Oh What A Time... - #130 Alexander the Great (Part 1)
Episode Date: August 10, 2025It’s time to set the stage for one of history’s biggest names. We meet Alexander’s parents: Olympias (possibly sleeping with gods) and Philip II (definitely sleeping with everyone else)....Plus, is everything in Alexander the Great’s life explained by the fact he effectively lived in a branch of David Lloyd? If you’ve got more on this, please email: hello@ohwhatatime.comIf you fancy a bunch of OWAT content you’ve never heard before (and the entirety of the mini-series right now!), why not treat yourself and become an Oh What A Time: FULL TIMER?Up for grabs is:- two bonus episodes every month!- ad-free listening- episodes a week ahead of everyone else- And much moreSubscriptions are available via AnotherSlice and Wondery +. For all the links head to: ohwhatatime.comYou can also follow us on: X (formerly Twitter) at @ohwhatatimepodAnd Instagram at @ohwhatatimepodAaannnd if you like it, why not drop us a review in your podcast app of choice?Thank you to Dan Evans for the artwork (idrawforfood.co.uk).Chris, Elis and Tom xSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hello, and welcome to.
Oh, what a time and welcome to, on a history podcast, quite a historic occasion.
This is our first ever 10-part mini-series on one subject, and that subject is Alexander.
Anton Depp.
It's Big John Bosch.
His, the history of the Bosch, no, on Alexander the Great.
Do you want to quote here from a leading historian Paul Cartledge, the A.G. Leventis professor of Greek
culture at Cambridge University about Alexander the Great, which captures why this man is of such
importance. In a reign of 13 years, Alexander the Great shot across the Greek and Middle East
infirmament like a meteor, transforming whatever he, often brutally touched, and ensuring the ancient
world, and so eventually our world could never be the same again. Now, this is a great quote
coming. Until the internet age, Alexander the Great was probably the most famous human being
who ever lived. There you. Wow. So this is a man,
Big call?
It is, it is a big call.
Who would you go with then?
Pele?
Well, pre-internet.
So what, before 1994?
Yes, before 1994.
The most famous man who ever lived?
He's more famous than Noel Edmonds.
The first name, that's.
Yes.
Although I think Edmonds and Alexander the Great would have a lot in common.
I'd like to chuck Jesus into the mix.
Oh, yeah.
As impossible consent.
Aller.
Yeah.
I didn't mean to be scuttling the appearance.
opinion of Paul Cartliss so early in our podcast, by the way.
I can give you more of this quote.
He says his astounding career of conquest inspired, not just Caesar and Augustus,
but also Mark Anthony, Napoleon, Hitler and other would-be world conquerors from the West.
Basically, 13 years.
13 years.
So two years more than Thatcher.
And look what he achieved.
Three years more than Blair.
That's incredible.
Half of Alex Ferguson's reign at Man United.
What I find most amazing is he done all this by the age of 30 as well.
Well, what had you done by the time?
Had you conquered Persia by the time you were 30?
Where were you?
What was your...
What did I do?
Oh, the age of 30.
Oh, my God.
I owned a car.
That really is it.
And the car I bought off my dad.
Oh, my God.
That is pathetic.
Whenever someone says Alexander the Great conquered the known world by the age of 30,
I always think of that Sid Wardale quote.
Eric Bristow.
Yeah, me too.
I was actually googling it.
Alexander the Great had conquered the known world by the age of 30.
Eric Bristow is only 28.
He actually said, when Alexander of Macedonia was 33,
he cried salt tears because they were no more worlds to conquer.
Eric Bristow's only 27.
There we go.
What I loved was Sid Waddell.
Sid Waddell had a very working class background from the northeastern England.
I don't know what this is referring to, by the way.
You should explain.
Darts. The famous Darts commentator, Sidwardell. And also our overseas listeners, you may not know about this.
There was a very famous Darts commentator who was the voice of Darts in the UK. He was the British voice of Darts, a man called Sid Waddell. And he was very interesting because he loved Darts and he took dance incredibly seriously, as all commentators should. You can't, you know.
