On Display with Melissa Gorga - A Rose With No Thorns (w/ Whitney Rose)

Episode Date: February 1, 2024

Melissa is joined by the up-front and always empathetic Wild Rose of Salt Lake City, Whitney Rose, to talk about the reality of reality tv trolls, why accountability is a huge part of forgiveness, and how self-love is a much easier thing to find as you get older.  Melissa and Whitney also talk about how success can often change the dynamics of a good marriage, and why support is such a crucial piece to the puzzle.  This week's sponsors:   Apartments.com - The Place to Find a Place: Apartments.com Dime - High-End, Affordable Skincare: DimeBeautyCo.com , promo code: MELISSA20 (20% off) GreenPan - Toxin-Free, Non-Stick Cookware: GreenPan.us , promo code: MELISSA (30% off + Free Shipping) Peloton - Bike Rentals: OnePeloton.com/Bike/Rentals  PlutoTV - Free Streaming TV: Pluto.TV

I always say we don't have time to hear why the haters love us today. What's up everyone? Welcome to another episode of on display with me Melissa Gorgia. I'm super excited today. You guys know I love when I have housewives on and I have a juicy podcast for you today because I have such a great guest. She's a successful business woman. She's the host of the Wild Rose podcast. And I mean, let's be real. You all know her as the fan favorite on the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Ladies and gentlemen, I

have the lovely Whitney Rose with me today. Hi. Hi, wow, what an introduction. You made me blush. Oh, well good. That's what I want to do. How are you, honey?

So good to see you. Yeah, so good to see you too. You have to bear with me today. I just got a moxie laser, so I look terrifying. No, so wait, are you red? I am so red. I don't know if it like reads through the screen or not, but I've read dots all over. I see. I see. Wait, so what was that? Was that like a, is it like a fraxel? Like what kind of laser is that? You know what, to be honest with you, I have no idea. I just know that it's the only laser. Well, there's a couple lasers. I

have really bad melasma, so I have to be careful. I don't see a lot of it. Same. Wait, so do I. That's why I want to know if this is safe for melasma. It's for melasma and rosacea. So it treats, it has two different types of color, red and blue.

So it treats all of your problems, like melasma, rosacea, redness, blue veins. It gets amazing. Really? But you look like I have been walking around like a freaking freak for the last two days. I went to my daughter's soccer training last night with a new team and everyone was just staring at me because I was bright red and swollen. And I was just like, I have no shame.

You have no shame. And here is the game and I'm here for it. You just have to make the announcement. Yep. Just had a facial. We're good. Just had a laser. Like all good. And isn't it kind of funny because now you're obviously you're known over there. I'm sure you're on a hit TV show, which we are going to talk about that show a little bit later on. But is it kind of odd for you, especially like so you said last night, you went and it's a new team. So there's all new moms and like, it's like, I've noticed even for me, like once they get used to you being there, it's like no big deal. But when you enter the room and it's like all new people kind of starts all over again, right?

Yeah, it's almost it's crazy because it's you know, season four was such a big season for us. So I would say it's even crazier now. Oh, people, people kind of, you know, it's almost like that when you walk in, right? And it's like, instead of seeing the glam Whitney, it's like, here I am in all my glory after a laser treatment. Of course. You're the most beautiful of your life. Like I've just learned that I can't care about how I look all the time or you know, I've got to do me too. Like 1000% I just, I just, I don't know if it was a thing as I'm getting older or if

I'm just getting more comfortable in my skin, but I have finally stopped putting any type of like tinted moisturizer on or like any type of foundation when I go to the gym. Like I used to, and I'm a gym girl. So I go to the gym like I used to and I'm a gym girl so I go to the gym every morning almost every morning. So I used to wake up and be like, I can't just put lotion on and leave like I need to curl my eyelashes. I need to like put it the tinted voice but it would be uncomfortable when I work out. I don't want anything on my skin when I'm like sweating.

So I finally I want to say within the last year, just wake up put moisturizer on and walk out the door and just don't like I don't give a shit anymore. Even right now I don't have a stitch of makeup on. I just put lip gloss on at all times because I feel like you could fool people if you have lip gloss on that's the way to go. I always keep a gloss on my pocket. Nothing else I have nothing on right now besides my red beautiful spotty face.

