On Display with Melissa Gorga - Rumor Has It (w/ Deuxmoi)
Episode Date: May 18, 2023Melissa is joined by the queen of celebrity gossip, Deuxmoi, to talk about all the latest juice in and outside the world of Bravo; from secret open marriages, to crazy rumors about Melissa, to the thi...ngs that are not-so-hidden under the rug. Deuxmoi also tells us how she got her start, how she spots a planted story from a mile away, and how she surprisingly goes out of her way to protect the celebrities she hears about. This week's sponsors: Apartments.com - The Place to Find a Place: apartments.com Liquid IV - Hydration Multiplier: liquidiv.com, promo code: MELISSA (20% off) PlutoTV - Stream Now, Pay Never: pluto.tv
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There is a housewife rumor that
somebody has an open marriage and
I need to know who it is.
Hey everyone, it's me Melissa
Gorga. Thanks so much for coming
back to on display this morning.
I hope all you mothers out there had the best mother's day weekend. I had a really great
weekend. It was actually very low key. I went down to my
sure house. We spent the night down there. And then we saw my sisters the
next day. We were just like hanging by her pool in the backyard with my mom,
my sisters and all the little babies. You guys know I have like a huge family.
I always have.
I think about it from when I was young,
and I'm like, I have always had such a large family
of like cousins and aunts and uncles.
It's like never a dull moment when, when we're with my family.
There's always so many people around.
But anyway, we had a really, really good,
we had a really good mother's day.
Low key, we needed it because we've been running around like crazy.
I don't know if you guys saw, I know so many of you reach out to me on Instagram about
Antonia choosing Delaware, the University of Delaware. So that was super excited this weekend
because you know, she chose what college she wants to go to and she had so many to pick from.
I was so impressed with her because she, she really did get she wants to go to and she had so many to pick from. I was so impressed
with her because she really did get into so many great colleges. She got into Rucker, she got into
Penn State, she got into Tampa, she got into Charleston or South Carolina, all of the like so many,
I can't even remember half of them, but she loved Delaware. She we went to visit it. It was so like quaint and charming and two and a half
hours away, which I kind of like because it's for it's far enough
away where she's not going to be coming home every day to like bring me
her laundry, but it's close enough that if I need to get to her and we need to
get her home, we can we don't have to jump on a plane, right? So I'm
actually really, really, really excited
about that for her.
And she's so ecstatic.
I can't believe that I have a senior.
I don't even know like how to even explain the feeling.
And you know what?
I don't think it's really hit me much
that this is all happening until I did this bed party
that you guys saw on Instagram, which is like the new thing
that like all the moms
are doing, I guess, you know, the kids really do it for their friends also. So all of the
kids get something with the logo on it from the from the college they picked like the sweat
pants or the hat or whatever it might be. And they come and they put everything on the
bed. And it's just like a surprise party to just announce, you know, everything's for
social media guys these days,
right?
It's crazy.
I'm like, what is this now that we're doing a bed party?
I actually had one of the moms text me today
and we're like, are we decorating the seniors cars on Friday?
I'm like, huh?
What?
I just decorated a bed.
Now we're going to decorate the cars for the college.
There's just like so many things that we didn't do
back in the day.
But I do want to say this real quick
It did not hit me that my child is really gonna leave and like not be home by the end of August and
Until I went to write that Instagram caption when she had the bed party this weekend
I started to write it and I started
Sobing but I couldn't believe it Like the tears were running down my face. It just made
it so real that it was actually going to happen and that she was going to leave and she's moving out
of my house and you know, I really I just want to say this to Antonia if you're out there and you're
listening that I love you so much. I am so proud of you. Your father and I could not be more proud of the human
you are, of the lady you are, of the good person you are, and how hard you had to study and
try to get into all these places. I know it doesn't come easy for you and you work really,
really hard for it. And I love you for that. And I am just so proud of you. So moving on
from all my personal stuff
because I don't wanna start crying again,
I have an awesome guest for you guys today.
She's the queen of celebrity gossip.
She's the host of the podcast Do You.
And she's the author of one of the best books
from last year, A Non-Please.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have with me,
Do Moaaah! Hey girl! I'm not a non-please ladies and gentlemen. I have with me do
wah. Hey girl. I'm Melissa Gorgah. Thank you so much. I'm so
excited. I'm like dying. I told all my friends. Like because
we're all such huge housewife, New Jersey housewife fans,
like from day one, like I'm talking like, Carolina and
Manzo, Dean of Man, like I know it all.
I've been there since day one with you.
Like I am so excited to talk to you.
All my friends are so jealous.
Now we hear, I love it.
Yeah, I know.
Wait, I have to ask you,
is there a housewife's podcast war going on right now?
And how do we like, we get your podcasts in on the war now?
Like is there like anything we could say to like get you in on the war now. Like, is there like anything we could say
to like get you in on the war?
I think there's like a little war going on.
Have you heard about that?
You know what it is?
So let me just tell you, a lot of these housewives,
they use their podcast right to get that like,
you know, to get the headlines
so that people click and listen and do the whole thing.
