On Display with Melissa Gorga - 24-Karat Goldschneider (w/ Jackie Goldschneider)

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

It's RHONJ premiere week, and Melissa invites her good friend, loving mother, and one of the realest Real Housewives out there, Jackie Goldschneider, onto the show to chat about embracing her new role on the franchise, her journey towards recovery both on and off camera, and why the bonds of some housewives (and house husbands) will never break. Melissa and Jackie also talk about the wrong games to play on social media. 

the best best thing to come out of the show when it's like long gone and over and we're old is like the friendships. All right, everybody, welcome to another episode of on display with

Melissa Gorga. You guys are going to love this one today because I have one of your favorites. She's an amazing writer. I'm Welcome to another episode of on display with Melissa Gorga. You guys are going to love this one today because I have one of your favorites. She's an amazing writer. She's an incredible mother to two sets of twins.

And she's one of the realest real housewives of New Jersey. Ladies and gentlemen, Mrs. Jackie Gold's Schneiders with me today. Hi, everyone. Hi, now. Hi, I can't believe you're a mother to two sets of twins. That's crazy. It is crazy.

Sometimes I can't believe it still. Like when I tell people still, they're like, what? Two, like no one believes it. That's a lot of work. Like when they were little, I'm like, Holy cow, you had two sets of twins. Like you never had that time

to just be alone with one. There was always two. Never. And I remember after I had Jonas and eight in my first set, I always said, I, I can't wait to see what it's like. Like I loved having twins, but I said, I can't wait to see what it's like to just have one baby at a time. And then I didn't get that. But you know, I, I love the way my family worked out.

So I'm happy. You have a perfect family. I love your family. You have the sweetest kids. They were so, I'll never forget when you first joined the Real Housewives of New Jersey. Like everybody, right? Like of course you've seen the show before and like your daughter was so cute the first time you guys came to my friend. Or she's like, hi, hi.

Oh, my god. I see. I love that. She loved you. And she was so little like my boys now are turning 15, but they celebrated their 10th birthday on the show, and I know you. Oh my premiere party last night for this first episode of The Real Housewives of New Jersey. So much fun. Just good vibes, right, Jack? Did you have a good time last night? So much fun. In fact, I told Evan, because Evan couldn't go.

And I said, I'll be home by like 10, 15, because I'm going to come home right after the episode. And I like, before I knew it, it was past 11. I'm still there. And I was having so much fun. It was past 11. I'm still there. And it was having so much fun. It was great. It was great. We had a good time. Honestly, Rachel, I will say Rachel, Rachel food is the one who threw the party because you know, she's new to this all and she wanted to have like, it's exciting, right? You remember when it first happens for you. It's exciting. You're like, holy crap. I joined. I'm going to be on like

this TV show. So she kind of wanted to do the party. I was. I joined, I'm gonna be on this TV show. So she kinda wanted to do the party. I was like, really? I wanna be home in my sweatpants with my- You see, I was very happy to be out last night because last night was a little bit hard for me. And I'll tell you, I totally was fine. You know, like it was the right decision for me to take a step back this season.

It was a right decision for me to take a step back this season. It was a hard decision. And I came to terms with it by the time we started filming, but then that first few times we were filming, I was like, well, what am I supposed to do? Like after all these years, what am I doing? What does a friend do? Like, how am I in the room, but I'm not really like in the room, you know? So, so last night, the first thing I'll say is that last night I was happy to be surrounded by so many people who I love and who

I wanted to celebrate with because I wasn't home going, like watching by myself and like, you know, just grunting, you know, which I probably would have been because when you had so much love, right? Yeah, it was like weird, but I did like today, you know, I try not to go down a rabbit hole with social media, but today some of the comments they were like, oh my god, Jackie must have, Jackie obviously felt like unimportant because she told Rachel you're not looking at me. And like, you know what, I'm gonna fucking own it. Yes, those first few times I walked in and I'm like, I'm not important anymore. And like after a few times I was like, oh wait, I'm important.

And like, I got into the groove and everything. But like, when Rachel wasn't talking to me, and I love Rachel, but like, when she wasn't talking to me during that conversation, I was like, I was so angry. I was so mad. I know, I was the one standing there, and you know how much I love you, right?

