Oh What A Time... - #160 Comebacks (Part 2)

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

This is Part 2! For Part 1, check the feed!This week we’re looking at some of the greatest comebacks history has to offer. Where else to begin than the epic comeback that is Skoda cars! And what about the comeback of the West German economy after world war 2?! And finally, a literal comeback, Apollo 13’s incredible return from the moon after disaster struck.Elsewhere, how good is the tip as a day out? Has history anything better to offer in terms of pure enjoyment? If you know, let us know: [e-mail] And if you want more Oh What A Time, you should sign up for our Patreon! On there you’ll now find:•The full archive of bonus episodes•Brand new bonus episodes each month•OWAT subscriber group chats•Loads of extra perks for supporters of the show•PLUS ad-free episodes earlier than everyone elseJoin us at 👉 patreon.com/ohwhatatimeAnd as a special thank you for joining, use the code CUSTARD for 25% off your first month.You can also follow us on: X (formerly Twitter) at @ohwhatatimepodAnd Instagram at @ohwhatatimepodAaannnd if you like it, why not drop us a review in your podcast app of choice?Thank you to Dan Evans for the artwork (idrawforfood.co.uk).Chris, Elis and Tom x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Right. Welcome. To part two of great comebacks. Okay, lads, we're going back to 1945. Not a great point in history, to be honest, especially not in Germany. Germany was utterly defeated. One of the most shocking World War II videos I've seen, you can see this on YouTube.

There is like a flight over Berlin in May, 1945, at the end of the Battle of Berlin, at the end of the war. And it is a husk of a city. It's like the whole thing is just crushed. Just walls like chimneys of buildings as far as the eye can see. Just people walking around almost like zombies looking for food. And that is really what the whole country was like, militarily crushed, like completely morally exposed, physically ruined.

And the country at that point faced not merely reconstruction, but rehabilitation really on an almost unimaginable scale. The 12 years of Nazi. rule ended in utter catastrophe, almost unimaginable the damage in Germany, but also in wider Europe too. But specifically to Germany, five million German soldiers had been killed in the war, on top of one and a half million civilians. Some estimates actually say that Germany lost three million civilians and the physical damage. You can see it on that amazing video over Berlin, but also like the whole country, one fifth of all housing stock in

Germany had been destroyed nationwide. In some cities, the devastation was almost total. So Cologne lost more than 60% of its buildings. Dusseldorf lost over 90%. What? Yeah. And then also the industrial capacity of Germany as well was utterly shattered, some by Allied bombing, but also by Hitler's policy scorched earth to destroy its industrial capacity after the war. I think there's a Hitler quote. He says something like, as a nation we have lost our right to exist. So he orders the destruction of some industrial capacity as more and more Germany falls into Soviet hands.

Food, one thing you forget is that, obviously there's great starvation in Berlin after the Second World War, but food production across the whole nation fall into around half of its pre-war levels. So when you get the British zone of occupation, starting up in Germany, daily food rations in March, 1946, were set to around 1,000 calories per person.

Oh, man. I mean, a level of subsistence that is barely survivable, really. What is that, an adult man, like 2,200? 2,500, I think. Yeah, so you'd have to survive in 1,000 calories a day. But even then, so that's March 1946. By 1949, the rations have only risen to around 1,500 calories per day. So throughout this period, post-war period in Germany,

Germany is effectively starving, obviously it's exhausted, and you're looking at the prospect of real long-term poverty. But within a decade after the... Second World War, the picture is completely changed. By 1953, West Germany was Europe's largest economy. It was a great of growth so rapid that contemporaries spoke of it as the miracle on the Rhine. And from the 1950s, mid-1950s onwards, West Germany established itself as the industrial and economic engine of Western Europe, a transformation that doesn't really have many

parallels in all of modern history. In Japan, obviously devastated by conventional bombing and then atomic attack, It also experienced a dramatic post-war boom. South Korea emerging from Japanese colonial rule and the trauma of the Korean War would later undergo similarly rapid transformation, but also Britain, which did fairly rubbish after the Second World War.

