On Display with Melissa Gorga - Gorga Knows Best
Episode Date: January 5, 2023Happy New Years everyone! Melissa looks back at 2022 and reminisces on some of her favorite interviews of the last year. Do most husbands have a secret soft side like Frank Catania? Did Dorinda ...regret hosting season 2 of UGT at Bluestone Manor? Would Jillian Michaels approve of your morning coffee routine? And what happens when you have to take your pants off, mid-interview? We get this and a whole lot more as Melissa looks back on some of the most memorable moments from the last year.
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Happy New Year to all my listeners. I love you guys so so much.
And I want to wish you all a very happy and healthy 2023.
I want to say to everyone that this is your year.
So go out there and get it.
I truly believe in like new year, new beginnings.
I am not one to make a new year's resolution.
I never was and I feel like just being in the public eye, everyone has always asked me
on carpets like, what is your new year's resolution?
And I never have one because I believe in consistency, I believe in goals.
I don't just pick one thing that's really hard
for me to like zero in on.
Overall, I like to try to keep whatever makes me happy,
I wanna search for more of and I wanna do more of.
So that's really my goal for 2023,
is to figure out what really makes me smile,
what really makes me happy,
and keep leaning into that direction.
I spent years even a rubah with my family and my cousins.
I had the absolute best time.
My kids love it.
It's the only time I see everybody, honestly,
like put down their cell phones,
really spend time together.
I take the extensions out of my hair.
I swim in the saltwater.
I really just needed that week off. It's literally one of the best things for me
So I hope you guys all had a wonderful New Year's Eve 2 and I love you all so much. Let's get 2023
Okay, let's get it. Let's feel good about it
And that's it with that said. I hope everyone is recovering well from their New Year's Eve.
And I am very excited to bring you a very, very special episode
with some of my best interviews looking back on 2022.
Here we go.
You know her as the brave house host
of the second season of the Ultimate Girls trip.
And she is such a blast to catch up with.
I just love Durinda.
Durinda and I chatted about our experiences in reality TV
and what we've learned from it.
What advice we would share with other people
that are in similar positions,
how grateful we are to have this platform
and also have these fans that are so supportive.
If you're looking for a clip where two girls are just
being real about their experiences on reality TV, this is it guys.
And because she's so proper, I feel like I should give a proper introduction with this
clip.
So ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Miss Durinda Medley.
You were one of the ladies that came in and just owned it from like day one.
It wasn't like you were a newbie ever.
You were never a newbie. I'll be just remember I knew all those girls for so long.
And I've been, you know, on in the background.
And we've known each, it's kind of like,
that's why Jersey works because we really knew each other.
So a lot, there's been so many times
when I've been off camera with the girls.
I'm thinking, God, this would just make a great scene
because I think it's so important as with your show.
And I think that's why it does so
well is that it's authentic you know you can see these girls living like that and you can see them
if you're changing it's not all about the hair and makeup it's about life right you know and I
would say when you're a good reality star you know you have to be ready for the good the bad the
happy the sad and my people cycles through it and see that you're human.
I do love for a lot of these women that get on the show now.
They so worry about their image and worry about what a people are going to think.
Who gives a shit?
Let people cycle through it.
Let people love you.
Let people hate you.
And that's how we learn from women like us because we are not.
We're perfectly imperfect.
Amen, sister.
You couldn't have said it better.
And that's the truth. And you know what, you that is the advice I would love to give to any like
newbies starting off on our show or just on all these franchises in general because what you
just said really like pins it. It's like they're going to love you. They're going to hate you.
They're going to remember whatever you did last not what what you did good like four months ago.
And it is what it is and just
Someone said to me what do you think about when the grim people and
So and so someone said something bad about you. I'm like listen. I didn't know the girl before
I'm not gonna know we're asking this is not a popularity contest for me
This is sort of an opportunity for you to see me as a multi
You know multi-functional, multi-level
woman that has all sides. Because that's what we are. And to tell the truth, I
always say this, I will say it again, I think the women that go on housewives
and do it authentically are very brave. Because it is much harder to show all
sides of you than it is to show one side of you. The one side of you is easy, right?
And that's, but unfortunately, if you look in history of women
and stuff, the women in the 60s, 50s, 60s,
I only showed one side of themselves,
ended up with major depression, didn't have careers,
you know, ended up being very unhappy,
and a lot of times in marriages that didn't work
in situations that didn't work for them.
We are women. We have many different layers and a successful woman.
And a woman that needs to stand forward and a woman that needs to speak or place in peace
is really the woman you want to know. And that's a woman that sometimes can be a little difficult.
And you know, maybe you don't understand her 100 percent, but that's okay too.
100 percent. And I feel like when they come on and just try to show you that good side,
everyone sees right through it,
when you're fake, when you're not being you,
when you're not authentic,
everyone sees right through it.
And I will say you are definitely one of the real ones
when it comes to real life,
showing your real life,
what you have shown on the show,
what we know about you.
