On Display with Melissa Gorga - Thank you Jesus, Margaret Josephs (w/ Margaret Josephs)
Episode Date: October 3, 2024We all need a little more Margaret in our lives, so we got her this week. Melissa invites the one and only, Margaret Josephs, onto the show to talk about all of the off-camera drama with the Real Hous...ewives of Orange County, if she has any regrets about the most recent season of Jersey, and the very honest reason she will never film with certain castmates, ever again. Margaret also gives us a positive update on Joe's recent health scare, and where her new drink Soiree will likely be popping up in the near future. This week's sponsors: Money Crimes with Nicole Lapin - Sometimes, Money Really is Everything: pavestudios.com/shows/money-crimes PlutoTV - Free Streaming TV: Pluto.TV Progressive - "Name-Your-Price" Tool: Progressive.com
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People have to realize everybody's human on the show, regardless of what anybody feels.
It's got to die down.
Look what's happened to Jersey.
Let's all take it down a notch.
What's up everyone?
Welcome to another episode of On Display with your girl Melissa Gorga.
Before we get into today's episode, which you're gonna love, love, love my guests, I'm
so excited about her today. I just wanted to remind you guys all that On Display now
has an Instagram page, so make sure you go and follow it, On Display with Melissa Gorga. Also, I know this is last minute, but tomorrow night I'm going to be
in DC with Karen from Potomac, Lisa Barlow from Salt Lake City, and Dorinda from New
York. So if you want to grab any last minute tickets, go to HousewivesNightOut.com and
come see us in DC tomorrow. I absolutely love DC. And you know what? The four of us girls,
we're going to have so much fun. So if you're in the DC area, come check us out
tomorrow night. Also this weekend, another last minute thing, Joe Gorga and Frank Catania
are going to be at Levity Live. So you can check that out. There's a link in his bio
on Joe's Instagram. They're doing two shows, Friday and Saturday night. So go
check Joe out if you're staying in the New York area. But anyway, let's just get right
into this episode. I'm super excited, guys. She's one of the realest of the Real Housewives
of New Jersey. She's the co-founder of the delicious mocktail brand Sorbet, and a very
close friend who's helped me navigate some of the drama that you guys
see all the time on screen.
So today I have my girl with me, Mrs. Margaret Joseph.
That's right.
You got your soiree queen right here.
I'm so happy to be here.
I haven't been with you since my stepson's wedding.
I know.
It feels like forever.
And I feel like you haven't- Two weeks.
We haven't been together in two weeks.
I know. I've been moving and taking and so have you. I feel like I work now more than
I ever have in my life. I don't know why. I don't know what's happening.
You went on your own world tour. You're going to colleges. You're with Antonia this weekend.
You're all over the place and me too. I feel like I've been so busy with Soiree and everything
else. We're nuts. We're nutty workers. I know. Is it like an Aries thing? Like we're both worker bees. You know what it is?
I just can't say no with people presented and it's the right thing and the right... I'm like,
you know, you have to appreciate work. But we're going to be together for
Pink Aid. You and I will be together October 9th. Yes, Pink Aid.
That's out in Huntington, guys.
Very excited about that.
So if you need a dress for that, make sure you head over to EnvybyMG.com.
Oh, shit.
This is plug day, isn't it, Melu?
Yes, it is.
It is.
Yeah, but there'll be so many people.
That's an awesome event to fight cancer.
Yes, breast cancer.
Pink Aid is a big deal.
So we're doing that together October 9th,
which is very important. So I'm happy about that.
That's at the Paramount, right? That's at the Paramount.
Yes, that's at the Paramount.
Yes. Okay. Huntington. Very excited about that too. At least we'll spend the day there
together. Gee.
Yes, I know, which I can't believe I have to wait to see you for another week. But you
know what? Listen, you're on tour. I've been busy this weekend. We had
our Toro's birthday. You were away. Otherwise, you know, I would have seen you there for
Julius. He threw like a big party and I saw a Tamra.
I know. So I was just going to get right into it with you. I saw your weekend with Julius.
First of all, I love a Toro and I love Julius both. They do amazing hair. Julius, a Toro,
I can't believe he turned 40.
It's like finally Jesus Christ.
Yeah, he's like a child.
He's like, you know, he's like the Mexican Jesus.
He's that gorgeous flowing hair.
He can dance.
He can dance.
He sings.
He's so young still.
I can't believe it.
Julius, it was like, it was like a bar mitzvah.
So if you guys don't know, Julius is the guy who does a lot of the housewives hair.
He started doing my hair 15 years ago.
He does Tamara's hair.
He does Margaret's hair.
He does so many of the girls' hair.
So they were invited to his husband's 40th birthday.
Yeah, and you were away though.
So you were- Yes.
Yes, I was away, but I need to know, okay, so first of all, how's our girl, Tamra Margaret?
I keep, it's so much.
There's a lot going on with her in the press.
I feel bad.
She is very strong and I think people don't realize she is human.
We're human and the attacks are, I think, a little too much.
I understand.
This is a TV show and I think people don't realize
that everyone could have their opinion, but when it gets down to suing and attacking and
the aggression, it upsets me. It hurts my heart. And everyone's like, Marge, why are
you talking to the camera? I'm not turning my back on my girlfriend. I'm not like that.
