On Display with Melissa Gorga - REWIND: Fit(ness) for a Housewife (w/ Jillian Michaels)

Episode Date: November 2, 2023

Melissa is joined by celebrity trainer and nutrition guru, Jillian Michaels, to break down Melissa's wellness routine, settle the debate of crunches vs planks, and discuss the one thing we should never put in our morning coffee. Orignal Airdate: October 13 2022 This week's sponsors: Uncommon Goods - Get 15% off your next gift at UncommonGoods.com/melissa  Progressive Insurance - "Name Your Price Tool": Progressive.com 

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from every franchise come together, it's chaotic and crazy and we're gonna have fun. I have some dinners plans. I'm gonna have dinner with Erin from New York who is on next week's podcast. So make sure you guys do not miss that. That's gonna be a fun one. And just Bravo Con in general, meeting the fans, getting to see you all, giving you all hugs in person. There is like

nothing like it. So I cannot wait to meet each and every one of you. So what I decided to do for this episode, we're gonna call it a rewind episode week because this episode was so real. It was so informative. It was so helpful, and you guys actually loved it. It's definitely one of your favorites. Jillian Michaels came on my podcast a while back, and we had such a great conversation where we talked about diet, healthy eating, exercise, you name it, food diet, everything that I do wrong.

Also, so many of my unhealthy habits, she kind of was like checking me, she was laughing at me. I feel like she was laughing at me the whole entire episode and I get so many people in my DMs that constantly reference this episode, especially when it comes to coffee. So pay attention to that part with coffee and the coffee creamers. You know, she explains a difference between organic, not organic, and you know, the holidays are right around the corner. So I do think it's important for us all just to get some really great tips. Okay. So I don't know if you've listened already, but if you haven't, make sure you guys check it out and listen to it again right now. Just, you know, so you can keep in touch with everything she said.

Keep it fresh and everyone's head. Mine included because I really, really loved this podcast. So here she is, Ms. Jillian Michaels giving us her expertise on all things personal wellness. Enjoy. enjoy. All right, everyone, I'm actually so excited because I have been waiting for this. She is one of the biggest names in fitness. She's a personal trainer, a successful business woman, and you've seen her all over television. Ladies and gentlemen, I have Ms. Jillian Michaels today. Hi.

Hey, how are you? Good. I am so excited to have you. And let me tell you why, because every, I get so many DMs and questions constantly for me to talk about, so I ask my listeners all the time, what do you want me to talk about? What do you want to discuss? Everyone wants to discuss fitness with me and with my personal

journey and how I've had three kids, what I do, what I eat, and I have been waiting for the right person to come on so we can talk fitness together. And I am so excited that I got the best of the best with me today. Look, I'm going to be honest, having had three kids and looking as superb as you do is not difficult. So not that there's a not that, not that you cannot look absolutely amazing, but it's, it's not uncommon to struggle with it and there's nothing wrong with that. But I'm not surprised that people are wondering like how you've done it because it's, you know, it's yeah, I feel like I get so many

questions all the time about like fitness and exercise. You have, I mean, you were on the biggest loser, right? For so many years, you right, you've done so many things. Are you still like, what are you doing right now with fitness? And I know that you have this amazing app out right now, the fitness app, right? Right. That's like getting one 800 massage, by the way, like whoever owns the fitness app,

that's the score right there. All about that simple sexy promise. The fitness app says it all like use the SAP. It'll help you get fit. We're big on that at my company and powered media. So we do have a fitness app with a host of great trainers that customize his workouts for you in the gym outside audio only. All different types of workouts from weightlifting, boxing, yoga, personalized meal plans, meditation, sleep support, community. So we really tried to just take the 10 apps that you have on your phone from like the meal tracker,

the yoga app, the running app, and just make it one app, real simple and straightforward. So yes, we have that. And I think I believe you were kind enough to let us give your listeners a huge discount. So if you guys go to jillianmickels.com, slash on display, you can enter the code on display and you can get a year long membership for $6,999.

