Oh What A Time... - #60 Pick n Mix (Part 1)

Episode Date: August 4, 2024

This week on the show we’ve got a selection of historical yarns to share; the great British supermarket baked bean war of the 90s, how Sweden swapped sides of the road in the 60s, and the many incredible instances where entertainers took percentages of profits instead of a one off payment (and the infamous occasions where they didn’t). And this week we’ve been mainly discussing the oft-repeated rumour that cinemas make the bulk of their profit not from showing films, but from selling sweets and popcorn. If you suspect that is poppycock and can prove otherwise, please do get in touch with the show: [e-mail] If you're impatient and want both parts in one lovely go next time plus a whole lot more(!), why not treat yourself and become an Oh What A Time: FULL TIMER? In exchange for your £4.99 per month to support the show, you'll get: - two bonus episodes every month! - ad-free listening - episodes a week ahead of everyone else - And first dibs on any live show tickets Subscriptions are available via AnotherSlice, Apple and Spotify. For all the links head to: ohwhatatime.com You can also follow us on:  X (formerly Twitter) at @ohwhatatimepod And Instagram at @ohwhatatimepod Aaannnd if you like it, why not drop us a review in your podcast app of choice? Thank you to Dan Evans for the artwork (idrawforfood.co.uk). Chris, Elis and Tom x Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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petrol station. It was like, that smell. What is the smell of your own video covers or something like that? Yeah, yeah. And so it's quite nostalgic was it's the smell, it's the smell, it's the smell, it's the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same the same same the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same the same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's their. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the. It's the. It's the. It's the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the same. the same. the same. the same. the. the. the smell of your own video shop? I think it's like plasticy video covers or something like that. Yeah, yeah, and so it was quite nostalgic. Was it a nice, was it a nice smell? Oh, it's lovely. If I closed in my eyes I was back, I was back. I was back, I was back in the video shop in the 90s. And you thought to yourself, it's coming home. It's coming home for three days. I hope I'm not late because I want to get quite a fine. I'm Chris Scull. I'm Ellis James. And I am Tom Crane.

And each week on this show we'll be looking at a brand new historical subject. Can you believe it? And today we're going to be discussing, well, it just says pick and mix here, which doesn't actually, that sounds like it's an hour on confectionery, but that's not what we mean th th th the about those phone prawns. You've got foam bananas and white chocolate mice. I'll be explaining why you need to re-borge your house before buying affectionary at a cinema. I didn't possible to spend less than 15 grand. And I'll be discussing tou-took to kake. If you heard this rumor, you must have heard this rumor, which I do not believe, which is that The the commercial the commercial the commercial the commercial the commercial the commercial the commercial the commercial the commercial the commercial the commercial the commercial that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that? that's that's that. that. that. that. that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I'll that. I, that. I, that. I, that. I, that. I, that. I, that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. do not believe, which is that the commercial

model of cinemas is not the films and the ticket prices to get you in. They'd make no money off you buying a ticket to go see a film. All the money cinema makes is in the pick and mix. Have you heard this? That can't. It's not true. You ever heard that? Why would they have just set. that? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, that, that, that, the the the that, that, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the, the the the, the, the, the, the thi.... thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. togu. togu. togu. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. feels like such a roundabout way to sell to sell sweet. Hollywood is a lie. Hollywood's in the pocket of big sweet. I'm not sure about that. There is a zero percent chance that's correct. Imagine

telling you Jackman you do realize that if if the good people of Britain didn't like cola bottles you be out of a bloody job man. Yeah absolutely. What astronomical costs of building those huge screens and the huge buildings and all the seats and everything. And the absurd creative endeavor. The infrastructure. The writers, crew, actors. Yeah, Woolworths went bust and it was basically just pick and mix. Yes, that's a good point. Woolworths would be Amazon, wouldn't it? I'm not looking to offend you, Chris, but I think that's the most wrong anyone's ever been.

