Oh What A Time... - #164 The Great Train Robbery - Oh What A Crime (Part 2)

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

This is Part 2! For Part 1, check the feed!This week we’re working through a bit more of your correspondence before dealing with our first ever ‘Oh What A Crime’ episode which today focuses on: The Great Train Robbery of 1963. The planning, Bruce Reynolds, Buster Edwards, Ronnie Biggs et al, the heist itself, the loot and life on the run.Elsewhere, how did anyone in 1160 survive without caffeine? And is there a worse person to meet than a coked-up Nazi? All this and more this week and if you’ve got anything to add, you know what to do: [e-mail] from now on Part 1 is released on Monday and Part 2 on Wednesday - but if you want more Oh What A Time and both parts at once, you should sign up for our Patreon! On there you’ll now find:•The full archive of bonus episodes•Brand new bonus episodes each month•OWAT subscriber group chats•Loads of extra perks for supporters of the show•PLUS ad-free episodes earlier than everyone elseJoin us at 👉 patreon.com/ohwhatatimeAnd as a special thank you for joining, use the code CUSTARD for 25% off your first month.You can also follow us on: X (formerly Twitter) at @ohwhatatimepodAnd Instagram at @ohwhatatimepodAaannnd if you like it, why not drop us a review in your podcast app of choice?Thank you to Dan Evans for the artwork (idrawforfood.co.uk).Chris, Elis and Tom x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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where else in history you might have popped up. For all your options, you can go to patreon.com forward slash oh, water time. Hello and welcome back to part two. This is the Great Train Robbery. This is our first, oh, what a crime. Thank you to Ray Ray for suggesting this. Let's get on with the show. So, how much do we know about the Great Train robbery?

A little bit. Little to nothing. Obviously, Ronnie Biggs, very famous. Ronnie Biggs. Britain's most famous fugitive? Yeah, and I've seen the film. So a small amount of working knowledge. When you say the film, do you mean Buster?

Buster. Oh, what a film. What a film this is. We'll touch on Buster actually at the end of the episode, but let's go back now. Yes, let's go back to the 8th of August, 1963. So what became the Great Train Robbery is about to begin. The target of the operation,

sorry, I'm out of breath from what I've done. Chris just had to go and open the, after the door. Just explaining it to a listener, if anything's captured that you would not be the man who could pull off a train robbery and escape from the law, it's the fact that you've come up two flights of stairs to him. It was a delivery man, and ordinarily I wouldn't answer the door, but it was a huge box. And I'm like, well, he can't leave that on the front. So I ran up and down. Now, Matt, breath.

There you go. Okay. The target is a Glasgow to London Royal Mail train, officially the 150am up special from Glasgow to Houston. and it's carrying high-value mailbags from Scotland and the north of England to London. And among the contents, contents are used banknotes, so old £1 and £5-pound notes that are about to be withdrawn from circulation. This is going to be important, actually. I am very briefly, it shows how lazy I am,

that immediately my reaction to the idea of a 150am crime as a criminal, I could see myself immediately going, are there any daytime options? Yeah. I get what you're saying. You're someone who's not willing to get up early or stay up late for £60 million. Yeah, exactly. Is there like a 2pm Glasgow to London train

that we could hit? But yeah, so it's actually the cash that was stolen was old £1 and £5 £5 notes that have been withdrawn from circulation. That becomes important later on because they're able to track that cash as it went back into circulation.

But it is the thing. The train is not heavily going. There's no armed escort. There's no police detail, just railway staff. So for seasoned criminals, it's not a fortress. It's an absolute opportunity. Interestingly, we'll get into the masterminds now, but for many years, it was known that there was an insider in this operation who tipped off the criminals that this operation could be done. Someone that the robbers referred to as the Ulsterman, who kind of was an insider that tipped them off. And that name of who that individual was never really came out until 2014. When really? It was revealed that the Ulsterman was likely this man called Patrick McKenna, who was a 43-year-old postal worker living in Salford. He was originally from Belfast. And apparently he tipped off the robbers is the theory

because he thought it was sickening that there was no armed escort on this train and it was actually quite dangerous. There's no real, the family were really shocked when McKenna's name came up. But it transpired that when he died. he died poor so he didn't necessarily get the money the theory is that he donated the money he got as his share

of the crime to the Catholic Church Wow Yes When he said he thought he was sickening Wow And then his response is I'm going to tell some criminals about it Yeah it's an interesting It's an interesting one

This theory is out there And there's lots of discussion of it online It's not necessarily suggesting it wasn't here But there was a character called the Ulstraman And this is the leading theory at the moment It was this postal worker There are so many amazing characters in this story of varying levels of ability, and I can't wait for you to meet them. The first one we'll talk about is Bruce Reynolds, who is widely considered as the architecture of the whole plan.

