaining about each other all the time. That's the deal. Oh, Bill Maher was using his speech. What are you fucking talking about? Free speech is everybody complaining about each other all the time. That's the deal. Bill Maher was asked about this. Bill Maher said.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I saw this. He was like, you know, Larry can do what he wants, free speech, fine, like I don't, not my favorite moment in our friendship. He's like, but then he goes, I do think it's like somewhat disrespectful to six million dead Jews. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Well, he did the move, cause this is what I saw too. He did the move of, once you've compared someone to Hitler, you've lost the argument, which used to be true, which used to be true. But the more Trump acts like a fascist,
Starting point is 00:10:33 the less that argument fucking holds. And that's the reality. Also, it's just a funny bit. It was so good. It was so good. Larry David, still the best. All right, John is a four.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I think he got all the pieces of the past discourse. These two truly terminally online. I'm giving him a three. Yeah, I think with this group it's a three. I think it's a three. I think it's a three. Dan? Moving the mic over to David.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Three, I'm okay with three. Okay, I love this, moving the mic over. This is good. Yeah. Okay. He's got nothing. He's got nothing. That's your opinion. John Lovett, what were you doing online this week?
Starting point is 00:11:12 Okay, I'm just gonna show you this video. This is how I became introduced to a topic. I just finished wiping tears from my eyes because I just learned about the never broke a bone theory. I've never broken a bone in my life. I'm 32 years old. My brother has broken bones. My sister has broken bones.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I know so many people that have broken bones to the point where when I was younger, it was cool to have a cast. And I was always like, why haven't I ever broken a bone? There are certain things that happen absolutely for a reason. I will die on that hill. So that was my introduction to this topic. Elijah, have you ever broken a bone?
Starting point is 00:11:48 No, I have not ever broken a bone. Dan, have you ever broken a bone? I have broken a bone. John, have you ever broken a bone? Yeah, was it just shoulder? The shoulder? Yeah. Tommy, have you ever broken a bone? Broke my arm, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I've never broken a bone. I had no idea what this was, the never broke a bone theory. It was baffling, it's a baffling video. I just wiped tears away from my eyes. This woman was crying because of the never broke a bone theory that she was baffling. It's a baffling video. I just wiped tears away from my eyes. This woman was crying because of the never broke a bone theory that she just learned about. What is the theory?
Starting point is 00:12:09 I would like you each to guess. What do you think the never broke a bone theory is? God protects you. Dan? You have special powers like Samuel L. Jackson in that movie, Indestructible? You're chosen somehow. Yeah, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:12:23 The never broke a bone theory is that people who have never broke a bone theory is that people who have never broken a bone are in some way chosen or protected by a guardian angel. Or just chosen. Or just chosen. Well, I think some Jews have broken bones, I think. If you look back at history.
Starting point is 00:12:38 It is, it is. Thank you Larry David. I like couldn't believe that this was real. That this is so real to people that they're crying. People are believing that they have a guardian angel because they've never broken a bone. Oh my gosh. And then I thought, what were you gonna say Elijah? I mean, if someone's fucked up shit
Starting point is 00:13:00 has happened to me in my life, fuck that. I mean, I've never broken a bone, but come on. Well, but you know who else has never broken a bone? That, that- Donald Trump. Claimed bone spurs, but that wasn't real. And he was protected at Butler. And it's just a, I went down the rabbit hole
Starting point is 00:13:21 of watching video after video of these kind of new mystics kind of as we, because we decided to stop going to fucking church and then everybody discovered astrology and different theories like this and all these people talking about- And people prayed the algorithm. Yeah, they never broke a bone theory. And I found it chilling to the core
Starting point is 00:13:39 because this woman just heard about it for the first time and it brought her to tears. I have a lot of questions. Yeah. But there's just like one simple thing that could happen here, which is that people who believe this theory could jump out of a two story window.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Sure. Oh my God. Don't give them ideas, dude. Just like something that won't kill you but would probably break an ankle. Well, that's a good way to test it. Yeah, good idea. That's a smart idea.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Let's get that out there. Let's clip that. And that's it. That's my term of the online. That's out there. Let's clip that. And that's it. That's my tourmaline online. That's pretty deep. Do you find that on TikTok? I did, I did. For the bone breakers,
Starting point is 00:14:12 was that the worst injury you've ever gotten? Yes. No. Dislocated shoulder. Yikes, Dan? No, I tore my knee ligaments. That was worse than breaking my arm in first grade. I will say that I thought, cause I remember Tommy had dislocated shoulder.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I had never done that. When I first fell, I thought it was a dislocation. It was middle of the pandemic, went to Cedars and they tried to pull it out. It was a dislocated shoulder and that didn't work. But they were like, you should go to an orthopedic surgeon just to see. And then I got the x-rays and they're like,
Starting point is 00:14:44 oh yeah, that shattered. You need surgery to affect that. Do you think, what do you think you did to lose God's protection? Yeah, it's a good question, I guess. Because you went a long time in life. I did go a long time, yeah. I will say I've never broken a bone.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I've never broken a bone, but I've had non-broken bone injuries that were fucking horrible. Yeah, for sure. Ty, did you break your arm in the White House? I dislocated my shoulder. I've done it four times, five times, something like that. Yeah. That was when you wore the sling.