So thank you so much for allowing us to do that. Thank you for gifting us that. I'm gonna to make you tell us that all again at the end case anyone forgets that. But thank you so much for giving my listeners that I appreciate it. And it sounds absolutely amazing because there are so many different apps that people use. Like there's like what what time do you eat at the fasting? There's this. There's that. There's so many different things, right? We're easy, I know. You really shouldn't have that. It's totally unnecessary. It should really be a one-stop shop where all your needs are on one platform, and that platform syncs with other apps. So for example, the fitness app syncs with everything from my fitness

pile to Apple Health. And Strava app, Other work out apps are to get logged, everything that you're doing in one place to make it as simple as possible because at the end of the day, be fit and being healthy isn't necessarily easy and it does require some sacrifice, some work, right? But it's really worth it. You still wanna make it as simple and accessible

for people as possible. Right. Right. And I think a lot of people struggle. What is your advice for people who are just getting into it? Like they just want to start working out. They're really, it's not in them. It's not who they are. They're really going to enjoy it. Because I personally enjoy it. And I'm actually going to tell you what I do. And I would love for you just because, you know, my listener has been asking. And I'd love for you to tell me what I'm doing right and what I'm doing wrong as well. I feel like who better than this is like a personal training session. Don't be jealous everyone. I have Jillian Michaels just telling me what to do out there in the gym, which I'm so excited about this. Okay, so let me tell you what I do.

Okay, I'm ready. And tell me if I'm so excited about this. Okay, so let me tell you what I do. Okay. Okay, I'm ready. And tell me if I'm right or wrong. So I'm not, I'm not a really, I'm not a really heavy eater, but I do eat, like, so I eat on the weekend. So let me give you, for instance, like Monday, Tuesday, Monday through Thursday, okay.

Monday through Thursday for me, a cup of coffee in the morning. That's just how I start my whole entire life. Do you put anything in it? Just out of curiosity. Yeah, so this is where I, I, the creamer, the French vanilla creamer that they say kills you, that's me,

I put it in my coffee. Okay, so the first thing I want you to do is switch that out and this is gonna sound kind of surprising. But you can use something like organic, heavy whipping cream. And the reason people are gonna, it sounds totally counterintuitive because it is high in calories. I'm generally going to use like a tablespoon of it.

And the reason is because it'll give it that really nice creamy texture and creamy flavor, but it has no protein and it has no carbohydrates. So what it's allowing you to do is something called a dirty fast. So I'm sure you're going to ask me about intermittent fasting or sure to come up. If you have that crappy creamer, you're blowing it. So over it's done. So you can cheat that dirty fast out with just fat. That's why some people use MCT oil and medium-chain fatty acids, coconut oil.

I like the taste of it. That's why I go with organic heavy whipping cream because I just, I think it tastes gross in my coffee. And that will allow you to cheat out a few more hours without triggering, I don't want to get too technical for you, but when you eat carbs or protein, it shuts down a process called autophagy. And that's exactly what you're fasting. It's basically where your body breaks down dead and synes and tissues. So this is a great thing. You can cheat it out, but fat only. And so I like organic heavy whipping cream because it tastes better to me than other forms of fat. Not because it's the best

form, just because it makes the coffee taste better. Now does that have dairy in it? One of the reasons I use the best form, just because it makes the coffee taste better. Now, does that have dairy in it? One of the reasons I use the French vanilla crevres because they have no dairy. So what do I do? You don't do dairy because it bothers me. It bothers my stomach. I can feel it through my soul. Like I go for almond milk when I get it.

So wait, hold on. Okay. I'm not going to push you. If it's like a spiritual thing, like I go into, but I'll eat cheese. So if you're, so if there's like mozzarella out, I'm going to push you if it's like a spiritual thing. Like I'm going to, but I'll eat cheese. So if you're, so if there's like mozzarella out, I'm gonna eat a piece of mozzarella, but for some reason, like milk bothers me. Does that make sense?

All right, okay. If it bothers you, then I would switch to, that I would switch to like MCT oil, like a medium chain fatty acid, and, or the, what about butter? Does butter bother you? No. Not as ideal but like a grass that butter or

beef for example, that's organic, clean. Because that crap that you're taking in the morning is just so. Is it crap just be honest? It's crap. Oh my god. Read me the ingredients. Is it like the one with the artificial flavor or the artificial? Yes, artificial up the chain up the thing. 100%. I see these TikToks about like do not use these

creamers and I'm every morning. I'm like, I can't. I know. I don't know what to replace it with. And I only do it once a day. I mean, is it that bad? You're basically what you're doing is, okay, so you have coffee, when do you eat next? Okay, so I have coffee. The very rarely, sometimes I'm so hungry, I'll eat a banana. Like I'll have a banana in the morning tops. The only other thing I'll really eat in the morning

is from Starbucks. I like their little egg white, roasted pepper egg whites. They say they have like a lot of protein in them and there's a hundred and seventy calories. But I enjoy them. They're delicious. Okay, okay. I want you to think of it like this. You have to ask yourself, first of all, when I look at anybody's program, the question is what are they trying to accomplish? Right? So I've worked with people that are endurance athletes. I've worked with people that are morbidly obese. I've worked with people that are trying to beat an autoimmune condition. So it's going to change what you prescribe for them.