Well, I'm reading an amazing book about this at the moment, Austerity Britain, 1945-51 by David Kinniston, which I think is Sunday Times book of the decade. It's going to come up a few times in the... Life was fucking horrible. going to come up. Britain in the 40s. Really?

Yes. Yeah. It's going to come up a few times in this section. So, but so hard. We are the winners of the Second World War. But when you look at like Japan, South Korea, like on paper the losers, they end up doing so much better than we did. And Dr. Tarrerl has posited a fantastic reason why, which I wasn't too aware of, but makes

a lot of sense. Despite Britain being the victorious side in 1945, the British economy acquired a reputation. Have you heard this before, Elm. the sick man of Europe. Sick man of Europe. In the post-war decades. Productivity in the British economy, struggling, effectively, for years and years.

So the entire question of this section really is, why did some defeated countries after the Second World War boom while the victorious one struggled? Yeah, that's really interesting. And the answer is, and I did kind of know this, American foreign policy. But this is what I didn't know. So American foreign policy changed over time.

In 1945, the United States had absolutely no desire to rebuild Germany or Japan. The post-war strategy was punitive. What they wanted to do, the overriding concern, was to make sure the defeated Axis powers could never again threaten global security. So in Germany, this translated to deliberate economic suppression. So the directive governing, the US zone of occupation, explicitly forbade any measures aimed at economic recovery. Industrial plant was dismantled, shipped abroad, heavy industry was restricted. Forests were cut down as part of a policy designed to remove the raw materials for a future warfare state.

So this program of deliberate debilitation continued in various forms until the early 1950s. Well, two world wars in 40 years. Matt. So, you know, they were just, well, less than 40 years. They were just desperate for it not to happen again. No, of course, I absolutely get a while. but it's remarkable how. Like the idea of felling forests is amazing.

I didn't know idea that happened. But this is why what became the EU. Yes. That's why they formed that. There's a great bunch of policies coming up in this section that transformed Europe and lay the groundwork for this big economic recovery. Just on Germany, there's a great bit of Norm MacDonald stand-up.

I think he has the last stand-up slot on Letterman. And Norm MacDonald says, everyone keeps going on about North Korea, but I'll tell you who really worries me, Germany. He's like, I don't know if you're history buffs or not, but there was a time where Germany declared war and they chose as their enemy the entire world. Yeah. Twice. And he goes, now you'd think that would be over in five minutes, but it was actually close. Yeah, two World Wars in third. So I've just done the maths in my...

They were just terrified of it happening again. You'd think you'd be stupid not to consider after the Second World War that this could happen a third time. Yeah. Fool me once. So what changed for Germany was a change in global politics. So between 1947 and 1949, the strategic landscape of the West really shifted. The Soviet Union began to consolidate control over Eastern Europe.

in 1949 the Chinese Communist Party won the Chinese Civil War. Across Asia and Europe, American policymakers feared a domino effect that poverty, instability and hunger would create fertile ground for communist revolution. So the logic in Washington quickly became starving people make good revolutionaries, but prosperous ones do not. So if Germany and Japan were to remain in the Western camp, they couldn't have just be expected to receive punishment. They needed prosperity.

So capitalism really had to demonstrate tangible benefits and quickly. And so what we got was a complete reversal of American foreign policy. So that between 1949 and 1957, United States helped construct a new international framework designed to lock Western Europe and Japan into a capitalist anti-communist order. And actually, I know this might make me sound like a massive capitalist, but I think a lot of what America and the United States and what Europe did in this time It was actually brought a lot of prosperity and a lot of security to the continent. So you had NATO founded in 1949, which was the collective military defense guarantee.

And then the European coal and steel community was created in 1951, which was the precursor to the European economic community, which became the EU. That bound West Germany's industrial hearts of France and its neighbours. Then the Treaty of Rome followed in 1957, creating the European economic community, which was the forerunner of today's European Union. Union in Asia, the US sponsored the Southeast Asia Treaty Organisation in 1954, and these institutions really just provided stability, and they were underpinned by something more immediate, lots and lots of money. So economic aid came principally through the Marshall Plan in Europe

and through government aid and relief in occupied areas in Japan. I didn't actually know these figures. I assumed that West Germany got a lot more money than the United Kingdom, and that was partly why where you struggled so much. It's actually not the case. So West Germany received around $1.45 billion. Japan got $2.2 billion. The UK actually got the most. 3.3 billion, like almost double what West Germany got.