You know, with a lot of these women, we don't really know what their relationships were, right? We don't know
what their marriages are. We still don't know what they are. And we've known half of them
for eight to ten years. And it's still a fake thing. And I think people can, people can
really wean out who's real on this show and who is not, you know.
Well, the same. You have to, you have to talk about, too, the fact that it's a real incredible gift and
burden when you put on these shows because you have to keep balancing. Obviously, we are naturally
all protective just as humans, but also to we have children and we have family. But you want to
just be able to have people learn from you and expose yourself just enough. I hate when people say,
well, when people
are faltered or people are
going through terrible times
when they don't show everything.
Well, you know, it's not our
job to show absolutely everything,
but it's our job to teach people
about going through different
situations.
Right. That's 100% facts.
And you would think that's why
reality stars, you know, we
can be in a room sometimes.
And I know you've experienced
this when, you know, the people be in a room sometimes and I know you've experienced this.
When, you know, the people, there could be major celebs and I know you roll with some big people too.
You go to great events, you're, you're, you're all over New York City and you get invited to beautiful events.
You really do, right?
And, and I do as well, there could be a list and I'm talking a list.
I know where you're going with this.
Go ahead.
They want to know, they want to say hello to us because they know us personally.
They want to know more children personally.
I was having a conversation about that.
What is that?
I was really thinking about it the other day.
And I got to tell you what's interesting.
There was, there sort of was like the soap opera stars,
which became very big in our parents and grandparents.
Like we thought we knew about this.
Like we thought we loved when people got married.
We were hard work when people died.
We attended the funerals on the venue,
but then you got these people called movie stars.
We played a role.
And they were able to leave the role.
And you didn't really feel like you knew the person.
You just knew the world they were playing.
The thing about when people see us,
they have in their minds, they see in our children,
our homes, our bedrooms, our kitchen.
The way we eat, the way we cry, the way we scream,
we cycle through.
So all of a sudden, there's no proscenium wall
and they really have access to us, which I find,
and I don't know about you,
but I felt that at the MTV Awards
and we walked down that red carpet.
And we forget, because remember folks we only film
for a month's year and then we really do go back into our old lights right. We do.
So when I got to the MTV Awards and I don't know if you felt this way but when to see people
just so happy to see you and like really like oh my god you made it nice and how's Anna doing
you're like it's really such a gift. That is the gift.
It really is. I just got the chills with you saying that because it's the truth and I am grateful.
And I know you are too. It's something that we're grateful for because we truly were wives and
moms and housewives and just, you know, people just business women trying to make it out there.
And this really is a gift and it's such a platform.
And I think that people like you and I are very smart. We know how to use it and we appreciate it,
right? Absolutely. And I just, you know, you have to understand there's a beginning in the middle
to an end event. And while you're doing it, if I give anybody advice that's involved in a situation
that you get involved in like this is just to make sure you keep growing yourself uh you know within it and outside of it.
This guy was one of my favorites.
You've probably saw him all over your television.
This holiday season with his very own Christmas special.
Do you know it's Christmas, which is an absolute hit?
Well, not only is Mr. Matt Rogers a jack of all trades when it comes to singing,
dancing, and acting.
He's also a huge housewives fan.
Matt gave us some great insight as to why the housewives shows are such a hit with the
gay communities.
And he did his very own exclusive.
I don't think so, honey.
Segment for on display.
It is completely hilarious.
Check it out.
And fire Island, it was a huge phenomenon,
obviously, in the gay community.
It's funny, because I feel like so is housewives, right?
Like, why is that?
Why is that bravo?
It's like such so huge in the gay community.
Will you tell me why?
Honestly, I think it's because like we just love,
like I know what I've gravitated towards
since I was younger is just the strong women in my life.
Like honestly, because I think that,
like as queer people, we really want to find a way
to express ourselves, but there's really
when I was growing up anyway,
there was no one to look up to in my life.
That was like gay, like confident strong, you know,
but also had the same interest as me.
Like I didn't see that behavior modeled.
And so like in terms of what my interests are,
it's really just watching people against all odds,
like make stuff happen for themselves.
And I also think especially with housewives,
when you're growing up and you're not really comfortable
with yourself, not
comfortable voicing your opinion, I'm personally inspired by people who really
say what they think and they're willing to get into conflict about it because
actually, and this has been true pretty much my entire life, conflict actually
like breeds resolution, which actually makes everyone better most of the time.
I'm not gonna say that that the gaze don't love
mess and that's not why they love housewives. Clearly that's true too. But what I like about it is
when I watch a season of housewives and I've like absorbed it, I actually think I get better
at knowing how to express myself because of either watching a housewife where I'm like, well,
I would never say it like that, which happens with some of the people on your cast.
And then other people where I'm like,
I see myself in that, you know what I mean?
I understand this.
And so it's almost just like watching
like a social chess game in a way,
with also like, you know, cool locations and fashions
and mess.
So it's just-
Well, I love that.
You're basically saying you love women
who speak their minds and are not and approach,
and also approach fixing things at the same time, right?
Yeah. And like I said, I'm from Long Island.