I try not listen.
I do that all day long. I do that for a living right when we're on the show. I try to separate my podcast a little bit from being like complete, complete gossip because you know what I talk about health. I talk about fitness. I try to give you like the unfiltered Melissa Gorga that's like outsides sometimes of the real housewives of New Jersey.
And, you know, I try to be educational sometimes. But no, I know what you're saying. They do
go to war sometimes. But I actually enjoy, and I always listen on every podcast. We're
touching on the real housewives of New Jersey. We're talking gossip. You know, there's definitely
definitely some podcasts more than others that I do.
But overall, I don't like to get into like the nitty gritty, really dirty atmosphere that I have to do for Bravo. Does that make sense?
Yeah, that makes total sense. Like I saw the headline about Tamara and Teddy and also like I kind of have like a little beep with Tamara because she canceled on my live Spotify show an hour before she was supposed to go on.
Did she really? Yeah, she canceled an hour before she was supposed to go on and
then she ghosted my producers. That's so weird and they're Spotify. It's like why are you
why are you like being so unprofessional with Spotify? It's not like it was like me myself producing the show.
It was like a Spotify show and she ghosted my producers.
She said she had an emergency totally fine,
and understandable, but like don't ghost the producers.
Right.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes, I'm shocked because I've done actually a bunch of things
with her.
I've done commercials with her. I mean, I've been on her podcast a couple of times.
She's been online.
I've done, I've just throughout the years of being on housewives.
And she's always been actually easy to work with and professional.
So I'm in shock that that happened.
That's so weird and odd.
It left a really bad taste to my mouth.
And I have to tell you like, obviously doing what I do,
I've come in contact with a lot of different housewives from a lot of different cities and she is like the only one that has left like a really bad taste in my mouth because of that like everyone else has been so nice all the New Jersey girls are so nice.
Like I don't know how they are with the other accounts, but there's so every, all of them, even the people that aren't fan favorite,
favorites, I don't wanna name names,
but like, yes, yes.
You know, there's so no one known for that.
We're known, we are known to be easy to work with
to Jersey girls, believe it or not.
We are, I think anyone at Bravo would say that
we're the most polite and the most easy to work with.
Is that crazy?
No, I don't think that's crazy at all.
And I actually agree with you because like I also get
obviously in my position like so much gossip about production
and the different cities and the different shows.
And I would agree with that.
Like I don't get that much about New Jersey.
Just if there was a scandal, then like my emails
will start revving up.
But on the off season and like just random stuff, I don't get that much stuff about New Jersey.
Yeah, because I'm going to ask you, you know, that's coming.
You know, and as far as the podcast go, you know, listen, if someone starts a war with me, like, I'm going to finish it,
and I'm going to use this podcast to like, answer it and finish the war,
but I'm not trying to like,
purposely jump into the mud, right?
Because I feel like there's a fine line.
Yeah, I feel like, listen, like I,
Teddy Melon Camp is a nice lady.
I told you my beef with Tamara,
but I feel like they're always like,
they're always out there like, Tusslein.
They're always Tusslein with like the girls.
And it's like, I guess like good for that.
I'm like, if that's what you need to do to, you know, get your podcast in the headlines,
like keep doing it.
But I don't know.
It's just like so weird to me.
Like they started with Theresa and like I didn't really like understand like what that
was all about.
And it's like, I don't know.
It just, it seems like very odd.
And then you have Bethany Franklin, like in the corner, just like like commenting on everything and I don't know like who the hell she's like
blowing over at page six that they put her like on
on every single headline. She literally sneezes and they're like right in
article about it. I asked them once too I was like what do this Bethany
Franklin have with you guys and they And they were like, our readers just really like reading about her.
Like, she doesn't have a deal.
Like, they generally are interested in like things that she has to say.
And it's just so wild to me because she does the littlest things.
Basically, what I'm trying to say, yeah, is like, I wish other housewives
would be in the headlines.
Like, where's Dolores Catania?
Like, why can't we get a Dolores Catania?
Like page six article.
I know. You know what? I feel like page six does a lot with me also for some reason.
And I'm not saying it's always good either.
Like every time I turn around, I'm like, really?
Like, every time I turn around.
And I think Jersey, the Jersey girls, I believe really self for
them to be honest, because it's, it's, we're constantly on page 6, like all the time.
So I don't know, I, oh, listen, what I do know and what I want my listeners to know, you
really are the queen, by the way, of celebrity gossip. And you always seem to be in the
know, because if anyone doesn't know out there, there is an
amazing Instagram account.
It's to you.
Right.
And so she will get anonymous like just like what messages anonymous messages giving
her the latest gossip, the latest news, telling her where celebs are dining where they're
eating, where they saw someone kissing in the corner who's doing cocaine on the table in the back room, who's fired, who's not fired.
Like, you get all the juicy gossip.
I need to know before we get into all of this, okay, how did this start for you?
Like how do I need to know how this got started?
Okay, so it started really the same way.
A lot of people in my position right now
has started, which was during quarantine.
When we were all, I had a job, I had a career.
