On Display with Melissa Gorga - Best (of) Regards, Melissa

Episode Date: June 2, 2022

It's the middle of the season, and you know what that means; It's time to look back. Join Melissa this week as she shares some of her favorite clips from her interviews so far this season. We have Kyle Richards, Lala Kent, Jana Kramer, and many more incredible guests in this great episode.  This week's sponsors: Apartments.com - Apartment Rentals: apartments.com  Butcherbox - Premium Meat Subscription: butcherbox.com/gorga (Free grilling bundle) SlingTV - Streaming Television: sling.com  Total Wine & More - Wine, Beer, and Liquor: totalwine.com 

You're listening to Melissa Gorga on display with me, Melissa Gorga on podcast one. All right, guys, I'm really excited for this one. As you guys probably know, we've made it through the first half of season one of Melissa Gorga on display. Thank you so much for all listening, honestly, from the bottom of my heart. So I thought why not do a best of episode and share some clips of some of my favorite interviews so far this season. So let's get this party rolling. so far this season. So let's get this party rolling. She's feisty and she had a lot of things to say about her exit from the housewives franchise. Ladies and gentlemen, Tamra Judge. Wait, talk to me. Is life a little different since Bravo? Like how are you? What's going on in life? How's Eddie that hottie? Eddie is good. So when I pulled myself out of my one-year depression.

Oh, because I want to know this because listen, someone like me who's been on for a while, and I'm going to fall into a depression when it ends, talk to me. It's, you know what? How long have you been on a long time? About the years, 11 years. Okay, so I was on 12 years. Wasn't really expecting it. And when it happened, I just like burst into tears. And I'm like, oh my God. Like, yeah, I feel that.

Yeah, because it was, you know, it was a big part of my life. It was, I started when my kids were tiny. Now they're all almost, I only have one left in the house now. And you know what? I miss the most is just the crew. And just like, oh, like they're in your house first. You know, we always have pretty much the same crew a year after year. You get to know them. And then all of a sudden, it's like, okay, like they're in your house first, you know, we always have pretty much the same crew But you're after your photo. You get to know them and then all of a sudden it's like, okay, I'm not filming my life

Is completely changed, you know when you film like you're filming then the editing and then you're doing press and then you're going to Newark and you're doing all these things and before you know when you start all over so you're constantly busy and then it got to a point where I'm like Fuck what what I do now what I'm like, fuck, what a cycle. What am I doing? What am I going to do with my life now? And it just felt it just hurt. It hurt. I'm like, and then Andy called me. Lines cited by it.

Like, did you have any idea that that was going to happen? None. None. Do you sometimes blame it on, so I say the OGs have to be careful, all of them, because the salaries are higher than the rest. Yeah. And sometimes that has a lot to do with it, right? Or wrong? Right. But you know what, if there was an issue with the salary and I was still performing,

like, talk to me. Right. You know what I mean, talk to me. Like, we can work something out. Right. You know, it is what it is. And I've had, you know, I obviously went through a process, and I'm, it wasn't a full year, but it was really, I got knocked to my ass and then I, I was sad and then I was mad and then I was, you know, speaking out and then I was shutting up, like I didn't know what to do. And now I'm out of place where, you know, everything happens for a reason. Life is good.

Do I miss it? Yeah, I miss it. But, you know what, I have so many great things in my life and my husband, my kids, my businesses, all these things. And life goes on. It's one of those things that you know what's going to happen. You know what's going to happen. Right. Well, it's eventually going to do. You know, Joe has conversations with me about this all the time because he worries about it actually. He says you are so wrapped up with exactly what you said. It's a cycle of life. It's literally your career. So yes, we are in a reality TV show, but this is our life.

We get up, we know we have press, we have this, we have that, we have to, you know, there's a whole, it's a cycle. And when that gets taken from you and it literally takes up most of your life and half of your schedule and you're sitting there and your kids are older, you're not home with little babies anymore, Joe worries.

He's like, what's gonna, are you gonna fall into a depression when this happens, when the show ends? You older, you're not home with little babies anymore. Joe worries. He's like, what's going to happen? Are you going to fall into a depression when this happens? When the show ends, you will, you know, you might, right? Yeah. She said you will. You will. Every because I've talked to so many and so many girls that have gotten let go, have reached out to me. And they're like, you know, and they're sad. And we're talking about it. And it's one of those things where you let go and they let go of you. And then nobody talks to you. It's just like, boom. It's like, you're here and now you're gone. I, it's kind of like that. That's sad. Like a marriage breaking up.

And then you just, you know, you have to say goodbye to the family and everybody and it's like, oh, so it is what it is. I've always kept a pretty strong relationship friendship with Andy Cohen. So we still chat and talk and I did the girls trip and I don't know, there's a lot of buzz. Oh, you're going to be back. You're going to be back. But I'm not banking on it or counting on it or worrying about it. If they asked you to come back to OC, what would you would come, you would definitely do it. Well, it have to be a family decision

at this point, because Eddie was kind of excited. Not to have the cameraman in his house all day. Yeah, for the peace. And I think like, if it was one of the things we're like, listen, take a couple years off, enjoy life, you'll come back. I would have been like, yes, yes, that would be great. But, you know, I don't know, who knows, there's a lot of, they did ask me to come do a couple scenes this season or, yeah, this season. Really? And I, I didn't know who knows there's a lot of they did ask me to come do a couple scenes this season or yeah the season really And I I didn't why I want to see you popping on these people that I don't know as well because I feel like I'm not a side Bitch like I'm like all in or not understand that I understand that I always said if at this stage in the game

They came to me and said okay, we're gonna keep you around, but you'll be a friend of. I would say, oh my gosh, thank you so much for everything. Like, just because it's so much stress to be a friend of, to be honest, it's like, you're either all in or that's how I personally feel about it. Like I would take that as my farewell. Yeah, I mean, any career that I'm in or job that I have or business like own, like I'm 100% all in.

