On Display with Melissa Gorga - Third Degree Berner (w/ Hannah Berner)

Episode Date: March 17, 2022

Melissa is joined by comedian, TV personality, and former Summer House resident, Hannah Berner, to chat about comedy, house husbands, weddings, and leaving a Bravo show.  Speaking of weddings, Me...lissa addresses the news about Teresa's wedding plans, and shares her thoughts on the recent Bachelor finale.  This week's sponsors: Analuisa Jewelry: shop.analuisa. com/melissa (20% off) ShipStation Shipping Solution: shipstation.com, promo code: MELISSA (60-day free trial) Sambucol Immune Support: sambucolusa.com, promo code: MELISSA (15% off)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Melissa Gorga on display with me Melissa Gorga on podcast one. I saw the sign. I saw the sign. I didn't open up my eyes. I saw the sign. I love that sign. A band. No one's gonna tell you up.
Starting point is 00:00:18 They're gonna go. Okay. what's up everybody. Welcome to another episode of Melissa Gorga on display. So much going on over here this week. I am I'm hoping everyone else is having a great week over here. We are we just
Starting point is 00:00:42 opened the new envy over in Ridgewood, New Jersey. And you know, for lack of a having a great week. Over here, we just opened the new envy over in Ridgewood, New Jersey. And for lack of a better word, my life has been just, I would say insane. It's been crazy. I want to thank everyone who has come out for that and who's always supported envy.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Because if anyone has been watching the Real House as a New Jersey from the beginning until now, you know, it was a little bit of a struggle for me in the beginning. It really was. It was was a little bit of a struggle for me in the beginning. It really was. It was like a stay-at-home mom with three kids trying to break free from, you know, that just the traditional, like, mom going to work
Starting point is 00:01:13 and getting out of the house and wanting what I want. And it was a long road. It's been six years now that I've had envy. And so this envy is bigger and better. It's in the best location. I am loving the town of Ridgewood. Everyone has been so amazing. All the shops in Ridgewood,
Starting point is 00:01:31 everyone has been coming in. All the locals, I love you guys so much. It's been chaos. I'm not gonna lie because I'm just trying to hire more girls and it's been, you know, it's been even busier than I imagined it would be, but I'm grateful for all of that. And so my life's been, you know, it's been even busier than I imagined it would be, but I'm grateful for all of that.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And so my life's been like upside down. I have been an envy world for the last, definitely for the last 14 days. But always grateful and anyone who's not here in New Jersey know that you can always go to envy by mg.com and you can shop all the looks because, you know, I love to dress you all in fashion. It's always just been so fun for me. So, I'm so grateful for all of that. Huh, let's see.
Starting point is 00:02:11 What else is going on in the world? Well, I guess the real housewives of New Jersey we can talk about for a second. I'm not going to lie, I had a lot of news outlets reaching out to me because yes, I watched watch what happens live with Andy Cohen and I did find out on TV that I'm not going to be in Teresa's wedding and I'm not a bride's maid, which I'm okay with. I'm fine with my, I think my, you know, I understand to each their own, you know, since everyone wants to know how I feel, let's just answer it. No, I had no idea. No, yes, I found out on TV and I pretty much assumed that, but I guess my big question is, you know, are her new sister-in-law's in the wedding? Is it like a no-fam wedding other than the four daughters, her four beautiful daughters, and like a couple of her friends.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And if that's the case, then I think that makes perfect sense. I mean, if she's having Louise sisters, well, you know, then I guess that makes perfect sense for Teresa. So I don't know, I wish her nothing but happiness. I'm very happy that she's happy. I love to see her smile when she's with Louise.
Starting point is 00:03:24 So whatever she decides, it's her wedding and I will be fine with it. I just, you know, I don't know, she probably put me in an ugly dress anyway. Just kidding. I'm just kidding, but for real. No, just kidding, no seriously, though. Anyway, so I mean, that's my immediate thoughts on that. I feel like I've been there for her through thick and thin, through so much that her life and her girls and her family has been through and with her parents. And, you know, Joan, I've been here for a long time.