I've had a career in fashion for many, many years
and I live in New York City
and all of New York City was ordered to stay home from work.
And then people started getting fired and companies started laying off large quantities
of employees.
And I was at home terrified of the future.
I was like, what's going to happen?
What's going to happen to our lives?
What's going to happen to New York City?
What's going to happen to the fashion industry?
So as a distraction,
I turned to an old Instagram account that I had. It had about 35,000 followers. It was an Instagram
account that I started back in 2013 had nothing to do with celebrity gossip. And because I was home and
I needed a distraction, I posted to those 35,000 followers, like, why don't you guys send in any
celebrity anecdotes or like encounters that you've had over the years? Like, and people were sending
and stuff that happened five years ago, 10 years ago. It wasn't like it is now. It wasn't breaking news.
It wasn't like, you know, who's dying at what restaurant or who's dating you because everyone was home. So there wasn't any,
you know, who's dying at what restaurant or who's dating him because everyone was home.
So there wasn't any, there wasn't a new news cycle.
So people were just sharing stories
of their encounters with celebrities over the years
and it just caught on.
People were also home alone and bored and not working
and you know, they needed something to do.
So they were reading my Instagram account.
They were submitting stories
and that's literally how it started.
And then as quarantine was lifted
and the world started going back to normal,
then I started getting the sightings.
It was like Hugh Jackman's spotted at Dante
in the West Village, or like Justin Bieber at Bar Pitti.
And I was forcing those sightings
because I wanted people to know that it was like,
okay, to go back out and go to restaurants and go shopping
and the economy was like suffering so bad during that time.
I mean, it still is, but like specifically,
like restaurants were shutting down left and right.
Retail stores were just closing like blocks in New York City
were like shut down.
So I was like, wow,
like maybe if I post these sightings and show people that it's, you know, safe to go
to restaurants again, because celebrities are going, you know, people will feel comfortable
dining out. And that's how sightings started. And then people just kept, the more I kept
posting, the more people kept sending in. And that was literally like two years, three years ago.
So it's been doing this for three years.
And it just turned into a business.
Like as the account grew, I started to get business offers.
I started to get an offer to write a book
and then HBO bought my book
and they're gonna turn it into a one hour drama series,
you know, with the writer's strength.
That's kind of up in the air right now,
but they did buy the rights to the book,
and I'm pleased that you mentioned before.
And the book is a fictional account of everything that I'm explaining right now.
And then I started doing my research.
Yeah, it like it just, you know,
I used it as an opportunity.
I saw an opportunity to start a business literally like that's what I saw.
And I just ran with it.
And I'm like, well, you ran like in the right direction for sure.
Because the fact that you did this over COVID and I'm sure people were just sending like,
Hey, I saw Bon Jovi back in 2010.
And he was rude to me in the line at the bathroom.
It was like things like that, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like I saw Melissa and Joe Gorgah, like in Tom's river, like, you know, in 2018,
and you know, they were so nice.
It was like stuff like that.
Right.
You know, was it anything?
It wasn't anything current at the time.
Like the account really has transformed
and now it is a lot of breaking news
and it is a lot of things that are happening currently
because we're as a society,
we're more back to normal,
but that's not how it started.
And I don't think a lot of people know that.
And I go with the slow.
I go with what the audience wants,
what they wanna know about. If go with what the audience wants, what they want to know about.
If people stop sending me inciting tomorrow,
then not with the stock.
I just go with, you know, what everyone wants to read.
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Yeah, you are literally like right now. So it started like that, right?
But right now you're literally breaking news before TMZ breaks news and
they have hundreds of people working for them. I mean, could you ever imagine
that you were going to be
to go to gossip in this like crazy celebrity world
that there is?
Literally, you will tell us before TMZ tells us
that it's happening.
And to me, that is like, it's baffling.
And I personally know that I would look,
I know you do a lot on Sundays, right?
So like on a Sunday, I feel like you put more out there
or maybe like whatever happened throughout the week,
is that how that goes?
I hold all the sightings for Sundays.
So I hold all like the restaurant hotel,
like shopping sightings for Sundays
so that they're not posting in real time
just out of a safety precaution for celebrities.
So that's why on Sunday, there's so many sightings. But yes,
which is nice because you're not giving it in real time. So you're not letting everyone know,
hey, Julia Roberts right now is sitting at Carbone. No, absolutely not. Yes, no, I definitely
wait. And if it is something like, like for example, like I broke bad bunny and Kendall Jenner dating
because somebody saw them at a private club in LA
making out really on a Saturday night.
And I waited, I waited hours.
Like I was dying to post that one
because I was like, he's now it's like a race, you know,
because it's like TMZ might post it first.
That happens to me a lot.
That that just happens to me with Maddie Healy and Taylor Swift dating entertainment tonight.
I think they were the ones who posted it.
Oh, no, sorry, they posted the break up.
I'm not sure.
Oh, the sun, the sun posted Taylor Swift and Maddie Healy dating.
And I had had it on my podcast.
I recorded it on a Tuesday.
It wasn't coming out till Thursday and the sun posted it on Wednesday.
