On Display with Melissa Gorga - Ashore The Jersey Shore (w/ Joe Gorga and Nicolas Marco)
Episode Date: July 11, 2024It's a little family reunion down at the shore as Melissa invites Joe and her cousin Nick onto the show to talk about family members crashing vacation plans, the behind-the-scenes happenings of Nick's... wedding on RHONJ, and the very strange tactics that some newbies use to climb their way up in the Bravo world. This week's sponsors: Dime Beauty - High-End, Affordable Skincare: DimeBeautyCo.com , promo code: MELISSA20 (20% off) Liquid IV - Quick, Convenient, Easy Hydration: LiquidIV.com , promo code: MELISSA (20% off!) PlutoTV - Summer of Cinema: Pluto.tv (Free!) Progressive - "Name-Your-Price" Tool: Progressive.com Sono Bello - Micro Laser Fat Removal: SonoBello.com/Melissa (Spectacular Summer Savings!) ZocDoc – Easy to Access, Trusted Doctors; One App Away: Zocdoc.com/Melissa
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Shine for the stars baby! Don't shine for the rocks! No no no! Go up baby!
Joe I like that! Shine for the stars not the rocks!
Okay baby doll!
Hey hey hey guys welcome to another episode of On Display with Melissa Gorga.
Anne, Anne.
And hold on.
I have a few guests with me today, but I just, you know, I want to have my moment to say
hi to my Melissa-ners without the two extras that I brought today.
But I've blessed you guys with two of my favorite men that I have with me today.
We are actually down at my shore house.
I have Joe Gorga with me today.
Hi, Joe Gorga.
What's up, what's up?
The one and only.
The one and only.
And I also have my favorite cousin, Nick Marco in the house.
The favorite.
You're gonna get a lot of shit for that.
You know what, you're like the only boy. I mean, that doesn't live in Virginia pretty
much, right? I mean-
Good recovery. Good recovery.
I'm allowed to say that because you can be like the favorite boy cousin. All of our cousins
are girls, right?
Yes. Now it's true.
I mean, all of our cousins are girls basically. But what's up, everybody? What's up, Nick?
This is so spontaneous. I'm now doing, we're doing the three of us and this is typical Gorgafashion.
Every second something changes and I'm now helping them with the cameras and now I'm
here being part of the podcast between the two of them.
So it's very exciting.
You know guys, I'm used to doing my podcast in my podcast room where I'm all set up and
the lighting's correct.
I am traveling a lot this summer and I did not want to skip out on my Melissiners and
not give you episodes.
So I brought all of my podcast equipment down to the shore house.
So we are currently looking at the bay.
What bay is this, Nick?
What is this called?
The Barnagat Bay?
Barnagat Bay.
You're the smart one.
I think that's probably wrong. I don't actually, I don't know. No, I think this? The Barnagat Bay? Barnagat Bay. You're the smart one. That's probably wrong.
I don't actually, I don't know.
No, I think this is the Barnagat Bay.
Are we looking at the Barnagat?
Ever since I moved to Asbury Park,
I've like lost all sense of my Ocean County knowledge.
It's terrible.
Oh God, Joe, this is the Bay.
Shame on you guys.
You guys grew up here and you don't even know
where you grew up.
I think it's the Barnagat Bay.
I know where the Pacific River is in the same county river. You mean the
Passaic River, whatever it is. I know. I know where that is. You
guys don't know. It's a shame. Yeah, for my listeners out there,
I'm wearing full beach gear today. I have my beach little
like take that off. What the hell you weren't there for?
Take that off. A little beachy today for our beach podcast.
But yeah, we're down the shore and we just kind of decided instead of doing two separate
podcasts, we're going to mesh it into one big podcast.
I figured let's just all give our opinions instead of like split it up.
So I'm excited.
First off, Joe, how are you doing, honey?
How's life? I'm doing great, babe. Everything's good. You off, Joe, how you doing, honey? How's life?
I'm doing great, babe.
Everything's good, you know.
Living the dream.
I woke up this morning, you know.
Eyes open, freedom, happiness, I'm good.
Tell everybody how crazy you are.
We live like an hour and a half from our shore house
to our house up north in Franklin Lakes.
And like, he just drives back and forth,
like it's nothing.
He's like, I gotta go to work. He gets up five o'clock we're out drinking we're out at
dinner we're out doing whatever the night before he literally will get up at
five o'clock in the morning drive home this was what yesterday and then he
drives back in time to go to the beach with all of our friends it's like
insanity. You are a special human with your like work. Got to work honey you
know this you know you got to keep it going.
Right?
Like you're a little special that way.
When the cat's away the mice will play.
What does that mean?
That sounds like you're going to be naughty somewhere.
What the hell did Nick, what did that mean?
Like are you serious?
No, he's literally a savage though.
I will give him like, what did you do?
You went to, would you drove up north today?
Yeah.
Oh Jesus.
Yeah. He's amazing in that way.
He really is like energy wise.
I try to be on his level.
It's almost impossible.
Yeah, it's weird.
To match Joe Gorgas energy is next level.
Even his like one thing that's crazy and Nick, you can vouch for me on this.
Even the way he can handle his alcohol
and get up at five o'clock the next morning.
It's insane.
It's insane.
There are no hangovers.
There are no, it's crazy.
And you'll do shots with these guys
if they make you do shots.
Now the new thing is whenever we see people out at a bar,
if we ever run into fans, everybody wants to buy Joe a shot
because he just comes off as the party guy.
So now he never says no, where I will kindly decline, Joe will be like, sure, sure, of
course I'll do a shot with you.
Of course I'll do a shot with you.
And I look at him at the end of the night and I'm like, wow.
And he just gets up in the morning, it's nothing and goes to work at 6 o'clock in the morning
and I'm like, it's insanity.
I got to keep that image going, babe.
I can't deny the shot. You're allowed to. No, no, no, deny it. Even if women come up to me and they're like, it's insanity. I gotta keep that image going, babe. I can't deny the shot. You're allowed to like.
No, no, no, deny it.
Even if like women come up to me,
like, can we have sex?
I'm like, yeah.
Joe, no, Joe, oh my God.
You sat like, so you see what I mean?
This is where you lose people and you confuse people
and they're like, huh, is Joe a good guy
or is he just kidding?
Like, they're not sure.
It's called laughter, honey,ian. I say shit to her.
