On Display with Melissa Gorga - 100% Faithful (w/ Dolores Catania)

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

This week Melissa catches up with the always lovely and always faithful, Dolores Catania, to talk about how she used her own private detective skills on the latest season of The Traitors, the one competitor that the jury is still out on (even after the show), and why a life on RHONJ perfectly prepares you for a reality competition show. Dolores also gives us an update on her amazing family, how she and Paulie are doing, and why she’s loving this stage of parenting. This week’s sponsors: Apartments.com – The Place to Find a Place: www.apartments.com Belle Vitale – Improve Hormone Health and Well-Being: www.BelleVitale.com Dime Beauty - Clean, Luxurious, Affordable Skincare: www.DimeBeautyCo.com Naked Wines – Amazing Wines at an Affordable Price: www.nakedwines.com/Melissa , click “enter voucher” and use code MELISSA for both the code and password (6 Bottles for $39.99) Orgain – Clean, Organic, Plant Protein Powder: www.Orgain.com/OnDisplay (30% off order) PlutoTV - Free Streaming TV: www.Pluto.TV Sono Bello – Lose Stubborn Fat in One Visit: www.SonoBello.com/Melissa

I'll never have that feeling again that I had being there and it kills me. That's how much I loved it. What's up guys? Welcome to another episode of On Display with Melissa Gorgas. On display, on display each and every day. I love when Dolores Catania doesn't wait for her introduction. And she just she's Joe Gorgas. Do you guys see why she gets along so well? Dolores? I love this. You didn't even let me introduce you. I have such

nice things about you. No, but I love it. That was so because honestly, Joe Gorga, that's how he like I go to say like, Alright, guys, so I have one of your favorites with me today. And Joe's like, it's me. I'm here. Just stop. Let me start talking. Like, he does that all the time. But anyway, you are one of my favorite Jersey girls. And I feel like you're one of the best private investigators I know, in life. of the best private investigators I know in life. So ladies and gentlemen, I have Dolores Catania. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm good. How

are you? I'm awesome. It's been a minute. I know. I hate that we haven't been to like dinner. Where did I see you last? Was it like the LA event? I forget where I saw you. I think that we were actually, we were at a premiere, a movie premiere? Yeah, that's what it was. Red ones? That was so much fun. I think that was one of the, that I showed up late too and I had full- Oh, you couldn't make the red carpet. Oh my God. What's more annoying than doing full hair and makeup showing up and they're like the red carpet's clothes. I'm like, are you kidding me?

This is why you constantly speak. I know. Exactly. Exactly. And so we went and had a little drink and it worked out fine. It was fun though. It was fun. I was very annoyed that day.

How are you, Dolow? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. I'm in sprinkle cookie world over here. Like, you know that. Like, I'm just like drowning in sprinkles. We just released Valentine's Day sprinkles, so the Valentine's Day.

I saw. So cute. And I know that a lot of people wanted them. Thank you for sending them. I shared them with my sisters. Did they love them? Were they good? They loved them.

Everyone's saying how good they are. Awesome. Good. Yeah, no, they love, you know what? They're just not like a typical sprinkle cookie. I feel like they're a little bit better. So, yeah, that's right. They're not like drop, like they're just,

they were really good. And I know they were like crazy sold out. Congratulations. And the box was like a gift box. So if you're buying a gift, I even thought about that for you, like you're ahead of it, but I'm like, this would be a cute Valentine's Day gift. A thousand percent. Yeah.

You know what happened to Lars? We didn't realize how many people were going to do them as gifts. Like I just was thinking people were going gonna buy sprinkle cookies, but then every single one was actually going as a gift because they were writing in the gift line. And Dolores, you would die laughing. If you could read some of these messages people were sent. You could imagine, right?

No, please tell me one. Congratulations on your redone home. I hope your new I hope your new baby doesn't grow up to throw these in the garbage. Like, God bless to Sophia. I hope she's normal. I hope she's that high sister-in-law. I won't throw these in the funniest messages. Oh, my God, like you want to send them just to give that message. That's prettyical. Oh my God. It's almost like you want to send them just to give that message.

That's pretty funny. People are funny. No, some of them were making us like chuckle. People are being very creative with sending these as gifts, which I thought is funny. We have like people sending them like if they're teachers gifts, they're Valentine's Day gifts, they're sent in to their girlfriends. So it's good. Thank God all is well.

And you know me, I'm like a workaholic. That's it. Like, I just know that we need a sprinkle cookie candle that says like, I know someone else just who just called me and said, Where's the sprinkle cookie candle? Someone, someone good? Who was it? But they just had the same exact idea. They're like, the candle needs to come out immediately. So I'm working on it. I'm working on it. But they just had the same exact idea. They're like the candle needs to come out immediately. So I'm working on it. I'm working on it. There's that would be so good. Yeah, there's gonna be a cake coming out is gonna be a bunch of

stuff. We're gonna just keep going. But enough about me. I want to talk about you. Because as much as I miss you, I feel like I'm catching up with you a little bit because I've been watching traders with Joe every bit because I've been watching Traders with Joe. Every single release I've been watching. Really? Yes, and I'm like, come on Zolo, make us proud. You're doing awesome.

So far so good. Thank you. Listen, you're very likable. So I feel like it's easy for people to kind of want you around and keep you around. And like, you vote, you're a girl's girl in so many ways. And you're also like a guy's guy. I feel like too.