So if you've seen the film, you'll know Bruce Reynolds. He's intelligent, ambitious, very much an organized criminal. He wanted something bigger than small-time burglary. He wanted the big heist. Incredible footnote to Bruce Reynolds. So Bruce Reynolds, if you've seen Buster the film, you know they escaped to Mexico. And obviously Ronnie Biggs goes to South America as well. But Bruce Reynolds has a son called Nick Reynolds, who goes on to be a member of the band, the Alabama 3, whose song woke up this morning became the opening theme of the sopranos.

The sopranos. Wow. So there's a soprano's link to the Great Train robbery. That's amazing. There was also Buster Edwards, a professional thief, whose story is told in the film Buster, starring Phil Collins, Charlie Wilson, who's experienced in organised robbery. There's Roy James, who's the getaway driver.

There's Gordon Goody, Jimmy White. All in all, there is approximately, I think there's actually like 15. 11 men were sentenced, but they think the total... Jimmy White snooker player, that is as well as you. Yeah, just worse for that. The total crew was about 15 people who each got a share. But one of those, probably the most famous character in the whole great train robbery, is Ronnie Biggs. But Ronnie Biggs' job is so niche.

His job is to go recruit one key piece of personnel, which is a train driver, to drive the stoned locomotive. That's going to become important in a minute. Oh, after they've nicked it. Interesting. Yeah. So once they've got the train, they need a train driver. Ronnie Big's sole job is to get a train driver and manage that train. train drivers, he moves the train along to meet the getaway cars that are going to be filled up

with the cash. There's a lot of planning, isn't there? There's a lot of logistics. This isn't a gang of amateurs by any stretch. These men, new prisons, they knew police procedure. They understood how far British policing could realistically stretch. As we get into the plan itself, they're going to be listening to police radio and they're going to be aiming to get away. It's actually really well organised. The plot really gained traction thanks to the Ulsterman, we touched on before, who provided details of what the train was likely to be carrying in terms of cash, the carriage configuration, the fact there wouldn't be any armed security, and they also informed them that the train would briefly stop at a specified signal. And that signal at Bridge-go

bridge near Cheddington, which later would become known at Continental Rail as the Great Train Robbery Bridge, and then subsequently renamed again because people were like, oh, I'm a little bit uncomfortable with this. Yeah. As a passenger, I'm not feeling huge. hugely reassured, as I'm told that's the next stop. So, yeah, National Railway will actually change the name of the bridge to the Great Train Robbery Bridge and then subsequently changed it again to something else in the years later. Optics are bad, I think.

Maybe this is the point to talk about. It's interesting Britain's relationship to this crime because maybe because of the film Buster, which was criticised, but you do kind of feel yourself sympathising or wanting the robbers to do well or feeling like this is a victimless crime when it isn't. we'll get into. It is. Absolutely not. Yeah.

Well, it's a similar thing with like the craze and that sort of period of crime in general. That is insane to me. Yeah, absolutely. A lot of 60s and 70s gangland British crime has in time been... They only shot their own. Repackaged Rose Tintin. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, completely.

It was just brutal, isn't it? This is one of the criticisms leveled at the film Buster. Yeah, glamourised it really romanticised the whole great train robbery. And I think it actually does speak to. to the fact that this nation has a really difficult relationship with this crime, and that we haven't really resolved even now, as the National Rail Renaming that Bridge goes. So let me talk you through the gang's plan.