She gets crazy. Oh my god. If a girl says, comes out to me, I really want you Joe. You're
so handsome. I'm like, all right. I can't deny. I have to know. Melissa will kill me.
She'll literally kill you. But yeah. He's teasing. He's just teasing, of course. No! Yeah. What?
Well, I'm happy to have you both in the room today
because before we get into, obviously,
I had such a reaction from all of my fans,
from everyone on Instagram, the DMs, the emails,
the messages that I received from Nick's wedding
and Joe officiating it was, guys, so overwhelming.
I don't know if I've ever had something that impactful other than, obviously, the christening
and milestones that happened in our lives.
But this was a huge milestone with you guys and Nick for allowing the show to actually
film your wedding.
So I want to get into it. So I wanna get into,
so just know that we are definitely gonna discuss that
and you'll know why you didn't see more of the wedding.
You'll know the little bit of behind the scenes
of Joe Gorga practicing to do this
and really just like how there was a little drama going on
at the wedding as well, even for our production.
Like production came to me at one point
and they were like,
Melissa, we don't know what to do.
Like, should we just leave?
And I'm like, so we are going to get into that and how
stressful it was for production as well.
I actually felt so bad for my cameraman and I mean,
my production, you know, our show runners were like,
Melissa, what do we do?
So we're going to give you all the- It was stressful for me. Forget, our show runners were like, Melissa, what do we do? So we're gonna give you all this.
It was stressful for me.
Forget about the show runners.
And Joe, Joe was extremely stressed as well.
And we'll get to that, it was bad.
We're gonna get to this all
and we're gonna like give you a little behind the scenes
of what went down at this wedding
before the wedding even started.
But before we get into that guys,
I need to talk about like this situation
with a real housewife of Dubai that just seems to
constantly want to mention my name she just wants to mention my name when I have no idea why I don't
approach her I don't follow her I don't know her we were the same party once for Two Teas in a Pod with Tamara and Teddy had a party
once at BravoCon and I believe Chanel was there.
But I just have no idea why this woman just constantly is analyzing me, wants to put my
name in her mouth.
It's actually really confusing for me to figure out why she's doing this.
The only thing I can think of is listen,
it's, you know, I've been here a long time.
I've been on Bravo for 14 years.
Jersey is one of the big franchises.
I don't play in the mud.
I don't randomly call out other housewives
on other franchises for absolutely no reason.
But I'm a little lost, what did she say?
We're gonna get to that. But I don't I don't call out other housewives for no reason on other franchises
I it's not my style. It's not what I do. It's not the way I look for a clout
I do get though that maybe
That's how other people need their clout or they need to come for the for the big dogs that have been here for a long time
And I do think she's probably trying to please someone too people need their cloud or they need to come for the big dogs that have been here for a long time.
And I do think she's probably trying to please someone too.
But with all that said, she said, you know, she wants to keep my name in her mouth for
some reason.
She's talking about my followers and the fact that I have so many more followers than a
lot of the Housewives and much more than a lot of my cast members.
And she's questioning that.
And what annoys me about that is I built this platform of authenticity, off of showing you
guys my real life.
And if you're going to come at me about my honesty or my authenticity. It's just something that's been here from day one for me that I've always been very real with the fans
Whether it be on the show or whether it be on Instagram
I think people need to realize that people met my children also at a very young age. I have built a
Whole entire store a multi-million dollar store
a whole entire store, a multi-million dollar store, from the ground up as a young mom with three kids
that the fans have watched me grow
and I have marketed that into what it is.
So at some point I think I just should get a little credit
that I might just be good at what I do
and that when you give relatable content,
you know, the followers come.
So I don't know guys, like what do you think, like why do you think this woman is just calling
me out?
It's crazy because I actually love her cousin.
Her cousin is Uba from the New York Housewives and I think that she's like the sweetest,
the best and I just can't figure out why this woman, other than the fact that I know she's
been to my sister-in-law's wedding
She's friends with Jen Aiden, but that's just weak like I this there it is. No, but she's a strong woman
She's actually a really strong woman. She's she's not a pushover
You know, I just started watching that show and I and I actually enjoy watching the show. So I'm like
What is her reason for just like saying that why do I
… She's questioning why I have more followers even than Erika Jayne. Well, I was on TV like
three to five years longer than Erika Jayne. Maybe they don't have a husband that's got
pythons like this. You know what I mean? You know what? That's why I have more followers.
They want to look at Joe's muscles. Don't you guys know? It's because they want to look at Joe's muscles.
And listen, I know this could be a tad bit petty and this is why I don't do this.
This is why I don't go tit for tat.
You guys know me and my fans know me.
I mean, a lion never turns its head when a small dog barks.
Okay, let me just say that.
And it's not my style to do that,
but I feel like to completely ignore
someone making this accusation against me,
and it's not the first time,
so I'm starting to realize it's a pattern
of who says these things.
And let's just take note,
the other person who realized that I have more followers
than the rest of my cast members was Alexia from Miami, who was also a very dear, great
friend of my sister-in-law. So someone must be saying, you know, oh, oh God, no, the only
reason she has more followers is, you know, for these reasons,
which so weak guys, come on, we got the formula now.
All the villains hang out, huh?
I mean, these villains, they like to hang out with each other.
They're just mad at something.
That'd be happy in life.
I don't know if we can call them villains or what, but like, what's the reason?
Like, what's the reason to try to break someone
else down on something that I have built for a long time? And the two of you have watched
me build this platform for how many years, right? You've watched me roll this up and
my followers slowly grow. What do you think? Let me just jump in just because I feel for
my cousin. I think she's struggling to even even get involved with some of the pettiness.
I think that what you bring to the table when it comes to just the franchise and just being
a real housewife is that you are real.
You're very real.
And you're also, you struggle with being, you know, in a position where you feel like
you put other women down, you know, and, and, and bring them down for, for no reason.
You know, the reality is, is you're on a platform that you can grow organically by just the
authenticity as you mentioned of your content.
And you just do that very well.
And it's why when I first came on your podcast, I wanted to shout out and just commend you
how impressed I am of you, of just what you've been able to do by
being fortunate enough to be on this platform and, and what you've grown by
not bringing other people to along the way down to make that fame happen.