So watching Jersey was like a real one-to-one from the same by the way, Long Island and New Jersey,
I will say it really is so similar.
Very, very similar.
I won't think York and New Jersey, but Long Island and New Jersey.
So similar. Like anytime I do anything out on Long Island and New Jersey. Absolutely. So similar.
Like anytime I do anything out on Long Island, they are like, they come out.
I mean, they are the best.
One of my favorite things that you do on your podcast is called, I don't think so honey,
right?
Yeah.
And basically, it's where you were bowing, you just rant about something for 60 Seconds
Straight.
Yep. We do a 60 second rant on something in pop culture that's just like we need to rip
all the way apart. Like I was like, it's something, sometimes you have like, you've just had
it with something and so you get 60 seconds on the clock and you say, I don't think so honey,
this thing and you drag it. Okay, I want to play with you right now. Okay. I get to ask you,
you're going to answer for 60 seconds.
I'm going to put the clock on.
Perfect.
And then I have the clock too, if you want to do one.
I want you.
I want to hear me.
Let's go.
I don't think it's funny.
I don't know if I can do that.
Really?
Well, listen to me first.
And then let's see if it.
Let's see if it feels like I give you some courage.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
So do I have to say I don't. So you have to you have to say, so what you say to me is Matt Rogers,
you're, I don't think so honey time starts now and then hit the button and I'm going to go.
Okay, ready? Yeah.
Matt Rogers.
I kissed the back.
You're like, Bowen, you're, it's amazing. Hold on.
Am I talking about when you're going?
Or what?
Am I doing this right?
Okay, I'm killing it.
Matt Rogers, I don't think so honey, give me all the drama on the real housewives
of Beverly Hills. Go.
I don't think so, honey, Diana.
Flop, this was not the first season
that we needed from you.
And you came in promising all of that.
You came in so hot and you were like,
yeah, I know Elton John,
I actually on the board of that party
and then I was gonna expect something from you.
I don't think so, honey,
because all I got from you was like,
Asher's EP.
15 seconds.
If I have to see Asher sing one more song,
scrilting at the top of his lungs,
I don't think so, honey.
What is going on, Diana?
Seriously, also not for nothing,
but it's giving Mafia energy.
That's what I'll say about that.
Oh, Diana, I don't think so, honey.
It's easy to for you because while you did do a couple
iconic things such as so you say, I did love that dinner, that lunch that you have
a sudden where you were like, so you say, but I don't, I don't think so.
25 seconds.
Diana because ultimately it's giving sort of a dark evil energy.
And when you said that suddenly actually is a CUNT, I was done at that point.
You're aligning with Rina and Eric and mama.
This is the darkness.
I don't think so, honey Diana.
Sorry about it.
Bring back Kim Richards.
Oh, time.
Wow.
Oh, me, shit.
That was, I could, first of all, I cannot do that.
That was amazing.
That was so good and spicy and shady. I love it. You got to give what the girls came for.
And I've been doing too many. I don't think so. Now I think I've done almost 300 over 350 of them
in the years we've done the podcast. So if I'm any good at it, it's just because practice.
That was a made that was like, redic. I was like, oh my god, I don't want to interrupt them to
tell them how many seconds he has left because I don't want to ruin his train of thought
Am I supposed to do that? So yes, you did it perfectly what I do is I do 30 seconds and then 15 seconds left
And then I say five and then it's over but you were you intuitive it perfectly
Well, you know, I'm a newbie here. I'm just trying it out, you know, no you killed it you crashed
I will say I didn't even mention the bots
I didn't even mention like the garcelle of it all, which is really where she gets
tough for me because you notice she always picks on Garcelle in a way where it's like
girl, why?
Unless it's something dark.
Okay, guys, the Apple Martini King himself, Mr. Frank,
a Tania joined me for such a fun interview.
And Joe even pops in a little bit
for the grilled with Gorgas segment that you do not want to miss. Guys, he opens up about his regrets
and how he treated Dolores during their marriage, his hard realization about stepping up to be a
parent, and he showed us his surprisingly sensitive side, especially when it comes to pets. You're
going to love these clips right here. You also come say say hi, we're gonna pull Joe in for a minute.
How you doing my wife?
Oh, you're nervous. Why does he have no shirt on?
He's just took a shower and he's like walking around like this.
I'm not in the office today. I'm out of home.
You know, anybody else reals the prize, but that doesn't surprise me at all.
All right. You believe this guy's just walking around with no shirt on.
I got to show you the real gun.
I'm used to it. I'm used to it.
You know, he probably listen.
Yeah, I walk by.
I walk by and I was hearing if Brittany ever wanted a kid and you ever need
to help your buddy.
I'll help you.
I'll give you some.
You got to say that that would be my, that would be your child then.
They're not helping now.
It's friends. I've noticed guy 30 something years. I hope you have fun. Joe, I would be your child then. They're not helping out.
It's friends.
I've noticed guy 30 something years.
I hope you have fun.
Joe, I got to tell you two things.