Very simple. They're going to interfere with the railway signals to make the train stop. They're going to board the locomotive, overpower the crew. They're going to move the train along the track, disconnect some of the carriages, move it to a quieter location. From there, all the guys are going to transfer the money to waiting vehicles. They're going to have vanished before dawn, and they're going to head to a remote farmhouse, a leather slayed farm,

which is going to act as a temporary hideout. They're going to divide the money, and then they're going to destroy all the evidence of leather slayed farm and move off and then sail off into the sunset and never get called. It's bold. It relied on timing and communication, but also one massive assumption that British policing in 1963 was simply not equipped to deal with something this organised.

So now we get to the big moment. It's the 8th of August, 1963. It's 3am. The Royal Mail train approaches the signal at Bridgego Bridge. They're expecting a red signal somewhere in this area and they don't see green. They see red. And quite incredibly, what the gang has done is they've covered up the signal.

The green light is on, but they've covered it up with a glove. Oh, wow. So you can't see the green light. And then they've cracked into the signal light and attached a battery to activate the red. Wow. And so driver Jack Mills, he stops the train. and that's when the robbers strike.

So Jack Mills, probably this is the thing. It's not a victimless crime. Jack Mills is hit over the head with an iron bar. Yeah, with a kosh. Struck over the iron bar. He survives, but he has lasting trauma, headaches for the rest of his life. Oh, that's awful. And Jack Mills is going to become important in a second.

The gang, so the driver's down. There's also, there's other people in the train who put up a bit of a fight too, but basically the robbers are able to overcome resistance and take the train. Their target was the high-value packages. So what they do is they disconnect the train to just leave the locomotive at the front and the high-value packages carriage. And they're now, Ronnie Biggs' job. Ronnie Biggs is probably the most famous criminal in this whole affair.

His job is to hire a train driver. He's got the train driver there. By all accounts, this train driver is retired. He's very old. He's very doddry. Ronnie Biggs, his job is to match. manage the train driver, make him move the train. They get in there, they get into the locomotive,

and the train driver realizes he's never driven a train like this specific model before. Oh, my God. So where does the coal go? He's doddery, he's useless. Ronnie Picks. Wow. They're like, oh God, what we're going to do? They then have to go back to Jack Mills and get him,

the original driver who's been injured, to hit in the head with the iron arm. He has to move the train on. So this is where... This is not a victimless crime at all. No, absolutely not. And also, aside from the guy who's been hit, the stress for the other staff who just witnessed to this

and the PTSD you've got to experience after that as well. Yeah, they're handcuffed and put down and face down in the trains. Yeah, yeah. There's quite a few members of staff on board and they're overcome. Wow, awful. So the train moves on to Bridgego Bridge. The gang then, they form a human chain, and they begin transferring the 120 sacks of bankers.

into waiting vehicles. As I said at the start, they're expecting 300 grand. They actually get 2.6 million. They could have had more. They actually leave some bags behind. But Bruce Reynolds, the boss of the operation, said we can't be here for longer than 30 minutes because at that point, it's likely the police

are going to become aware and come for us. So we need to get out of here. So they actually left lots of cash on the train. There was quite a few more bags. But there was no guns fired, no alarms triggered. By dawn, the train crew, was shaken and injured, but they're still alive. The gang then drive on to the Leather Slade Farm

where they plan to lay low for a few days before dispersing. And it's there that they discover how much cash they've actually made. As I said, it's 16 million. I remember that scene in the film. They can't believe on much money there is. They cannot believe it.

Yeah. So they begin dash at, like sharing out their share. One of the things they do while they're at the farm. They can't be going, one for you, one for me. It has to be more. surely of a sort of general approach to it. It's like a four sacks for you, whatever. One of the things that proves their undoing

is that while they're at the farm, to pass the time, they play a game of monopoly. But with real cash. No. One of the details I love most about this crime. And that actually, the fingerprints on the monopoly board would be responsible for bringing down a lot of the gang. Wow.

You want to buy the train stations if you're playing that game. That's what you want if you're for real bragging rights in the retelling of the story. So 8th of August, 1963, the gang as the dawn emerges, begin to think they've made the perfect crime, but they're wrong. Because within hours, Scotland Yard has mobilised, what would become one of the largest criminal investigations in British history. Famously as well in Buster, and this actually happened, they're listening to the radio.