And I just, I wouldn't be able to be that person that just goes, I would, you know me, like I can't get my mouth shut. No, you can't. And then another thing is like you go in for, you know, an episode or whatever, a scene. And then everybody can talk crap about you. You don't have a voice after that. You're not seen again.

They can do their interviews. You're not gonna, I'm not gonna do an interview. I'm not getting paid for that. So I don't know. At first I was gonna do it. And that is like think about that. Just think about it. You're worth more than that.

I agree. I feel like you're not a half ass kind of girl. You're not. You're like full throttle. You have passion. You're the most perfect housewife in every which way when it comes to like, like surprise them take it left when everyone's. Yeah. And like she's totally having her tamer dutch moment like she's realizing that she's being controlled and she wants out of this marriage and like, my cousin will reference you. She's like, Oh, no, she's totally having her tamer dutch moment. Like, it's funny because

you're another one that we really watch you transition in life and go from that marriage that was kind of falling apart in front of all of us that so many women can relate to that they're scared to get out of and you keep getting pulled back and that to me, I let me just tell you, those days when and I you know forgive me but when Gretchen came on and it was like you who's the hottest and like Tam was like I'm the best years of my life watching reality television. I am sorry. That was to me with with Gretchen and the hair and her big hair and like, you know, the pageant TV outfits.

Yeah. And like the old or older man and like you just saying it what it was and like, hi girl, I'm still going to be I died. Like that was great TV. That's when I fell in love with all of y'all. That was like amazing. That was great TV. That's when I fell in love with all of y'all. That was like amazing. That was great TV. That's great. I don't miss those days because I'm not a big fan of hers. But do you talk about? I know. You don't talk to me. I don't know.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There's definitely, I get sad sometimes, like right now in the podcast, we're recapping all the house why shows and of course Orange County's on right now. So I was telling Teddy the other days and sometimes I get a little sad, like I go down a rabbit hole, like, you know, and just be like, oh, like, oh, that was my show. Now I'm talking about it as a time I am, you know, I get that. I get that I get tater. I feel like you've always been so close with Andy I know that you guys

had a good relationship. Do you ever just be like just say like why? Like why? Does he get a good answer as to why? I haven't well we had a conversation right after and he called me or he texted me said listen call me when you want to talk and we'll talk about this. And so we talked and we shared a lot. And I did say like, what's this about? And he's like, listen, he goes, they want to go in a different direction right now,

see how it works. You'll be back. He goes thinking about how excited the viewers are going to be when you do come back. Next up, we have a little clip from my time with Michael Rappaport. He is hysterical. You know, like I was telling my wife,

I was like, I'm doing your podcast. And she was excited and I was like, how could I ever not do a Gorgas fucking podcast? And Gorgas, Gorgas fucking podcast? And Gorgas. Gorgas I've met, Gorgas that aren't in your family, because you guys, you and Joe and your entire family have given me so much joy, week after week, year after year. And I mean, Jersey is such a,

the real house was in New Jersey is such a part of, like, it's like comfort food for me. Like, you guys deliver every single time, every time. You know, other shows, you know, they could really be kick ass and then they could get born, but just, you know, you guys are just so funny and so funny and so passionate and it's so

deeply intertwined in the family and just to see you guys grow, you know, like to see you grow and like, you know, to see your family's grow and, you know, obviously you know, with the kids and you know, the stuff and Teresa and just to see your

relationship and, you know, you know, Joe and Teresa, it's just I just, I mean, listen, there's a lot of content there. Jersey always comes through. I would say Jersey. And it's so passionate. It's comes through and you're also very, all very funny. But you're like a fucking, you're like Thanksgiving dinner, but every every week. I don't care what's on in the summer.

I don't care what's on in the spring. When you sit down and watch out, I don't care what's on in the summer. Okay, what's on in the spring. When you sit down to watch out, give it on a Tuesday or Wednesday, a Thursday, a Monday, New Jersey house is like fucking Thanksgiving dinner and a good Thanksgiving dinner every time. I love it. I love it. Wait, are we? Would you and I take no offense? I take no offense to this. Would you say that were your favorite franchise? Or do you have a favorite? Like, what is your favorite that you really? I have to say to this. Would you say that were your favorite franchise? Or do you have a favorite? What is your favorite that you really, at first?

I have to say Jersey, because. Yeah. I have to say Jersey, because first of all, I could say New York, but New York has changed so drastically. You know, the big three on New York, Sony Morgan, the great Sony Morgan. Yes. Obviously the Countess,

uh, Luana Danielis-Apps, uh, who I say her name incorrectly and the fantastic Ramona singer. Those are the big three of, of, uh, of New York. But, you know, the show has changed and who knows what's going to happen, but Jersey, every single year. And also, you know, it partially is because you know I'm a New Yorker.

So the way you guys speak and the way you guys, you know, sound like it's familiar, very comfortable for me. So, I mean, you can ask me whatever you want, but, you know, at some point, I'm going to start, I have to ask you Jersey questions. So, but I'll work. Yes, no, we're going to hit it. I want you to be the lead. I want you to be the lead.

Oh, no, I'm going to let you, I'm going to allow you to ask me some questions as well, because I know that all my listeners are going to want to hear what you have to say. And they also want your opinion, by the way, on the show, they want to know you're obviously watching the season. I'm assuming as well, right? I'm watching episodes this.

I watch last week's episode twice. Sometimes we just run it back. Does your wife watch this with you? I need to know, do you guys watch together? Or is it something you want your own time? You know, yeah, we definitely watch it together. She, she got me into it because the way I fell into the housewives, I can't remember how many years ago this was, but the, um, I would be on a Sunday.