And Rachel was a friend of mine, like obviously from our kids at school and everything. And I'm like, I kind of, I felt your pain for a minute, because I knew where you were coming from. It was like the first time you've ever entered a situation and been like, wait a second, what actually, what's my role here, right? And I get that it's like a little sensitive and a little like, it's like odd.

I get it. I totally get it. And I do love and appreciate this is why I just introduce you as the realist real housewife of New Jersey, because I love that you just said that. And it's Jack, it's the truth, right? It's an awkward thing. Yeah, and I'm good with it now, but it was really awkward. And like when I said that, I was hurt and I was like,

I didn't know what I was doing. And like I went home from that scene and I told Evan, like, I'm not important. I'm not important. And like eventually, like, I realized, like, I'm just in a different role, you know? And so I got, you know, I actually had a great season and I loved this season. But that those first few rounds of filming, they were like weird, you know?

I get it. And I feel like that was our very first all cast event that we were all at. And that was the first time you were ever meeting Rachel or Vintel. No, we had the roller skating. And they were all so though, I wasn't even in that many conversations. So I was already on edge, you know? But you'll see, I think, I mean,

I haven't seen any more episodes, but within the next few episodes, I like warm up. And then I really forgot the whole friend thing by the middle of the season. No, I think you rock it. Whatever this friend thing is or whatever. I don't, I didn't sense it from you all season.

Like I felt like you were there the way you're always there. You were in every scene. You were at every, like you were on, you were just, you were with us the whole time. Like I didn't sense you not there anymore than I ever did before. I know personally, you're probably not filming as much. No, I had no personal storyline, which was probably better for me personally. This season, just to give me time to recover privately, you know. But yeah, by after like the first few weeks, I was rocking it.

So. And you're taking this time. I mean, is it, it is a little bit of a relief. No, to have like not the pressure of like the personal thing breathing down your neck. During the season, yes, although I will say I was so happy to put my story out there, but it was more effective for my recovery

to be able to do all my therapy privately. You know, I was happy to do it publicly, but being able to schedule it on my own time and go in privately and say things that were maybe a little bit more embarrassing or private. You know, being able to do that without cameras was maybe better because I wasn't doing so great until I turned a corner sometime like late summer. Right. Well, let me ask you

this. What was your impression of the episode? Like, what did you feel overall like going into it? What were your thoughts? Last night's episode or the first episode. Yeah, like last night's episode, what did you feel? Give me some of your rundown from it the way if you were just talking to me. And we weren't on this podcast right now. Right. Okay. I felt like it was a lot of fighting. You know, I don't feel like it was, I felt like it was a great episode. Because people love the drama.

You tune into New Jersey for the drama. I just, like, I feel bad because I, because you're my friend. And, like, I don't like to see you upset. And, I don't like to watch Louis call you names. And, I don't like, I don't know. I don't like, it was a little nasty for me. I don't, I didn't like seeing Jen call Dolores and old handbag. You know, like, I like, it was a little nasty for me. I don't, I didn't like seeing Jen call Dolores and old handbag, you know, like I just think it goes a little like, it gets a little like

mean. Like it's really like the whole episode was great, but it was a lot of fighting. It wasn't enough like fun stuff. And we had fun at the Roller's Skating Party. I wish they showed more fun, but it was a great episode, you know. Yeah, I had fun at the roller skating party. That's like my thing. And I feel like it's always the beginning is never as like Trump. Like at the first event is always a little bit more chill. And then by the second event, everyone's like in the groove and hearing the stories and knowing what people are saying. And that's when everything starts to really like unfolds. that's when everything starts to really unfolds. For me, even just like hearing Louis said, what he said, I'm like, wait,

I think I've at this point only been to dinner with a guy maybe three to four times like I've had. What, I feel like he just got here and to have such an impression of us and like feel, like the, you know what the funniest part to me was when Louis says that we're insecure and then cut to the next scene and Joe is literally oiling his whole body with like olive oil to pose and take a picture. I'm like, oh yeah, he's real and secure this one.