Right, I should explain. Pick and mix actually mean today's episode, we're looking at three disparate but really fun subjects. We've done this once before and it felt like a really fun way of approaching history. Just grab three fun subjects and see what we can find out. So this week, what are we finding out about that? We are discussing the British supermarket wars, Sweden swapping sides and people who did dollar percentage deals. Interesting. Before we get into that though, should we crack into a bit of correspondence? Let's do it. Let's do it. Okay, Stuart Jackson has been in contact with the email header, Smello Vision. Listeners may remember, I talked about the weird phenomenon of Smellow Vision, which was

basically a scratch and sniff thing most known for comic relief in the 90s. You'd watch telly, they'd tell you at what point to scratch your scratch and sniffs card, you'd smell whatever was on the tele. Stuart goes on to say, Hi guys, love the pod and would go lips a teet with it if I could. The nice early laugh at Stuart there, that's great. Very efficient writing. The discussion about Smellovision has reminded me of a time when I installed an isolated version of this technology at Disney World Epcot Center in the late 90s. They had an experience called which the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho- tho-s, th thi thi-s, tho-s, tho, tho, thi, thi, thiolat, and would thi, and would tho, and would tho, and would tho, and would tho, and would th th th th th, and would th, and would th, and would th, and would th, and would th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th their thi thi thi the the the theat their theat their theat their their their theat their their theat World's Epcot Centre in the late 90s. They had an experience called O Canada, which was a 360-degree film shown inside a dome. In it, the camera was flown over various Canadian attractions and landmarks, your rivers, your harbours, whatever else they have.

And at one point it flew quite low over some farmland. Worth mentioning here that I was nine at the time and it gorged on yet another all you can eat breakfast earlier in the day. Whilst everyone was admiring the cows and pigs on the screen, I let out a fart. The smell was instant and foul. After a brief moment of uh-oh, I heard a nearby man say something along the lines of, oh wow, that's brilliant, you can really smell it. I often wonder if he ever questioned why the only smell they pumped in during the whole film was an overbearing sewage.

My mum knew what had happened of course. Of course she did. And ever since then, a bad fire has been referred to in our house as an O Canada. Thanks, Stu. There you go. It's a fun little fart story from Stuart Jackson. Thank you for that. Oh wow, you can really smell it.

I think they'd, it's hard to put into words how funny I'd find hearing someone saying that after I'd blown off. Blown off. Also, if you're in the Smellervision game and you were asked, you were charged with coming up with a sewage smell, you'd take the edge off it, wouldn't you? Yeah, you would. You wouldn't go full bore. You'd soften it a bit, I mean. You're right. You would soften. It would be more of a gesture towards sewage rather than going the whole hog. The idea of the smell of vision person rolling their sleeves up. Right, let's make this as disgusting as possible.

You know, I reckon if I was running a smell of vision and they said, okay, these are you're gonna need like summer's meadow I know fresh strawberries freshly cut grass excrement I would look at that list and I'd go excrement is the easiest smell to get there yeah yeah right it's the least challenging isn't it the thing with strawberries right an open pannet of strawberries will smell like farts in the fridge oh oh why is it's just laying the groundwork so they went when to go the the the the the the the the the the the to go to go the to go to go the to go the the to to to the to the to the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their s. I'm their. I'm their. I'm their. I's their. I's the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I's the. I'll the. I'm just just just just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. trea. trea. I's. trea. I's. I's. I's. I'm just. I's just. I's why is it? Yeah. Ellis is just laying the groundwork so that when we go through smell of it just in my, he's got an excuse as to why everything stinks and farts. I can also guarantee Chris that is, that is, that's an excuse that Ellis has given to Izzy in the fridge. Oh that's just, there's an

open punit strawberries in the fridge. But the fridge is shut, Ellis. Yeah, it's very powerful. Open 500 strawberries, it'll get through steel. It's double plummet actually, so yeah. Stuart Jackson, thank you for getting in contact. That really, really made us laugh. What a fun story that is, if any of the rest of you want to get in contact with the show, let's chuck in some one day time machines, let's talk about some famous relatives from the past, any mad things that happened to you related to the show. Or anything on the business models of cinemas. Oh yes, and crucially anything on the business models of cinemas. Here's how you get in contact.

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I will be discussing Sweden, swapping from driving on the left to the right. And I'll be telling you all about people in the entertainment industry who took percentage deals rather than like single fees and got astronomical earnings or otherwise. Going to begin back in the 1970s with a little actor called Alec Guinness. Oh yes, yes, yes. This is one of the many classic examples of this thing. So he was not excited about starring in Star Wars. And there's lots, you hear lots of this, that no one really expected Star Wars to be the massive hit that it became. So he'd been a serious actor of stage and screen for decades.

