On Display with Melissa Gorga - Real Talks and TikToks (w/ Dylan Hafer)

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

Melissa invites beloved Housewives expert and director at Betches Media, Dylan Hafer, onto the podcast to get his thoughts on the latest seasons of RHOA and RHOC, why he thinks a brand new cast is sometimes a good move for a franchise, and if he thinks a certain someone might be gearing up for their return to reality tv. Antonia also pops in to let Dylan know how she feels about Dylan's TikTok video about her and her new car.  This week's sponsors: Angi - Skilled Professionals Just a Tap Away: Angi.com  JustThrive - Probiotics and MoodBiotics: justthrivehealth.com, promo code: Melissa PlutoTV - Streaming Television: Pluto.TV

the taglines are tough. I feel like I used to love the taglines and now I feel like they're cheesy a lot of the time. Hey guys, I'm really happy to have this guest on today. He's the director of entertainment and social at fetches media. He's a bravo super fan. He's the host of the mention at all podcasts. And he posts some of the most hilarious videos on Tiktok. Ladies and gentlemen, I have with me, Dylan Hafer.

Hey Melissa, thanks for having me on. Of course, how are you? I feel like I always come to your podcast. You've never, you've never been on mine yet, right? I know. I'm excited to chat about more than just whatever is going on with you every week on New Jersey. I know because I feel like whatever I come to mention at all or come into the batches, you know, workplace.

It's always we're heavy in the season. We're promoting something. into the batches, you know, work we're heavy in the season, we you have your list ready to go questions that I really don't or answer. So I'm glad we could conversation. I know the off good on you. I hope you're a little bit. Well, I know you

happening, right? I'm such a the Hamptons for 4th of July and I just need a week off. You know, we're not filming right now. We're like, we're having a little moment and I'm enjoying when I tell you every second of it. I love having like a summer off because we haven't had a summer off in oh my god, like three, four years, right? I know. I feel like I talk to some like you and some of your castmates. And it's like, we got to, we got to make things a little less sweaty, you know, we need, we need a little bit of a chill or vibe, maybe a fall season would be nice. I

don't know, it's tough because obviously we want the new episodes and the new stuff. But sometimes you got to let it breathe a little bit. I agree. And nothing. I mean, God, we're not going to really talk real hot. I said, New Jersey today, because you know, but after the reunion, we all need a little, we need a breath of fresh air. Let's just put it down. Yeah. I feel like every show does. Like I feel like, you know, every show needs to kind of

like take that little moment and, you know, figure out what makes sense. And then just kind of like come back when it's time, not like, you know, a week later. For sure, because I feel like if we all got into a room together tomorrow, we're we also feel the exact same way. None of our feelings have changed, so I don't think you would get much there would be not a lot of change happening, right? So I think it's smart to wait. And also I miss my summers. I haven't had one in years and I've never planned so many things ever like I was never able to do this. I just scheduling shit everywhere. I'm like, who needs me. Let's go. Let's book it. I'm book. I just booked Italy with Joe. I'm so excited about that. I never get to do that kind of stuff in the summer where everyone's traveling. I'm working all the time, you know, that's so nice. And it's your it's your last summer before, uh, before your first one goes leaves the nest. I can't believe it.

I know. Oh my God. I'm going to talk to you about Antonia later because you kill me. You can I we're going to I have I have some questions with you on all of that too, because your tic-tacs of her with the music and the car. The car. Just it's your facial expression, and you know when you just hear the boom, boom, boom.

So guys, for you guys that don't know, he's hysterical on TikTok. And you did a TikTok of like just a fast-muse moving car flying down Manhattan with like loud music on. And you turn your head quickly and you what did you write? You're like this is Antonio Gorgha flying by and you're poor. Wait hold on Antonio's right here. Did you see that tic-tac? Could you die? I did. I actually reposted it on tic-tac because I do blast music in my car all the time. I just I don't know I thought it was funny. Wait that's how I know you're coming in the time. I just, I don't know, I thought it was funny. Wait, that's how I know you're coming in a driveway. I've been here, her coming through the driveway.

So when I saw you post that, I was dead. What's so funny is that I feel like I'm, I like TikTok, but I'm not always on it. Like I don't post a ton all the time. So sometimes I post a video and it gets like two comments. And then all of a sudden I post that video. And I start getting all these comments that it's like, did you hear such and such happen with the car?