Because the reality is, is most people on Bravo do great, create fame for
themselves by bringing other people down and you have so I think impressively
Navigated getting to the top in a lot of ways without having to do that
And I think that there's a place for that and we need to make sure we celebrate a place for that
Because if we don't then we're basically enabling for everybody the way you get to the top
Is by putting other people down and and I'm not about that, you know
We're not about that and I'm just you know
I know that you're even struggling just to even chime in because it just feels very petty and caddy
And it's not at all shocking that you have the followers that you have and and you know
But it's a hot topic to just talk about it. Sure.
But it's not at all shocking.
And so, you know, it's a shame.
But but you know, we're going to give the little sound bite that we're going to give
in order to just discuss it.
But let's just move on, I would say.
Thank you, Nick.
Like I was I you know, I do struggle with that.
And I, I struggle even wanting to address this because I don't want to have to be petty
back and put her down but the way you explain it is perfect and it brings out a bigger conversation
as well which is just being on the Real Housewives franchise in general and just being part of
this beast.
It's a blessing like you wouldn't believe to have been one of the few ladies in the world
or whatever it is selected to be onto these franchises,
which gives you this huge platform, right?
And a voice and all of these things
to like showcase your life.
And it's true, a lot of the big stars, right?
The ones who are the breakout stars on the Real Housewives shows
have done it, unfortunately, by being the so-called villain or by being the one that's
going to do something completely out of pocket and unrelatable. And the fact that I have managed to
And the fact that I have managed to stay in charge and stay forefront as long as I have without trying to hurt someone to me, I am going to say that that's my flex.
And I think it is a flex.
And I don't think it's easy.
I do think it's hard.
And I was struggling to say that next, so thank you.
I think you guys are being so nice.
See Joe can easily go to the other side guys.
I'm not gonna go to the other side,
I just think it's embarrassing.
And I mean that to just go out there
and call somebody out that's been there already.
It's like me going calling out a big developer
for no reason and no, you gotta look up to those people
because they're there anyway, right?
And they're doing something right.
So you have to respect people in life
and it's kind of a goal.
You gotta make that goal.
You gotta, all right, I wanna achieve that goal.
Not sit there and look like a hater
because I believe it's embarrassing
and you just put yourself down.
And if you wanna grow in that aspect, shame on you, because people
are looking at you thinking you're a hater, thinking that you're jealous, you know, or
maybe you are doing it for somebody, maybe you are talking to somebody, you know, who
knows what you're doing, but that's even worse because then you become a follower.
So grow on your own, be you, man, be you, and shine for the stars, baby.
Don't shine for the rocks.
No, no, no.
Go up, baby.
That's all I gotta say.
Joe, I like that.
Shine for the stars, not the rocks.
Okay, baby doll.
I love it.
That's a good construction inspirational quote.
But I do think you are right.
It is ballsy when someone's just in their second season
and you come at someone who's been nothing but kind, nothing like never started with you.
And just to come in to come on your second season and start throwing shade and spitting
lies.
It just feels, it just, it feels dirty.
People forget, you can't forget that we have been on a show now for it's been almost 13,
14 years and it's been all about family like real real
stuff that this hasn't been about friends we've had an amazing show on family and I'll
be honest with you you you took a lot of it you took an abuse you know you really did
and you still always respected everybody you respected my family you respected my parents
and my sister no matter what you've been through and you've always respected me
So and people see that people see who you are. You're just a good person everywhere
I go people say how amazing your wife is I say I know she's beautiful inside and out and I do say that so
You know shame on these other women shame on if you can't see that and it's it's an embarrassment
Sorry, yeah, and you know what? I I just going to end that whole Chanel conversation on this.
Listen, if you ever need advice or you want to build something with me, call me.
I'm all about lifting each other up, helping each other out in this crazy world, women
supporting women.
I would never come out anybody because they had a lot of followers and assumed that they
did something wrong to get them
So, you know, I don't know. Let me know girl. Hit me up if you want to talk. I'm here
I know I know Chanel's not a weak-minded individual. She's a tough. She's a tough strong woman
I've seen her on the show. She's snarky and I think she's great at what she does. So I don't get I really don't get it so
hit me up girl if you ever want to talk because I I'm confused this XOXO Melissa
confused there's a limitation to the shade it doesn't get you as far as you
want to go that's it and and that's it and we had to just address it you know
as much as as I don't like to, Nick, I had to.
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Well, listen, you know I'm a podcast host myself.
I think I'm just going to take over the microphone here and just maybe, you know, have a little
more conversation about, you know, I'm excited to talk about my wedding that we had on Bravo,
which was such a blessing in so many ways because of the impact I think it's made on
a lot of the viewers.
But before that, I feel like marriage in general, I know watching you guys with this podcast
and just how you've built up just this amazing following for yourselves, it's in the marriage
that you both share.
It's a Saturday, 4th of July weekend.
I actually have some friends over at my house right now, but I'm like, oh, I'm just going
to jump in the car, going to hang out with Melissa and Joe because I love being around
you two. And especially right now, I have you going to jump in the car, going to hang out with Melissa and Joe because I just love being around you two.
And especially right now, I have you all to myself and it's just fun.
And I literally have girlfriends that ask me, do they really love each other that way?
There's no way they're that obsessed with each other.
Is that real?
Is that real is such a common question.
And it's so cool to not have to feel like
I'm making up any kind of fabricated information like yes, they are truly obsessed with each
other.
Yes, the idea of them going to my bachelor party or my husband's bachelor party was a
huge drama in the family because they cannot be separated.
They're obsessed with being together and they're just in love with each other and infatuated.
It's an inspiration for me and my husband and I think it's very much a pattern in the
relationships in our family.
You guys do bust each other's chops all the time, but it doesn't ever feel like there's
ever tension that lingers.
It's very playful and very fun.
And, uh, you guys are also just very fun in general, you know, like I can't keep
up being, you know, I'm younger and it's like, gosh, I should be out right now.
I'm listening, Joe are out right now.
They're doing things, you know, and I'm like trying to like chill and, and, and,
and wind down sometimes on the weekends.
And you guys are just nonstop working working really hard being amazing parents plus prioritizing
your relationship which is really cool.
Wow, well thanks Nick.
Wait, a lot of people do ask you, huh?
They ask you about marriage.
No, no, no, no.
And what do you, you know, she is obsessed with me.
Can you tell them that?
Can you tell them that?
Here we go.