You can be both, right? Right. So Paul calls me the chameleon all the time. But so well, sometimes we call you Switzerland, but you know how that goes. You have mastered all of the chameleon Switzerland. So like this is your game, baby. Like if you can't do this this Dolores, no one can. That's all I'm saying.

It made it harder because there was a target on the housewives back as you say, like, how'd you feel about that? Were you like a little pissed off? Yes, I'm really freaking annoyed at that. I think it's very unfair play. So like if a bunch of the housewives got together and you guys said we are going for the survivors get every single one of them off, like in the first five episodes. That's so unfair. That's not right. I think it's very messed up that they're doing that.

And I was like, and as much as I thought Bob, the drag queen was very entertaining, like he came to kill, right? Like he came to murder, he brought the sass, he was coming to slay. Like I saw his vibe from the second he walked into that castle, but then I think like making him a traitor just gave him this power that he was just like ready to like roll with, right? Oh yeah.

When they become traitors, I think I would have had a hard attack being a traitor. Like I don't think I could have handled it, yeah. When they become traders, I think I would have had a hard attack being a trader. I don't think I could have handled it, Melissa, lying to somebody's face. It takes such a toll on the traders to be traders, even if they get there and they're like, yeah, I wanted this. But by the time that they go, they're so tired, it has weighed on them. I noticed that with Phaedra. Did you watch the episode before with Phaedra? I wasn't as invested, I have to be honest, seasons one and two. It was in the background or something. So no, I have to say no to that because I feel like now I'm watching because you're

on so I got interested and I'm watching, but I never really watch it, but I heard Phaedra was amazing. Was she a traitor? She was, and she was amazing. So the true talent is when you're able to talk yourself out of being thrown out of the round table. You can't stop them from murdering you. There's nothing you could do. Unless you get in a fight with a traitor, and then if you're going to be banished,

then you're screwed. But then they're screwed because then it puts a target on them. Right. Right. It's like there's so many pieces to the puzzle. But wait, first of all, I want to know, what are you, are you pissed that they keep going for housewives? Like, do you feel like you're next or that's I was like, well, first of all, I don't I don't like People I know we fight as a cast but outside people coming from my friends. I don't like that shit. So I felt like I Felt offended that and I was getting really mad, but you don't know who to even be mad at because Then I thought I was starting to think like a cop. I'm like, oh, I see what you're doing now. You're killing off all my friends and leaving me for last to make it look like I'm the one

that did it. Right. Oh my God. Yes. I didn't even think of that, but that could be too. It's a tactic. Do you think they just think that housewives are the most popular, so like get them out of here? Like what? Why? Why?

Why are they coming for you guys? You know what I think? Housewives really don't know what the hell they're doing when it comes to a game. So what the hell did you get rid of them first for you dumb idiot? You shouldn't have one of the gamers who know how to play the freaking game. Like the houses were like, like Chanel Lyann thought survivor meant that they'd survived starvation and drought somewhere in some country. She's like, that's a show. I thought when you call them survivors, it was they survived something. Like she's like, yeah, there's survived something

that they came from. Like she you know, Oh my god, that is so funny. Why would you waste a kill on her? Nobody would even listen to her if she said you were a traitor. So what? She said you're a traitor. And then like Robin was wrong every single time. So why would you waste a kill on Robin? Right, like let her just-

Kill somebody in the game that knows the game. Right, like let her float around. She's not a threat. You know, one thing I- Exactly. One thing I noticed and I feel like it might be your strategy just because I know you, but tell me if I'm wrong. I really want to know this because like watching you, I'm going, okay, I know Dolores and I

know she's very good at navigating questions and like brushing it off and like not really answering the question with the question, right? Like you're great at navigating that. So I think that you're, and maybe not just you, some of the other people there too, your way to get through is kinda like when it comes to the round table situation, I feel like you stay very quiet. And I'm like, is it because they're saying,

like stay off the radar, don't, because I feel like whoever stays in the point of conversation, then they end up going. Like whoever you guys end up talking about in that conversation, then they're gone. So I'm like, maybe her strategy is like, don't say anything. Just sit there, be quiet, and you'll last to the next episode.

Like, were you thinking that at all or no? I was learning the game as I was playing it. So I couldn't really come for someone because I really wasn't sure until I saw the way they reacted to how people spoke to them. Got it. So- Because you have to see how they're going to react to whatever someone else says to them.

Right. I was studying them. Now, the smaller it gets, the less you're able to do that. Because when it gets smaller and smaller, now you don't have the luxury of looking around and seeing what's going on. So you just got to start moving because you only have so many times to get the traders out because if the traders win, they take all the money. For sure. And I feel like reading their reactions is like the key to all of this.

Yeah. Like for sure. My mother told me something that I didn't realize was going to be the like, they get best advice of anybody. I spoke to Phaedra, MJ, Kate Chastain before I left. I had friends come and watch because I only had a short time to get to know what this is all about. Still getting there were like, what the fuck? But I was like, my mom doesn't have peacocks. So I sat with her and you know, she's so innocent, Melissa. She's like your mother, like my mother's the most religious person. So I go, you know, mom, there's faithfuls and there's traders and the traders like murder you at night. And we just have to figure out who they are. But how am I going to know who they are? And she goes, it's easy.

And I go, how's it easy? You don't even know the freaking game, mom. This is how it goes. She goes, evil can't stay with evil. Because they can't get along. Two together, they won't work. So that's what started happening. So I started to see who started to really go at it.