Starting point is 00:03:57 You know, we, we've always backed her up. And we haven't said much on the show in a negative light regarding her and Louis and it's for a reason. It's because we want her happy and we want it to be good. So I hope she sees that and realizes that and I wish her nothing but happiness and I'm sure her wedding will be absolutely beautiful. So moving on from that. Okay. I just wanted to touch it a little bit so everyone can stop asking me.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Moving on from that, I let's just talk about the bachelor finale for a second because holy crap. I mean, I cannot believe that Susie is actually taking him back after everything he put her through. I mean, I don't know. Does everyone feel like sometimes like absence makes the heart grow fonder? Or it's like, if he feels like someone is moving on, then you want them back. You always want what you can't have type of thing. I don't know. I just, I just can't believe she went back with Clay. And I mean, he put her through a lot. And there was like a little semi proposal. And you know, when she left him after that semi proposal, I'm like all right you go girl like she she was being strong But I don't know she's back. So I Guess like let's see where that goes. There were so many crazy moments in the finale
Starting point is 00:05:14 um and then when Clayton broke up with Rachel and Gabby and they're in the same room I mean Gabby first of all your reactions were like priceless. And I just really felt for Rachel. It seemed like she really took it hard. She definitely took it harder. So I don't know. But let's see. Rachel and Gabby, I'm so happy to see you both
Starting point is 00:05:37 as the bachelor ats for next season. That is going to be super fun. And I wish you guys nothing but happiness and success. So talking about reality TV, let's move on to my next guest, which I'm so excited about. She is no stranger to all the craziness and late nights and all craziness of Bravo TV. You've definitely seen her on Bravo's summer house. And she hosts her own podcast, Burning and Hell. We have Hannah Burner today. What's up, girlfriend, how are you?
Starting point is 00:06:07 Thank you for having me, Melissa. It's an honor and a privilege to be on your pod. And I'm so happy that you have your own pod and your own voice. I know. I can't believe it. I found my voice, you know? I know.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Do you like interviewing people? I actually really do. I'm surprised at how much I like it. I wasn't one who was so gun-ho on it at first. I was kind of like, I don't know. Maybe I'll try this and everyone's talking me into it almost because they were just like Melissa Truss does. So, and then once I started doing it,
Starting point is 00:06:40 and I'm like having these conversations with people, I feel like I know everybody now. I know everybody very deeply. It is such an excuse to meet people like you're just like You're gonna go by pod and then after an hour you're like are we soul sisters? Yes, like I I'm telling you that's how I feel with everyone. So let's see if we become soul sisters. Yeah Yeah, no pressure you and I have we ever met in person It's so funny you ask because I was trying to figure that out before I got on, because obviously,
Starting point is 00:07:09 I feel like I know you, and I'm good friends with Margaret. I've met Teresa. I pronounced Teresa's name. Everybody's friends with Margaret. Yeah. It's someone who's not good friends with Margaret. I infamously interviewed Teresa when I used to work for Betches back in the day, and I mispronounced her name. I infamously interviewed Teresa when I used to work for
Starting point is 00:07:25 Betcha's back in the day and I mispronounced her name. And it was like super embarrassing. What? It's like Judy Jay. I said, yeah, I said, Teresa, Judy Jay and she goes, what, what'd you call me? And I just like died laughing and. I knew you just got hysterical.