She's obsessed with me and that's how it goes.
So when the woman's obsessed with the man, it's easy.
She always wants me, she always wants to have sex.
Oh my God, oh my God, guys, we all know this is.
Not too much, once in a while, she wants, it's like I gotta always show her something.
I can't, right babe?
Right?
Yes.
Tell the truth.
No, but I think what Nick's saying is that we keep the fun in marriage, right Nick?
Like that's, like is that what people ask you? They do they? They ask you about our
marriage? Yes, yeah, they do. They just think that you guys do
genuinely show like how much you love each other and how fun you
have in your marriage and, and you just it's very playful when
you when you like bust each other's chops. It's never at
all like looks like there's ever tension never uncomfortable,
you know, and I know like that that's, I think also how we choose our
relationships with our friends is we love being in friendships where also,
you know, people are solid and their marriage or their relationship too,
because we don't like to just sit around and like talk about where miserable we
talk about life and love and just having fun.
And, and, and I think that's what we've been able to build for the
and just having fun and I think that's what we've been able to build for the lives in ourselves is just this energy that's just very just it's just it's
amazing it's fun it's a good time all the time always we love life we just
said this before I do think a couple is as strong also as the people around them
so if you hang out with other couples that are not like you, that don't spend as much
time together, that don't want to do what you guys want to do, and it's fine.
I'm not saying you have to be in a marriage where the couple hangs out together all the
time.
Whatever it is that goes on in your marriage, it's best to find couples that are the most
similar to your style marriage, right?
So I feel like all of our friends vibe with us on a level
of they keep their marriages very similar
to the way we keep ours,
which is the couple that plays together stays together.
And that's not the end all answer, right?
And that's not for everybody, but that's what works for us.
That's what works good for Joe and I.
So a lot of the couples that we keep
and the friends that we keep
live their marriage very similarly.
And I think that really does help a lot.
And I will always say it, it's a great advice to keep.
Find couples that are just like you.
If you do spend a lot of time apart,
then you should find couples that are similar too, where you're out with the girls or out with the guys, because then you're going to
end up getting jealous that the one couple spends so much time together. You're going
to compare your husband to that husband. Just find couples that function the way you do,
and it will help the social part of your marriage. It's not going to help your bills or your
parenting arguments or any of that, but it is going to help the social part of
your life and like your extracurricular activity time, if that makes sense. Does that make
sense Joe?
I guess. I mean, I don't know. You know, yes, babe, everything makes sense. But I believe
that, you know, if you really love somebody, which, you know, I really do love you and,
and I could be with anybody. It doesn't matter because I know I'm coming home to you and it's uh you know that's what I want right honey
I know but can you give some people like are any tips on to like why you think I mean Nick gets a
lot of questions about our marriage and like how do we keep it alive so let's just answer it before
we start talking about Nick's marriage all right so really how you keep alive is really it's it's it's respect.
Number one right.
Respect loyalty.
We keep fun.
We gotta have fun.
You got I always say I want to date you and that's why you know sex is very important.
It really is and spontaneous and all that nonsense and going out and enjoying each other.
And if you want to do something if you want to go out and I don't feel
Like going out I just suck it up and do it right and vice versa because I got to keep you happy
You should keep me happy because marriage is not about you anymore. It's really not it's about us
I don't want to mention any names, but for what you're saying
I do have a couple friends recently that are complaining because their spouse, right, is getting boring,
doesn't want to do anything anymore, is not keeping the spice alive, is, you know, kind
of letting go of like the fun aspects or wanting to plan a day trip or wanting to plan a vacation.
And I do think that affects marriages.
And it's not just about having the money to go do it.
It's about take a walk, plan something, take a, you know, go to New York City and walk
around like I do think that does pull couples apart when one just starts to get like almost
boring in a way where they're just like, I don't feel like it.
I don't want to go.
I'd rather just stay home.
I don't want to do this.
I don't want to do that.
That does cause a big rift in marriages like a lot of the times
And I have a lot of friends and family members who are currently complaining that their spouse is just doesn't want to go
He doesn't want to go so I guess we're gonna just sit in the backyard because he doesn't feel like going today or whatever
It is and I do think you do have to have a give-and-take when it comes to like
The back and forth of a marriage you have to go out sometimes you do things that you don't want to do.
Yeah, there's always like, if you want to do something, I'm like, and I really don't
want to go out.
And I'm like, all right, if you want to do that, let's do it.
Then there's times that you know, there's times that I want to do something you say
no or vice versa, and you agree, but it's not like all the time, right?
So you got to just, you got to help each other out. You got to it's not about again, I always say it's not like all the time right so you got to just you got to help each other out you got to it's not about
Again, I always say it's not about you anymore. It's about us
And I will say you guys and really all the relationships in our family you you always give me that gut check of like oh wow
You're very considerate of like your your spouse
Before you commit to a plan and that's that's something that probably, that's what I have to work on is like, yes, I'll
be there.
No problem.
It's like, wait, didn't you want to talk to Mike first?
You guys have this whole process.
Let me talk to Joe first and I'm gonna get back to you.
I got to talk to Melissa or I got to talk to Kimmy or like it's, but it's you prioritize
each other and it's that is not I'm telling you
that's a huge missing piece in a lot of marriages.
I know it and I think that that is one of the reasons why you guys have stood the test
of time as you really do consider each other first.
It's like your default response.
Yeah instantly because to me that's life.
My life is let's first I
check in at home and see what Joe wants to do or what my kids are doing or like
oh is that a good weekend for me to go away well let me check my children's
schedule first to make sure that that like aligns and so that's what I do. I
check in at home first before I worry about anything else and it has worked
for us it's worked for Joe it's worked for you know a lot of it's a funny joke Joe if you want to talk about this amongst Joe's friends
They don't even text Joe anymore. They text me and they're like Melissa
Can we go out with the guys on Friday because because Joe doesn't know his schedule. He's like he had
They check in with me. They know that I'm my boys
When they text they go like this they text. They're like, hey Melissa
You want to go to the game? Nah, you know, it's we're going to the Yankee game. Melissa. Is that okay with you Melissa?
I don't like no actually we're booked somewhere. We have something. We're not here
We have an appearance Joe like he never knows
Let's let's tie this up on up with a bow on a positive light. You guys have been married now
How many years we are oh what you're jumping in on Nick and Marco we are going to be married on August 20th for 20 years 20 years Joe and I.