There's a different dynamics of these traders. This was a different Tori. See, that was the best advice from your mother, from Valerie, because the truth is, I would never even think of that, but it's true. Two evils can't be together, because they'll kill each other. Even in real life, yeah.

That is such good advice. I love that, and I love your mother. She's good, how is she? Is she good? She's good. How is she? Is she good? She's going for a knee replacement tomorrow. So, she is. But I wish we could get that out of the way.

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her facial expressions and her little big puffy lips. Carolyn, Carolyn, I'm like, she makes me laugh in every episode because she just looks back the fact that she's a traitor I like I thought is like, genius, by the way. And like, I don't know, she just makes me laugh in every single scene because she just seems so out of like sorts and confused and shocked. But like she also seems innocent in a way. How did you like her? How do you get along with her?

I did get along with her. They're very different. The gamers are just very different. She was nice. They're very, Melissa, Melissa Gorga. You know how I know that. Delores, I can read just from that answer. I think I know.

Holy shit. You don't even need to say anything else. I know you for way too long. I got your answer. Melissa Gorga. Oh my God. That is so funny. I don't even.

Okay, good. Would you like to elaborate? Go ahead and elaborate if you must. I'm not used to emotions. Okay. I know you're like, you know, you're like no crying in baseball. What's happening here? Did you see like I actually get mad at people when they get upset? Like I yell at them. Oh my god, that is so funny. All right. well then now I'm excited to see more because there must be something coming

that I have not seen yet that I'm excited to see about that. Guess who else I like? Guess who else I like so far? Now we've only got to see what, four episodes? Is it four that we're on right now or five? Five, yeah. Okay, so I did see five. I just saw Nikki get-

Oh, yeah. You know, so when Nikki was there, she was like a little, like she was reserved and she was quiet. Honestly, Melissa, I liked everyone. I really did. I know. There's no one not to like. I know.

They're all, I'm sure everybody's there playing, trying to make a show and playing a game, you know? So. Did you see the men crying as they got in their confessionals? I'm like. They're mad. Cause this is like, they wanted to do it. Wait, that's who I want to tell you that I love Dylan.

He just, I, Oh my God. Oh my God. He's like little Frankie. Yes. Yeah. He's got that thing like that. I'm like every and Joe feels the same way, which is so funny because when we're watching it, every time he comes up for a confessional or a talk, I love everything he says, I agree with him 100%. I'm like, he's like my favorite.

I like Dylan and I didn't even know he was amazing. And he's such a humble, sweet, he loves sweet kid. He loves his brother, loves his brother. That's how it seems. That's how it seems. Coming from like he had a you know, he was in the they have underneath like, Zach Efron's brother, but I'm like, that's fucking Dylan Efron. He's not just Zach Efron's brother. This kid is in his own right, probably one of the best humans you will ever meet. He's got so much going for him in a humane standpoint. He's just a gentleman. He's kind.

He's smart. He reminded me, of course, of little Frankie, so if I could have carried him around the castle, I would have. But even when he's like- I could see that. I'm telling you. I felt that. You feel him through the screen.

And it was funny because I was thinking that and Joe was like, I like this guy, I like this guy. Like everything he said, like I was like, I know. We both just like thought he was awesome. He's very smart. He's very smart, but he felt like that, and not to speak for him, but he felt like even though he knew Bob the Drag Queen was a traitor, no one listened to him because he felt like he didn't have a voice.

Some people are like, well, like Carolyn. Carolyn was the traitor who knew what the child she was doing. She's like, stop getting out the housewives. It's stupid. Why are we going after them? And again, she was right and no one was listening to her because there's some big egos in this gaming world. Oh, I'm sure. The other guy from Survivor, the Boston Rob, oh my God. When he came in, I was like, oh, I'm scared. I didn't even watch that season of Survivor, but he's supposedly like a gamer, right? This is his thing. Boston Robb, Boston Robb is every guy we grew up with.

Okay, he's your typical Italian guy from the neighborhood. He's in construction. I think I remember what he died. He's in construction. I think I remember what he does. I think he's a Mason. He's a Mason. I can totally believe that 100%. That's what he feels like one of us.

He is so like- He plays hard. He plays hard. He's very smart, but he's still like the regular Italian guy down the block. Did you get along with him? I did, of course. It's like whatever. Yeah, he was a traitor, but I think they wasted a lot of kills on Housewives, stupid shit

like that. Why wasn't Tom Sandoval thrown out on the first episode? Right. Can I say Tom Sandoval or Sandoval, Sandoval, Tom Sandoval? I think he's kind of funny on this. I'll give him that. And you know, he gets a lot of heat. Like he's one of the most, you know, he gets shit on in the public, in the public eye. We all know that. But what was your experience with him during filming? Like how, what did you feel? Anything?

He shoots himself in the foot all the time. But it's comic relief and the girls busted his balls so bad, it was fucking hysterical. I saw Chris Shell just nailing his ass to the wall every- Well, he started with her. He started with her. Okay started with her. Okay, so yeah. And I love Chrishell too. Chrishell just looks like a little Barbie dressed every day around the castle.

Like she has like so far all her outfits. I feel like she's a little Barbie walking around the castle. It's like funny. She's 100% a live Barbie, a living Barbie doll. And Gabby, little Gabby Wendy, amazing. They're very smart girls. She's 100% a live Barbie, a living Barbie doll. And Gabby, little Gabby Wendy, amazing. They're very smart girls. Those are the Bambys.