It appeared in everything from great expectations through to Dr. Chivago, and a string of Ealing comedies. But $150,000 paycheck, more than $750,000 today was ample reward enough for modest screen time time to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me..00,000.00,000.00,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, thiole. thiole. thiole. thiolk,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00,000.00,000.00,000.00,000.00,000.00, thii,000 today, was ample reward enough for modest screen time of 20 minutes. That's what he was offered, but Guinness's qualms about the project of Star Wars led him to negotiate a better deal. He wanted the money, so the $150,000, his fee, plus a percentage of the profits. He asked for and got 2%

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By the time he died, Alex Guinness, the percentage deal he had negotiated had brought him nearly $100 million dollars. For 20 minutes of screen time. It's actually almost hard to explain how huge Star Wars has been. So I was born in 1980, so I think the Empire Strikes Back came out in 1980. Three years after the first one. I'm not a big Star Wars fan, as someone who's a little kid in the 80s, Star Wars figures were everywhere. Yes. Everyone had them. So if he was making money off them, also that was repeated globally. Yep. That is mad. Also the the the the three the three the the three the three the th. T th. T th. T th. T th. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. So th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. the. the. the. th. th. the. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. off them, also that was repeated globally. Yeah, that is mad. Also, the three of us, you know, got agents. That is the thing that

I think anxious comedians and actors have got agents worry about, should I take a percentage? Because history is littered with people who were paid buyouts that seemed relatively decent at the time. But time has proven that if they take it even a tiny percentage, they would have made an absolute fortune. That's the kind of thing you're worried about. Absolutely. And actually, Ellis, in the world, because I'm a writer predominantly, a comedy writer, there's been a shift in the way that writers have paid, whereas companies now like Netflix and the big places want to pay, will only pay a lump sum. There is no back end anymore. So if something proved to be really successful,

they're on no residuals, that has completely died away. And actually for a writer, it's quite an important thing because that would continue to pay if something blew up, it meant that. It meant, if something blew up, it meant that the person who made it would also benefit. Yes. But the person, it, it, it, it, it, the person, the person, the person, the person, the person, the the person, the the the the the the the person, the person, the the person, the person, the person, the person, the person, the person, the person, the person, the person, th. the person, th. th. thi, if th. th. th. th. th. If, if th. If, if something, if something, if something, if something, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. If, th. If, if th. If, if th. If, if th. If, if th. If, if something, if something, th. thi. thi. thi. the. throoooooooooooooooooooo, the. the. the. the. the. th no matter what happens that's I think because of people like Alec Guinness yeah he took a hundred and twenty million or one for twenty cheers Alec Guinness he basically ruined it for everyone else so someone who had a decision to make whether to take the one-off fee or the percentage deal and I think this would have destroyed my life the decision the next guy makes have destroyed my life the decision the next guy makes. Veteran film and television actor Vincent Price. Remember Vincent Price? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's approached by Michael Jackson says, I'd like you to do some voice overwork for a song on my new album. Vincent Price says yes. He worked with Alice Cooper in the mid-70s. He was offered two options for payment. He got an industry, a flat fee, industry buy out of the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, the th, the th, the th, the th, the the th, the the, the the, the the, the, thi, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, a flat fee, industry buyout of $20,000 or he was offered a percentage of the profits. He took the $20,000. The song was thought to be something of a novelty track and was like disregarded as a single release. No one imagined it would be a success.

One record of executives said at the time, who wants a song about monsters? From Price's point of view, $20,000 for a few hours work. It was not a the the the time, who wants a song about monsters? From Price's point of view, $20,000 for a few hours work. It was not a bad deal. It was a monster mash, wasn't it? Yeah, I know the one. It was a playground smash. Painful. We're also good at it. Vincent Price turned up. He did his lines. Did a couple of takes, walked away. On the tapes of the recording sessions, you can actually hear him going, I've had a lot of fun doing this. He said, he said exactly that in the booth.

