Omnichannel - Unlocking Content Resonance: 5 Content Mistakes & Solutions with Iasmina & Domi
Episode Date: December 14, 2023Send us a textHave you ever wondered why your content isn't resonating with your ideal clients?Today we are discussing the 5 most common content mistakes online service providers & coaches ma...ke.Today's enlightening episode might just be the key to unlock that mystery. Joined by the insightful Iasmina, we delve into the communication pitfalls that could be sabotaging your reach, such as vague language and industry jargon. It's all about making your message as accessible and appealing as possible to your target audience. Venturing deeper into the realm of content creation, we discuss the art of making your content unique without falling into the trap of reinventing the wheel. It's about adding your personal spin and speaking directly to the clients who are ripe for investing in your services. Plus, we share some great tips on how to communicate with your clients effectively, understanding their needs on a deeper level, and delivering tangible results that change lives.Get a FREE Copy of the High Converting Online Events Book: https://book.dominikalegrand.com/
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into the mistakes this is the fun part no it's been so fun and so far so okay we piled um a
couple of mistakes piled compiled a couple of mistakes with jasmina that we think that we see
often and by the way this is not to dish or judge anyone okay we all been there we we we have we
haven't had the knowledge or the awareness before so I just don't want anyone to listen to this and feel like we're judging anyone.
We are not.
We just want to bring forward and shed some light in a loving way to some of the mistakes that we see.
And then maybe help you guys to walk through them and find a better way to express yourself.
So, Yasmina, what is the first mistake that you see often
in the content space? So, the first mistake is actually one that everyone hears about,
is having this fluffy, real, non-tangible language and not being specific exactly what do you mean with something. So when you go into stories or anything or teaching something that you are doing,
it's very important not to start talking in a way that only people in your industry would understand
or only people who are close to you would understand it
because you are trying to attract new clients new leads new people
that are going to connect with your offer and with what you are doing so you need to make sure that
your language is not very fluffy and it makes sense to everyone um i i love when you say fluffy i wonder what she means by fluffy um but uh it's so true and i think
i i would i would dissect this to a couple of directions i think we can go into fluffy
and say fluffy as in um using words that don't mean anything i think we all read those posts
where we are just unleash unlock your
destiny blah blah and you know like all those words that are just like what did i just read like
there's no essence i can't capture anything it's just fluff right that's what i think there is
fluffiness and the other fluffy is the is the is the language of the industry, you know, the marketing terms like leads capture, as you know, CP, I
don't know, my IPC ABC, did you know, like all the things that
the the industry is using, like, oh, here's my offer, you know,
instead of saying, Hey, here's an opportunity for you to work
with me. Well, do you understand, like, even with you say, like, Oh, create your offer or versus hey, here's an opportunity for you to work with me. Do you understand?
Like, even if you say like, oh, create your offer or versus here, here's an opportunity for you to work with me.
Like, how different does that sound for people?
Like, this is what I offer versus, hey, that's how you can, we can work together. You know, like all the things that kind of we are taught in the industry and kind of using that.
I think that's where I see fluff.
And I see fluff in like, you don't make any sense.
This doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah, exactly.
It's that part where we use words that have so many meanings
and that are overused.
It's that fluffy side.
And the other side is where we use this expert language
that will, as I said, will make sense to somebody who is in the same industry with you.
It makes sense for people that are already working with you.
So for the other people that you want to attract,
you need to explain what does it mean, a lead, what's a funnel,
what's something, because it's going to be really,
it's going to sound good to you because it makes sense when you know everything, all the information behind what's a funnel or what's lead or so on.
But it's not going to make sense to the people you want to attract.
So always make sure to explain those terms.
Yeah, I think that has to be, like you said, everyone is on different stages of connecting with you or buying from you, right?
So like you said, the stage that you already educated, maybe they read the post when you explain what a lead is, right?
Or maybe they read the post when you explain about market awareness or whatever, right?
So maybe they read it, but maybe they didn't.
And then if they didn't.
And then if they didn't, they can still be a client one day. And then you just literally talk about, you know, whatever acquisition channel.
I don't know, just like terms that are fluffy in your wording.
That would make no sense for people that are not in the industry.
I think why this happens is that, first of all,
if you are in the industry, it's like second nature to speak that way.
I think that's the first thing.
The second thing is like, it's a bit of like a show-offy thing.
