Oh What A Time... - #44 Weather (Part 2)

Episode Date: May 6, 2024

This is Part 2! For Part 1, check the feed from yesterday! This week we’re talking about unique weather events through history. From the great freeze of 1899 that plunged Miami to sub-zero temperatures, the great storm (in the UK) of 1987 (and how badly Michael Fish got it all BANG WRONG) and of course, the LONG-HOT-SUMMER-OF-NINETEEN-SEVENTY-SIX (which Elis’ parents WILL NOT STOP GOING ON ABOUT). Plus there’s even more Jeremy Bentham bantz. And if you want to get in touch with the show, you know what to do: [e-mail] And YES! You may have spotted a new numbering system. Well, we haven’t gone straight from episode #39 to episode #44 by accident (!), we have in fact retroactively applied episode numbers to old subscriber specials: #40 Heroes (OWAT: Full Timer Edition) #41 Gifts (OWAT: Full Timer Edition) #42 Sex, Drugs and Rock n Roll (OWAT: Full Timer Edition) #43 Protests (OWAT: Full Timer Edition) When informed of this, Tom Craine said he felt “absolutely no emotion whatsoever” - but nonetheless, there’s the explanation for those who need it. If you're impatient and want both parts in one lovely go next time plus a whole lot more(!), why not treat yourself and become an Oh What A Time: FULL TIMER? In exchange for your £4.99 per month to support the show, you'll get: - two bonus episodes every month! - ad-free listening - episodes a week ahead of everyone else - And first dibs on any live show tickets Subscriptions are available via AnotherSlice, Apple and Spotify. For all the links head to: ohwhatatime.com You can also follow us on:  X (formerly Twitter) at @ohwhatatimepod And Instagram at @ohwhatatimepod Aaannnd if you like it, why not drop us a review in your podcast app of choice? Thank you to Dan Evans for the artwork (idrawforfood.co.uk). Chris, Elis and Tom x Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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All right, so I'm going to tell you all about the Great Blizzard of 1899, specifically in the US. Now, you might be wondering just how cold can it get in Florida? That question was asked in February 1899, when an unexpected cold snap plunged the Mercury below zero across North America, from the Canadian Arctic to the northern fringes of the Sunshine State. The answer, how cold can it get in Florida, is minus two degrees Fahrenheit, which is the approximate equivalent of minus 19 degrees Celsius in Florida.

No. The only time on record that temperatures have gone below zero on the Fahrenheit scale anywhere in the state. Sorry, what's that in centigrade? Minus 19. I like that you gave it centigrade it's full name as opposed to yeah the coldest weather i've ever experienced actually is in america went to chicago at christmas a few years ago and the intense cold whipping down those

high building streets it's a real sort of like strength and bitterness of wind i hadn't really experienced before it's incredible it's quite annoying it just is i never think oh good it's windy today i had a like uncle go to chicago and i was like how was it he went oh so windy and i went yeah the windy city he went yeah it's a really windy city i mean no that's what they call it it's the windy city yeah yeah yeah it's really it's really windy city. No, that's what they call it. It's a windy city. Yeah, it's really a really windy city. I'd forget it. The other thing about wind, Ellis, if I have cars on the table, which I should know from school,

but I'm not completely sure where it comes from. I understand it's something to do with pressure or something, but I don't really know what it is. All right, that's a good point. I need to sort that out, but I don't really know what it is. It's a good point. I need to sort that out, but I don't really know what it is. And it's a big thing in life, isn't it?

I know what you mean. And I don't want to laugh at you for having said something silly because I don't really understand it. Like when you're watching a weather report and they're like, oh, low pressure, low pressure, high pressure. I don't know what's good. I don't know what's good.

