On Display with Melissa Gorga - REWIND: Mel and The Gang (w/ The LadyGang)
Episode Date: December 26, 2024Melissa is joined by the always hilarious, LadyGang, to talk about the "cheugy" (or "chuggy") feud between Millenials and GenZ, how Keltie is owning the term, "Sexy Mature," and who, out of the crew,... would make a great addition to The Real Housewives. This week's sponsors: Babbel - Language Learning that Actually Works: www.Babbel.com/ONDISPLAY (Up to 60% off!) PlutoTV - Free Streaming TV: www.Pluto.TV Progressive - "Name-Your-Price" Tool: www.Progressive.com Prolon - Fasting with Food: www.ProlonLife.com/OnDisplay (15% off 5-Day Nutrition Plan) ZocDoc - Trusted Doctors Just a Few Taps Away: www.ZocDoc.com/melissa
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Sexy Mature is like you get a different bikini for every day of your vacation, but you have
a 401k. All right, guys, welcome to another episode of On Display.
This one is going to be a fun one today.
They're the girls from the incredibly successful podcast, the Lady Gang.
I had Becca on a while back, but now we've got the whole gang here together with me.
So please welcome from the Lady Gang, I have Becca, I have Jack, and I have Kelty.
Hey, girl.
Hey.
Hi.
Thanks for having us.
Thanks for coming on.
We're so excited to have you.
And also, you know what, Melissa, you're already in trouble.
Thank you for having us and I'm going to point something out.
The note specifically said, we're not going to use this video so you guys don't have to
come make up or like come pretty. And we've come, I don't know how the other girls are
feeling, but I've come full nasty. You've got a beautiful looks like designer sweater
on, a barrel curl wave in your hair, a perfect cheekbone, I lip gloss a manicure. You're
looking fabulous. So I don't know what this note,
we missed the note of you don't look like trash and that's not fair and we're leaving.
All right. I am. This is by the way, I always pop on a little, first of all,
you're my favorite guest I ever had. Thank you so much. I do put lip gloss on because I keep it in
my podcast room because, and I have zero makeup on. I know you probably don't believe me, but there's lip gloss, so it's deceiving. I had Botox done yesterday,
so I feel like everything, you know when it's the next day, everything's a little swollen
and like a little, so I'm feeling healthy today. So it's beautiful.
It's beautiful. Yes, I'm feeling healthy. But what's up with
you girls? You guys are all so cute. Can I just say that first of all? And you're cute even with no makeup on or whatever you're
trying to say. You guys look so cute with all your little headphones on. And I'm very
happy to have you guys. This is my first podcast I've ever had three guests at once. So this
is fun for me. This is entertaining.
It's a foursome.
Yeah. Like I almost want to just like sit back and listen to you girls. You guys have an awesome podcast on podcast one
that is killing it. So congratulations on that. Thank you. It's called the Lady Gang.
I know that you guys do this segment, okay, on your podcast. It's called Good Week, Bad
Week, right? Oh yeah. Very popular. Okay. So I just want to see real quickly if you guys, I would love to tell you about my Good
Week, Bad Week if you'd like to hear it because first of all, it's only today's what, Tuesday?
So we didn't have a lot of days happening here, right?
But today was my bad day.
Today was the bad day, believe it or not, because my employees at Envy threw me for
a little loop today.
We had like a little lady drama at Envy.
And I will say that my employees are always very, very great.
They're amazing.
Shout out to all of them.
Today we had some like weird little drama that I haven't had to deal with really in
a very long time.
So I was stressed out.
I was trying to work out this morning. I took a little class. My phone was ringing
and ringing and the other girl was calling and then the other girl was calling. I was
like, what is happening here? So retail drama. Yes, I had a little retail drama. My good
thing was we raised money for charity this week for kids with cancer with an awesome
event of like this huge disco. Do you guys ever hear about this? The world's largest
disco? No. It's in Buffalo, New York, which is such an odd place to get to. Random. Buffalo
is a good party city though, because if you live in Buffalo, you drive to... I'm Canadian
and I know Buffalo because all the Americans that were not 21 yet and couldn't drink would drive over
to Buffalo where it was 18. No, drive from Buffalo to Canada.
Yeah, they drive from Buffalo to Canada to party and then they go down. That's why we have so many
American, Canadian babies and marriages because they met in Canada at the bar.
They met in Buffalo at the bar or in Canada?
In Canada. You go like Windsor, Ontario or wherever and you can go drinking three years
earlier technically than, I mean, we were all drinking at 15 in the basement of the
party. But you know, officially you can drink at a bar and go to a club. So I'm not surprised
there's the world's largest disco in Buffalo because it seems like-
It's happening.
People like to party.
What does the world's largest disco even entail? seems like- It's hopping. People like to party. It's popping.
What does the world's largest disco even entail?
What goes on there?
10,000 tickets sold all in the big convention center in Buffalo, New York, insanity to say
the least.
Every single dollar, including what you put in the tip cup for the bartender, goes to
the charity with kids with
cancer.
Holy shit.
Yes.
It's called Good Days Camp.
It was amazing to do.
So that was a great part of, well, it was Sunday.
What did you wear to the disco?
So I wore a purple dress that was from Envy, but it was very sparkly and it could totally
be a disco.