But I think that that's called self love. Like you're like, I think it does come with age and experience and wisdom, but also when you become so comfortable with who you are. And I feel like housewives has really taught me that honestly. For sure. 100% Okay. With not being in full glam all the time. Like cause I used to do the same. I'm like, why am I getting ready to go to the gym?

Who am I trying to impress? It's so true. And I do think people respect, they respect us more when you walk in without the makeup on a hot mess like most moms are when they're running around in the morning with their kids or like whatever it is. And I feel like it it's just I don't know, I feel like it kind of just makes you more relatable. And it's just, it's just, I don't know, I feel like it kind of just makes you more relatable. And it's just, it's better. I took me a minute though, I used to always

always be like, I can't go without everything. So it's like, it's relieving. It is, I think, and then you find a new sense of confidence and sexiness in being in your own skin. And that is empowering as a woman, I think. For sure, for sure. Is it weird when you go to the gaze? Is everyone come talk to you? Do they ask you questions? Do they kind of respect that you're there with your kids? How is that going now? Because you've been on the show for how long?

This will be, that was our fourth season and I don't think it's officially been announced, but we are heading into another one. So. Well, I would imagine after that reunion, I don't think you're giving us any. I think we all knew that was coming for sure. Yeah, I think we're safe to talk about it because it's been all over Instagram that Monica is not coming back. So, yeah, it's been nuts. It has changed like season one, everyone was so excited to be like, are you Whitney?

You know and then now it's just crazy a lot of I Would say like in Utah around my community people are just used to it But when I go somewhere new it's definitely people want to come talk to me talk about it And what's fascinating? I you probably get this your show too, is a lot of male fans. Like a lot of husbands are tuning into housewives now. Like I'm shocked by the amount of men that come up on the sports fields and are like, you know what, I have to admit, I'm a huge fan of your show. My wife made me watch it and now I'm addicted.

All day long. If you think that happens there, could you imagine the jersey? Like the men are, it's crazy. Men are so prominent on Jersey. And obviously, you know, my husband's like, very known on this show. So like everywhere we go, it's men, it's a lot of men, you would be surprised. I feel like your show also highlights the men, I think a little bit more than the other shows. So that makes sense that like the men are watching you guys a lot too. I feel like, you know, when we incorporate the men, it kind of, it drags in the men to be able to relate a little bit.

And they like to even see like the husband and wife issues that are going on and they'll relate. Like even when Joe watches the other shows, he's like, see, you do that. Like see, like he's watching like Kyle and Mauricio right now. And little things. He's like, see what happens after time. Everybody changes. And it's like the men like to relate to what's going on,

like, you know, with you girls. Like they like to relate. And you and your husband, you guys have a very like similar relationship, I would say, to Joe and I, right? Where it was hard for you like in the beginning He was a very protective husband And it was hard to like maneuver your own found success and being on the show. Tell me about that a little bit Yeah, it was hard because first of all I before I became a housewife

I realized I had the most cushed housewife life ever Well, before I became a housewife, I realized I had the most cushed housewife life ever. Like why did I go chase bigger dreams and ambitions? Because I did, I like had my responsibilities of the home and the kids and Justin provided a very beautiful life for us. And he's always been in support of me though. Like when I wanted to go back to school,

when I wanted to start my business, when I wanted to do the show,, when I wanted to start my business, when I wanted to do the show, he's always been my biggest cheerleader, but the dynamic shift was what we didn't expect to come, right? You just think that you're gonna keep growing and doing all these things and nothing will change. Right. The truth of it is, is that as I started all of this,

I'm now no longer able to dedicate full time to the children, full time to him, full time to the house. And it has been very difficult because he is 18 years older than me. So he was raised in a very like traditional family, LDS. This is the life that we know, but Justin has an open, like he's an open person. He has an open mind, open heart, and he's always, he just loves me so much that it took time, but I would say we're

at a place now where it's like 5050, like equally, it really truly is when we go to make a decision, when we view the family, it's no longer just me making decisions for the family and he making decisions financially. It's what are we going to do about the kids? What are we going to do with this property? What are we going to do with this account? Like it's really cool to see. Yeah.

