On Display with Melissa Gorga - Facetune, Fillers, and Forever 21 (w/ Teddi Mellencamp)

Episode Date: June 16, 2022

Melissa sits down with TV personality, accountability coach, and podcast host, Teddi Mellencamp, to chat about her Real Housewives experience, friendships before and after the show, and what she ultimately thinks led to her not being asked back as a series regular.  Teddi also shares a shocking rumor surrounding the MTV Awards show, and answers the question we all want to know: "Who is the one housewife you would never invite onto your podcast?" This week's sponsors:  Apartments.com - Apartment Rentals: apartments.com Splendid Spoon - Plant-Based, Read-to-Eat Meals: splendidspoon.com/melissa ($50 off first box) 

You're listening to Melissa Gorga on display with me, Melissa Gorga on podcast one. Like it's gonna sound bad, but when you're on Beverly Hills and you're wearing your Forever 21 dress and somebody else is wearing full Louis Vuitton head to toe, you feel it. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. I'm going to be back. Okay, what's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of Melissa Gorga on display. You guys know I get so excited when I

have housewives because you guys all love them so much. And you know, I just have to get them all the credit for, you know, making my career. Shall I say that to Bravo? But this is what I'm excited about. You've seen her on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and now she co-hosts her very own successful podcast to tease and applaud with Tamara,

who I love so much, ladies and gentlemen, it's Teddy Melanchamp. Hi, how's it going? Are you recovered? I'm recovered, I'm recovered. It was so good seeing you. I feel like we didn't get we were all just at the for my listeners. We were all just at the MTV movie and TV awards unscripted, but I feel like we all didn't get to talk that much. Like Beverly Hills. It's a small little table. Is it normally it's like a bigger tables? I feel like

but this time it was like four or five people per table. I agree. Yes, and I saw that you guys were all kind of like split up as well, right? You guys weren't all at the same table because there's so there's so many of you guys. And then every time somebody would stand up, they'd bring a seat filler in. So then I'd be like, do we know this part, you know, and then it was so sweet. Do you want to hear the funniest story about a seat filler? So I got up with Teresa to like go present. And I guess a couple seat fillers came to my table. And my husband had no idea what a seat filler was.

He didn't even understand. Joe didn't even know what he this guy was doing sitting next to him. And Joe's like, I don't know. Some guys sat here for a while. I was talking to him and I don't know who he was. What do you think he was? What show do you think he's on? I was like, Joe, that's called a seat filler doll. He's like, a what? And I'm like, seat filler. Like when you get up so that on TV, it doesn't look

like an empty place. Like they fill your seat. He's like, I've never heard of such a thing in my life. I'm like, Oh, then did he all just think we were also like lunatics? Because all of a sudden, we'd all stand up and start like dancing because The the camera guy would come over and he'd be like, I'm gonna have to say Like be excited like no, he legit had no idea. I mean in his defense I mean, we listen we've been to the VMAs. We've done things. We brought why is he so confused He just had a full-blown conversation with this guy. I guess the guy just assumed that Joe would know he's damn seat filler.

Anyway, that just brings me to that. I giggled at him, him and me and my friends actually laughed at Joe for like 20 minutes over that. We were just like, it was hysterical. But anyway, it was so good to see all of you guys there. And I do love, I have to say, I do love seeing you like with the cast, even Tamra. I know you I have to say I do love seeing you like with the cast even Tamra I said I know you guys have like this podcast. Do you feel different when

you're like around the girls like around the ladies because you're no longer on the show. Well I think last year if this would have been the same circumstance it it would have felt weird to me because there's that first year that you're not on that you feel like the sadness even though a part of first year that you're not on that you feel like this sadness, even though a part of it is like you're very grateful for it. You're you just have that set. You'll see a picture that will make you feel sad or whatever it is. I don't know, sad is the right word. Maybe it's phomo or there's just something. But now, you know, kind of once I made the decision, like when even this season when I appeared on it, I wasn't

mic'd. I was working for extra like I was like now that I've separated from it and now it's two teas in a pod and that's my focus. I can just look at them like my friends. They don't have to be my friends just from the show. And I think that's what's different about Jersey or Beverly Hills is like you have real relationships within these shows where some of them there there isn't. Correct. Some of them there's not. They're literally just cast on. They work with them. They play with them. And then when they they move on, they move on, you know, and it's like it's over and done. And I feel like you do have tight relationships with the show. But before even getting into that,

I, first of all, I wanna tell you, your dress that you wore, that pink dress, Bronx and Bonko, correct. Right. I almost wore the dress. I don't know, it was in my home. I tried it on, I'm good friends with the designer Natalie. I tried it on.

It made me feel boxy. Like, I, it wasn't hugging me correctly, but I loved the color. I get to the red carpet. You happen to be like a couple of people in front of me. You're, and I'm like, oh my God. Thank God. I didn't choose that dress because I almost had the exact same dress as you.

I was dying. Well, have you seen all the heat I got from that dress? So what happened? You posted a picture and what social media is being rude to you? Yeah, well, I mean, they're big. And now it's actually fine. But you know when you're on the red carpet and they're like, give us a look back shot or whatever it is.

Right. Yes. So you're like, look back. And so there was a picture. And, you know, I have cellulite on the back of my legs. I knew that before I left. Like, it is what it is. And we all do as most of us do.

And I had the choice. I could have gone on the face app or use FaceTune and make it all smoothed out or do whatever, but I didn't and people started messaging me. Why would you do that? Why would you, why would you address the showed your cellulite to, I think it's inappropriate would you do that? Why, you know, why would you, why, why would you wear a dress that showed your cellulite too? What, you know, I think it's inappropriate

that you did that, three, you have children, four, like aren't you embarrassed to show, you know, there's all kinds of things. And for, for me, it was like, I would, I laugh at the ones where the comments are like, you look like you're auditioning for dancing with the stars, like, I think that's hilarious. I kind of did.