I put the little do raggy in my hair there and tied it could totally be a disco I put like, you know
the little do raggy in my hair there and tied it in a knot and put on the purple sunglasses and
Called it a day and I looked very disco queen ready. Um, so it was good and it was like raising a lot of money
So I'm like, you know what? I actually have a good week bad week thing to contribute
So I want to be like just like you guys and contributing. Yeah. It was not pretty good. Yeah. Do you guys have anything interesting?
I mean, I do. I have something. I mean, this is pretty lame. She always has a thing, right?
You know, my good week this week is I recently was taken aback by, I think it was a TikTok
I was watching or maybe it was in therapy. I'm not sure like what part of real life or
fake life this was, but someone was like, Oh, I remember now is my acupuncturist. And
she was like, well, Kelty, it's your own fault because you have all the tools, but if you
don't use them, I don't know what to tell you because I was feeling like shit and she was, you know, whatever.
And so then I have been on a big health journey this year, but I got really into the veggies
and my health, but I forgot about my hormones and the progesterone cream.
And this is like a lady of a certain age and I'm in perimenopause and my period keeps getting
worse and worse and worse and my PMS gets worse and worse and worse and my periods are heavy
and terrible.
And I don't, I'm so sorry if there's boys that listen to you, but most I'm bringing
this to you. Um, and so anyway, this month I really focused on using my progesterone
cream for the 14 days before my period was coming and guys, it fixed everything. I mean,
my boobs are a little sore. My boobs are a little bit sore, but I, I switched between
wrists and boobs every night before I went to bed. My PMS was like almost non-existent
I didn't have the huge breakdown. I didn't have the cry. I got my period this morning and I was like
Kelsey you have the tools if you use them
So if you don't know what I'm talking about, listen to Lady Gang we had a hormone expert Candice Birch on twice
she talks about progesterone cream and like how it changes your life and you have the tools and
So that wait a second. You don't understand
Did you know that I'm going through this exact thing that you're talking about?
I literally just found out I'm anemic because of my ridiculously heavy, sorry boys, period.
The way I PMS, the whole thing.
So you're telling me that cream will fix it all?
I don't know if it'll fix it all.
But an anemic I have dealt with this year and I have a, I mean, I'm not even going to get,
this is not a health coaching podcast. This is a fun pop culture podcast, but I have thoughts.
I have thoughts and I'll DM you about that.
No, please do.
But a very similar boat about that. But hormones and like what we go through and how old are
you now? Sorry, real age or big age?
May, 44.
Okay, 44. 44 really.
Okay, 44.
Yeah.
So I'm going to be 42 in January, which is mind blowing because I swear to God I'm still
27.
But in our 40s for the year, like until, you know, we start going through maybe menopause
at like 48, 52, whatever.
Like this time right now, our bodies, like my periods are worse than ever.
And my acupuncturist was like, I was like, my periods are so bad and I'm so weak. Like my body is literally
like, I don't, I can't possibly do it. You know what I feel like? I feel like I'm in
a horror movie or like I'm in Voldemort and Voldemort is like sucking out my soul every
time I get my period. There's nothing left. And she goes, she goes, yep, Kelty, that's
what happens. It gets worse and then it's gone. And I was like, damn it. Oh my God, you're speaking to my soul right now.
And I'm actually getting depressed as you're talking, but this is exactly what's happening
in my life.
And my doctor did not say any of these things.
They literally are like, you're anemic from heavy periods and you have 10 years to go.
So like, let's infuse you with iron.
Like I don't know.
That's why acupuncturists and some Eastern medicine is really important.
Wow. Okay. Well, me and you are going to DM just so that we don't bore everyone with period
talk.
Well, also Sharon Stone is on our podcast this week and Sharon Stone told us that you
can go and get your total uterus if you're finished having children lasered off so you
never have to have a period again.
Cauterized.
Cauterized, yeah. Yes. It's called, first of all, Sharon Stone. Yes. Like I die.
An icon.
Icon. But besides for that, that is exactly what they said to me. An oblation, I think.
Oblation. Yes.
Right. And we just had this talk like two weeks ago on this podcast because I was freaking out
that I'm anemic and I need an oblation. So you and I, Kelty, you're going to have to like DM
a little about this because I-
There's a whole other side podcast, some podcast one, uteruses with Melissa and Kelty.
Sharon raved about the oblation and then I have a girlfriend who did the same thing and
she was like, it's a game changer and so you don't bleed anymore. You might need to do
it.
I know. Why would I do it?
Yes.
Yeah. Hold on. I'll tell you why. Because I went to my doctor and I said, I want an ablation
immediately. And he said, you've had three C-sections. It's very dangerous and I'm probably
not going to give you one. And I was like, no, no, no, you're going to give me the ablation.
I need the ablation desperately. So now he's putting me through testing for sonogram, whatever,
whatever, whatever. But I need an ablation.
That's the end of that talk.
But for real, it's a serious thing that happens in a girl's world.
It's no joke.
And truly, I do feel like I'm 20.
I feel about 32, honestly.
I feel like I'm like 31, 32.
I act like it.
That's it.
That's my age.
That's what I age that I feel. I feel like I stopped
at early thirties and I just refuse to acknowledge that it's not anymore.