Starting point is 00:15:10 That was when you wore the sling. Get to T. Is that when you wore the sling? Get to T by Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton just hurt her arm too? Yeah, she pushed me. Oh, no, that was what you were getting at. That was because, who was the joke about who oiled the,
Starting point is 00:15:21 oh, Richard Holbrook had oiled the fucking steps. He wanted to be Secretary of State and he died a lot of people losing protection Just a job I'd say he didn't actually oil the steps of Hillary Clinton would fall and break her arm Yeah, no, I got like a pretty serious concussion when I was six years old and that's why why I am, you know. Yeah, that's why you talk this way. The pauses, the dodgy eye contact. That's why, because of that. Repeating yourself,
Starting point is 00:15:52 getting our names wrong all the time. Yeah, coming up with clap backs, like 15 minutes after they happen, right before we walk into the studio. It's all good. All right, this is, I don't know, what was the engagement on this video? Let's check it out.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I need some data, because this is a like, you know. It's a data driven show. It had 43,000 hearts. That was, it was, I don't know how many views, let's see. It had 3.1 million views. Ooh, but none of us have seen it before. That's true.
Starting point is 00:16:24 It did bring something new. I could give it a three. Yeah. Let's give it a three. Yeah, because he's at the doctor's office for broken arms, you know? Yeah. Okay, great. He hasn't quite lost protection yet.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah. All right, well, game on to see who loses protection first, John. I hope not. Yeah, I mean. That's how I'd like to. You should wear protection. Yeah, I'll precast.
Starting point is 00:16:46 All right, Tommy, why don't we get you online this week. Okay, so my topic today builds off a conversation I had with Tim Miller earlier this week about a Fox News interview that we were watching live in our office with Will Cain. He's a Fox News personality and Congressman Maxwell Frost, who was on the ground in El Salvador trying to visit Kilmer O a girl Garcia long story short
Starting point is 00:17:06 Will Cain did not know that Trump had said he wants to deport homegrown Criminals from the US in other words send Americans to foreign gulags And so to me this is a story about you know, the dangers of dumb people on TV for sure, but also information silos and Because it seemed like will cana truly just never heard Trump say these things about sending homegrown Criminals to El Salvador because it is inconvenient for Fox News to put that on its air It did air live on Fox News. They're live everywhere It was and he said it multiple times, but so that was just Fox News and it didn't really scratch the surface of the craziest
Starting point is 00:17:41 Stuff out there. So today I want to dive into the oeuvre of Candace Owens. For listeners who don't know Candace, she was at the Daily Wire for a long time before leaving amidst allegations of antisemitism. For example, she liked to post that asked a well-known rabbi if he was quote, drunk on Christian blood again. So some subtle stuff right on the line. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Oh my God. Can't have too much of that. No, too much Christian blood will get you there. So, but Candice, she is not a fringe person. She has 2.1 million views or downloads per episode of her podcast. So a lot of people are consuming this. So we have something to learn from her.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah. So here's some recent topics. Candice, what's your secret? When are we gonna transvestigate the First Lady of France? Don't jump ahead on my topic. So here's some reason topics she's discussed. She is convinced that the opening ceremony of the Olympics in France was a satanic mockery of the Last Supper. You remember this controversy?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Oh my gosh. But this is a quote from the episode. This world is being run by a very small group of elite oligarchs who routinely practice homosexuality and pedophilia and who believe in Baphomet as a deity who worship a transgender deity. Baphomet, I guess, is an occult deity. What? So this is part of her commentary on that.