I'm not going to be like, people are like, don't associate with her this, that. This
is a TV show for entertainment. People have fights. People disagree. You know what I'm
saying? We're not all going to agree with each other. And I am not going to all of a
sudden be like, oh, I'm not talking to a camera again. I don't like what happened on the show.
That's not the way the world works. And I think it's bad. And it's upsetting me. It's upsetting me what's going on on social media with the attacks against
her. People don't have to agree with her. People could be upset with her. But to call to end her
and everywhere, she should be sued and she should lose income and she should be canceled. I don't
go for that at all. No, I agree. I don't think it's right. And you know, we're not just sitting here completely
defending but we all need to remember that she did kind of, I mean, she did bring the
drama this season to the show, which everybody was asking, they wanted her to come back.
All of the fans were asking the camera to come back.
Yeah, listen, they know she's that's her she stirs
the pot. That's what she's good at. That's what she's good at calling people out. And
she's a housewife. She's the epitome of Margaret. She's a lot like you when she has. Right?
I mean, you can take a lot of heat also on the show for things that you'll call out and
that you'll do. I mean, I don't know what advice did you give her? Is she obsessed?
Is she in good spirits? Like, what was she saying?
No, she's a very strong woman. She knows how to navigate everything, but it has to take
a toll. She didn't say this. We were great. She was in a great mood. Her and Eddie are
an amazing strong couple. She has a beautiful marriage. We didn't talk a lot about it, but
I just, I know what it's like. I never... Do you know what it is? Her and
Shannon have a long time friendship. And I think people see that on the show. They don't
like the way she treated Shannon and they could feel that way. You know what I'm saying?
She was very tough love with Shannon and maybe it didn't come across
the way everybody wanted it to. Maybe she could have been gentler, whatever it is. But that's a
longstanding relationship. And I think everybody just has gone for the jugular with her. And that's
why I feel badly, because that is, they do have their own relationship. And I just, everybody's
weighing in. And now this
other thing has come out, this guy wants to sue her. We've had so much on our show. It
has not gone into lawsuits. Well, almost.
Almost. Everybody was really getting antsy, right? Thank God it did not, but everybody
was wanting to.
It got very ugly and people wanted to, but it didn't go that far.
Do you know what I'm saying?
No, it didn't.
When you start suing each other, first of all, guys, learn from the Jersey girls.
Bravo gets pissed.
They do not like this.
They like the drama to stay on camera, not behind the scenes, right?
I don't think that-
I don't like that. And I'm not saying people don't have the right to defend themselves and you can argue it out on the show or whatever it is, but it's too much. I don't like it. I
just don't like that. Listen, our show was as dark as they come and it didn't even get to that level.
Right.
So when it's worth that and people are like, oh, sue her, sue her. This is this is mob
mentality. And it's a gang up and it's upsetting me. And I don't like it is upsetting. I wonder
if she I mean, poor Eddie, he must just be like, this show is just he probably actually
loved the moments that she was for those couple years that she wasn't actually on the show.
He was probably so relieved because I feel like he's just over like he just wants to be with Tamara
and enjoy Tamara. I feel like he's he doesn't want to deal with any of this bullshit.
They're attacking him. They're saying negative things about his business. When it goes into
your business, it just goes to him. And he's a good, he's a good support system. He's a
good man. So I'm just saying people have to realize everybody's human on the show, regardless
of what anybody feels.
Everybody, it's got to die down.
Look what's happened to Jersey.
Let's all take it down a notch.
Agreed.
1000%.
Learn from us, girls.
Everybody just take it for what it's worth.
And obviously we don't know all of the details.
No.
So everybody remember it's a show.
Every player on that show, remember it's a show.
Right.
Exactly. At the end of the day, that's right.
And when you take it off camera, learn from us, it never, it's not, it's not a good thing.
We have enough negativity in the world.
We have a lot of bad things going on.
Let's like focus on the fun shit.
Right.
No, I mean, I hear you.
And there, I feel like there are definitely like complexities in these friendships that
are never really shown on camera. And
everyone needs to like sometimes you just need a break because these shows don't always
tell the full story, right? So not getting the full story even when it comes to her and
Shannon and really how complex their friendship is.
So exactly. I mean, other stuff, you know, listen, there was another undercurrent this
weekend, which I couldn't believe because they're filming that other show, the hotel show.
Oh my God.
Wait, so I was going to ask you that.
Did you see that?
And what's his name?
The guy he would-
Old Kim Booster?
Yes.
Yes.
So I had no idea, by the way, he was hosting Heartbreak Hotel.
I think that's the name of the new show that's coming out, right?
Heartbreak Hotel?
I think so, yes.
I think it is, which by the way, I love that song.
They really need Whitney Houston anthem.
She has a song called Heartbreak Hotel.
That's like the best song in the world.
Like that should be the anthem if they can get that.
If they can get the license for that, go Bravo.
But first of all, like, did you see what he said about Shannon?
Like, what are your thoughts on this, Margaret? I was like, clearly something had happened. Listen, you know, you and I, we love production.
They treat us, you know, they're good people. You can never be being to the producers or,
you know, they work so hard. They're there for hours all day. They're, you know, hustling for you and everything else. Um, I don't know what has
happened or what happened, but clearly something terrible for a
host to be so upset.
He seemed pissed. Like I almost wanted to be like, all right,
what happened? I need to hear this because I mean, eventually,
I guess we're also going to get her side of this story, right? But literally
wrote just because you're a pathetic drunk on a reality
television show, best known for a string of failed
relationships, and a DUI does not make you a star and does
not give you a license to treat the people you work with, like
their subhuman period.