Medium pressure? Is that what we're aiming for? Do you know what's really embarrassing? If one of my kids asks me what causes wind yeah I would just get angry

and talk about something else and I would say I asked you to brush your teeth not talk to me about wind and they would say we brushed our teeth two hours ago dad we're just

forget it I don't know actually yeah but that's the thing you'd say teeth two hours ago dad just forget it I don't know actually yeah but that's the thing you'd say oh it's to do with pressure and then your children would say so what do you mean by that and I would say that's where the

explanation ends exactly your dad's off cycling again it is the movement of air caused by the uneven heating of the earth by the sun and the earth's own rotation during the day air above land heats up faster than air above water and warm air above land expands and rises and heavier cooler air rushes in to take its place creating wind no i haven't googled that just go brush your teeth again even in miami which is known for sunbathing

things fell below zero on the Celsius scale, peaking at minus 1.7 degrees Celsius on the 14th of February, 1899. The Great Blizzard came at the end of a series of freezes that took place throughout the 1890s, bringing unusually cold temperatures and heavy snow to the southern United States. And I mean, it is cold, but it's quite a unique weather event. It's hard to have sympathy recording this in Britain, where it is almost always freezing. And the weather is appalling.

The only time, like I think the US would be plunged into sub-zero temperatures such as these, would be if I went on holiday there. That's the only time this is happening again. I appreciate it's a unique weather event. I mean, I live in london now which in comparison with wales is extraordinarily dry and i wouldn't say it's super super cold in the uk it's just wet yeah yeah it's like fucking hell okay i think the weather in general in

britain for people who don't live here it's just a bit meh yeah you just look out your window like it's annoying it's not like deeply cold and painful or anything like that it's just a bit a little bit unpleasant at all times that thin rain yeah I'm gonna have to unpack the get the stuff from the car but it's raining so I'll have to put my coat on every time I open the boot the car will get a bit wet yeah no we haven't got a a car, Paul, because it's not the 80s. So the cold snap in the US, the 1890s, it began in December 1894 when temperatures fell suddenly across northern Florida. Orlando thermometers registered minus 8 degrees Celsius.

Temperatures rose again in January 1895, but a second freeze in early February wreaked devastation on the citrus industry. Fruit literally froze on the vine and citrus trees split apart. Millions of oranges, recorded one newspaper, were unmarketable. Wow.

Another remarked, the freeze will go upon record as the mythical period in Florida's history. So it like, it decimated the Florida citrus industry. Up until December 189494 the citrus industry in florida had been booming you'd seen industrial production introduced which included

canning and automation even railway to the state five to six million boxes of fruit were being produced from the groves but production fell from 5 to 6 million boxes down to as little as 100,000 boxes of fruit. So it deaths at this cold snap was a big deal. As the Bradford County Telegraph wrote in late February 1895, the peach crop is gone and it was a considerable item. All the young and tender vegetables are killed and it seems rather late to plant again. As to the damage to orange trees, the consensus of opinion

that the trees are killed back to the ground or to the damage to orange trees, the consensus of opinion that the trees are killed back to the ground or to the trunk at any rate. It was like catching a man out in white duck trousers, summer shirt and a straw hat

in a freeze. It was more than the trees could stand. But that would ruin people's lives. Yeah. Because the cost of coffee has gone up

because there have been extreme weather events in producer countries. Yeah. Really? So a coffee, I mean, the really big coffee shops can absorb the cost. But the reason there have been extreme weather events in producer countries. Yeah. Really? I mean, the really big coffee shops can absorb the cost, but the reason coffee is now more expensive than it was two years ago is because coffee crops have been really badly affected by adverse weather.

At what price would coffee have to top out at, Al, for you not to buy your Americana? A coffee researcher listening to this going, £99, 99 pence. out at Elle for you not to buy your Americana. A coffee researcher listening to this going £99.99. Day one they've got up to £100 a cup. Obviously the coffee shops are empty and they're going, we're not going to get a customer. And then they see

you hove into view. Obviously this is, do you know what would be a great topic? Inflation. Yeah. Because I now pay prices for a pint at the age of 43 that 18-year-old me, even though 18-year-old me was doing history and politics A-level and knew about inflation, I just would have thought that someone would have stepped in.