Like, you know what? Also as like if I was observing from an outside perspective, I felt like Teresa, you could clearly see that she's happy, which is great, like if I'm an outside observer, which is great. I mean, you want her to be happy, but it seemed like she got this new family, And so she's very happy to quickly replace her old family. And it's just a little bit jarring to see that. Both can coexist, and you should want. You should want everything to coexist. You don't get rid of one when you get a new one.

Right. And I think that's where it gets sad for Joe. Even more than it's sad for us and the kids, I think Joe is where, that's why, and as you know, this whole season, Joe is extremely sad. He barely films. He just doesn't want anything to do with a lot of it. And I think, you know, I don't think,

like I don't think she understands, like that's great. You can have this whole family and love your new sister-in-law's and love all of that, but you don't have, that doesn't mean you get rid of another family. I don't understand, I feel like siding when it comes to my sister-in-law is huge. It's like the side, side, side.

So you're either here or there. She doesn't know how to do both. Yeah, and it's really a show who's suffering because I mean, I was with your family last night and there's like no better family I mean your sisters and your mom and your kids like they are just salty the earth and you have such and your cousins and like I know all of them I love them and like your aunts and your uncles like I just love everyone and like you have so have so many people, but for Joe, like that's it, you know? Well, he is like, you know, so, you know,

what things work out the way they're supposed to. And you can't control everything. And look, I don't have a relationship with my sister. And sometimes it doesn't upset me that I don't have my sister, but it upsets me that my parents don't have everyone together ever, you know? So that's probably the same thing for you is like, it doesn't upset you that you don't have a relationship with Teresa,

but it upsets you that your husband has to suffer for it, you know? Exactly. And sometimes when I look at him, when he least expects it, or he doesn't even realize, I can see this sadness in his eyes. And that's the hard part. And obviously being on the show, you know, that's like, it's always highlighted. And it's so crazy. I'm seeing, I'm also seeing a little bit of like, the comments today and like,

I watch, watch what happens live last night. And I was very glad that like, you know, 80% of the, yes, like they were totally understood, you know, my side with Joe. But like, it's still, there's still like the crazy people on Instagram and Twitter that are like Relentless and like trees is putting out some I don't know tweets and or Tech snout trying to like fill in blank. I just feel like people are really chasing their tails I feel like the people on our cast who are really yelling and screaming and like all over Instagram like yelling and screaming and like all over Instagram, like savages, just trying to like defend themselves and go harder and collect their fans to like, like rip on us and go at us

all day. It's because you're spiraling, right? It's because you're feeling like you're like you're losing or you're falling or else, why would you do that? When I'm fighting back Jack, if I go in there and start fighting back and putting out my text because trust me, there's texts that people haven't seen yet either, right? But I just don't know if I want to go there. I really don't. No, I think you rise above, you know, and you also, you can be miserable if you can't let go of the show when it's not on. You know what, Jackie, all of this, it reminds me of a quote from a movie that Joe and I saw

the other day. Yeah. Like the quote was, it's a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought for speaking the truth. Oh, I love that. That is spot on. Make so much sense. So anyway. But anyway, moving on, is there any other thing you want to wrap up about the premiere before we talk about other things? I guess anything you want to get out on your side? I was very, very happy that Evan Goldsnader won the poll on Watch Your Loven's Live. 60% my apologies to Joe Gorgher because he did look very hot. But you know, my Jewish man took it. And everybody loves your husband.

Everybody, and all the men I will say looks very handsome during that shoot. They look great. Everybody loves your husband. They think he's a great guy. Everybody loves both of you guys as a couple. They really do. Well, you know, like this show and these shows,

you know, you never know what could happen. And so like I'm trying not even to like worry about anything, like people say to me, are you coming back full-time, are you going to stay a friend? I don't know. Whatever Bravo wants me to do, I'm happy because I love Bravo, I love the show and whatever happens happens. I love the episode. It was great. I want more fun and more light, but it is what it is. And it's very Jersey. And it was a very Jersey episode. And I hope people liked it.

I think people did. Okay, good. Well, can we talk about your health firm in it and how great you look and how good you're doing. Thank you. Thank you. I also know you have very strong opinions on the ozempic. I do.

