On Display with Melissa Gorga - Reunited Doesn't Feel So Good
Episode Date: June 8, 2023It's a special week as Melissa and Joe hop on the mics to talk all about Parts 1 and 2 of the Jersey reunion. While Melissa fills us in on all the drama that happened on stage, Joe tells us what it wa...s like being backstage, and the two don't hold back on addressing the accusations, rumors, and truths that came out during these wild episodes. Plus, Melissa talks about the side comment heard 'round the world, and what Dolores really meant when she told Melissa to "sleep with one eye open." This week's sponsors: Angi - Skilled Professionals Just a Tap Away: Angi.com PlutoTV - Streaming Television: Pluto.TV ZocDoc - Quality Doctors at Your Fingertips: ZocDoc.com/Melissa
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And you know what the world doesn't revolve around you?
It's not all about you, and that's that.
Hi everybody, welcome to another episode of On Display with Melissa Gorga.
Excited to talk to you guys all today.
I have my better half with me today.
I just not gonna let you interrupt me.
I'm just gonna introduce you right off the cuff this time.
I have Joe Gorgah.
That's what I was waiting for that.
So I just said, you know why?
You're pretty rude and you just like interject all the time.
So instead I just boom, here he is.
I got Joe Gorgah today, everyone.
Hi, everybody.
Hi, Joe.
Hi, Zio.
I'm Visaline doing.
You play with it on your teeth all the time,
and it drives me insane.
Well, Frank and Tanya got new teeth.
You know, there's new white choppers.
Yeah, he got choppers.
They offer to give you choppers, but you don't need them.
I don't think I need them yet.
No, you have good teeth.
You just are getting, you know what happens as you get older?
I feel like teeth start, like especially at your bottom, they start to like get a little happens as you get older? I feel like teeth start, like especially at your bottom.
They start to like get a little crooked as you get older.
Everybody keeps, everyone I know says-
Well, I never had braces.
We didn't have the money, you know,
we were Italian, my father's a shoemaker, my mother.
You didn't have braces?
You have really good teeth for not having braces.
Because my mother used to say when my teeth used to fall out,
she's like, don't touch your teeth with your tongue.
So I used to sit there, my tongue barely touching my teeth, because she's like, it's gonna make a crooked, because they didn't have your teeth with your tongue. So I used to sit there my tongue barely touching my teeth
She's like it's gonna make it crooked because they didn't have the money to get braided
Yeah, and now all I do is watch you touch your teeth with your tongue because of the invisible line
It's crazy. You get jealous when that happens, don't you? No, not at all. It's actually a turn off
Because it's weird to see you constantly a little excited
No, it's weird to see you constantly fidgeting with your mouth
because you're like, I know what you're doing.
You're feeling all the little things and everything.
But I think by getting veneers, it might be better
in the long run because there's no more cavities.
Right, no, there's definitely no teeth.
You're not getting any root canals and all that stuff.
So I don't know, I'm thinking about it.
No, I mean listen, they also take your beautiful teeth, right?
And shave them down to zero.
I'm just so afraid.
I look like a, you know, I got these bright white.
No, and then a lot of people have them.
Some of them they look great and some people, it's a dead giveaway.
Like I see the fake teeth.
Like some of my girlfriends, they're smiling now.
And I'm like, I don't even see see you I just see your teeth. You see Frank
at Daniel's his teeth before he's seeing him now but he looks good. The teeth
come in and there's Frankie you know you can't miss him. Yeah but I'll be
honest with you he looks so much younger doesn't he? He looks great. Let me tell
you something he blew it up on at reunion. Who came out of nowhere Frank
at Daniel. Oh yeah well we to talk for you in a minute.
How many years, how many years is Frank Italian, but I'm a show?
The he's been on as long as the Lord. So I don't know.
I don't know how long the Lord is five years. Five years, five years.
So well, we're going to get to reunion. We're going to get to reunion.
We have, obviously, we have a lot of reunion to talk about.
But before we do, I want to talk about Antonia's prom, Joe.
How cute was that?
So sad.
I don't know.
I don't know whether to be happy.
I'm happy.
I'm sad.
I know.
I know.
It really is.
Then you go see, because she just had prom with her mom
ville kids.
Right.
So Antonia, as you guys know, you saw on the show,
I, you know, she split high schools up after her.
It's like basically her sophomore year.
So she went to her first year and a half of high school.
At one high school, and then we moved her.
And now she's finishing high school the last two, three years here.
Because of COVID, I feel like she didn't even get to go to the original high school either.
It was just like insane.
Yes.
But either way, those were the kids that she grew up with her whole life. because of COVID, I feel like she didn't even get to go to the original high school either. It was just like insane.
But either way, those were the kids that she grew up with her whole life.
And it was so nice, one of the boys took her to that prom.
So she was able to go to the high school prom with all of the kids she grew up with.
And then next week, she's going again with Ramma Paul High School, you know, with her
high school, she's at now.
So she's actually lucky.
Everybody was so distressed that I was know, with her high school. She's at now. So she's she's actually lucky everybody was so
Distressed that I was moving my daughter in high school. She's very happy. So I'm so even her like even you
She's great. She's got two sets of friends. I mean, it's insane right to two sets of friends two sets of schools
You know so many more children because who's going to college here? Who's going to college?
There she is all these friends now and Tony, officially chose the University of Delaware.
So we're very excited about that.
Wait, I was going to get to something and you keep talking.
You don't make me talk.
Okay, what do you want to say?
Respect me as a guest.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Because I was talking about, I mean, my girl, you just keep going.
I know, you do that to your other guest.
Here's the thing, if you keep talking this guy, he loses his train of thought.
You can't stumble him too much.
Yeah. Because then he's like, what was I going to say? keep talking this guy, he loses his train of thought. You can't stumble him too much. Yeah, yeah.
Because then he's like, uh, what was I gonna say?
No, because when I got it on my mind,
I want to talk about it, because I was getting emotional.
We were talking about Antonio.
Yeah, Antonio went back, so we went to, um,
picture day, what is that?
Prom pictures?
Well, the prom pictures, yeah.
And there was like 80 kids there.
And then I go in, I haven't seen these kids.