This year 20 years? This year and that's why I planned a trip so guys you want to hear this funny story? I have planned a trip for Joe.
So we got married on, Joe was 29.
He turned 30 on August 21st and we got married on August 20th.
So at midnight at our wedding, it was Joe's 30th birthday.
So this trip dupes as Joe's birthday trip and also our 20year wedding anniversary. So I planned a trip.
What I did was my sisters and my mother have never been to Italy. I've been a
couple times and it's just something that you know my mother's getting older.
I said I want to experience you know we don't have my dad who I feel like if he
was around this would have happened a long time ago. He would have taken us all to Italy.
We would have done this family trip.
And it was something that each time I was in Italy, I said, I just want my sisters to
experience it.
I want my mom to know what Italy feels like.
So I, because I just think it's the most magical place in the world.
The Al-Mafi Coast to me is magic. So I decided when I got back from
the Al-Mafi Coast last year that I was going to book my, I was going to book the trip for
this year for Joe's birthday and for our 20th wedding year anniversary. Well, I book a villa
in Positano. I book a couple nights in Capri for a hotel and I do it. I invite my sisters,
their husbands and my mom and my children because I want my kids there
for my husband's birthday and so I randomly get a phone call. So we're
going to the flight information. Like where are we staying? Is there room in
that Villa for me? I'm like, oh my God, Nick just invited himself to Italy.
Like this is how our family works.
Nick, tell the people you invited yourself.
I mean, are you surprised?
We're going to Boca this week.
You didn't ask me to go.
I'm just coming along.
Cause I look, I basically just need access to your calendar
because it makes it a lot easier.
Yes.
But I am definitely the family member who some think
I'm getting invited all the time.
No, no, no.
I just actively figure out what's going on all the time. No, no, no, I just actively
figure out what's going on in the family that's exciting. And I make a point to say I'd like
to be there. And you know, I can be there, which is also I think part of it too, is I
can jump on a plane within like two days notice and make it happen. You know, being having
a flexibility in my schedule. But you know, my husband's never been to Italy. And we're
making a honeymoon out of it, which is of course incredible by having some alone time first, prioritizing the relationship.
You are staying in your own hotel.
You aren't staying in a villa with us.
We are, yeah.
Only because there's not enough beds, otherwise we'd be happy to.
I thought it would be a little tight, but I would of course love to have you because
of course you-
We're going to Italy together.
This is incredible.
We should never not, I mean, next time it's got to be a bigger villa with more people but
Using we're doing it in Italy the motherland. This is incredible. It is pretty incredible, right? Yes. I invited myself who cares?
I have no shame about that. I'm the opportunity coach. I love opportunity
Right. And so here's here's a little I remember when I remember when Melissa was like I didn't want to marry an Italian
I didn't want an Italian. I should now she's a she's got an Italian 20 years later
She eats Italian food almost every night, baby
That's right and you celebrate in Italy
To go make memories isn't it cute we're going with my sisters mom? Like, I just think and now we have Nick and Mike coming.
I just think it's going to be such a memory for all of us.
It's going to be it's going to be great.
You know, you know, I'm all about I'm all about love and family.
That's it's what I enjoy, man.
And this is going to be the most amazing trip because that's what I love, man.
I just love to be happy with everybody and enjoy and create those memories so we can
talk about it.
And you know, it's the best feeling.
So you get annoyed that Nick or my family members just invite themselves to our trips?
No, you know, I want more than Mary.
I love it.
I don't care.
No, you're so easy.
You really are.
You're easy.
And you guys are definitely the type to to be like, you know, you know, we need to just
be the two of us this time.
So sorry, you can't come this time, but no problem. You know, next time for sure.
And you know, that's that's again, prioritizing your marriage and your relationship, which
is good. Right. That's probably what I need to do more because I'm all about do you want
to come to and Mike's like, uh, weren't we supposed to go just the two of us? You're
like, okay, you're right. You're right. Which, you know, I'm learning.
Yeah, sometimes you just need the alone time.
Sometimes you just need to be alone with your family
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Anyway, Nick, let's just discuss,
let's give a little behind the scenes of what went down
on the episode of The Real Housewives of New Jersey when we showed your wedding, which
I just want to say touched, Nick, touched so many people's lives.
I know I reposted a couple.
There was thousands of messages. I reposted a very few of the people out there
from mothers, from aunts, from gay men themselves,
from you name it saying like,
wow, this has touched me in such a way.
I am about to do this with my son
and to see the love that was in the,
and they didn't get to see a lot of this wedding. And you guys don't even know, you didn't get to see the love that was in the end. They didn't get to see a lot of this wedding.
You guys don't even know, you didn't get to see the half of it.
We did not allow cameras to go into the reception.
So a lot of people were like, why did Bravo cut this so short?
It was so short.
What was short is the ceremony.
It was.
They could have showed you so much more of the ceremony because Joe was hysterical actually.
We were in shock
Over what he was able to do and if you want to check Instagram out
shock
Not think you were gonna
Pull it off like that like I thought you were gonna hit the basics
I didn't think you were gonna go above and beyond and make it funny and make it
Because I thought you were so scared which Nick can explain why you were so scared,
but the production company ran into a couple bumps
along the way.
We...
Yeah, go ahead.
I mean, we could say my father was definitely...
Not feeling it.
Your typical Italian father who he's always been,
you don't hear much about my father intentionally
He's not like a big reality TV guy and so the idea of Bravo and your son's wedding
You know just didn't really make him feel good and so he had a power move play
Where he basically just said you know to the camera crew?
This is when you're gonna start and this is when you're gonna stop and
and that's it i'm the father and and uh you know was probably a little scary and as much as it was
stressful and didn't make me very happy in the moment it's i love my father so much and i respect
him and he is who he is and i think everyone else also has the same views when it comes to my dad, especially.
But you know, I loved my reception and how it was really the most magical room I've ever
been in in my entire life, especially for being that it was my wedding.
And you know, so definitely check out, you know, our Instagram pages and you know and my wedding vendors were incredible and
what they created during the reception.
It does make it very special that it was private, but it was a shame that you guys didn't get
to get the cameras to at least get a peek.
Well, I made sure I Instagrammed a lot of videos and a lot of pictures and it's all
... You can watch the full entire ceremony of how Joe worked that out
on Joe's on Nick's Instagram actually. He's at Nick Marco CEO.