Like, but that's the vibe of this dress. It's a fun dress. I almost wore the damn dress. It's a fringy, fine, like that's to me. If I'm being looked what I wore, I wore bright yellow because to me MTV Awards is not gowns. It's like the bright, vibrant, young, fine. Go have fun.

And something you're going to, you have it wouldn't normally wear. Like, yeah, I'm not going to wear that to my daughter's piano or cydle. But at the empty, young, fine. Go have something you're going to, you have it wouldn't normally wear like, yeah, I'm not going to wear that to my daughter's piano or cytl. But at the empty like, I wanted to go and have fun. But I pretty much I said something about it. And then ultimately people really came out. Thank you for showing that. Thank you for saying that. Because you know, I salute you for I come on, we can't fix every little piece of our bias. I have cellulite. We I think most women have cellulite. Like it's just a thing. I mean, I'm not saying everyone, but

like, how could you? I mean, you should be if anything, I would think you'd be praised for showing the picture with cellulite because it shows that you're like, yes, I'm human, I'm a woman, I have some cellulite. I still look amazing. I mean, you looked amazing in that just your hair, yes, I'm have some cellulate. I st I mean, you looked amazi your hair, by the way, short your thing. Like don't e long exams. I'm so over t

long extensions. And I don on my show loves them so I love me some long, m with tracks always showing never telling me. And th you that it's like sticking some long ridiculous ext always showing and a prod producer doesn't tell you out. Like I'm so over th shorter and shorter and

I just like cut it off. I there. Um, but I love yo just start by saying that and fresh and it just look different. Right? Easy. different. Crazy. I was so many years of extensions. I was just like, I need a break. I need to just see how this goes and you know what, I have a little fun with it

and so far so good. But come fall like you see me again and I have hair, you know, down past my hip. Don't, you know, I did like it forever. Here's the thing. I like the extensions for the ponies. So I love a long pony and like, but other than that, like short and sweet, I like the extensions for the ponies. So I love a long pony. And like, but other than that, like short and sweet,

I just think your hair looks great. So, and so people are now applauding you, I'm sure for showing this cellulite. I mean, that's, you could have, I'm sure you saw whatever it is they're seeing and you chose not to perfect it or filter it. Yeah, and I mean, I think ultimately, once I said something, then everybody's like, oh, thank you for saying something.

But what I was saying, now I'm getting messages, I wish you wouldn't have said, and like you're feeding the haters or you're feeding the trolls whenever you make a comment like that. And truthfully, for me, it's not about that. Yes, I probably, if somebody says something about my kids or things like that, that's where I either like block or do whatever.

But if I'm noticing a trend in my DMs, which I look at way more now because I need to for the podcast for my business, all those types of things. And it's multiple people saying the same thing. Then I will address it in a public like stagnant post. And that's not because I'm feeding the haters. It's because I know this is obviously something we need to talk about. Because this is so upsetting to you that you're seeing my cellulite. This needs to be a bigger conversation. Yeah, well, that just goes into like bullying online. And I think as housewives, we experience probably, I mean, I mean, I don't want to discredit the Kardashians

or anything because I know they get it too. But like housewives really get a lot of opinions on our social media. I mean, I know you know it's never easy. We get good. We get bad, but we get it like everything. The Bravo fans are like no other. So your big on body positivity, mental health and physical health. Tell me about this accountability program that you've had for a few years now because this is not something new, right? So I've been doing all in for seven years. It's, you know, changed my life. It's been the only thing that's held me accountable to staying true to taking care of my mental and physical self and all of that. and we've changed over 20,000 lives at this point. But I think what people have a hard time understanding is when you talk about health and fitness, they think that means that you fit in this little box. And that's not what it is.

And it's not what it is for every single person. It's different. Maybe it's that you want to start walking daily and getting some fresh air and moving your body and eating a little healthier because you're at a job that you feel you're stuck at or you're in an abusive marriage that you feel like you're lost.

Whatever it is, but when you start taking care of yourself ultimately you build that confidence in yourself to make changes within your life. And that's why I'm so passionate about it. And you know, yes, I used to weigh over 200 pounds, I've lost and gained and lost and gained throughout my life, but this accountability, which I've been doing for, you know, since, you know, for over seven years, is, you know, the only thing that's ever worked for me, because now I have, I can't, I'm not just accountable to myself.

So you had this company that you work with and that you,, this was before housewives. So it was my company. When I first started housewives, I had 40 clients of my own and one assistant. Then I started housewives. And everybody had said, I wanted you to grow, I want you to do whatever. And it wasn't even a business when I first started. I had just started an Instagram account.

It was not a good name. It was LA Workout Junkie. And I said, it was in a really dark place in my marriage. I, you know, had postpartum severe anxiety and depression after my son. I had miscarried as prior. And instead of losing weight after having my son, I was gaining weight. And then I was feeling more and more alone looking to my husband to validate me, which is like, it's impossible. You have to be able to validate me, which is like, it's impossible. You have to be able to validate yourself.

And I was just seeing this vicious cycle and then I became a misery-loves company person with my other mom friends, or we'd all just bent. And I was just really unhappy. And then one day I just said, hey, I'm changing my life today and follow along if you're interested. And this was all before housewives.

And people started following. I mean, not like now, you know, but back then, when you get 10,000 followers, you're like, whoa! Well, when you're just like, right, I have nowhere and you get all these followers, that's a thing. 10,000 is a lot of followers. If you're not on a TV platform. If you're not on a TV platform.