They will make me delete this DM and if you like screenshot it is basically what he's saying.
I mean, them spiting words. I mean, I couldn't believe it. I could not believe it. I was like that.
I was in shock when I saw that because first of all, bravo. I know would never I'm just like what is happening?
How is this going this
far? This is insane. I've never seen someone get so upset and be so upset with talent before,
publicly. I mean, behind the scenes, of course, I've seen it happen, but to publicly
state that about someone. I'm just sitting there there like okay, what could have been that bad?
By the way, isn't that show supposed to be like a fun?
It's a dating show.
So it's not like they're posting them for drama, right?
No, not at all.
It's supposed to be a fun dating show.
I mean, I'm dying to see it.
I want to see you know, I know.
I'm trying to see what happens because you know, Luanne, you know, Luanne's on that show
too.
Oh my god. She's the most fun.
When I went on the Housewives trip with her, she just walks around naked Margaret, similar
to you by the way.
She'll just walk around naked and she's probably getting down and dirty with whatever.
I know.
I mean, I'm looking forward to seeing it.
I mean, this will definitely make people tune in.
Definitely make people tune in.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, I can't wait.
But that was like, I mean, listen, it was a very spicy weekend revolving around the
OC.
It was.
They're definitely like-
We had craziness.
But yeah, so I was very excited.
I was like, oh, you know, I was like, you know, don't piss him off.
She hasn't rebutted what he said yet, right?
Like there's no response from her yet.
No, which is probably good.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think better not to say anything.
It went away, whatever it is, and it has to probably just lay low, die down.
We need the details.
We need the other half to really understand what the hell is going on because-
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All right.
Well, let's talk about you a little bit.
I want to get some info on my Marge.
My people want to be filled in with what's going on. First and foremost, one of the biggest
questions I got was tell us about Joe. I know you just went on Rosanna Scotto. You went
on Fox News giving us an update. He's doing well. How's it going?
Thank you for everybody asking about little baby Joe. Listen, you know what? It's funny
because the show didn't wrap it up, which I thought was weird because usually they wrap up all our stories at the end of the season with
our little, the little blur- We didn't get a wrap up this year. We're
like the redheaded stepchild. What is it called?
Yeah, we didn't get a wrap up. Everyone's like, who gives a shit about these broads?
But anyway, Joe does have first stage prostate cancer, which you do know, but they gave him this
test called the genomic test and that shows how fast it grows and his, thank God, is very
slow growing.
So they don't treat it.
They do something called active surveillance, which is basically they just monitor him to
make sure it doesn't change.
So his might not change for 10 years, which thank God.
So he just gets checked constantly. Like every few
months they do an MRI, they do his blood work, everything else. And as long as it doesn't
change and go outside the prostate or have any significant changes, they're not going
to treat it. If it changes, then he'll have to have treatment, but he's happy with that.
He doesn't... Because the side effects of the treatment aren't good. Men don't need
like any of those kinds of side effects. So he's doing great. So it's very acute. It's very small living
in there. They just are putting a watch on it right now in case something grows. It's
basically what's happening. Yeah, exactly. It's exactly what's happening.
And everybody was very confused about the prostate. No one knows where it is. You got
to go up the butt to find it, but it affects the, as you like
to say, the Pichadelle. Oh yeah, his little Pichadelle. Oh, I know.
You know what, Joe, thank God, he's doing great. So that's what makes me happy.
How is he mentally with it all? He's fine. He's very tough. Joe's very tough. He minimizes everything. Me, I'm a hypochondriac. I've
totally freaked out about everything. No, but he's very good. I try to monitor his health.
The problem is Joe lives on crumb cake, does not eat healthy. Your husband works out, does
everything. Joe does a lot of physical labor. He happens to be in great shape that way,
but he doesn't work out and do all the other stuff. Your husband does physical labor and works out. My husband just, you know, does the physical
work.
Well, I mean, your Joe rides a motorcycle, isn't that-
He does. He does ride a motorcycle. He's very manly. He's very strong, very capable. I mean,
he is 68. He looks great. His hair is still naturally dark, which is shocking.
No, he looks great. He looks so good.
He does look good. He's, you know, very active, so I'm very lucky. I just can't believe I'm still
banging a 68-year-old guy, but that's life.
I love when we start talking about your single days and who you used to bang. You bang some
famous band people and stuff.
I know. I can't believe it. When I look back on my life, it was good. It was exciting,
but now I'm happy. I'm very, you know, I'm very content.
I know I was looking at some music videos the other day.
I was laying on the sofa watching the music videos of my little band days and you know,
those days.
Oh my God.
Now you're better off now.
You're nice and content.
You're in your gorgeous house over there.
I am so happy.
Everything's great.
And you know, my, you know, my dog, Bella, RIP, you know, that was
my favorite family.
I know, little Bella. I know. And now is it true? The rumor's true. Are we getting a new
pup?
We are getting a new puppy. Joe is allergic, not classic rescue, but are getting a dog,
adopted dog that didn't make it in the show ring. She was a show girl that just didn't
make it in the show circuit, kind of like myself. I don't have the good legs, I couldn't
be a rock head. So she is not making it in the show ring.
So we are going to get a little Yorkie, which I'm very excited about.
That's so exciting.
Wait, wasn't Bella a Yorkie as well?
Bella was a Yorkie.