Starting point is 00:07:43 She did it with the accent. I just had a lean on from Betcha's the other like right very recently. It is such a small world Elin was a big reason that I like got into comedy and podcasting because she she gave me a Comedy video producing gig when I was 25 to just like to write memes and tweets and little sketches So shout out to Alien. Yeah, listen She's pretty amazing too with everything she's done at such a young age and what she's created that monster Which you know, I just spoke about her, you know, we just talked last week. She was pretty interesting That's pretty amazing what they created from like the ground up three girlfriends, right? Yes, and I think people love them because yeah, they're just three girlfriends being themselves
Starting point is 00:08:24 And I like people love them because, yeah, they're just three girlfriends being themselves. And I like connecting myself with entrepreneurial badass and just very authentic women who are being themselves and owning it. Right. Right, right, right. True. OK.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Well, I'm going to talk to you a little bit first about Summer House. Obviously, because we got the bravo peeps in the house. Yes. They're usually around me. They're all in my territory. They're still around me. They're all in my territory. They're still on me too. You know, it's funny because I spoke to Tamra judge
Starting point is 00:08:51 the other day who is no longer on bravo anymore either. She was on the OC housewives, right? She told me that it was so difficult for her. It was so hard for her when they had let her go. That she almost fell into like a deep hole. She muted us all. She muted every housewife. She basically turned it off and pressed mute
Starting point is 00:09:15 because it was so hard for her to even watch it on social media as she didn't watch the show anymore. Did you feel any of these feelings when you were no longer on summer house? For sure, 100% because it's the three years that I was on. It's your life. And also with reality TV, there's a lot of like people caring about, you know, followers and fame and like you see all the like storylines that are being pushed. And I had to kind of remove myself from that
Starting point is 00:09:45 to kind of get back to what I wanted to get into comedy and stand up in my podcasting. And especially when you feel like there's unresolved issues with stuff you don't want to see people on social media. Even like my best friends who are still on the show, Paige and Sierra, I told them I was like, I have to meet you guys because I don't,
Starting point is 00:10:11 it's basically like all your friends are hanging out without you all the time. Right, it's like you're watching the party and you weren't invited, which has to, it's not like that. I mean, I literally wasn't invited to multiple parties. So it was like, it's hard. And also it's not just you and a friend group, it's a part. And also it's it's not just you and a
Starting point is 00:10:25 friend group. It's in the public. So the public are seeing you now basically being told, like, you're not a part of the group anymore. And I feel like a lot of people listening, I think everyone's had a moment where they've been kind of isolated by a friend group or kind of like pushed out by a group of people who want to be like, we don't like you anymore type thing. And you deal with that every season in housewives. I feel like we're people are getting isolated. And then you have to move on. But for me, like, I, you're done with the game. Like I got out of the game. So now I've been working on like, I'm getting married. I have, I'm very excited for my bachelor at party that page and Sierra are gonna be at because they are really like
Starting point is 00:11:10 I created really fucking amazing friendships from that show With certain people that's that's the solid part. By the way, I know Sierra I did a Marshall's commercial with her and I love it. Oh my god You guys look so hot her. Oh my god, you guys love with her. She's so hot and like, oh my god, I remember that commercial and she's also, she's just the best and what's funny is I met her when they were kind of trying to make me jealous that like the guy I was talking to said that he liked her and then I met her and I was like, wait, I like you more than I like him. I really liked her.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I thought that she was pretty amazing. So she's an awesome girl. But yeah, going back to that, I mean, it is kind of, it's difficult to sit there. And you're watching it. You're getting kicked out of a friend group, so to speak, right? And you're kind of watching the friend group move on. And that's rough.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I know that's gotta be rough. But I have to say, oh, sorry. Yeah. No, but if you're you're concentrating now on becoming a comedian or you were a comedian before, how did that work? Great question. So Betcha's I was doing my like creating funny videos and writing and all this stuff and then I got on summer house and It was actually Jim Leonard small world, the lawyer, who could, we're like name dropping, but Michelle teaches Viley who I know worked with you and PR is my good friend. And I said, I'm scared. What do I do?
Starting point is 00:12:35 PR. Yes, I said, what do I do? I'm starting a reality TV show and she goes, let me hook you up with Jim, who has worked with as a lawyer for Real Housewives. And he basically was like, start a podcast. You want them to hear your real voice, which you really like. You got to monetize them. And I was like, okay. So I started my podcast, and then Caroline said, do you want to do a live podcast? And my friend goes, I dare you to do 10 minutes of stand-up.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And I'd been dating a stand-up comedian at the time, so I was kind of really in that world and I did it and then I haven't stopped. Unfortunately, it wasn't something that Summer House they wanted to cover. So now I've been able to kind of put my onto it. I also saw Joe. Joe and I were like going to the same clubs and stuff and I mean this is the thing. I'm from Brooklyn originally. I'm half Italian and I see Joe and I see you and I feel like that originally, I'm half Italian, and I see Joe, and I see you, and I feel like, that's why I love the, your guys show. It's so naturally funny, you can't help but be naturally funny. It's in your blood. It's just in our blood.