Isn't that a beautiful thing? I have to say. That's a beautiful thing. And it's like, you know, it's sometimes used to like, irk me. I don't know if irk's the right way, but like the right word rather. But like, you know, it's like, did I have to get on the housewives to realize that like I needed to make more decisions and that I needed to, you know,

to expand in everything I was doing. But I'm very thankful for the TV show and for the housewives a lot of times and I'm sure you feel the same because you get into your little bubble and you don't realize that like everything is just kind of happening around you while you're holding down the fort while you're holding down the kids while you're you know you're making every life family life perfect so to speak right and making everything cute and sweet and nice so that your kids are happy, your husband lives great life, you're a great wife,

but then you're missing this little piece of something that you wanna do for you, right? So jumping on housewives kind of opened that door for me. And I feel like it's very similar with you as well. It absolutely. I've always worked in some capacity since we've been married, but never had I had to jump into the role of being a provider. I mean, last year, one year ago, I was the sole provider of the family because Justin had to sit out of his job for a year because of the show. Wow. Yeah, it's been so that it has come with its trials, but like it really has shown me that

if I can do anything I want, like if I really try, I have the confidence and the posture now to go get it. Like it's taught me to be a smarter businesswoman, to be more creative, think outside of the box and really push my strength. Because if you can stay on a house show for four years and deal with everything that comes with that, I think you can do anything as a woman.

Oh yeah. You've become a super woman. Try 14 years and then talk to me. I can't believe it because I have so many questions for you too. Feel free. Feel free. Ask me whatever you want. I feel like I just, I love your show.

I've watched you from the beginning and I just really admire the way that you've handled raising your family in the public eye with such grace and you've handled your marriage everything about your personal life you've done that so gracefully and you know I'm at the point now where my kids when I started there are 9 and 6 and other 13 and 11 and I'm at the point now where my kids, when I started, they were nine and six and now they're 13 and 11.

And I'm like, how do you protect your kids in this process? From the fans, social media, the haters, all of it, right? Like, I don't know about you, but it's been interesting dynamic between my daughter and I since she turned 13. Oh, well, yes, very interesting. Well, how invested is your daughter on the show? And has it changed her life a little bit that she's a 13-year-old girl at school on TV?

How is that growing? That's exactly where the hard... She loves to film. She loves the process. But what's hard now is the kids at school will come and talk to her about things I've said or done, things she did or said on the show, they'll pull up old pictures from Instagram. And it's just become she's, you know, learning how to have that, like, what we have not caring what people think that resilience,

but geez, I'm like, how, how can I keep moving forward and protect them? It's hard. Honestly, I feel like I've been navigating that for many years now. I think each child is probably it's individual right for each child because some of them I like, like for instance, my Gino he could care less. He doesn't want to know anything about the fame about the show. He's an athlete like he actually like doesn't want to walk around the school with me and everyone looking at me He's not into that where I feel like Antonia is a little bit more like she's cool about it And so is Joey, but Gina was very like we do not want the attention We do not want like we're not the housewives family like like he's just not into it

So I feel like with every kid you kind of have to figure out the balance. But if I can give any advice, I'd say, like I constantly teach them that the outside world is the outside world. Like it has nothing to do with us or how we function our family and that they know what a hater is, right? They know how to handle a hater.

They know to ignore it. They definitely know not to believe everything they read. So they're very good at like, and obviously there's a lot of stuff about us in the press constantly, right? So yeah, she especially in Tony, I feel like she's older and more in tuned with like Instagram and all of this, like for instance, I'll give you a perfect example. I'll never have her block, like we never really discuss like block this hater, do do this do that But once in a while, they'll be a bad one right like a real bad one

That's like then the kind that like wakes up in the morning and doesn't stop until they go to sleep Like it's become their literal job to be a hater on me or my family or whatever it might be So when I see one like that, which I saw one actually today I which I wasn't even aware of, I, I text her and I said, block that account because I don't want them ever saying anything to her. I don't even want them watching what she does, you know, so very rare, but I do tell her, I'll be like, I don't like this account, block it and she will, and she blocks them, you

know, but she's also 18 and she's a little older. So I feel like she gets it. She's she's very good at like just brushing it off. She's like, oh, please. And she also realizes that if you put a post out and this is advice for you to Whitney because I think as housewives We all do this. We'll put a post out, right? There will be two thousand positive comments two thousand everyone. We love you. You're the best. Yadi. And then there's like three negatives. And what do we do? We pay attention to the three negative people that like wrote something on this post, right? When there's 3000 positive

comment, it's a terrible. So it's if you do notice the same name, which I'm sure you've seen this, the same person, the same person, just get rid of them. And like, you're almost helping the hater as well, because they're obviously obsessed, right? They're fixated. So it's like, here, go live your life. Now you don't have to watch me anymore. Go, go figure yourself out. You know, honestly, the best thing that Instagram has done is when you block one of those haters, it blocks any account they create in future, which is amazing. How great is that? I think we had, I know my way around Instagram trolls.