But he, even though he had a very working class background and had grown up around Darts in working men's clubs in the northeast of England, he, I think, had studied history at Cambridge.
he would often give these historical parallels to great moments in dance.
And that is the most famous one,
where he compares Eric Bristow's early success.
Great.
When Alexander Macedonia was 33,
he cried salt tears because they were no more worlds left to conquer.
Eric Bristow's only 27.
You know, until the internet age,
Eric Bristow was the second most famous man ever to have lived.
The point we're trying to make, though, is that Alexander the Great is a man who deserve more than one podcast episode.
He's a man whose life is just staggering.
It is genuinely staggering what this person achieved, both horrific and incredible.
And we're going to cover that.
And he's the perfect warm-up to our eight-part series on Eric Bristow as well.
Oh, yes.
It would have been very, very unsatisfying to do Alexander the Great, even in one episode.
Yes.
Yeah.
You know, all three parts around him, it's not enough because the guy is a big deal.
Now, I studied modern history at university.
I know very little about Alexander the Great, so we've been furnished by our great historian researcher, Dr. Daryl Leworthy.
I knew that he was from Macedon or ancient Macedonia.
I've been to North Macedonia, and until I googled it this morning, I thought they were the same place, and they're not.
So basically, that is the point at which I am coming at this topic from.
I'm now imagining you, I'm assuming this is Wales away.
It was, it was a World Cup qualifying.
Yeah. And you are turning to your fellow fans
and saying things like, look at us coming,
following the footsteps of the great Alexander the Great,
thinking you're being really bright and intelligent
and actually getting it completely wrong.
Because I occasionally write pieces about Welsh football for The Guardian,
I'm absolutely delighted that I didn't write one about that
because I think I probably would have chucked it in there
to try and look clever, and then the comments would have been an absolute car crash.
So I'm looking forward to this
I have made a point
of only learning about the sections
of his life that I am covering
so the stuff you'll be telling me
will be a genuine surprise to me
so I'm very excited to find out
about the stuff around
that I now know about
before we get into the great man himself
should we do a little bit of correspondence
to kick things off as always
It's not just about us
It's also about your fantastic emails
The email I've picked out
from the mega sack today
is
I don't feel like that's going to catch up.
Trademark, mega sack
is from Patrick Murphy.
He says, Tom, Ellis, Chris and Oxford Daryl.
Greetings from the Colonies.
During episode 113 unlikely sports stars,
Tom, when discussing Pope John Paul II
playing football, said,
they are always really elderly, aren't they?
My understanding is they're always getting on a bit.
not true Tom you are the victim of a recency bias there you go
this is the sort of the intelligence of the listeners we're getting
we're getting comments like you are a victim of recency bias
that's the sort of people we're dealing with here
half remembered historical facts throughout history
there have been several young popes but the leader in the clubhouse
after two millennia is pope benedict the ix
which makes it the fourth is that the ninth there we go
that's good thank goodness this isn't a history pod
depending on sources
Niner as I'm sure
his friends called him in private
could have been as young as
I'd like to guess how young this Pope was
Oh it's going to be something ridiculous
Like 13, is it?
Okay, we've got 13 from 11
Or if you'd combine your answer
You'd been correct he was 12
When he took office
Yes I said that from the first time
He was even the most sensible
12 year old
It's not ready to be
God's representative on earth.
That's a great shame, isn't it?
Because I don't think any 12-year-old,
even if you had the wisest person
who ever lived and he was 12,
you're just not getting that shout.
You're not getting called up.
I think you're a movie called
the prepubescent Pope.
That's what it's called.
It's got a nice,
nice alliteration in there.
It would be massive
in Spain, Italy, Ireland,
or the Catholic country.
South America, you'd clean up.
Well, let me tell you more about this.
This was his first time he elected to office.
He was actually elected to the office
on three separate occasions.
We've got a suggestion here from Patrick.
This could be a rich sitcom material for Tom, assuming he never wants to visit Italy again.
Just imagine a pontiff riding a skateboard around the Vatican in an Added a track suit.
Closer to home, I think.