So to speak, they're a finished regimen, they're food. So look with anybody, I'm going to advocate few chemicals in the food as possible, as clean and organic as possible. But at the end of the day, think of it as follows, okay? Imagine your food on a scale of one to ten, one being foods that foods that prevent, slash potentially helps you mitigate your disease. And we all have seen that episode of Dr. Oz, right? It's like organic blueberries and pecans and wild salmon and kale. Like we all everybody knows what a super food is, right? And everybody knows the other side of that spectrum, which is a 10, 10 are foods that contribute to disease at a rapid pace.

And it's drive-throughs, and sodas, and fake flavors, and fake colors, and fake sugars, and fake fats, and hormones, and pestle, so shit that is not food. We all know that. I'm okay with you living, one to five. And this is where there's gray area. So a five food is a food that isn't gonna cure you and it isn't gonna kill you.

And that's things like, let's say, a perfect example of this, was a company I had invested in years and years and years ago before that were actually better options in the category, was something like pop chips. So pop chips is a processed potato chip. It's literally just potato and salt and flavor, but no MSG, no trans fats, no artificial colors, no,

so if you don't overeat it, right, it's got no nutrition, it's completely empty calories, zero, at least it doesn't have poison in it. So when I'm taking those one to five foods, my goal for people is 80 20 and that means 80% of your calories I really want to run one, two and three, right? And 20% of the calories I really run them in four and five. So it could be organic ice cream. It could be that class of wine. It could be those pop chips. It could be your Starbucks egg thingies, where I do not want you to go.

It is the overly processed, heavy chemicals, because that shit is just not food. And we can go on and on and on about the havoc it wre from genetic mutations and your Michael biome, the l doing that. I mean, I co on and on and on. Keep it more often. If that makes sense, I really don't want morning like I'm gonna just have to keep it real.

I'm gonna really stare at it tomorrow morning and think of you. So much. What do you love so much about it? It's that I need the sweetness and the coffee. So I need that. Do like an organic cube of brown sugar and a little almond milk. Since you're breaking the fast anyway. Oh, okay.

So just get like a bar of sugar and almond milk and see how it's good. A cube of organic brown sugar is 14 calories, right? You're not eating massive amounts of sugar that your body is gonna become insulin resistant. Like the tongue it happens. And if you have it, with something that has a little protein

or a little fat, it'll slow, it'll even slow down how quickly that sugar hits the bloodstream. It lowers the what's called the glycemic load. So even though a food converts to sugar very quickly in your body, sugar is going to convert to glucose very, very fast, right? That's the glycemic index. But if you combine it with protein or fat, it slows down how quickly it's going to convert. Long story short, it's 14 fringed calories, have a cube of brown sugar, organic cane sugar,

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Melissa for 15% off. Don't miss out on this limited time offer on common goods. We're all out of the ordinary. If you believe in organic, you are big on it. It is a real thing. I feel like a lot of people struggle with organic because they look at it as something that's very expensive. I get it. So, what you have to do then is work around it intelligently.

And what that means is you prioritize where you spend the dollars. So think of it like this. You've probably heard of this, the clean 15 and the dirty dozen. Have you heard about that? No, tell me. Okay. So the clean 15 are fruits and vegetables that have far less pesticide, herbicide, fungus side residue. And that's going to be things with a rung, thick skin, and plants that have natural forms of insecticide that require less spray, right? So that's when you're looking at things like an orange or a watermelon or a pineapple,

those things, same thing concept, right? Very thick, not thin skinned, hard for bugs to get to them, less spray. Conversely, if we go with the dirty dozen, you're looking at thin skin fruits and vegetables. So the blueberries, the raspberries, yes, yes. But, but wait, what about grapes? What about grapes? Talk to me about grapes.