We've had a major problem in Salt Lake City with them. Oh, I can't wait to talk about that. I'm like, I am like foaming at the mouth to get to that part of the conversation. And I went, Oh my God, is this your puppy? Yeah, this is my puppy. She was chewing up my son's game. So I had to. She's so cute. What kind of dog is that? He's a cavapoo. This is Rosie. Hi Rosie. My sister has a Rosie, the same exact dog, only big.

So cute. I have a big one too, but she is a handful. Oh my gosh. she's so cute. Does she eat like your high end shoes? That's what little dogs usually do. Oh my gosh, no, but look what she just did. She just chewed up an Xbox cord. Oh no!

Oh my gosh! That is so, she's so cute though. She's worth it. Just get another cord. Yeah. I would keep her crate, but she barked through the whole thing. So Unbelievable It's fine. Don't worry. She's adorable. But anyway, I mean to get back to this whole thing

I do think it's unfortunate because our kids are like an extension of ourselves and I think I think some like really mean people think They can go through our kids right to get to us. So we do really need to protect our kids and just teach them how to avoid people who want to do nothing but hurt us and be able to see that that's like a red flag and that's a bad person and almost like not feel sorry for yourself feel sorry for the person that's doing that like they're obviously not living the best life and they're fixated on you and and I always say like they're not truly your h. And, and I always say like, they're not truly your hater because if the whole feed is written about you, they're your

love, they're upset, they, they are entertained by you. They don't think you're boring. They don't think you're any of the things that they say because they literally talk about you night and day. So find it as a compliment. I've, I've taught my daughter that. So as your daughter gets older, tell her these things. It works, you know. We have a saying in our house after I had a really hard season. I started saying, uh, cause Bobby wanted Instagram. She, this is back when she was like 12, 11, she, she really wanted Instagram.

And she has Instagram. I just never attack her because it's only her friends, right? I control who follows who follows her. Still I have full access to that. But I are saying I always say to them, if I find myself going down the rabbit hole and getting distracted or if they're hearing something from friends, I always say we don't have time to hear why the haters love us today. Oh, I love that.

I love you. But that is such a true statement. Like, we don't have time to why they screenshot our face in five different ways and put it up and set like just leave that be. We don't have time to hear why the haters love us today. I love that. Oh my God, love that quote. Such a good quote. This podcast is sponsored by Green Pan. Guys, you know the feeling you have when you're cooking a delicious dinner and all of a sudden the fear sets in that this beautiful meal is gonna be

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I feel that watching this like Monica really brought that level for me of like, you know what it is? It's that like talking to a wall situation where it's like anything that you say it like the person's not understanding or it's like they're going to twist it and there's no there's no like real form of communication and it was driving me crazy like the way whole, first of all, are you in shock that she got fired? Were you expecting it? Um, I mean, I did not know what was going to happen, but I'm, you know, it's an unfortunate

situation, but I'm glad she did because people like Monica, she trolled us for four years, was obsessed, stalked us, followed everything we did, curated her entire storylines around us, right? So that's to me is like, if you stand for that, then anyone can come on and do that. And I mean, as someone who's come on as Whitney Rose shared my real life, what I go through every year, every season, I'm not making it up. I'm just sharing what's coming in and out of my door at the time. Right? That's what housewives are supposed to do and what it's supposed to be. And I just

want to say like Bravo to Bravo for really taking a stance on this and saying like, listen to all of the other franchises and people troll accounts, like, don't think that this is what you're going to do when you're going to become a real housewife. Like, Bravo, Bravo. I'm so happy that they did that because they're really setting a president's on like, you know, right? They're like really making their mark there. Like this is unacceptable and we'll never do this again.