I don't know if that's like, look at me, I'm so smart.
Like ICP, you know, ABC, like whatever.
It's just like using all the terms.
Like, see, I know my shit.
I know what the lead is like
i speak in terms and like you know i think that's a bit of an ego play of like hey look at me i'm so
smart i'm using all these terms and then a little bit of like oh i'm in the market and for me it's
second nature i think either or it's playing into the fluffiness of this kind of lingo i think it it comes somehow um we all do these mistakes once
in a while because i catch myself using expert language and i'm like okay this this is not
the right way and i think sometimes uh people are trying to build this authority and to show up as
an expert and to show up like look i'm I'm good at what I'm doing. I know
what I'm doing. But that's usually for you to showcase your work and what you are doing and
your years of experience, your certifications and so on. But actually, it's not going to
position yourself as an authority in front of the ideal clients because they are not going to position yourself as an authority in front of the ideal clients because they are
not going to understand and authority comes from another side of your content not from the
expert language and your complicated terms and I really had somebody who told me like
my clients are smart and I was like we all have smart clients. Like, where is this coming from?
Because it's not about being smart.
It's about the fact that you are on the internet and people have less than eight seconds to read your content.
And if it takes me too much time, too much energy to go through everything and to try to understand what you are saying i'm not going to stay there so it's better
to be smarter with your content that assuming that people are smart and they are going to
understand it's not about that it's just about the fact that you want to make everything as
easy as possible for everyone yeah and you know what That's really hard to do, like to make it simple and make it easy.
And when you said it,
like the people that are in your industry,
they will understand you.
So unless you're selling to your own industry,
then it's fine.
You can go ham with the terms, right?
But if you're not selling to your industry,
if you're selling to clients, if you're selling to you know clients if you're
selling to others you know business owners that are not in a marketing industry then of course
you have to be simplifying things okay yeah and also you mentioned before that you need to create
content for somebody who already saw your previous post and for somebody who is new to your page
i think this is the part where you really need to pay more attention
and to make sure that you include everyone in your content.
And this is even more challenging than having this part of avoiding the expert language
or terms that are going to make you sound fluffy.
So making sure that your content speaks also to your existing audience to the people you have right now on your page,
but also will bring new people is going to be it's going to
stretch your skills a little bit in the beginning until you
learn okay, and you get the feeling in the data. Okay, this
works for both audiences. And I see I get new clients and I also sign new consistent clients every month.
And this is a sign for me that I get to these both types of people at the same time.
But again, it takes time.
It takes practice.
It takes also strategy and also intuition.
So it's very important to have both.
Yeah, exactly.
What are the things that we are seeing as far as mistakes go?
If you can go.
So another one that is really connected.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah.
So another mistake that is really connected to the previous one of being
fluffy and having
this expert language is being creative.
And I think because again, we have this desire to be seen as unique in the online space.
We start with a lot of creative names, a lot of creative directions, explaining in a more
unique and never seen or never heard way what we
are doing and actually it's not about being creative as much as it's about being clever
and having clarity in your message because people are not buying creativity they are buying at the
end of the day a transformation you offer and And first of all, your main purpose is to make sure that people understand the transformation they get.
So I remember we talked about over DMs and you also told me about the offer.
Oh, it sounds like any other offer.
Yeah, and I agree because it is.
Again, we cannot invent certain things. And you need to be okay with the fact that you cannot invent like marketing or mindset.
These terms and these concepts are out there for years and years.
But what you can bring unique is your personality, your take on marketing,
your experience on marketing, on clients and so on.
So it's very important to be clear rather than being creative.
I love, love, love everything you just said. And I had a conversation about this with one of my
friends as well yesterday. It's in the air. So that's why we're talking about it. It's coming to everyone's head.
But when you said, like, there is a need for a lot of people to be unique, right? And it's borderline on the artistic and it's borderline on the inventing something that, you know, that is completely new and the marketplace hasn't heard of it just yet. And I think, I love that you pointed that out
because if you look back to what all the gurus
are talking about, you know, like philosophical things,
you know, like we had before Christ,
like already people writing books about the truth of life.
And we have just been having remixing it and then regurgitating it.
And then it's been already there.
It's like the basic things in life, right?
So there is invention coming, but it's so rare.
And there are great minds that they come up with completely new things,
especially I can give you examples in psychology.