Papal superlatives will make a riveting episode to be suggesting that there's a thing.
Interesting, though, because to keep going back, I'm racking my brain,
trying to think of managers have gone back.
David Moyes in Everton.
Howard Kendall had a second go at Everton.
Kenny Dalglish had a second go at Liverpool.
You know, it's never quite the same.
in the second time round, does it?
Do I reckon he filmed that?
I was a better Pope when I was 12.
More instinctive.
Absolutely.
Do you know what sticks out to me, though, when I think about it?
My understanding of the decision making about who becomes the Pope is that all the
pokes sit around and discuss it and decide which of them is going to be the best next
Pope.
That's right, isn't it?
And then they put smoke up and that guy is the Pope.
Is that my correct?
That's the basic working.
The way you've described it is really,
reduced it from the amazing tradition that's in my mind.
But essentially, that's what it is.
They have a chat about who's going to be the best Pope, and then the best Pope is
decided.
What is the situation where the 12-year-old has been chosen and is considered the best?
Who are the other options in the room?
Well, Tom, but isn't the whole process, it's very secretive.
So although they're locked in that room deciding, could it actually be a little
skateboarding contest?
Are they playing mouse truck?
It's a monopoly.
We don't know how they're.
actually decide we think they're discussing it.
It could be lots of little competitions, Tetris.
That's a really good point, actually.
Sensible soccer.
Imagine his school report.
Yeah, he's a bright boy.
Unfortunately, he has taken his eye off the ball
academically a little bit by being
God's representative on earth at the age of 12.
And so I am worried about his sats.
He's always late because the Pope-mobile so slow as well
on the way into school.
Being driven in by his mum,
embarrassed. We actually think it's gone to his head
a little bit. So thank you
very much for that, Patrick. That is a
I stand corrected. There was a much younger
pote than I expected. They're not always
getting on. I was entirely wrong.
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Welcome to our 10-part mini-series on Alexander the Great.
In this episode, I will be talking you through the origins of the conqueror himself.
Boys, what are you discussing?
After that, I'm going to be telling you about his education.
It's mind-blowing who he was taught by, I'll be honest.
And I'll be discussing what we know about Alexander the Great.
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so wish but shall we begin back in 356 BCE let's go back in time Alexander the third of
Macedon has just been born there he is look at him gorgeous oh how recently born because
They're a bit slimy to begin
So you say gorgeous
But there's an initial 15 seconds
When they're not gorgeous
And they need to be wiped down
Don't worry it up
They've cleaned him up
He's all right
He's all right
He's nesting
The old 15 seconds
Where you think to yourself
Oh my God
What have I done?
What is that?
I've bitten off more than I can chew you
Oh shit
I know this is very early
To go tangential
But did you cut the umbilical cord
God no I said I'll mess it up
Yeah that's what happened
Did they ask me
I said no you do it
I think this is this is your area
Yeah yeah
You carry on.
I did it, but it's like, I don't want to do this.
I just like the peer pressure.
I didn't want to get into the chat about it, so I did do it.
But I was like, you're the professionals.
When a cleaner doesn't come around your house and go, do you want to do it?
Yeah, I've got a squidgy if you want it.
Don't delegate.
I say there's a 15% chance.
I'm going to cut the wrong thing.
And it could be anything.
It could be a cable running up to some kind of heart monitor.
It could be my son's tone.
So I'm just getting in a war panic the wrong thing.
That was basically why he said.
I said, I said, I was like, I just cut his leg off.
So just do it.
And I'll do it to prove a point.
So you don't make me do it.
It's so disgusting as well.
Like, well, I don't know what that thing is.
It's kind of weird.
It's not disgusting.
It's amazing.
It makes, you know, it provides life in the womb, I'd say.
It's actually the most beautiful thing around.
Still got mine.
It's really nice.
The touch to me, yeah.
You wear it as a belt, don't you?
It's 200 miles long because my mother lives in West Wales.
Your dad refused to cut it.
It's nice.
Your mum can always find you.
When she needs you to come back home,
she'll sort of like start to roll it in.
Yeah, she'll just yank it.