And people, really because they wanted to see if I could succeed or if I was going to fail. And then what ended up happening was I used Instagram to start holding me accountable. And I did that for a year straight. Never made a dollar. It wasn't about anything but changing my life. And yes, people saw a huge physical transformation, but more so, they saw a difference in me as a human being. And then I started, you know, developing people saying, I want to do that, but I don't want to do it on Instagram. And so I started holding people accountable. I started housewives probably a year after that. And I had a, I had a small business.

My husband, you know, is a big, you know, entrepreneur type guy. And he kept saying, grow, grow, grow. I'm like, listen, I'm at a place where I'm fine. Like I have 40 clients. I don't need to ask you for money. Like I feel good. And then my first day on housewives, the amount of emails that you get. Oh, I'm like through my website was absolutely insane. And then my first day on Housewives, the amount of emails that you get. Oh, I'm like through my website was absolutely insane. And I had the moment where I had companies reaching out to me saying, we want to buy you, we want to just let's blow this out. Let's get thousands of coaches. And I was like, absolutely not because you wanted to do it personally. I said, I will do it personally and I will only promote from within.

So every single coach that I have within the company has somebody who's changed their life through the program. Wow. And so that way, though they had to work through you essentially to become a coach, they had to go through the program. They had to go through the program

for whatever their personal reasons were. It doesn't have to be the same reason as myself. It could be anything. Like, I don't have the best relationship with money and I don't know how to shop on a budget and here I'm we're gonna help you do that and then but you know whatever it is or I have postpartum or I just got a divorce and I'm a single mom and I don't know how to take care of myself and also take care of my baby and I feel alone and I want support. But also, it's easy to tell, like let's say you and I are best friends, it's easy to tell you where I'm gonna do something and then not do it. When it comes to me, you're not gonna like, but if you have skin in the game and you're paying for it,

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I also think of accountability when it just comes to housewives. I mean, it's like that is where you're like sitting there really having everyone needs to be accountable for what they said, what they did, what happened in their past at this, you know, whatever it may be, like the word accountability just crosses with housewives crazy. So I'm sure all of the skills that you had with that really like trickled into your role on the housewives as well.

Well, I mean, I think it trickled into the way, like some ways good, some ways bad. Like I would always have to say, you know, they didn't show it as much as they actually set it, but they'd be like, all right, Mr. Countable, and I'd be like, listen, I'm accountable to like, I'm going on a walk and I'm gonna be, I'm not accountable to all of these bad decisions

that we sometimes make on the show for everybody else to steer the shit or whatever it is that we're doing. So, I mean, I think ultimately, there are parts that people like to miss and she's like, I'm not an accountability for everybody's bad decisions that they've made, but I can say that I did a lot of rock things wrong on that show, and I did take accountability for them always.

So. How long were you actually, how many seasons did you actually film a show? I filmed the show for three years, three years. And what do you think ultimately was like the end of it? What do you think caused them to say, tell you how to go? Well, I think my very first season, um, I started out. Well, I'm, this is going to sound, I'm just going to be blunt with you. I'm going to be completely honest. I mean, I can be so blunt sound I'm just gonna be blunt with him to be completely honest. I mean I can be so blunt. I

Didn't have much money my husband had a lot of money, but I've always not been that person that's been comfortable to like I used to you know ride horses for a living and then I didn't have a ton of money I was making enough money to like support myself, but I dress different. I did everything differently I couldn't get glam. None of that stuff because you know how much you get paid your first season as a housewife. Zero. Like barely anything. I'm just going to say zero because after you pay for your first outfit and your first round of hair and makeup, you're at zero. Yeah, so they're ultimately you saw a version of me not any different than I am now, but somebody that, you know, I didn't go even though my dad had money, it wasn't like he gave me money or anything like that. Well, you know, and I can't lie to you if I'm being completely blunt.

The first thing, which is probably terrible, that popped in my mind when you said money, I'm like, well, where's Jaddy at? And like, right? And that's terrible. That's terrible. I admit that's a terrible thought to think, but you admit it. You automatically go to like, okay, where is John Mellingham at during this time? And like, would that be something that he would support you to be like,

I want you to do this here. Here's your hair and makeup money. Are you kidding? My dad will pay for is us to fly home to see him on the holidays. If we're like, yeah, like if we don't want to, he's like, I will spend, I will spend money to see you. And to spend time with you. But not your significant others, they can pay for themselves. Like that really, yes. Wow. Quick side to the left. Speaking of your dad.

Yes. How did he, did he enjoy watching you on the show? Or was he like, what are you doing on this crazy show? Or what did he feel about the show? The only thing he really got annoyed with me about is if I would cry. Because in our family, he is not like cry, he does not do well with crying.

Like unless something really terrible happens, like there's a death, like there's not like crying. Like you're not having an argument and then you cry. And he could not understand my first season. Like I think Erica said something to me and my eyes.. And he could not understand my first season. Like, I think Erica said something to me and my eyes. I didn't know how to handle it. And it's like, that's not who you are.

I've never known you to cry like that. Like, what is happening? And I'm like, I think it's the pressure of the cameras. There's something added. It brings out every emotion that you never even knew you had when it's alive on TV. Because it's just like you're doing it in front of... And then you start to tell me. You can feel the heat of the camera get close to you and then you're like

is this gonna am I gonna cry right now and then one girl will look at you and be like you're all right and then you're like I so ultimately he didn't want you to break down on TV he's who was fine with it he just didn't want you to because he probably couldn't watch you cry. He was probably like, I'm saying I'm sad. And then he was also, but also he was like, you know, he's the kind of like, what do you take that girl down? What do you mean? What do you mean you're sitting back crying and walking out? That's not who you were. I fight back. You know, right. He was like, no, no, no, you use your words. So my first season, you see a very, you know, like the close like Laura, who did your hair the other night?