You know, Antonio, this is that. I'm like, we gotta, no, this is not the comment section for that. Like I don't take it somewhere else. First of all, it was so, I'm not gonna lie. It's popped up on my algorithm, I guess, because it's Antonio, whatever, at least three different times. And every single time I literally laugh at something about the way your face is, and to be

honest with you, when she pulls in this driveway, I can hear her pull in the driveway, because the music's that loud, and she blasts, and she's like known for that. So hysterical, like that you hit the nail on the head with that. And I know everybody commenting these people, like the rumors, sometimes that I read, you know, poor, this poor girl, 17 years old, they're writing her car is gone. It's compensated. It's the, I'm like, what? Like, where do they even pull this from? She's like, Mom, what are they talking about? I'm like, I don't know. They pull it from like the clear blue sky. Like there's no rhyme or reason to even like say these things. And for people who don't know, like random lying people, Twitter, whatever it was, you know,

the other side's fans would make things up just saying like her car. She doesn't even have that car anymore. She doesn't have that. Of course, it got taken away. It was like nothing of the sort has ever happened. Right. You know, like her car, she doesn't even have that car anymore. She doesn't have that. Poor it. It got taken away.

It got it was like nothing of the store has ever happened, you know, people are finding like, you know, receipts just the out of thin air. It's it's crazy. There are no receipts. They're they're just like now you could just like make believe things and just say them. It gets it's gets a little cookie and crazy. So my daughter finally after like a couple months was so frustrated. She's's like I just took a picture of my steering wheel and I posted it and I'm like okay that's I mean she's 17 like it probably started to annoy her every time she's

like I need them to stop like staying you know right just don't put don't put the license plate number but I know I know I told her don't ever do that. You know, but anyway, your TikTok, your your historical. So anyway, gay pride right now in the city. How has it been? I see you're out there doing your thing. What's going on in the world of New York and gay pride? It's been fun. I feel like every year is a little different. I think last year was kind of the first time it was really back since the pandemic. So now it's just there's always so many events and parties and things happening. But you know, I I feel like that's the best thing about being in New York is that there's so much going on, whether it's pride happening, whether it's, you know, the housewives coming to town, you know, any I saw Whitney from Real House

says the Salt Lake City was doing a pride event at some gay bar in the city last week. And I'm like, I look, I don't know how that happened or like who set it up. But I think it's I think it's great. I think it's so much fun. I know I had a

couple invites, but because everything that's going on with Antonia this year, she's grad. There's like a graduation party or ceremony or prom for every single time they've asked me to do stuff this year. I honestly miss. You remember the Bravo

float where they would just pick certain housewives and we would have our heads on a stick and like go through. I don't know why Bravo didn't do that this year. I loved doing that. Like the float. It was awesome. We got to bring back the float.

I feel like it was so fine. It's so fun. And I don't know. Maybe now they're too focused on wrangling you all for Bravo Con. That's it. We're ready. Trust me. That's all in the talks already. Bravo Con is in the air. It's in our cell phones. We're signing things. It's like a whole. Bravo Con is happening. And it's, you know, and that's where I do think their head is. They're like focused on bravo con

right now because it's crazy. What do you think about bravo con and Vegas, by the way? Do you like that? I've never been to Vegas. I've never done Vegas. So I am. I feel like I am a lost, you know,

I don't know what's going on. I don't know where to be. I mean, I'll be there and I'll be exhausted, I'm sure. But, you know, you're going, obviously. I'm going, I'm going, we're spoiled in New York that it's like, you know, an Uber ride away or, you know, a train ride away to get to the venue. And so now going to Vegas, it's, I think it'll be fun,

but it'll also be like a little stressed. Yeah, well, I'll be honest with you, people either love or hate Vegas. You're, that's just how it is. Like, someone's like, oh my god, I love Vegas. It's my absolute favorite place and other people are like, it's, don't ever bring me back. It's chaos. It's, you never sleep. Like, you just, it's like people either love it or hate it. I have to be honest, I'm a little annoyed. It's not in New York. I feel like the New York New Jersey girls are a little spoiled

because for the last couple of times we've gotten to just, you know, we could go home if we want. We stay in this city. It's easy breezy. We don't have to get on a plane and fly across the country. I like it better in New York, but it seems to be everyone's very excited about Vegas, but I'm kind of not. I want it to be in New York. I feel the same way. I think it'll be cool. I mean, every, every makeup artist,