And there's news bulletins. But this is the biggest robbery. of all time. 2.6 million pounds in cash has been vanished from the national railway system. The Home Office in particular demanded results. And there's a big outcry from the authorities because there is public sympathy towards the robbers. And so the authorities make it clear that when the robbers are catch, they are going

to have the book thrown at them. And that indeed proves to be the case. We'll get onto the sentences in a bit. So the investigation was led by Detective Chief Superintendent Tommy Butler, head of the Metropolitan Police's Flying Squad. a specialist unit dealing with armed robbery. Butler, methodical, this relentless, utterly unromantic about criminals individual. So interestingly enough, the investigation begins,

but they hit a bit of a brick wall in terms of getting any leads about where the farm is. The robbers hear that they're beginning to scout around local farms. They suspect that they've gone to a hideout somewhere within a kind of 30-minute radius of where the crime, took place to lay low. So the police begin scouring the local area. But a big lead comes when one of the flying squad is told in an exclusive West End Club that there is an informer willing to divulge the identity of the robbers because this individual knew them and had been accused of other crimes.

It was basically looking for a way to get a lighter sentence. So he tips the police off about some of the names and that becomes important in their discovery. So the criminals intend to lie low. The plan was to kind of hide inside this farmhouse and then disperse after a while, but make sure the evidence is completely destroyed. But the guy responsible for destroying all the evidence and potentially even burning down the farmhouse takes the money and does a runner.

Oh, wow. So at this point, the criminals have left. They're expecting someone to come in and clear all the evidence. And then they hear that this guy hasn't actually gone in and clear all the evidence. So robbers go to return to the farm to destroy all the evidence themselves and burn it down. but on the way there they hear on the radio that the farm has been discovered. Oh, that's incredible. And when the police go in there, they find food packaging, bedding,

they find the Monopoly Board, and most importantly, they find lots and lots of fingerprints. But of course, this is 1963, so there's no DNA to be found. Fingerprinting was the way that crimes like this were discovered. And within days, fingerprints from Leather Slade Farm matched men with existing criminal records, including Buster Edwards, Roy James and Charlie Wilson. So the police know who they are. And the arrests begin to follow quite swiftly afterwards. There's an interesting footnote in terms of the first person to get arrested.

So the first member of the gang to get caught was a guy called Roger Cordry. And he asked his friend, William Bowle, to help him lie low. So what the pair of them did is that they moved into William Bowles flat, which was in above a florist shop in Bournemouth. And they decided, and Cordy basically gave Boll the money to pay three months rent. in advance and Boll pass it on to his landlady, a lady called Ethel Clark, who just happened to be the widow of a former police officer, who thought this behaviour strange, reported it to the police.

Amazing. And the police were able to convict Caudry. But in a miscarriage of justice, his friend William Boll, who was not involved, was also convicted of the train robbery and died in prison. No way. Yeah. Oh, that's heartbreaking. Yeah.

So he had nothing to do with it? to do with it. He helped. I mean, it's kind of conspiracy, isn't it, a little bit? Because he's helping his friend who's on the run. But he wasn't involved in the, William Boll, who was convicted of the Great Train robbery and sentenced to 24 years in prison in 1970. He was not actually involved in the gang proper. So the rest of the gang begin to come down. There's identifications and arrests. Some members of the gang were picked up within weeks. Others attempted to go underground. But Britain in the 1960s was not a, yet a country of easy disappearance.

Surveillance was tight, borders monitored, criminal networks were known to police. But by early in 1964, most of the key conspirators were in custody. The trial began in 1964, January, at Aylesbury Crown Court. It lasted three months, and the sentences are absolutely extraordinary.

Let me read out a few. So Ronnie Biggs gets 30 years. Douglas Gordon Goody gets 30 years. I mean, most of the vast majority of the gang get 30-year prison term. There's a few 25 and 20 years sentences handed out, far harsher than typical robbery sentences of the era and the judge wanted to make clear this was an incredibly famous case

and it needed an incredibly famous deterrent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is where the Great Train robbery takes another term, which I think, again, just pushes it into the British imagination. So in August 1964, Charlie Wilson, who is one of the robbers, escapes from Winston Green Prison in Birmingham. Three men poses visitors. They overpower the guards and help Wilson walk out.