Oh, I could talk about it all day. You don't even want to get me started. I mean, I, but I think people are interested in it right now. And I have a lot of friends and people who just like want to jump into it. And I was like, wait, Jackie had very strong opinions on this stuff. Oh, God. First of all, tell me how you're doing. You look amazing. Thank you. Okay. I'll tell you what the difference was for me. So when I started recovery, I was like, I wasn't eating anything. I mean, I used to save all my calories for like one meal where I was eating in front of people.

And then that's why people were like, well, I saw you eat. Yeah, you saw that one meal, right? I always saw you eat, because I saved it when we would go out, you know? So I needed to learn how to eat food. I always saw you eat because I saved it when we would go out, you know, so I Needed to learn how to eat food like I was needing anything. I was eating like air, you know anything with like Very low calories. So I

Learned how to eat like I was eating new foods and everything and I was like, but I still don't feel okay Like I hated myself. I hated what I saw. I was like, okay, like I gained a lot of weight and I was healthy and my heart rate came up and all that good stuff happened to my body. But when I was looking to mirror, I was like, and this is like a full year into recovery. This was like beginning of last summer.

I was like, I hate what I see. And I was always grabbing my body parts and I'm like, God, how do I get rid of this? What do I do about this? It wasn't until I really came around to like embracing being a bigger size and loving what I, until I was comfortable looking in the mirror and being like, this is my body and it's strong

and it had four kids and I love it. And like it's womanly now and it's doing what it needs to do until I came around to that I was not recovered, you know, and that was really what switched it for me so I'm doing great. I love my body. I love my shape. I love my new life. There's so many things that I want to tell you I took on a really big project this year. You know what it is. I get started talking about it like next week. Big announcement next week from Jackie. I'm actually that I'm very excited for you for. We're not going to say what it is, guys, but she has something very

good. But I will have a lot more to say about recovery when that happens. But I am doing great and thank you so much for that. Thank you. You've always been so super supportive and such a great friend. And that's so important that the best thing to come out of the show, when it's long gone and over

and we're old, is like the friendships with you and Margaret and you know, we're just really good friends, you know. You got really close with Jen Fessler, you guys love each other. Oh, yes. Oh my God. We're on the phone. Like I don't talk on the phones to anybody and I'm on the phone with her like an hour a day. I love her. So, um, she's so, so, ozenthic.

Yes, I need your opinion because I know you have it. And I think there are people like teeter tottering out there saying, should I do it? Should I not do it? You know, okay, give me the rap Jack. Give it to us. Here's a thing. I am not judging anybody wanting to be skinny. I get it. I fucking get it more than anybody gets it. It is like it's people's lifelong dream to be skinny. And here comes this drug where it's like a free lunch, like you just go on it and you're skinny really quickly.

And you can supposedly eat whatever you want fine. It's a fucking miracle. The reason that I have such a visceral reaction to it is because I was so sick for so long, for 18 years, like I was stuck in this massive eating disorder where I couldn't see straight and I couldn't, I was so upset if I would gain like a half a pound. If and when people have to go off of this drug,

they are going to be, they are going to spiral because you gain back, like all the studies show that you gain back, not just what you lost, but one and a half times what you lost. So if you lost 30 pounds, you're going to gain back 45, because not only does your appetite, so ozempic does a few things to you to make you lose weight. But one of the things that it does is it slows down your digestion so much that you're full. You're full from the littlest amount of food. So you're you're not only not hungry, but like you can't even look at food, you know. So you lose a lot of

weight plus it speeds up your metabolism, it burns fat, right? So when you go off of it, you're voraciously hungry, your take comes back so much stronger. So you're, you really like go into like a binge eating, but your metabolism slows down. All the things that we're working before are not like working as efficiently now. So you gained back a lot of weight. I think you had Revee Vader on your podcast, right? Did you? Yes, yes. She talked about this a few months ago.

Like she gained back one and a half times what she lost when she went off of it. My concern is that I know how horrible an eating disorder is and I'm just so afraid of what's gonna happen to all of these people who were really normal around food before and just really kind of wanted to get skinny are suddenly really not going to know. Can you imagine losing some weight and then all of a sudden like instantly going off a drug and being fat? Like it's just it's got to be so jarring

and I can't imagine, you know, you're saying if people go on this, they have to stay on it for life or else they're just they're in it. For your whole life and there's no studies on ozemic or semi-glutites, which is what the drug is, on people who, do you see Evan coming? I see Evan. Hi Evan, Evan's walking past you.