I used to be their coach, the wrestling coaches.
And now they all grew up.
So everybody's just, you know, big teenagers going to college.
And in a, here I am, I'm like so emotional.
I want to cry.
And my daughter in this dress looks amazing.
Look, gorgeous.
All the girls, they all just grew up.
And they're just young adults.
And it's just sad.
It really is, it's a happy moment,
but it's a more of a sad moment, you know,
and we are getting older and they're just going
and they're gone.
Man, they're gonna go to college.
Yeah.
And it's just, it's crazy.
And she had a lot of great colleges to choose from.
I mean, she got into Penn State,
she got into Rutgers, she got into Rutgers. She got into Charleston.
She got into Rhode Island.
I want her to go to Penn State because I wanted to go to all the football games. That would have been my excuse.
You know, I would be hanging out all the frat parties. Here's a fun fact. Delaware, please
Penn State this year in football. So that'll be a fun little game to come to. Yeah, it'll be fine.
To Delaware.
Yeah, I'll be hanging out.
You University of Delaware, it's only two and a half hours away.
If you can't find me, baby, I'll be wearing a little
flat party's with your daughter.
Y'all okay, you that would be creepy.
Look, you think we got other creepers around us now?
That would be ultra freaking creepy.
Oh, there are definitely a lot of people.
Tony, why is your dad here at the Fratt party?
I know, though, Love me, man.
I guarantee you by the time she graduates in the four years,
they'll make a statue out of me.
Put it right on campus.
Oh God.
You sound ridiculous.
You're watching that movie too much.
That one, that one where you go streaking.
And my favorite.
Oh, guys, this is a fun fact.
My one of my favorite actors.
I have a couple favorite actors.
Let's see.
Let's play a game.
Do you know who my favorite actor is? I have a couple favorite actors. Let's see, let's play a game. Do you know who
my favorite actor is? I do Vince Vaughn. Yes. I literally know that he's not like the, I don't
something about him. Any movie Vince Vaughn is in. I enjoy. I'm in. He's funny. He's entertaining.
He's just so real. It's like, it's like like you feel like you're watching your friend. It's almost like he's a reality show.
Like you're talking about your husband right now.
No, Dal, no, no.
Exactly.
But wait, so first of all, Antonio looked beautiful.
So I'm excited.
She actually had the best night.
I'm so happy for her.
She enjoyed it.
They, you know, she got to see your cousins too,
which was really sweet.
I loved that.
And then she went to prom house after.
And oh my god, oh Lord, we don't want to talk.
I, I forget. I don't think I did the prom house. I don't think it was allowed to do it. There's
like these prom houses now where all these kids stay together. There was 50 kids in a
sure house. Yeah. Together. Just fun. You know, it must be time of their life. But they,
they all respect each other.
They all grew up together.
It was cute.
Wait, let's talk about how my family thought it was so strange that Antonia.
So while my daughter is at prom house, my sister's like, why would you allow her?
My sister grew up like me, very strict.
We weren't allowed to do these things.
So my sister was kind of getting on me while she was there for the weekend.
And she was like, why did you allow her to do this?
Like, what is this?
Why would you, most of no, I don't like this.
And I was like, no, this is how life is now, Lisa.
This is what they do.
And she's like, well, I don't like, I'm like, look, she literally is sending me videos,
live videos.
Is it like what they're doing there?
And my sister was like in shock because my kids are so honest with us.
They tell us everything, right?
I just trust my children.
I really do.
I just put a lot of time into them. I raised them I think you know right now they're doing great so I trust her
100% and if I did in trust her and let's say she was a wild kid then I would never never say never
I get nervous saying too good because we got lucky so far we don't want anything to change so let's just keep it
as it's why I say I mean you know I but I also put the fear god into their their bodies
of anything I but I kill them the fear god oh yeah my dad put the fear god I was scared one time I'll
never forget I was tying my shoes and I was probably like Joe 11 10 I don't even know and I was like
I can't get this freaking shoe tied he's like why did you just know and I was like I can't get this freaking shoot tied He's like, what did you just say and I was like freaking and he that was like very unacceptable that I said
Again, it was like that. Yeah, like he did not like that. I said my father. We couldn't swear. Oh my god
He never sworn a house either. He was so proper. He really was wearing no look
He was so proper. I don't know what happened to my sister now
He was so good. I mean my parents are great. Oh my god
I mean she complains why are you two so crazy? You get crazy crazy because I get emotional and I do get crazy
Like I'm so emotional. It's not me freaking. I grew up. Let's I grew up on sports wrestling football tough in the hood
You know, I had to be tough.
I had to hold my own, you know, but my parents are great.
I mean, I know my sister, you know,
one time she had an episode where she went
and she was complaining that he yelled a lot or,
I don't know, she's like, he was had a bad temper.
I am so happy.
He had that temper because he kept me such in line. If he was, if he
didn't have a temper and he wasn't a hard man, who knows who I would have done.
I had no fear. I mean, I had fear, but if I had no fear, what I would have gotten so
much more trouble. So, um, wait, talking about prom, did you go to the prom?
I mean, you just cut me off. I was just talking about something else.
I know, but I really want to know if you went to the prom.
I did go to the prom.
And I really, when I was through high school,
a real girl.
Well, let me finish.
When I was in high school, I really didn't hang
go to the school dances.
I always hung out with the older kids at a high school.
My friends were 18, 19, 20. I didn't hang out with the older kids at a high school. My friends were 18, 19, 20.
I didn't hang out with high school kids.
So when it was prom time, my football coach was like,
listen, you got that valedictorian thing?
No, no, you're definitely were not valvictorian.
What is that?
OMG.
MVP.
Most valuable player.
You were not valvictorian. What is a valvictory?
What is the most the smartest person? No, no, no, no, I wasn't the smartest person in the school. No, I was
I was what happens on like Thanksgiving day. The hardest worker. I will give you the hardest worker
statue in that school. You probably worked the hardest. What happened that Thanksgiving day
when at the football game and then they take
the king and the queen, I guess,
and they bring around the stadium.
You won prom king, that's very different
than winning a private tour in.
Was it the prom king?
Yeah, there's a prom king and queen.