Do you know one of those things that hoses are on in a garden?
Well, you turn the wheel and it brings you back in.
It's quite sweet.
Good idea, actually.
On a night out as well, you can just tie your umbilical cord to like the giraffe beer
and just pour it in without having to go to the bar.
Yeah, yeah.
There you go. So he's popped out, okay, Alexander the Great. He's looking great, according to you.
He's had the wipe down. That's where he's post-wiped-down. He's a post-wiped-down baby.
Lovely. Cotton bed sheets, there he is, snoozing.
He would reign Alexander III of Macedon from 336 to 323 BC, and he would go on to become one of the most, as we've established, famous figures in all of history.
But let's start his story before he's born. Let's start it with his parents and a family history that was already quite,
turbulent before he was born. His father is kind of a big deal. So Philip II of Macedon
wasn't expected to take the throne, very much like Queen Elizabeth II's dad, George
the 6th. Oh yeah. He was kind of expected to be a spare. He was in the royal family, but never
expected to take the throne. He had two older brothers, Alexander the second, and Perdiccas,
the third, as well as three younger stepbrothers.
So he's like the Prince Harry of the ancient world, basically, isn't he? I think he's even
Yeah.
Lower than Prince Harry.
Really?
He's well down the queues.
He's got two older brothers.
So there's no, he's, he's less than Harry.
Okay.
And he's got three younger stepbrothers as well.
He's got a daily male pullout,
but you wouldn't recognize him in the street.
I don't think he's even on a plate, you know?
He's not even at the back, the pullout at the back.
No, no.
He is on a plate, but the people who have his plate are complete of balls.
He's second row of St. Paul's when the Queen dies, basically.
He's like the second row of pews.
So he's just behind sort of Kate and William.
And you can see him.
Yeah.
Nicholas Witchell knows it is.
Your average punter in the street doesn't.
That's perfect.
So Philip II of Macedon, he was born in 382 BC.
He's the younger son of King Amintus III.
As I mentioned, he's got two older brothers.
Alexander II, Peridicus, the third, as well as three younger stepbrothers.
Now the path of the kingship,
as I've mentioned, it is very crowded.
Philip is far, far, far from the front of the line.
But Macedon was a dangerous place for kings.
In 368 BC, Philip's older brother, Alexander II, was assassinated.
The throne then passes to the next brother, Perdicchus III.
His reign doesn't last long, either.
He dies in battle in 360 BC.
With both older brothers gone, Philip stepped in as regent for his young Neufus.
nephew, the new king, Amintas the 4th. So his nephew, even his nephews, ahead of him.
Wow. But Philip was a skilled political player. Before long, he sidelined his own nephew,
who remained alive but powerless, unlike some English kings, who have done away with their
nephews. He did keep King Amintas the 4 alive. But he declared himself, Philip II of Macedon,
king in 359 BC. Now, as king, Philip stabilized Macon.
Macedon's shaky position.
He reformed the army, expanded its size, and he took on rivals across Greece.
He defeated enemy coalitions, including Athens, and by the mid-350s BCE, Macedon was becoming
a dominant power in the region.
How do you reform the army in 350 BC?
Yeah.
You can't even email your generals.
No, that's very true.
Such a bollick.
Word of mouth.
How does it work?
Pass it on, basically.
If you stood on something and started shouting,
only you, most 100 people are going to hear you.
That's a big job.
At best, it is pass this on to the guy to the left,
and then you're facing a real Chinese whisper situation, aren't you?
Yeah, yeah, you're a nightmare.
The trips at the back are getting entirely the wrong information.
Yeah, nightmare.
Do you know what, it's hard enough, like, reforming a football club
when you've got a squad of 18 players to do it for an army.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Before the birth of Christ.
At least with the football club, you can get them all in.
And you say, right, put your phones down and listen, because things are changing.
So, Philip, at this point, he is single.
But in 357 BCE, Philip married Olympius, a princess from the kingdom of Epirus,
a region in the northwest of Greece and southern Albania.