Yeah. That must be some kind of post-apocalyptic world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Surely. A pint of lagers what if you go to i went on holiday to spain recently and a a pint of lager i think was around three euros 20 and i was like this is basically free yeah there's been some sort of mistake here. That's so funny. Can I posit a new use for the one-day time machine? Which is that you just basically go back to the 80s and drink beer. You'll just go to the local...

For a quid. Less than a quid. It's just used in a pot back for a pint. This is, we end up how it's going to get used. Just going back to have a nice pint of Carling Black Label for ATP. So, yeah, the industry's centre of production for the citrus fruit, which had been in the north near Jacksonville, not far from the border with Georgia,

eventually moved south towards the warmer climes of Orange County. Clues in the name. Some parts of northern Florida, based on this cold snap, entered a long period of decline, with orange growers migrating west to California instead. The Great Blizzard of 1899 exacerbated the agricultural problem in Florida, but its wider effects were felt in Sasquatchian, in the Canadian West through to Brooklyn

and on the Atlantic seaboard, and even cold on the island of Cuba, where there was said to be hard frost. At one point, it was colder in Charleston, South Carolina, than in either new york or boston beating local record set in 1788 in the south during this great blizzard of 1899 humans and animals suffered from the extreme cold as many as 100 people died including some in tragic circumstances including a woman who tried to find shelter in a hallway in oregon but froze to death all the same and reports

of hogs and cows freezing in the fields in wyoming almost 30 inches of snow lay on the ground and some small towns very nearly ran out of coal 30 inches you would just assume especially if you were religious there's something that god was angry with you yeah oh man yes that's the only conclusion you could reach unless you you really loved sledging, at which point you might think God's really happy with you. You love making snowmen. I've been a really good boy.

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You're aware of this summer, obviously. I don't remember it. Born in 1980. Feel like I remember it because my mum and dad talk about it every day. Every time anything vaguely hot happens. So, I don't know. You could be next to a kettle.

And they would go, God, you think that's hot? You should have been around during the long, hot summer of 1976. Any other examples? You're cooking that at what temperature? You think that's hot? You should have been around during the long, hot summer of 1976. You think the middle of a Pop-Tart's hot? You've got no idea.

1976. The people who were around at the time are so affected by the long hot summer of 1976. Yeah. The shadow of it looms large. It's clearly horrific. I mean, what's the most heat you've experienced? What's that sort of...

Can I just say that we're talking about 1976, a pre-Celero age, which is worth another four degrees. Yeah. They did have a Mr. Whippy. They had Whippy. They had that sort of ice cream, though, which can bring you down a little. In fairness, though, we've had a few summers in the UK over the last five or six years

that I think have actually pushed 1976 very close. There was one, maybe even last summer, where there was talk of 1976 came up because there were similarities. It's come up a few times. We had cracks appear in our house because we had a summer a couple of years ago where it was just dry every day for months. There was one day a couple of years ago where it was in London. It was over 38 degrees because I went to the shop to buy some bread

and immediately got a headache as soon as I left the house. I thought you were going to say, went to buy some bread, I came back with toast. That would have been nice. And I came back with hot bread. In 2018, when my son was born, it was so unbelievably hot in our flat that we had then. It was floor to ceiling

windows, like an old Georgian flat. It was so hot we had to have office fans running in all rooms. And buckets of ice. we were told by the midwives to put fill buckets with ice or sort of put ice in front of the fans basically to blow ice across the room it was the only way of making it bearable and there is something sort of claustrophobic and panicking about this sort of temperature so i can completely see why these

many years on that people still talk about this as an experience because extreme heat like that is it's stressful it is stressful now it's particularly interesting this summer of 76 because all subsequent heat waves in the uk have been measured against this unusual event yes so and it was considered unusual for a few reasons firstly because the dry spell had actually begun the previous summer so we're seeing this in a lot of these stories as you said there was a great storm l there was like loads of rainfall which made the the ground wet which meant the trees got ripped up as you were talking about yeah earlier in the show the situation here was there'd been unbelievable heat the previous summer