That's old school.
So because I won that, my football coach is,
you gotta go to prom, so I went to the prom.
Oh, God, maybe like the yearbook stuff. So because I won that my football coach is you got to go to prom so I went to the prom
God maybe like the yearbook staff I went with this with this girl named Jasmine. They called they called their mini mini. Yeah, now you got me
Me you got missy you went from mini to missy good job
I worry I wore white tux with those fish tails. You know the fish tails. Oh my god
You're such a cat What a top hat? Guido.
Red, red bow tie.
I had a cane and white gloves on.
And over my gloves, I used to wear pinky rings and rings because it was Guido days.
You know, with the gold chains.
So I had my gold chains out and I had my white gloves on with the finger with the rings
over the white gloves.
Oh my God.
Oh my God, you were such a little guido.
You had hair, lots of curly hair on your head at the time.
I think I've seen you in prom pictures once.
You really do.
It's weird because your face, when you were younger,
looks like G-no.
But like, no, your body is Joey.
Your face is G-no.
Oh, come on, I got pictures right out show you like
Your face are yelling in a background. Yeah, the kids are yelling. We're home doing this. We're home today guys
You're too loud the people on the podcast are gonna hear you come say hi
I want to say hello
Tonya come here. Let's talk about prom
Come here Tonya tell us what amazing day you had.
Come on, let's talk about University of Delaware.
Tonya.
She's now their quiet.
Oh, she's gone.
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Anyway, today, sometimes we're recording my studio, but today we're recording in the
house. Whenever I'm recording with Joe, it's kind of easier to just bring this stuff home
and do it from home because we like eat dinner, we put our sweats on, we usually do it late night and then
we like head to the couch after this and watch.
Look at the dog, look at the dog, he's lifting his leg, trying to pee, he's got a diaper,
we got a dog with a diaper on, he's trying to pee.
Yeah, we do, we literally have a dog that I put a diaper on.
No, no, he got it.
He lifts his leg and pee still with the diaper on.
If you guys could see this visual
You know he's been on the house vibes
He's been on the show a bunch of times
But I he was never wearing diapers prior to us living in this house because we moved him into this house
And he just decided he likes white and he wants to pee on every single thing
That's white because this is a very white house and he just lifts his legs
So now he wears a diaper I feel almost. I'm gonna start lifting my leg too,
because you make me nuts with this house.
Oh my God, guys, if you only know,
if you follow me on Instagram,
you know that we've been doing the landscaping thing.
And it is,
I've been doing the landscape.
You don't know what you're doing.
And it's guys,
let me explain something about this one.
Let me explain something about this one.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
because you're driving. We're about what?
Would you say seven days away from completing our house,
our outside of our house?
About seven more days will be pretty much be done.
Maybe like seven to 10 days.
Seven to 10 days, not worth it.
Yeah, and we're all, well, yeah, because I gave him,
I gave him pressure.
We're doing prom pics for Antonia's school here. So that was
a deadline for him to make sure that it gets done. So I was like, Joe, here's the data
the prom. Here's the data the prom picks. House has to be done. I volunteer to do the prom
picks here. I'm getting food trucks and candy trucks and the house has to be done. And
he promised. So there's that. Well, we have the sod coming and we have to get it down on one day and you're
going to be out there. No, I'm not. That's not my thing.
We need our wash the dishes. My sons are going to be out there. My daughter is going to
be out there. You're going to be, I see we do it ourselves. I keep this family humble.
We need to stay humble and working hard for me get my hands dirty Being in the mud and the dirt keeps me humble. I love it. So that's what we're gonna do as a family
We're laying about
65 palates of sod
We are
Yes, we are
Melissa go will not be laying sod on Saturday because I
Why don't you have to do the laundry? Why don't you have to do the dishes? Why don't you make a
Stinner? Because I do make dinner. I make dinner. I made you dinner last night. Can we talk about the beautiful landscaping for a second?
Oh, forget about the landscape. We have been arguing guys over landscaping like you wouldn't believe. I never knew. First of all,
first of all, Joe was a landscaper and he's anyone doesn't know this. He was a landscaper before he was a developer
Right, so that was his thing. He did landscaping. He used to cut the grass
He used to do plantings. He used to do retaining walls waterfalls. You name it
I mean right now we're putting in a pool in the backyard shout out to the pool boss
He is the best our pool is almost done. We have fire pots and we have
Waterfalls back there. We have pool loungers.
I'm very excited.
I don't know when we're gonna use the Shore House anymore
because we're gonna wanna be here all the time too.
But shout out to the pool boss
because I also put him on a very strict time limit
and he's also invited.
Yeah, but you don't get involved with him.
You get involved the main.
She just drives you.
I'm so nice to him to you.
I scream him a new asshole.
Every single thing. No, and you know me and the
pool boss were talking because he's going through
renovations in his house. He goes, I've been doing shit
three times. I go, no, I go me too. I go, she tells me
pop the plant here. I want, I want, I want to see
edges. He doesn't understand. There's a new way. My
house. I want boxwoods in the front of the house
I said no, we should put private privacy trees up. I mean everybody drives by our home
We need to be private she goes no no no no no. I want boxwoods
Yeah, and she drives me to a house. She's like I want this I put the boxwoods up. I put the trees up
Right she sits on the front porch. She looks after I'm done
Now mind you I did those that job I did that three months ago. She sits on the front porch yesterday and she goes
We can't have this I need privacy. She goes take them all out and put privacy trees
I go are you nuts?
Absolutely not.
The sprinkler systems run on the roll these,
the controllers roll over there.
She's like, I don't, she's like, take them out.
Then we go to the nursery, she's like,
pick these arborivities.
Arborivities, the deer eat the arborivities.
She goes, no, no, no, no, I want arborivities.
I want this to look like LA.
I want arborivities.
I go, you can't have arborivities.
I said, Google it. The bears are standing standing we are standing in a nursery googling I'm like hey
Siri do the deer eat our provide is what the what the cherry tell you that's
their absolute favorite food in the world they devour them you listen to that
word devour and she I want them I want them. I want them. I want them.
I want them.
I don't want the Christmas trees.