All right.
I don't want to be the guy who takes away
one of your three sperms, OK?
There's only three.
One more is coming in.
And you know what they call them.
All right, listen, all right.
I want my child to be able to have a big basketball.
All right. All right. No. But listen, I don't want you to lose
your 25 year old girl. And I help you out. I don't want to call me
out. We'll have pregnant.
Leaveable. Well, I got the two best house husbands in the room
right now. I'm so excited on this.
With me, this is pretty exciting. And I will vouch to say that
the two of you together are hysterical and you like feed off each other
great. You guys just have like
a real honest, you have like
a true friendship, which is
a lot different from just
meeting someone from this show.
You guys have a real honest
friendship. And I say all the
time, guys, you see, there is
nothing scripted about us.
There is nothing scripted.
All right, believe me, Joe
Gorgia thinks of these fucking
stupid things on his own. All right, without nothing scripted. All right, believe me, don't work at things like these fucking stupid things on his own, all right, without production whatsoever.
All right, all the time. Absolutely.
But you know, it's great about us and I'm going to just end it on this note that we are
just the same people. We don't care. We don't offend each other. You have a big heart of
gold. I do where you're genuine. All the business we have done over the years,
we've never had an argument ever, right?
I mean, we've respected one another.
So we are the same type of person.
You know, a lot of people say,
you can't go into business where friends are family bullshit.
Yes, you can.
As long as you do the right thing, you can.
Correct. You can always do, you know,
jealousy. You got to be careful, jealousy.
That jealousy. I love to surround my people by self
of people who are happy, who are good
because that makes you happy, right?
That's exactly right.
So it is what it is.
Oh my God, it is a little awkward now.
I'm feeling a little sorry, Joe.
All right.
Yeah.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about that.
He needs an apple.
Let's talk about that football game, all right?
He needs that.
Hey, we got to just say you guys do. Yeah, first game football game. All right. All right. Hey, we got to just say you guys do.
Coming up.
Yeah, first game is Sunday.
All right.
Saturday.
Yeah.
I'll be there.
You guys going?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Can I be there?
We already all of the short vacation.
Everything screwed down the shore.
Once you have a child that plays football in high school,
everything's everything's over.
Yes, for sure.
We might as well just go out here.
I want to hear about this. Listen, Ryan. Come on. I'm here about this.
Listen, Ryan.
Come on.
Okay.
You ready?
I don't know.
Okay.
Grilled with Gorgah.
Here we go.
Who was this is just to learn a little bit more about you, Frank, as if we don't know
enough.
All right.
Who was your first celebrity crush?
Oh, I know, I know.
I know.
Who's the guy that let him answer?
First celebrity. Oh, I know, I know, I know. Who's the guy? Let him answer. First, let me go.
Ron Jeremy. Ron.
The porn star guy. Right, man?
Victoria principal. Victoria principal.
Who?
Victoria principal.
Okay. Oh my God. You don't even know who that is, Joe.
I have no idea.
I know. That's because William and Joe, she's like, this is where Brittany would not know
what the hell you were talking about.
Not at all.
I think she would go from dynasty or something like that.
Wasn't she here or something?
Dynasty.
Right?
Dallas, Dallas.
She was on Dallas.
Yes, there you go.
My God, you're right, Dallas.
Oh my God, so funny.
Okay, your favorite 80s song.
I love ACDC, Hills Bills.
Really?
You're like a rocker? Yeah, I'm a rocker, but I'm also freestyle. I love country. I love everythingDC, Hillsbills. Really? You're like a rocker?
Yeah, I'm a rocker, but I'm also freestyle.
I love country.
I love everything, guys.
I really do.
Depending on you.
Can you sing anything for me right now?
Let's see.
You want to keep your followers.
You don't want to, you know?
Let me be.
OK.
Can you free Frank singing as a sound bite?
Desperate.
Yeah, exactly.
You know?
What's your biggest regret in life?
Honestly, like your biggest regret that you think about sometimes.
Number one, I had millions that I spent the whole, okay?
All right. I'm a financial end, but my biggest regret in life is my situation
with the Lord. So what I, how I heard the Lord's, okay?
I would hate everything to do that again, but it's hard
to continue to regret it when look what happened, all right,
we're great friends and I got two beautiful kids, right?
Well said, well, how about this, how about this, what was your
best decision you made in life?
Being become a friends with me, right?
Close, close, yep, between that and get Rook now, I don't know which one's what which one's more me, right? Close, close.
Yeah, between that and get root canal.
I don't know which one's more, which one's more important.
Right?
Right?
Geez.
What, come on, best decision.
Oh, best decision in life?
Oh my God, best decision in life.
I'm a healthy out, bro.
No, he doesn't eat your help.
Quite honestly, there was a point in time where I was just
a little reckless and abandoned.
Where I said, you're only going to have this opportunity once
and I tried to be a good father.
All right.
That's where I went from living a life of a wild man,
which I need if my kids didn't come along,
I'd probably be dead by now.
All right.