I can't remember it was your show or New York, but like every Sunday or Monday with football or Thursday, like, you know, she would be watching shows and I'd be downstairs watching football. And one one day I came upstairs and I had a bad day of fantasy football, everything. No, all my teams lost. And and she was like, no, nope, nope. I'm not changing to China. I go, I don't bad day of fantasy football. Everything, all my teams lost. And she was like, nope, nope, I'm not changing to child.

I go, I don't want to watch football anymore. I'll watch whatever you're watching. And I just just started watching with an open mind. And I was like, who's this? What's this person? No, what are they talking about? Oh, this is funny. And then once I just gave it like a little bit of an open mind

done, done in. once I just gave it like a little bit of open mind done. Done, done, done, in. And I always say that some people, especially like straight dudes, they'll be like, well, you watch it shit, you're a body watch. And I'm like, you're doing yourself a disservice. Like you're missing out by not watching it.

So you can judge without seeing it, but basically you're, you're losing. I'm winning by winning. You're winning, baby. You are winning 100%. Wait, let me just tell you this too. Joe and I, whenever you're on watch, what happens live, which I feel like they just

govern you. Like, so you're on watch. What happens? Maybe every six weeks we got to throw Michael Rappaport and write or wrong. I mean, you're probably their number one, like repeated guest. Yes, for sure. sure. Because you're such an opinionated guy on the housewise. And people love that we have like this straight man's view on the house. It's amazing, to be honest. So Joe

and I, whenever you are watching what happens, I we watch, especially when it's coming off of one of our shows, right? Because we wanna know what you're gonna say and your opinion, because it's like, yeah, everybody else is opinion matters, but we really wanna see what Michael has to say. So it's so funny, we watch it every time you're on and we are, I'm gonna just tell you, blown away. But you know what we said, how we said it,

where the scene took place, how long the scene was, I was like, what the fuck this guy knows, everything, like it's crazy. It's crazy. I love you guys and I love doing what happens. It's fun. That's another thing that just happened, you know, you say how to, you know, these things happen. It just happened organically.

I think I tweeted something about the housewives. You know, and the viewers love you. It's like Chrissy Tegan. She she knows she's watching every episode. She's tweeting. She's telling us her opinions. It's just you time. I don't fuck around with do you?

If I do the art episode and I don't watch it the day of it, because something major is going on or like, you know, like I sprayed my ankle There's a communion. There's a Something but I watch real real time. I watch in real time. Like I don't wait like oh, because the show comes on now Wednesday, right? This shows Wednesday yet. No Tuesday. I think we're on Tuesday nights. Yeah I think you see it. Oh, see it Tuesday, but but you know don't like, oh, it's on Tuesday. I'll watch it Friday. That's doesn't happen. Like it's real time. And I'm it's happening, you know, listen, I appreciate it. Iters and could help you find your perfect place.

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how are you feeling about this old news they put out and the switch up? Are you insulted, Byard? Are you excited for the new show that they might put together? Like, what are your real feelings on this? Being a housewife, listen, I get it, and I know that it could sometimes be a little hit if they don't pick you for certain things or use you for certain things.

So how do you feel? Right. Well, you know, my first reaction was, you know, I wasn't expecting that. You know what I mean? It was like, came out of left field for me. And but, you know, I understand why they were doing it. I think that, you know, it's very hard to put, you know put women into a group of friends where they really don't belong. Do you know what I mean?

You guys are all related, you have your families. In New York, it's more about friendships and not about family. Because we're New Yorkers and we're business women and we do fashion, we do. Anyway, so I think that it's harder to find people that are willing to do the show that fit with our group. So I think that that's a hard position to fill for the network.

And I think it's a great idea for them to bring back OGs. You know, I think people really want to see the OGs. I have a list that, you know, a laundry list of some of them I'd like to see come back. And, you know, and I think it's cool to do another spin off, which is, you know, the younger, more diverse side of New York. I mean, I'm, you know, listen, I've been doing this, this is going to be season 14 for me.

I've been doing for a long time. So, you know, I'm really, you know, I'm there, you know, if they're going to cast me on that show, you know, it'll be fun to do and do with all the OGs. You know, I don't want to be with a group of women that I can't relate to. So, so, and the other thing is, you know, I've got my Cabaret career, which is awesome and I'm going on tour and so I get to focus on that right now and, you know, other projects that I'm doing, like my today, my non-alcoholic sparkling, which I love that you, I think,

tasted when we were in Turks and K-Cos, which is, yeah, which I've got distribution on. So I'm working with Beth Mac, so I'm really excited about that. And so I've got a lot of great projects going on. And, you know, and Housewives will always be a part of me. And, you know, and if it works, I think it's gonna work really well to have an OG.

Why do you think they came up with the idea, by the way, Melissa? It's based really on the success of our trip. Of the housewives trip. Of that ultimate girls trip, you're saying. They want to see the OGs together, you know what I mean? Right, right. It was special.

It was special. It was very special. And, you know, I even wrote a song about it Did you hear the song F bombs on the G with the OGs? Yes, I die wait First of all just so you know, we're gonna get into all of the Luan stuff I want to talk about your cabaret. I want to talk about all your music Like we're gonna hit all of these things because I just think you're so great at like reinventing yourself and like Figuring things out and using your platform for better things, which is the entrepreneur in you, to be honest, that I

think people might not know about you because you know they do know this about you, but you really do have a great business brain. Like and I feel like even since I've met you years ago, it was always like a little bit of a business talk whenever I saw you. I know one time we had like a little power women business lunch at Michaels that one time with Bonnie Fuller Yeah, we did that one time. So yeah, we're gonna get into all of that But I do agree with you when it comes to like the ultimate girls trip I think put a really good taste in their mouth about what it's like to see kind of the OGs together and the power that that has.