Oh, because I got my headphones on. Okay. So there's no studies on people who take it Hi Evan, Hi Evan, Evan's welcome pastor. Oh, because I got my headphones on. Oh, okay. So there's no studies on people who take it without having diabetes. You know, that's oz-e-e-f-ic. There are drugs that are not made for the diabetes, but oz-e-f-ic is the main one that people are using. And there's no studies on how it affects people's bodies

who don't have diabetes. So people are really like taking a mystery drug, they are. Yes, it's safe when you have diabetes, but it's really a new drug too. It was only studied, I think, for like, you know, 64 weeks or something like that. So I hope that people don't have any terrible reactions to it. But, you know, if and when people have to go off at this,

you're gonna have so many people who are eating disorders and that's what breaks my heart and that's why I don't want anyone who really doesn't need the drug to start it. Right, I knew that if I asked you about it, which I did just in our normal everyday friendly conversations that we have, I'm like, Jack, because I knew that you were going to do like an inside out study on this because you're into all this stuff, right? And weight loss and just you're a reader. I feel like you go in and I was like, I know Jackie's going to give me all the answers. And whether this is good or whether this is bad. But these are all I did deep dives on this. But also from a recovered person's standpoint, it's, it's very painful to, like, I have a lot of friends who are now on

Ozempit. Right? They were people that I used to go out with and I used to watch them eat and I'd say God one day I'm going to be able to enjoy food the way that you do and I'm not going to worry about every bite and I'm not going to wake up with the built-in guilt. And now I go out to those people and they don't fucking eat. They don't eat and And it's like, it messes with my head because I'm like, wait a second. You were the ones I looked to because you had such a normal relationship with food and now you don't eat. Your appetite is gone. You don't enjoy food anymore. So it's like messing with me a little bit, you know? Yeah, no, I know. And I,

listen, I'm not going to deny that I have some friends and family very close ones that are on it as well And I do worry and I say to myself like guys I hope this doesn't like when you get off it I guess there's like this maintenance plan you can go on as well But I do think there's a lot of people out there celebrities as well that are just totally denying That they are on any type of anything, but it's amazing how everyone recently is just shrinking. So Skinny Evan comes to you. Hi, they're just shrinking. Let me say hi to Evan. Hello, hi, Evan. How are you?

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I congratulate you. I congratulate you. I congratulate you. I congratulate you. I congratulate you. I congratulate you. I congratulate you. I congratulate you. I congratulate you. I congratulate you. I congratulate in. I'm not judging anyone who's on it because I get it, but I feel I'm nervous for the world, you know, because even the maintenance phase,

you have to keep taking it, you know. Right, and if you read positive things, you might have taken it, what do you think? Oh, if I, if this was around when I was a kid, I was a teenager, I would have been on it in a heartbeat. And I would have had to stand it forever. If this was around when I was anorexic, yeah. I would have taken it.

Oh my goodness. And that's scary. Oh, sure. I would have been the first one on it. That's scary. Speaking of and seeing your handsome supportive husband, how has he been through all of this? Is he like secretly happy that you don't have to do it like as much in the spotlight? How do you think?

Oh, you mean the Fred thing? Well, just to be like on the show and everything, I feel like listen, one thing about Evan, I feel like he supports you. You two together, which I'm just going to say a lot of people don't know. They like hugging kiss all the time. They're always holding hands. I feel like Evan speaks. No, you guys have a really great relationship.

Like, like, really, really, so, like, softly to you all the time. It's like kind of like, and I did too. We're good to each other. We're very good to each other. We give each other a lot of like room to do the things that make us happy. Like he very good to each other. And we give each other a lot of room to do the things that make us happy. He taught at Georgetown this year. He taught in the business school at Georgetown.

And so he left every week for 36 hours. And I was just so happy to do everything with the kids would go, and I wouldn't get out of my car for 36 hours. That was driving to practices and everything. But like, it made me so happy to see him doing something that gave him so much joy and he loved it. He's the same with me.