Where, but honestly, it's more important
to be a father than enjoy yourself.
Oh, well, that is definitely that's a good man right there. That is the best decision you've
ever made then. Absolutely. To be a dad, to be a father. To act like one.
All right. It's easy to be one to act like one. Right. Oh my God. In fact, that probably is
resonating with a lot of men right now that are like awesome.
And I thank the Lord. I thank the Lord because it didn't have to be this way.
And the Lord is despite, you know, our
divorce, we were always a
family. We were never not a
family, you know? And as the
lores will say many times,
she divorced me in order to
keep our family together.
This one is so great. I feel
like oftentimes the reality
lens can pain us in a way
that we completely didn't
expect.
And this girl has definitely dealt with that.
Ms. Dollar Worth Adimes herself, Kenya Moore.
Kenya opens up so much about why she comes across as a villain on the real housewives of Atlanta
versus who she really is in the ultimate girls trip with me.
And how the ultimate girls trip is a lot like Miss Universe and also how she surrounds
herself with beautiful women but she is never intimidated by them.
Talking about like the ultimate girls trip it's kind of crazy because I feel like you
get pinned on the real housewives of Atlanta as kind of like the villain a lot of times but like
and I know a villain when I see one.
I do.
I know an asshole when I see one.
I know it shit stuff.
But to me, like, listen, you didn't let Ramona say,
boo, like, if she, if you didn't,
but you were pretty reasonable about anything you got annoyed at.
I don't get why, why do you come off different on Atlanta
than you do, like, to me in person and on that girls trip?
Well, I just think you know from the moment like I step foot on
Real Housewives of Atlanta season five. I think
I didn't know it to expect and I remember getting into it with like a fan favorite who's no longer on the show
and that relationship once that relationship turned I was just like for me I was just constantly
defending myself like I was defending myself I was having fun and when I was drinking then it was
like oh you're flirting with someone's husband like you know we got in the pool and it was like, oh, you're flirting with someone's husband. Like, you know, we got in a pool and it was like, we jumped in.
But I mean, like everyone was there.
I wasn't trying to flirt with anyone.
But it just, it just kept being edited.
Like I was going after this one and that one.
And so of course you'll get the villain edit if you're, if you're newcomer.
It's easy for them, you know?
And for me, I, and you're gorgeous and just walking around all, like twirling and fabulous with these eyes
and like you just came out of a supermodel magazine shoot.
Thank you.
I, you know what? I just feel like it was the company.
Like, I think with you girls, it's almost like when I was in Miss USA versus Miss Universe.
When I was in Miss USA, everyone was like from Michigan
and Ohio and you know, Texas, everyone wanted to be
Miss USA.
But in Miss Universe, we were already, I was already
Miss USA, someone else was Miss India,
someone else was Miss Jamaica, someone else was Miss Jamaica,
someone else was Miss Switzerland.
We were already winners.
We were already at the top of our game.
And that is kind of like what the ultimate girl trip was.
We were all Miss USA's.
But you see the analogy?
Yes, I'd ever looked at it that way,
but that's like clever.
Yeah, and's different between
Miss Universe and Miss USA. Like once I got to Miss Universe, it was just cool. Like everybody was so,
it was drastically different Melissa. When I got to Miss Universe, it was the coolest girls club ever.
We were all queens. We were like, you know, we were part, we were all a part of history.
They were all just girl beyond stunning.
Like every, every one that would come through
to draw 83 girls from all over the world.
And every last one of them had a crown
and every last one of them were drop dead gorgeous.
And I can vouch and say that you are not the type of girl
that is intimidated by other pretty
or hot women.
Like you root for them.
I mean, come on.
My best friends are like Tyra Banks, Tracy Edmonds, who was, you know, used to be married
to baby face.
I mean, gorgeous, like gorgeous.
She's beautiful.
Accomplished.
I mean, come on.
Even March Phil, Cynthia Bailey, like, girl, I love a gorgeous girl.
Like, so I'm never intimidated by beauty.
I celebrate beauty and all kinds of beauty.
So a beautiful woman doesn't intimidate me.
Never have.
Like, I love pretty, I mean, I keep a dollar worth of dimes around me.
I know you do.
I feel that about you.
When you walk in a room, you're there to compliment. You're there to say you look good. Like, I knew that about you as soon as I met you do. I feel that about you. When you walk in a room, you're there to compliment. You're there to say you look good.
I knew that about you as soon as I met you and as soon as we spent time together on the girls trip, you're not a hater. You're not. You're simply not a hater.
What beauty beauty. We're all different. You know what I mean? We're all different.
I can find beauty in anyone. Like it, whether it's their beautiful widespread eyes
or cheekbones or lips or legs or whatever.
I mean, I just think the female form is just so amazing.
And of course, if you couple that with someone like you,
there's beautiful inside, as well as out,
like it's just a winning combination.
You know, so I'm a girls girl.
I like to support other beautiful women.
So no, it's never, girl, when people say I'm a girls girl. I like to support other beautiful women. So no, it's never
Girl when people say I'm jealous of some I'm like girl, do you know who I'm friends with?