Starting point is 00:13:33 It's just the, it's the stupid shit we say. It's the way that we run relationships. I think it's just the, it's just the way that we move, you know? I think people, people think it's funny. We don't even do anything. We're like, what's so funny? It's just the banter of us, like back and forth. And what I'm making fun of him, it makes me so happy.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It's so good. Because I mean, he's so easy to make fun of. And you know, listen, he's another one that out of the clear blue was like, hey, I'm a standup comedian. I'm like, what? Like that is like one of the hardest things to do. And this is for you as well.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I mean, you have to know this. Like, walking into a room and saying, like, hey, I am just going to stand here and you're all going to laugh. Right away, it makes me not want to laugh. That's what I tell Joe. I'm like, the fact that I know that you're trying to make me laugh makes me not want to laugh. And I think Joe is so great at like, you know, if you're at dinner, he's always the guy
Starting point is 00:14:27 that everyone's laughing at. Killin' it. Killin' it on date nights when everybody wants to come to dinner with us, because it's like we're the fun couple to go to dinner with, we're funny, but like I'm like Joe, a stage. That's a whole nother ball game. I mean, has it been difficult for you? Well, it's fun.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I, Joe is like on his journey. I, I started like, I started to do, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've. I mean, has it been difficult for you? Well, it's funny. Joe is like on his journey. I started like, I started doing, I perform all week in the city. Like, I work on my sets and I've been doing it for a couple years now. And I have a lot of good people around me who are like New York Comics who keep me kind of focused on what I really need to work on because it's great that you can sell tickets, but then it's like I really need to work on because it's great that you can sell tickets but then it's like you really want to, it's an art and I was always funny but it's different yet getting on a stage and talking at people but I realize comedy is less like a speech and more actually like a dance
Starting point is 00:15:17 because like the audience is a part of it with you and so it becomes this I just like making people laugh. It just gets down to that like that's what makes me happy. I think after reality TV, when you find yourself in these dramas, you never thought you'd be in, it's been this refreshing kind of like, honestly, like stand up, like save my life because instead of sitting around and just looking at my phone, looking at the people who have declared they don't like me anymore and whatever, I now was able to just create and try to make people laugh. But make them laugh through my truth of like, this is what's fucked up with me, this is
Starting point is 00:15:53 why I struggle with. And hearing that's what everyone loves the most. People want to know the truth, the raw, the things that they deal with that, you know, they don't want to hear like a made up joke. Your real life is probably more funny than any joke you can come up with. You're so right, because I started with like, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:10 astrology jokes, I make fun of cats farting, and then I started to tell stories of like- I have farting. No, no, I wanna hear about your deep struggles. Yeah, so then I started to like, fucked up dating stories, and I talk about like my engagement,
Starting point is 00:16:22 and I've like hit on Summer House a little bit, not too much, because I'm still processing it to be honest But what you said is right like people I had two really incredible seasons of summer house where like I people Like really connected to me and I didn't expect that and then my last season like Did not show the best light of a situation like I feel like my story wasn't really shown and best light of a situation. I feel like my story wasn't really shown. And my standup has been a way of kind of being like, hey guys, I know we all have ups and downs and this is just me and the raw. Right. And that's what people appreciate the most. And the reason I tell Joe the same, I'm like, stop talking about this dog thing that you keep talking about. I'm like, tell us about your day
Starting point is 00:17:02 because that's funny shit. Like what you do in a day and just like, how you act it with me and like, with the kids and like, that's funny shit when you tell us that part. Yeah, because anyone can write a punchline but what makes Joe unique is who he is. And I always say, they don't remember what you say, they remember how you made them feel. So it's like, when you leave that dinner table,
Starting point is 00:17:21 you're like, holy shit, like I had great energy and was likable and made fun of himself the whole time. Like, are you inspired when you leave that dinner table, you're like, holy shit, I had great energy and was likable and made fun of himself the whole time. Right, like, are you inspired when you leave? Or how do you feel? Like, you know, every you inspire? I think everybody wants to be inspired. He's doing these crazy quotes too on Instagram. Oh my god. He spells half the shit. Jump. But he pumps me up. But you have to, one of his like misspelled posts, I'm like, I need a, I need to invest in the stock market.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Like, I need to take over the world. I can't handle it. I can't handle it. I'm like, I'm literally sitting on the other into the catch. I'm like, Joe, delete it. Just fucking delete it. But I do think you're lucky that you have this relationship
Starting point is 00:17:59 where he's so into the entertainment. Because I feel like there's so many guys who don't want to be with Real Housewives because't want to be with real housewives Because they want to be away from the attention and he just like it's so good with it like honestly The husband the husband's on your show Kill it and not a lot of husbands do Guys if you know me you know I love jewelry and you know what they say the more affordable the jewelry the more you can have I love jewelry and you know what they say the more affordable the jewelry the more you can have which is why I'm here to tell you about Anna Luisa jewelry. Anna Luisa specializes in crafting high quality jewelry at very affordable prices.