There are great minds.
They're coming with some new take that is shaking up the whole industry, but it's rare,
but it's rare.
And even so, when they shake up the industry, it's always, they're always ahead of their
time, right?
So being ahead of your time and coming up with something that is just,
okay, it's revolutionary,
but they don't, they're not there yet.
They don't get it.
Like maybe I need 10 years.
So people that, okay,
I've been saying this for 10 years, you guys,
but then in that time for 10 years,
people won't get it, you know?
So I love when you said like,
we don't have to reinvent the wheel, okay?
What makes our content unique is us.
Okay.
It's the filtering that it goes through.
Like you said, like instead of just saying, you know, these great terms, like, okay, here's a concept.
And when I use it with my clients and with my life, here's what happened.
And here's why I think it's great.
You know, do you almost like you're filtering the water through a filtering machine,
but it's you are the filtering machine.
You know,
the information is there.
I'm going to put it through the filter.
Like you,
it's going to go through me.
I'm going to test this.
I'm going to see how that works with me,
the clients,
my experience.
And then here's my take on it so we always can't
put our own spin on it like you said and that becomes ours you know that's unique to us exactly
so i couldn't agree more with everything you just said because it's so true and we spend so much
energy and time on trying to be creative on trying to come up with a unique name for
the program or anything, when in reality, your program or your service needs to reflect
actually what you are doing, what's the transformation that you are offering for people.
So it's very important to make that more clear if you are not a really super creative person or really somebody who comes with
these super unique concepts as you said which it happens there are people doing this but i know
that a lot of people are not into that area and especially when it comes to marketing because
this is super close to marketing a lot of people are focused so much on
serving their clients and you know this i know you are in the same uh category as i am because
i'm so focused on serving my clients every single day and making sure that they succeed and so on
that i don't have time and i don't have energy and I don't want to try to reinvent the wheel for something that is not going to make sense anyway.
So it's very important to know where you should stop because, of course, you don't want to make your program sound like I offer marketing.
That doesn't make sense.
Anything is not communicating in a way that's going to create a little bit of curiosity
but also i'm not coming with something that you never heard about it because it is going to
make people put a lot of questions and when something creates that type of thinking of
going okay what does it mean or what do you mean through this and that? No, people stop there,
and they are not going to ask you the questions. Because I know there are other people who say,
oh, okay, if somebody really wants to know what I'm doing, or what I mean with this name,
they should ask me. No, people are not going to ask you. And this is the internet. And this is
how it works. And we need to accept this yeah exactly i'm 100 on you with that
um so guys cut black cut back on the fluffy uniqueness of your programs you can still make
it yours by applying you in the framework in between and your experience that's how you make
it unique and i think um until you guys are like inventors which is again rare
um you will be ahead of your time and you will be probably just like why is this not working
why is it not selling so i love that you said that what else do we see in the industry
so as a mistake when it comes to content and I think everyone wants to put content out there into attract clients,
is the fact that many people attract clients who can't afford them.
Or it seems like their clients can't see them or they get engagement or nothing happens on the sales part.
And this is because often people speak to the version of their ideal clients that
are not going to take action, that are going to stay forever in that place where nothing works,
nothing makes sense. I don't know how I'm going to get out of this. So that's a mistake when
you speak to the current situation of your ideal clients, which is not good because that's why they want to work with you to change that.
And you stop there.
But you need just to acknowledge the fact that, OK, I understand you are in this state.
I understand it's hard to stand out on social media, on the Internet.
I understand it's hard to have essence to your message and so on.
And to be on social media, especially where everyone is on social media,
I acknowledge that.
But I'm also coming in front of you to tell you that you have an opportunity
to change that, right?
And you can be the one that is seen by their ideal clients who gets a lot of new paid
and consistent clients through their content so when I speak to the empower side of my ideal
client that's going to make them actually book a call send me at the end or work with me but if I speak to the
client that doesn't see any way of getting paid clients of making their
business work doesn't matter how good you are basically they are not going to
work with you they are going to be all over your page all the time, saying, Oh, thank you for this content. I hope I'm going
to change my life because this and this and this. They try to
show you why they are in that situation even more. That means
they are not in this empowered state. And you need to show and
to hold the vision for your ideal clients to show them
what's possible so speak more to the empowerment empowered side of your ideal clients rather than
showing them why okay you are so right i understand everything goes wrong and you're
struggling no doesn't that's not going to make anyone take any type of action.