Well, I know, but you know what's also happening? You don't really feel any different either
as like, it just, it just don't. I'm like, what? I think the same. I act the same. I
might be a little more successful, but other than that, everything else to me feels the
same. You know what other question I want to ask you guys? So just cutting off this
good week, bad week. When I went to this disco, it was me and a couple like there was the
Brady Bunch guy. He was Peter Brady. What is his name? I don't know. He was Peter Brady and he's
going to know his name is Chris Knight. Yes, Chris Knight. Yes, it was Chris Knight. There
was a guy from LA law who was like a big why I draw I'm so bad with names but there was
somebody from LA law like he's very famous guy. He's been a lot of movies. He's done
a lot of things. And I don't know if you guys know 90210,
but I'm sure you do.
But I in Ziering was there.
And I was totally fan girl.
Because when you're growing up to these shows
and think they're untouchable,
like Dylan and like Brandon and these guys,
and then they stand in front of you
and they're normal nice guys and went to lunch. I was like, I am literally having a fan girl moment. So no, but my question
is really like, so when you fantasize about these people growing up or whatever it is,
and you think they're untouchable, and then fast forward 20 years and you're like having
lunch with them, it's awkward. It's a little weird to sit there and admit that I used to have
a major crush on you and we're just sitting here casually and sharing a fry and a soda.
It was crazy. Has this ever happened to you guys?
Kelty, you just had it with someone you interviewed. You said, have you ever been in the same room
with your teenage crush? Who was it?
Jerry Halliwell from the Spice Girls.
No, no. It was a guy.
Oh, Scott Wolf.
Scott Wolf. Oh my god,
do you remember Scott Wolf from Party of Five? Yes. He was at E! News the other day because he
has a new Christmas movie with Lacey Chabert and Lacey knows that I love Scott Wolf because
they're both Hallmark stars and I talk about them all the time. And Lacey's like,
Kelsey, I have a surprise for you. Around down the hallway, there's Scott Wolf,
still with his hair flipped up at the front. I'm 17 again.
Still with his hair flipped up at the front, like I'm 17 again. Hey, Lisa, so is a good guy.
Yeah, there's just something about running into it.
It's when it was like a teen star when you were like, I was literally in like 15, 13
fangirling.
And then when it becomes like weird when you actually see them and you're standing next
to them and your husband at the same time.
It's just like, it's always kind of funny to me.
It's even like, Joe got annoyed the of funny to me. It's even like,
Joe got annoyed the other day because I've always had a crush on Dr. McDreamy. Like I just always
have. And he's just, he just got announced people's most whatever that is, the sexiest man alive. And
the girls, my envy girls bought me every magazine you could that he did because you know how they
do multiple covers and Joe comes home and I'm like, seriously? And I'm like, and it is weird because one day you could end
up just standing next to them and it's just like an odd thing. It's like, it's when you
feel like a little funny about the whole situation. But true. Yeah. So, all right. Good. Well,
I like the good week, bad week stuff. Can we please talk about the term that Kelty kind
of like owned this right last year or maybe it's called sexy mature. Can we talk about the term that Kelty kind of owned this last year or maybe it's called sexy mature.
Can we talk about sexy mature for a minute?
Jack, will you please-
Jack, you can take this.
Jack, please tell the origin story that's just so funny about sexy mature.
Yes, please do.
Like about a year ago, Kelty was in her Instagram fame. I mean, she's always in her Instagram
fame era. She's just in her Instagram fame era.
She's just trying to get the most likes, get the most followers, get the most praise.
She was posting all of these different photos.
I don't remember which photo it was exactly on, but to try to boost her engagement, she
was using all of these different hashtags.
I think that she put one hashtag and maybe a hashtag generator and yes, it generated other hashtags
Yes, and I was looking at one of her photos and I'm like, oh my god
What the hell is hashtag sexy mature? So then I click on it and it's like a whole piece
It's like almost like soft porn images of all of these like middle-aged
huge boobed women like scantily clad, like definitely
having OnlyFans on the side that they're trying to promote. And then it's Kelty trying to
like take over this hashtag. And I just thought it was the funniest thing. So I brought it
up during one of our Good Week, Bad Weeks. And from then on, it kind of just snowballed
into this thing that now Kelty has taken on
because she is sexy mature.
This is her era and I'm just obsessed with it.
That is so funny.
I mean, if-
Sexy mature is a way of life.
Sexy mature is like you get a different bikini for every day of your vacation, but you have
a 401k.
You're sexy mature. You're not it. You get a different bikini for every day of your vacation, but you have a 401k.
You're sexy mature.
You got it.
You garden with a giant hat on and you hike with a giant hat on and may wear a driving
glove to protect your skin, but you will wear a hoary dress in Las Vegas to go out to a club and dance with your friends
on the banquet still.
Wait, so do all three of you dress sexy mature?
Would you all consider yourselves sexy mature?
You can't find one item in my closet that would fall under that category.
That has never been sexy mature.
She's been, she's been like, mature, mature. I accidentally shopped on a website for years that was for women with religious constraints.
What?
It's Becca.
I can't take it.
How old are you, Becca?
How old are you?
I'm 37.
37.
Oh my God.
What?
You're just like that girl.
Is she the most low key?
Would you guys say like the most chill?
No, she's not.
She's so chic that she can, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like,
she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's Oh my God. What? You're just like that girl. Is she the most low key? Would you guys say
like the most chill?
No, she's not. She's so chic that she can wear a turtleneck in the summer.
I love covering my body.
In a very stylish way that only Becca can pull off. And she's also tiny. She's short
and like teeny tiny. So like it works for her in a way that like Kelsey and I wouldn't
be able to do.