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Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah, I've watched watched the beginning ones, but yeah, you go. Where'd the chat room go? I like chat room a lot. It was, oh my God, thank you. It was an amazing experience that was purely deep, deep COVID. Like, I shot, for people don't know, it was a talk show on Bravo that I shot in my mom's kitchen on the top of a toaster oven. And we
Starting point is 00:21:46 just put a cute top on. I do my makeup and we'd shoot for a couple hours and it would go out. And then we need to bring that back. We need to bring that back. I need to do that with you because I am. Yes. I love it. We need to talk about this. You're not actually good at it. I feel like we stopped it because things started opening up and it was kind of like a late night fun thing, but we had the best time and we started to bring in guests. It was amazing for me to like sit with a bunch of housewives and talk about our experience on reality TV,
Starting point is 00:22:15 which is so unique, because people talk about reality about a time, but not from knowing like how the sausage is made, which I think was what made the show fun. And we knew a lot of the women we were talking about. So we'd have like fights about it. I'd be like, she didn't mean it like that. And she's always like, I don't know, I met her at a party once.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I think she did. And I'm like, oh, T. Yeah, you're getting the inside. You guys had like the inside info. I actually watched it whenever it was on. And I thought it was great. It was almost like watching, you know, when E news used to sit and like critique the dresses.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It was like critique the shows. I loved it. It was awesome. And, you know, when E news used to sit and like critique the dresses, it was like critique the shows. I loved it. It was awesome. And I feel like I actually. So many housewives, including yourself, have such a good sense of humor and such great stage presence in general that like, poor shows of fucking comedian. I know. And because you can't just put, you can't just put people on TV and expect them to like
Starting point is 00:23:02 light up a screen. And I mean, you guys are all incredible. Wait, so did you meet your man on reality? So did you meet him through the show? Oh, good question. I did not. OK. I met him.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I was 29 single and deep quarantine with my parents in Shelter Island, out in Long Island. We were like fostering four cats. I was very single. My mom was like, so how did we get here? We were reflecting on my life. What's happening to us all? And then there was this guy who's a comedian who I'd seen perform before who followed me on Instagram Who just messaged me and said, hey, are you out?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Are you out east? Because he saw I took a picture with Luan, which is very random who goes to Sheldra Island And I said yeah, I'm out east and he goes do you want to get coffee in Sagarber? I said yes We got coffee we went on like two more dates and then I was like I have to go film summer house Which is eight weeks locked in a house? I called him every night crying laughing face-time sex everything Oh And then he visited for like three days on the show They called him every night crying, laughing, facetime sex, everything. Oh. And then he visited for like three days on the show.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And then after the show, we like, we basically moved in together and then got engaged after six months. Wait a second, you guys filmed summer house for eight weeks where do you go home on the weekends or like, how did that work? So that's the problem, Melissa. Normally the show is like like follows us during the week
Starting point is 00:24:26 and the city working, follow our jobs. Then we go party on the weekends and a sharehouse come back. But this particular season, they lock us in a house for COVID safety. And it was one of the hardest summers in my life. I mean, you literally weren't allowed to go into general population because you would bring your family.
Starting point is 00:24:44 We were allowed to go on some walks, but you couldn't really go far. Oh my God, I'm dying. And even the days that we weren't filming, you're still with the people you're in a fight with. So there was never that, just real, and I'm also the kind of person I'm like, I just want to shut the light and be alone with my cat.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I need to refuel the battery. Right, I'm like that too. If you let me go home for like a day or two and bring me back, I am such a great housewife. But when you... I'm a new woman! Yes, I'm a new woman. But when I have to continue,
Starting point is 00:25:13 like sometimes the cash trips that they send us on. Oh my God, by like day four, I'm vicious. Like I just start to look at the producers when they walk in the room like, are you gonna ask me to speak? Like I am a savage because I'm that girl who needs a break. I need to go home, I need to go to sleep. And I come back like, Chipper the next morning.