Yes. Like her outfit that I wore to Vegas, that was hers that I borrowed because I didn't know what to wear to Vegas on a girl's face. She would literally take her outfit off her body and hand it to you that's right. So like that was who I was season one and it was really just me getting to know everybody and I formed really close relationships, you know, with a couple of the women, especially Kyle, as you know. But then people would start started to see me metamorphose, which wasn't necessarily me changing. It was just, I'm on a show where everybody is slammed almost every day. I couldn't afford it my first season. I wasn't buying his expensive clothes. Now I'm making more money. I'm doing paid post. I couldn't afford it my first season. I wasn't buying his expensive clothes.

Now I'm making more money. I'm doing paid post. I'm doing these things. And now I can't, my business has grown. Now, yeah, I want to go and sit at dinner and not be worried. Like, it's going to sound bad, but when you're on Beverly Hills and you're wearing your Forever 21 dress and somebody else is wearing full Louis Vuitton head to toe. You feel it? Of course you do. I get it. I get it. Listen, and especially with the ladies that you, I mean, Doreet is in full blown like head to toe Versace one day,

Fendi the next day. I mean, between her and Erica, it's like, it's like, it's different during $10,000 worth of clothing. Sorry, my dog's barking, because I'm full today instead of my, instead of my studio. They're literally, they're decked out and usually it's got to be a minimum of $10,000 between the bag, the shoes, the shirt, the shirts are fourth. I wait, come on. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. So it wasn't just that but so it's like so people love me my first season because I was in, you know, relatable or whatever. But you also saw my kids, my family, my life, my business, everything.

Cut to second season, I start to have an issue with Lisa Vanderpump. And then from that moment on, you also, you know, you're seeing an inflated version of me. All of a sudden, I'm wearing makeup, I have extension, you know, whatever it is. And I'm fighting with an OG of the show. And it's like, whoa, that's yeah. And then they want to look at you like, well, who are you? Like, who is this now with this makeup and this hair? And you want to fight with Lisa Vanderpump, like, get the fuck out of

here is basically what they want to say at that point. Because the fans are like, they would something about Lisa Vanderpump, she could do no wrong at the time on that show. And it's definitely her accent. I don't care if anyone says she can call you a see you next Tuesday. But when she says it in her accent with her puppy on her arm, she's just forgivable for everything. I always remember saying that like Lisa Vanderbump can literally say anything

five years ago on reality TV, the worst of the worst of the worst. And you're just like, oh, that was cute. You're like, ah, it's a matter of humor, whatever was. But I think ultimately the fact that she never showed up to that reunion. And many housewives prior to me tried to expose the things that she had done. And it was me that it ultimately happened with. And then by the time we were at my third season, I mean, you wouldn't have even known I was pregnant. I had

so they showed nothing of my personal life. Everything was about myself and Denise. And then I think it's hard to relate to people anymore. Right. And it happens. And I feel like your show or Beverly Hills, particularly, they recast a lot like every season, they get a couple new girls, it's just the easiest show to cast because you're in Beverly Hills, the money's there's the affluent women everywhere, right? And I feel like there's a lot of want to be like actresses out there too that want to be in this game and want to be an entertainment and want to do that. So I feel like you guys have the easiest, like when you have to cast, you find them in three seconds. You don't even know how hard it is to cast Jersey. It's next to impossible. But the differences with Beverly Hills is most people with like old money

aren't going to want to do this show. Because there's a lot of you get what I'm saying. So like, it's very like a lot of it is very new Voreesh. And those are the people that are gonna be okay to do it. And that's why you end up getting what you get. Yes, I get it. I get it. Same here very much.

So we have, I mean, New Jersey is, we're two minutes away from New York City with like the big backyard of the big homes. You would be surprised how many men it's the men. So it's like the husbands will say we want these women, but the husbands are like, absolutely. Yeah, why not?

Like, well, you can see why especially on Jersey, like, Oh my god, they're all like running for the hills. We can't cast anybody on this show. All the men are like, no, thank you. We like our lives and like we don't need everyone frying into

our business. Like, forget it. The men run a lot of them. But it's so funny because we also have the most involved men as well. But it's right. Like Joe and I came into the game. I was I was younger. I was 29. I was 30 years old. So it's like you, you, it's it's true. So casting is a whole other thing. Did you? I mean, when you first, so you met Kyle on the show because you two are extremely close friends. I feel like you definitely are the strong.

I'm the girl friend. Yeah. I can tell that you guys are girlfriends outside of that show that you have a true friendship. Did you meet on the show? We met, so the only people I met prior to going on our first housewife trip was Dari. They had her show up to like a mommy and me thing people I met prior to going on our first house wife trip was

Dari they had her show up to like a mommy and me thing that I had at the house. I don't even remember if they aired it and then I went to drinks with Lisa Vanderpump and Dari and then the next day I went on the jet with everybody to Las Vegas. And that everybody. And that's when I met Kyle, and that's when I met, you know, Erica and Rena and I can feel also even on that season. Oh, Camille was a friend of that season. So you just formed like a natural friendship with Kyle. Like you guys just clicked and you have like your husbands get along great, right? You guys just have like a real friendship.

Yeah, I mean, ultimately it just felt, you know, it took a couple weeks or whatever, but immediately she knew she's so funny. Like you could see it so much on girls trip where sometimes she is funny. I was her roommate for a week straight. We shared a bathroom. We took showers together. She was like, I was naked. We would throw soap at each other. Like, we had her and I really had. And I was like, we would throw soap at each other. Like we had her and I really had. And I was like, couldn't believe how funny she was. Because I don't fully show that to extent. Like they'll show funny professionals on Beverly Hills,

but like she is hilarious. She is a good friendship. And I'm sure you can even say this about her from this smaller time that you spent. It feels effortless with her. It is. She's just easy. She laughs.