So now it is like a race, you know, when I get this news, but at the same time I do want to be cognizant of like a celebrities privacy.
I know that sounds ridiculous because I'm like spilling their secrets. secrets, but I do try to be, you know, cognizant of time and where they are. And I don't want
to put anyone in danger. So yeah, it gets stressful. And to your point, I say to my siblings
all the time, I can't believe I'm fucking doing this from my couch and my phone.
They're hard. By the way, I can't either from like everything you're saying to me because
I know it's like a Bible. It's like a damn
Bible the way you love the real house. I said New Jersey. I love Dumas. It's so crazy. It's crazy.
But I have to tell you that's something that I really do love about you that you use discretion
and you're always smart about protecting the safety of the celebs. I mean, that's big of you.
Thank God you're a good human, right? And you probably, I'm sure you've gotten plenty of things that were so absurd that you haven't even
put out there. I'm sure you have. Yeah, I mean, no, I've gotten stuff about you. That's absurd.
I think I will. Oh my God. Come on. I'm sure you get so much about me that there was,
no, there was a period of time and it was around the time I went
on Andy Cohen's radio show like last year or the year before and somebody was sending
in emails about you. I'm not going to say what they were. I'm sure that you've heard
the rumor because I'm sure this person also reached out to the Bravo fan accounts and
there are certain fan accounts that will just post anything.
And I even said to Andy on the radio show, I said, someone is out to get Melissa Gorgah
because they keep sending me this email and it's the same email and they keep sending it
over and over to make sure that I see it because my email gets submitted through an anonymous
website, it gets filtered through my website. It's not direct.
And unless you submit that email, you fill out a form.
And unless you submit that email with the real email address,
I have no idea who sends it.
So this person was sending it over and over
to make sure that I saw it.
And I never posted it because I was like,
this is so crazy.
Like, why are they out to get Melissa Gorga?
No, you don't even know.
I've heard things that like I've seen tick-tocks
that my child is not mine.
Oh, yeah, that's so ridiculous.
People have asked me about that.
I'm like, come on.
No, not mine.
No, I'm sorry.
That he's mine, I guess he's not Joe's maybe.
I don't know about the things that.
And all of my shit is so outlandish.
It's so crazy.
It's like very obvious.
Like you said, that
there's just a group of people or someone out there that just will not stop. And it's
always like down and dirty. And it's weird because it never coincides with like my real
life for like what's going on? It's so far left that it's like crazy, you know, it's so
weird. And it got to the point where I think that I asked a producer.
I'm like, is this true?
Like, why is this person trying to get this information out there?
And the picture was like, no, this is so ridiculous.
And I have to just say, like, I don't know the status
of you and Teresa right now,
but I think that even said this on Andy.
Like, this is not Teresa, like, or, you know,
anyone close to her sending in,
and I can tell by the way it's worded.
That it's not like, I don't even think it's anyone
on the show to be honest.
It's recent.
No, this was last year when they were sending out
the specific piece of information over and over.
Oh, over and over and over.
Yeah, I could tell by the way it's worded.
Sometimes you can tell by the way it's worded. Like sometimes you could tell like,
by the way things are worded,
the type of person that's sending it, if that makes sense.
And just how they're wording it and how they're saying it,
it was just really, really bizarre, really bizarre.
They send from like anonymous emails,
is that goes.
Yes, this particular one,
they sent from anonymous emails.
They never DMed me because, you know, with a DM,
it's kind of like you're having a conversation with someone,
right, you can go back and forth like it's text.
They never DMed me.
They always just submitted it anonymously
through my form on my website.
So I couldn't even like have a conversation
with the person being like, why are you sending this over
and over? like it's so
It's seen so at landish to me and I could tell you off air what it said if you want
But it just was so crazy. Go ahead. Tell me in case like I want to hear
It said that you were having a lesbian affair with one of the producers
We a lesbian affair with a producer on the show. Yeah, with a woman.
Oh, my God.
Are you kidding me right now?
No, I'm dead serious.
That's what I'm saying.
And what they said to you.
Over and over and over and over.
Yeah, they said it like four times in a row or like two times between a couple days
or like in a week, like a couple times. Just to make sure that I see it because I get so many emails this way.
So things get lost. I mean, people have done that before. The standing over and over,
whenever, I mean, that's obviously a red flag when somebody does that. I'm like, okay,
why are you trying to push this? Like, I'm not going to post it. Besides the fact I wasn't
going to post it anyway, but like, I'm definitely not going to post it now that you're like
trying to shove it in my face.
We're so stop-raising.
I mean, that is so absurd, by the way.
It's so ridiculous.
But this is the world I live in.
You know what I mean?
This is what the question is.
I know, but it's so crazy.
Me and a lesbian producer, okay,
that would go over really well with Joe.
And I'm like, I mean, it's crazy.
I know.
That's just probably one of the funniest things
I've ever heard.
Yeah, that's the craziest thing that I've gone
about New Jersey.
That's the craziest thing.
That really.
Yeah, about me.
I'm surprised with all of these new house husbands
and there's a lot of new ones, right?