You know what they do in New Jersey because we have to have, I don't know some people
who you guys that live out there in Texas or California or whatever.
New Jersey is like deer everywhere.
There's just deer galloping on our front yards at any given moment.
We have deer.
Remember the one time.
I'll never forget.
I think it was like an Uber driver dropping us off from New York City and there was just two our street and all the sun and his big dear a buck
Well big bucks hops and fire that guy goes holy fuck
Holy shit, it's a reindeer
Yeah, yeah, it's over slams on his brakes like he saw God
I got that's what he said it's a reindeer
It's a reindeer
We were laughing it like we we chased them off our lawn all day long because all they do is eat my
Hydrangeas, which is another favorite food. So basically all I asked for was Joe to figure out landscaping with boxwoods
Hydrangeas and guys I got her to high-drages got to want to hear her mouth that dear eight of more
I would like I'm gonna take a picture and show you. I put on Instagram.
It's like this big.
Eat all the high-drages.
Thousands of dollars down the drain.
The Arbivitis eating the Arbivitis.
I have to interrupt.
This is the funniest shit.
My sister is texting me right now
because guys, we're recording this.
It's Tuesday night and the reunion, I guess.
The second part of the reunion is airing right now.
So everyone, my group text is hysterical laughing
and my sister just rang my phone and I text her back
and I'm like, what's going on?
Why are you calling me?
I'm in the middle of a podcast and she goes,
she goes, no, I just wanted to give you the non-mistakes
so you can stick it up your asshole.
Oh my God, guys, was guys, that is so funny,
because of what I said tonight on that.
I go, I'm looking for the Namaste,
and if I find the Namaste,
I'm gonna stick it right up my asshole.
Oh yeah, I have to say, you know, you absolutely.
You just killed it, you were funny, you were just,
you were great.
And you know what, what, what, I'm just proud of you were funny you were just you were great and you know what what what
I'm just proud of you as just a person that you got somebody like attacking you and
Your calmness and the way you can handle yourself was was I look up to you man I was great. No really I cuz I think yeah, it's not easy. I would have like fuck you
You know, I don't I know you would have God
We know I will because I you know, it's hard to win
And the next episode that comes out I mean actually we haven't seen the third episode yet guys
So that'll be out next week. So that's when the men come out
But yeah, it wasn't easy and listen
You know what when you're sitting there and you don't have a million different stories that you're trying to remember
I just knew that I was going to say the truth and
The facts I didn't have nerves that day, right? And I know that you know your sister whatever sat down and she was like feel my heart and she was
Very up-tack. She was so angry and she was so mad at right. She was going and going and going and her nerves. It was very clear that she had a lot of lines
and a lot of things to remember and a lot of,
she was there on a mission, right?
So she had a lot of stress that day.
She looked very like all over the place in her head
and I just didn't feel that way.
I just felt very calm, very ready,
very excited
to face everything head on and be able to finally
have a conversation face to face.
I know you and I and all of my guests really,
we've been talking on this podcast for months
about how there's so much chatter going on
on social media behind the scenes,
so many things that are on true about me, writing
about me, accusations, the truth is going to set everybody free.
This reunion was going to be vindicating for the other side.
I was just very happy that none of that was true.
And I was waiting for the moment that I could sit face to face where there is no lying,
right?
You do get caught in your lies.
You do have to talk facts.
You can't have other people do your dirty work.
You do have to talk and answer the questions that Andy asks, right?
And I was very calm and very happy to sit there and just get it off my chest.
And obviously, you know, it wasn't easy.
Listen, when someone's biting at your neck
for 10 hours, like a bulldog, trying to pull blood,
trying to crack you, trying to make you break,
it was obviously very sad, right?
Because at the end of the day, this is a family.
And sometimes I'm taking myself out of the family aspect
for a minute and just talking about human to human
Having someone try to rip your neck off and get blood, right? And it's
It's not easy. It's rough. Hold that thought when when when I was back there the guys are back there and we we sit and watch as
We're filming backstage and we're hanging out. We're having a drink and I at one point was watching and
I got so emotional because I've
watched the way my sister reacted and
She was just being so mean which they cut a lot of that part out and she was just being so nasty that it made me
It made me upset And I started crying.
I was emotional backstage because I was so embarrassed for her and embarrassed for the
whole situation.
And then when I got out and I was on that stage and I was on that platform, all that went
away.
It just went away because I was listening to somebody trying to hurt me
my own family and just trying to put me down and trying to just doesn't want
any good for me and just constantly says nasty things so just start going away
like all that love and that hurtful I just sat there and numb. I was like, okay.
I remember at one point I came back to say,
hi to you for the 30 minute break that we got.
You were just like staring at the wall.
Like you were in shock because you guys got
to watch the monitors from behind the scene.
And I think you were like, you look stunned.
I was crying, I was upset.
And between you, because I was embarrassed for her.
And I was just embarrassed in the whole situation.
I'm like, my God, why do you have to be so mean and evil?
Like, what are we doing here?
It's not that bad.
You know, what is going on?
Well, the thing is we're the ones who actually,
we've been shinnon.
We were the ones that we were very upset that,
that, that, that, and you know, she kept trying to make
it sound as if can you just clarify this because she kept trying to make it sound like it
was only Louis who called you to the house to sit you and talk.
I mean, is that your side of story?
Because I that's not what you said.
No, it was, you know, obviously, it was both of them, but, but the situation was we were
the ones saying you sat down at a counter
With both of them both and they were both giving you the story like she was giving you what she heard and he was giving
I'm blaming listen she blames everything on everybody and everyone knows that so once you say
I'm saying that it's you know, it's hard to she was there
She was very lucky she gets very lucky
I've never seen more people and this is where you can like take your hat off to very lucky. I've never seen more people. And this is where you can like take your hat off to Teresa. I guess I've never seen more people in my life
do someone else's dirty work like multiple people for so many years. Like if you pay attention
to her, Jen, Jen's her little puppet. Well, yeah, but not only that if you, right, like if you,
and this was very shocking in this episode that aired this week.
Literally Danielle goes into the back room and looks at her husband, basically tells
her husband they set me up.
She realizes that she got set up, which is very eye-opening for her.
I don't get why she's, I still see them hanging out together, maybe.