I relate to her. I always have from from the beginning when I got on this show. We always just clicked when we would meet at Bravo events or whatever it was at the time. The upfront instantly, Kyle and I, I always had said we'd met in Vegas before we've done. You know, I met Lady Gaga with her wife. Oh, yeah.

So we've always had, she's just easy to me. I agree. And I think's, she's so funny. And I think sometimes the so and so, like normal people on the shows for lack of a better word. I don't, like, please don't crucify me, listeners. I, for lack of a better word, like the ones that don't come out with this so crazy, like a Kyle for instance, like someone like you, like someone like me,

the ones who kind of like hold it down in a different way on the show and are the other side of the show. Sometimes we get a little slack for not like doing the crazy or not throwing the wine in someone's face or not saying the most ridiculous thing that you've ever heard. And I always struggle, like I always think that's unfair. That's the one thing about Housewives where you you get, you know, they take their hat off to you and get very praised the more, you know,

the worse you act, you know, and the crazier things you say. But I think what people forget, not only in every friend group, do you have all different types of people, but for the people that may be more like you or like me in that same setting is, what people don't understand about when they're watching the show is there has to be someone that's moving storyline. It is a necessity of it. Nobody's going to sit there and talk about the weather and they're not going to air it and nobody cares what your favorite television show is. Yeah, no one cares. So, even if you in the moment don't think that Melissa is doing something or not sure that I'm doing something we everybody knows it's natural. It's real, but people

know their jobs. I personally think even though yes, it is authentic. I know I was sitting in a dinner and we're hour three and and we're all looking at our text messages knowing that something needs to happen. Like they're not going to tell us what to do but they're going to be like someone has to bring our set so and so said to so and so and so and blah. Or what you read online yesterday. Like someone needs to mention that this article just came out. I mean, of course and I think the fans are hip to that at this point anyway. They obviously know. But I sometimes think they miss out on understanding that it is an ensemble. And if everyone acted the same way, that wouldn't be a show either.

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and she was very depressed. She told me she unfollowed me, which I had no idea because we, well, she didn't just unfollow me. She unfollowed every housewife. Basically, she unfollowed Bravo, she unfollowed anything. She didn't even want to see it for a while. And I'm like, which I can understand her doing that more than she's been like, this is like 12 years. Yes. I'm very, very long time and it almost becomes who you are after 12 years. You don't know, like you were doing other things, right? You're working with other things. You're working with mental health and different things in life.

So I was speaking to her about it and it really took a toll on her for a while and then she just came back around again and decided that she wanted to open herself back up and that she wanted to see what the house was. We're doing and she wanted to be filled in, which I thought was so interesting because I do, I don't even think about this. The day that I get fired or the day that I'm gone, my husband does. Because he'll be the one,

he always says, are you gonna fall apart if that happens? Like, I don't wanna deal with you if you're gonna fall apart. Like, are you fully prepared that if you're not on this show, like in six months, like, are you gonna be like a walking mess?

Are you gonna be crying every day? Are you gonna be depressed? Are you gonna be sad? He always? Are you gonna be crying every day? Are you gonna be depressed? Are you gonna be sad? If he always wants to make sure that there's like, that's not gonna be the end all for me in my like happiness, you know. I think the biggest thing is that you have things out. You have friendships outside of the show.

You have really, yes. And you have a business. You have all those things. But I think, you know, for Tam, especially, it was so many years. I mean, I remember having dinner with her before I even reached out to her to do the podcast with me. And you could just still, we, it was fresh for both of us. It was like at the beginning, like we both just were like,

and our husband's both looked at us and they were like, we need you to stop. We need a new topic. We're not talking about this anymore. And then it was like another year before we, I mean, I refused even on my own podcast to talk about housewives, even after my contract was over. Like I was like, I don't want you. Right.

Like because it makes you feel a certain way, but then once you kind of get over it, now I'm like, well, why not? Why not get paid to talk about something that I, well, it was an experience in life. It's something that's a major thing that you, I mean, housewives, there's a huge, you know, pop culture phenomenon for, I mean, it really is.

So you were a part of that for three years of your life. I mean, it is an experience that you want to talk about. You know, I'm glad that Tamra came on to do it with me. Like I wouldn't have, truthfully, it would not have been the same without Tamra. Like when I heard asked me, they said, you know, we really want you to start talking about housewives again. Will you please? And I was like, only if I can have a co-host. And they gave me all these names. And I was like, no, no, no, no.

I'll do it with Tamra. And they were like, she, I don't know, I'm like, well, what if I reach out to her myself? And they were like, okay. And honestly, like, she just had to say, is it going to be hard for me? She was like, is it going to be hard to watch the shows? I'm like, not if you know you're doing it for a job. Right. I'm like, the only way I can compare it to is, is I don't know. I'm trying to think of something we all promote. A product we all love. Let's say it's bond, I booze, tear, blow, dry, you know, right? We all like it. We all use it, but still filming those ads are annoying. We all like it. We all use it but still filming those ads

are annoying. Of course, by the end of the day, it's the product that we like. You're going to get money at the end of it. Think of it like that. Right. So you looked at it like, no, essentially, I'm giving you

a job offer here as well. I'm getting job offer to watch a television show that you know a lot on. And let's go and let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Right. So do you guys talk about other subjects on your podcast as well or is it all housewives? It's all housewife. I mean, we don't, we don't have the option to like we have our bosses and they're like this is what and they're like listen, there's works girls. Yes, so we have on we talk about all the different franchises. We also bring on guests as you as you know, because you were on and then we will recap what's going on with us, but that's it. Like there's no we're not talking about selling like any other shows like they're not interested.