Because there's a lot of new husbands.
There's Dolores has a new man. There's new house husbands. Because we there's a lot of new ones right because there's a lot of new husbands there's Dolores has a new man there's new house husbands because we got two new girls I mean with
all of these guys you're telling me you don't get any craziness on these guys no I get stuff on the
guys but that that stuff is believable I'm talking about with you like that's yours yours was the
craziest meaning like it was so crazy I didn't believe it. The stuff I get on Louie, that stuff is believable.
There's something off about him.
Let me tell you something.
My favorite parts of housewives are when you and Teresa
are getting along.
I'm not team Teresa or team Melissa.
I'm team you guys getting along.
Anything I say about Louie is not because I don't like Teresa.
I love her.
I just think there's something off about him. So anything I say about it, Louie, is not because I don't like Teresa. Like I love her.
I just think there's something awesome about him.
I don't know if it's just a bad editing. I know people love to blame that, but there's something like not right about him.
Like I was having a conversation with my best friends today and we were like, of course,
Joe Gorgah and him wouldn't get along.
Like there's something like not right.
Like there's something like in his eyes that's like off.
You know, you don't have to say yes or no, but it's very telling when you watch the season.
He's a fucking ticking time bomb.
Yeah, it's like, it's a lot and it was a lot to digest.
I think that in the beginning, I wasn't sure. I always had a little feeling,
something seemed off to me, but I was very open-minded in the beginning. And then as it went on and
went on, I don't think I need to speak. I think you could just keep watching. And when you watch the
finale and the reunion, I think you will be really clear, like super clear. So yeah, yeah, it's a lot
and it's unfortunate. And you know what, I agree with you. I prefer to be getting along with
my sister-in-law. That's Joe's only sister, you know, so for me, that's a sweet spot. That's
where it would be nice, but it takes two or four in this situation and, you know, you can only
take so much, right?
Before it's just so toxic and you try so hard
for so many years, but whatever.
I don't wanna talk about any of that stuff
because, you know, that's like real life
makes me miserable shit.
So I don't wanna talk about that.
No, yeah, I know.
I see it.
You can see like you're generally like
getting so emotional this season.
And yeah, I just, I love when you guys are friends
and like you guys are joking around.
And it's unfortunate, but I do,
I did wanna ask you about Louis
because like it is,
I can't put my finger on like what it is.
Like I don't wanna speak on somebody's mental health,
but that's just like something.
Something, I know.
And you know what, I'll say this.
Now, I'll say this in this day and age,
the more you hide, the more people
feel the need to look under the rug.
And what's under the rug doesn't make any of us feel good.
You know, so it's just that's that.
Oh, right.
Let me ask you this about like,
I know you don't only get like housewives, gossip.
You get major major major celebs gossip like Leonardo DiCaprio and big big huge stars.
You have what is like the biggest gossip that you've ever broke?
Like what is one of your biggest things that you were right about that you told everyone
before and then it came out.
Okay, let me think like recently, bad bunny and Kendall,
Kylie Jenner and Timothy Shalame dating, which some people are still,
you know, not so quick to believe because there hasn't been really been a clear picture of them together, but I can tell you they are 100% dating.
I'm trying to think what else.
I mean, I will tell you that when the account shifted,
when I was talking to you earlier about how it started
and then how it transformed, in 2021 was really when
it started to change and I started to get breaking news.
And in January of 2021 alone,
I think I was the first to report about Olivia Wilde
and Harry Styles dating,
because someone had sent me an blind item
about them attending a wedding together
and then those pop-arazzi pictures were released the next day.
So I posted the blind item
before the pop-arazzi pictures were released. So that was
one thing that I posted first. Zoe Kravitz and Channing Tatum dating posted that in that same month,
Kim and Kanye. I think there were whispers about them getting divorced, but I'm pretty sure that I
was like on the cusp of being one of the first people to start talking about their divorce.
on the cusp of being one of the first people to start talking about their divorce.
What else? I didn't want to be a little bit of on the note of rumored relationships.
What about Tom Brady and Kim Kardashian?
Are you getting anything? Are you hearing anything about this?
Yeah, I mean, well, I talked about it on my podcast last week and I like made a video.
And a lot of people watched it.
So now, of course, like, Page 6 had a report on it today.
Tom reps say that there's nothing romantic going on,
but I will tell you what I heard.
I heard that she was looking for a vacation home
in the Bahamas where he has vacation property
and they were in touch because of that.
So they were talking, you know, I never really,
I never said that they were dating.
And then of course, like, you know,
the internet gets pulled up like a little bit
and then, you know, take it to the next level.
So I had, I had said,
and I think I was one of the first people to say,
they were talking, they were texting,
they were talking about this vacation property,
about what it would look like.
She was helping him, he was helping her.
He had told someone in his life when they asked,
like, hmm, what's going on with you and Kim?
He kind of was like, you know, gave them like Diaz,
like, no, you know, she's nice and she's hot
and she, you know, she, we have a lot in common.
I think he said that they had a lot in common.
And that's all I reported.