She doesn't care that she got used or set up, that's on her.
I know it would bother me a lot, but she did say that. So at least she does recognize that that
did happen to her because it was all pre-set. We all had the conversations already. It was
known already that they were not going to bring this to camera. It wasn't like a secret
thing. And that's why I got so frustrated with your sister because I was like, wait a second. You guys purposely tried to say this on TV.
So I look bad and to embarrass me and that and I'm pissed. Now I'm going to say why I'm
really pissed, right? So it's just, it's crazy to me how many people and if you watch the
season, literally she doesn't talk at all. Like she doesn't do much. It's like, she
sits there. Louis, her ex has been used to.
And now Louis says all of the bad stuff.
And she just sits there and nods her head, right?
Or it's Jennate.
And she sits there and nods her head.
Before it was Penny, or it was this one, or it was that one.
It was, I've never seen a person, or it was Kim D, you know?
Like, I've never seen a person get so many people
to just do her dirty work.
Like, what do they think they're getting out of it? Is what I'll never seen a person get so many people to just do her dirty work. Like what do they think they're getting out of it?
Is what I'll never understand.
Like a fool, sorry.
What is she doing for them that makes them say,
I mean, I get it from her husband and her ex-husband.
Like, I get it.
I get they want to help her out.
They want to do it for her fine.
But like the strangers, I don't get it.
And it's like even on the house.
So I was like, Lou, you do.
You already look like a moron pajama boy. You might as well keep doing it. And it's like even on the house, so I was like, he's like, Lou, are you doing,
you already look like a moron pajama boy?
He might as well keep doing it.
At this point, I mean, really,
I mean, the guys are clown, I'm sorry, he's a clown.
Yeah, I mean, they just,
but he is, I'm sorry.
Yeah, well, I'm sorry.
I mean, the Bo Dito thing, he completely,
you know, the whole, he's,
well, the Bo Dito thing,
and then he, the nice thing is,
so Dingo's all over.
He says it, he demands it into episodes, and he takes it back then he said I'm sorry. I don't I didn't do it
I mean people are after us. I mean it's just
Because we got it. Well, then for deal does this whole thing on Instagram saying I have nothing to do with him
He did not hire me then another article comes out with Bodito admitting
with his ex, with Louis ex, right?
There's a new article that he did do it.
It's just, it's a lot.
And then Bodito's advertising his business at the same time.
It's like a reunion night.
On the reunion night, his post comes out on that reunion night.
So it's like, come on man, it's a big fucking
game. It's it's seriously, it's like a circus. It's literally a circus.
I don't want to blame everybody else. Oh my God, you put us in prison really? I mean,
what do you call? I don't even know who to call. What do you call the 1-800 FBI call?
I don't even, where's the number? No,? No, it's a circus. It's a circus.
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Anyway, I mean, we could go on and on and on with all of that.
It's just, it's crazy.
The reunion had a lot of moments, but yeah,
I, you know, it's funny.
You say that that I was, I don't even remember saying
half of the things that I said, like even like when I
rewatched the reunion with everyone, I'm like, oh, I don't remember
saying that, you know, that I know you hate me, just try to control yourself, which by the
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So I had to make them.
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What about my saying, release the poison that came out.
That's been a hit.
Oh my God.
No one is wearing a shirt. Do you know what that means? No one is wearing that on their I had oh my god. Oh my god. No one is wearing a shirt
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There's hoodie and then there's a black crew neck.
So whichever one floats your boat, what'd you think about Andy?
I know that they gave some people were giving Andy a little heat.
You know what?
I felt bad for him.
If you guys were there and watched it and it wasn't just at Teresa,
it seemed that way because she was really obviously
in a mode of like Teresa came in
like with her rehearsed lines
that I know her attorney gave her
because that's what he does.
So he gave her her like five rehearsed things
that he told her to say
and she just kept trying to resay them
and then she would think again and resay them
and anytime I would
come at Teresa and make a point, right, where I was actually making sense or you're making
a point, she would just get really loud and start yelling and screaming and try to like
sway the complex. The black thing, right, but try to like turn the conversation out of
the way. And Andy, she didn't do it once, twice, three times.
She did it for literally eight hours straight. So if you guys saw that, trust me, you're not
seeing, you're only seeing three hours of a 10 hour day. Andy did not break for a very
long time. It was like she, he did not let, she would not let anyone speak because they
were making points on Louis or having receipts.
They had a receipt or they had,
or I was saying no trees,
and this is untrue.
Say the truth, and she would just start yelling
and screaming and getting loud.
And I think, you know, she's probably letting down
a lot of her fans or all of the fans
that she's been DMing or telling,
like I'm gonna be vindicated.
This is Melissa's a liar, Melissa lied.
And then clearly they see I'm not lying about things
and then I'm coming at her with facts
and I'm telling the truth.
And you know, I feel like they are her fans blindly,
no matter what she does, will be like,
it's okay, that's not how it went.
They're like in their own world.
Is it all her fans or is it that PR Shmere team they hire?
Well, no, there's definitely her group of like 10 that they all DM each other.
They make like a little.
They denied they denied about they denied that to discuss that on the reunion.
I'm the brother man.
That's the next, that's the next episode.
That's the next reunion where we, we do ask about the PR and like how they did hire
a publicist that we all know, which is a fact,
they hired them to do like this, like a PR,
especially, you know, to not, and it's okay to hire a PR, right?
If you're gonna promote a business, but they didn't do it,
they hired them in a negative way to put out bad social
on Joe and I, and for a minute.
And Frank and Frank and Frank and Tanya and Margaret, yes.
And we do know that for a fact, and we did approach them, and you'll Frank and Tanya and Margaret yes and we do
know that for a fact and we did approach them and you'll have to watch the next
episode to see their answers and and how that went but it's crazy it's sad I
know we're talking to you about it like in a way that it's a TV show because it
is a TV show but at the end of the day this was a family and it's sad that all
of these things go on and I don't feel like there's a good enough reason. I just think at the end of the day, she will
just never forgive us for accepting, you know, the role on the Real Housewives of New Jersey.