But the outcomes are completely different. The thing with the European steel and coal community and the European economic community, the theory was if those big European economies were completely dependent on each other, then they wouldn't go to. to war. Yes.

Right, yes. It's a sound strategy. Yeah. So as long as those economies were interlinked and interdependent, then they couldn't control each other. Yeah. So the outcomes diverged really sharply, but not because of the amounts they received,

but because of how the money was used. So West Germany and Japan, both under Allied occupation and prohibited from large-scale rearmament, had no defence burdens. So they're being told you're not allowed an army. You're not allowed to invest in. So basically what they did with that money is they invested in modern industrial plant infrastructure, education, export-oriented manufacturing. They built from scratch and basically all of that money was effectively used really efficiently.

But Britain, by contrast, it had to kind of behave like a great power, like an imperial state. And as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, it had to maintain really high military spending. It couldn't really afford anymore. And nuclear weapons, which obviously are very expensive. Oh, man. So rather than retooling industry wholesale, Britain muddled through with ageing infrastructure and incremental reform. And that's why I cycle around London,

because I can't get their train into town because it's always delayed. God, bad. But would you have it any other way, though, well? Because if Marshallade, that's why I cycle 80 miles a week. I'm going to talk about infrastructure shortly. Let's talk about rationing. This section is insane. So food rationing ended in West Germany in 1950.

In Britain, rationing continued until 1954. 1954. Whoa. The losers of the Second World War ended rationing before the winners by four years. Which was politically an enormous problem in the UK for the Labour Party. And also for the Conservatives, but certainly for the Labour Party. They were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we won. How do we only get two eggs and eat a week?

Where's the plenty of Germans can eat as many eggs they like? I don't think I knew that. I knew rationing ended in Britain, but I didn't realise the West Germans had beaten us by four years. Also, no way I'm managing to not lose my little rationing book between 1939 and 1954. Oh, yeah, yeah. You'd be dead. Where's it got? He's gone.

I mean, can I sugar-cooked this? You'd be dead. You would have died. Give me the year that I would last under rationing. It don't mean I'm getting shot in war. 1994. You'd live to 40. You'd certainly won't.

I'd have no idea who won the war. So I'm imagining. Luz my rationing book. Haven't eaten enough that day. A bit faint. Fall downstairs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, LN, you touched on infrastructure.

And if one, if there's one thing Britain, and particularly London is famous for, it's fantastic infrastructure. So let's tell the post-World War story. of infrastructure. Japan built its first high-speed railway in... Would you like to guess? 1965?

1950. They started building it in 1959, and it opened in 1964. Okay. Wow. Amazing. West Germany followed just behind. They built their first high-speed railway in 1973, and all major routes had completed by 1991.

Boys, when did Britain open its first? High-speed rail line. Have we done it yet? We're just losing failing Victorian signalling. Again, that's why I cycle eight to miles a week, because I can't align the trains. Isn't that what HS2 is? Yeah. And the clues in the title, High Speed 2, we've just now, in the Year of Our Lord 26, moving on to our second one.

And the first one opened in 2003. Wow. Yeah? West Germany. I've never been on it, and I love the train. It's been very between Chippenham and... Yeah, yeah. Chiswinden.

It's a 24-minute route. It should take 26. I mean, I'm patriotic, but we are terrible at stuff like this. I didn't realise that... By the way, I didn't realise that's what HS stood for. What did you think it stood for? I didn't really think it... I didn't find it interesting enough to explore it, to be honest.

I just heard HS2 and I was happy that was the answer. Switched off. I'm busy. I can't be bothered to find that out. So the... The economic transformation in West Germany was extraordinary, even by modern standards. So some more stats. Unemployment fell around 10% in the early 1950s to 1%.