The marriage was political sealing and alliance, but Olympius was a remarkable figure in her
own right, strong-willed, ambitious, and closely associated with religious cults.
So both Alexander the Great's parents were a big deal. It reminds me a little bit,
you know, he's kind of been bred for success, isn't he really? It reminds me of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it Laura Trott, the cyclist, who's married a fellow cyclist?
Yes, that's right, yes. I think she is married to another cyclist, yeah.
If that kid isn't a well-champion cyclist, what's going on? You've got serious questions
have got to be asked. If he's still on a balance bike
at three, then you have to ask questions what's
not good enough.
What's going on there? So are you
saying he's a bit of a nepo baby, or is that a bit unfair?
So we say that Alexander is a
nepo baby? He's a nepo baby
who's in far more danger than
most nepo babies. That's true, exactly.
Most of the nepo babies I can think
of aren't going to get killed in battle potentially
unless they make very, very
different life choices. Brooklyn Beckham
or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
King Phillips, wife
Olympias wasn't always called Olympias.
According to the later historian Plutarch,
she was known as Polyzina,
then changed her name to Muratale
when she joined a religious cult
and finally adopted Olympius in 356 BCE.
And that year was the same year
that Phillips horses won at the Olympic Games.
Wow!
356 BCE.
That's amazing.
Well, you're astonished.
They won the 100 metres.
Yeah, but you know, it's funny, isn't it?
Because whenever I think of the royal family or our royal family with a horse,
I always think of Devon Locke, the Queen's horse falling at the national.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it's also, if his horses were winning,
it's kings of this period during their downtime,
which isn't the kind of thing you think about very often.
You tend to think of them in battle or making great strategic decisions
as opposed to going to watch the horse racing.
He's a stag.
I'd argue, though, it's actually not that impressive
because he's the king,
so he should have the best horses, shouldn't he?
Like, by dint of the fact, he's a king.
Like, he must have, he's not turning up
with some raggedy old donkey, he's bought.
Yeah.
You're not impressed.
Exactly, he's bought for a handful of corn
at some fare or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's looking a bit thin,
and he's off his food, actually.
He's not right.
He's not over the same.
You should, it should be a given,
that you win because you must have the best horse.
But there is still a culture
of that now. You still get members of the royal family
in equestrian and stuff like that during the Olympics now.
You get a Princess Anne did it, didn't she?
She did. Once again, she would have
had access to the best horse. And whenever they win a medal,
you're not impressed because you're, as you
always say, you should win.
Absolutely, you should have the best horse.
Exactly. So, back to
356 BCE. That same year,
Olympius gave birth to their son,
Alexander. Ancient writer,
especially Plutarch, love to embellish this moment with divine omens.
Olympias supposedly dreamed of a thunderbolt striking her womb.
Philip dreamed of sealing her womb with the image of a lion.
And later...
Okay, bit odd.
Yeah.
I stamp with it.
Come on, mate.
Yeah, yeah.
Jeez.
Mate, you're weird.
I'm having a kid with you.
You're weird.
Later, a serpent, this is important,
was said to have been seen in Olympius' bed,
which Philip interpreted as a sign that she had been visited by a god.
Ooh.
Or she was having an affair with a snake.
Yeah, all of it weird.
It's very weird at this point.
Anyway, the message was clear.
Alexander was destined for greatness, maybe even semi-divine.
For the Greeks, this wasn't just propaganda.
It was part of a pattern.
Many great leaders were rumoured to have divine parentage.
And later in life, Alexander would lean into this idea,
famously identifying himself as the son of Amun Zeus,
a fusion of the Greek god Zeus and the Egyptian god Amun.
Imagine that.
That's a big claimant.
A fusion of gods.
All these religions have combined and given birth to me.
No pressure.
Meanwhile, Philip, his dad, continued his campaigns.
At one point during the siege of Methone,
he lost an eye, an injury later woven into the divine narrative.
An oracle supposedly told Philip he'd lose the eye he used to spy on a god in the form of a serpent sharing his wife's bed.
So an oracle said, because you saw that serpent, whatever I you saw that serpent with, you're going to lose it.
Wow.