And then that spun into dating rumors. then of course page six put something out today
Tom's reps said that there's nothing romantic going on between them
But I never really thought that there was anything a hundred percent romantic
I think maybe they're both single this is the thing people don't realize that like
celebrities are just like us you know you need a guy you guy, you start flirting, exchange numbers, that doesn't
mean you're dating, that doesn't mean your boyfriend and
girlfriend. Do you know what I mean? They do the same things
celebrities that we do like that. I know this. And a lot of
people don't think that they think it's like, you know, they're
insecure, they date, they look to they think someone's hot, just
the way the next person does, right? It's like the same, it's the same vibe.
I don't know that I can see the two of them together though.
I don't know why.
Maybe because she's just like different than Jezelle, right?
So like, I don't know what his type is.
But they're just, I don't know that if I can see them together, can you, what do you think?
I think that they're both business people.
I think that they're both parents, hard workers.
And yeah, and I, I don't know.
Why do I want to say Tom Brady's religious?
You know, the Kardashians are very religious.
Right.
Tom Brady religious, I don't know if he is.
That might be something else they have in common.
I don't know.
Yeah, I say why not?
Like why wouldn't they?
You know, have fun or go on or go on or go on or go on between him and Reese Witherspoon about a month ago. I reported on that
and her, her publicist was very quick to shoot that down and she to even go as far as to say they
never met. Now they've met. I mean, give me a break. They also own vacation homes near each other
and they also, I think, belong
to the same country club in Brentwood or something like that. So they've met. But maybe
it was the same thing. You know, maybe like they had met. They were texting. That doesn't
mean they're dating or that they're boyfriend and girlfriend. It's just like when people
hear these things about celebrities, they go from zero to a hundred. And it's not always
like that. They think they're like a couple within two seconds.
Like they're probably the up and dating.
Exactly.
Right.
So if they even want to like go further
and we automatically want to make them a couple
like within seconds.
Exactly.
So yeah.
So if Tom and Kim were doing that, 100% I believe that.
So for his rep to go on record and say,
they're not romantically involved, that also could be true. Both could be true. Do you
know what I mean? So it's like you just learned how to read past the
headlines and read what they're saying. Not take it for faith value.
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Okay, speaking of all this,
you mentioned that there is a housewife rumor
that somebody has an open marriage
and I need to know who it is.
Oh, I think that was about Kim Zolziak and Troy.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I think that's what that's who it was about. I think somebody had sent me a blind item. Now this wasn't this again, like I was explaining to you earlier, this was sent through my form on my website. So it was sent anonymously. I have no idea who sent it.
that they had hooked up with this housewives husband a couple times.
And they've hooked up with someone outside of the like they've hooked up together with someone else. Yeah, like this person writing in, hold on, let me, this person writing in to me
said that they had hooked up with a house husband. Oh, wow. And they had suggested that there was an open marriage
and the pseudonym because so people don't use their real names
and real emails, like I was saying.
So they use pseudonyms and fake emails.
And either the pseudonym or the sub to the email
was like wiki wig.
So they were trying to give us hints
that it was about, you know, Kim Zollsayak
is known for her wigs.
Right.
So I don't even know how they would have time
to have multiple sex partners.
They have so many freaking kids.
Oh my God.
I think maybe they were broken.
Maybe they were broken up longer than we know, you know?
I mean, I am shocked still about all of that. And I do think that has to do
with the fact that just like things were going under over there a little bit. And I think it probably
drew a lot of stress to the marriage. And it's just, you know, at the end of the day, it was always
like a big circus with a TV show and lots of kids and activity. And then when things got quiet, I don't know. Maybe they looked at each other and said, shit, like this isn't going to work
out. When it gets quiet is when you really see, like if this really, if the relationship
is going to be there, if it's not, or if you're really into that person, when people are
busy and you're just go, go, go, go, go, go, go. And there's a lot going on in your
famous and you have a hit show on Bravo and you're this and you're that you almost don't have time to like just
sit and look at each other and decide if they were meant to be.
And maybe that's what happened.
I don't know.
I mean, people are also saying that she already has like a new sugar daddy.
So obviously, you know, and plus I haven't gotten that.
I don't, I haven't heard that, but who knows?
And you know, they have tax issues.
So maybe the money ran out. Right.
You know, Kroiden, look as pretty and shiny anymore. Who knows? You know, like, I think that they have a very unconventional
interesting relationship to begin with. I don't know, obviously I'm speaking as someone who doesn't know either of them, but that's just my
interpretation of the relationship as an outsider.
either of them, but that's just my interpretation of the relationship as an outsider.
But this is, let me, I can read you with the message said, it said, this former housewife favorite is in an open marriage. I was hooking up with her husband for a few months on and off.
And the email they used, which is obviously a fake email, don't be tardy at theparty.com.
Well, they, yeah, okay. Yeah, and the they're going to. Exactly. Yeah.
And the pseudonym was wiggy wig.
So this was sent to me back in December of 2022.
And I just posted it thinking like, OK, it's obviously about,
I knew who it was about, but I was like, maybe they're having problems.
And then cut to, you know, four months later, they announced a divorce.