You know, I'm really grateful Bravo protected us and had our back because we've been through a lot. We went through it with Jen. We went, I mean, we saw like cities had a lot going on, right? With issues, especially with online stuff with bullying on Instagram, among the cast. So I'm so grateful that Bravo protected us and said enough is enough. And I love your wall analogy because it literally whenever she's involved in a conversation, it was like bouncing a ball off the wall, right? It just comes like, yeah. And it's like, I had a fast forward through my own reunion because I could not take her and Lisa screaming at each other the whole time.

Like it. Oh, listen, I know exactly what you're saying. and Lisa screaming at each other the whole time. Like it, ugh. And listen, I know exactly what you're saying. It's, there's no ending to the conversation. So it's like when you are dealing with a situation where no one, it's like talking like to a wall. I don't know how else to explain it. Cause it's like, there's never going to be an ending

because you're not getting through. And there's never really like a full adult conversation going on. So it's like, it's hard. And that's how I kind of felt when you guys were discussing things with Monica, because I was getting annoyed. Like, I wanted to host that because I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, like, I didn't get an answer yet. At like, I feel like she would kind of beat around the bush on a lot of the answers. And I'm like, no, why is Andy not like I, I'm not accepting that answer. I need to understand like why she did these things. Like she just kept putting it on the other people with this account, but it wasn't like, I wanted her to take full accountability. Like I did this and like, I feel like she didn't say that, right? Well, that that was the hard thing is like, she came in with zero remorse, took zero

accountability, and she wasn't sorry. She said she'd do it again. Right. And, you know, she even went as far as thinking she's become become iconic by bringing a burn book. Right. And, you know, here's people right now are really coming after Salt Lake. And one of the biggest things that I see every day is, how can you forgive Heather who lied to you for a year or two years, you know, however long it was, but you'll, you can't forgive Monica. Well, yes, the black eye situation. Heather lied about it.

I get why I don't like that she did it, but Heather took accountability. She sat there and answered everyone of Andy's questions. Right. Monica sat there and blamed everyone else. She never took accountability for yes, she was a part of the account. Yes. She stalked us and she never, she wasn't sorry. She said she wasn't, you know what? And what Heather was lying about was also something that had to do with herself. It wasn't about her

hurting everyone else, right? So it's a little it's much different than like, someone lying, but they've actually been torturing you for the last four years. Heather was not torturing you guys. She wasn't being fully honest, but she wasn't hurting you either. So it's a big difference. There's a big difference there. Yeah, and there was a big legal side to the black eye as well. So I get why Heather did what she did.

Like, I understand whether anyone likes it or not, you can see where she's her point of view, right? Cause she explained it. So do you remember this Vontiz account? Like, do you remember things that used to say to you, like specific things that would this be an account that you would notice and be like, who is this evil human? So not, not out of the gates.

No, not at all. In fact, they were never really rude about me in the beginning. It was all about juncture exposing juncture. Got it. I went through. So I never even followed at the account. I never engaged with the account. If they said something extremely nice, I hearted

the message maybe three times or something. They were good to you. They were nice. They were nice to me. However, it was what behind the scenes, there was a few things they posted that, um, that weren't, but they weren't anything that I, I mean, a thousand keep you up and I think you weren't one of the people that this account was like trolling. But here's the problem is that account allegedly is related to two other accounts that were relentless against me, my husband, my daughter, my marriage, my business. So you know, it's so frustrating. He said she wasn't a part of those, but there's enough like evidence, if you will, to believe that she was in some capacity or knew

about it. And, you know, I don't know. But it was also her best friend turned on her. And that's how we got all the information, right? Her Tanisha. So I got to see the text messages and DMs between the group of them. And I don't care what the account posted, what Monica said about me and messages behind my back is what I was like, okay, I'm glad I found out now because this would have all like, this would have come back and bit me later. You don't like you don't like me. You're you made all this up to be my friend to get on the show. You can't listen. It's like they can't hire actresses to be she's literally coming in her like her role. She thinks she's coming in like her acting position and she's like

planning it out with her mother that she hates. It's just the most bizarre. Like, I cannot handle it. Talk about her mom because, you know, always sensitive here because I do have a very dysfunctional relationship with some of my family members and I had to stop talking to my father because it's so toxic. Wow. But, and I haven't talked to him for two years. So I get what that looks like.