I love grapes. They're just sugar balls. I'm not worried about that. I'm fine with you having grapes, but if you can't afford the organic ones, I want you to have the orange, the pineapple, that you see what I mean. So Google clean 15, and if you can't afford organics,

that's where you're getting the fruits and vegetables, versus the dirty dozen, which are heavily, heavily sprayed. And you might hear back in the quote, olden days, which is roughly a decade ago, you might hear back in the quote, olden days, which is roughly a decade ago. You would hear that we're financed by big food and big pharma, putting out messages saying, oh, this is all bullshit and a conventional raspberry, meaning a raspberry that isn't organic, has the same amount of vitamin C as an organic raspberry or whatever, the same micro-nutrients, vitamin

demeneral. Well, first of all, that's proven to be bull because soil for crops that are sprayed with fungicide pesticide herbicide is over-formed and depleted, which is where the plant gets its nutrients. Second of all, when a plant is forced to make its own insecticide naturally. It's developing more antioxidants and more polyphenols. So it is better for you, but more importantly, it's what you're not getting.

And when I tell you the stuff is poison, it is poison, it's designed to kill everything. Not just bugs, including all of the microbes, just bugs, including all of the microbes, millions of bugs in your body that are linked to everything from how you age, your cognitive function, your, from a vanity perspective, the health of your skin, your immunity, whether or not you get COVID, I'm not kidding,

whether or not you get long COVID, I mean, it's a big deal. So I can't say enough about how important it is I'm not kidding, whether or not you get long COVID, I mean, it's a big deal. So I can't say enough about how important it is to mitigate foods that have hormones, antibiotics, fungicides, pesticides, herbicides, and you don't need to eat, like you don't need as much meat as we're eating.

We just don't, we just don't eat less of it and put those dollars towards healthier foods. You spend it there. You don't need meat all week long. What is the worst meat to eat? Like which meat should we try to stay away from? Processed lunch meats. So like all the processed meats, those like deli slices, with the nitrates and nitrates and the colors and the fillers We find the little box of turkey that it's like in the little plastic thing and it's rolled up for you already Don't do it

Get the rotisserie chicken get the root. This is what I do I get the rotisserie chicken and I snack on that all week long and Get get that it's a wee bit of option, right? Or go to the deli and ask them if they have like organic turkey or organic chicken. Pultri is not as bad as red meat because it doesn't have the growth hormones. So, you know, ideally, ideally we would,

I'm gonna eat this, but if you're gonna put those organic dollars somewhere and make it dairy and meat. And then, because you always have the option of going with the clean 15 on fruits and vegetables and things that have far less fray and residue. Right. Okay, well, wow. You know, I'm gonna go look it up now and I have to look at the clean 15 because I need

to know all these things. I'm sure it's everything I love, like all of my berries and everything that I love. Just go work in, you have the fun. So you're telling me if I have an organic strawberry, they didn't spray it at all. Is that what you're saying? So was it then dirty? Or it's no? Okay. Not only is it not sprayed with those chemicals, right? It's better for you for the reasons I mentioned in that it has to make its own insecticide. It is grown in healthier soil because there's not chemical fertilizers in the love that you're eating that. That stuff is loaded with all kinds of awesome. Polly phenols, antioxidants, all the great things, but maybe organic or you're just,

you're essentially ingesting chemicals consistently. And I would rather you avoid it and have an orange if you can't go organic. Got it. Okay, so let me rewind back for a second. This is what I eat for breakfast, ready? Okay. The banana, the coffee, maybe an egg here or there.

Like a little, maybe. I go right to lunch. Lunch for me is usually like a salad, right? Or if I'm gonna rush one slice of pizza, if I'm gonna rush, if I'm gonna rush, there is not a good rush food out there for a nice Italian Jersey girl. So I will grab a slice. I will not maybe like once a week, just like because that's like on my rush day. But other than that, I'll eat like a tuna sandwich

is that I do hate can tuna. I'm sure that's illegal too. sandwich? Is that I do you hate can tuna? I'm sure that's illegal too. No, it's, um, look, you can get it like packed in water and you don't need oil, although you're trim. So, so what I mean trim is such a, wow, it's like 1970, I just said you're trim. What I mean, like you're fit, you don't look like a girl that's trying to drop weight. So if you're trying to drop weight, you don't want to pack in oil. The only concern with tuna is if you eat tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of it. No, no. You can accumulate mercury in your body and you're perfectly fine to do that. I like to put some olive oil on mine because I'm I want the healthy fats and I'm not watching calories. So I'll do it with like

olive oil and dill and cranberries. And I'll see sometimes I just cheat and buy the tuna at full foods. They have this cranberry tuna. That's already done. It's delicious. Yeah, I want to do it. Yeah, it's all get like the rotisserie chicken next to it's the cranberry tuna. Is it perfect?