every glam, every whatever in the country is going to be, it's going to be there that weekend. Oh, please, I booked all hair and makeup already because I know it's going to be there that weekend. Oh, please. I've booked all hair and makeup already, because I know it's going to be rough, right? I've booked all hair and makeup. All our rooms are booked. I have so many friends. Do you know there's a giant scheme that happens to be that same weekend? So so many people actually go out there anyway

from New York and New Jersey, because there's a giant scheme the same weekend. So I have friends that are going to be out there. There's just, it's going to be a crazy. So I have friends that are going to be out there. Like there's just it's going to be a crazy. I need to like really take a lot of what is that called?

Like all the things that give you nutrition before take a lot of zinc, a lot of vitamins. That's going to be a long couple days. They got to have like the IV drip for the hangover in the hotel in the morning. Yes, yes, we need all of these things. Um, all right. So listen, obviously you're a Bravo

super fan, right? So speaking of Bravo, I feel like you know, just about everything there is no about Bravo. There's a couple of you out there that I feel like I feel confident in saying like you'd be able to answer almost any question

that I've asked you. I mean, what was your real, like, gateway show on Tabrava? What show for you, like, was like, oh my God, I'm in. And when did that start for you? My gateway was real houses of New York. Like, when I was in college, maybe a little after. And I just was like, you know what? It's time. I, you know, everybody tells me I'd love housewives.

Let me, let me see what's up. I think I had watched a few episodes of Beverly Hills or something like that before. And I feel like one day it just was like the right time and all of a sudden it's like this rabbit hole that you fall down and it's like New York, New Jersey of course, Beverly Hills, Vandipump rules was like an early one for me. I feel like some of the, you know,

it was kind of like a couple of years over the course where I kind of got up to date on everything and then you get to a point where it's just like, wow, I've invested a lot of time in this and lucky for me, I found a way to make it my job. I feel like some people, I'm like, I couldn't possibly keep up the way I do if it wasn't what I was doing every day. Like because you literally do this for a living now, you basically talk Bravo for a living

each and every day over there at Betches, right? Yeah. And you know, going back talking about BravoCon, the way we kind of started this whole Bravo by Betges on social and then the podcast later was back before BravoCon in 2019, the first one they ever did, we, you know, the Bravo like fan pages and social media stuff was really kind of getting bigger. And so I was talking to, you know, our co-founders and stuff. I know you've had Aline on the podcast before. I have. I love it. And they're big Bravo fans as well. And so we were kind of talking like, you know, this is a big thing. We should be in this conversation. BravoCon is around the corner. We're going to be there. It would be silly not to kind of capitalize on that in a way. So we actually launched the

Instagram page like a week or two before BravoCon in 2019. And that was our first big thing where it was like we're here. And we're Bravo. Because it's Bravo by Betis, right? And that's you who basically runs that whole page, right? Yeah, which is, you know, so that's like three and a half years ago. And, you know, I've taken a vacation here and there, but it's almost, it's almost always me. And so it's, it is crazy to think about kind of the, all the seasons and all the shows and, you know, people we've met since then, like it really is such a journey being, you know, in this community. Do you ever feel like you're stuck in the middle of a stress storm?

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wow, she is nothing like I thought or she was nasty or give me something that's kind of you are. It was very unexpected. They're usually on pretty good behavior when I talk to them. I haven't had any like, because they have a publicist from Bravo sitting right next to them all the time, right? Every single time. Actually, just earlier today,

I had Sonia and Luan. Oh my God, I can't wait to watch crappy lake. Yeah, it's, so that show is so funny. I've seen the first couple episodes and so they came in and the two of them together on a podcast, it's like, I think I asked like three questions in 30 minutes. I'll just talk the whole entire the whole entire time. I've worked with both of them separately and together. And to be honest with you, almost any of the original New York housewives, you cannot get a word in edgewise, no matter what you're doing,

whether you're filming with them, whether you're, I did a Home Goods commercial with some of them. They were telling the production, what to do. I was like, wow, you just, they have their own little like language, and they just go right? Yeah, it's it's funny. I feel like the different different housewives from different cities kind of have a different like vibe about them like I think the the New York women just kind of have this