Is that what it is now?
Nicholas Marco underscore CEO because we could have the debate actually right now if you
want cousin because she will not call me Nicholas. She refuses to call me Nicholas.
I don't like the name Nicholas.
Nicholas she just won't do it. And like we have to make it. I have to make it hot Nicholas. She just won't do it and like we have to make it
I have to make a decision about this soon because it's like such a topic by you like
I like what are you doing?
All the all the hotties that just you know, they're they're Nick's they're not Nicholas's that's what she says
And I don't think that like
Nicholas just sounds older and like professional and like
I like short look at my son Gino like I like Gino Gorgia I like short names that about
Joe's Joe's huh Joe's hot yeah Joe all Joe's are hot right I feel like Joe's are a hot
commodity.
They're typically little Italian boys little hot little Italian boys yes they that's, you know, I think they're hot commodities.
But power move to embrace your full name.
That's all I have to say about power move to embrace my full name is Melissa.
They call me they call me Missy G. But my name is Melissa.
We love saying Missy.
All right.
But wait, we have to explain.
So we are filming just like the getting ready hair and makeup of Nick's wedding.
Right guys. And the cameraman Roland, they love to get the behind the scenes.
You got to see a little bit of that of us sitting on the couches, like I had my robe
on.
They did show you a little of that.
Well, that is when my godfather, who Nick's dad is my dad's brother, and he's also my
godfather to explain how we're related.
We are first cousins, our dads are brothers.
And he is a very strong-willed man.
He's the kindest heart.
He's a charitable man.
He's an amazing, successful man.
He created the whole hand in stone massage.
He's an entrepreneur on so many levels.
He's a success in his own right. But he kind of wanted to be, you know, he
put his foot down at the wedding and was like, yeah, yeah, who were you, basically,
to the production people and crew, and he was just like, you guys got to get out of
here. And they were like, well, we're here to film the wedding, and he was just like,
really? And then he kind of was looking at me and I was like
Nick did you tell your dad like this was going to be of course he knew I think that if he was trying to play that
Angle very creative very smart good on his part. I don't know what else to say to that. Did you tell him Nick?
Yes, of course was he fully aware that they were gonna film the reception
Well, well, I don't blame him because that it is his son's wedding.
I mean, he wanted a special.
He don't know what the cameras were going to do.
So who knows? Yeah.
Unfortunately, the dynamic of family and real housewives, you know,
you don't really have much leg to stand on in the sense of why he would be nervous.
After seeing my son's christening. Yes.
But I do think and I appreciate Bravo for making that happen
As it was finally a moment to show love happiness something to celebrate a nice moment breaking up the drama a little bit and and really
showcasing and the one moment they showcased was actually probably one of the best ones to showcase which was really just my cousin Joe
once to showcase, which was really just my cousin Joe acknowledging really on his own right that it was very much a burden when he would always ask me about the ladies my
whole life.
And he recognized that on his own after, you know, when I did come out, how reflecting
back he's like, wow, you know, that's a shame that I was doing that to you, not even realizing
that it was probably making it even
harder for you to just break free and just accept that no, you're not going to ever have
a relationship with a woman.
It's just never going to happen.
And I finally accepted that in myself and came out and there was just this amazing celebration
in our family and kudos given to me for doing it. And I had so many people message me saying,
you know, I have these men in my family
and to see this happen has given me the confidence
to come out or just maybe they'll see it
and it'll give them a little bit of that gut check
of like there is power in your words and your presence
and you just don't know how it's
impacting somebody else that you have no intentions of hurting but it could create a burden.
I thought it was beautifully described because I never heard you say that.
The word burden really makes a lot of sense because it was this lift that happened, this
weight off my shoulders, but it was something that I
carried for years for years and so I remember when he went to college and he
went to Penn State I'm like yeah what are you doing now you know me I'm just
a guy's guy so much you taking the girls back what are you doing how many you're
knocking them you get them what are you doing at night you know how many he's
like yeah yeah he was he you used to yes me to death. He was and I'm like, how many did you get this week?
Like, I mean, it was really it was it was that intense. And he was just yes me and say
yes, and I'm doing it and I'm doing it. But little did I know he wasn't doing it.
Yeah, no, and it's true. I was lying. Like it was so that was hard to I don't know. I'm
not a liar. But I had to like, you know kind of come up with something to shut him up at some point
I was just like, oh my god
Like it got to the point where I would like have to like avoid them because it was like so hard to just fake
You know not be yourself authentically. So you would avoid Joe just so that he didn't ask
Oh for sure. Absolutely. Absolutely sooner if I hear now he's your best friend. How funny is that? Yeah, no, it's amazing
Is that and you know what else is funny? I actually there was some people like on Instagram to you know
Of course, there's always a hater where there's a lover. There's a hater and they'd be like, oh, what is this?
Why are you giving us this random?
Cousin and like they're probably not even tight or close and they're just having Joe like
officiate this wedding and it's like it's so crazy to me that there can be
Such love wherever there's love there is hate like I people you need to know that like we are so tight
We travel together we holiday together. We spend Sundays together like tomorrow is Sunday, right? What will we do tomorrow?
Nick, what are we gonna do? We The family's in a group text, quarantine cousins.
We are quarantine cousins. We just start texting. Where are we going? What are we doing? Like
we're extremely tight. So, um, yeah.
So, and then just thank you for all the amazing comments and thank the both of you. You know,
you didn't have to try to go through this You know the nonsense that could it can be sometimes with camera crew to make this happen
But I think you know you both
Recognized that this was an opportunity to showcase something that would make a positive impact and hopefully change some people's lives
Oh for sure and Andy Cohen loved it. He loved the concept. He had said to me Melissa
You know when I was on watch what happens live, he said, Melissa,
wait till you like I absolutely loved this scene. And it's such
a beautiful moment. And especially for Joe, as well,
like showing how nervous Jodie, want to talk about how nervous
you were and like, how my uncle stressed you out as well. And
you went in there, guys, I don't I think it did show. And if you
could see Antonia the whole time, she was like my god he's so nervous oh my god he's
shaking oh my god he's nervous like you can hear Antonia in the clips say that
tell them what my uncle did to you I really wasn't nervous at all throughout
the week coming up the day only you know, even that day, the night before, it was only
when Uncle Johnny just started flipping out and the camera showed up and the way he was
acting and I'm like, oh my God, and what's going to happen?