so the all the areas were well below their expected annual rainfall it was already very very dry it'd been really sort of difficult time already i'll take you through some of the stuff that happened in 75 alone for a start parts of the motorway in the midlands melted and were left deformed if you're running late do you think you're still risking that i've interest if you've got to go somewhere you're still going i'm going on the mumpy motorway yes let's have's have a look at the hottest, 10 hottest days in the UK. Number one, 2022. I remember that. It was because it was the first time

it tipped 40 degrees. Wow. Now the top 10, 2019, 03. I remember 03. I was doing my MA that year and I remember that heat wave. 22, 2020, 1990, 2015, 1911, 1990, 06. 76 comes in at number 13.

If you were only in 1976, get over it. Get over it. It was hot. Yes. I remember because it was hot last year or the year before and there was a lot of... It was about 76. But the thing I remember about it is that it wasn't just one hot day.

It was a very long period of heat. So this is exactly it, Chris. And this is what's particular about it. It basically started the previous summer, the heat wave, but the actual top, the prime heat in 76 was two months of unbroken roasting heat. That's what's difficult about it. This thing about the motorways melting very briefly

reminds me of one of the most difficult periods of my life, which is when my ex-girlfriend and i had a car had a little um i think it was like a fiat punto or something like that where the heater fans were stuck on at all times there was a problem in the system which meant the heater fans were always on at full blast and we couldn't afford to repair it we were both starting out as stand-ups we had no money money. So we used to drive around. Even in the heat of summer, you would have the heater fans blowing.

The best you could do would be to point them down into the footwell or up at the ceiling. That's all you could do. It was horrific. Every window down. Oh, God. Just horrible.

Driving to gigs, just like... I remember that car. Panic-inducing heat. I remember that car. Do you want to lift to the gig, Ellis? No, I would rather forward roll to the gig. I want to survive the day.

I had an old Austin Metro that would overheat so easily and a mechanic told me the only way to stop it overheating is to put your fans on full blast in the heat and it would kind of blow the cold air over an engine and stop the engine overheating. So I had a similar thing on a hot if it got really hot i knew the only way to save the car would be blast myself with extra heat oh my god yeah it's making me feel quite stressed i sold that car for

50 pounds 50 pounds too much 50 quid what half of what I'd pay for a cup of coffee? Or in today's terms, half a cup of coffee. So the motorways were mumpy, as I say. Theatres were complaining that audiences were down, so basically people weren't turning up to events because the heat was so bad. The final one, about 75, this is the previous year before the great heat,

this one actually made me quite proud to be British. Pubs across London and large parts of the UK ran out of beer. So that's the British reaction to this, isn't it? Everyone just goes out, just starts drinking their way through it. I did a gig during a heat wave at Up the Creek in Greenwich, which really is one of London's most iconic comedy clubs. And I turned up and the promoter said, we've soared out though.

It's going to be amazing. And the capacity of the creek is about 350. Maybe 100 people turned up. 250 people, I thought. Sub that. That's too hot. I'm staying in the pub. In fact, the brewery industry, I love this, Al, noticed in the summer of 75 as they put it created a lot

of new lager drinkers so this one hot summer basically create a new uh body of people who loved lager with sales of carling black label tenants and tuborg all going through the roof basically unprecedented levels of lager sales and when 1976 ticked around it became clear this pattern of heat was going to continue which is the last thing people needed even in early may the birmingham mail reported sweltering temperatures of 22 degrees celsius so that's early may okay by early june newspapers were encouraging children to put out water for the birds to drink by mid-june britain for whatever better phrase had gone completely bonkers okay um bristol reported an ice cream crisis that's how they

were describing it as supplies of the city ran low i mean i don't know how much of a crisis it is if you haven't got any ice cream i mean surely you can weather that unless you just promise your five-year-old one you find out there aren't any that is a crisis i suppose but apart from that that's also feeding the birds is that the main priority well i suppose it might you don't want to lose all your wildlife do you yeah but i suppose there were rivers running dry you'd think that you'd be trying to conserve water yeah that is true but birds have got little beaks they don't need much they don't need like a full pint yes good point just put out one point. I'd forgotten about their microbeaks. Tempers got... I'd forgotten about their microbeaks.