This website in my defense was high end stuff that you also would find at like Nataporte
and Moda Operandi, but they had essentially only bought the items from the lines like
Zimmerman. What can you buy where an Orthodox woman can wear it? So it's like high necks
below the knee. I was just going to say it sounds like it's for the orthodox or his city. Or that's what you jumped on. It was called like modest.com.
No you did not. It was at modest.com. And it was maybe called The Modest. I don't remember.
It's debunked now, which it makes me so devastated. I haven't been able to find it. I can't imagine
not enough people shopped at the modest.com.
You don't mean there's not thousands of women out there
wanting to find a $1,700 dress that covers your whole body?
Jesus.
You know, I see like sexy mature as like a girl who's still hot,
but like she wears, okay, you got the pencil skirt on,
but it has a slit up the leg and you can wear the turtleneck, but it's a tight fitted turtleneck. I see it as an expensive,
classy hot chick. Sharon Stone.
That woman is wearing orthopedics in her shoes and she's taking heartburn medicine when she's
eating dinner. You can do it all ladies.
It's like, I look amazing. I'm doing street style in New York, but I also am wearing an adult diaper because you
never fucking know.
You know what I mean?
Sexy mature.
You're making sexy mature for freaking 60 year olds.
That's what you're doing right now.
It's both.
It's both.
Sexy mature is like- Two glasses of wine and you feel like you've
been hit by a train the next day.
But like you still look chic and you're still going to drink expensive wine, but you're going to feel like garbage the next day because
you're old and now you get hangovers.
Yeah, you have to do your stretches because your sciatica is really flaring up.
Your hair color is perfect balayage, but that's only because you dye your hair every four
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So hold on.
Speaking of sexy mature, what about the...
Have you guys seen the TikTok trend where like Gen Z is bashing millennials for their fashion and like calling them like,
like they're trying too hard. They're cringy. I think they call them like chuggy or something.
Chuggy. Chuggy. Chuggy. Chuggy.
Honestly, chuggy is where it's at. Chuggy is good.
Chuggy is at. I like it.
They're so chuggy. Chuggy.
Chuggy is the Jersey version of Chuggie.
Wait, if you know me on the housewives or even like you, I'm known to butcher words.
So it would not be a podcast unless I butchered something.
So I think we should just change it to Chuggie.
Is it Chuggie?
It is Chuggie.
That's what it is.
But we're changing it to Chuggie.
Yeah, like chugga chugga.
Yes.
Well, okay. So why like,ugga chugga. Yes.
Well, okay.
So why, like, are you guys seeing this?
You know, I have a daughter, I got married very young and I had a child very young.
And my daughter does this to me, like the skinny jeans.
Every time I put a pair of skinny jeans on, which hello, I like a high boot.
I live in New Jersey.
I can't put a high boot on unless I have a skinny jean on.
So once in a while I have to wear a skinny jean. She rips me for it. Like the second
and she's 18. The second I like walk out my bedroom, she's like, why are you wearing a
skinny jean? Like she legit can't stand it. The side parts, the whole thing, even like
leggings. Meanwhile, she's on a legging every freaking day with a big oversized hoodie that you don't even know what's going on under there. And
like, this is just like a thing. Is anyone offended?
I just think it's like everybody's obsessed with us. That's what I've decided. Like, boomers
are obsessed with millennials. I don't know why. And then the Gen Z are also obsessed
with millennials. Like everybody just loves to talk about us because we're jealous because they're jealous
about, but it's just so weird. No other generation gets ragged on the way that millennials do
from like both sides. It's true. That is also millennials millennials, we're the first internet kids.
That's why, hence millennials.
So I think we're the first people that really ever started to be exhibitionists with our
style, our house, our lifestyle.
We're the first exhibitionists.
And I think it really triggers Gen Z because they're trying-
They think they were first.
And now they think the way that we show off is somehow chuggy, but really we're just the
originators of this entire world.
So chuggy, it's a little chuggy.
Yes.
And the shit that Gen Z's are doing are so embarrassing.
It's just like wait a few years, wait until Gen Alpha or whatever is next gets ahold of them because like, they're so embarrassing.
It's bad. It's bad. Like you think millennials are bad?
No. Millennials are terrible, but I'll tell you what, to all the men, when it's your wedding
in 10 years, Gen Z, and someone plays a video of you doing your sexy dance and mouthing
the words to a song
and that was supposed to be sexy on TikTok, you're going to want to keel over and be sexy
mature or like whatever, because there's so much that they're sharing that no one should
be sharing.
The reason we can't make fun of boomers is because no one took any photos.
Right.
There's no photos.
There's no evidence. There's zero evidence of anything they've done in their past, like zero.
And half of our lives are pretty clear.
We have like half life clear, the other half is not.
And they're like the first generation that they are all aspiring to be YouTubers.
That's embarrassing.
That is. You know what? I agree with you. I love that you just kind of say it out loud.
I also think they're introverts in some type of way though, just like in social settings,
right? So they're not behind the computer or with their cell phones. They're not, but
in a social setting, they're not great, right? Where I think millennials are better and I just feel like they're very odd in social
settings.
They're having less sex.
They know, like they've done studies now and teenagers now and kids and their people in
their twenties are having less sex than we did because they're-
Because they have no social skills.
No social skills and they're getting everything they need at their phone like they want to see tits
They're gonna open up freaking whatever and see some tits
To see boobs when when we were in high school guys had to really try they had to work
They had to have game they had to be the life of the party
They had to have some party like they had to work really hard
So then they see boobs and they're in person and then that's when sex happens. But I'm sad for them. They're not having sex because they're not even getting
to see boobs in real life.