Like we got offered a job and we took the job. And no matter what, she's just wanted it
for herself. And she'll never move on from it. And that's sad to break a whole family
over it. I mean, we've moved on for so many years. And that's sad to break a whole family over it.
I mean, we've moved on for so many years.
And you know what, the world doesn't revolve around you.
It's not all about you.
And that's that.
It's like, it's just so sad to like preach.
But we can go on and on and on, right?
About this all day long.
But those are just some of my immediate thoughts.
Also having Joe Jice, poor guy,
having Joe Judice do this podcast
to come out and try to vindicate her
in some which way, saying we put her in jail.
I mean, what the fuck?
The first of all, just like Jacqueline,
where's Jacqueline?
Jacqueline, Theresa blamed Jacqueline for,
first she blamed Caroline, then she said never, I'm sorry, she started to blame Jacqueline. We all know Jacqueline for first re-blink Caroline then she said never I'm sorry
She started to blame Jacqueline. We all know it was the ex partner
That's what everyone was saying always the ex partner basically admitted that it was him
He doesn't even care not he admits that it was him and and it's like now she's on to it was us because Jacqueline told her it was us
But guys like Jacqueline knows oh
My god the text that Jacqueline writes about Teresa it was us. But guys, like Jacqueline knows who's Jack. Oh my God. The text that Jacqueline writes
about Teresa, it was like literally only within a year of saying all this is insanity.
And I saw Joe about five, six months ago, we hugged it out and it was awesome. It was great.
And it's poor guy. She probably called you got to do this podcast, Joe. You got to do this
picture. Sure. She made him. So the poor guy went out there. He's out there. He's ready
struggling out there, trying to live a life. He's not with his family.
Leave the guy alone. Now he's gonna come up to. Yeah.
We spoke to somebody. I know somebody in the FBI.
Oh, what? Come on.
Wait, and he also, you know, he said a couple other stupid things on that
podcast. It did him no favors, but I don't get why I just don't get it.
I don't get why they're pushing. A talk about the FBI or the FBI is gonna talk about like who would know
that anyone. It's funny that you can we can we can make this a cartoon. Well,
they do they do they have some they do make friends. They make you guys the
Flintstone sometimes. You guys you too. Me too. I think I'm Wilma.
I think I'm Wilma.
I'm born in Youngmorenie.
But it's kind of funny, like, as if anybody would ever.
First of all, I think on the podcast, the guy says to him, like, well, where was Melissa?
Where was Melissa when this was happening, meaning, like, you were calling the feds on your
sister?
You know, I wanted to interrupt him, be like like I was burping a baby. I was definitely home
burping Gina like what
Watch these people are out of their mind and the people who interview them are even funny
Because you're like used to line up to say hello and take a picture
I have so many texts and shit and you want to act like what the clear was Melissa
I was home giving
a freaking joley a bottle that's where I was
well you guys are making up these stupid
ass stories I mean really honestly to call
some to call the feds on somebody you got
to know their inside stuff everything
they're doing I wasn't even around this
guy I don't even know what they were
talking we I never even saw them for
years I mean it was only when they were filming and that's it like how do I know what they were writing or signing or doing or I wasn't doing business with him
You know, I mean it's ridiculous you can't just call a 100 FBI. How are you? I got some information on
John Smith here this guy, I think he does this.
Hang up on you, pink, we're so busy.
No, you better give these guys facts.
Everything, you better bring a dirt,
have the exact paperwork.
Who the hell knows what you have to have?
But I would even, regardless of you
or my worst, worst enemy, I could never do that.
Do you know I don't even write a bad comment
on a social media?
I've never wrote a bad comment.
Even if I hate you, I'd never have done that
ever in my life and I'm gonna go call somebody in an informant.
I mean, are you sick?
Really?
Never.
I mean, I call somebody.
I can never, nobody's funny.
It's just, I've got to touch on it. It's like, oh, boy, but somebody. I can never. No, but it's funny. It's just, I got to touch on it.
It's like, oh, sorry.
But why would nobody in the right mind
think that that's your like-
I'll put this in my comedy act.
What do you think we were doing,
peeling garlic with the good fellows?
Why, and no one in the right mind
thinks that Caroline Manzo would do that either.
I mean, come on.
And then, and then-
What about, and then what about Jacqueline?
It's like, it's like a new joke. It's like a joke. no wait and then they were trying to twist like I spoke to Caroline you spoke to
Conn Caroline manzo by the way they were trying to twist what she said at page six that she was in the room and to be honest
That was actually shocking to me too that she said she was in the room because I didn't know that's like new information to me
But it was actually shocking to me because
People tried to say she's saying it's Melissa shocking to me because people tried to say,
she's saying it's Melissa and Joe.
Mimal Lauren Manzo came out and wrote right on somebody's, like we are not saying, right
on someone it's TikTok.
We are not saying it was Melissa and Joe.
Like we're literally just saying we might, we know who it was, but it's not Melissa and
Joe.
But then for a week straight, she's saying it was, it was these people.
This is like insanity.
Yeah, let's, let's, let's move on.
Let's move on.
Hold on.
Can we pause?
I really have to go the bathroom.
Like, I can't not go holy shit.
This girl.
Sorry.
I have to go so bad.
I knew what?
Oh, what about that Dolores?
Dolores looks at me and I didn't even realize this because I would have answered her guys to be honest, but she said to me at the reunion to sleep with one eye open.
I didn't catch that one.
Well, you know why?
You weren't out there, but she said it on this reunion.
She's like, oh, this is not good for you Melissa sleep with one eye open.
A lot of people were concerned with her and like what she was talking about.
She was referring to Jacqueline. So she was referring to the fact that like Jacqueline's crazy and
like, oh, sleep with one eye open because now Jacqueline's going to make 15 fake accounts
to attack you all day and she's going to spend the time to do it. That's exactly what
kids waste your time. Go ahead. I know. We read it and push it all the same time. It's
like wasting they waste their energy
people. I mean really it's just a waste a waste.
But that's basically what Dolores was talking about because a lot of you were like, oh, why
is and the truth is if I would have heard her said that I would have looked at her and said,
I'm not scared of anyone. I'm speaking my truth today. So that's that. And she was not saying
that towards me. She was kind of saying it like,
woof, be very afraid because Shacklin's coming for you.