We were very blessed.
It's funny.
We adopted her seven years ago on the show, but they never showed it, which is very bizarre.
And she was like, but we weren't sure how old she was.
You saw, she was so cute, so little.
She was cute.
And, you know, it's funny, I dream about her still when I'm sleeping.
I'm like, oh, don't kick the dog.
Don't do this.
Don't do that.
But Joe's friend, this woman, Kathy Santos, runs like an AKC dog training thing, and she
has access to, you know, dogs that, you know, need a home or don't make it in the show
ring or whatever that they aren't keeping. So we are getting this amazing little puppy.
What is it? A boy or a girl? It's going to be a girl. I'm going to name
her Edie. Wait, what's her name? Edie, like an old lady.
Oh my God, little Edie and Marge. I like it. Exactly, little Edie. Ed. I like it. Yeah, exactly. Little Edie. Edie, like, I don't know, did you watch Grey Gardens? Big
Edie and little Edie? They were on the PBAs. They were laid to Jacqueline Kennedy. People
will know if they watch Grey Gardens. And it was a mother-daughter duo who were very
wealthy. Then they lost all their money, but they lived in this big decaying mansion. And
they wore head scarves. So, you know, and I wear head scarves. So her and I wear matching head scarves. And so it'll be good.
Oh, little Edie. I can't wait to meet little Edie. How long till we get Edie? How long?
Edie will be coming home this week. So I will come home.
Oh my God. So excited.
Yeah, very excited. Someone I, you know, a little sidekick for me to focus on.
All right. Well, that's good. I'm excited about that.
Yes, I'm super thrilled. Very, very excited.
All right, good. I'm happy for you. I feel like I like you a little pup running around
the house.
Yeah, the house is very quiet. We have Nino in the house, who's actually home with strep
throat right now.
Oh, little Nino.
Little Nino's good, but I've no like, you know, I always had a dog with me. It's like
it's very bizarre. My house is super quiet. And it's crazy. It's
weird for me. So I need a dog. I mean, like Nico needs a new
girlfriend.
Yeah, you know what he does this dog so horny. I never had he
has this ball still and you're not supposed to do that. No,
you don't know has balls. He's not supposed to have that he's
supposed to neuter him. Right?
Yes, I know. He never got neutered. But I know that was
probably your husband's idea. He was was like don't cut his balls off.
You know what I just like it went too long. And then we were
like, forget it. So now he just marks his territory everywhere.
We just diaper him like I change diapers as if I have a jam.
I know I see him wearing the diapers. That's the funniest
thing I've ever seen. Now let's talk about you. You've been
doing your cooking videos. Oh, I know. You
know, it's so funny. I can't believe how many people love to
watch us cook. Like it's just like out of nowhere. We're just
like, Oh, let's like, because you know, Joe and I do cook a
lot. We always cook for the kids. Yes. And and I like it.
But I haven't had you know, I don't have as much time I tend
to cook the most in the fall for some reason. I think it's
just fall football season. It's dark
at 430. I'm literally, Margaret, I'm in my pajamas if I can be, if I'm home, makeup is off,
pajamas, sweats by five o'clock. And I actually, the fall is the time in life that I actually
enjoy cooking. You know, like I- No, I know. And you happen to be a great cook. So that's good.
And the people are loving the videos. People are telling me they love the TikTok. They're like, it's a very, you're like a very sexy
cook.
Oh, I am? Oh my God. Okay. So I don't feel like I'm being sexy at all, but maybe I should
wear like a low cut and like lure them in that way to watch, look at my recipe.
I know, look at your recipes and put them out there.
And
No, honestly, we're Joe and I just have fun with it. We do cook all the time, but there won't be as many videos once the holidays pass, but
from now until the holidays, that's all I do.
I cook at night, I'm home early, it's football season, we cook every Sunday.
And I love that people are loving it.
I used to put out cooking videos more often.
I know I showed them my red sauce on Sundays and I don't know.
So you never know what you're going to get from the Gorgas. Sometimes I'm into on Sundays and I don't know. You never know what you're
going to get from the Gorgas. Sometimes I'm into fashion. Sometimes I feel like cooking.
I know. I like it. I like the whole thing. Do we have a cookbook maybe in the future?
No, I have no plans for that right now. No. You can call it sexy Sunday sauce.
Oh my God. Yes, sexy Sunday with the Gorgas.
I love it.
Yeah, Sexy Sunday sauce.
No, as of now, I have nothing in the works.
I mean, you know me, I'm a workaholic.
So if something comes a knock and I can't say I wouldn't do it.
But as of now, I do not have anything in the works.
I'm doing it for fun.
I enjoy it.
And I can't believe how many of my own girlfriends like it just for instance,
I just put out the easiest little potato video on Instagram and how many of my own people
were like, damn, we love those potatoes. They were so good. That was so easy. And I'm like,
God, do you guys cook? You know, I don't like to cook, but I got very lazy. I feel like
when I don't have a lot of people around, I'll cook if someone's coming over on a Sunday.
But the rest of the week, I do a lot of ordering out. Joe likes to go out.
I feel like when it's just Joe and I, I'll probably cook a lot less. I'll be like,
nope, let's go out and order and have a glass of wine. I don't think I'll cook as much as that.
I know. Not a bad gig. Wait, tell me about Suare. What's going on with that?
Okay. Suare, which I have right here, which I've been drinking coffee just now.