I don't know they just like they always know what's going on and they're gonna Tell you exactly how to take the picture and they're gonna tell you you, you know, exactly what, like, what's wrong with your outfit and like, stuff. I don't know. It's so funny. And then I feel like, you know, some of the different cities, like, I think the Salt Lake City women are so funny to me, like, the way they, it's just like they're, I think because their show started so much later, like they kind of, everything is a little more like they're very aware of the social media aware of the situation, right? What do you think about Jersey girls? Like what are we like when we come to your little office and sit

there and talk? Do we do we do you get stressed when you have to talk to us because of the teams and the social so like crazy. Like is it a stressful thing or do you not give a shit? I definitely give a shit. I'm less stressed about like, you know, the conversation and more just making sure that I ask what I want to ask and kind of that it that it flows smoothly. Because I think sometimes like with you, I've met you enough times now where it's not like, oh, this, this strange person on TV that I've never encountered before. But like, sometimes when you meet someone for the first time, it takes a little bit to like, to catch the wavelength. And so I feel like, you know, I've had you and Margaret and Jackie and Dolores, all of the podcast. And they're also easy to talk to that it's really not like a,

it doesn't feel like you're kind of like, you know, chipping away at the, yeah. So a lot of people say that about the Jersey career. We're a lot of things, but that is one thing that production usually said. We're actually very easy to work with, which is shocking probably to most, but we do get that all the time that we're actually the easy to work with, which is shocking probably to most, but we do get that all the time. That we're actually the kindest and the believator that we're pretty kind and easy to work with, which I don't know if that would surprise people or not,

but that's usually the feedback. Yeah, I think it's funny because people have the idea that if you're involved in drama on the show, that that means you're like a nightmare in real life all the time. Right. And it's like all the stuff that happens on the show is like a heightened situation, you're dealing with a lot of emotions,

you're going through something with your friends or your family or whoever. But then when you're speaking to a producer or a podcast interview or something, that's like a separate interaction. Right. Right. It's completely different.

I get it. I get it. So you don't have any horror stories with anybody on any of these franchises. I did have, it was like the day before the week of BravoCon, I think last year. I had Austin and Craig from Southern Charm come in the office. And it was like, it was the end of the day. They were drinking for sure. I feel like they're always drinking. It was like, you know, they were running a little late. They had another interview before. And so by the time they got to the, to the

studio, it was a little bit like, okay, this one's gonna be a little bit loose and it's gonna be loose and rough around the edges. Yeah, they like they had had it was like so they had some like tension between the two of them that they were kind of like, I don't know, there was like some I don't know it was very like, okay, I feel like I walked into something here. You're like, what's happening and And they were trying to remain professional, but probably, you know, wasn't working out. Right. It's exciting. Then that's a fun interview. It's funny when you have like the pairs or like two or three people at once that you're interviewing because like, sometimes it's best friends. Like I had Alexia and Marisol on the podcast together.

And like they're, you know, they are speaking to each other. It's like very like casual back and forth. And then sometimes it's like, okay, what's the, what's the vibe here? Are we are we loving each other today? Yeah, like you two are not feeling each other today. Exactly. Unbelievable.

I mean, well, let's talk about some current housewives shows that are airing right now. Are you watching Atlanta? I am, yeah. And what do you feel? Are you watching Atlanta? I am, yeah. I'm what do you feel? Are you feeling like, you know, some people were complaining that it's missing something or I don't know. I'm kind of liking it. I haven't seen a lot of it. But what are your real thoughts?

I, I feel I have mixed feelings about this season. I think that their cast is really good. I just I think some of the some of the specific scenarios just aren't quite holding my attention, but like I love I think Sheree is one of the funniest most watchable people on Bravo. And so I always think like the way she argues with people, the way she carries herself really is just so really is just so like fast. It has a snark. She has like that snark, right? Like she knows how to bring this snarky when she needs to be snarky. And I think Kenya is like so.

She's somebody that I would watch do anything. So it's like, you know, they have people on that show where it's like, I don't even necessarily need, you know, the big, the big, big drama. It's like, I just think they're fun to watch as a group. Right. I agree. Wait, can we just talk about Kim Solziac for a second? Because you probably know this answer without me knowing.

Is she coming back? Because I don't really know this or is it like a cameo? What's happening? I think it's a cameo for now. I think every, so she's on that, she's on like the next episode. I think just like hanging out with Shirei. but I think now that she and Kroy are, you know, going away. Everybody's kind of like, what if Kim came back for real?