Starting point is 00:18:55 She didn't get the memo from Alyssa Slotkin. She looked into the quote, shocking satanic origins of NASA, which is about how some of the founders of NASA had occultist views. It seems like there's actually some truth to this one. Origins of NASA, which is about how some of the founders of NASA had occultist views. Seems like there's actually some truth to this one. The founders of NASA? Yeah, I didn't have time to fully dig into it
Starting point is 00:19:10 because when you're just asking questions, you don't have time to find the answers. Right, right, right. But she also believes that the moon landing is faked based on her gut instinct. She said the gut is divine, so that's why you have to follow your gut instinct. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:19:23 She's done a lot of coverage of what really happened on 9-11. She did an episode. What did really happen? You have to watch to find out. She did an episode in July of 2024 about whether Joe Biden was actually currently dead. So again, she's not always wrong. That was fair.
Starting point is 00:19:40 But there was one right-wing post I saw today that really made me laugh because it showed the Pope in his coffin and said behind the scenes Pope as sharp as ever Hey you got it Source on that story was Alex Jones by the way um she did an episode questioning whether the atrocities committed by a truly evil Nazi doctor named Joseph Mengele actually happened. She called it bizarre propaganda and questioned whether he would do all these evil experiments
Starting point is 00:20:08 because it seems unnecessary and wasteful for those who don't know. He was a SS doctor at Auschwitz and known for doing the worst things you could ever imagine. And she's recently done a series of interviews with Harvey Weinstein, questioned his guilt, questioned whether the trials were fair. And I think it's planning a series to exonerate him.
Starting point is 00:20:25 She interviewed him directly? From prison. Wow. I didn't realize that. A bunch of times. So, but as Elijah alluded to, Candice's true passion is her belief that Brigitte Macron, the French president,
Starting point is 00:20:37 Mano Macron's wife, is actually a man. She has covered this podcast topic on her podcast. There's a video series. There's like a bunch of social media stuff. There might be a movie. The big one though is this multi-part series called Becoming Brigitte. The sixth episode has 1.9 million views.
Starting point is 00:20:55 What is going on? 1.9 million views. You know what? Leaving a great name on the table, which would have been Croc Vadam. You're a great question mark. For the record, French media, the courts, the Macron family, they've all said this is crazy, there's lawsuits.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Imagine you're just sitting in the Elysee Palace and one day this lunatic over in America starts questioning your gender identity. But the problem is, this is spread like crazy Here are Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson talking about Candace's journalism Gonna take a while for the nerds to really go through it She's too busy with the McCrone thing I watched two hours of that today me too. Have you seen her McCrone's a man? Yeah, Bridget McCrone's a man. She got you. Yeah, she got me. Candace got me. She got me hook, line, sinker. I was
Starting point is 00:21:50 eating breakfast today. Yeah, I do. I was eating elk steaks, f***ing Candace Owens on my f***ing YouTube. I love her. Elk steaks? Did you see? This is crazy. Have you dived into her heart? I will wager my professional credibility McCrone's wife is actually a man and I was like I was like, ah Candace Owens I love you, but I think this is too too crazy. Yeah, and then it turns out she's right So, you just explained, my mind is blown. What are we gonna do? How do we share country with these people? Dude, yeah, the issue used to be like,
Starting point is 00:22:31 the cliche is like Walter Cronkite used to do the news and at least we could agree on the same set of facts. And now it's like Vietnam didn't happen and Cronkite's a lady. Got lady parts. Holy shit. But wait, final thing though, you will never guess who is really to blame for all of this.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Roll the clip. That's a logic I can guess. I gotta say this right at the top. It is shocking to me how when I'm not even trying to look into Israel, they pop up in everything I investigate as people that are blackmailing someone. Case in point, the Brigitte Macron story, nothing to do with Israel.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Out of nowhere, for those of you that follow that story, we suddenly get to this chapter and we learn that Emmanuel Macron was being blackmailed by Israel because they wanted him to form closer relationships to, I think it was Morocco over Algeria. Just every time I'm looking at it, I'm like, oh, there's another story about Israel and blackmail, completely foolish if you don't believe that Israel blackmails people, okay?