Suaray is doing very well.
I got to get Antonia.
I should make her, like pay her.
That's what I should be doing.
Brand ambassador.
You don't have to pay Antonia.
Send her some Suaray.
We won't really hit the sovereignty.
Suaray is doing amazingly well because you know I don't drink alcohol.
I'm a fun time without alcohol.
And if I did drink, I'd probably be a tramp in a hot mess.
You do amaze me guys for anyone who doesn't know this. Marge can hang till the last one
there. Like literally we would go out, we would do press. She would come out with us
after we'd have a drink, we'd have a cocktail. She doesn't have one drink, one cocktail,
and she's still so fun. She's on the dance floor. She doesn't ask to go home early. Nothing. You're like the best at that.
Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. No, I'm a late night girl and I like to stay up late and party.
So I, you know, I created Soiree so everybody could party together and that was my main
focus and people could use as a mixer, but I wanted something that tasted good, that,
you know, was like elevated, natural, real sugar, only 45 calories, and that people felt comfortable,
you know, in their own skin having a canned drink because I was like sick of ordering ice tea, diet
soda, all this stuff. But Lexi and I really are doing a lot of events with Soiree. We've gotten a
lot of places. We're in some ShopRite Liquors in New Jersey, we're in Gary's, we're in ByRite,
we're online, we're in Texas in hotels,
we're working with a lot of places, really going out there with Chicago White Sox Stadium.
So we're just branching out, but we're really going to start working with colleges and sororities
because we said, listen, at college, there's a heavy focus on drinking and things like
that.
Yeah.
Oh, God, I wish I was just just at parents weekend. Yes, there is.
No, I know.
And here I feel like, I think it's centered around that, but you could have a good time
also without drinking and wake up feeling fabulous.
And I'm not shaming anybody who drinks, but it gets you into a pattern if you really start
when you're young.
A few drinks is fine, but it can turn a corner very easily.
So Lexi and I really want to focus on the sororities with Soiree, like do a Soiree Society.
So we're starting to put together an ambassadorship program with all the bigger schools. So that's
really what we've been focusing on. That would be amazing. That would be great. And it's
a positive reinforcement to have them drink mocktails. And I think that would be awesome.
Listen, head over to
the University of Delaware Alpha Phi. Yeah. And that's really what we're trying to focus on. And
we're just putting up the merch, you know, and all that stuff. But Lexi and I have been like working
like maniacs doing this. And, you know, it's not easy to start a beverage company and women are
not typically in this industry. So it's been a little
rough but like you know because her and I started this together, self-funded and
but it's going pretty well. We're really excited about it and I'm happy to have
kind of this downtime in between the show so I could hyper focus on this
insanity. Well tell my listeners before we talk about RHO and Jay we're gonna
talk about the Jersey housewives for a minute here, but tell them where they can get Soire if they want
to try it out.
Thank you.
They can get it at drinksoire.com and that'll list the stores as well.
So go on the website, drinksoire.com.
Guys, you really should try it.
It's delicious and it's an awesome mocktail.
It's awesome just over ice as well
if you don't want to, you know, it's great. You could use it as a mixture too. If you
want a cocktail, you can make it a cocktail too. You could use it as a mixture. Yeah,
you could do it the Missy G way, which guys, I do add vodka to it, but guess what? It's
delicious. It's so good. I have it all over my house. We have it. I drank it all summer
at my shore house. You're good with the summer. You liked it in the summertime, I know. Yes.
So if you guys have not tried it yet, definitely, definitely try it.
Thank you. Yes.
You know, we love to support a woman duo business or something. Yes. I love your work ethic
and how hard you guys are working over there on it. It's pretty amazing.
Thank you.
It's inspiring to a lot of women who just in business in general, you're very inspiring
that way.
No, thank you.
And listen, you too.
And I love that we have businesses and that we could support each other and do events
together and I think that's really what it's about.
It's important to show that.
For sure.
For women to upkeep each other.
I mean, I think sometimes the negative gets focused on and there is so much positive that
comes out of our show and relationships.
1000%. I always say that. Online, I feel like is where the negative gets so highlighted.
But lately, I've been being asked to do a lot of these events and I've been at restaurant openings
and a bunch of different things. The outpouring of kindness and positive comments and positivity
that we do actually like put into people's lives, I think goes unrecognized until I meet
all of these people in person and hearing their comments and how the little things that
they hang on that we've said and that we've done and what they look forward to and how we've helped them in life and inspire them is really so amazing.
And I've been hearing so much of it.
How you've grown like over the years and you know, and how you've developed into this like
strong business woman.
And you know, that's inspiring, like from a young mom, because there's a lot of young
moms that watch it, whose kids have grown up and they've watched your kids grow up and
all that stuff.
And like people who've seen me, like, you know,
I left my husband and like other women have written to me and just like, how did you do
it? It's so hard or this happened. You know, it's like, it's very interesting.
For sure. I feel like that's a lot of what it's about. It's a lot of, you know, showing
the fun, but it's also being relatable to people and to their lives and being able to
for them to be like, wow, you know what, she's going through something that I'm going
through and like, resonating with that. And I think that's why our show, the Jersey show
in particular, if there is a show, is so was so loved, right? And so received so well.
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rumors flying around you and I both know, there are no answers
yet, right? We can confirm
to the people, like there's no answers.