Right. Which I think Bravo would be very interested in because there's a lot of drama going on. I mean, every time I open the internet or, you know, Instagram, which is now our new source, I see like you see this nine, did you hear this 911 call where she was literally holding in and saying he's dangerous and the kidnap being basically that I guess she allowed her friend to pick up the child and then he thought it wasn't right and they were having an argument. I'm like, what went wrong with these two? I thought they were like, they were pro creating,

like they were like, they'd never stopped pro creating. I just thought they were like this big happy family, but it seemed like maybe something went wrong financially and then that caused a riffer. Or what do you really think it was? You know, it's so strange. And I agree that it always seemed like they had this united front. And I guess, you know, clearly there so strange and I agree that it always seemed like they had this united front.

And I guess, you know, clearly there's a lot going on, whether it's, you know, there's lots of different stories about the money stuff or, you know, the people thought they were going to lose their home. I don't know what the status of that is right now. But I think it's, it's tough when somebody's been on TV for such a long time. And then they, that goes away, like whatever they kind of were keeping up on the show they had their spin off show for a long time. Like maybe maybe once that was not part of the equation suddenly it was like, do we actually still want to be here together maybe not I don't know. Right. I feel like once all of the cameras are gone for a long period of time, sometimes

you're like, Oh, well, we that because that's kind of how they met. He met her as that. And they just started the relationship. She was having such a rough time with the other

girls. They basically started their marriage off this show, right? It was like from very beginning. So maybe once it was gone, they, I don't know. And there's so many other

rumors, the gambling and this and that. And I'm just like, where's Kim Zolls the act with the red solo cup and the wig and the cigarette hanging out her mouth? Because that's just what I used to love about her in the beginning. She was just so raw. And she would just say it like it is before she started becoming the master mother of the world and just making babies everywhere. I'll never forget her little ones were. Her daughter was the most beautiful.

Oh my God, that little, the little girl, cutest, cutest kids. So I do feel bad for that because there's a lot of kids there and that it kind of sucks. I mean, was there any red flags that you ever saw in that marriage that you thought maybe this would happen? Not really. I mean, I think Kim is somebody who is, you know, she always when she's on the housewives, it's, it's going to be some drama. And so, you know, maybe, you know, it's hard to know behind closed doors. I think it seems messy enough right now that it's

probably for the best that they're not filming a TV show, but maybe, maybe once Kim comes out the other side, maybe it would be an interesting time to see her back on the show. I don't, I don't know. She's not, Kim is not like my favorite housewife ever, but I do think she's really entertaining. Right. I do think it would be hard for her though to just jump back in there, like into the mix, unless she really has like a, she has, you know, Shiree, right? So she needs like a bestie or something to come back. Or else it might be weird. But let's go, Bravo. Give her a job.

She wants to work again. I think she wants to come back, right? I'm going to assume so. Oh, my God. All right. Let's jump to OC for one second. Talk to me about Tamara coming back with Shannon. What do you, what do you feel about Tamra's come back?

I'm excited to have Tamra back. I think I like seeing Heather back last season. And I feel like Tamra's kind of the, the next step, like they really have kind of built back up the cast the way it needs to be. I think Tamra is one of those people where she's so smart about what makes good TV that in a way, like having her on the show is like more than just It's more than just like one addition to the cast because you're gaining kind of this like chess player for the whole equation a thousand percent a thousand percent I kind of feel like Margaret that sometimes on our show. I feel like a little bit sometimes I just feel like she like where I feel like I just deal with what comes to me and I'm like, what are you guys saying today? But like I get that. I think

Tamra does understand like where the road is leading and what's next and like, you know, I think she sees the big picture, but I also think she's a great, I mean, they needed her back. I will say that and I think she's doing amazing and I love her to death. So I am so happy to see her back, but I'll never forget her. My favorite Tamer days were her in Gretchen. I know she would probably hate to hear that,

but those beginning days when Gretchen joined the show with the older man and Tamer was just ripping her 24 hours a day and like torturing this poor girl. I was just riveting TV to watch the two of them, like, battle for the pretty girl spot and all of that. I, I'll never forget those days and then Gretchen and all of her extra glam and just, it was just those were the best days of O.C. For me, ever, like, I loved those days. I'm wondering because

we're because Gretchen did the ultimate girls trip in Morocco. And I'm wondering if maybe like next season of OC if she's trying to to get back in there a little bit. I mean, I could totally see that happening just because I mean, they're just going to bring the whole old cast back. I could totally see it happening. I can't wait to watch that Morocco. There was so much talk about all of that like that. I'm waiting for it.