What if I say something wrong?
Is he not, is he not, am I going to make this special moment, you know, something bad?
And it just started
Fucking with my head, you know, you know in your mind is everything and I was just getting nervous and everything I was I thought about in my heart. I forgot about you know, and I was just I had to do it all over again and
The nerves just took over me and every time and what the worst thing was when I was sitting on that podium right there
Right in front of me was your dad, Uncle Johnny.
I was just looking at, we were looking eye to eye the whole time.
And it was so difficult.
People know one on the six.
I don't care about whoever's in, there could be thousands of people in that audience.
I don't care.
But your dad was everything.
He was eating me up and I was, I was, I was shaken.
I really was shaken.
It would have came out a lot nicer.
Think how talented I am, bro.
I'm just kidding.
No, but Joe, you did awesome.
No, we were, Joe, I'm not even, like, I'm telling you,
we were so impressed.
Very impressed.
Like, we had no idea.
That's why I was a little upset Bravo didn't show
more of what you actually said,
because you threw in some really funny, like one liners in there
and like, weird, like almost like advice that was like, wow,
that's my husband saying those things like you did you did
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And also guys, here's another little cue
about that episode.
There was Margaret and Dolores also did come to the wedding
and after the ceremony was over, which by the way guys,
you know we weren't supposed to be in a tent, like his wedding team was so
amazing that they transfer, we were supposed to be on this lake outside and
it was downpouring during the ceremony as you guys saw. They transformed this
tent into the most magical gorgeous tent with the flowers that he had at this
wedding were unbelievable. It was
a Kardashian style. That's how I can explain it because that's what they do above and beyond.
Nick, you, wow. You cut no costs. You went all in. That was your moment. If you guys
could have seen how they transferred this tent, I think you could see it a little bit but to be there and see the magic of the flowers and the velvet and the colors that
were put together for this fall wedding, you guys would have died.
I was just upset that we couldn't even give you a glimpse of what the reception room looked
like because it was just magical.
And it was a whole weekend.
We stayed there for the whole entire weekend, the whole family. We played games. We, it was in a magical,
if I can go back, I would go back tomorrow, but I just can't forget uncle Johnny's face
staring at us. Like, why did you bring this TV show?
But I have to say, when I was done, um, he was so happy. He was crying. He was laughing.
He was clapping.
He's like, yes.
So I was like, ah, it was over.
Nothing on my paper.
I believe I might have read two or three lines.
Everything else just came off the cuff because I was so nervous.
It was so bad.
That's how much I love you, bro.
You see, it comes off the cuff.
You did awesome.
You did an amazing job. No you and you exceeded expectations
We really did because I was definitely nervous
You could even see me at one point during the ceremony almost like having to like try to guide him back because the control
Freaking me can't help myself. But like
Like I just I've done four wedding ceremonies myself
So it was like also me trying to be helpful to my cousin
But it's my wedding
So I just you want to just be able to trust and let it go and I did and and you just you made it so
Special I have watched my wedding ceremony so many times. I feel so lucky to have this this it's like watching a movie
you know if you really watch the ceremony that you did you know, you really just
Communicated such an amazing, gave us such great advice, acknowledged us in our relationship and sent
us off to an amazing evening.
So I loved it.
We partied and then there was an after party.
And I did ask, by the way, I asked Andy, or not Andy, I asked one of production, like what happens,
why, because they didn't show Margaret and Dolores and I
having like a conversation.
And you know what they said?
They had a really good reason for it.
You know what, it was such a beautiful moment
that we didn't want to bring the drama of like the fights
and what was going on.
Like we wanted to keep this just a beautiful moment.
And when we went to put it out there,
it just felt right to leave it ended
with this beautiful moment of these two men,
you know, marrying each other
with Joe officiating it the way he did.
They said, that was the end of it.
We didn't want to put drama into that episode as well,
which I think makes perfect sense. And I respect that. And now I of it. We didn't want to put drama into that episode as well, which I think makes perfect sense and I respect that and I and now I get it and I
understand why it kind of capped right there and it was kind of short, sweet, to
the point and meaningful. It was a meaningful moment, you know, which we
don't always get on The Real Housewives of New Jersey, but for everyone just to
like button that off, for everyone message we heard we read your messages
We love that we touched you. I I
Really really love that we had this moment. So Nick
Thank you for allowing us to put it on our show and to to show pleasure
All right, Nick before we go we need to talk about your podcast the opportunity coach
Thank you a new podcast out
podcast, the opportunity coach has a new podcast out. Nick, tell me about the podcast, what you do on the podcast. Talk to me.
Yeah, well, I'm an entrepreneur of multiple businesses, multiple brands. You know, I run
an organization with over 500 employees and I am definitely this young, hungry entrepreneur
who loves to scale and I see life as just an overwhelming, non-stop, just
playground of opportunity.
And so the name of my podcast, The Opportunity Coach, just plays on the fact that I like
to be in this coaching role for people, whether it's people that work for me, whether it's
family members or friends that are looking to be business owners or entrepreneurs, or
they already are and they want to take it to the next level.
You know, it's your mindset to me that opens doors.
And so I just see every problem as an opportunity.
And I try to seek that in conversations with entrepreneurs, owners, business
owners, uh, leaders, anybody that comes on my podcasts, or I'll have a solo episode, which I did once too already,
and that was a lot of fun.
So I just like to inspire people.
I feel fortunate if I have a voice that I like to use
to use it, and podcasts, which really was an inspiration
from you, Missy, was something that made a lot of sense.
And so my ultimate goal in life would be like
a shark on Shark Tank because I just love that they can within five minutes give real
advice where they say you just don't have a business this isn't gonna work or hell yes
your business is amazing I want to invest and help you go to the next level that show
has truly changed people's lives it's all about the American dream and so I just want a little taste of that and and we'll see
where it goes so opportunity coach is the podcast and it's available on all
platforms and really just getting started with the momentum there well let
me just say I cannot first of all I'm happy that you were inspired by coming
on this podcast I just I love that by the way,
and I love how, what I really love about you
is that you just make shit happen, Nick.
Like you have no hesitation in you,
and I think that's probably your strongest asset
that you don't even realize
that you are a we're going to do it person.