I mean, wild caught salmon is perfect. But two of the salad is fine. Travelling that's loaded up with mayo. That's all. Well, what if you use light mayo I use light mayo just a tad of light mayo God, I don't even remember what's in the light mayo, but if it's filled with shit, I would rather use Jesus you are like I'm gonna have to change my whole life after this

Jesus you are like I'm gonna have to change my whole life after this podcast. You're not. Look you're using things. You're I'm just trying to take the unfortunately the way I look at food now and I stand fortunately is because you lose your your start to lose your reliability and I can see that the problem is I talk to doctors all day long and the doctors I talk to doctors all day long. And the doctors, I talk to specialize in being essentially an upstreamist, meaning they don't like to treat their patients with medications, they do if they need to,

but an upstreamist is a person that goes, all right, why is your thyroid fucked up? Not, let me throw drugs at the problem, right? They will if they need to, but they wanna know why you have PCS, and they want to look at that and see if they can help you with lifestyle, food, and host of other things.

So when I talk to this variety of doctors, there's this one doctor named Dr. Umanide, and she wrote an incredible book called, This Is Your Brain on Food, and she really looks at mood, anxiety, depression, all of the different ways your food impacts your brain chemistry. So when you tell me things like I'm having this creamer, all I know on my brain is on my girl, my god, she's going to get genetic mutations in her gut and it's going to fuck up her body's natural ability to process insulin over.

That's what I know in my head. So you're like, what's a matter with you is just a little creamer, but I'm seeing it every time I look at food, I'm like, that can save your life, that can kill you. So I'm always going to try to find a swap that will go from killing you to saving your life. And if I can't get you to save your life, then I'm going to try to go somewhere in the middle like that cube of sugar over the splasher for organic almond milk. I'm going to do it. That I'm going to make a promise to you that I'm going to do because I have guilt about it when I do do it because I know it's not the right thing. And now if I'm having a personal session with Jillian Michaels, I'm going to listen to you. I am going to listen to what

you're telling me today. Okay, so we got past it. And I've heard a lot that we need to get back to like understanding our relationships with food, right? Like you need to understand there's, there is a little bit of a relationship with me and that coffee in the morning. I have a relationship like I can't wait to get out of bed and grab my creamer.

And if someone drank all my creamer, and it's not there in the morning, I lose my shit. Like my day starts off from home. I am annoyed, I am aggravated. I'm like, who would ever drink the last of the creamer at their nighttime coffee? Like that was very rude. I get so insulted.

I really do. I get pissed actually. You can see it all over my face. But anyway, moving on. I do understand. I understand. I do. It's an emotional thing I have with that cup of coffee in the morning. And I'm not even a call. It's just one time a day really. Maybe sometimes I'll grab a Starbucks, but moving on, hold on for dinner. Hold on. Is your coffee organic? I forgot to ask you. Hold on, is your copy organic? I forgot to ask you.

No. This copy has to be our, I don't know. I like Folgers. I just buy Folgers. Oh my God, dude. Anyone, I just need to tell my listeners if you guys can see her facial expressions and how she's reacting to everything I'm saying.

It is like I said the worst thing she's ever heard. In her life, she's holding her head, guys. She is literally holding her head. Oh my God, it's like drinking two-bunked check, but adding like a shot of poison into it. All right, first of all, wait, no folders. No, no. Oh, what?

No, it's organic. Okay, first of all, organic coffee. Then we can get into gourmet coffee. Coffee is one of the heaviliest sprayed crops in the world. I think it's second only to cotton. So it's got that much crap and poison on it. Conversely, if you switch to organic coffee, you're getting all kinds of awesomeness,

antioxidants, polyphenols, and if you switch it to cold brew, you're getting less of the tannins and the acids and the, it does have it's long story short. It can strip out some of the, some of the oils that aren't as good for you. So cold brew would be ideal, right? You can make it cold brew and heat it up.