Did they have a release date for that yet? I think it's going to be in the fall. That's I somebody said the fall, but I don't know yet. Okay. Well, we'll see. What do you feel about Shannon too? Like the feud with Tamra and Shannon? Look, I like Shannon.

I feel like she can never catch a break. And now that Tamra's back, it's like kind of the logical first step. But I think I think she and Tamra will be okay. I think they're going to, you know, they're going to find it out for a few episodes and then probably be okay. But I, I don't know. Shannon is so funny because I feel like it's almost like she can never do anything right a little bit in that group that it's like, you know, Kelly's gonna come for her and then Heather's gonna come for her and then Shan, Tamara's gonna come for her and one of these days, she just needs to have like an easy season.

Um, believe I always like she gets like it is always a hard season for Shannon, right? And I know her personally about dinner with her. I've seen her a bunch of times through her, you know, she's held herself together through everything she's had to go through in life too on the show. So I give her credit. I really do love all the OC girls. I every time I see them, I think they're also sweet. They're all very kind and person. So I, you know, I love them all. Okay, guys, I have to tell you about Angie. It's your home for everything home and they've made it easier than ever

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which one get I know you love them all, but which one really gets you like excited? I think because New York was the first one I watched, those old classic seasons of New York where it feels very self-contained, they weren't that famous yet, there wasn't a lot of outside energy happening. Yeah, I think now when you watch housewives, it still can be really entertaining and exciting in a different way, but there's something about a new group of exciting in a different way, but there's something about like a new group of people before they kind of before they know what's in store for them. I think that's so kind of any show those like early seasons, even I think, you know, watching back like the first few seasons of Jersey is so like that too, where it's like y'all are just like some, you know, some housewives of do Jersey.

We're all just there with our kids and the kids and the boys and the husbands and the oh my god, I can't I wouldn't like season three pops on or season four, which is now 13 years ago. I'm like, wow, like what was I wearing? What is

this? Like what is the bracelet on my red? What did I just say? Like, it's so weird. And I think a lot of people forget too. I joined the show at 31 years old. So I was also, like I was young, you know, I was young trying to like maneuver this life anyway and just becoming a mom and a wife

and doing all this on TV and being judged was not easy, you know, and especially with all our family drama. Oh my God. It's funny to think about like when I watch the show and I go back to old episodes and like, oh, that fight was great. Like that trip was so iconic, but for you on the show, you're like, that bracelet. Why did I wear that? Like, why did my hair look that way on that day?

Yes. Yes. I'm like, wait, who did this to me? And I say this, I remember in the beginning of season, the producers would almost like, like they'd be like, I think you should put on one more layer to your necklace. I think that your lipstick could be a little darker.

I'm like, what's like, how much joy do you want me to put on? And would you believe when I watch it now, I'm like, oh my God, how many bracelets are on my arm? Like, that's what I think about as, as you guys are all watching the family rumble, I'm like dying over like all of these outfits and the glitter and like, it's, it's insane. Um, but you know, wait, are you excited about the new New York thing? Because you're a New Yorker. Do you know any of these girls personally?

I, I am excited. I actually, so I've gotten to watch the first couple episodes of it already. And I I'm liking it. It's very I think oh, you have seen the first couple episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to because I got to interview a couple of them. And I think I hope people watch it with an open mind because I think if you're only, if you're already watching it being like, this is stupid. I want Ramona back, you know, like, of course, you're going to be annoyed. But I think it's a fun cast. I think it really feels kind of like what I was just saying about some of the early seasons where they kind of, you know, the women don't always know, you know, all of the opportunities they're

going to be available and all of the fandom that's going to come along with it. It feels all of a sudden, like you're watching six real people just kind of live out their lives in a way that feels kind of fresh and different. And it is, you know, a newer group, a younger group, people with interesting things going on. But I don't know. I mean, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to lie. If it's, if it's boring, I'll say it's boring, but I think I'm excited to do what you feel Dylan. What did you feel Dylan? It's different. I've heard Andy say it's different. Yeah. I think it's, it's definitely worth, it's worth giving a chance and I think like you know for me I'm in a position where I have to watch all this stuff. I have to talk about it. It's my job