He fled to Canada living under an assumed identity near Montreal, but the police never stopped looking. And in 1968, after years of international coordination, Wilson was tracked down and re-arrested in Canada, and he was returned to Britain to complete his sentence. You've also got Bruce Reynolds. I would be so bad at living under an assumeant identity. Constantly giving your name is that?

What's you think, me, Alice. I mean, Greg. Yeah, absolutely. And Bruce Reynolds, the architect, he fled with his wife and young son. He lives in Mexico and then Canada. They lived comfortably on the stolen money for several years, as did Buster Edwards. But the money, they had lived particularly lavish lifestyles. And that money drained very quickly. So in 1968, following a tip-off and careful surveillance, Reynolds is arrested in Torquay

after returning quietly to Britain. And he was sentenced to 25 years and served around. 10 before release and Reynolds wrote memoirs and carefully kind of cultivated the mythology of the Great Train robbery. Bust Redwoods did the same, but as is depicted in the film, he moves to South America, spends a little bit of time there, but eventually just the pull of home brings him home and he's arrested on his return to the UK, again serving a similar amount of time 10 years. But the most famous, again, of this whole operation, Ronnie Biggs. So he's convicted, he's convicted of armed robbery. He has his massive, uh, three.

30 year sentence. But in July 1965, with the help of some accomplices who throw a rope ladder over Wandsworth prison walls,

he scales, and he's out of it. He fled first to Paris. Wow. Where he had plastic surgery to alter his appearance. And I don't

have you ever seen the before and after of Ronnie Biggs. I couldn't see that much difference. I know. It's a side parting, isn't it?

You've parted your hair. I mean, plastic surgery in the mid-60s is going to be pretty rudimentary, isn't it? Yeah. So, yeah, he fled to Paris. He has plastic surgery. And then from there he moves through Australia and then finally to Brazil in 1970

because Brazil had no extradition treaty with Britain. And it was there that Biggs lived openly in Rio de Janeiro for decades, fathering a Brazilian child, which under local law complicated any extradition attempt even further. Like I say, Britain's most famous fugitive. He gave interviews, posed for photographs.

He recorded music with the sex pistols. The most famous celebrity outlaw, I would say, possibly in British history. Oh, definitely, yeah. He was in the paper quite a lot, Ronnie Biggs. Yeah. Because every no and then, there would be discussion that there was going to be some extradition treaty with Brazil.

And obviously, he'd have been first on the plane. Yeah. But it never happened, did it? Are there still countries that operate in that way that have... that criminals will try and flee to with the hope that they won't be extrozyited. I suppose there must be some. Yeah. I'm trying to think of one off the...

It's supposed it depends on what your relations are with other... In any other context, someone asking me that would really worry me. What are the main countries that don't have extradition? Just out of interest. If someone had been heavily involved in the Hatt and Garden robbery and kept it quiet, a seemingly friendly podcast. Where Mighty Flee? So Ronnie Biggs in 2001, elderly and in poor health, he returned voluntary to the UK where he was arrested and jailed before being released on compassionate grounds in 2009 and then dying on the 18th December 2013.

So that was the Ronnie Bigg story. But in 1988, the film Buster starred Phil Collins as Buster Edwards and criticized for really softening the edges, playing Edwards as a conflicted, regretful. and a charming individual rather than part of a violent gang. But the soundtrack became absolutely iconic, two hearts, Loco and Acapulco, keep on running. Interesting footnote, when the premiere came around, Princess Charles and Princess Diana were planning to go to the premiere, but Phil Collins advised them not to go

because he said it was a bad look and really dealt with a violent crime and they should not be seen to celebrate it. very wise from Phil Collins' PR mind. Is Loco in Acapulco a train pun? Is that what they've chosen that? Oh, I never thought of it like that. Is that what it go with loco? It can't be, can it?