No, people are saying this happened. We know absolutely nothing. We don't know when we're
going back to filming. We're just on a break. We're on a much needed break. We don't know
anybody who's coming back. We don't know what's happening. We're not bringing psychics on
the show to tell us what's happening.
Not psychics that look like a sideshow freak at least.
Oh, please.
See, this is why she's such a good housewife.
No, I had to say that.
I mean, that was funny.
I actually, I was, you know, I just, someone said me that because I'm, you know, blocked
usually, but that was kind of funny.
I had to say that. I mean, it was but that was kind of funny. I had it.
I had it.
It was the most ridiculous.
It was like beating a dead horse.
I think we all need to just sit back, see what happens, and when it does happen, we
all need to accept whatever it is.
We need to accept what comes at us.
Exactly.
Whatever happens is what's meant to be.
For sure.
And I think we're fine with it.
If you had to guess, because I did ask for questions for you today, so I have a bunch
of questions to ask you. By the way, a lot of the questions were about your husband,
so you already answered that. A lot of people wanted to know how Joe was doing.
If you had to guess what you think is going to happen, obviously this is just your guess,
what do you think might end up happening?
I don't, you know, Melissa, it's hard when everyone asks me, what do I really think in
my heart of hearts?
One day I think they might just be like, we're sick of all these broads in general.
Let's just get on with people.
But I think that, you know, people are invested in us and invested in our lives.
I don't know, you know, we still had good ratings.
I change my mind every day.
I know. Well, to be honest, now looking at our ratings, wow, they were pretty amazing
because I'm looking at... You could see all of the ratings because it's always online
for each of the shows and all of the Housewives shows, and I'm like, wow, we were killing
it. We were doing a really good job. Yeah. I just really, yeah, I don't know.
Listen, I don't wish bad on anybody.
Even the people I can't stomach, I don't want something bad to happen to them.
I really don't.
I don't want to see anybody lose money.
As much as I can't tolerate and want to be around them, I don't want anything bad to
happen.
I don't.
I don't want to see the demise of them.
I don't want to see them anymore, but I don't want to see the demise of them. I don't want to see them anymore, but I don't want to see
the demise of them. I agree. And I think waiting around for any demise is so 2010. Like the world
is... Nobody wants to see the demises anymore. We don't care about that. I know I want to watch,
we want to feel good TV right now. I will feel good TV. I mean, I'll tell you what I've been down the rabbit hole about.
P. Diddy.
Oh, God.
I can't.
I can't because I'm definitely one of those who was obviously a fan for so many years,
like so many other people were that didn't know all of this was going on.
Well, I mean, you're not going to be indicted in a freak off.
I mean, I don't think you were there.
No.
I mean, I have a photo with P Diddy.
I did meet him at a party.
And I remember telling this story to Andy Cohen
on Watch What Happens Live.
It was my first season of Housewives
and I was at a party that he was at
and he just walked right up to me.
And he said like, oh, I'm watching you.
You're doing amazing.
Thank you, Jesus. That's what he said to me. I was like, like, Oh, I'm watching you. You're doing amazing. Thank you, Jesus. That's
what he said to me. I was like, now I think about I'm like, he didn't try anything funny
with me. Like I don't even think Joe was at the party. Honestly, I don't even know if
Joe was there or not. I was, I was, I forget who I was with, but I'm crazy, crazy what
I'm hearing and seeing. And then when I watch the, I just,
I can't, I cannot.
I go down the rabbit hole. I am like,
So easy because once you go down the rabbit hole with P Diddy on TikTok, that's all your
algorithm is. It's just nothing but P Diddy right now for me on my algorithm. And it's
like the interviews that he did are hitting me differently now. So they just, oh my God, he was just with Wendy Williams
and like they showed an old interview there.
They showed an interview with this
and the Justin Bieber and this.
I was like-
That upsets me.
I hope, you know, it doesn't come out
that he did sexually inappropriate things to these young,
when these artists were young.
And I just, that's gonna upset, that's gonna be-
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Like I just feel like Margaret, it's just the beginning. That's going to be... Oh my God. Oh my God.
Like I just feel like Margaret, it's just the beginning.
I know.
And you know what?
You know, I love 50 Cent.
50 Cent is like right in there wanting this P. Diddy to go to.
I mean, I adore him.
And I just think it's like this whole thing.
Yeah.
50 Cent has been very vocal and he's been calling him out.
And isn't he the one who's, isn't he making a Netflix special?
Yes.
Yes. Yes. And I, good. You know what? This is so crazy, but I mean, literally,
this has been occupying my thoughts. Wow. You can't get away from it because it's on
everywhere you go, everything I do. I mean, the baby oil. Where would you store all that baby oil?
I still want to know. Was there some type of explanation about the baby oil? What was it?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He said he bought in bulk at Costco.
But why does anyone need 1,000 bottles of it? He likes baby soft skin. I don't know. I mean,
I was crying. I was laughing so hard. I was like, yeah, that's a classic. That's a classic.
Actually, it's sad and scary and freakish. And if any...
No, people are so sick. I mean, we don't realize how sick people really are.
It really scares you because for so long, like if someone that high profile could have
done all this for so many years and like, what kind of power is that, that it took this
long for that to come out?
Wow.
I know.
He silenced people, threatened people, had them on video.
That's how crazy it is. It's
really, really... And upon him and he has beautiful children that are in great colleges and all of
these things and it's kind of like, look what you're going to do now for the rest of your life.