And that's why I had empathy and sympathized with her and really gave her a chance because there's all these red flags and all these rumors about her. But I ignored them and just focused on getting to know her as she presented herself. But her mom, like, who do you think wanted me to house life more her or Linda her mom? I mean, they both equally thought this was like their big break, I think like I, I'm not sure who wanted it more. I think they're in like a competition type of relationship. I think it was sad to watch that I did with her like if I didn't know all of the other things she's done wrong, I would say like hurt people hurt people, right? So I do see that in her and

I see her just never being taught how to treat people nicely because she was never treated nicely. Well, it's hard though. I guess what I'm trying to like get at is it's like hard to believe anything that she says now. Because I hear that her and Linda are just fine. Like I, yes, the word on the street. Yeah. So it's like, I don't know. I'm just, I wish Monica the best. I wish Linda the best.

I hope that Monica's girls are doing well and we'll see what Monica's next chapter is, but you can't sustain lying on the show. Some people do, some people do for a while, but it all- You cannot, you always get caught. There is no way. The truth always comes out between the show, between the Instagrams, between there's threads, there's, there's just too many avenues now, like just forget it.

Just come on and be you and own your shit. That's it. It's like, there's no other way around it. There's just not, not in this day and age. I don't even know how people like, like people know every move everyone makes, there's cameras everywhere. There's like, you know, I said that to my mom the other day I'm like hat. So when daddy used to leave the house

I'm like you had no cell phone no people like how did you know what time he was gonna come home for dinner? Like how do you know worry it like she's like you don't you just wait for them to come home? And like and I'm like and then they just walk in the door whenever they walk and it's just so Crazy to me like I don't even remember that life, not having the cell phones and stuff. It's like insane. No, I know. I, I mean, I got a cell phone when I was 17. Yeah.

But I do remember the days where we had to call like, I call my friends house. Be like, hi, is Melissa home? Yeah. Okay. I ride my bike over. Those were the days though. Like I, I, I miss that so much. I miss that so much.

That's like, but it's true. You can't do anything anymore. Like everyone's always, especially I can't imagine being in your shoes, cause just four seasons in already. I know I'm being photographed and filmed when I'm in public. Yep, when you don't even know it. Like when you do not even know it.

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I mean, you could talk as little as much as you want about it. Yeah, no, it's such. I thank you for asking because I just recently lost my grandfather. Um, his funeral was last week. And I, it just, it is sad who's 92, but it was beautiful in a sense because I got to remember the legacy that I come from. So I, um, my mom's side, both of her parents, from like more of a pioneer family. So my family really was responsible for building Utah. Like they came across the plains, which is,

founded American for Pleasant Grove, like a bunch of the, um, all of the lands here in the general like hundred miles my family owned. Oh my God, wow. It's pretty crazy. It's pretty cool. Farmland, yeah. So my, you know, my grandpa was born in a chicken coop.

He was, had nothing and he built this huge legacy of farming. He's a cattle rancher. He ran 600 head of cattle until he was 92. He bred race horses. So he really went from nothing to having a legacy. I mean, we're talking for, I'm the fifth generation of a Mormon pioneer family. I'm named after a Mormon pioneer who came across the plate

and died giving childbirth. So I would say, yeah yeah I'm no longer Mormon. I grew up very Mormon. I was devout. I was the Amal-i Mormon they call me. I would do everything right. I would did everything. Dot in my eyes, cross my t's, mind my cues. And when I was, in fact, when I was 18, I had the opportunity when I graduated high school, some of my girlfriends were going to Maui for a senior girls trip. And I chose to go on a three, three week church history tour. Wow. So I got on a bus and I drove all the way from Utah, all the way to Palmyra, New York and

back and went to every church history site along the way. So that same night though, I came home and had my first beer. Okay. There's no balance here. Like what just happened? So that confused me and I started down the path of, wait, do I really believe this or is this just what I've been told I need to do? Right. Am I seeking validation because I'm not getting it at home? Am I just finding that validation from church? It's feeding me that I'm getting all of my validation and approval from my church leaders and my peers that way. And balance and structure.