So sometimes this happens where somebody sends in something anonymously
and then it winds up coming true months later.
Now do I think that you're going to come out on the scene with a lesbian relationship?
No, no.
No, a lot of times it also does it happen, but sometimes it happens.
Right.
Listen, I don't know.
I've definitely, I've definitely seed myself on your site Just you mentioning that I was here that I was there that I was at carbon or whatever it was
Do you know at one point? I thought that you were I was like is she a publicist because
Through you is how we found out a lot of like which restaurants we should go to as well
Do you know what I'm saying because I'm like? Oh, who is that that restaurant? It must be good
Like I need to check it out.
Does everyone do that?
Oh, I'm done.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't know other celebrities did it,
but yeah, well, my followers do it.
Yeah, that's another reason why I do Sunday's spotted
is so people can know where to go.
And I will give your podcast a hot tips,
sneak peek.
I have a big project coming out this fall that revolves all around
restaurants and celebrities that's going to make it a lot easier for
people to do exactly what you're saying to find a restaurant, see
what celebrities have been there and be able to go to that restaurant.
So stay tuned everyone.
I love that.
That's awesome.
Because you're literally you're like creating
hotspots and you're showing people the it places to go because if you're saying, oh Kylie just left
here or Kendall just left here or you know Kim and Kanye this and that they were eating dinner
here. Then you know for people who are out there that might not know these city restaurants or
these LA restaurants are there. You know they're like, oh, let's go here
because I'm sure they have problems getting in.
It's not always easy to get these residents, right?
But it's a really great advertisement
for what a good hotspot restaurant to go to.
So I know a lot of friends that will look at your site
and then be like, oh, let's try this restaurant.
So I love that.
You're like a restaurant tour.
You know what I learned?
You know what restaurant I learned from you, like through COVID?
A American bar.
I saw American bar.
I saw a lot of people went there and then I love Kyle.
Now I know the owner and I love him.
He's so sweet.
I love Kyle.
I love Kyle.
He's awesome.
I love it there.
I love him.
So do you get like just like getting back to you?
Do you get a lot of, is there anything out like,
obviously you didn't give up the tip about me.
So there when you get them and they're like super crazy
and you know, they're not true, you won't say it.
Exactly. Exactly. I mean, I'm not,
I'm not in the business of spreading misinformation.
Just stuff I post, turn out to be total bullshit
and not true, yes, of course.
I'm not a fortune teller, I'm not a psychic.
I don't know everything that people send me anonymously
if it's true or not.
Sometimes I take that chance,
but I try to post low-states gossip in that case.
Something that's not gonna be harmful to somebody.
Unless I know that as much as I can know
that something's true, yeah, I would never post that about you.
Ever, and also, I do have to say,
like, back to what I was saying about Tamra,
like, I'm a fan, so there's definitely people
that I personally like, so it's very hard
for me to post negative things about those celebrities or those people like.
Yes, it's really hard for me to post about those people and I do want to be fair because sometimes
somebody will send me an encounter they had with a celebrity and they're really upset or if they
work with a celebrity that was so horrible and I do want to be fair. I don't want to shut them out because I like that celebrity.
A perfect example of this is Blake Liveley.
I love Blake Liveley.
I'm a huge gossip girl fan.
People sent me negative stuff about her,
but it's really hard for me to post it.
And the same thing happens with the housewives.
Like I have my favorite housewives, cities.
I have my favorite housewives.
I've been fan of for how long have you been on decades?
Deck like 15 years. How long have you been on the housewives?
13 year. I started in I started filming in 2010. My son was two months old. He's 13. So 13. That's so crazy. 13 years. It's insanity. Yeah. So it's like you grew like in a way like how you're growing up on TV. People have you know grown up
So it's like you grew like in a way like how you're growing up on TV people have you know grown up watching you and it's like you know a comfort show the housewives franchises a comfort show for a lot of people like there's a lot of times where I'll put it on just to have like noise in the background, you know to hear here here you guys have, so is there any celeb as anyone ever DMs you or like reach out to you through their PR team and like yell that you were screaming or told you to take
it down?
Um, yes, but never yell or scream.
They're always really, really nice.
Yeah, so that's a couple times.
Yeah, it hasn't happened a lot a couple times.
I will tell you it's funny that you asked that because the housewife
wives producers they'll message me a lot and they'll be like that's total bullshit. It usually has to do with casting stuff or like you know who's fired and who's not. But you know and people
anonymous people love to get the audience riled up over those rumors. So once in a while, even though I know something
like might not be true, if it's so-and-so is asked
or so-and-so won't be back, I'll post it.
And then the producers will always be like,
this is so wrong.
This is so fake.
This is so fake.
And I like a lot of these new New York.
Yeah, yeah, this is so crazy.
Well, listen, do you get any casting rumors
about the real high size of New Jersey?
And the truth is, I know, I know the truth about it.
I'm just curious.
Yeah.
No, I mean, not lately, when, before you guys started this season, I did, I thought that
um, Tiki Barber's wife was going to be on more.
I thought she was going to be a housewife.