So I'm gonna do my best to enjoy it But I think I think people who like you know good quality reality television will Will at least be you know into it enough to check it out and give it a few episodes. I think the girls are gorgeous, by the way. Like almost every one of them on the promo. I'm like, these girls are beautiful. Like I'm interested in all of their, I love how they did the little Broadway book or whatever, but every little, their little intro for each one of them. I'm like, they're also beautiful and they seem spicy and cute. So I'm definitely watching. That I want to, I'm definitely going to check it out. Do you have a tagline? Did you ever have a tagline

in your head that if you ever became a housewife, you know your tagline? I don't think I ever did. I don't know the, the taglines are tough. I feel like I used to love the taglines and now I feel like they're cheesy a lot of the time. I agree. Can you please make my new tagline up for next year and just start DMing it to me. I want it to be something about, I mean, I don't know that there is an extra. This is just me talking shit, but you know, I'll DM you what I'd like it to be about. Okay. Yeah, give me some, give me some, I want to give you some news. And then maybe you can help me come up with with with my new one if there is a new season

Okay, my I'll give you my freelance rate for that one. Yes, please I have to end with talking to you about that you were at watch what happens live last night Right with Jennifer Lawrence. I absolutely love did you watch her kiss Andy? I Did yeah, I was I was in the room where it happens. So cute. I know I actually saw that because people were sending me clips because I was so happy. She said she she was T Melissa, which by the way, I love her to death. So I melted a little bit inside. I so people kept sending me clips and then they sent me the clip of Andy. And I thought he looked like a little schoolboy like all giddy, like very excited to like lay it on her. Yeah, it was, it was a funny moment. I think they, it was in, it might have been in the after show, but they, it was like, they came back from a commercial break.

And Andy's like Jennifer asked if we can kiss. So we're going to kiss. And it was like, okay, sure. You felt like he looked uncomfortable and I I'm like, oh my God, did you actually meet her and talk to her? I didn't get a chance to talk to her, but it was, it was funny. She came out and the, the guy who's in the movie with her was the bartender for the episode. So it was fun because they had like their, their banter back and forth. And I think the thing about her is that like, she's such an

a-list star. But then when she starts talking about housewives and bravo, you can tell that she, like, really, really watches the episodes. For sure. There's a couple, like, and I would say a-list celebrities that when they start discussing housewives, like they're holding minor changes and they're like serious. And they know the answers and the details. I'm always like, this is probably their relief too from life and like the craziness of it all. And like it just humanizes them so much that they love to watch these like reality shows

and the housewives shows. I've definitely had a couple that I've come in contact that I would say are pretty A plus celebrities that I was like in shock that they even knew who I was. I'm like, oh my God, you know, you know my lines? I'd never forget I had P. Diddy walk up to me once and he was like, thank you, Jesus, thank you, Jesus.

I was like, I'll never forget that. I love that. There's a couple other ones, like Leah Remini. I love her. She chose Chase Me Down a movie theater one time. She's like, Melissa Joe. I was like, I just like certain ones really like take you back. And you're like, wow, even yesterday, my mother is the one who told me about Jennifer Lawrence. And she shoots me text. She's like, look who knows who you are. That's what Donna Marco text me. But it's funny because like when you're, you know,

watch what happens live, they do so many episodes and when you're not in season or they're not really like having the Jersey girls on, it's like, yeah, you're not gonna watch every minute, but then these things will come up and it's like, okay. Yeah, it's crazy. They see it. They know it. They know what they're talking about. So yeah, sure. Anyway, Dylan, it was so. They see it. They know it. They know what they're talking about. So.

Yeah. Sure. Anyway, Dylan, it was so good talking to you today. You're so much fun. The next time I'm sure I'll be in the office. I hope promoting real hotlines of New Jersey again, eventually, but everybody.

Make sure you check out his podcast. Mention it all. You're he's super great on that and listen, you do your podcast takes off. It does so so well. So congratulations on all of that. And hopefully I will see you soon. Thank you. I hope so too. You have an open invite to the batches office anytime. So I know I'll be there. If I don't see you at like Bravo Con or something for. Yeah, I'll see you. We'll be at the slot machines in November. For sure. I play Blackjack. So that's my thing.

So I'll see you at the Blackjack table. OK, we can win some hands together. Yes, yes. OK, honey, so good to see you. I'll see you soon. Thank you. Thanks so much, Melissa. All right, bye.

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