How come you're not a Bamby? You're big eyed and bushy tails. Why weren't you part of the Bamby crew? I don't know, but it's okay. But Ciara, look at Ciara. She wasn't a part of really the Bamby crew either. Right. I know. She wasn't. Because I feel like like Sierra, I know her. I feel like she kind of stays in her own lane. She does her own thing. She's reserved. She's quiet, but then she'll attack.

I know her. I know Sierra. I've done a couple of things with her, but I'm excited to keep seeing like, you know, what's going on with all of this. I just, I have to tell the listeners, guys, when going on with all of this. I just, I have to tell the listeners, guys, when Dolores, when I watched the first episode, I literally text Dolores like instantly because I'm like, where's hair and makeup? Like who has hair and makeup? Who doesn't have hair and makeup? Where are you sleeping at? I'm like, does it look like I had hair and makeup? I don't think I had lipstick on in one confessional. Here's the thing. You know that blow dry brush? It's like, yeah, I'm sure you have it. Yes. We want that for me. They bought that for me

while I was there because you know, it's like the plugs are different. So I didn't bring anything that would work there. Um, so you do your own hair and makeup. They are so tight mouthed. They don't mess around at all. Really? Like, it's strict. They, you're not, like, I had people, we're leaving gifts where we were, we weren't allowed to have them. They go through your bags. They take your phone when you get there.

You get, we got four stations on the TV and you weren't allowed to have a remote. Four stations. Why four? That I don't understand. Why can't you have a remote? Because it was just regular TV. It was just like three or four stations. Maybe there was six, but you wouldn't be watching UK news really that much.

Well, that's all there was to watch. But do you get a day off? Is there a day where you're not filming at all? One day, Sunday. And the hours are long. The hours are long and the sun doesn't go down to one o'clock in the morning. So- Oh my God. Oh my God. So all night- You don't know what time it is. You're not allowed to have a watch. Oh my, why? Like I see see this is why God bless you. You're not allowed to know what time it is.

You do not, for a full month, I never knew what time it was. But what do you do on a Sunday with four channels and no phone? What did you do all day? I said my rosaries. I... I can't, I cannot.

Oh my God. This is not a show that I could ever join. Like, I could never tell the truth. Like, you keep saying you loved this. It sounds like human torture to me. Oh my God. But it was inclusion from, for me, for what was going on here at the time. You do understand when everything in our world was blowing up. I didn't know it. I had five minutes a week to talk to, they give you your phone for 30 minutes once a week to speak to your kids. My kids don't go on social media that

much and didn't know what was being said. So that left Paul with five minutes and you have to FaceTime because you have somebody sitting with you. It's a supervised phone call. So like, I couldn't really, he wouldn't be able to tell me. So if somebody gets thrown off, they don't go back and say who was the traitor. Like if it got back to somebody, they're not going to be able to tell you what happened. So if you get thrown off, like for instance, these people who got thrown off, Nikki and whoever, did they get sent right home? Or like, do they have to stay in lockdown in their home wherever they are?

No, they go home. They go home. Because I was scared people would figure out like, oh, well, we saw her walking through an airport so she must have been fired. Do you know what I'm saying? I wonder how strict that was if you can go home once you're done. Yeah, no. You have to go home. You can't stay. You got to go home once you're done. Yeah, no. No, you have to go home.

You can't stay. You got to go. Okay. All right. So that's good. I mean, at least I guess that would be, and like she said, the silver lining is like, all right, let me go see my kids. Like, I'm out of here.

Right. And she was going home to a lot. I mean, you saw what happened with her when she got home. I didn't reach out to her. And I wish that we would have given her more support there had we known that she was going home to that. Like poor Nikki. Poor Nikki. You never know what somebody's going through, Melissa. You know? You really don't know. And we've learned that just with like, you know, I feel like just in our lives and our shows and everything. It's just like you never know.

You never know. When someone is having a bad day and they give you an attitude, maybe give them a pass once in a while because you don't know what happened before. Try to make them, yeah. And yeah, it's not always got to be a fight. It's not always has to be a reaction to something. No, agreed. Agreed.

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Okay, so hair and makeup, you did it yourself. I need to know these things. Every day before you went, you just did it yourself. What time in the morning did they wake you up and get you to that breakfast table? 6.30. I wanna say- And you were probably ready to get up anyway,

because you're just in that room all damn night. And you know what? I'm gonna tell you this. The food is so clean. Everybody lost weight there. They're gonna come back when I'm dead. You know, Delores, like when we go to Italy and we come back skinnier and we eat pasta for a week. It's like-

So there was no spaghetti and meatballs. My family had it waiting for me when I got home. My brother had a full dinner waiting for me. I went from the airport to my mother's house for spaghetti and meatballs. That is amazing. That is exactly what I would do. I'd be like, show me the food and give me my phone. You were probably on your phone the whole way on the flight back home just to catch up. You didn't want to know. You know what?

To have gotten deprogrammed from all that was such a cleansing. And it's so cathartic also to sit in that room. And I started to journal and just write down my feelings and my thoughts because what could you do in a room all day without leaving? I would decorate it with my scarves and stuff and spray it with my perfumes or whatever and do a little workout. I would love to just look inside your room on a Sunday because I'd be like, what are you going to do all day, girl, with these 12 hours?