Oh my God. I don't know. But anyway, I need to get back to a couple more questions that listeners had for you.
Do you have any regrets about this last season?
Would you have done anything differently?
No.
This last season, no.
I feel like everything came out right for me.
I feel like, no, I'm very happy the way I was.
I feel like I came out on top. I feel like the gods blessed
me a week before that final episode that I found out when I called the ex's attorney
and whatever her name, I called the ex's attorney and the ex and I found out about Jackie going
over there. That was like a gift I found out a week before. I feel like everything
turned out right. I was vindicated.
For sure. I feel like you were vindicated in many ways, proving that it was not you
and it was actually-
No, not me from 2021. Did I speak to her after that? Yes, of course, but not like when they
were accusing me and all this other nonsense, when the warrior video came out and all this
stuff, I had no fucking idea what was going on then.
Right. And I think that that totally has, you know, at least you got, that was completely
cleared for sure.
I mean, people are trying to say, oh, but you were subpoenaed then. Yeah. It was like
not a judge's subpoena. I was asked to be a witness. And I was like, for what? I didn't
even know who they were. And it's so crazy.
So a lot of the questions were also,
have you spoken to Jackie and if she reached out,
would you speak to her?
Have not spoken to her and I would not speak to her.
But you're done with that relationship.
I'm done with that relationship.
I don't wish, again, I don't wish her any ill.
She showed me who she is.
Clearly, She obviously never
felt a certain way the way I felt about her. I really loved
her. I did champion her. Regardless of what she thinks I
had her back.
I've watched you have her back from and listen, I still and
you know, I still haven't even said much. When it comes to
Jackie. I don't know why she always had like a soft I always
had a soft spot for her and I loved- She defended you. She, you know, stuck up for you and for all of us, but the truth is behind our backs,
she did a lot of things that we found out about and I think that's indicative of her character.
I mean, it was a lot of things that we didn't even know that-
No.
We didn't even know what was going on, you know.
I found it a week before, you know, that, you know we didn't even know what was going on. I found out a week before that final
sit down of R.R. and I was very, very taken aback by that. I was in shock and it's sad.
It's sad that I found out who she is. I think it is sad how it went down because
obviously I had a firsthand look on your friendship with her.
And, you know, I've said before that you used to remind me sometimes, make sure to call Jackie,
make sure you invite Jackie, you were always keeping her at the top of your list, honestly,
you really were. So that's why I, when it all went down, I was even in shock. But okay,
so you answered the question. A lot of people wanted to know if you spoke to her, how you feel about her.
That ship has sailed.
You know, when you show me who you are, that's it.
And she was not who I thought she was.
What if you were asked to come back on the show with some cast members that you have
vocally said you do not want to film with anymore or do not want to be with anymore?
No, I just wouldn't.
No.
No. It would be want to be with anymore. No, I just wouldn't. No.
It would be time to try new things.
Listen, I just have to protect my family and I cannot put myself in that position and I
think it would be dangerous for myself and my family.
Do you have a plan for if you don't come back?
What would be your next move?
If they reboot this whole show and none of us come back and this is just a rebooted thing, do you have
any plans? Like what are you thinking? What would be next for you?
I think, listen, I'm hyper focusing on Spar Right like I was on. I have my licenses, you
know what I'm saying, which I have to, you know, which I did neglect a teeny tiny bit
because you know, the show is consuming, right? It is consuming. And sometimes you can't focus
on everything you're supposed to do. But I'm blessed that I have a life that my business is.
I focus on blowing up soiree. Maybe I'd go back to doing a lot of my lifestyle expert stuff. I
always did that on TV before that. I'd focus on interiors heavily because I love to do that.
I love to focus on interiors
and that's what I would really be doing.
Right.
I mean, listen, I feel like there's,
there could still be a lot of show left.
I feel like they can recast and still make a great show
but there's also another part that makes me feel like,
listen, we've been, there's a long time,
lot of years that we've been doing's a long time, lot of years that
we've been doing this. And sometimes it is good to like elevate and try new things and
go another way.
I feel like you, I feel like I have a lot of life ahead of me. I've reinvented myself
so many times, but I think I'd probably focus on, you know, doing other things that I love
that I've neglected a little bit. And that's it. It's like one chapter, you know, one door closed, another chapter opens, another door
opens.
And I think, you know, then that would be meant to be if the show ended, that would
be meant to be.
For sure.
All right.
And the last question I got was about plastic surgery.
People are like, tell us exactly what Marge has gotten done.
Ask her. And I'm like, I actually don't really know the answer to this.
Oh, okay. Since I've been on the show. Well, I'm gonna tell you what I got before I was
on the show.
Oh yeah. I want to know it all. I want to be like Andy right now, crying about your
lip fillers and shit.
I haven't had any lip filler. Is that not funny? And people are like, get lips. I was
like, no, I never do my lips.
Oh, that's good. Those are good.
I've done my lips years ago.
I never have done my lips in years and years and years.
And I'm saying the time.
So before I got on the show, when I started doing lifestyle expert stuff, this is very
funny.
My agent Amy Rosenblum goes, your forehead is so wrinkled.
You got to get your eyes done, whatever it is. I said, okay
I went to a doctor in the city. Dr. Thomas Romo because Joe did his medical installation. I was 44 years old
So that's 13 years ago some 57 and he said I said I need my eyes done
He goes you don't need your eyes done. You got to raise the curtain rod before you hem the curtains
You need a brow lift." I said, okay. At Lenox Hill, I went in for a brow lift then, and they're drilling your head.