If you want to skip that and just tell me to go fuck myself on that one. I'm going to get organic coffee. I'm going to do it. I'm going to get organic coffee. I'm going to get the little cube, the little brown cube 14. I feel better. Whatever you said 14 grams of sugar. Yeah, 14 calories worth of sugar. 14 grams of sugar. No, 14 calories of sugar. No, it's 14 calories of sugar. Okay, so see listeners, I obviously don't know what I'm doing. So don't ask me how I stay in shape. I don't know. Because here's what you're doing. You're exercising obviously and you're not eating a ton. So, so what happens is that don't forget the second aspect of food that we haven't touched on, is that food contains calories. Calories are units of energy. So, food has micronutrients,

vitamins, minerals, all the good things, antioxidants, polyphenols, all the awesomeness, but totally separate in a part, it also holds energy. So wait, believe it or not, and we can, you know, I've got an a million arguments with different people about this, but at the end of the day, wait is determined by how much energy you take in. And while they'll tell you, like,

oh, that's not true because when you eat really healthy, you don't overeat, bullshit. I've seen people do it a million times because they're like, I'm eating so healthy. I don't know why I'm gaining weight. I'm like, when you had three avocados, a bag of cashews, and a whole package of chicken. Bingo.

Okay, so energy is energy. And when, how do you think bears hibernate for the winter? They're eating all the awesome stuff, right? Wild salmon, fruits, nuts, berries, but somehow, they pack on enough fat to not eat for months at a time. But if they're not getting ruffles, I mean, I hope not. So with that said, you are not overeating.

So you're balancing your energy in and your energy out. That's fantastic, right? So if there's no weight gain and you're not trying to use weight Your exercising so that's one of the best ways to support your hormone balance Atophagy which is when the body cleans up the dead sinets and stuff your muscle maintenance your bone density your cardiovascular health It's the number one form of preventative medicine. I'm just looking at over time, because remember, fit people can still get cancer, skinny people, and I'm saying skinny because I'm saying they're not fit, right? They're just not overweight. They're not having an excessive body fat.

Can still get diabetes and heart disease and all of those things. Just because you might not be overweight, it does not mean that you cannot get very, very sick from all the crap and the food. So you need to think about both. Okay. And then listen, for dinner, I'm having a little piece of meat every night, usually like a little grill chicken, a vegetable, and maybe a little rice or like, I'll make my kids the baked potato and I'll like take two scoops. I'll

carbs during the week for much for lunch and and I w day, six days a week and I you for a minute about work why are you making faces say wrong now? It's about is wrong with that? You don't need to avoid carbohydrates and you shouldn't.

I don't want to like dole gin them during the week, right? Because I'll eat pasta on Sundays and I'll eat it on Saturday nights. I'll have the bread at dinner if they serve any kind of bread when I go out to eat. I eat it every piece of it. Okay, so that's a poor quality car when you're doing it in moderation. So that's fine. Right. We're talking about process flower. Hold on. And one thing I do do with the bread when they put it in front of me is I got them. I only eat the outside the crust, but I load

it with butter, but I do not eat the fatty part. I rip it right off and put it on my side plate there. My salad. Can you do olive oil instead of butter? Sure, yes, with a lot of salt, you just dip it in. It's amazing. I'll take it because you don't have high blood pressure. So we don't really need to worry about the salt. If you don't have high blood pressure, and in fact, some iodized salt is actually good because your thyroid can be iodized and it's hard to get. Wait, so tell me the difference because I always see there's iodized or there's the non-iodized because I used to work in the old school,

all the old school Italians do. Which one do I want? Iodized. Okay, what's the difference? Okay, so iodized has iodine added to it. Iodine you can get in, got I mean a little bit, and like always turns, some seafood, but not a time.

You really can only find it in sea vegetables. Like what, calm a, nori, kombu, kelp. So if you're going for sushi, but really, if you get the little sweet sauce, and you have those a few times a week, that helps a lot. But if you're using iodized salts, you're gonna be fine.

You don't want copious amounts of salt. If you have high blood pressure or heart condition, it's a monster no-no. You gotta be super chill with the salt, but your cardiologist can explain all of that to you. Right. But it's dangerous. For people with a heart condition,

as they would know, blood pressure issues, they gotta be very, very careful with their salt. If you don't know of anything like that, you're salt in your food, you're not going crazy, you're exercising, which means you're sweating. So you're going to be sweating out some of that salt. The iodine is adding iodine. Iodine is necessary for optimal thyroid function. So you're fine to do that. And the olive oil has the polyunsaturated, bonounsaturated, it's the good fat. Those are your good guys. Polyunsaturated, monoinsaturated fatty acids. So you're not shining. Wait, we don't need to worry about the calories there. So we're getting the nutrition. And it's

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Let me talk to you for a second about just workouts real quickly. So let me speak to you about abdominals for a second because there's the there's the plank, right? The plank that everyone is obsessed with. All the trainers say we need to play. I love the air. The air. The air. The air clerk, the air clerk. I'm not the clerk, the air clerk. The air clerk, the air clerk. The air clerk, the air clerk. I'm not the clerk, the air clerk. The air clerk. The air clerk. The air clerk.