And it's like, oh, I'm part of something that loves me and important and this is my faith. And I get that. It was like escapism. I was escaping in the church. It was like escapism. Like I was escaping in the church as like escapism. So it was like, I really appreciate the years I spent, but I also had a lot of years of hard times and some abuse happened and things like that. So I would say, you know,

I have left that I haven't been active for 16 years, 17 years, and I have removed my name from the records, which was devastating to my family given our heritage. Right. But for me, that was the final step for me to have closure on the past. But going to my grandpa's funeral, it's like, yeah, I am very proud of my family legacy and my ancestors. I would not be walking the path I walk had they not had the courage and faith to do what they did, even though I don't believe in the doctrine. Right. But I believe in the hardworking people.

That's where my entrepreneurism comes from my hard work ethic and my resilience. I would that's in my DNA. Well, it's a beautiful thing that you figured that out and know where you want to stand and know what your faith is right now. Is your husband the same? Are you guys the same or how does that go? Yes, he was born and raised LDS. He in fact was the first person

in his entire family ever. Wow. Yes. Generation upon generation. So, and it's been harder for him. He's a little bit, I would say further behind on the journey of it being concrete for him that he is no longer LDS. He, he was actually, I removed my names, my name from the church and he was excommunicated. Got it. So, you know, it's the difference of men and women. Men hold the power in the church. So he wasn't following the rules. So he got kicked out. Oh, that's how that happens. Okay. Yeah. And I was, I wasn't following the rules, but they wanted to keep me. Okay. Okay. So they were like, no, we like her. She's good. We're keeping her.

Thank you. I wanted to ask you, you know, I didn't know how much you wanted to talk about it, but I was interested in that because I just find the whole, you know, it's very interesting. Anything that's out of my faith, I am always curious about other faiths and how they go and the thought process on everything. So, yeah, I'm very spiritual. I would say that I'm raising my kids to believe in God higher power something We definitely we live in a gratitude mindset and you always give the gratitude back to your creator So for example, I prayed a higher power my daughter praised a heavenly father and my son praised to Creator Wow, so she's like a different language, but we're all saying the same thing. Wow, that's beautiful. Yeah. And we've been going on and off throughout the years to non-denominational Christian church.

Okay. And my kids, my kids actually love it. They love going for like the music and that's awesome. I love that. Okay, good. Well, thank you for sharing. I was very curious and I was like, I didn't know if you would want to, you know, really talk about or not or like to push anything. But I was so interested.

Very open about it. Okay, good. You know what? You and I, I feel like you and I met at, we didn't meet at BravoCon for the first time, right? But we, we hung out there and we did a panel together. And I was like, I could just tell you're, you're a girl's girl. And I like, I loved you from the start. We had a great panel. Who are we on with? Like we were with Gigi and Lindsey Hubbard, right?

Yeah, and Gina from Orange County. And I love her too. I just had her on the podcast too. She's so awesome. I love her. I feel like she's, I don't know, she's like a New Yorker. She is a New Yorker, but I love her. I think she's awesome.

I just had, did you see Watch What Happens Live? I need to, oh, I want to clarify this up. I had somebody just want to watch what happens live for Potomac. She was a new housewife that I guess this was her first season. It was her first Bravo con and I have to admit I haven't watched the Potomac housewives in I feel like that I like the Potomac housewives a lot. I just haven't seen like the most recent season or two. I have been, and her name was Inika. And she went on Watch What Happens Live, and she said that she didn't have,

like I guess one of the questions was, it was your first Bravo Khan, and who was the most dismissive? And she said, I hate to say this, but I want to say Melissa Gorgha. She's like, but Joe Gorga was so amazing. So I was like, oh my God. And everybody was like sending that to me.

And I was like trying to figure out the situation because it's so unlike me. That is like, I would never be purposely rude to anyone. You know, if anything, I just feel like there's so much going on at Bravo Con. And I will say Joe is known to like have a conversation and keep going and going while I'm like always tired in my feet her and I want to like keep it moving so I can see that. But so I found her on Instagram. I DM'd her and I was like, I apologize. I am so sorry, I would never be rude to a newbie or not give you time or say hello.