And I think especially when it comes to New York, because you ladies are such a, I do think it's probably one of the hardest besides Jersey, because you're trying to cast family to cast because now say they do what the rumor is saying, which is they want to go super young, right? They want to go 30 year olds and bring in like, you know, young kids and this and that, which I don't know is true, but this is a rumor, right? Right. How are they going to mesh that life with what you guys have going on?

It's not going to make sense. Like, you're going to have nothing in common with these 32 year olds with young kids. You guys are going to be like, listen, been there, done that. Kids are older. I don't want to been there, done that, kids are older. I don't want to see a diaper for the rest of my life, and you're going to have not too much in common, right? So there is some sense to what they're saying is like, let's take our OGs, let's do something special

with them, and if we're going to have to recast, because with you guys, you can't mix Ramona in with this new, like say, she's like a 35 year old, little publicist, you know, with you guys, you can't mix Ramona in with like this new like say she's like a 35-year-old little publicist, you know, with little kids and a public like Ramona's just gonna like go crazy. I can't even, she doesn't mesh well, right? With like- I have great guys on them, but you know, great, so the great example I think for them was this real housewife's ultimate girls trip and it felt like the old days of housewives. Do you wanna mean there was just enough drama?

It was really more about women relating to each other. Having fun, good old fun. It felt like the housewives of the old days. And that's why I think that this idea came about was really that people really loved that show. And it was very successful for them. So I think that they're using that as a model and now they're even doing spin-off with Durinda

and Jules Aaron and that whole crowd in the Berkshire's. So I think that they're gonna start keep doing more of these trips and I think it's gonna be more commonplace that you're gonna see of the franchise. And you know, you have to evolve. You know, listen, life is about evolution and growth and you know, you just can't keep doing the same old, same old, same old, you know, I mean, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but I think that has a life, you know, expectancy, you know. And, you know, I agree, you know, God is

Jersey and, you know, there's a family and all that, but you know, and you know, look, I agree, you know, God is Jersey and, you know, there's a family and all that, but you know, who knows what happens at the end of the day, you know, you just never know from year to year, you know, what's going to happen. And so I think I think it's a smart move on

Brev was part. She was extremely candid with me about dealing with heart break while still trying to hold the family together. She's definitely one of the strongest women I know. Janna Kramer. extremely candid with me about dealing with heartbreak while still trying to hold the family together. She's definitely one of the strongest women I know. Jana Kramer.

You feel that he was making excuses basically for like with the whole like sex addict for the for things he was doing wrong, giving himself an excuse and you let that go for so many years and took that in as if he needed help when I feel like you feel like you were fooled at this point. Yeah, I mean, I definitely feel that for sure. And, you know, I had someone come on our podcast, and we talked about like how people in addiction sometimes, you have to like, you know, she was basically saying with that structure, you have to be very much like, oh, you know, and coddle them and it's okay, like, you know, you, just, but it's like, but us, like the victims were kind of like, wait a minute, you know, this is hard too. So, but there's on that side of it, it's like how they portrayed, like, there is abuse, there's gaslight, there's

manipulation, but they're like, well, I can't handle it. Like it's, I have an addiction, you know, so it's just, that's very hard to, when that person can't tap into any empathy, like it's very hard to even have any relationship around that because they, not the same he used it as it, but it is, you know, I'm powerless to it. It's like, okay, you're powerless to it, but can you have an empathy around it? Right. And it's also put you in a position where you want to be a good wife, right? And you want to help someone when they're down instead of leave them. And so it prolongs the time for you to like, when did you know it was time to let go? Like, enough was enough.

So it's interesting because there's so many people and I've asked that question like, well, how will I know when enough is enough? And it's like, I saw this quote too that just really stuck out for me, but they said, when staying, when, when, when staying is more painful than leaving, like that's when you know, and I remember this last go around when, you know, I discovered more stuff. It's like time after time when I took him back. It's every time I took him back from something, it just, it made our relationship worse. In the beginning, it made it great because he's like, I'll never do it again.

You can trust me. And again, I'm the kind of person that's like, I do believe in someone fighting the good fight. There's miss-miss-haps in the marriage and you can work through it. Like I do believe people can grow and change, but that person that did what they did, has to have empathy,

and the other person has to be willing to work with them. But this last go around, after so many, I will never do this, and I did, and I'll never do this, and I did again. You just come to a point where you're just like, I'm now almost seven years in, and you're saying now the same thing I've heard

every year, I'm just like, and then honestly, my best friend manager who's also here, but she was just like, I cannot watch you stay and do this again. It's just like, you have to understand that he is not going to change, at least in this relationship. It's a circle. It just keeps going around and around.

And then you end up, it's another Christmas. It's another Easter. And you're like, wow, we're still, I still feel the same way I did last Christmas. And then it circles again, it's like this birthday, I feel the same way I did. And you start to realize like, when do I get off the ride? When is it time to jump off? Never going to stop.

And I remember what clicked for me was I went on a meeting for Sex Addict wives. And I'm sitting around this meeting and I see people that have been married for 40 plus years. And they're like, he did it again. And I'm like, I can't beat, I can't beat like, do this. Like I'm, you know, about to be 30. I just, I just can't do this.

I'm like, the anxiety that I feel, I'm just like, I just cannot do this. And then like, you know, about to be 30. I just, I still just can't do this. I'm like, at the anxiety that I feel, I'm just like, I just cannot do this. And then, like, you know, hearing my friends based on intervention with me, sitting me down, like enough. And I was like, you know, we, like, it was, because, you know, he blamed like the, you know, being too hard about a sharing our story.

But that's not a reason to do X, Y and Z. So it's like, it's just one of those things where it's like, they're always gonna have a reason or an excuse for their behavior, and I just had to stop the cycle. And I hope that he's better in his next relationship. You know, he won't have all the, and he even said, he's like, you know, he was never probably going to stop

because he was always in the wrong. Like he always had, so it's like, Martin M. Right. He just knew that it was more of the same. Right. Yeah. So who knows? Well, I applaud you for doing an ad.