You've been nobody wants to hear they want to hear you guys with your experience as housewives like. Talk about Dubai, New Jersey. I mean, you I mean, we have we end up filming two to three podcasts a week because there's so many shows to talk about. What have you? I mean, now you guys are really two women. Tamer is so

known for speaking her mind. She always has been. What have you ever spilled any tea on your podcast where you're like, you've gotten yourself into like a little hot water or you're like, you've a little hot water or yo into the MTV Awards and w in front of us. I know th you guys even saw her do didn't speak to her there

when when you came up and we were all next Beverly Hills table was right next to the Jersey, next to me and Teresa. Tamer kinda looked at me and walked over to me and she was like, I don't know if I'm to say hi or not say hi, I don't know what to do. And I didn't know the full thing. I guess you guys did a little recap on the show or her wedding or whatever it might be.

And and a personally I don't know what you said you can film me in if you'd like to. But what happened all I know is to be very looking at me. This was a camera. I have issues with 90% of the others. I know. Okay. Okay. Now essentially what what Tamra said, which wasn't even bad. She just said that Louis reminded her her of one of the X's on the show with all the way he does his like affirmation like the Vicky's Vicky's X. Yeah, yeah. And then seriously since then, she has been obsessing over the fact that Theresa and follow her, like she talks about it in the podcast. She's like, I wasn't even saying anything bad. Like I could see my husband doing these types of things. Like I'm not, you know, whatever.

So when we walked in, I was like, Oh, hell. And Tam, I have different personality types. Like there was one person I was worried about saying there. And who, who, who were you worried about seeing? I was a little bit worried about seeing Bethany. Really? Why have you just said stuff about her? Well, I just said on our podcast that because sometimes Bethany can have a like a little bit of an enlarged head when it comes to what housewives did for her. And like, the way her speech at MTV awards is very different than I've heard her talk so like about housewives.

I agree. I thought she was being extremely appreciative to the platform that Bravo gave her. Right, which is the first I've ever heard that. So I said, I hope her head doesn't get too big because most of us know that that award was supposed to go to Andy and he didn't fly in because. Wait, was it? I did not know this. Yes, and he didn't fly in.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, Andy was supposed to receive that award. Correct. And he didn't fly in because of the baby. And because it's his birthday, the day of the MTV Awards. Right. So I had just said that on the podcast. I did not know this and I don't know that my listeners knew this either.

I did not know this either way. Tam walks right up like where you know where they like groom you right at the beginning and like give you whatever. Yeah, that he's in there and Tam like walks right over and she's like, Hi, and I just like I don't do that. Like if I say something, like unless it's something light, I knew that would be something that she's probably ultimately not going to like. So you already had one out and said she's not supposed to get this award. Correct. And I knew our episode was airing that day. So I did not

like go over and kiss the ring. I just like, way of joy. I was like, I'm not even going to walk over there and try to fake it right now. Yeah. I said the ring. I just like, way of joy. I was like, I'm not even gonna walk over there and try to fake it right now. Because I said what I said. I said to her daughter nicely, like you look beautiful, you're getting so grown up, but that was it. I was not, I can't do that.

I just don't have it in me. Great, I mean, Tamer didn't say it about her. I did, so she's able to do that. But I was, Tam's like, you didn't come over. I was like, of course I didn't. You're like, do you know what I just said about her today? So do you know that she heard it? Do you know that she, I don't know,

I have no idea because I haven't seen it anywhere. And I think she's very smart. So I think she knows that if she doesn't talk about it, most likely it'll go away. It goes away. And you know, that's kind of like the housewise way. If you don't speak about it, it kind of fizzle off. If you make a big thing about it, it's a thing. And also, I don't know that any one of the higher ups is confirming that or Andy Cohen is going to ever confirm that. No, no

and will. And that's fine. And that's allegedly rumor has it. Whatever it is, it doesn't matter. But, you know, I think the difference between Bethany and a lot of the other housewives that we've said things that, you know, ingest about on the podcast is, she takes herself very seriously and she also has very strong opinions about other women. Like I remember when I was on house,

what she would say things about me and I would just have to be like, it's fine, you know, that's an OG. It is. It is. You just listen to what Bethany says and that's what, well, she does. She gives her, she honestly gives her opinion,

I would say on all of the shows and what she feels about everything, even Kim Kardashian. I mean, she's, she's not shy and I think that's why she's become who she is and why she's done talk shows and why she's tried so many different outlets, so to speak. I know there was a time when her and my sister-in-law actually, like she would say, things about my sister-in-law as well, and then somehow they ended up mending the fences. I don't know how, but I mean, I don't have a problem with her. I was just simply saying like let's

let's keep the head and check. This is the rumor. It is what it is, but between that and then Tam, but Tam, I mean, defenses with like Teresa, I think they're. Well, she, because Teresa is good that way. Like so she just walked right up to Tariq, because Tamra came to me first, because her and I are, I like Tamra. We're friends, we've known each other forever. And we did a fiber one commercial together. We've done plenty of, we've worked together.

She came up to me like held my hand and she was like, is your sister in law going to go nuts? I mean, like basically like, Melissa, you got my back here. Like, what's going to happen? You're going to block us. And I'm like, wait, I was confused. I was like, what am I missing? I don't even know what I was missing. And then I found out later that I guess she had said that thing that, you know, Louie's like a love bomber or whatever. And he has very extra on TV with the loving and all of that. So, you know, but Teresa was nice. So if you go up to her in that manner,

she's usually just like, let's it go. And I think that's it. Yeah, I think that's what I'm already stepped in a way worse than Tammy. Oh my God. She was. Could you believe that? Do you know what first?