Like, what are you going to do there? My room was the cleanest. Really? And like you, they brought you food then. They brought you breakfast, lunch, dinner. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Yes. And you spoke to somebody once a week to make sure you were

okay. How are you feeling? How's your head? How's things? What's going on? It was a beautiful- Make sure you're not losing it alone in that room. They want to make sure you're not- Yeah. They'll check in. In between meals, they would come in and say, you're doing okay. We just hope you're okay. Beautiful people. The producers, the production company were the most beautiful people. I miss them. I still miss them watching. It makes me, you know, I'll never have that feeling again that I had being there and it kills me. Wow. That's how much I love it.

I can't believe how much you loved it. Oh my God. Yeah, I know. I don't talk like this. You know what I mean? I know. I'm like, what? I've never heard you say you love something this much. That's crazy. You must have like, it really like freed you from the outside world and it put you in like a mindset. You don't normally have to play a game like that. I mean, we definitely play games on our show, but it's not like this. This is like very mind, like using your mind and cleansing from the world. I mean, not talking to Pauly, he was probably,

I would text Pauly here and there while we were gone. I'd be like, how you doing? Is she home yet? He's like, nope. I would always like ask him like, where's Dolores? I have to say he was so good. He checked on my kids. He would take them out to dinner. He would take out my mother for dinner. You know, he took care of dog him and dog hung out every day dog went to work with him. He was so good. And

you know, to be able to go away and like, you know, I don't know if Nikki, whatever, whoever, but to be able to go away and not to worry about the guy that's home, right? Like, Oh, that a lot of girls can't do that. Like I like, they would freak out. And for me, it's not only just worry about the guy, like I want to know, you know, me, I'm a psycho. I want to know everywhere. Yeah, I want to know everywhere Joe is at all times. We're just like that but on top of it is like I have like my businesses the kids my teenagers like you are really in the perfect situation where you can be like know what

bye everybody I gotta go for three weeks you know what I mean I whatever it is I was so excited getting into the car and when I got there and they were like, okay, you got to hand your phone over. I'm like, here you go. You're like, take it, bye, I'm gone guys. Delete Dolores for a couple weeks. They're like, well, we could give it to you for a few more hours. I was like, no, no, no, take it now.

Take it now. You're like, we're good. And by the way, it was when all this shit was going down with us, too. Like a house swat. It was like the house, it was like leaving a house that was on fire. Unbelievable.

I don't know. Everyone always asks, who do you think would be the worst out of all of our Jersey girls to do traders? Knowing our personalities, who do you think would not be able to do traders well? What do you think would not be able to do traders well? What do you think? Out of all of us, I think, you know what? I just think that our life really, because we're so heightened with backstabbing and things like that, we can handle it.

Other people were falling apart there, Melissa. Yeah, we're like, what? We do this like it's a piece of cake. We do this on a Tuesday. I'm like Yo, what do you cry? You're gonna are you gonna cry right now? Are you kidding? Sit down. I know For no reason no one yelled at them. They don't let you treat each other bad in the UK. That is a rule. You have to be good to one another. Yeah. Right. But you have so much experience now with the UK because Polly and you're going Ireland all the time. That's the truth too. Yeah. So it wasn't foreign to me, but a lot of it wasn't foreign to me,

but there is a difference, the people are just so much nicer. I don't know how to say it. Like, oh. I know. It's a different vibe, especially when we're on the East Coast too. I feel like we also have a different vibe, like vibe amongst each other with just being like New Jersey, New York, whatever. But we're good people deep down inside, right? Dolores? We're good deep down inside, right, Dolores? We're good deep down inside. Oh, no. Of course we are. We can love as much as we can hate, and that is-

A thousand percent. That is the exact right answer. If I had to sum it up, that's who we are. My dad always said that about me personally, but I extend that on to my friends. Okay, good. I'll take it. I like it. I could love you as much as I could hate you.

I feel like that sums it up, right? That's a pretty good thing. Sure. How's Frankie? I know he's in love. I want to talk about your fam for a minute. And Gabby, how is everybody? Everybody's doing really good.

I'm enjoying looking at the stages of your kids' lives because that was my busiest time of my life and my most worrisome time of my life. Oh my God. Because I get it, Melissa. I keep an eye. I always keep an eye on the kids. Yes, you do. You do.

I see your boys are really, really like, and I'm glad that they have a brother. You know what I mean? Like they have each other and they're really like so good looking with their hair and they're so cute and well done. And they're athletes. And I'm like, you know, it's not an easy time for you. It's just, it's busy. And it's like the times where now it gets serious.

They're going in their car, they're going for a drive, they're going to a party. It's just one bad decision. And I remember Frankie took my car out at night. He was 16. And his friend was at a party. Dougie was at a party and he called Frankie to come pick him up. Frankie got arrested. And no one told me. Jesus, I'm not wanting that phone call yet. I don't even know how I would like it. So Frankie gets picked up by the cops and he's so afraid of me, he calls Frank's sister to pick him up. And then one day, and I know nothing, I'm sleeping. By the time I wake up, Frankie's home. Oh my God.

So then a week later, Big Frank comes over to bring Frankie to school and I'm like, he must want to go bang one of the moms or something. Why is he bringing Frankie to school? Like, why is he here? And Frankie had core and Frankie passed out in court and banged his head. And you know, Frank's like, Joe, like, oh yeah, okay. Well, you're still going to school.