Like right way, you know what I'm saying you the top the most beautiful women
You know what I mean? So don't please don't tell me I'm jealous of someone else's beauty because I love a beautiful girl
Okay, guys one of the biggest things I get asked about all the time is health,
wellness, and of course, my exercise. As a mom of three, it gets more and more challenging
all the time to keep my body in shape than it ever has before. So I had Gillian Michaels
on the show to give me a tip or two on like daily routines, how to tweak them and trust me.
You're going to hear something towards the end of this episode that will change your entire morning routine.
Don't be jealous, everyone. I have Julian Michaels just telling me what to do out there in the gym, which I'm so excited about this.
Okay, so let me tell you what I do. Okay, and, I'm ready. And tell me if I'm right or wrong.
So I'm not, I'm not a really, I'm not a really heavy eater,
but I do eat like so I eat on the weekends.
So let me give you for instance, like Monday, Tuesday,
Monday through Thursday, okay.
Monday through Thursday for me,
a couple coffee in the morning,
that's just how I start my whole entire life.
Do you put anything in it?
It's not a curiosity.
Yeah, so this is where I, I'm the creamer, the French vanilla creamer that they say kills you,
that's me.
I put it in my coffee.
Oh.
Okay, so the first thing I want you to do is switch that out and this is going to sound
kind of surprising.
But you can use something like organic, heavy whipping cream.
And the reason people are going to, it sounds totally counterintuitive because it is high in college
Jolanda he was like a table spoon of it and the reason is because it'll give it that really nice creamy texture and creamy flavor
but
It has no protein and it has no carbohydrates
So what it's allowing you to do is something called a dirty fast
So I'm sure I'm sure you're going to ask me about intermittent
fasting or sure to come up. If you have that crappy creamer, you're blowing it. So over
it's done. So you can cheat that dirty fast out with just fat. That's why some people
use MCT oil and medium chain fatty acids, coconut oil. I like the taste of it. That's why I go with organic heavy whipping cream
because I think it tastes gross in my coffee.
And that will allow you to cheat out a few more hours
without triggering, I don't want to get too technical
for you, but when you eat carbs or protein,
it shuts down a process called autophagy.
And that's exactly what you're fasting. It's
basically where your body breaks down dead and senescent
tissues. So this is a great thing. You can cheat it out, but
fat only. And so I like organic heavy whipping cream because it
tastes better to me than other forms of fat. Not because it's
the best form just because it makes the coffee taste better.
Now does that have dairy in it? One of the reasons I use the
French vanilla creamers
is because they have no dairy.
So what do I do?
You don't do dairy.
I don't do dairy.
Are you lactarious?
It's all earned.
Say again.
Why don't you do dairy?
Because it bothers me.
It bothers my stomach.
I can feel it through my soul.
Like I go for almond milk when I get it.
So wait, hold on.
Okay, I'm not gonna push you. If it's like a spiritual thing. Like I get it. So wait, hold on. Okay, I'm not going to push you it if it's like a spiritual
going through, but I'll eat cheese. So if you're so if there's like
mozzarella out, I'm going to eat a piece of mozzarella. But for some
reason, like milk bothers me. Does that make sense?
All right. Okay. If it bothers you, then I would switch to I would
switch to like MCT oil, like a medium chain fatty acid,
and what about butter, does butter bother you?
No.
Not as ideal, but like a grass-fed butter or beef,
for example, that's organic, clean,
because that crap that you're taking in the morning
is just so bad.
Is it crap, just be honest, it's crap.
Oh my god, really the ingredients, crop that you're taking in the morning is just. Is it crap? Just be honest. It's crap.
Oh my god.
Read me the ingredients.
Is it like the one with the artificial flavor
or the artificial?
Yes.
Yes.
Artificial up the chain, up the thing.
100%.
Uh-oh.
I see these TikToks about, like, do not use these creamers.
And I'm every morning, I'm like, I can't.
No. I don't know what to replace it with.
And I only do it once a day. I mean, is it that bad? Every time I look at food, I'm like that can save
your life, that can kill you. So I'm always going to try to find a swap that will go from killing
you to saving your life. And if I can't get you to save your life, then I'm going to try to go
somewhere in the middle like that cube of sugar with a splash of organic olive and milk. Oh my god. I'm going to do it. That I'm going to make a promise to you that I'm going to try to go somewhere in the middle like that cube of sugar with a splash of organic olive and milk. I'm going to do it. That I'm going to make a promise to you
that I'm going to do because I have guilt about it when I do do it because I know it's not the right
thing. And now if I'm having a personal session with Jillian Michaels, I'm going to listen to you.
I am going to listen to what you're telling me today. Okay, so we got past it.
And I've heard a lot that we need to get back to like
understanding our relationships with food, right?
Like you need to understand there's a little bit of a relationship with me in that coffee in the morning.
I have a relationship like I can't wait to get out of bed and grab my creamer.
And if someone drank all my creamer and it's not there in the morning, I lose my shit.