Like, when the whole friend thing, he was like, you know, whatever you want to do. Like, he's like, I'll be there. And every time we were filming something, I said to him, like, you know, this year, like, you have a choice. You know, you don't have to be there. And he was always there. And he always came and he always wanted to support me. You know, like, he's just the best. Has he always just been a super supportive husband

with all this? Or did it take some time to get there? Like, was he always just like? Yeah, took a minute. Now, first year, for season, really didn't want to be like a big part of it. I think he was worried that it would affect his like standing and like he's in a, you know, he's in a high position in finance and I don't think he's corporate, right? corporate. He didn't know how it would be received, but like it was received great. And like he also doesn't do anything embarrassing on the show. You know, he doesn't get fights and, you know, so he's not going to be like

Joe and embarrassed shit out of you. So he, but he loves your Joe. Oh, he loves the guys. And the guys make it easy to be, want to be a part of it because that guy group, Joe Gorgah, Joe Benigno, Frank Katania and Evan just love each other. And now what it is, they're good men. All of them are great husbands, they're great people, they're fun and they have no like, there's no like sneakiness about them. They lay it on the table. The men on Jersey really are like phenomenal.

It's like the best part of it really. People love our show, Jack, because of these men too. Like they love that. I know. I know. They love that. And then when you guys came on board, I know originally, he was like, no way. This is not for me. But then once I remember, we warmed him up a little bit. And then he would crack a joke here and there. And then he would say something funny. I'm like, oh, look at Evan. He's warming up. And then he's like, by season two, we had him. And then season three knocked him out of the park. Like he was like, uh, like he put the brakes on. And I know that was a really hard time for you.

It was like, yeah, this is not what I signed up for. So, yeah, that was, that was a rough season. Yeah. And I lost Evan Gulchnater there. I give you so much credit for forgiving a lot of that and like understanding where a lot of that came from because yeah, that was a ruthless rumor and that was like just a ruthless thing to happen at a birthday party and you were forgiving eventually about that. So, you know, God bless you because it was, it was too hard to keep it going. It was too hard to hold on.

I was, I was so sad and it was making me sicker. I was really like, it was not good for me. You know, see, so I always say that when you hold on to grief and anger, you actually become more angry. So it's like, yeah, a lot of these people and, you know, family members that were just like talking about the past 24 hours a day. I'm like, how angry? It's supposed to be hard to put a sleep at night with all that anger. Well, if the anger sits here, right? If you put the anger, if you leave the anger in your chest and you just like bury it there and let it sit there and you know, like with every breath you take that anger is a part of it, you know, so if you don't let it go and really move past, then it's you're always going to be angry. That's such a good angle.

It really is like it's such a good angle to take and I feel like I was some people are not born that way. Sometimes you have to like learn that behavior. You have to be taught to like, listen, this is not healthy. This is not going to give you the best quality life. And you can learn that behavior. But I feel like sometimes people just like, you can't learn it. Like you're born that way. And they, and they, they're born the other way, you know, and it's like they can't get out of their own way. I'll never understand like, like people bite their nose despite their face, right? And it's just like, like, it's one of those things. And I just, I'll never understand it, but I guess that's what makes the world go around. We're all different for our own reasons, you know.

Yeah, you can't control other people. So you just gotta, you gotta control your reaction because you can't control how other people gonna behave. Yeah, no, I agree. Well, listen to me, we love you so much on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. I am so excited for this, you know, release you have coming out next week.

We're not going to say anything to. I know. I'm so excited. But I am very proud of you. So I'm very happy for you. And I always think you are just like a strong, like smart. I really do appreciate you. You've always been a great friend and someone that I can trust. And that to me is very,

like you have great qualities as a girlfriend. You really, really go. Oh, thanks, Mel. Well, I love you. And you know that, you know, and I love your family. And you're gonna come out on top. You all too.

Well, thank you. Thank you. And I want to tell all the viewers of the Real Housewives of New Jersey do not feel like you're going to miss Jackie at all. This season, she's there. She's there. In your face. And season. Yes. She I know, I know the scenes that we filmed and I know that there's some good stuff coming. So exactly. Exactly.

Thank you so much for today. Thank you. You're going to be great. Anytime and good luck with everything happening next week. And you're going to be great and good luck with everything happening next week. And I'm going to see you soon. Yes, I'll see you soon. Thanks guys. Thank you.

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