Six million additional jobs were created in West Germany. This GDP per capita. Annoying if you're in that 1%. That must be so frustrating. The GDP per, yeah. How bad, like how bad is your CV? It's just your parents having to go at you. There are jobs out there.

I'm trying. Giusevi written in crayon to end up in that last 1%. Literally everyone's employed, mate. Come on. The GDP per capita doubled between 1950 and 1960. Within 15 years of total defeat, West Germany had become one of the richest and most productive societies on all of earth. Amazing.

See, there you go. That's the story of how the defeated rebuilt and how the victors had to learn from them and deal with the consequences such as the fact that now I do most of my shop. at German supermarkets like Aldi and Lidl. Love that random Ireland liddell where you can buy, like a, what would it be like? A night vision bottle and stuff of that, isn't it? A foot spa.

And a hovercraft. A backscratcher. Yeah. Love it. Long may it remain. Right, to wrap up today's show, I'm going to tell you all about quite possibly the greatest comeback in modern history out in space.

So I've got a question for you to begin with. What do you think is the furthest a human has ever travelled from Earth? I had no idea about this. It's fascinating. What do you think the furthest, I don't need a number. What do you think the furthest a human or a group of humans has travelled? Well, isn't the moon quarter of a million miles? Yes, ish, yeah.

The furthest of human has ever travelled from Earth. I know this. It's the far side of the moon, isn't it? So it is not actually the moon itself. The world record is 248,655 miles, which is enough to be getting on with from Earth, and was achieved by the astronauts James Lovell, Fred Hayes, John Swigert, during the Apollo 13 mission. Do you know when that happened, Chris? At what point they achieved that distance?

In the failed attempt to land on the moon, isn't it? Actually, it was in their effort to get back to Earth while swinging around the far side of the moon following an in-flight emergency. You know how if you take the wrong turning, Google Maps will eventually reroute you. Imagine the reroute being you're going to have to swing around the dark side of the moon. Okay. So annoying. Feels like it's going to take a while. When that blue line changes on the sat nav.

Yeah. And it's another 100,000 miles. So let me give you some context about this. And this is an incredible story. We're going to go back to 1970, okay? At which point the Apollo Space Programme, it's riding high. the Apollo 11 mission. There's just been a huge success. The first mission to land humans on the moon and bring crew home safely, which marked not only a US victory in the space race, also a pinnacle

of human scientific achievement. I've thought about that a lot. Imagine watching that on telly as a child or just that step must have been remarkable. I still remember, genuinely, remember watching Channel 5 launching when I was like 12 on telly and it's starting. with me. It's like a big moment. I'm probably a bit old than that actually. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. About 15 or 16. But the idea of watching something that dramatic and that's such a leap in human achievement just must have been incredible. Well, I think you must have thought, okay, we've done this by 19609. By 1979, where will we be? Yeah. And by 1999, we'll be on Mars. And it just must have, the possibilities must have seemed, you know,

almost infinite. Yeah, absolutely. And also, we've been born. into a generation where you accept that you leave the solar system and can get out into space. The idea that that suddenly became possible must have an incredible thing to witness. Apollo 12 had also succeeded. That landed a second crew on the lunar surface and all six of the Apollo missions

would take crews to the moon and bring them back, including Apollo 14, 15, 16 and 17. However, Apollo 13 is the one we're talking about today. This is a dramatic story, so nearly a disaster. Call it Apollo 12A. Just skip it. Skip it. Skip it.

Pretend it never happened. However, it was so nearly a disaster. It stopped the space program and its tracks for more than half a century. It's the consequence of this nearly disastrous mission. It all happens two days into the mission in April 1970 when following a freak occurrence. And I think, incidentally, this is one of the scary. sentences I've ever read, most of the spacecraft's oxygen supply was vented into space. Imagine someone coming, knocking on the door, where we are in the spacecraft,

opening and going, just to let you know, most of the oxygen has just been vented into space. Oh, yeah. There's a bit, I've written the book, I'm sure they look out the window and they can see it escaping into space. I'm sure that that's a scene in the book. How are you reacting to that news, first of all? How are you dealing with that? Diaryia. Which is in zero gravity.