It was not hard. I mean, it was like, and I think it was one of those things, too, because one thing that really frustrated him was like the day that I filed, I put on Instagram that we were separating. He's like, you couldn't even give me a second. I was like, if I did not post that immediately, I would have taken you back. Like that's how that's like how much he was my drug. Like if I didn't put it out to the world, I would have taken him back probably like within a week or so. I would have filed, I

would have done all that and then I would have let his words seat back in. I'm like, I had to make it public. Or I would have let you back in. Because that's how much you were my drug. I actually get that it almost like it almost makes you like feel responsible like when you put it out, you're like now there's no turning back. It's almost like when you tell your mother, like your husband cheated on you. It's like once you tell them and tell your family, it's like, now I'm never gonna go back because no one's gonna allow me to go back. I know, can you imagine if I put it out there and then I went back, like there's no way I could have done that.

So like I knew that's what I had to do. No, I get that. That was your little way of like, you know, making it stand, making it stick, which whatever you need to do, look, it worked, right? Besides the fact that listen, you're in your prime, you're doing awesome. You really are. You look amazing. You're young.

I don't believe in, I know a lot of people for the kids and this is another thing. You know, they stay and I get trying, which is what you did. And I have many girlfriends who do the same. You keep trying when your kids are toddlers and when they're young, but I don't believe in that. Like, let's wait until everyone's in high school and college and then separate because you wasted all of those years. And there's gonna be so much resentment

because when you are 45 years old, you're gonna look back and say, oh my God, why didn't I do this 10 years ago? And, you know, and it's not easy to do that. I know I'm saying it like it's easy because I know there's a lot of women out there that, you know, would love to just jump off the train right now. And it's not easy.

There's always financial stuff. There's, you know, but you're very lucky and it was ballsy to do. And I know it's not easy being a single mother. I mean, how is that? Is that been a lot different for you? Yeah, I mean, I definitely, and I thought about this too, I told my one girlfriend Sarah, I was like, you know what?

I was like, what if I just turned a blind eye, let him do whatever he wants to do? That's why we stay as a family. It's fine. Like, I've got the kids together. I mean, the kids, you know, and she was just like, you're never, she's like, do you want your kids to feel that energy that you have around him? Do you want your kids to feel that energy that you have around him?

Do you want your kids to like, because they're gonna see it, they're gonna see it all of your face. Like you can't pretend. And that's when I was like, okay, you're right. But I think in the beginning, it was really hard because I was so angry. And it's like when, in my son, like, you know,

bless, he's, he still has really hard days on transition days, like he'll scream daddy. And I wanna just fire off and be like, you did this. what I mean like you separated our family now I have to witness my poor son so upset when you know when when we separate or when you know when he comes back from your house and it's like so that that part's really hard because you know they ask questions like you know mommy why can't you live at daddy's or and I'm like well you know like we're just better after friends so I think that piece is hard. And but that's the only piece that's hard besides that, like I'm a happier mom.

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The old something about family like it's the old feelings always come back like we we hold a grudge. I think a little bit. You know the way completely different way to which is right so like a different situation like you know them too well, you know. Yes, you know them too well and it's almost like we you know them too well. And it's almost like we hate that we're like, we hate that there's someone there that like we like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we know about this. We know about that.

You know, you know them to well, they know you to well. It's just all it's just a completely different situation. Yeah, it gets a little, it gets a little tricky. But I always say like it's, it's one of the hardest things.

And I don't really think anyone really gets that besides you and your sisters and you know Joe Gorgah and Teresa and I think we're all very similar and we're all very like tight with family like you are so great talking about family you have four beautiful daughters right you have DL who is another which I kind of understand this which listen you amorecy are so much fun and Joe and I love you guys we have a great time whenever we're like at dinner with you guys I feel like our men have really great personalities and they're a little bit more forefront. They're good guys. They are

they're good guys they're family guys they're all about their wives and their kids which you know God bless them they really are they're all about their wives and their kids, which, you know, God bless them. They really are. They're awesome that way. But it gets rough sometimes. Know when you have like this handsome husband and girls are, and I know you and I have talked about this before, but girls, you know, they get a lot of fans. They have their own fans. They have their own DMs going on from random women around the world. And like, you know, they have their own little fan base of women who kind of think they're good looking, right? And they will literally tell you right to your face or they'll tell them right to their face.

I mean, how do you handle that? Does it get rough for you sometimes? You know, in the beginning, it was so funny because to me, you know, when I met my husband, he was just a nice Jewish guy, you know, and, you know, I just was like, I of course course, I used to hand some, but then we started the show, and then we started doing these polls, and I was like, everybody get lost. Like, this is my little best kept secret. You know, um, but he, I mean, we laugh about it now, but of course,

it's been times as we're like, he doesn't, he never knew how to work his Instagram. So he'd be like, how do you post this? How do you look at this? So now actually my daughter helps him on his Instagram. But so I remember once I was like looking through his phone and you know how we get those the DMs, but like when you're, when you have a lot of followers, like they get lost in the plus 99 requests.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I look at this and it's like, hey, if you're ever in of followers, like they get lost in the plus 99 requests. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I look at this and it's like, hey, it's your ever in whatever area, let's hook up, you're hot. And I was like, I'm, I can kill you. And I started getting, like finding myself getting in a bad mood,

but I didn't want to, like mad at him, but he didn't even know about the DM. And you're like, you wanted to give him a mad attitude. Yeah, but he's like, didn't even know about the DM. And you're like, you wanted to give him an attitude. Yeah, but he's like, doesn't even know the things. This and I was like delete, block delete, block. He doesn't even know. And I'm finding myself getting so worked up. So then, you know, but that, that was a while ago.