So that's a huge mistake.
I think the reason why a lot of people do this is because,
and I was noting a couple of things.
One was that of fear marketing.
When we are speaking to those type of people that are in a disempowered stage, as you said, the only thing we can use is fear, is manipulation, is coercion, is saying, hey, you have five spots left.
Time is running out.
You have two hours left. you know like it's there is a difference between if you miss out you know you're gonna keep
suffering versus hey um if you miss out you're gonna have you you will have FOMO and this is
so much fun and I this is gonna be such an amazing thing for you and you know if you if you're not
coming that's cool but still you know you should should really
come because it's amazing it will help you a lot versus um if you're not coming your life is never
going to change it's going to be terrible for you um by the way you have an hour and then price is
going to go up and then you know so i feel like the fear marketing like leaning into the fear
and leaning into the that negative energy the urgency is when we need urgency.
Like, oh, you just do it now or like bye, you know, forever.
Versus like, hey, we have something really good for you.
If that's where you want to go, like, hey, I think you can.
I've seen it happen and I think you can.
So let's go.
You want to come?
If you don't want to come, you know what?
Just stay.
Watch the content.
Listen to me speak, like the podcast, whatever.
That's cool.
And whenever you're ready, come.
I think there's a difference between that energy,
like both energies.
Yeah, it's a difference.
And also it's very important,
even if you are on the side who is a client or you are on the side who is trying to attract a client,
when you are taking decisions based on your fears and based on that,
I need to do right now something because I'm going to miss out this opportunity.
You need to think about what happens.
What's the next step?
What's the second set of consequences. It's not
just the fact that you join a program or you have a new client in your program. It's how they are
going to show in that program. It's how they are going to make you feel when they don't show up to
do the work, when they don't show up to actually put all their hearts into having the results that you promised they are going to
make you feel like you are not good enough for this you can offer this type of service or this
type of coaching and then it hurts your brand and the perception you have about yourself
if somebody is showing up complaining all the time not taking action not doing the things that
you tell them to do it's going to affect every part of your business also if you are somebody
who is not ready to take that step but you take it because you are so afraid that you are going
to miss out that opportunity to join a program nothing is is going to change. I don't think in this narrative of if you pay for it, you are going to change.
No.
If you are in a state where nothing seems to work and you just don't take action at
all, if you pay $10,000 for a program, it's not going to change your situation.
It's going to make you feel worse, like I have paid even for this program and nothing works.
It's not a program.
It's how you show up in the program.
So it's very important to have this awareness on both sides
when you take this decision.
So I'm so glad that you bring up that into the discussion
because it makes so much sense.
Especially when you're desperate. and that's another thing maybe we can't go into it it's not even content mistake but like
when people are desperate and they really they believe that it's going to change their life
and we are when we are investing in that stage anyway i don't think it will help anyone. You know, it won't help you.
It won't help the person because when we are desperate,
that the energy of desperation
is repelling, you know,
there's no way that people
cannot tell you that you're desperate.
They can tell the way you DM.
You can, they can tell the way
you craft your messaging,
your email.
They can tell, like there is an messaging, your email. They can tell.
There is an energy of it and it's always repelling people.
Exactly.
It's very important to get rid of all the narratives that you have
before investing and before getting into things
that are going to offer a magic solution to everything that happens. Because what you will do is you are going to be
in another program with the same problem maybe you are in another environment but you are going
to be the same person so you need to clear up certain things before jumping or doing things
and here again is having this balance
because sometimes you can have all these things
and to show up powerful.
But be aware of the energy that you put out there
because people can feel your energy
and they can feel your state and mood and everything.
Even if it's through content
and it's through the online world,
they can see you.
Exactly. One more mistakes that i
see and i think it ties into your point um is when we talk about they can people can feel your energy
and i think you said like we talked about this um but a lot of the times i see content coming from people from a wounded place. Like they are just being angry, upset,
and then hurt by a client, by something.
And they come to online and they are like here to judge.
And whether it's your client that you're here to judge,
because now you want to be like,
I just want to be right and you're wrong. And like, here's that you're here to judge because now you want to be like, I just want to be right, you know, and you're wrong.
And like, here's why you're wrong.
You know, I think when you come into that energy and you're judgy, and honestly, it happened to me.