Like my day starts off from home.
I am annoyed, I am aggravated.
I'm like, who would ever drink the last of the creamer
at their nighttime coffee?
Like that was very rude.
I get so insulted.
I really do.
I get pissed actually.
You can see it all over my face.
But anyway, moving on.
I do understand. I understand.
I do. I understand.
I'm emotional thing I have with that cup of coffee in the morning.
And I'm not even a call.
Like it's just one time a day really.
Maybe sometimes I'll grab a starbots.
But moving on. Hold on for dinner.
Hold on.
Is your coffee organic?
I forgot to ask you. No. This coffee has to be our, I don't know.
I like fulgers.
I just buy fulgers.
Oh my God.
Gee, anyone, I just need to tell my listeners
if you guys can see her facial expressions
and how she's reacting to everything I'm saying.
It is like I said the worst thing she's ever heard
in her life.
She's holding her head guys.
She is literally holding her head.
Oh my god it's like drinking two-bunked check but adding like a shot of poison into it.
All right first of all.
Wait no folders.
No.
Oh what.
No organic.
Okay first of all organic coffee.
Then we can get into gourmet coffee.
Coffee is the one of the heaviliest sprayed crops in the world.
I think it's second only to cotton.
So it's got that much crap and poison on it.
Conversely, if you switch to organic coffee,
you're getting all kinds of awesomeness.
Antioxidants, polyphenols,
anything you switch it to cold brew, you're getting less of
the tannins and the acids and the, it does have its long story short. It can strip out
some of the, some of the oils that aren't as good for you. So cold brew would be ideal,
right? You can make it cold brew and heat it up. If you want to skip that and just tell
me to go fuck myself on that one or try it out.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, one. No, no, no, I'm going to get organic coffee. No, no, no, I'm going to go. I'm going to do it.
I'm going to get organic coffee. I'm going to get the little cube, the little brown cube 14.
That's no better. Whatever you said, 14 grams of sugar. Yeah, 14 calories worth of sugar.
14 grams of sugar. 14 calories of sugar. Okay, so see listeners, I obviously don't know what I'm doing. So don't ask me how I stay in shape. I don't know.
All right, guys, you know her from the Lady Gang podcast. It's so popular. And after our chat, she and I really bonded over being modern moms, especially today. Becca Tobin got real about her experiences and challenges being a new mom and struggling
with mom guilt.
I shared some advice with her based on my own experience and the importance of embracing
your career or whatever it is that you're passionate about that will make you feel like
a whole person.
Then we have some real talk about stumbling through womanhood
and I share a real life example of the struggle
that involves some two tight gene shorts.
Oh my God, guys, so embarrassing.
Wait till you hear this.
Yes, these types of things do happen on air.
Give this one a listen.
How are you doing?
Being a new mom, you're working, you're your busy girl.
So is it crazy? Do you have like that mom guilt going on or what's the deal? Yeah, the mom guilt
has started. And I thought also I would be exempt from those feelings because I just was like,
you know what I'm older and I'm and I logically know that I shouldn't feel these feelings and I'm
going to go into this. It's going to be so different. It's not.
I still feel sad when I miss bedtime and I still feel sad when, you know, just the career.
I'm so grateful for my career and I've always been really driven.
And this is the thing I wanted more than a family really was to be successful and to do
it on my own. And like, I'm really happy.
And I feel greedy having both and feeling amazing about them.
So I still have moments where it's like, you choose.
You make a choice between the two.
And there's no such thing as balance.
And I knew this because so many women that I know who have both have said, don't even attempt
it.
It's just you're going to disappoint yourself
if you think that you can find this perfect equilibrium
between the two.
I just was trying to really better.
There's no one better to tell you that than me,
to be honest, because I literally struggled with being
an at-home mom for the first five years
with these little babies.
And then I got on the Real Housewives of New Jersey.
And my little one was two months old, and Tonya, my oldest, was four years old.
And so I just jumped right in,
and it was just boom, boom, boom.
So I went from the mommy, stay at home mom,
Joe's at work, comes home, Melissa has dinner
with cute kids that are nice and clean and bathed
in their pajamas.
So we need a sitter.
I got places to go.
I have to go to New York. I'm on watch what happens live tomorrow. in their pajamas. So like, um, we need
a sitter. I got places to go.
I have to go to New York. I'm
on watch what happens live
tomorrow. I got to go like and
the mom guilt. I used to like
cry. I used to stop because
it was such a drastic change,
you know, but I've learned,
and I'm going to tell you this
right now because you're, you know'll make your child happy also. Like, you are allowed to be a mom and a business woman
and everything, and love your career
and love everything else that you're doing
the same way your husband probably does.
That would be great.
Because the mom guilt is just, we're done with that.
We don't even want to, like, it's just not fair.
We all have to be in this together.
And it's like, yes, we have a child,
we're gonna do the right thing.