Now I just kind of laugh, whatever, you know, just like laugh it off. But I will say in the beginning, it is definitely rougher. I didn't know how to handle it in the beginning. And I was like, insulted that these women would actually take the time to like write this little message to him. And they would say to him, like, even now he's doing like some comedy shows and they'll be like, when you're in Boston, stop by here. I'm the waitress. And I'm like, what? Yeah, I will literally cut you.

The fun. You and I are so similar like that. Like you, we are very like a good jealous. I call that a good jealous. Yeah, I guess I don't know. I don't like feeling like that, but I am like that. And my husband, he just sings some, you know, ridiculous and funny, but. I mean, yeah. I don't know, I don't get those DMs. I mean, I like so like,

I mean, I don't know. I just don't get those kind of DMs. When I do, I'm like, oh my god, look at this. So upsetting this person, this person wants to tell me how gorgeous I am. It's a man who's flirting with me. I can't believe how gorgeous I am. I'm telling you how gorgeous I am. I'm telling you how gorgeous I am. I'm telling you how gorgeous I am. I'm telling you how gorgeous I am. I'm telling you how gorgeous I am. I'm telling you how gorgeous I am. I'm telling you how gorgeous I am. I'm telling you how gorgeous I am. I'm telling you how gorgeous I am.

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Um, you just got done filming. Correct. You're done. You guys are done. Done with primary shooting. We still have the dreaded interviews for months. I am still, first of all, we are on air. Just just so you know, we're on air tonight. You know, we're on air right now.

Okay. I am still doing interviews that are getting put into the episodes like in in five minutes. Like literally, I leave the favorite thing to do. The torture of the it's only now they used to do us for six hours straight. Now they only give us like a three hour interview, which I can handle. I could never handle the six hour interviews, but the three hour I can handle, you know, I mean, we go from morning to night and you're just like, Oh, I don't want to. I'm like, what exactly? Oh, that's right. Oh, that's not really not about that. It's like you rehash and I don't even want to. I've been there and done it. I'm like, I don't even want to talk about this bitch again. I want to talk about it. I mean, it's your your season good. What do you feel when you're done? You know, what kind of season you have. Do you have like, what kind of season is it? Well, did you hear Andy said that it's the best first episode I've ever seen and he cried. Oh, no, no, no, no,

I did not hear that. Yes. So that was pretty telling. I'm hearing really incredible things, you know, from episodes that are already being put together now for the premiere. And just obviously living it, I think the audience is not going to be disappointed. And now, because you know he would go on all day long, a little clip from my interview with Joe Gorgah. I was in mode, so I go back and I start chopping at this dirt with the pick. I'm working, I'm working, and I guess my phone, and when I work and I lift, if I lift weights, I grunt a lot.

And I, he is a grunter. I will give you that. Like when he's in the gym, he's in bar, He's that guy that everyone looks at like look at this loser Yeah, you are you're like Yeah, you're like an overachiever one of those guys like What happened? Yeah, but listen like work out of your own basement Yeah, but now so dramatic now my wife works out hard and what do she do? No, I don't I don't do that. Yeah, I'm gonna be a

Bar is the Grunt you do you grunt you do my laugh at you Public service announcement don't grunt in the gym. It's weird Only like a little grunt here and there But I hate the guys in the corner like doesn't matter that It doesn't matter the the amount of weight you lift, it's the grunt that's mad. Okay, let's get back to the story. Because now, now you're making me anxious.

And I'm going to have to tell my sadness. So now I'm working, I'm hitting a start, I'm chopping it up, I'm making these noises, my phone rings. I mean, calls her on accident. Yeah, so, okay, let me tell a story. Let me tell you this part. I'm calling Joe, he's not answering. It's 8.30 on Sunday morning. He's not answering. I call probably two times in a row. Not answering. Well, I guess eventually his phone picks up by itself in his pocket. And Joe is

sitting there and he is, he says that he has a shovel or some kind of like rake shovel thing and he is going to pick a pick. Okay, he's banging the dirt. Which is the dirt was like concrete because it was frozen. Supposedly. So she's hearing the bang. But he's also speaking during this everyone and I guess so Joe says his phone and his pocket is really ruffling up and I'm hearing No, no, no, yes, I am Okay, I am hearing the moans. I heard the word. I heard the D word

I don't want to say in what aspect. I don't know how I heard it, but I heard that yeah I was probably swan here's what I was you were Yeah, I was probably swan. Well, here's what I was doing. You were swearing. I was mad at my sister so I was chopping at the dirt and I'm like, fuck dick. I was saying words which was, it wasn't nice. So then my wife calls me back. She keeps calling me. My hands are full of dirt. I finally answer the phone.

I think we got to go. I think we got to go to me on the other end first. Thanks. Okay. So as he has no idea what's going on and I listen to him grunting, moaning, I swear I hear a woman saying, he's not answering the phone, saying the word, like I think I heard the word, you know, the D word. And I heard you say dick. So I'm hearing that I'm, I now, this is me, Melissa Gorga, never had, never experienced show cheating on me before, never had any issues with that.

I hear it clear, I hear the mones, I hear the ruffling, whatever it is in this pocket of the movement, everything. I literally, this is me in my bedroom. I'll never forget it to this day in my pajamas. I fall to my knees, literally fall to my knees. My hands start shaking. I can't believe it's all happening. I can't believe it's happening.

I literally like lose my mind. I'm shaking. So now I'm speed dialing his phone to try to break up the sex that I think that he's having. So I'm speed dialing. She faced time. Nope, nope, nope. He answers. He finally answers.

I am now screaming into the phone shaking, crying hysterically. How could you do it? I can hear you. I can hear you. Like, I'm on the floor I'll never forget Antonio walking in my room and like she's like mom I could just go up I'll be right out. I'll be right out. I'm on my knees on the floor Crying to Joe and he's like what he's mad. He doesn't react nice like honey. No, I would never he's like

Shot the hell. What the frig is wrong with you What do you say I was like? Oh, I heard you I heard you I can hear you like I was You want me to be nice that I leave five o'clock and I want to work hold on I leave four thirty in the morning I'm busted my ass. I'm chopping dirt to get this household to make money for us and here you are to get this household to make money for us and here you are accusing me of having sex. I like to have your side. No, so you want me to be nice? Okay, but I'm giving my side. I'm going out.