And I went back and I deleted those judgy posts.
Oh, my God, what was I thinking?
And now I have a rule for myself.
Like when I'm triggered, I don't touch anything.
I don't rule for myself. When I'm triggered, I don't touch anything. I don't touch the post.
I shouldn't be touching nothing because this is not going to come out great. It's just going to
trigger me even more. And I'm looking for validation for my trigger, which is like,
that's not going to be making my business look any better if I'm just here to get validation for my triggers. So when you are in those stages,
I think what would help you is to not scare your clients away
because you're so judgy with your content,
but instead like process it and then turn it to a lesson
and take that lesson and talk about the lesson itself,
how that whole experience gotten you.
Instead of judging anyone, instead of being super emotional,
looking for validation.
I think that takes time and that takes some processing,
but it will get there.
So I think, yeah, that's very common as well, I see.
I actually saw a post the other day about this.
Somebody, I don't know what they wrote,
but I know it created a lot of controversy.
And in the comments, I was seeing that
this person was trying to get back what they said
to justify their words.
And it's not good.
It's not looking good for your clients.
It's not looking good for anybody else.
So I agree with you on this
yeah uh anything else that you see on your end maybe this could be our last oh okay okay let me
i'm just gonna give you a second okay yasmina is drinking up some water hopefully it's not like anything else so on my end what I see also is to when people
are talking about very very specific tangible results that you get mm-hmm we
were talking about an example and in that case,
where it was about money.
So I'm going to help you make 10K.
And what happens right now,
market is that people
don't really want
those tangible results
in the way that it's presented.
Because you need to go further.
How is that going to change the life of your ideal clients?
What happens in my life if I make 10, 20, 50K, whatever number I feel good about?
How my life is going to change?
And when you say, my program is going to help you do this paint that picture how is going
to change their life their day by day not just that's the final result it's not people want money
or people want more uh happiness or whatever you are selling because they desire the result of the money.
They desire the result of happiness and how that's going to make them feel in their life.
So it's really important to have those examples and to give people, to paint a picture of how everything is going to change and how this is the best solution for them.
Because if you just say, again, something general, it's not working anymore.
And people feel the difference between those who get them and those who want to get them as clients and to sell something.
So it's very important to show me more show me how
my life is going to change show me how my business is going to look after i work with you how that
is going to impact not only my own life or the life or my business how it's going to impact my
relationship with uh my parents with my family, with my boyfriend, with even
with my dog. You can say, you can take your dog on a plane and so on. Oh, that would be amazing.
Yeah, sounds good. So speak more to the result of the outcome you're promising so that's very good you can take your dog in a
louis vuitton dog carrier and your dog can be the the you know a blast on the plane cargo i don't
know yeah but it's so true and i think if you can take it further and say like okay so working with me you're gonna feel this and here's why
because i've done it and i've done it repeatedly and here's why it works you know or here what
here's what other people say say or you know you can talk to abcd all my clients will tell you and
it's gonna be that it worked for them you know i think that's also like that's where we can discover if there is substance behind those claims you know
if their experience is behind it or it's just a fluffy claim to attract people yeah and i think
people who are succeeding right now on social media also are those people who get to know their
ideal clients to a much much deeper deeper level. To the level that
you know them, better they know themselves. So that's going to help you even more than saying,
okay, I don't understand what's happening because I promised this resource. I think I'm clear in my
language and all of this. No, just people need to, again, they need to feel that connection.
And connection leads to being profitable. But you cannot be profitable just by chasing money
or chasing something. Again, people are going to feel your energy and it's important to have
that essence to your message. And as you said, the substance, that's way more important than every strategy you have
exactly because i think and that ties into your point when i work with people and i work with
them i know them better than they themselves they know themselves and the reason why is because i
i've been talking to them you know i know when the things are like when they say one thing, but they really mean other
thing.
And if that can show up, and that's why I always preach on proximity over any type of
strategy, is because when you know them so well, because you work with them and you speak
to them, then everything you say afterwards is like, oh my God, this person is in my head.
And it's not because I do market research.
It's because I've been talking to these people.
I think that's what a lot of people is missing is that experience of talking to them.
And if they don't talk to them, it's going to be a guess game.
It's going to be like, you are this and you are that.