I mean, it's a shame because we were nice to Jack.
We have, we've never argued that you're...
Do you know I've never had a fight with Jacqueline?
The only fight I've ever had with her is what you saw
on the show and when she was like mad that me and Teresa made up
and everyone keeps trying to say it's opposite
that I was mad that her and Teresa were making,
I could care less about their friendship.
They had a friendship before they even knew Jacqueline.
Like I could care less.
It wasn't like, I'm gonna say shame on her
because we were always nice to her.
When I was good to her kids.
Yes, we were.
And I loved her and I loved her kids.
And I don't get it.
I don't get what she's doing.
And if she wants to be that way, that's fine.
But I, listen, I hope she listens to this shame on you
because we always respected you
and her husband and her kids.
And I never turned on her.
No matter what.
So I know she thought that I was turning out,
she said something on a podcast somewhere
like I didn't confess.
There's a lot of things.
There's a lot of things she's talking about.
But whatever she was saying, and I said to myself,
oh, that's what she's meant to, like I don't know. It was, but whatever she was saying, and I said to myself, oh, that's what she's meant.
I don't even, I don't even mean it.
It was just like a misunderstanding.
Like, I don't even know why Jack was that mad.
But whatever, I do wish Jacqueline and her whole family,
like health and happiness somewhere.
I don't get why she's crawling out of this hole
and wanting to, I mean, she knows better than this.
I'm in shock with her.
She knows there's nothing more stressful than dealing with this show and she hated it and used to pull her hair out and
worked overtime and the fact that she's getting herself involved in it for no money. When no one's
even trying to hurt her or attack her, I baffled that why she would even waste her time. Like, I'm
sure she has better things to do.
Like, it's baffling to me, but to each their own,
if this is how she wants to spend her days,
like, now she'll want to defend this and that.
And she was now brought up at the reunion.
If I were her, I'd want to be in peace somewhere
with my children not being brought up
at the Real Housewives of New Jersey
when you're not being paid for it.
And you're really not friends with Teresa.
I don't give a shit. There is no way that
Text like that gets sent to Jackie Goldschneider and Jackie go ahead, you know forward them to me
I've had them for a while. I've had no no that was hilarious
That was sad. He didn't even read first of all he didn't even read the worst ones on air
There's pictures of Jacqueline sending Jacqueline,
Jacqueline sending Jacquie,
of Teresa getting flushed down a toilet bowl,
her head spinning, and like the ugly,
like the worst picture of Teresa,
you could possibly find in the universe,
is the pictures that Jacqueline Loretta was texting her.
And calling her names that you wouldn't even,
like I would never even think to call someone.
It was beyond hate. It was beyond hate. And that's who my sister-in-law is, And calling her names that you wouldn't even like I would never even think to call someone it was
You can't hate it was beyond hate and that's who my sister-in-law is deciding to believe and throw in my face And I was not trying to be hurtful or petty at that point actually when I had every right to be honestly to Teresa
I was trying to prove a point. I was trying to be like listen
That's whose word you're gonna take like this huge subject of you who put you in jail. I'm like, this is the woman that you're
going to take. It's her word over ours. She forgives everyone Theresa except for us. Meanwhile,
like, the things that her ex said to her, the things that Jacqueline has done to her. Jacqueline
has tried to like ruin her, basically called her out saying that she was the one that said I was trying it like that I was a stripper.
Jacqueline ripped her to asshole for the last like two seasons she was on the show, but
Teresa is cool with her, but hates me and you.
It's like baffling.
Yeah.
Well, I don't get it.
But Jacqueline became the pope because it's so credible.
It's no.
No, no.
That's like the pope.
Say it, tell me.
Jacqueline said she was going to go against me. So now Jacqueline's no. We don't have it. That's like the Pope. Say it, tell me. Jaclyn, Jaclyn said she was going to go against me.
So now Jaclyn's winning.
It's like, it's like, so it's such an easy formula.
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We got about that. Let's talk about the serious stuff.
What's serious?
That, hello Margaret's son.
Yeah, guys, this was scary.
This is scary and this is a real thing.
And I think you'll hear more about this the next episode because the guys come out and,
but yes, Margaret's son was called and it was threatened by Louis at work.
And then the crazy part about this is that Louis, Margaret's son doesn't film on the show.
He doesn't want to be on the show.
He wants nothing to do with the show.
It's the oddest child to go after
because no one even knows him.
He doesn't care.
He's not a drama boy, right?
So it's like the fact that Louis voice called his work,
landline. Do you understand me? his work, landline.
You understand me? It was a landline.
This was not the kid's cell phone.
It was his landline at his new very powerful.
Hello, it's such and such there.
You got to go through extension thing.
Okay, hold on, pass it to this extension.
It was how you get this guy.
It was a big financial problem.
It was a extension landline.
Okay, it was Louis voice.
It was Louis number showed up on the caller ID and the guy said what what did he say?
You did he say to the son you should be very afraid of the guy you should be a
I'm the guy you gotta be afraid so the guys on the co-edie said it's a Margaret Sun goes is this Louis
Rulis
Wait, what what kind of thing? Yeah, it got hangs up. What a fucking clown right then he hangs up on him
I mean what don't he doesn't to block your number before you threaten the child.
I mean, I'm sorry, that's so, you got him.
How dumb could you be?
Wait, and then excuse at the reunion was
all of a sudden Theresa, all of a sudden Theresa's like,
look Margaret, this just happens.
The phones call each other, which, yeah,
they call each other from numbers that are in,
we did have this happen by the way from housewives
like our phones would just start calling each other right because I guess somebody did like this phone hack where
If you you can make one phone call another phone and so like Frank a tannis phone would just start ringing Joe's phone
But no one would be there when you answered it and Frank was like like, I didn't call you. And then sometimes we would call like Joe would call Andy Cohen's phone and Joe's like, I didn't just call your phone.
Like, but it would ring. So somebody did a hack amongst the housewives. So Teresa was trying
to blame it on that saying, no, it's the hack. Meanwhile, no, this is a landline. This is not
so and no one has Margaret Sun's landline phone at his new job store. I don't know where he works.