There was this TikTok that I saw of a millennial girl and she was just like, I am asking all
the Gen Z out there, like, what do you guys do? Like, what do you do for fun? Like, what
do you do in your free time? And all of the answers were literally like nothing.
Like back in the day, we were going and hanging out
at Jack in the Box or like going to the movie theater
or like going to the whatever, forest parties.
I don't know what people did.
Roller skating.
Roller skating.
I went to the mall.
I got dropped off to the mall like it was a mess.
Oh, the mall.
Sat at the mall for four hours a day.
Like people don't do that anymore. They just sit in their rooms on their phones and it
makes me really sad. It's the same thing. They have no social skills. They don't know
how to make friends outside of their phones. It's harder to date. Like it's a bummer.
It's good for us, Melissa, because you're in TV and I'm also in TV. And like what's
great is that we're sort of irreplaceable because they keep trying to hire
some bitch with like tigger and tiktok followers to host television shows and every time it backfires
They've tried so many television shows with youtubers and like it never works
Because you're good at talking to your screen like this. Hey guys a lot and then when there's an audience you're like
I can't talk i'm like, you know, so yeah
What's good is like we're gonna be on on TV for a long time because we know what?
Yes. Yes. I'm going to say yes. You know what? They try that shit with housewives too. Like,
let me bump a newer younger. Nope. You need the personality. Keep it where it's at. You
need the people who know how to deal with humans in real life. Wait, speaking of Bravo
and Bravo con didn't Kelsey, you were there, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So what were you doing?
So I was there for E! News interviewing everybody.
I can't remember if I saw you.
I mean, obviously, it's so memorable for both of us.
Did I see you?
Did I see you on the carpet?
I think we did.
Maybe.
I'm not sure.
It was a blur.
I interviewed, I think, like 300 people within 20 hours and both of my bosses were there.
So I just don't even know
what I asked people. It was crazy.
You blacked out and you were like, I want to do this.
I mean, it was really good this year. Like I feel like we had a good time. I mean, there
was a lot of stars and it was really fun to see the fans freaking out. Like, oh my God, I'd never been to this was my first
Bravo con that I'd ever covered or been to. And it was like y'all were Elvis Presley or
you were the Spice Girls for me in high school. Like people were running down the hallway
after you guys like Melissa, can I get a picture?. It was crazy.
It was so exhausting. I mean, listen, it's a great moment for Bravo and NBC and the fans
and all that. But by the time you leave there after three days, you don't want to see a
human being, not even your child. You're just like, no one speak to me. Don't touch me.
And I just need to take a shower and I need to decompress because that was
it's a lot. You know, it's a lot of talking. It's like, it's just a lot. Do you have any
crazy any interviews gone bad when you were on that carpet? Anybody say anything crazy?
Give me some juice.
I, I got to be honest. I was very interested in the Salt Lake drama because I wondered why there's
the new girl who's on, who's not even a housewife or has money. So I don't know why, but she
came completely- Which one?
You know the girl, she's new. She's got the kids and she bought the fake bag or the fake-
The one with the mom? She is the official housewife, isn't she?
No, she's a housewife. What's her name? I can't remember.
You're asking me. I know Lisa Barlow and Meredith.
Okay. So they all came separately and I was like, oh, that's so weird. She's a new one.
Usually they like would put a new girl with the elders or the veterans so that they like
really, and then I found out after that Heather Gay and her are in a massive lawsuit because she won't
pay her beauty bar bill.
Yes.
Monica.
Monica.
She got all this filler and stuff.
And I was like, well, if Heather Gay, if I made an appointment at Beauty Lab, I would
assume if I was a housewife that she was comping me.
Like it's, you know, like I mean, what housewife pays for Botox? That's what I'm
saying. So I think she, I think Heather may some, I don't know if something happened on the new
season or what, but I was very surprised. Heather Gay in general is the biggest surprise to me
because I don't know what it is, but the way that they shoot her on Salt Lake, she is like
what it is, but the way that they shoot her on Salt Lake, she is like a beautiful woman, but in person, she is very cute. She's tiny, tiny, tiny short and like very pretty and
very cute. And there's something about the way they shoot her in Housewives that she
always looks just not put together, messy. Like I just don't think she's just really
pretty in real life. So that shocked me on the red carpet.
And you know, I mean, it's like it was really fun to watch the like levels of housewives
because it's like some of them like when you get arijit khajain on a carpet, it's like
she knows exactly what to do.
She knows exactly who she is.
You get some of those girls from Dubai and they don't know really what they're doing.
They don't know how to own it. So that was fun. But I was stuck in girls from Dubai and they don't know really what they're doing. They don't know how to own it.
So that was fun.
But I was stuck in that one room.
So I didn't, that's all I saw.
Didn't you guys just have Ariana on your podcast?
Yes.
Yes.
A couple of weeks ago.
Yeah.
How was that?
How is she doing?
She's really thriving.
You know, she's like crushing it on Dancing with the Stars.
She did the ultimate revenge move, which was like, so she and Tom, when they were together,
put out the cocktail book.
And then after the breakup, she did the cocktail book by herself.
And it's like a new one.
So it was kind of like, I don't need you for the sequel, get out of my life.
And so it's like this sexy book and she seems great.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, she's on every commercial in America, so she's doing just fine.
She's doing great.