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So people who do ab exercises thinking they're gonna get a flat stomach, it's not gonna happen. We have to burn, if you in fact have body fat on top of your muscles, if you're doing a fat, it's going to keep you from having a flat stomach. If that's something that you want, corduances are not going to accomplish it. This is a combination of hit training and core conditioning and strength training because the goal is to burn body fat so that you can see your abs. So separate conversation. We're

talking about functional training that it's going to be plank and plank variations. And the reason is because you're working multiple muscle groups simultaneously and synergistically. So if you think about what you're working when you're in a plank, you've got your shoulders, your triceps, right? You've got your quads engaged. If you do it right, you're squeezing your ass like you're going to try to eat your leggings with your with your booty, right? Squeeze your little butt. Keep it nice and strong. Pull that belly button up into your spine.

Flare out your inner cocos and your lads and your upper back with the spine neutral. And you got a ton of muscles working together for optimal functionality, a better calorie burn, better core strength over all. Crunch is not as functional, it isolates. Not that I don't do them. I do them, but with a bunch of different exercises.

So if you had to pick one, you can do them. You can find me to do them, just as long as you're doing them the right way, right? So a sit-up you don't need. So instead of a sit-up, you would do a crunch and a reverse crunch, which is gonna be way more effective. Because a sit-up, you would do a crunch and a reverse crunch, which is going to be way more effective. There's a sit-up.

Once you get the shoulder blades off the ground, you're now moving into hip flexors, and it's not bad. It's not going to accomplish what you wanted to accomplish. So what you want to do is keep your chin off of your chest, think about bringing the bottom rib towards the hip bone and drawing the belly button into the spine so the lower back is on the floor and lifting the shoulder blades off the ground. Once the shoulder blades are off the ground, you get a full exhale ashing at the top of the movement, right? So exhaling and drawing the belly button into the spine for a nice contraction and then lowering breakdown, inhaling on the way down, that's a crunch. Anything higher

than that, you're done with the abs at that point. So now a reverse crunch is the opposite. You want to rotate your pelvis towards your upper body. A lot of people think, you see them doing things like me raising and you know, in terms and all these things, but all they're doing is hammering the crap out of their hip flexors. The key to hitting those lower abdominals is keeping the low back on the ground during your ab work and rotating your pelvis so that you're lifting your hips up off the ground and think about bringing the knees towards your nose. So you should be able to slide your hands under your butt on that reverse crunch and back out.

Right. Make sense. Okay, but you would prefer a plank over a crunch if you had to choose. I hate choosing. And here's why I hate choosing. I think all are great. And it's like saying to you a heart surgeon, I ain't gonna give you one tool to perform this quadruple bypass, and they would just be like, but the guy's gonna die. Like you're not gonna die, it's just super inefficient. People build, they adapt to the exercise. You wanna continuously train the body

in a variety of ways, from a variety of angles of pushing the pole with, sometimes higher reps, sometimes low reps, obviously adjusting the weight accordingly, variety is key with fitness. I'll take plank over crunch, but you should really be doing both. So a lot of women out there,

they're concerned about the extra skin, especially after having babies, there's that skin. Is there a solution for this skin besides surgery? No besides a tummy tuck is the skin ever gonna go away from anything other than a surgery? Well, that's I know I'm sorry Everybody I know about a lot of people talk about that skin, especially after babies. I know. And the thing of it is, like I want to see you and I've said this to so, so, so, so many

women. Listen, you know, fitness comes down to the serenity prayer. And this is what I mean. You got to have the strength to change the stuff that you can, and the stuff that you can usually needs to be changed, right? It's when you're carrying a lot of extra weight and it's life-threatening. And it's causing a host of other health issues that run the gamut from a wrecked out of this function, the glaucoma.

Like I can go pancreatic cancer if you go on and on. That needs to be changed. You're not healthy at any size. That's a dirty rotten lie. And you got to wonder who's profiting from that lie. Oh, I don't know. Big, big, farma, certainly not the person who's overweight. Right. Gave a laying that. Okay. Then you get into stuff like skin and cellulite and that has nothing to do with your health.