So now he's mad and to me when a man is caught, they, what they do is they get crazy and they get nastier. Yes. And they're like, you know what, FU, you crazy bitch. I'm out here working. What the fuck? And he hangs up on me. And I'm sobbing on the floor and I'm like, oh my god,

when they get caught, I feel like they get nasty. If he wasn't, he'd be like, honey, he'd start laughing at. What are you crazy babe? No, no, no, no, no. But when I put the icing, hold on. When I put the icing on the cake, now I'm like, holy shit, you hung up on me. Now I'm going to FaceTime him.

Now I'm going gonna FaceTime him. Now I'm gonna FaceTime him. I hit the FaceTime, he doesn't answer the FaceTime. Because I'm blown out, saw. Now I'm completely, completely convinced that what I heard is true. She called me 6,000, I answered the FaceTime. No, no, you didn't answer the FaceTime, I took you, you know when you answered the FaceTime,

when you got the face time when you Got back in your truck and maybe sent the girl home who the hell knows? Oh, I was in the middle of the street Bang in a girl in my truck. No, it's called when you work in and you're laying sod if anyone knows the laying sod your hands of full of mud So I couldn't answer the phone so Finally and but let's let's clear. Let me clarify one more thing. Let me just ask like, can I clarify one more thing? I'm sure there's a lot of girls out there. If you're listening, I'm sure there's a lot of you who have felt this way before. Right? Has anyone ever felt this way before? But

when they feel convinced that they know, or they're coming to conclusions. Your speed dialing, you're going crazy, you need to hear their voice, you need to get them on the phone. Like, I know I'm not the only girl out there who's dealt with this before. But let me clarify this. This has, she's, you've of two, like, I leave her all in the morning and she'll get up at 7 30 eight o'clock and she'll call me and I'm working so hard. And she's like, what are you doing? I go working. I'm me and I'm working so hard. And she's like, what are you doing? I go working. I'm maybe I'm married to everything.

And I'm like, I'm working. And she's like, well, then who you with this morning? I'm like, who you bangin'? I'm going, so now when you did this, I hung up the phone on you. Because I'm like, oh my god, here we go again. All right, but why don't you get back to just this subject for a second? That's your security from growing up, right?

Yes, but hold on, I want to get back to the story. I to get back to the subject because you don't have a lot of time. So, oh, well, you don't. OK, so getting back to it, I'm freaking out. I'm calling him. He's not answering the FaceTime. So to make a long story short, I then go ahead and tell him not to come home. I'm freaking out. I absolutely 100%.

He's like, I'm working. What are you talking about? My phone's in my pocket. You know, you swore you were shoveling, you were cursing out loud because you were in a bad mood. You had an argument with your sister earlier, you were cursing out loud. And I was hearing all of these words in this grunting

because your phone was in your pocket and you were digging into like frozen ground, right? That's your story in St.Cat. Yes. Okay so to make a long story short I literally don't believe him. I am convinced on what I heard it was my own years my own eyes it wasn't like a girlfriend or someone coming to me saying hey we heard something and I tell him not to come home. My mother my sister you could tell the story of when you said. So listen she tells me not to come home. My mother, my sister, you could tell the story of when you did. So listen, she tells me not to come home. I ignore her.

I'm like, she's crazy. I keep continuing to work. I guess an hour and a half, two hours, three hours later, I drive home. I come home and guess what? Her mother and her sister are there and they're from down the shore. It takes an hour and a half to get there.

She called them, oh my god, they come running up. My, my, I open the door. My sister in law looks at me like I'm the devil. She goes, oh, I can't believe you. I said, what? And then the mother and my mother die for Joe. They love me. They're always team Joe. They love me. But you know, and then the mom, the mom, all of a sudden, she goes, joy, cannot believe you I go are you kidding me I was so aggro I was so mad. Oh my God. Let's be honest ladies everyone your parents you sister the fam always takes our. Yeah, I was so mad at them but see they just and their father was a cheater and and right. Yeah, I would. Your father. He was a player, which is, I never met him. I did grow up with, you know, my father did stray a lot.

Right. He was, he was one of those guys. He was a player who was a cool guy, whatever. I never met him because he passed away. So they're kind of like, okay, you cheated. They want to hang you, the family, right? The man I wasn't even cheating. So I came and I was so shocked in the, my, my, my, especially with my mother-in-law, she's like, I can't believe you.

So then I'm like, all right. So then I walk outside and I go take a shower because I'm full and my mom, especially with my mom and mom, she's like, I can't believe you. So then I'm like, all right. So then I walk outside, I go take a shower, cause I'm full of mud. I go, what do I do? What do I do? Just roll in the mud. So I go take a shower, come back down. Basically, I just have to sleep out that night.

I didn't want him to sleep home. I come down to see if she's laying on a couch, on a floor crying. My mother gave me a Xanax. The mother, the, yeah, it was a disaster. I go up to, it was a disaster I go up it was ruined the entire day was it job whenever you're doing that morning was it so then so then so then the next day I go to work I leave in the morning she

calls again crying the mother's there again then I'm figuring out I'm like holy shit I'm like this is serious it took a minute it was like a day and a half and I finally said like what am I gonna get divorced over this? I want to work and here's the things and I'm cheating and then she goes like this you You know I set it up and and I'm gonna call no, that's not what happened. So now he goes and he I Don't let him sleep home that night. He doesn't sleep home that I should go to work the next day Either you didn't sleep home or you slept on the couch and I slept in the bed. Yes, and we didn't speak. And then he goes to work the next day.