New T-shirt. I'll say it again. We've got a third T-shirt. Tempers got so frayed at Heathrow Airport, there was a mass walkout of staff. So basically staff said, I can't work in this heat. So they walked out.

Holidays were cancelled. And at Scunthorpe Hospital, operations were cancelled because operating theatresunthorpe Hospital, operations were cancelled because operating theatres were too hot to work in. Wow. I've been thinking about this. What people sometimes do when it's too hot to work is they sometimes go and work outside.

I'm imagining surgeons wheeling you out into the car park. They're going, we're going to do your appendix here. I'm sorry, it's just cooler. The other thing is people lose their temper in the heat. Yeah, absolutely. So it's going to be very bad for vibe isn't it yeah so the heat wave was even sufficient for the government to create a minister for drought that's what they created which sounds to me like a guy on a stag do he's been put in charge of keeping everyone's drinks topped up i'm the minister for drought he's got it written on the back of his t-shirt he's been put in charge of keeping everyone's drinks topped up. I'm the minister for drought. He's got it written on the

back of his t-shirt and he's going around doing it. It's a precarious job, that. It doesn't sound like a job for life, does it? Next time it rains, you're like, well, I'm sacked. God damn it! Going home, saying to your wife, brilliant news, I've got a great new job as the grey clouds collect above. Yeah, I do find rain stressful, actually.

We've overstretched ourselves on the mortgage. Michael Fish saying, we've got a letter from a lady who's worried her husband's going to lose his job when it rains. Well, it's not going to rain today. But to be fair, this new role was needed because things were just collapsing. Crop failure due to the heat led to a 12% increase in food prices. Crop failure due to the heat led to a 12% increase in food prices. An entire year's supply of strawberries and lettuces just burned up in the field. My son hates lettuce, by the way.

He'd love that. He'd insist we go down to watch them burn it. Sort of applauding that it happened. And most amazingly of all, formerly drowned villages like Derwent and Derbyshire appeared again. Wow. As reservoirs drained of their water so these are like um villages that disappeared as reservoirs had been built and water had flowed over them suddenly appeared again churches appeared houses and everything that you'd find there um so it was it was kind of an intense two years really but you think there must mean some good from all of this surely surely people's energy bills went down surely energy use went down that must be the one thing we can take

from the summer of 76 but no even that went up because of the increased reliance on refrigeration and fans so basically people are having to keep themselves cool so their bills went up so even at the time of extreme heat there was no solace there so that is that's that's the that's the summer of 76 it feels i think that's too much for me it's you you there have been hotter days but it's that it's that two months of intense heat yeah i'm aware we have quite a few australian listeners we do get emails i'm sure a lot of them are listening at the moment going what the hell are you moaning about well it's funny though it's also it's a different kind of heat i was i i did a lot of gigs in aust at the moment going, what the hell are you moaning about? Well, it's funny though. It's also, it's a different kind of heat.

I was, I did a lot of gigs in Australia and I remember walking to the supermarket and in Adelaide during the summer and they had the temperature outside and it was 38 degrees, which was a temperature I'd not experienced at that point. And 38 in London is so different to 38 in Adelaide because of the humidity and the kind of heat it is.