I must admit, I've now vented myself into the spacecraft. Just as the oxygen is being vented outside. It would be diarrhea forever until death. Diarrhea in zero gravity would join a long list of problems. Horrible, like a lava lamp. So to survive, okay, the crew, they take river. refuge in the lunar module, squeezing four people into an environment designed for just two people, and they start working quickly to find a way to get home alive, okay? The oxygen, as if it couldn't get any

worse, the oxygen was not needed only for breathing. It was also to generate fuel and to power the spacecraft, so without it, they couldn't go anywhere. Yeah, God. It is, you can barely get your mind around how impossibly awful this is. Do you know what? Do you want to do you? What? You want, It's a bit like, I often think about people breaking down in a pre-mobile phone era. Like someone breaking down, I don't know, in the new forest at 2am. And you think, God, I'm really out on my own here. Like, no. Apollo 13 could not get towed.

No, no, no, no. Some guy in a high vis. Yeah. You're the furthest anyone has ever been from Earth. And you've essentially broken down. Oh, my God. So shortly after 10 p.m. Eastern, on April the 13th, 1970, Jim Lovell, this mission commander, he radios Houston to tell them something has gone wrong.

Do you know what he says? What's the famous? Houston, we have a problem? Well, that is what people think, he said. Yeah, he says something is slightly different, does he? He actually says, fuck. Oh, fuck. I remember this in the book, is it?

It's garb or it's not a million miles. Is it Houston, we think we have? No, it's worse than that, Chris. He goes with Houston, we had a problem. Okay. Oh, come on. Which I think, even in that situation, would annoy me.

I'm thinking whatever happens, that's going to be remembered. Houston, Weir had a problem. Outside a cloud of dust, debris and gas trails Apollo 13 for some 20 miles. And now with limited supplies on board, mission control and the in-flight crew, race to rig the lunar module for use. They start to reprogram its software. The brain's involved in this. It's incredible.

They do the calculations. They double-checked from Houston. They maneuver the rocket to perform. And this is unbelievable. a slingshot around the moon, thus using the momentum and careful nudges from what remained of their energy to get back to Earth. Which, funnily enough, is what I'd have done, I think, probably. I imagine that sort of thing I'd have suggested at that. Well, I cannot, I cannot think if I'm hungry.

So, before I did those calculations, I would have to have a sandwich. You've just cleared yourself out, as we've explained. You're extra hungry. There's nothing in there. We're going to have to slingshot around the moon. Has anyone got any crisps? I've just Googled it. I read it.

It's called Apollo 13 by Jim Lovell. And I remember they're doing the calculations, but basically it's all manual. Yeah. It's like driving a go, they've got to do it by timings. They're like, if you get that in the window and you press that bar

and then you'll probably be right. Your whole life is at stake. It's like a carnival game, but it's your life is the price. It's worse than that, because literally any miscalculation and they will not survive this. It really is that.

They have to get it right or they will not survive. You know how football managers they have a contingency if someone gets sent off in the first five minutes. Was there a contingency or are they just working all this out on the hoof? From what I can make out, basically they're working this out on the hoof because they have no power and the option is depleted massively. And the experience, unsurprisingly, it's horrific.

The astronauts endure incredible hardship. Lovell describes it later as being as cold as frogs in a frozen pond. And even simple things like the normal habit of jettisoning urine into space, that has to be abandoned. So the astronauts' urine is now being collected in bags. It's just with them. I have to say, actually, at that point, I don't really care about the urine. Least of my problems.