And I call him and I say, okay, you're not coming home tonight. It's like until you prove this to me because I heard what I heard and I don't believe you. And this is where the lie detector test comes in. I set up a lie detector test and I said, meet me at full time. You're a sick one. You're sick. Meet me at such and such a dress at 2 p.m.

You're gonna take a lie detector test. And I said, you pass it good for you. I said. And if you don't, you're not coming home. Hey guys, I'm Sam, and I'm Taylor. We were just internet strangers who moved across the country to become roommates.

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Here's a clip from my interview with Lala Kent. Love her. But anyway, for Vanderpump, how was this season? Was it crazy? It was. Can I tell you, it's very hard for me to watch this season, just with everything that has now happened in my life and things that I now know. To watch back, I mean, a lot of my comments didn't age well. And I always say, I'm okay with that, because I was just in the dark. And how I could be living in the dark

and sleeping next to someone who I don't even know. Oh, yeah, I just got the chills. It's, I know. I think about, I think about this daily and how, you know, I don't even know him. And with what I do know to be honest, I don't want to know him. Right. I, I mean, life, life. It's like one of those things where that is scary. That is scary. It's like you can be standing next to someone, sleeping next to someone and not even know who you're dealing with. And that has to be one of the scariest things in the world, to be honest.

Like my heart goes out to you for all of that and everything that's going on. Because that is that's scary. I mean, how are you dealing with that mentally? Are you, you know, you're, you're doing well. I mean, you're here. You look great. You're alive. You have that baby.

So it's like how it's hard, right? It's hard. Like because there's a lot of people that go through this sort of thing in life. And, you know, a bomb gets dropped on them. And it's like, how do you pick yourself back up and say, like, no, there's a lot of life left. We're gonna become brand new, okay? Okay, no pun intended.

We're gonna brand new. We're gonna come out on a fashion line. We're gonna just do this. Like, that's my girl. That's what I like. You just pick yourself up and you make the best of it. And that's awesome. Like, how you're yourself up and you make the best of it. And that's awesome. Like how you're handling it is amazing.

Well, thank you. I think I love that you asked this question because my eight month old doesn't care if bombs are dropped in my lap. She, I have to support her. I'm a single mom now and I have to work. I have bills to pay. I have things to support her. You know, I'm a single mom now and I have to work. I have to, I have bills to pay. I have, you know, things to pay for.

And I just, I feel like I wake up and I wonder, give me one sec. Oh my God, I wanna hug you. I wanna reach out and hug you right now. You're being so strong. You really are. Thank you. I'm sorry. I know how hard it is. No, this is totally fine.

I wonder often where I'm getting straight from. And obviously I see my daughter and I know exactly where my strength is coming from, but I'd be lying to you if I said that they're, you know, this whole experience has been traumatizing and it haunts me daily, you know, I'm sure. And to have a conversation about starting a family and him knowing the life that he was living behind my back. And him make me feel safe enough to bring this beautiful innocent life into the world is hard. It haunts me like I said daily and you can relate to this you. You sometimes hit a certain point where you have to you have to hand it over to God. There's no person in the world who's going to make this okay and you need a higher power. And my relationship with my higher power and the universe right now is extremely profound and I'm grateful for it because when it becomes too much, I mean, I'm telling you God takes over. I sleep well at night. But you're preaching to the choir because you know that is exactly what I would

tell you all day long. I know that. I have just driven to a church in my weakest moments when I'm solving over things that you wouldn't even believe. And I just sit there and I talk and I leave their feeling a sense of relief. Right. I truly believe that when you're at your worst, that's the best route to go. So I'm I'm personally so happy to hear that that's that's what you're doing. Because the truth is let go and let God. And I've always said that.

And I love that that's what's getting you through. And to be honest, there's no one I don't believe there's anything else that will get you through besides that and your beautiful daughter. I think so too. And I don't talk about God much. I mean, I grew up always, you know, saying prayers in bed with my dad and my little brother. So it was, you know, God was big in my family. But, you know, I just feel like it doesn't need to be spoken about because everyone has their own belief and I don't want to push mine on you. spoken about because everyone has their own belief and I don't want to push mine on you. But in times like this and people are asking me what's getting you through, that is it. Because I always say God won't take you to what He can't take you through. And of course, here I am still standing and I don't even know how it's happening. So that's a little advice from me.

I'm a little older than you. You are young. You are still young. You are, I love that you have that work ethic. You really are, you're like on the move. You're not going to sit down. You're, we all have to cry, right? We all go through things where, you know, we feel like the world is ending. And it's emotional because you have this beautiful baby that you want to feel all the joy, a nine month old baby. They make us laugh. They're like, it's the best age. It's like incredible.

And then you have this other part that's bringing sadness that you almost feels like taking that joy away from you. And that's where you need to fight it. And just keep getting up every morning, keep doing what you're doing, keep going to work. I mean, the fact that you are a mom in business, right? And you have all these platforms and this opportunity. And you're just, no, you're a strong girl.

You're known to be, you know, you're known to be a bull, like a strong, you're not a passive person. And that is what your daughter's gonna see. She's gonna know one day, I'm sure she'll hear it one day. Not that you want her to, but you never know. One day she might and she's going to know how you got her through that and how strong you were and all of your brands and everything that you've created during that time and how you didn't fall down. I know exactly what you're saying. Every move that I make since I sound out I was having her has she's the first thought in my mind and you

can relate again you have children so everything I do is for ocean and I'll be damned if what someone else has caused is going to affect my daughter and her happiness even though she's she's young I'm big on, and I'm not bringing it around her. You know, I have to put on a smile and a happy face because this moment is fleeting. She's not going to ever be this age, ever again. And no one is going to take away from me relishing in these moments.

I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. I will talk to you all next week with another new episode. Take care and brush your hair. Oh you