You are a yes person,
as crazy and cliche as that may sound. You are yes, there's no excuses, let to do it person. You are a yes person as crazy and cliche as that
may sound. You are yes there's no excuses let's do it and let's do it tomorrow.
Like that's Nick. You are very like put your two feet forward get what you want
go for it try it. So I do think that that is such a valuable piece of you that for
the people out there that don't
know Nick, you are very much a tiger in that aspect where you were blessed with a beautiful
life with beautiful opportunities, but you don't settle like you take the little bit
of opportunity that you have the people that you know, the businesses that your father
has created and you don't sit back and say,
I'm going to sit back because I'm good here. You want to triple, you want to double, you want to
move out into total different avenues that have nothing to do with your father that he doesn't
even know anything about. And you create and you're young, you're young, Nick, you're still young,
you're young, you're thriving and I'm very proud of you for just being such
a strong force with yes and like we are going to do it.
And the way that you just try it and you might, and so far nothing hasn't, you know, there
wasn't much that hasn't worked for you, right?
Like, and knock on wood, but you really are a go-getter in every sense of the word and you make shit
happen. I mean, you so you have guests come on and Joe, I want
to hear what you think about, you know, Nick and the way he's
an entrepreneur as well. But just for your podcast, you
having guests come on that are bigger entrepreneurs say than
you are. Yeah. And that are giving advice on business, how to move forward in business. Is
there a dream guest that you'd love to have on? Oh, Mark Cuban
would be a dream guest or Mr. Wonderful, both of those from
Shark Tank there. I love their approach. Robert as well from
Shark Tank. I can't help but think of Shark Tank because I
get to see them so much through the show. But there's so many out there.
Howard Stern is like an inspiration as far as having a podcast because I love how he
interviews and he asks the questions that you, I think a lot of people just, I would
say something controversial with the Celine Dion documentary because it was funny.
I was having like a good powwow with one of the producers of your show Housewives because he said like it was a shame. There
was moments where they didn't ask her like a good question and like they could have taken
that documentary I think to the even the next level. So I love the stories in people's lives
and frankly yes Mark Cuban and Robert and Mr. Wonderful, they're great.
But like I've already had some really impressive people that don't have that kind of platform,
but they're very inspiring.
And I selfishly, I've become a better business owner and entrepreneur already just by having
the interviews that I've had because I learn a lot.
I operate through dialogue.
Every time we talk, I'm like writing things down in my mind because of like ideas
that come up.
And so, I would love to though of course have the big wigs and that's the goal.
Well, I know a couple where the husband's a very successful developer and the wife is
a very successful boutique owner and entrepreneur herself.
So if you ever want have them on as guests,
you might, I might have a hookup for you.
Yeah, maybe, maybe, we're there.
I got you guys.
You got it.
Yeah, and Joe, I feel like Joe,
everyone has learned from the best also,
though they've learned from you, right?
Who you've always been such an entrepreneur
in your own right, and you've been someone
who your father came into this country not knowing the language and he was a shoemaker and you somehow created
this company that you own now and you're a developer and you have buildings all over
New Jersey and you convert warehouses into apartment buildings and do you have any advice
for Nick or for the people out there and just in business? No I am Nick's Nick's on his path man I
can't give him advice he's Nick you're doing great you're amazing and I look
up to you man and that's what that's what's great and and what's great about
this family is that we look up to each other I'm not here to try to compete
compete and and and one-up you no no no I just not here to try to compete and one up you. No, no, no. I just want you
to keep doing it and get bigger. And the more the bigger you get, the happier I get. And
that's what I meant about this other thing last time about these housewives. You got
to lift people up instead of trying to take them down.
Right. And with that ending, I will say our family is, we do have unconditional love, but we
all take accountability.
And that is a huge part of making a great family, a great friend, a great anything.
You need to take accountability for what goes on in your marriage, in your relationships,
in your families.
And I think that we are all really great at taking
accountability when it's our turn to take it and
We're just happy to be here. We're happy to give you a little piece of us and
Nick we cannot wait to listen more to more episodes of the opportunity coach. I feel like you're doing awesome on that
I feel like it's it's another avenue for people who
really want to break out and do more in business and hear advice and they might not have the
opportunity to have conversations with successful small business owners or business owners or huge
CEOs for that matter. I think another huge guest for you would be your father if I'm being honest.
He is the mongol of it all and I've watched him before you were born
try to make the first ever VCR movie maker which was no one at the time we had these big VCRs that
we would hold and my father had one and my uncle had one and he came out with the first ever box
that you would be able to go to the store and buy with a
movie kit so that you can make a movie in your house.
It would come complete with a script and it would come with the props that you would need
to make your own like, you know.
Hollywood make a movie.
It was called Hollywood make a movie kits.
Hollywood make a movie.
We got to get the footage of these old videos.
So funny.
Yes. He started there and that's was his entrepreneur but it
didn't work right. So try try try again and then he bought one
he bought the phone number when everyone was buying 800 numbers.
My uncle went ahead and bought 1800 massage. Smart man right.
So there's things and there's tricks to the trade. So Nick's
got all those tricks up his sleeves. And so you guys
definitely want to listen to the
opportunity coach. I'm very excited about that. I'm sure Joe and I will be a guest very soon. Thank
you, Joe and Nick for coming on to the podcast. You are two of my favorite men in my lives and I
could not, I couldn't be me without the two of you. So, and you're both so inspiring and you're,
you're the true meaning of what good men are and both for different reasons. And you're both so inspiring and you're the true meaning of what good men
are, both for different reasons, but you're both amazing guys and you're a great example
to this society of just a good human being. So we're going to end on that today. I love
you guys. Guys, say bye to everybody. Bye, everybody. Thank you for having me.
Of course. We love you. Bye, everybody. We love you, Joe Gorga.
Love you, babe. Love you, everybody. Everybody's a Joe Gorga fanorgath. We love you guys. Ciao! I can feel the heat of the spotlight shine on me.
I can feel the pressure on body.
Got me feeling all of these feelings, and it's driving me insane.
I'm a rapsy watching me do my thing.
Cause I'm on display,, on this place, on this place. Every day, every day, every day.
Everybody's waiting on me to fall. Everybody's waiting on me to fall. But they can keep on
waiting on me, waiting on me, waiting on me to fall. Waiting on me, waiting on me, waiting on me to fall.
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