You got to bring in concussion, a lump on your head. And I still don't know nothing. He comes home, he's got a lump on his head from school. Because they knew you would kill him. They knew that you would lose your mind and go crazy. I would kill him. Frank kept it from me. He waited for Frankie to be away at a retreat to actually tell me the story. Oh my God.

I would kill, I would be so annoyed if everyone did that, but Dolores, they were that scared of you. He's like, please don't tell my mother. I wanted to strangle him and his friends. And then, you know- Because it's scary too. They drive without a license and I'm not going to mention these, but it just happened in Geno's friend group. One kid just did this, it's funny you're saying this, this weekend and it turned very, it was bad and scary. And I'm like, the car's demolished, thank God. It's just, it's bad. This is what they do.

They think it's funny. It's the middle of the night, let's take the car out. My mother's asleep. No, this is exactly what you're saying. The time of life is scary actually right now. Every time Gino- It's very scary. When he walks out the door,

I'm like, where are you going? What are you doing? What's where? Who's house you got? He doesn't want to answer much either because they're like more independent now. So it's like, I just don't know what's going on. I feel like everyone's just like walking all over me in this house. That's basically that's how I'm starting to feel because like between my daughter that like lives her own life basically, and she's back and forth to Delaware. Gino's like driving his own car, doesn't need me for anything. So he's just like, I'll be back, I'm leaving.

But sometimes I turn around, I'm like, where's Gino? His car's not even here. Like, I don't even know where he is. And then, you know, then there's the angel of the world, Joey. I know, I know. Who still is like at the, you know, he's my baby, but he's, you know, he's still getting rough with him because he's going to parties and doing this and doing that.

So I'm like, I'm just at that point that if I had- It's hard. Oh, you can't, honestly, to be honest, could you do it? Yes, you have good kids. You have good kids. And I know you micromanage. I know you. Everything is perfection.

Thank you. Bye. Yeah, I'm a micromanager for sure. I know you. Everything is perfection. Thank you. I'm a micromanager for sure. Yeah, but listen, Joe's no pushover. Your husband is no pushover. No. They're scared of him, believe it or not. He's easier on a daily basis, but for a bigger situation, they'd be scared of him.

They laugh at me, believe it or not. I'm tougher on a daily. basis, but like for a bigger situation, they'd be scared of him and they like they laugh at me, believe it or not. I'm tougher like on a daily. He's like if a big thing happens, he's no, you know, Joe goes nuts. I say all the time, you and Joe parent together and you're stressed like, like a lot of people say, Oh, they have good kids and Mike, let me tell you something. They're straight. Yeah, they're straight. We don't. We don't. Which I love.

I've seen it over the years. Did you remember, since my kids were little, Dolores, I've been like that. I've always been really strict and they have to walk a straight line from when they were two, like two years old. Oh, 100%. I do. I love it. I've admired it and I see it.

It pays off, but it's not, it's not them that you always have to worry about. It's circumstances. It's one stupid thing that happens at a party or whatever. So this was the time you're in is the time I was on top of them every single day. 24 hours a day to the point where like, they get annoyed with me, but I don't care. I can't even keep track of all of these kids. I'm like, where are you guys?

I don't even know what's happening. My daughter just flew back from Tampa. She went to go see her friends at that college. I feel like I've lost control, Dolores. I'm like, I have no more control. She went to Tampa? Yeah, but I'm usually so in control. I think this is, Dolores. I'm like, I have no more control. She went to Tampa? Yeah, but I'm usually so in control. I think this is the point of life I'm at where it's like, when your kids turn into teenagers and they're all teenagers, you do lose a little of that control,

where it's like they kind of make their own decisions and I'm like, I'm annoyed by it. No, I get it and I've been there, but they come back. Like Gabby calls me for everything. And Frankie calls me for everything. And sometimes I don't have an answer for them, but I just listen and I let them vent. And that is something I learned from my mother. She, when they were little, if they talked back to me, I would never. I probably overreacted. I overreacted, okay? I wish I could take some of those times back.

But when they got older and they vent on me, or when I was older and I remember when I had a bad breakup or whatever and I was nasty to my mother, she didn't say a word. She just let me be mean to her. Oh, why did you work on that then? Because with my daughter, with my sons, with my daughter, she says one thing to me. I'm like, what? Come again? I go, go, go.

Yeah. I know. And my mother said to me too, or Joe says it too, he's like, just get... And I'm like, but why does she have to say it like that? Why does she have to say it like that? You know, like I freak out. You know, it's not easy being a kid. Melissa, would you want to be a kid again? No, I wouldn't. This podcast is sponsored by Naked Wines. Ever walk in a store and have no idea what wine to get? Yeah, me too. I've stopped wasting time at the grocery stores staring at a giant wall of wine and not knowing what to pick. That's why I love Naked Wines.

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in the back and, and you're still getting your heart broken. Like it was the first time. I mean, you build a callus over the years, but like in your twenties, you still get that like, oh, like a thousand percent hurt so easily. And you still like things are a big deal. And you lose sleep over like somebody, something somebody said to you and you still like things are a big deal and you lose sleep over like somebody somebody said to you and you take it more personal. You know life gets easier I feel like it definitely gets easier if you do it the right way. I feel like I've lived my life in a very decent way and and I I don't have a lot of regrets. I have a lot of misspent time.