I was like, wait, was this really an accident? Or is there a Mona feeling like I need a little attention over here because of like the show? But I think she truly did that on accident. She really did because she's posted her bank account before. She's done, but it really could be either way. I can't, I honestly can't even speculate because I haven't met her that many times. Like even a Andy's baby shower, she called me a different name of a different house life every single time that I saw her. You know she's known for that, right? She's known to not know who you are, where you came from, which show are you on, which girl are you again? Like that is Ramona. You would think you would stay consistent throughout the night. Like just pick whatever

housewife you've assumed I am and just go with it for the night. But no, it would be like flipping from one to the next to the next. And I was like, she even did a live. And she was like, I'm here with Gina from, no, she did not, like this is Ramona. And this is why she is TV gold most of the time as well. But yeah, this is Ramona for you. most of the time as well. But yeah, this is Ramona for you. I'm asking you this. I don't want to get into any trouble, but is there one housewife who you will never, like who you're never going to invite onto your podcast? Like is there anyone that you're like, I have no desire to speak to them. They'll never be invited. And you know, you have no desire.

I think I would probably have to say, it's hard. I feel like I would probably have to be Camille, grammar. Okay. Soley, because she never had the backbone to say the things to your face and then she would always say them behind your back and then it was,

like then she would play this new card and when she was with me, like I would have no idea things were happening and her final season or, but I guess, I don't know if that was my, maybe I had another season after this, I don't even know. I think it was her final season. As a friend of, she was a housewife

than a friend of, she said something that I had done to her daughter, which was completely fabricated. And then the second that we were done filming, she's like sending me text messages. I know that didn't happen that way. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, listen, we're being filmed

to walk through the airport. And I'm with every single housewife're being filmed walk to the airport and I'm with every single housewife. And I waived to your daughter in the food court and I say hi and you are pulling me aside on camera and acting like I blew her off. When you know I'm with the entire cast, the entire crew, we're all being filmed.

And I waived and did the same exact thing as the other women. I know what you're trying to do and then decide text into the apology. That I don't like. If you want to be an asshole to me, be consistent. Right. I'm down with you with that. Like I can't do the fake. That's where I get. I don't fake it and I don't, if we're going to be one way through text or if we're going to be one way in person on camera off cap and we have to keep it consistent. We have. We have.

Yes. And I feel like that's where you get along well with Kyle because I feel like she's the same in that. She's annoyed. You're going to know she's annoyed. And then I said this to someone else. Someone else asked me about it. And I think I, not this exact question, but I just said, Camille, and then Camille years later.

I mean, this was like probably in 2020, since me at DM saying, just so you know, everything I ever said was because of Chris Cullen, the producer, and I'm like, you know how many times anybody can say that, like, please, please. I had a girlfriend, I had a girlfriend come on my show, film with Teresa, she was a girlfriend of mine that I filmed with her three days before of mine that I filmed with her three days

before. Okay, I filmed with her three days before. So it wasn't like I wasn't filming with her. I was trying to hide her anything. I filmed with her, come to find out she wanted to be a housewife. So what does

she do? She was a bridesmaid in my wedding. She went and sat down with my sister and law. And this is the very beginning when we were not getting along on the show at all. She sat and did a whole scene with her, like saying the most horrific things about me not getting along on the show at all. She sat and did a whole scene with her,

like saying the most horrific things about me, like basically calling me, every name in the book, calling me a cheater, saying I did like horrible things, everything completely on true. And then text me when it aired and said, oh, I just did that because they told me to, like I didn't mean to do that.

I was like, don't eat, like I was disgusted. I was completely disgusted and I know no producers told her to do that. They do not, they do not listen. Do we get to invited to all to the same party? Yes. Do they tell us what to say when we get there? No. They have, we have our subjects, right? That we need to talk about, but you're not told to go say that your best friend did something like crazy the way that with this one. I won't even repeat what she said, because it's like it was so gross. Yeah. And I'm like, that's how I feel. How low will you go to get a spot on national TV? Because that's the real question. You know, it's like, how low will you go? And the fact that I filmed with you, she's in a scene with me, maybe three episodes before that, just going to lunch as my girlfriend.

Yeah. So she must have really liked that lunch scene that she was like, oh, I need to get in on this. Next, I'm going to go to lunch with Teresa, and I'm going to lie about Melissa. This was a bridesmaid in my wedding. So it's, it's, I never liked the producer made me excuse. I think we all have our own, you know, our own, it's a cop out. It's a cop out. And ultimately, yes, if you, if your producers know you have a problem with somebody, they, I have had them say,

are you gonna talk to them directly or just one of the other women? Like, but just asking like as a friend. That's exactly what they do. They're like, well, are you gonna address this? And most of the time, if they're saying, are you going to address this? It's because they don't want you to address it off camera, right? So they're basically saying, like, if you're going to address this, do us the favor and make sure the cameras are there, which is pretty normal.

Because they kind of like are therapists anyway, you're always talking to like, you can't help you. Like I'm so pissed about blah blah blah, you know, and then yes, 100%. But you're normally forcing you to do anything ever. I can't ever say in all of my bad decisions. I can't blame about blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah rapid fire questions, just give me your quick answers. And it's gonna be fun. Are you ready? Okay, I'm ready. Your first celebrity crush. Oh my gosh, my first celebrity crush. Oh, Andrew Keegan.

Who is that? Why do you mean, if you guys get to see her face, she's making right now. Are you embarrassed of that answer? I'm like, I'm like, Jonathan Taylor Thomas. She's making right now. Are you embarrassed of that answer? We're like Jonathan Taylor Thomas like you put them like they weren't team-bop and you like took them out and like posted them on your wall. Oh my god. I don't have to google Andrew Keith. 90s heart throbs. 90s heart throbs. Your favorite 80s song. your favorite 80s song.