Literally.
Lemons out of lemons.
Lemonade out of lemons.
Yeah.
Melissa, what do you know about Captain Jason?
Oh, oh, okay.
So he is very handsome.
He was at Watch What Happens Live and they kind of like embarrassed him
a little bit. Like they were calling out like the single girls to look at him and maybe
date him and trying to find him a girl. I don't know much about him at all personally,
but I do think he comes off so kind and sweet. I actually thought Brynn and like, I think
they would have hit it off.
Yeah. Didn't they?
The New New York? I don't know. I heard something.
I thought I saw something on like some Bravo fan thing about them having some flirtation.
But I can totally see that happening.
I think my husband's hall pass is Brynn.
She watches Housewives with me.
When she watches Housewives with me, it's like, I've never heard a grown man giggle
or be so in love with like a character on
TV.
Like he's always like, and like I wish I think he wants to be in a room and have her
flirt.
Yeah, me too.
But yeah, he wants to see the flirting in action right to his face.
Like in his face, boobs in her face.
Like she really has a magical vibe.
Yeah, I appreciate the flirting.
I can see a lot of women though getting intimidated
by her like if she was in the room because especially if you have any type of like insecurities
or you're like the jealous type, I can see girls getting like, Oh my God, get her out
of here. She's going to like, she's going to blink her eyes at my husband and I'm going
to lose my shit.
But she's kind of like Jack Vanak in a way. Like Jack is so tall and so beautiful and
always dressed lovely. And like people
always are like, you know, when she's in an airport, you're like, who is this girl? Because
she's like wearing something. Maybe not an airport. Not an airport. No, an airport. She's
like this. No, but like, but Jack, a music festival, a musical festival. She's like at
Coachella in a thong bodysuit with a sheer skirt and a combat boot up to
her knee and you know you did it so don't shy away from it.
I have the photo proof.
And you're like, who is this bitch?
She thinks she's so hot.
And then you meet Jack and she's like, let me tell you about my favorite dog.
This murder in Philadelphia.
And also here's my collection of frog photos on my phone.
And you're like, oh, okay.
You're like, okay, she's fine.
She can hang out.
Yeah. You're like, oh, okay, you know, you're like, okay, she's fine. She can hang out. Yeah.
Oh, she's nothing to be afraid of.
Like if she was a dude, she'd never get laid.
Like that's how nerdy Jack is.
Really?
But you know what it is, Jack?
You're a natural beauty.
Everyone loves a natural beauty.
True.
You got to have a way to bring you back down.
Yeah.
Do you guys watch Bravo?
Like, do you have a favorite show on Bravo, all of you?
Yeah. I mean, I am Bravo.
It's all Becca watches.
Oh, Becca, you're a Bravo girl.
I'm obsessed. I have to watch Bravo. The dopamine in my brain needs it. I think it's the most
enjoyable pastime because it's aspirational. I love the dynamic women, whether you love
them or you hate them, they're dynamic, they're interesting. Some of them are delusional,
which is so entertaining. My favorites, I am an OG New York, like Bethany era was really
when I fell madly in love. But ever since then, I have watched every single franchise.
I fall in and out with some. I watched Miami in the beginning. When they were on Peacock,
I didn't want to pay for Peacock, so I was like, buy Miami. And then I stopped watching.
I watched New Jersey from start to finish. I cannot wait for the new season.
Wait, what did you think? What do you think of all the new girls?
On which? On New Jersey?
On Jersey, yeah. Well, like the new girls you like.
For this current season?
Yeah. So there's Rachel, there's Danielle, there's Jen Fessler.
Oh, okay. Rachel grew on me so much from the beginning of the season to now. I really like
her. I think she's genuine.
I think the storyline with her adopting her, I don't know if the adoption went through,
but her son.
That was really, I don't know, I really liked her.
Jen Fessler was a slow burn for me, but I really appreciate her.
And then who's the other new one in Jersey?
Danielle.
Danielle, the blonde, kind of like loud one.
She's a little bit louder in your face.
I think she's funny.
I think she makes good TV.
I felt bad for her last season.
I don't know how it shakes out in this season.
I think she got a little bit of a pile on last season.
Yeah. You know what? She actually, the fans loved her. The fans loved her. I feel like
this season that you haven't watched yet, she gets it hard this season. I feel like
she...
Really?
Yes. The first season is one thing and the second season is always another. I feel like
she feels like she went through it this season a little bit. So yeah, you can never judge the first season of A Housewife
ever. Like you can never judge what they're going to be because I've been wrong every
time after someone's first season. I was hated. Like I was the evil. You were so hated. The
first season I came on, it was like I was the most hated human.
I was like the evil sister-in-law that was only money hungry and would leave the husband
and all of these things and why, who is she?
She must be a whore.
Then everyone got to know me and everyone was like, what?
There's nothing of the sort.
But that's what was put out into the world the first season.
It is a 180. It is a full 180 usually.
Jack, wait, I heard you're a huge fan of the Golden Bachelor.
Oh yeah. Well, I'm not like a huge Bravo person. I casually watched Vanderpump Rules and I casually
watched Summer House, summer house.
But then of course in scandal ball.
And then now with like the Lindsay and Carl fiasco, I'm like back on to both of those
things.
But yeah, I'm a bachelor girl, like through and through.
You love watching heartbreak.
Yeah.
Well, I'm like, show her a breakup.
She's in, I need a lot.
I need, I need real.