I wish I could get back and probably spend some time on things that I more time than I should have on things. But I can't see them. You know what Dolores, you did a good job. You're an amazing mom. You've made a name for yourself. You work hard.

You're doing amazing, sweetie. You really are. I'm happy, yeah. And you look happy and everything's good with you and Polly. You guys are happy and you're in Polly's house. You guys live together, right? You're always at Polly's house. We live together.

We do a lot together like an old couple. I just had a heart issue this week and it was nice to have somebody there. I'll tell you what it is. I have Afib. Wait, what do you have? AFib, atrial fibrillation. Oh my gosh. Wait, so explain what that is. So it's an electrical issue with your heart. So what happened, Melissa, was I was driving,

I got this pain in my chest. Now I know you've been through open heart surgery as a baby and you had that. So I'm telling you this because I don't want people to ignore this if this is something they get and I'll tell you really quickly. I got a pain from here to here and sometimes you get a pain and we ignore it because we're busy right? So I'm driving but it didn't go away and it was like a sharp pain that shot from here to here and I was like, oh, and then I was like, ah, wait, that doesn't right. That's just didn't go right away. It's not a gas pain or from working out.

That's fucking weird. And then I started to get heart palpitations like for a week. And then I started to realize like, Wait, I don't like this. Like something's not right. Something's not right. And it felt like it was in my throat. Like, like I would go like this because it almost gave felt like it was in my throat. Like, I would go like this,

because it almost gave me like scratchiness in my throat. And Paul's like, I'm like, you know, Paul, I don't feel right now, he had a heart issue and he had that ablation. So I'm like, I don't feel right. He got on the phone with the doctor within three seconds, had me at the doctor's. I have like a monitor on my chest here

that I have to wear. And the next day the doctor called me and he's like, you need to get to an electrophysicist because it goes to the doctor's office, right? Oh, so they're monitoring you through the chest, got it. Okay. Yeah. And you know, like as women, we don't want to sound like hypo.

I don't want to sound like a pussy. Like, I don't have time for this. I have to press. I know, like as women, we don't want to sound like hypo. I don't want to sound like a pussy. Like, like I don't have time for this. I have to press. I know, I know. I want to get my arms done. I have ozempic arms. I mean, I have plastic surgery coming up. Like I got so much shit to do.

I want to get my boobs fixed. They're sagging. And I'm like. That's my last question for you is what plastic surgery is next. So go ahead. We'll talk about that after your heart condition. Yeah.

Because now it's getting in the way. And I'm being silly and trivial. So what I'm saying is you need to not ignore heart flutters. Don't ignore that. Wait, so they found it. How did they fix it? How did they fix that? I have to go for an ablation. Wow. That's what Pauly just did, right? And that's what Paul just did. Paul had WPW, which is more of a congenital thing, and it

fixes it right away. I have to get the same procedure to fix it, so it's an electrical problem, not a plumbing problem. So I don't have artery issues. I have electrical. So the bottom half of the heart is beating different than the top anyway. So it's an irregular beat that they have to go in and- It's an irregular beat and they have to go in and ca It's a regular beat and they have to go in and quarterize it or do whatever they do. You did feel the symptoms of that though.

You felt something was off in your body. Yes. I'm telling you right now, it got to the point where I probably wouldn't have ignored it much longer, but having somebody with you and saying, no, no, no, you got to... And if you're with somebody and they say, oh, my heart is fluttering, stay on top of them. You can't ignore your body. Your body tells you when something is wrong. So yeah.

Wow. That's scary. Well, I'm glad you found that and figured it out. Something like that just happened to my sister too. She had a... She had a mini heart attack and she's young and healthy and she works out every day. My sister Kim, she's very, you know, she's very in shape and she just had something. It was a little bit, she had to be in the hospital for a minute and it was like a little scary, but it was some type of blockage that they had to go in and clear

out and she was feeling the same thing. She was out with her girlfriends, literally riding bikes to lunch with her girlfriends, and she felt it in her back, in her shoulder, like a pain. It's true. If you feel anything, I think women always think it's going to be the men with the heart attacks, and the pain in the heart, and all, but it's more common now in women. We need to pay attention if we're feeling anything because that was hard to hear about your sister. Everything's okay now.

She's okay. Yes. They mean she's monitoring it and all of that, but it's scary. And I'm like, so you're good then you're just, you have to do this. You have to do it one time and you'll be fine. That he said, it may not be a one and done, but it's either that or I could take medicine for the rest of my life. Got it. Okay. So I'm opting for getting it fixed. I'd rather get something fixed if I can.

And yeah, I mean, I'm just like, I just want people to, I mean, this should literally just happen yesterday or the day before. It was like, this is so new. But I mean, just especially when I'm in my 50s, I'm 54 years old now. So- No, it's scary. And you have to take care. And I know you know the best doctors. You're good. I feel like you have an erolodex. Dolores has an erolodex of doctors, guys. If you need a doctor, you call Dolores. Yes, call me. Call me. I'm the Angie's List for Doctors.

Yes, she is. You are a private investigator and also a doctor list. That's what I know you best as. I'm also a private investigator. I can investigate the shit out of something. I'm great at that. I retired. I don't investigate and that's it no more.

I don't care. Well, now you're good, right? You were dating for a while. I don't care. Well, now you're good, right? I'm so good. You were dating for a while. Yeah, yeah. When you're dating, you want to always be a step ahead. But now, I mean, Paul is... He's good. He's the best.