I got that a lot.
Okay.
Um, I don't, I don't think I got, I have to remember.
I think maybe everyone knew that what's her name,
the blonde was gonna be a friend of Jackie,
that she was gonna be, is she, if she's a friend of, right?
She's not.
She's a friend of now, yes.
Yes, I think people, I think we knew that.
I didn't know about the two new girls.
And I have to ask you, like, how do you feel about having people that are
from Staten Island on the Housewives of New Jersey?
You know, first of all, Jackie is also from Staten Island.
So it's like, you know that.
She is originally and now Danielle.
And I hear like, sometimes Danielle, when she gets mad,
or I think you're going to really see it on the finale this this this episode.
She I mean this that an island or whatever you want to call it like really comes out.
And sometimes I'm like, okay, this is it's a Jersey show.
It's got to I like it to be authentic Jersey, right?
But it can't always be that because like, look, even in New York, they have this new cast and the girls are from so many, they're from everywhere, you know what I mean? So I guess it is what it is. And at this point at this stage in the game, it's not easy for Jersey to find housewives.
I'm just going to say that very open and honestly, like it is one of the hardest things to do. So it's just, it's a scary franchise to join. A lot of people are worthy
and want it, but they won't do it with, they won't be casted with certain cast members that we have.
They're like, I'm not working with her. I don't want to jump on the show. Like, it's a very,
very hard show to cast. So we're just grateful when we find, or when Bravo finds any girls that kind of get in there and that are comfortable and not completely taken back because it's just a strong, you know, it's a very strong family show and obviously Theresa and I kind of find your own way in there, right? So we're always happy to get new people in, but it's a weird thing for me.
I'm still getting to know,
I mean, I knew one of the new girls from my son,
they were friends, our sons are friends.
The other one, I'm still trying to get to know her.
I get a little frustrated when people
don't pave their own way and they get intimidated
or they don't speak up or I almost feel like they speak
up to please someone but then they'll have a private relationship with me on the side to me that's
weak. So I'm not gonna, I'm still trying to figure it all out. I'm so I feel like I need another season
with all of the new girls to see what I
feel about them. One season's
never enough because you're
just getting to know them.
They don't say too much in the
beginning because they're worried
about how they're going to look
or how they're perceived and
they're a little bit more cautious
like getting their feet wet.
But I feel like you get to really know a new housewife in season two. That's when like the gloves come off and you see who these people are. So I always get excited for their second season, not
their first. Wait, so you knew Rachel? I knew Rachel. Yes. So are we living in town?
Yeah. Yes. She's very smart. She's sassy. We live in the same town. Our kids are best
friends. You know, my son, Gino and her son that she just adopted on the show,
our best friends. And, you know, we live by each other, we have surehouses by each other,
our husbands, our friends. So we actually have like a legit real connection with each other,
which is good. Yeah, I like her. I like, I wasn't sure about her at first because, again,
with like the whole satin island thing, like I know you're saying like, yeah, like New York has
people from all over, but that's different,
because I feel like New York is notoriously
a melting pot of different cultures and people,
but New Jersey, you want Jersey girls.
Do you know what I mean?
And like,
You do, because there's something in the water in Jersey.
There's a specific girl.
Yeah, it definitely is.
And Staten Island is not New Jersey.
You know what fence is Staten Island? But it's Jersey. You know offense is Staten Island, like, but it's not New Jersey.
No, but it's a separate thing.
Same with Long Island.
Same with Long Island is not New Jersey.
And they probably feel the same way
about people from New Jersey.
Staten Island of Long Island.
So I just think maybe, yeah, I feel like
unless you're from the tri-state area,
you like don't get it.
So I know you're saying it's hard to cast,
but maybe also like the producers like don't get it because they're not like from this area. But when I first saw the first episode of
the season, I was like, I'm so excited. I love like, why good if they find people from New Jersey?
Yeah, get it's hard to cast. I get it. I get it. But now it's, I mean, listen, it was a great season.
I cannot wait for the finale. I can't
wait to see that. I'm the reunion and the reunion. Oh my God. It was a crazy crazy. Yes,
yes, like beyond. It's three episodes long. It is really, really crazy. So yeah, buckle
up for that. But listen to me, I loved, loved having you on today. You are so much fun. You're so juicy.
Like I really want to see your face and know who you are. I love that
you're secretive. And you don't show anyone, but maybe one day we'll
like meet for a drink. Yeah. Or something. We know we know people
in common. I'll say that. I'll tell you. Okay, well, we'll talk
after. Okay. But definitely keep up all the good work.
We love, love, love reading all of the things on your site.
And you give me like, I'd like to drink my coffee on Sunday morning and see where all
the big celebs went out to dinner and, you know, where they were last night and all the fun things are doing.
So all my listeners, please make sure to check out her podcast. Do you?
It's a great listen and do want if you ever have a Spotify event in the future. Hello, you know,
you can call me. I'm gonna show up for you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. I'm so happy I had you on today. You were awesome. Yeah me too. Thanks. Bye. Bye. I'm gonna do more than just drink and party on this podcast mom.
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