That's a Tamra just had, and I had a brow lift in my upper lids done when I was 44.
I didn't need Botox for seven years. Wow, because it just totally... Which I
kind of like that, honestly. Instead of injecting it into your body, all of these
chemicals, you're better off just nipping and tucking is what I think.
Well, I got the brow lift immediately, and my eyes done. And then I got on the show and
I wasn't in my best state. I was like a chubby... I was still through a bad time when I got
on the show. I had a bad loss today. Menopausal, perimenopausal. Remember, I was always bleeding.
I always had my period, my first concussion.. Remember I was always bleeding. I always had my period my first
time. I remember I was always hemorrhaging, bleeding out of my leggings. So I was always bleeding.
Bleeding like on the show. I was like, oh my god, tampon blowout. So, it was so crazy.
And I got on the show. I don't even know how I went on the show like that. I was a little baby
pork chop. But anyway, I got on the show. Then once I got on the show, I did a full
facelift and Dr. Kallak was like, you got to do your eyes again. So I did my eyes again,
but that was like, I think it's four years ago, right? Three or three and a half.
So when you do your eyes, that means you do like the eyelid on top.
Yes, the eyelid. I never had bad bags underneath, but he pinched the skin underneath.
He pinched the skin under, okay.
He pinched the skin pinch.
I didn't have bags like Joe.
So then I did a full facelift.
That's your neck, you know, this, you know, the eyes again.
I didn't never have it.
How old were you when you did that, the full facelift?
If I'm just that, like 53?
Was I 53?
Yeah, 53.
And then I did my teeth.
Oh, I did my teeth.
Right. Well, does that count?
Oh, and then I did, never tell me to talk or anything like that. I did a boob reduction
and a lift.
Okay. And your boobies look so good.
They look really good. They're nice and small. They're very perky. I can't show you.
I love your boobies. But first of all, have a photo guys in my phone of Margaret's boobies
pre before she did them because they were huge. They were huge.
My nipples were like cheeseburgers.
And they were not as perky. So if you want to laugh, she was giggling in the photo. We
were on some trip filming for the Housewives and they probably put us in the same room
or something. I forget where we were. But she was holding them in her hands, like lifting them up and
holding them in her hands. And I took a photo of her and it's still in my phone. So you
want to hear the funniest thing. Do you know how your phone when it's someone's birthday
or whatever and you swipe up on their face and it like will make you a whole little reel
or whatever, a little video for the person's birthday. It put that
friggin photo inside and made a whole video and I'm watching I'm
going oh this is so sweet and then boom comes your tits
popping right on the camera. It's so hysterical. I sent it
to Margaret I was like happy birthday. I know that was so
funny it came in there. No, but I'm telling you that was one of my favorite surgeries I did was my boobs cuts.
It made me feel so much thinner.
And of course, I've been on the Seema Glutide, the compounding version of an ozempic, which
I lost 23 pounds.
And I'm telling you, I was the innovator.
I was the first one on it on our show.
You look like you lost more than that.
Has it only been 23 pounds?
23 pounds, yeah, total.
I weigh like...
It's amazing what 20 pounds will do. To me, you
look slim. You look taller too. It's crazy, right? You feel like your legs look longer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when I went to the doctor, it wasn't even called ozempic yet. It was
called like peptides. And I went in the city to add beat him, you know what it was? And
he was like, Marge, you got to drop like 20 pounds.
I was like, I can't drop 20 pounds.
Like I'll drop 10.
He was like, no, you could get back into the 120s.
I was like, what?
No way.
And I did.
And that's where you are right now, right?
You look fantastic.
The other comments I got were like, just tell her she looks fantastic.
Oh, that was her she looks fantastic. And of course I got a thousand
things saying you two are my favorite. You both better come back. We're a good duo, me and you.
You know, you know, it's like the angel and the devil. What'd you say? It's like the angel and
the devil. I know you're the angel and the devil. No, I'm not really the angel. I just you know, no,
but we do make a good team. I think we like to have a lot of
fun. We work together. I like how you laugh at me. You know,
it's funny. Rachel food is said to me the other day she was
like, you know, Melissa, I feel like this season people didn't
like don't realize how funny you are. And sometimes I even forget
that I'm funny. You know,
like, you know what, you're a good time. And sometimes I even forget that I'm funny. You know, like I'm- You're a good time and you're a party girl
and you love to have a good time. You're not negative. You're never a Debbie Downer. Never.
No, not who I am. You're not a negative Nancy at all. You never
sucked the life out of her, which I love. And you're not neurotic like that. You know
what I mean? And that's what I love. No, I'm pretty chill. I'm pretty chill.
You are. You're funny. And I love it. Anyway, love. No, I'm pretty chill. I'm pretty chill. You are. You're funny. And I love it.
Anyway, Marge, I love you so much. I'm so happy.
I love you too.
Yes. I'm so happy we caught up today. Two weeks is way too long for not seeing you.
It is. I know, but I'm just kidding, Ashley, but I'll talk to you later. Thank you for
having me.
Of course. We all love you and I will see you soon. Everyone, make sure you check out
her mocktails at www.drinksuare.com.
Did I say it wrong?
Suare.
Suare, like a party.
Suare, drinksuare.
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Yeah, perfect.
Thank you.
Love you.
Ciao, guys.
Bye. That's good.
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