Starting point is 00:25:32 You know? I get energy from being alone. I love being alone. So the fact that anywhere I'd go, like I'd run into someone I was in a fight with, and it started to like mess with me. And I also feel like that they become like your sibling. So like someone says something and you're like,
Starting point is 00:25:46 you've been doing this for four weeks and I can't stand it anymore. And they're like, they're breathing. And I'm like, I know. Like I'm sick of this shit. Stop breathing. No, I don't know. It's like the big brother house really. It was like you guys were like, it was and what makes Summer House unique is we have hidden cameras everywhere. So just because the big cameras aren't there doesn't mean that definitely a camera. So I die when you guys like get in the bed and pull the cover.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'm like, what? I would go crazy. I feel like yet. So I literally felt like I could never be just like alone. It's crazy. It's crazy. And I think about it like a lot of you like when I watch Summer House and you know I'm not fully up to date on it. I've definitely seen a little
Starting point is 00:26:30 bit. But like I think to myself oh my god when I was their age I had three children like literally and I'm oh like and I want because you know I had all my kids by 30. So I'm watching and I'm like I think I had Joey I was 30 or 31 and I'm watching and I'm like wow like who's doing it right and who's doing it wrong because like should I? I've still been partying and like making out with boys and hot tubs or am I good that I have the three kids at 30 I'm so confused I was a thin it's a thin line, but you that's a valid point because it's a thin line between being like, oh, this is so fun versus like are these people okay? And I think that's what makes the show kind of funny because when I was 26 and single The show was so fun for me. I'm like I'm meeting new people. I'm dating. I'm getting drunk. I'm I'm feeling myself I'm in the Hamptons and then I got engaged. I turned 30 and
Starting point is 00:27:22 it wasn't a right situation for me anymore. And I do think it's healthier for me now to invest in my relationship and do my comedy because I don't really wanna get pee-and-hot tubs on the weekend anymore, even though it was so fun when I was single and younger. Of course it is. Well, we all go through the stage of like,
Starting point is 00:27:42 we wanna be wild and fine and cool. But like there does come a time where you're like, all right, it's time to become an adult. And you know, you're wasting time. You guys start making money. I got to start putting my, you know, it's time to build the life here, you know, I joke. I'm a, because I'm Italian. Like I love eating and I've never been that good at drinking. I'm like the one I'm way funny or sober like a second.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I'm a little drunk. I'm just like, I'm so, I'm so blank. I'm like, how did I go to sleep? And I'm like the one I'm way funny or sober like a second I'm a little drunk. I'm just like I don't know so I don't know why I'm there like how to go to sleep and I'm like okay. So I was I prefer eating and maybe a little drink and good conversation with like people I love you know you're maturing I love it. I mean in certain ways not all. Wait so did you ever have a moment though when you were no longer on that you were pissed at Paige or at Sierra because you were just like, I'm not on anymore and you are. And this is like, I'm mad. And did you guys have a little riff at any point?
Starting point is 00:28:31 That's a great question. Okay. That's because it's hard feelings. You almost want to blame someone else. Like, why aren't you polling for me or like? So there in our show, there's like a weird hierarchy that I didn't that I wasn't aware of until the show came out of certain stories they were showing.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And Paige, I knew if she spoke up, she would have been in my situation. And we've talked about it where she was like, I didn't defend you the way I want to, just because it wasn't safe. And now, I think't defend you the way I want to just because like, it wasn't like safe. And now I think as people watch the show, they're gonna, I think she's gonna be more vocal about stuff, but unfortunately in my season, I didn't, and Sierra did have my back, it just wasn't really shown. So, Paige and I were kind of caught in a hard political place, but we have a podcast now, Giggly Squad, together we do every week where we're actually kind of closer than
Starting point is 00:29:33 ever because we're not worried like, oh, is she going to use this against me when we're filming or like, is she going to tell someone? Because she knows like, I'm out of the game. I'm retired. You're saying to her now. Now, she can speak freely around you and not worrying about you coming on to the scene and like, spilling the beans, basically.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And also Melissa, I wouldn't be honest. I could have totally been like, you know what? You didn't have my back, even though I know you did behind closed doors and fuck you. But like, my friendship is so important and I realize with friendships, you're gonna have times where like people make mistakes or people make Decisions you don't agree with and I realize like our friendship is so much more important than like this unique reality TV
Starting point is 00:30:13 Situation that we were put in that didn't I didn't like how it turned out where it's like Who knows who like we're put in such unique such social situations and I know her heart and like my heart and we're, I'm lucky to have her in my life. Okay, that's fair. Cause like how many tips have you had with people? You, oh, with fucking Joe on TV, you know, and you still love him?