I'm a huge fan of need love. I need real.
I'm a huge fan of reality TV, but it has to be like a dating, like dating has to be in
the forefront.
So I'm like, love is blind, 90 day fiance married at first sight.
Like I'm like that kind of girl.
You want all the lovers things you like loving.
I want to watch the love.
Yes.
Oh my God.
I do everything but the boats.
No, you don't wait. Yes. Oh my God. I do everything but the boats. No.
Wait, wait.
Can I tell you?
I don't either.
And it's the number one rated show on Bravo.
We're going to have to start doing boats because people are like, after I went to Bravo Con,
I got so many messages from our Lady Gang fans that were like, does this mean we can
have a blow deck person on Lady Gang?
Because we have Housewives all the time.
Don't they swap out the cast like every season though?
There's like the captains.
There's people that stick around like for multiple seasons. I really like the boat.
I was a late entry to the boats, but I really like them. I think they're really good.
I love that one calling it the boat.
Calling it the boat.
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All right. So I want to play a little game with you guys before I let you go. It's going
to be called like getting to know the gang. Okay. So we're going to go around with you
guys, Becca, Jack, and then Kelty. Okay. So what is something you're certain you'll never do in life? Like
what is the one thing you know this is never happening? Skydive. Oh my God. You're still
mine. That's my answer. I'm the only bitch that's skydiving in this. Jack's done it.
You have not skydived. I've skydived and bungee jumped. Holy shit. Can I just tell you, I decided when I just flew back from Buffalo from the
world's largest disco and we were taking off and I had a moment to look out the window
and I said, could you imagine skydivers right now? They literally would just, cause it wasn't
that high up yet, but it was high up enough where I was like, so right now you're telling
me they're just like, okay, I'm going to jump and hope that when I pull this little thing, it saves
my life.
Like, are you insane?
It's like crazy.
I will say I'll never do it again.
I just like needed to do it just so I said that I have done it, but like it is pretty
damn terrifying, but bungee jumping is scarier because skydiving you just
like kind of have like your there's no awareness of like how far you are up there or like what's
happening.
But when you're bungee jumping, I bungee jumped off a cliff once and you like you feel yourself
like diving down into that cliff.
So they're they're both pretty scary.
I mean, what if you have like a brain?
What if your brain gets so what if you pass out because you got so
nervous that you literally can't focus and like you go lightheaded and you don't pull
the thing? Oh, well, I was attached to somebody. Oh, all right. Yeah, somebody else like does
it for you. There's no way I would ever do that. That is that's terrifying. So I don't
know. Wow. I okay. Okay, good. So tell me girls, what makes you different from most
people each and every one of you? What makes you different? Oh my god. Becca, what makes you different?
Oh god, something besides the fact that you want to be modest all the time. Well, I mean,
I think I'm pretty that kind of is different. I shop for religious clothing and I'm not religious. Yeah, there you go. Kelty, anything?
God, there's a lot with Kelty.
She's a different kind of girl.
I think for me, I am an incredibly social person who has all the jobs in talking to
people, but I actually really hate people and I don't want to be friends with anyone.
That makes you different.
I like it.
It's true.
I feel similar.
Go ahead.
I've ever met another girl in my life who has had more of an obsession with Jersey
mics than I have.
So that's how I'm.
Yeah.
She loves.
I'm your girl.
I'm your girl.
I die for Jersey Mike subs.
I die for them. I do. what do you get on yours Melissa?
So I don't do cheese
So I just do turkey lettuce tomato salt pepper oregano and vinegar a little extra vinegar
Interesting let me just tell you I know it doesn't sound special, but there is nothing like biting into that thing
It's the most incredible sandwich you ever had.
I think it would be my last meal. Like I really do. I've had a conversation with about this
recently with my husband and I'm like that, I think that's going to be my last thing I
eat in life. If I know I'm going to have it.
Well, don't get it from the LAX airport because every time I've had Jersey Mike's at the LAX
airport, it's stale bread.
It's stale bread at LAX.
Well, airport food sucks. You can't have that.
It's true.
I mean, it's still better than most.
But like they would think like as it, and also that Jersey It's still better than most.
You would think like as, and also that Jersey Mike's, there's nothing else like that good
around. You really only have one option at Jersey Mike's. You would think that they would
make it a special Jersey Mike's.
They don't have to.
It's spectacular.
They don't have to. It's the best.
I love that Jersey Mike's is worldwide. Okay. So this one's a little bit dark, but I saw this on Instagram and I thought
this was like a really interesting question for each of you can answer. But would you rather know
when you're going to die or how you're going to die? Like which one? Melissa? Sorry, but like,
I really want to know because I was thinking about it. And'm like I don't know if I know the answer to that like what I want to know when it's gonna happen or how it's gonna happen
Well, you have to pick one. I don't want either. I don't want either. I
Know but if you had to I would say how I'm gonna die. I want to know how if you know how you're going to die
Depending on what it is. You could kind of know when you're going to die, depending on what it is, you could kind of know when you're going to die.
True. I guess, but if they say car accident. They're like childbirth.
Oh, shit. Sorry, I got so dark. This is so dark. This is a crazy question.
This is a crazy question, but really if you think about it, it's like, damn. I don't want to know
either. That's like the- No, I think I'd rather just know when because if I knew how, I wouldn't get in a car if
they tell me one day, we don't know when, but you're going to die in a car accident.
One day, at least tell me you're going to die in 2056 so that I can chill until then.