We're gonna be a great mom,
but we're also gonna take care of business and live for
ourselves as well. And we cannot feel guilty for that. You know, and so there, don't, don't
feel guilty. And I didn't know it's one of the hardest, hardest things like I struggled in the
beginning, especially when they're like a little minor getting older now. But when they're
babies, you're like, I don't want to miss this. What if they say mama? What if they say dad that, you know, it's like that whole thing for you.
Yeah.
Are you happier now that you have your career?
Yes.
Like 100 and I feel guilty.
Don't feel guilty.
I say every day, I'm like, I don't think I'd be this happy if I were staying home all day.
No, you know what you would feel resentment.
Yes.
You would look at your husband who gets like either get up
and do what he wants to do and bring home money.
And like, and you'd be like, what hold on?
All I did today was change 16 diapers.
I burped the baby.
Yeah, like I love this child.
This is important, but like I have a lot more left inside of me
that like I waited for him to wake up for his nap and and you literally like not all moms were not going to like categorize this right.
But most like want more and there's like resentment and there's got to be like an even playing field. And when I think about those five years that I was just a state home mom and I used to watch Joe walk out the door at 7 a.m. and come back at 7 p.m. and I still sometimes was
in my loungewear or pajamas and and Tony was still with blocks all over the house
and like I was just like he's like how was your day I'm like I'm here like it
was great I think I went to shop right I begged my mother to come over so I can
get my nails done and then like it was just if I think about it to shop right. I begged my mother to come over so I can get my nails done.
And then like it was just, if I think about it, I'm like, how did I, like, I am so over
that and I don't think I could ever, I could never go back.
And like knowing what I know now, it was fine because I had that five years to be with
them as babies.
So I have no regrets.
But like, I love the way it is right now.
I love being able to have both and multi and new moms,
you will find your groove.
You really will.
Like it seems impossible at first.
You're like, how am I going to do this?
But just do it and it just falls into place.
Just like make it happen.
We're just very candid and I have this habit where I can't go
to a dinner party.
I can't do something social without saying something
that's either like shocking or inappropriate
or making somebody uncomfortable with how the filter
just doesn't really exist for me.
Well, I love that.
I love friends like you.
Those are always the most fun to go out with.
I just can't do, I can't do like the small talk.
We just do big talk.
So it's, if you're made uncomfortable by that,
that's unfortunate.
My husband and I have had so many conversations
leaving like work dinners where he's like,
did you need to ask my colleagues' wife
if they tried any sex toys or like if it's just,
it's just to me, I feel like when women are being
really, really candid is when we connect the most, because we're
all kind of the same. When you come down to it, we're all just trying to stumble through
like this womanhood and all of this bullshit and be our best selves. And sometimes we disappoint
ourselves and other people, but and we're really hard on ourselves. And so just coming together
every week and talking about like the trials and tribulations of stumbling through this
craziness of being a woman has been
Really uniting for a lot of women across the world and so they've sort of found each other girls who listen to the podcasts
We'll get together in different cities with each other
They'll meet up to come to our live shows together and it's just this really awesome community of women where we have no
There's just no bullshit.
We get together, good, bad, ugly, whatever.
Stumbling through women hood, like that I love.
That's an awesome quote to be honest,
because it's so true.
It's like there's so many things
that we're always trying to figure out.
And I can give you a fun fact.
I, just now, right before I started talking to you, as I was introducing you, I had a pair,
I have a pair of Jean shorts on. Okay. They're so tight squeezing up against my vagina.
Oh, the worst. No, literally. And I keep like I'm sitting here and I'm like pulling them down
and pulling them down. I'm like, I'm going to be so uncomfortable like sitting like this. They're like up like they're like, you know, when they're so tight and you can
breathe, your vagina goes numb. Yes, like I'm going numb. So I'm like, they can't see
me from the waist down. I just pulled my gene shorts off and I'm sitting here in this
t-shirt with a pair of underwear. I swear to God. Because I'm like, I'm going to get
a yeast infection with this tightness. I have.
Yeah. No, you can't fuck around with the, you need circulation down there for many reasons because I'm like, I'm going to get a yeast infection with this tightness. I have it.
No, you can't fuck around with the, you need circulation down there for many reasons, for comfort, for your microbiome.
I pulled my jaw.
Okay, I just had to show you those so that you believe me because they were squeezing it so tight.
I'm like, I'm so uncomfortable. I'm going to scream. I have underwear. It's like I'm in my bathing suit. What do you share talking to you?
It's fine.
This is why we podcast.
But if we're going to stumble through womenhood,
then I at womanhood, then I need to come correct
and tell you what I just did.
I'm proud of you.
Oh, God, guys, I loved listening to all that.
What a great episode.
I love taking a little trip down memory lane.
It's so awesome.
So shout out to all my listeners. I love taking a little trip down memory lane. It's so awesome.
So shout out to all my listeners.
I love you guys so much.
You've been so supportive.
I love that you listen to my voice every Thursday
and I appreciate you guys.
So let's all just hop right into 2023.
I'm excited for this year.
This is our year, guys.
Okay, so let's get it.
Let's treat ourselves and I love you all so much.
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