Starting point is 00:23:28 You are out of your mind, but don't take it from me. As I said, we're only using Jewish sources today. All roads lead back to the Jews. 2.1 million views or downloads an episode. That is my term of the online. I think Tommy's gotten a five. Is there a six? That was exquisite.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And also a real misdirect with the starting with the Will Cain story. I was somewhere in Candice Owens land. She's the goat. There was a point about information bubbles. No, I understand that. I'm a fucking idiot. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Hey, come on, he's just, hey, he does his best. I had a good caution when I was shaking. Think about what he's done been through. Fucking idiot We'll never know what he would have been like this is actually something that bothers me Shit CT Elijah. They are Aaron Hernandez. Yeah, you wait. Wow. Yeah, when is she having us on, John? Yeah, two Jewish horses right here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So do we think that Joe Rogan really believes the McCrown thing? Yeah. I mean, he's a conspiracy. He loves a conspiracy. Until someone, the next person comes along and says, like, actually, here's some evidence in the other direction. Right, right. I will never forget that.
Starting point is 00:24:49 There was an interview, like, with NPR, about the guy who made Loose Change, which is the first famous 9-11 conspiracy theory documentary. And the original ones were VHS tapes that you would mail out. And one of the first, like, 50 or 100 purchasers of the tape was Joe Rogan. So he's like OG conspiracy theory. Where does he find the tape?
Starting point is 00:25:05 He's like, he's podcasting three hours a day. Cooking elk steak. He's cooking elk steak, he's watching two hours of, what is going on with him? I'd like a day in the life of Joe Rogan. I think it's elk steaks. I'd watch that. Elk steaks working out, reading the news, and then podding. It's pretty good life, actually.
Starting point is 00:25:22 News loosely defined. The Bridget McCronson. So your life without an elk steak? life, actually. News loosely defined. The Bridget McCrone stuff. So your life without an elk steak? Yeah, basically. Yeah, I get a smoothie at Barry's, he's an elk steak. We're living pretty similar lives, actually. I'm a, I'm a, I'm dabbling the gay LA version. Bridget McCrone, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah, I mean, maybe my take is wrong about this, but like, they act like if that was true, then oh my God, what a big scandal. And then if someone were to tell me like, hey, Bridget McCrone actually trans, I think I would just be like, yeah, fine. Right, like why do the cards all come down? Why is that a piece of Jenga of some broader conspiracy?
Starting point is 00:25:58 There's in Woodworking, the book by Emily St. James for Crooked Media Reads, she talks about this in the book that if you look at anyone, anyone, you can find some aspect of them that makes them seem like they might be trans, that like everybody is passing, that if you stare at anyone long enough, you can find some way in which like,
Starting point is 00:26:22 oh, that woman looks like maybe there's an Adam's apple, or what broad shoulders, or that guy has like kind of feminine hips or whatever. But you can look at anyone and convince yourself you're looking at a trans person. And really none of us are looking that closely all the time. Yeah, damn. Candice is. Yeah, Candice for sure is.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I need her on that wall. All right, so Tommy's a five? Yeah. Yeah, he's dead Very well rabbit hole. That was a nice escalation You just heard a preview of terminally online our subscription only show that's arguably the most unhinged show at crooked Not even arguably anymore. It is it's just unhinged If you want to hear the rest subscribe to friends of the pod at cricket comm slash friends or through Apple podcasts And don't forget you have until the end of April to grab a 30-day free trial.
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