And then you're scratching your head. You're what content should i put out like really is that what you're doing or is it you that you are doing it you know
i think if you don't have that experience and you can't speak that those desires that they don't
even know they have um then it's gonna to be a guess game in your content.
And it's not going to work that well.
I totally agree on that.
And also when you speak with people,
it's really important to understand what they mean behind those words.
Because, for example, I can jump on a call with somebody
and they are going to tell me, I'm stuck.
But if I write in my content
do you feel stuck that's fluffy language that's what does it mean stuck how does it oh my god i
hate that you're stuck right and it is so important to get behind what they mean actually and not to
take their words to take the meaning behind their words
i even say when i hear people are you burned out and i'm like huh so you really don't know what
the symptoms of burnout are because a lot of people who are burned out they don't even know
they're burned out they're like, there's 12 steps of burnout.
The last two is depression and then suicide.
Okay, that's the two.
If you're there, you're probably not going to be browsing the internet.
But the old 10 steps before that are symptoms.
And symptoms are like, if you speak to the symptoms, and then, oh, yeah, by the way,
that's burnout.
And like, oh, my God, is it?
I didn't know. So instead of saying like, are you burned out are you stuck i really what would that mean if you were that person what would
you be thinking you would be sleeping probably all day you would not feel like you know inspired
to get out of bed you know if you say that to me and like oh that that's burnout like oh shit like
i'm on the stages of burnout thanks for letting me know that i know so i think
a lot of diagnostics are circling around as well in sometimes in contents you know like you're
stuck you like cohesion like oh um or burned out you know i love burnt out because that's such a
nuanced thing to understand a lot of people they don't even know they have it you know so i think it comes back to
you like you said like knowing what they mean when they say that and what does that mean is saying
that instead of saying stuck oh that means you're stuck by the way that means you're stuck you know
and let them make the connection of like oh my god i'm stuck you know oh my god i'm burned out
oh my god i'm depressed you know like let them come to that
consequence by you just saying the symptoms like the identifiers i think that's also nuanced and
it takes time for you to talk to people like yeah yeah so this is um one of the parts that i go with
my clients through the process is speak about the problems they don't know they
have. A really good example of everything you just said, because actually, there are so many
problems people don't know they have. And then you just need to describe those and to go into
how that looks in their day by day life. Like, are you sleeping all day? You don't feel like not even responding
to the message you got three days ago.
And when you talk about what really happens in their life,
then you can get to the people and it makes sense.
Because as you said, seeing Starport, any other world,
it's like, yeah, okay, sure.
And then just keep scrolling scrolling that doesn't mean
that you are not good at what you are doing and helping people it means that the way you communicate
that needs to resonate with that so yeah i love that all right let's wrap up this session jasmina
any advice that you were giving that you were giving to your five years ago self, what would that be?
I just want you to, I want us to both like part with Winston.
And I will link your Facebook page and Instagram if you have like all their socials so people can reach out to you if they want to after this episode.
But I just want us to wrap up with some Winston at the the end what would you be saying to yourself like five years ago um i think that's a good one um
yeah that's a really good question that's very interesting because i would say to myself that
to follow my intuition because i knew what i wanted to do I felt like I'm not meant for a
nine-to-five job I knew I wanted more out of this life and out of everything that I have and
not only I wanted to create this income but I also wanted to have an impact and help other people
but I said no just stay in the job,
do what everyone else does and follow the right path.
And sometimes, as I said in the beginning,
things that you want to do are not going to make sense
to everyone around you.
Sometimes they are not going to make sense to you either.
But you need to go for it and I will tell to myself
go for it because it's worth it and I would love to have all the time back and so on I'm grateful
for all the lessons I'm grateful for everything that happened but again I knew what I wanted to do and where I wanted to go.
I didn't know exactly what I'm going to do, but I had this calling, this desire.
So I will tell myself to trust more and to trust my instinct.
Love that.
All right.
Thank you so much, Jasmina, for being here today, for sharing your wisdom.
Again, guys, if you're listening to this,
I'm going to link her social
media where you can find her
and message her,
reach out to her. She's amazing. You can
read her content. You can
get to know her better if you want
to as well. She's awesome
at what she does. Thank you
so much again, Yasmina, for your time here
and for sharing all your nuggets of knowledge. It was a pleasure having you does. Thank you so much again, Yasmina, for your time here and for sharing all your nuggets of knowledge.
It was a pleasure having you here.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you a lot.