It's only numbers that are like stored in your phone.
You know I meant that guy.
I meant her son maybe once or twice vaguely.
I met him once or twice too.
I didn't even know what he did for a living.
Now I know.
It doesn't matter.
The point is, the point is it's not this is not.
Margaret Sun is not someone who would make this up.
He's not a drama kid.
He's not one of the ones who are on our show,
diled up in confessionals, talking shit. He is not this up. He's not a drama kid. He's not one of the ones who are on our show, diled up in confessionals, talking shit. He is not this kid. He doesn't even want anything
to do with the show. So the fact that he was called is bonkers to me and very scary. And
we're going to leave it at that because you're going to have to see the rest of that in
the next.
Let me tell you something. If he called my son'd be over. Yeah, I'm not that guy. No, it was literally a man
threatening a kid at work. Come on guys. Come on. This is like, oh, you're doing what you think this is,
what do you think this is good fellow? It's scary. Whatever it is guys, it's wrong on so many levels and
we're joking it. We're joking about it right now, but it's actually a pretty serious thing. And if you were Margaret, you would be livid.
And this isn't, it's a crazy thing.
And it's out of our hands when people do this.
Of course, it's, you know, being denied.
And all of a sudden, the best part was, then all of a sudden, I don't know where, trees
is like, look, my phone's calling your phone right now, Margaret.
My phone's calling your phone right now, Margaret. My phone's calling your phone because they had the hack and she had, you know,
her people making it go on.
That's why I kept texting at the reunion to like tell, give people clues of what to
do.
She told, gee, I went to call in.
She told, joe jude, I just went to call in.
It was so, it was the most rehearsed in a bad way reunion. I've ever seen
Teresa do in my life. It was so pre-planned that it was, it was hard to watch.
Let's see what it was hard to watch her try to get through it on her own without all of
her people who were on the other ends planning it with her. It was like cringe to watch.
But that's where I get upset with my sister
because do not defend something that's bad.
You're defending something that's really not right.
Right, just ignore it and don't say anything.
You're defending this guy, threatening someone's son.
Right, and that's where she is.
Shut the hell up, you're killing yourself.
Sorry.
Yeah, that's not who she is.
I don't know what she's thinking. What are you doing? I don't but
We're gonna let you guys watch the end the third part of the reunion and you guys you guys can make your own assumptions on that
We're just telling you you know what we know. It's really crazy
There's so many like highs and lows from the reunion there. I actually thought that the second one was funny.
And a lot of ways, there was some funny parts in it.
The new girls arguing, I feel like everybody just
wants to see them get along.
We thought the argument was kind of silly
and doesn't make sense.
It seemed like Danielle was reaching to argue with Rachel
and Rachel just wasn't, it just seems like they don't
need to argue.
This isn't the big enough argument for them.
I would like to see them get along.
But we do want to say thank you guys for all the support
that you've got, that we've gotten through all of this
because we do read your messages and we do see what the fans
are saying.
And, you know, I have never seen more support
ever on my 13 years of being on house.
I've got so many DMs and it was so beautiful.
So thank you.
Thank you.
It was really nice.
Yeah, it means a lot.
And it's just, it's very, very sweet and kind.
And we do read them.
So know that we do, we do read them.
And we appreciate you.
And you know what, at the end of the day, it's about truth.
And that's what the reunions are about.
Listen, we had a lot of hard questions too that we had to answer, right?
So it is what it is.
I hope that you guys enjoy the next episode of the reunion.
I haven't seen it yet.
It's when the men come out.
I'm assuming it's a doozy.
But this is all our truth on how we feel about it.
So we're going to get back to our lands keeping
and getting ready for Antonia's next prom
and just getting this house done.
By the way, the house looks amazing.
It's really looking great.
I know a lot of you wanna know the deal with the house
and why I know I touched on it.
I just wanna put this in here real quick
so I can give you a little story behind the house. I know I said it on the reunion with Andy
But I'm gonna say it again for all of you that are curious and wondering when we first got our plans to the house
it was during COVID and
We weren't happy with what our our first architected and we had to submit the plans
We had to get out of the rental it They were close to what we wanted, but not perfected.
So we submitted them.
We got into the house for all of you that are asking.
We then went to a new architect, plan architecture, by the way,
that I apt-danned from plan architecture, shout out.
Love you.
You are the absolute best of the best.
He gave us a new plan with what we were working with and what I wanted.
And it's coming out absolutely beautiful. It's way more of what I wanted. And I can't wait to show you guys because why not?
I'm here for all of your hate and your love and everything else that you guys are going to say. But like I I really love it.
You don't know one can say anything because what happened through COVID was
Has never happened before and trying to build through COVID Torture unbelievable. We could even get half the material that we wanted to get the material
Everything and trying to deal with the building department. So at that point we just had to get done and get in and
Luckily, I do this for a living. So I said no, where better? Let's get it done and then we'll change it and that's what we're doing
Right, right So we just we extended our front porch. I said, I wanted a big front porch,
because I'd like to sit with my coffee out on my porch in the morning. We got the front porch.
Now there was a couple things that we changed with, you know, just not crazy. And we weren't we
didn't do the backyard at all. So now we're doing the backyard. It's not a crazy change, but it is
enough to make it like, wow, that's exactly what I was going for.
So I'm excited about it and that's what we did. We did a little, you know, we did tweaking because we just could not do it and wait a whole
Another year to submit plans. We rather lived here during it. So that's that's the story for all of you that are asking.
I love you guys so much. Thank you so much for listening to on display. Make sure you guys all head over to envybymg.com.
Those sweatshirts are moving quickly,
and they are so cute.
Joe, thank you for chatting with me tonight.
There's some pleasure, honey.
Oh, we just put it.
So we go eat more stela dora and have some chamomile.
We're going to have some chamomile.
Let's go do what we got to do.
All right, guys, we love you.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Joe, for coming on display today.
Welcome, baby. I appreciate you. I do it all landscape.
Cook.
Yeah, okay.
Podcast. Okay. Clean the house.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. You're a good co-host. Thank you so much.
We love you guys and just remember, always speak the truth even if your voice shakes.
Ciao.
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