It's a matter of aesthetic. I have no problem with that. Listen, if there's something on my body that I could change, I wish I was taller. If there was a surgery, I would get it. That if huge noises of kids, I fixed it. My teeth were crooked, fixed up. You know what I mean? Like, I would do it.

I have no issue with people changing things that they don't like, but ultimately, that part of the surgery, where it's like, have the ability to accept the things you can't change and the wisdom to know the difference. Stuff like cellulates, stuff like extra skin, like your healthy, beautiful, nobody's perfect, you had a kid, that's amazing.

You know what I mean? Like celebrate the shit out of that. It's kind of incredible. You're built a human. You're their leader now. Like it's, you know, like Yeah, think of it. It's the right side. And if you really, really, really bothers you, you can get a tummy stuck. And I, you know, I've had several fronts. You've got it. It's painful and it's expensive, but you can do it. It's not just. Yeah.

Well, listen, Julian, thank you so much for coming on today. I enjoyed every second of this and I have been dying and waiting to talk to you about all of these things. So make sure you all head over to Gillianmichels.com. We have a promo code. It's on display. They're going to get a discount with this, right? Just for my listeners. Half, absolutely.

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Like I wanna talk about everything. I can keep going, but I don't want to take too much more of your time. I can make the water tip really simple for you. Ready? Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. All you have to do is look at your pee. The pee is for your pee to look like lemonade. So it looks like apple juice. You need more water. If it looks like water, you need to replenish your electrolyte. That's simple. Really? So your pee says it all. Everything you need to know.

Everybody has different water. What about what it's really yellow, really yellow? If you're supplementing like crazy and not the way it's really yellow, but you can tell, right? If it's neon, but even dark, darker, more concentrated, more water. You're dehydrated. Yeah, period.

It should look like lemonade. And if it looks like water, water, you can develop an electrolyte imbalance. And it takes a lot for that to become severe, but it can cause headaches, fatigue, brain fog, and it's not that hard for those people who are pounding like a gallon of water and working out all the time. So simply add coconut water or I have no investment in this product. It's called Electronics. It's great little addition on salt and your food. If you keep a little salt. Seltzer.

Seltzer, yes or no? Sparkling water? It's sparkling water, but I always buy like, Seltzer because I buy cases of Seltzer. Sparkling of amount of dinner. Sugar, which I'm gonna put for. No, so Seltzer has zero sodium in it. Club soda has the sugar.

No, zero. It's just carbonated water, basically. Yeah, 100% all day long and all the myths you've heard about, like, eating your bones is bullshit. It's all bullshit. It's not like some people say it bothers you. Some make the carbonation is not good for you. All of this. Not unless you personally are noticing, like, I'll have makes me, I get this comfort.

And you this really is where people need to listen to their body because I have zero issues. I've never met anybody with issues, but every all here that somewhere, oh, it can make you feel gassy. I mean, I've never had that problem. That side, listen to your body, but it's not even the slightest bit unhealthy. It's a little expensive. Right. All right. Well, this has been so informative today.

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much for coming on. I appreciate it. Wow. I mean, really isn't she incredible? I just love everything she has to say. I can listen to that podcast over and over and over again. She really is so insightful. And I hope you guys took away some helpful things from my chat with Jillian. And if it was a relic him for some of you out there, I hope you guys caught something new that you might have missed the first time around. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed that, but now I'm off to BravoCon. So wish me luck, guys. Joe tomorrow is doing this thing.

He's got to be Magic Mike with Frank Catania and Joe Beningo. I am going to laugh my ass off literally the whole time. So pay attention to my Instagram, so you can see some live action because you know that I will be, you know, definitely putting this on my Instagram if I'm not, you know, historically laughing somewhere because you know what, you guys know

he's gonna take it so seriously. Like gag me with a spoon, he's gonna take this so seriously, I'm gonna wanna die. And you know Frank and Joby are gonna be hysterical. So that is like what I'm really looking forward to at BravoCon. All right guys, love you guys so much.

I can't wait to hug all of you guys and meet you if you're gonna be at BravoCon. Make sure you guys come right up to me and tell me that you listen to on display so I can have an extra special moment with you guys. Don't forget to tune in next week. I'm going to be with one of my favorite New York housewives from New York. Erin Leachie and I'm super excited about that because she's an awesome girl.

I'm actually having dinner with her in Vegas too. So we will talk to you guys next week. Love you so much. Ciao. Let's do it! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

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