He's awesome. I love Paul. He makes me laugh. He's such a good guy. We need to do dinner. That's another thing. We need to schedule dinner. Yeah.

But before I let you go, we gotta know, I need to know what plastic surgery you got coming up next because we just had Dr. Karolak on. You did, I saw that, my love. Oh my God, Melissa. I love the billboards. Congratulations on the billboards. I love my billboards, thank you.

He's awesome, he's so great. We're actually talked about having him come on again, maybe next month with you just to talk plastic surgery for 30 minutes. So we might do that again with you sometime next month. He's like a brother to me. I trust him with my life. He's so good. He's so great. He's great. So wait, hold on now. What do you want to do next? What's this? What do you mean, Ozepik arms? Well, the truth is I just had... Okay, first let's talk about my knees. You know Renuvion? It's like... It would look like liposuction, but it's actually like it's a heat plasma

instrument that goes under and tightens the skin from underneath. So I had that done with my knees. I'm so happy. Does it work? Yes. Yes. I love Renuvion. I love it for loose skin. Okay. Yeah. But like plastic surgery, that's not plastic surgery. That's just the procedure. Well, no. That's just like a little pick me up. All right. And what do you want to do to your arms?

You want to cut your arms? Well, I wouldn't mind doing that, but I got to forget about it. I die. And you know, Joe Gorgas at all the comedy shows, he's like, Dolores did a cookie. Everybody laughs every single time they just take it because you're just so open and honest with all the things that you've done. You know, there's a backstory to me actually admitting to that because I was, it was during COVID. It was around COVID times that I had that done.

It was like the first surgery back after COVID, but there was still like, you weren't meeting people in person. And I think I had to watch what happened live with Andy, but I was still under a lot of medication when I did talk to him. And I said what I... That's not... It wasn't on my bingo card to be so honest about that one. But- I know. I was shocked you were honest. I was like, we didn't meet. But it also is inspiring because then I was like, I think I text you, which you've never given me these photos yet,

but I'm like, I'm going to need to see them before and after. I want to know the difference. They're probably the only photos you haven't gotten. No, you've sent me multiple photos. I've never gotten those. Yeah. I have to draw the line at something. Yes, I've never gotten those. Anyway, is it a good procedure? That too, yes. So right now, the top of my list is Renuvion was the skin tightening procedure I had. Amazing love. And then yeah, that other thing we're talking about that was really good too. And what do you want to do to your boobs? I think that the last time I had them done, not so great.

So I wanted just a little pick me up. I cannot. You're not scared at all to go under the knife. You got to be getting like, it's scary to go under the knife all the time. You have no fear. None. I know. You know what my biggest problem is? The downtime. I don't, I- Oh, it's the worst. Yeah. That's the worst. With the nose job. I was like, you can't, you can't, it's like, oh, it sucks. It's the worst.

Yeah, it sucks. It sucks, but it's always worth it. It's always worth it. If you do it right, would you have to come to me to find out who to go to to get things done right? Yeah, I would never ever go think about having plastic surgery without checking the doctor with you first, ever. Any doctor, by the way, when we hang up, I'm going to start texting you about a couple

doctors soon, about something else when we hang up, I'm going to start texting you about a couple of doctors soon, about something else when we hang up. So anyway, Dolow, thank you so much for coming on today. Thank you, Melissa. It was so nice to see you. We are rooting for you on Traders. I'm so excited and happy for you. And I love how much you're saying you loved it. That makes me happy to watch it because I wasn't sure if you loved it, but now I know

you do. So awesome. I love it so much that I want you to go do it. You know I just I think it's like that three weeks, four weeks, whatever it is. No, you know they asked me to do I turned down this last year, special forces like Fox five. They asked me to do that. Crazy. I said no do that. That's crazy. That's insanity. I said no to that too because I'm like, I don't think that's for me.

I think I would be, it looks like torture. Tom Sandoval did it. He said they were shitting themselves, puking. So they asked me to do it when I said no, then they then asked Tom. And he was, I guess the reality star that they ended up putting in at the time. I remember that. And see, so see, he hated it.

He hated it. Is that what he said? He said it was insane. They really pushed you so far and you want to be able, they don't feed, all you had was like a, I remember he's like, no food, you're throwing up, you're in freezing cold water, then it's hot. It's Navy SEAL training. But didn't Denise Richards do it?

I don't even know. I just read about it for five minutes and I called my agent. I was like, no, thank you. I'm good. He's like, okay. It was like... But yes, actually Denise did do it. Yes, she did. She did. And she popped both her implants. Yes, she did. She popped her implants. Yes. Yes. I just, I'm reading that. If you spoke to Tom about what he did, you will be happy you said no to that.

Oh, I can tell just by looking at it. I mean, listen, Alan Cummings seems amazing in the castle and all of that. Look, I do, I think there's definitely more glory to doing traders and I love the game. I think for me, it's just like that no access to the real world. I'm not in that stage of life yet. I think I would lose my cool just for that. You know what I mean? Like I might cheat. I might have to call home and be like, I have to call Gino and just see what he's doing. Like I'd be scared. But other than that, it looks amazing and the castle looks amazing and you're killing it. So we're going to keep rooting for you, Dolow. Thank you, Melissa. Love you so much. Thank you for coming on the display today and I'll see just playing. Bye. Ciao, everyone. Hey moms, have you ever felt like there's more to motherhood than what we're told? Then you need to check out our podcast, moms ask why.

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