Because you were spying on the gods.
Philip and Olympias had one other child together, a daughter called Cleopatra, and like most royal daughters of the time, she was married off.
for political purposes, in this case, to her own uncle, Olympius's brother, Alexander I'm first of Iperus.
That is not ideal.
I mean, the thing is about all these intermarriages among the monarchies of old is that it really does simplify the Christmas get-together.
It does, I don't want to marry my niece.
I've got two nice girls, but it is not what I'm looking for in the relationship.
Philip himself had seven wives in total
but Olympias remained one of the most significant
in part because of her son's future.
By the late 340s BCE, Philip had transformed Macedon
into the dominant military power in Greece
but his greatest victory came in 338 BCE
at the Battle of Charonia
where he defeated the combined forces of Athens and Tebes.
With that win,
declared leader of the League of Conrith, effectively the commander of all Greek states united
against a common enemy, Persia. Obviously, that's going to become important later in the story too.
Now, if Philip and Olympius' marriage seemed politically cold, their life at court was anything
but modest. Philip built his palace at Agai, modern-day Virginia, the most impressive royal
residence in the Greek world.
It was three times the size
of the Parthenon in Athens.
Wow. Wow. It had
banquet halls. Okay.
Dozens of bedrooms, baths,
a gymnasium and even
a theatre. A David Lloyd.
He built a David Lloyd to live in.
I've been living in a David Lloyd with a
cafe.
Tennis.
Lived in a pewer gym. Wow.
I think having a property
that big would be annoying. I've always
thought that, that...
I agree.
Just, whenever you forget
something, somewhere else, he's like, oh, I've got to walk through
15 rooms to go and get my...
I agree. It would be a bollick.
I mean, like a...
Host up. Absolutely.
Yeah. I was in
Seoul Campbell's house with Soul
Campbell recently, and it was a
massive house. I said, wow, what a big
house. And he was like, it's too big.
So I think this is...
He looked really depressed when he told me.
It was like, they'd been
stressing him out living in this mansion.
So I imagine Philip the second was actually, it got annoying living in a David Lloyd for him.
Well, now then, this is potentially the angle that no historian has ever thought of.
He's been studied for 2,000 years, Alexander the Great.
But any bad decisions he makes, we can pin on the fact that he was living in a house that was so big it was a lion and he was stressed.
It created a monster.
We might have changed historical interpretations of Alexander the Great forever.
No historian's ever thought
Yeah, it would be a ballad
Yeah
Living in a David Lloyd
Yeah
Well a lot of psychologists
Look to the childhood
Don't they?
To see what went wrong
If someone loses their mind later in life
His house is massively stressful
He doesn't know where anyone is
Let me give you a C
Yeah
Yeah he's six
And he doesn't know where his shoes are
Mum
Mum
Mum
Mum
And he just walked in room to rum
Mum
Mum
Room 432
Mum
Mum mum
Mum
Mum, mum, where are my shoes, shoe, shoe, this is too big.
I'm on the 15th floor, floor, floor, floor.
It's untenable, tenable, tenable, tenable.
Who's all these people playing tennis in our gardens, gardens?
Why is our house got a vending machine?
I got a question there, Chris.
Why does gardens echo?
Gardens surely would be the one, but wouldn't it?
Well, it's in the winter where they've got those big inflatable bubble things.
yeah so philip's enormous mansion was a physical symbol of philip's dominance
a place where political power luxury and spectacle all came together for an exorbitant
£100 a month for a family membership but for philip controlling greece wasn't the end goal it was
just the beginning persia loomed across the egyptian and the vast empire to the east was the next
grand prize and in the palace at a guy a young Alexander was watching learning and waiting
for his turn oh come on whoa okay but mainly looking for his parents mainly trying to find
his parents yeah yeah he can't find his school books it's really really annoying he's playing
football with his friends he's already halfway through the match and he can't find his boots
he's lost his water bottle and he can't find his shit pads
far be it for me to complain,
Dad, but this is really amazing, okay?
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I think if you break it up, it loses something.
So I would get all the hearts now.
That would be my recommendation.
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