I mean, I love Madonna. I love Cindy Lauper. I love any I love any song you can dance and have fun too, which is all 80s music basically. Pretty nice. What is your biggest regret? My biggest regret was not was being so hard on myself like until I got into my 30s, like beyond hard on myself, like until I got into my 30s, like beyond hard on myself from like 18 to 30,

just I wish I could have just taken a breath and been like, you're all right, you don't have to be perfect. Fair. Best decision you've ever made. To have my kids. Like to have my kids to meet my stepdaughter, like, you know, I never knew I wanted kids, and then when I met my husband,

and then I met Isabella, like I fell in love with her. And so to go through that journey, no matter how hard I was. What is your pet peeve? Well, one is being late. I really don't like when people are late. It makes me bananas, like just that.

I also, I don't like talking on the phone. Who does? I don't, like when, there's really no reason for it. You can also push that little button and send a text message with your own voice. I mean, there's really no reason for conversation anymore.

It's one thing here in the car and you're driving and you wanna have a conversation, but like my dad, for example, example will text me call me real quick Or like hey, I just called you. I'm like you're giving me anxiety. What what I know Someone just text and says call me. It's like is there a problem like you think yeah, you have a second No, now I have need to call you this second. What crazy? Worst date you've ever had. Worst date. I have. Okay, so this was like with like a B-slebb type guy back when I, that was my thing when I first moved to LA, like I had

crushes on all these guys and we'd all go to this club, Joseph's. So this was a repeat offender. I don't even know if you call it date, so we'd all go to clubs together. And afterwards we ended up at like some other, you know, in the know type guys house and a girl who who is now famous and beautiful by the way come on in and this guy looks at me and he's like I'm out and last for her. Shut up, you have to tell me who the girl is. We're not we're not saying anything negative about her. Okay. The girl is Jenna Dewan. I'm not going to say. Oh my God.

She said I love. I love you. She must have started to dance. That's what happened. She started to honestly. She walked in for 10 seconds and he honestly like gave me this look like. Like he's out. That was the end of that one.

She finally invited us both there. And then when she showed up, he was like that. He was like, that's my route. Oh my god. Well, at least she was like a beauty and a cutie. I mean, amazing. I mean, we're talking like late 90s guys. This is a long time ago that no one was married.

We're all good. Oh, right. OK. So being the daughter of John Mellingcamp, I mean, what was your first concert? I'm assuming it was probably his, like he, he always did farmaid ever since, you know, the early 80s, which is that he always had done it with like a bunch of different people. So it'd be like Dave Matthews, my dad, I'm going miss people and then I'm gonna fin them, but we would go to Farmaid every single year and like sit on the speakers and think we were super cool. Okay, tell us something about you that would surprise us.

Something about you that, something about me that would surprise us. What do we not know about you? I know we know so much. I feel like I'm such an open book. I think the biggest, I guess the most surprising thing is on the show, if you watch me on the show, it seems like I take everything really seriously.

But I couldn't enjoy laughing and having fun more. That is me to my core. I've had the same friends since the third grade. I really am a loyal fun person. And I wish we got to see that a little bit more. But I was such, I was so controlling in that setting that, you know, it is what it is. What is your favorite late night snack when you're watching your shows at night? What are you eating? Popcorn. Always, always a popcorn thing. Well, it depends. Is there drinking involved or no drinking? No, you're just watching TV.

Like just home living my best life. Yes, yes. I, yeah, it's always like skinny pop. I love skinny pop and I like hot water with lemon. And I just, you know, does the thing. What was your first job? My first job was I worked at a pizza restaurant, like many pizzas and checking people out. Oh my god, I love it. I did too. By the way, I worked on the boardwalk. My first job was serving pizza. So there we go.

What is your favorite show to binge watch right now? Like what are you watching if you're watching anything. So this isn't necessarily a show, but I was so hooked on the Johnny Depp and Breher trial. Like I am a crime or law junkie. Like I need to investigate and I, so anything like that. So now it's like the staircase or mom talk. Like I go down these deep dark rabbit holes, like I can't help myself.

Got it. Okay. So I always end with this question, which is if it's all about you today, how does Teddy treat herself? What do you do to treat yourself if it's all about you? If it's all about me, I would say I just would want to be lazy bones. Like I would honestly, like if I could have a day to myself, like in a hotel watching shows, like taking baths, maybe getting a massage, like going on a little hike. Like that. She's chilling, you wanna chill.

Chill, that's one, all about me. Also, I love to do a fun activity or vacation with my kids in my head. Love it. Listen, Teddy, thank you so much for doing this and taking the time to do this today. You're so much fun, you're so real. I've liked you, you and I also, I'll say

this. We've liked each other from day one, from the beginning. I've always liked you. You're one of the realists. I truly feel that. I love listening to your podcast also. So everyone out there definitely check out two

teas in a pod with Tamra Judge there. So much fun on it. And if you love housewives, then you definitely want to listen to what they have to say. Thank you. And I love that I didn't wear the matching dress so that we didn't look like you. Well, I love it too, because then it would have said who wore it better and then more

more costumes. Oh my god. I would have been. Forget it. I almost I guess for air when I saw you on that carpet. I was like, Oh, and that is not like, that's a very stand out dress. That would have been a bright colors on the, on the carpet. I was like, Oh, and that is not like that's a very stand out dress. That would have been bright colors on the carpet.

I will say it was all color. Well, you know what? It's summer and it's MTV. That's what came to mind. We stand by our decisions. Exactly. So, OK, thank you so much. So good talking to you. Bye. Bye. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Yeah!