And I think the summer of 95, that was a really hot one. I think that might have been even drier than 76. But there's something about 76 that just seems to stick in the public consciousness. Because we have had hot... Summer of 2018 was a very hot one. Because I remember writing... I was writing a book in 2018 and it was

I mean first world problems it was really difficult to concentrate so my publisher was like we need this chapter I was like yeah it's just you know I haven't got any clothes on

and I still can't do it so can you dripping onto your laptop I think very briefly the the other thing, Al, is that our houses aren't built to deal with this heat. That's the crucial thing as well. They're also not built to deal with extreme cold. Yeah.

In conclusion, why are we living here? All right, that's it for this week. Hope you've enjoyed that. A trip down memory lane, memory weather lane, something like that. Brilliant stuff. We've got a brand new subscriber offering. Two bonus episodes per month we explained it last week so instead of having a fourth part in every episode you're going to get two bonus

episodes every month but if you want to go back and listen to all the old fourth parts in one mega episode that's now up there for you to enjoy and excitingly chris each week 10 subscribers are going to come back on the one day time machine with me. Oh, great. Isn't that great? So should we go on our first? This is a brand new benefit. So exciting. Yeah, absolutely. Should we tell you where I'm taking our Oh What A Time full timers this week

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Okay, so it's true. This week, I've taken 10 of our Oh What A Time Full Timers back to ancient Rome to watch the gladiators. Quite exciting.

It's a good one, isn't it? Yeah. Some of our favourite places in ancient Rome. They could handle a long hot summer of 1976. The long hot century is known no about that it's just fine just deal with it so i let michael mclaughlin of course drive the one day time machine as he kept

saying he could be he could have been an f1 driver uh then he stalled the thing four times for getting it going it's a little bit embarrassing uh amanda trickus she really enjoyed all the bendy clocks who were flying past in the portal of course love that she'd forgotten to charge her iphone couldn't take any photos though the journey however it took 48 seconds which fittingly you'll know this ellis it's exactly the same length of the theme tune to the television show gladiators you know that it is so chris duffy stuck that on and taught us some really fun dance moves to go with it and we landed with a heavy bump outside the coliseum which at that point of course was brand

new yes the tumble down shit in 2024 which is not my words the words of karen baker that's what she said not the tumble down shit pit is in 2024 but a little bit fruity but we let it go uh then we queued to get in uh wyatt mills was excited, he ate his ticket on the way in, which is embarrassing. But luckily I had a spare because I'm a great host. But we couldn't believe our seats, Ellis. We couldn't believe our seats. Really close to the action.

So close, in fact, that Dan Horsman lost an ear trying to high-five one of the lions. It was horrible. But Simon Wimp was good enough to leap over the barrier and retrieve it for him there you are I said to him Wimp by name

not by nature and he said yeah I've heard that a lot in the excitement Natasha Landy yelled out are you not entertained which of course

is a quote from Gladiator but sadly for Natasha that movie wouldn't exist for another 2000 years which is played for nothing got nothing

it's quite awkward got nothing in the Coliseum it did however get the attention of the emperor titus who pointed down at us from the royal box and ordered that myself and george burton pay for this insolence by fighting to the death it's a big one isn't it nice one nicky cheers for that nicky yeah so we shuffled out into the middle of the arena george was bricking it i was sort of weirdly chilled it was fine i didn't i wasn't that bothered uh george chose a three-pronged trident as his weapon good choice i would say can we not submit like tap out like yeah well it's just me seems a bit much it's just me against george i rather arrogantly i was really a bit confident i just said i'll

just go unarmed so he took the trident went unarmed. But just as we were approaching each other, Christina Sheehy had a brainwave and started belting out the theme tune to Gladiators. Remember that? Remember that? And we immediately knew what to do, immediately busting out the moves that Chris Duffy had taught us on the journey over.

Before we knew it, guys, the whole stadium were doing the moves with us, including the emperor. It was absolute bedlam. People couldn't believe it. They were having so much fun, at which point we just snuck out, back in the one day time machine michael mclaughlin stored it another three times we headed home and that was it all in all a great day with

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