Locke, as in locomotion? That's all has never crossed my mind. No, that's just, I mean, having not seen the movie, I don't know. But there's a chance that that was some kind of subtle nodden wink to train travel. There are plenty of monuments to the Great Train Robbery in particular. Jack Mills, the driver and David Whitby, who was on board and tried to resist the robbers. They have a plaque commemorating their bravery,

and it's mounted at crew railway station. Next time you're at crew railway station, keep an eye out for it. The retrieved monopoly board that was used by the robbers at their Leather Slade Farm hideout and a genuine £5 note from the robbery are on display at the Thames Valley Police Museum in Berkshire.

Oh, that's interesting. The actual monopoly board they used. And then interesting, Just a footnote I love about this story, which is that on Friday the 16th of August, 1963, two people had taken a morning stroll in Dalking Woods, and they discovered a briefcase hold on a camel skin bag, containing money linked to the robberies

and money that had been left behind or disposed of. In total, the couple found just over £100,000 in the briefcase. And what did they do with it? They handed it in. They handed it in. They notified the police. Yeah, but if you've just seen a store, string of people getting life sentences or

30 sentences. I think I'm probably handing it in, aren't you? I found a pound at London Bridge Station yesterday on the floor and I kept it. I considered calling the police. I hope they throw away the key out. The Great Train Robbery 2026.

Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. I was surprised by that. Like a bag of cash. It's such an astronomical amount, isn't it? I'd like to know. I'd like to see the diagram of how much people hand in before they go, this is too much, I've gone.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So two and a half million pounds. Is that what they got in 1960? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's equivalent to 60 million pounds today. But it remains one of the most famous crimes in these British Isles.

Of course, 60 million pounds is now the equivalent to a peak ticket from London to Reading. Am I right? Anyone? Anyone having that? Is this thing on? The real great train robbery is every time I have to buy a buddy ticket. Yeah. Very nice. Lovely stuff.

Amazing. For me, it's how complicated, A, how horrific it is, obviously the violence, but B, all those stages and how complicated it is and just makes me realize how use, not that I've been tempted, but how useless I'd be at that. Just all those little things have to go perfectly right. And I don't feel I could relax even with all my money. No.

So I'd be sort of by the pool. Every time the phone went or the door went, I'd be thinking to myself, oh my God. So, you know, it doesn't sound like a chilled way to live because it's been constantly on the run for the rest of your life. Interestingly enough, like a lot of the robbers had to use, like a lot of the money they'd got in the crime, they had to use on lawyers to defend themselves in the trials.

It's one of the footnotes I read in this story. I think it's a strong argument they shouldn't be allowed to do that. I mean, it's a bit of a close thing, when you turn up with the best lawyers around and you're a carpenter. from South London, you're paying them from a massive sack of one of obsolete currency. Until the trial is over and the verdict has been announced, you don't know if they're guilty or not. Yeah, that's a good point as well. Wow, what remarkable story.

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They laid me down again while somebody fetched a stretcher. As soon as I knew that the bullet had gone clean through my neck, I took it for granted that I was done for. Wow. I'd never heard of a man or an animal getting a bullet through the middle of the neck and surviving it. Everything was very blurry. It must have been about two minutes during which I assumed that I was killed.

And that too was interesting. I mean, it's interesting to know what your thought would be at such a time. My first thought, conventionally enough, was for my wife. My second was a violent resentment at having to leave this world, which when all is said and done suits me so well. Oh, that's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah.

He then talks about his time in a Spanish hospital. Obviously there was a shortage of everything. There's a shortage of nurses and train nurses. And there's one nurse, she's a young girl. And she's been told that the soldiers needed feeding. So she's trying to force him to eat all these omelets. And he's like, I'd be the shot at the fucking neck. That's what I want to fuck to.

Scramble their gum on my left. Jesus. He lost his voice. How on earth did he survive that? Well, there's a bit at the end of the chapter where he says, every single doctor and nurse who sees me, every single one without fail would talk to me

about how lucky I was and I used to think to myself he would have been luckier if I hadn't been shot in the neck and he's, you know, wow, he makes a very good point. Now, the first part when it's a quiet corner

of a quiet front, it sounds horrendous. Right. And he's just so cold all the time and the lack of equipment like he's given, the gun he's given

a day from 80, And he's like, everyone's too far away from each other. So no one is within range. So everyone just, they just shoot aimlessly. We're not shooting. We're not killing anyone. It's just a waste of time. And this sums it up.

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