I think you can go skydiving and know you're not going to die. That's what I would do.
I'd do all the risky ass things. I want to know when because we're at the age
where we're all saving for retirement. Oh, yes. And that nest egg I have is like, you
know, it's like it's getting up there because I'm going to retire, you know, at some point.
And it's way more than I had in my 20s. And so I'm like, I want to know when because if
I'm going to die in 10 years, I'm not saving to live until I'm 85.
I'm going crazy, net jets.
I'm never flying on JetBlue, Comfort Plus again.
You're going mint, baby.
You're going all mint.
We're going mint, baby.
Yeah, for sure.
All right.
You guys can answer this together.
I want to know about you guys a little bit.
Who's the most likely to get canceled out of all of you? Who would accidentally get canceled? Kelty. Kelty. Yeah. For sure.
Who's the quickest to get angry? Me. Becca. Becca? Uh-huh. Who's the quickest to forgive?
Neither one of us. We're still very angry about things that happened. No, I feel like we all are.
We are.
We are.
We are.
We are.
Yeah, we move past things pretty quickly.
We go past very quickly, yeah.
Yeah, you guys, you're a bunch of girls working together, talking about things all day.
You must know how to work it out.
Yeah.
I mean, if you ever do get into a fight, who's usually started it?
If you ever get into an argument over something or disagreement, who usually starts it?
It's usually Becca bringing it up over something Kelsey did.
Yeah, it's usually me addressing something that Kelsey did or said.
Yeah, 100%.
But again, if I didn't get so angry, I probably wouldn't even need to address it.
So it's like, you know, it's I'm taking ownership here.
Exactly.
Okay.
And who is the most housewifey out of all of you?
Who's the domestic girl in the group?
Becca. Probably me. I mean, I'm the only one with
a child and you're sort of forced into it once you have a kid.
Yeah, you have no choice. Domestication. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I think Becca would be a great housewife. I think Jack will never be on TV
again. I think I would be a great housewife because I would really do the costuming well.
I would really give you a look.
She would.
She would give you a look.
She would give you a moment.
I'd give you an Erika Jayne every day, but also I don't think I have enough going on
or friends in my life to have you a housewife.
No, you would have to hire friends.
Yeah.
Kelty doesn't gossip.
We try to get Kelty to gossip all of the time and she just refuses to do it.
Incapable.
Incapable.
Really? I feel we could get off this
Melissa we could get off this interview and I could call Kelty and say oh my gosh. Did you know Melissa?
What's the craziest fucking thing you could ever and help you would be like oh cool
I gotta go and she'd hang up like she really you're not a gossiper at all
No, no, it's no. I wonder why.
She's missing the chip of whatever that is to be a lady.
Yeah.
Really?
It's so weird because-
I tried to gossip once and Becca did the same. I wanted to gossip about something that happened
recently and I was like, hi. I preempted and said, I need to gossip. Here's what I would
like to gossip about. Here's the topic. And then Becca did what I do normally, which is like, it was great. They love each
other and everyone's happy. And then I was like, is this what it feels like when they
try to gossip with me? Because it was so unstimulating, unfulfilling. I was like, this is why I don't
gossip because there's nothing.
Well, it wasn't a gossipable event. If you ask me about something that's actually gossip worthy, I'm gonna provide for you,
but I'm not gonna embellish what's not there.
Right.
You know?
I would think Kelty's so gossipy.
I'm in shock over this.
I know everyone's secrets.
I know all the stuff before it happens, you know, like pop culture wise.
I know where all the affairs are, all the
divorces on a Friday afternoon after TMZ tapes. Like I know exactly how every, I know, I know
who's calling the paparazzi. I can see the name by the paparazzi when it goes up on splash.
If it was a call like Emily Ratajtowski, I know you're calling elder every day. What
is elder elders of paparazzi in New York and he gets
her every day walking the dog. And I swear to God, like every... And I can see on Splash...
I know him as well. I know. I've called elder tons. Like I'm not saying I haven't called
elder. Like I call elder, you know, sometimes when I go to New York... I love that we're
calling him by his first name. You know, he's going to be so excited. But like I can tell on Splash, like which are, and by the way, 95% of paparazzi photos
are called paparazzi photos.
It's impossible.
It would be humanly impossible for these people.
If you're not at Taylor Swift's house or coming, walking into a movie premiere, it's impossible
for these people to know where you are, at what time.
They would make no money because they would sit outside wherever they, whatever hotel they were.
For hours and hours and hours.
Hoping someone came. The studios are giving you a heads up. Emma Stone is going to be
here today because she's doing a press junket at the Crosby Hotel. That's why there's
10 paparazzis outside. Other than GMA Today Show and Taylor Swift's house, everything
mostly in New York is a paparazzi call. But anyway, we're in a test.
I agree with you on that. I agree with you on that. Girls, this has been so much fun.
You are like the best Lady Gang going. I'd love to be part of your little Lady Gang today.
Thank you so much for being on this lady today. You need to come on the podcast.
I do. Let's schedule that. And for all my listeners, make sure you guys listen to the
Lady Gang podcast on podcast one. They're awesome. These are a great group of girls and you heard them. They're down to earth.
I love them all. Wait, what do we do? A triple snap and a Z formation? Oh, isn't that how
we end it? That is great. Thanks guys. We I appreciate you. Bye. Love you all. Bye. Bye. Bye. Hi, I'm Lauren.
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