And she was so gracious and so nice. She came back and she was like, Melissa, you probably didn't even realize my husband was talking to Joe and they were talking and you walked over to Joe and then I walked over to my husband, but you were kind of like, you just kind of like retired and walked away. And I was like, I apologize. Like I didn't even realize I did it. And sometimes, you know, it's a lot because like, I feel like everyone knows us, right? But we don't necessarily know everyone else. So it kind of puts us in like a position where,

you know, if I knew that that was her, of course, I would have spoke to her. I would have spoke to anybody, but you never really know the situation. So I just want to clarify that on my podcast. I clarify it because it's so hard because you know, I hate when we get asked those questions because it just sets us up to pin us against each other. But it is true like outside of the house life shows, if there's other shows that maybe I don't watch as regularly, it's hard to like, though there's higher turnover on, right? So it's hard to know. Yes, I don't know all the new people.

And I'm sure like, who knows? Sometimes I'm like in my head, I'm thinking about something. It's BravoCon, it's freaking chaos to begin with. So it's like, and you want to give everyone attention, right? You want to talk to everyone and every fan. And it's like, you get, it's exhausting. So if you hit someone at the wrong moment when they're in their head and they're just walking away

Like who knows but I felt terrible. So I just wanted to clear that up that we we did message each other And that was the situation and it was fine for anybody who anybody who was listening. No, I'm not rude right Whitney How was I when I first met you? Yeah, I recognized you it was the very first Bravo con that I went to okay In New York so two years ago. Okay. We were at the Ganservor and you were in the lobby and I instantly recognized you and Joe. And I just came up to you and I said, Hey, I now that I've been at BravoCon for one day, I totally get it. You don't want to talk to me right now. I just have to tell you that I do love you and I've always been a major fan and next time I'm in, I want to come to Jersey and see your store.

Oh, you're so cute. You're so nice. And then Joe is, I could tell Joe was dead. He's just staring at me and he's like, Hey, this next Bravo con. He, it was exactly what you said. Um, he wouldn't stop talking to Justin. It was so amazing. He, he wouldn't stop talking to Justin. It was so amazing. He, he and Justin were having a great time and yeah, you and I like just went off. I went to one corner. You went to another.

I'm like, I got to sit down and just be alone for a minute. Yeah. See, it's like, it depends on the time of day you hit someone up at Bravo con. I will say like, cause it is, you don't, you don't know something. You, they could have just walked past somebody that it startled them or they didn't like or someone could have just said you just don't know there's just so much going on. So it's like you hit Joe at the right time you will be invited to Sunday dinner because that's Joe. Yeah, I it was he was so amazing. We ran into him a lot over Bravo Khan and it you know, Justin lives for

those moments because he you know, the dudes just want to be with the do of course. Yes, especially like the cool dudes right. You were so nice and I met you and it was like late. It was at the end of a long day. It was late night. And I think you even DM me back after because I was like, I want to get prism into your store. Majillary line. Oh, okay, good. Yeah, you did. You did.

And I got your team's information and I know now we're fast forward a year later, but I barely missed the the the whole like scuffle in the lobby. Remember? Oh my gosh, don't even remind me. What a shit show. Away from that. That happened right after I saw you. What a shit show.

Right, so that's why we were probably just staring into space. That was very late night in the hotel. That's so funny. Oh my god, it's so crazy that this season that's about to air. We actually touch on that Bravo con, which is like, feels like forever ago at this point. That's, it's so crazy. But anyway, Whitney, thank you so much for taking the time to come on today. I think you're awesome. help solve a lot of problems. And I think many of us learn how to practice empathy from you because you're, you're great at that. So guys, make sure you guys check out Whitney's podcast, the Wild Rose podcast. And you know what, we need you need to come out to New York, we need to go to

dinner, we need to hang out, you need to come to envy, like you said, originally, we need to do all these things. Yeah, I'm coming. I keep telling Julius, I someone to come to the salon and have him do my hair. Yes. So it will hit you up when I come out. And I would love to give your listeners a discount code for Prism, if that's cool. Go right ahead. Oh my God.

On display, 20% off. Yes, guys. On display, 20% off. What's the website? Prismlifestyle.co. Well, please soon you'll see it in envy and the new spot. Yes, of course. You know what? Let's talk about that. I'll I'll shoot you a text when we're done here. And everyone we all need to remember Whitney saying we

don't have time to hear why the haters love us today. So with that, thank you for coming on. We'll talk soon guys. Don't forget to go to the website, use code on display to get 20% off her gorgeous jewelry. And thanks for chatting with me today. We'll I'll see you soon. Bye. Bye. Bye. Yeah. Oh my gosh, my gosh, Brooke, we're gonna miss our flight.

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