I hope this doesn't come back to bite me in the ass. He's wandering away from the mic. It went on to be one of the most defining pop moments of the 80s. of the 80s. It was of course thriller. The album sold 32 million copies in 1983 alone. It's since gone on to sell about 70 million copies. Price turned down the percentage cut on that. But I mean it's impossible to speculate exactly how much it would have earned him, but significantly more than the $20,000. Yeah. I mean, if you say, if it's selling $70 million, we're talking hundreds, it's probably generated

hundreds of millions in revenue. So even a 1% is big money. But there's brilliant. There's like, Vincent Price was asked about this multiple times. the times for his career. And one time he said, I got none of it, I was on one of the biggest hits of the 80s, I got none of it, I'm not bitter, mind you, I'm not bitter, it just hurts, hurts right here and he jabs his left pocket where his wallet is. That's good dinner party, that's a funny business at a house party. It's the best anecdote, you'll hear at a dinner party. Yeah, completely. the most famous example, that that that that that that that that that that that that's, that's, that's, that's, to to to to to to to to to to to that's, thi. I thi. I thi. I' thi. I'm, th. th. thi. thi. that. that. their, their, their, I'm not, I'm their, I'm, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I. I's, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's, I. I. I's, th. It. It's, th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's t. It's t. It's t. t. t. t. It's not t. t. t. t. t. t. to. It's to. It's to. It listen to thriller. Yeah. The most famous example though I would say of a dollar percentage on them for a movie, any guesses? Well I would have I would have said Star Wars. I would have I would have said

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No one knows exactly, you've not been able to find anyone who's prepared to give an exact figure of what that percentage was, but there's a lot of consensus around how much he actually earned. His total combined earnings for appearing in Batman were around $90 million, which adjusted for inflation is $194 million, which is among the most anyone has been paid for a movie. Wow. Yeah.

But I, 89, the first time they were the first Batman movie with Michael Keaton. I was nine. It was to my memory the first time they introduced in the UK the 12 certificate. Yes. Because at that point they were gone from PG to my memory the first time they introduced in the UK the 12 certificates. Yes. Because at that point they had gone from PG to 15. There were new stories about there being sort of, you know, measurement charts in cinemas. So you had to be a certain height to prove that you were 12. Really?

It all friend was over the limit and he could get in. And it was, it was marketing mad. I remember you could buy Batman the gum and all that kind of stuff. Because obviously prior to that, it had been the Adam West Bert Ward Batman in the 60s, which was quite camp, but was still been repeated on tele. And Michael Keatons was much darker, wasn't it?

So it was a much more kind of realistic, more critically acclaimed version. And people went mad for Batman. It's years and years. So if you were getting back in money off the back of Batman merch, you'd have been making an absolute fortune. Yeah. Yeah, I had all the toys. I had the jockmobiles as well. It's weird like the Rembrands who did the music for Friends, you know, I'll be there. I'll be there for the music for friends. That was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the. the. they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. theat theat theat theat theat theeee. theeee. they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they be there for you. That was, that had already been, according to my memory, this could be wrong, this might be one for, oh what, shame, corrections corner, that had

already been released, and then it was chosen to be the Friends theme music. And they were like, it kind of killed our cool, because we were so associated with friends. We couldn't really stand out as a sort of credible indie band. Yeah. Because, ever was a they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they were they were they were they were they were they were they they were they were that that that that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that that that that that that that that that that that that that they were, they were, they were, they were, they were th. That they were th. That th. That th. That th. That that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that, that was shouting Ross and Rachel at us at the gigs. That deal, they must have done, like, but in a way, in a way, that is money for life, isn't it? Because surely they're getting paid every time. Friends are shown anywhere in the world. Yeah. Because I read an interview them, they said they went from doing cool clubs to doing like matinees where parents would bring their kids just to hear their friends song. So it sort of broke up the band in this piece I read, he was in The Guardian

and he said, years ago and he said, yeah, I put my kids through college that song. Because the thing the friends is it is on somewhere in the world constantly 24 hours a day. That's a bit understanding it put my kids through college. You could probably build a day. That's a bit understanding it. It put my kids through college. You could probably build a college. Like surely. Yeah, my kids went through through their own university that I built. And I lecture that. It was very weird university. I've got one more point to make about this that is related to what Tom was saying a few minutes ago. This is from Sean Nelson, who was the frontman, the Seattle band Harvey Danger, whose song

song Fletcher became the Peep Show theme tune. So if you've ever seen Peep Show, you'll know this song. The money bands make for licensing songs to TV in the States is still very good, but back then it was absurdly good. I always joke that when you license your song to a US network, you get to buy a house. When you license it to Channel 4, you get to buy one nice dinner per year. Many still comes in, it's not enough to live on just a nice little treat every three months. That's so great. So, that's that for part one. In part two tomorrow of our pick-and-mix episode we'll be talking about the baked bean wars that rocked the supermarket world of Britain in the early 90s.

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