I think as soon as I hear the sentence, the spacecraft's oxygen has been vented in space, I'm wetting myself anyway. I've got no problem with piss. But there's bags of piss everywhere. Ellis has got diarrhea. We're freezing. There's no food. Ellis has eaten all the sandwiches

because he can't think when he's hungry. Can you jettison me into outer space? Yeah. And they also have to jerry-rig an air purifier to get rid of CO2 or else face suffocation. And as news filters out that something's gone wrong on board, television and radio audiences, which had grown complacent about spaceflight over previous years,

were suddenly fascinated by the stars. And amongst them, Richard Nixon, the then president, when the astronauts do manage to land incredibly on the April 17th after a six-day mission, Nixon declared there's a human drama that gripped the world. 40 million Americans alone watch the splashdown on television. Wow. Oh my gosh. Now, we remember Apollo 13 is a remarkable comeback,

but in truth, it actually made American officials really anxious about the future of manned missions in space, which, to be fair, I do get. Officials became convinced that eventually someone would die and that they'd run out of comebacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And crucially, Nixon, with an eye on his re-election campaign in 72, was convinced by his advisers that any deaths on his watch

would cost him political capital. He'd been the president when man had walked on the moon and he didn't want to be in office if anyone perished there, essentially. so that if it went wrong, it would really damage his brand. And so Nixon, he tries to immediately end the Apollo program altogether. I did not know about this. When he was talked down, he tries again to get it closed after Apollo 14, again after 15, before finally getting his way in 1972,

this time with huge budget cuts, adding financial pressure on NASA. And in a way, if Jim Lovell and his crew are our heroes, then Nixon was the villain of the story. NASA had wanted to build on the success of Apollo 11 and 12 by setting humans on track to go to Mars which is a dream of scientists and science fiction writers for decades but it was Nixon worried about how it would impact him that basically said no and stopped all that

In fairness though I don't think I've ever said this in relation to Richard Nixon before but for a bunch of Americans or American scientists and astronauts to come that close to dev I can understand why you would think this is just too dangerous Of course Yeah

Also we don't need to go to the moon There's a theme in the book that people I mean when you look back They're doing this in the 60s But by the time you get to Apollo 13 People are just treating it like Oh you know This is an amazing achievement

And it's incredibly risky But people had forgot the risk Because it had been so normalized Going to the moon Yeah But then it's a counter argument That that is the choice Of the people going there

And if his concerns really Are the political ramifications then that concern is actually not coming from a good place. That is a self-serving place, possibly. That could be arguing. Do you see what I'm saying? No, actually, the opposite, that Nixon's concerns were not really,

it could be argued, for the astronauts. It's more the impact on him should it get wrong. And that's what his advisors were advising him. Well, I remember the Challenger disaster, 1986. It's one of the first news stories I remember watching on the telly. Yeah. And, you know, all of the astronauts on board died. It was, if it went wrong, horrific.

It was horrific. Well, and it did have this huge impact, okay? So it stopped for ages. And then eventually, 20 years later, weirdly, with the release of Apollo 13, drawing huge audiences, earning Oscar nominations, human imagination again really took to space again. That's when it really kicked on yet again. In a weird way, Tom Hanks kind of saved the day in terms of that renewed interest. In 1997, the Mars Sojourner robot,

landed on Mars, the first wheeled vehicle ever put there by humans as part of the Pathfinder Mission. Remember that well, amazing thing. And then a year later, the International Space Station was launched in 1998. And these tentative steps were partly designed to overcome years of reticence and so set humans back on the road to space exploration. I'll end on Lovell's words. He says, our mission was a failure, but I like to think it was a successful failure. Amazing. I think you've been... Even to say your mission was a failure, it's quite hard on yourself. You went into space, the thing went wrong,

and you managed to work out a slingshot yourself and all your crew back to World Safely. It's an amazing achievement. Can't believe I'm now Richard Nixon's biggest fan. By the way, the book I read was Lost Moon, The Perilist Voyage of Apollo 13 by Jim Lovell. It is well worth, it's fascinating. It's just...

One of those books where you read and it makes you so cozy at night in your bed, like at least I'm not on the far side of the moon, covered in piss and diary. Yeah. I'm just in my bed covered in piss and diary. It could be worse. So there you are. That is the story of Apollo 13. Once again, thanks so much to our fantastic historian, Dr. Darrell Leeworthy.

He does so much for the show and finds us wonderful stuff to talk about. So I love today's episode. And thank you, Darry for that. And thank you very much for listening. If there's any subjects, you want to suggest to us, by the way, that you'd like us to explore, do send them in, and if you're a top-tier Patreon fan, then we will cover one of those every month.

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