Starting point is 00:30:36 Yes, of course, so many, so many. There's times with our close, I mean, I film with my sister-in-law. I mean, let's be real, it's like back and forth. There's Margaret and I are really great friends. She does things that sometimes I come out on my interviews or my confessionals and I'm like, Margaret's going a little too far and you know my phone rings and I'm like, you were going too far, like, like, like, you're my friend, but I thought you were going too far, you know, like, it's just how it goes. But in real life, you wouldn't have to speak to the public
Starting point is 00:31:01 to give an opinion on like, the stupid shit friends doing. Exactly. Or also like honestly, Paige did not kind of speak up against something to protect herself. And who am I to tell her you need to put yourself on the chopping block like I did. Right. Right. So I know that her decisions were never to hurt me. Right. She was protecting herself. Mm-hmm. And I do think that things work out and like the truth comes out about stuff. And fortunately this season, I think people are seeing the truth about some of my opinions
Starting point is 00:31:36 that weren't shown during the season. Oh, interesting. Okay. I mean, listen, you always spoke the truth and you've always kept it real. You've always said what you needed to say. I mean, if you could say anything to this cast right now, what would it be?
Starting point is 00:31:51 You know what? I've been in a lot of therapy. I've been in a lot of therapy. Oh, I know. You just came out of your therapy session. I just came out therapy session. Because my biggest fear was going on a reality show and people seeing me in a light that I didn't feel like was authentic to me. And my biggest fear also was like for your friends to turn on you.
Starting point is 00:32:10 The friends of four years would just suddenly be like, this girl's evil. My comedy friends are so funny. They're like, how'd you like become the evil person I'm bravo? And I'm like, you know, when you have a tough,? You know when you, you know when you have a tough, but they're like, they laugh at it. They think it's so funny because they know who I am. And I'm just like a goofball who's actually so bad at confrontation.
Starting point is 00:32:31 So what I would say to the cast is like, you guys are really good at reality TV and like keep doing you. And I only have love to give to you guys. And yeah, that's better. I support them and there. It wasn't right for me. And I honestly thank you for kicking me out of something
Starting point is 00:32:47 that I don't think was meant for me anymore. That's fair and that's honest. Because I've done work of like, I feel like the universe really kicks you out of things that you did not feel was authentic to you. Well, it's funny. I think my first two seasons, they showed like my funny side and then my last season I felt.
Starting point is 00:33:06 They were things said that weren't shown to me that really affected my attitude. So when people are judging you based on things that you're reacting to that they don't see, it's really difficult for me to defend myself. So I kind of am just like, you know what, that's not a situation I want to be put in again. And I'll always stand up to abusive men.
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Starting point is 00:35:04 fun. We're really excited for you to listen and join in for Heavy Duro's World on podcast fun episodes drop on Thursdays and Fridays tune in on Spotify Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Tell me what's next. When are you getting married? Oh my God. This summer in May. I'm getting married in West Hampton and it's his house is right by Jackie's house. We were actually supposed to meet but it's you know gotten chaotic But it's it's on that strip West Hampton I like to say is like the more chill of the Hamtons and it's closer to the city and Yeah, it's gonna be a nice celebration of a combination of like comics crazy reality TV people um does his family my family
Starting point is 00:35:42 He's also spent a lot of his life in Ireland. So we have like Irish people coming over. So it started, most, it started as like the cutest, most intimate wedding. And now it's just gone out and controlled. Always. That's how it always goes. Wait, tell me a little bit about your dress.
Starting point is 00:35:56 What does it look like? Oh, okay. Well, portioned is Ella Prove and page approved, which is important. Okay. It's actually, they said more like romantic than they thought I'd'd go because I kind of I'm not always the girly type. I was gonna say it was like early girly girly girly Yeah, it's not a princess dress, but like I'm showing the booty um, and it's comfortable and
Starting point is 00:36:19 We have but you know fashion obviously. It's hard because you pick a dress a year before and then trends are changing and then you're looking at Instagram and you're like, wait, that's cool and I thought I was gonna be the chillest bride and now I'm like if I don't have for Cynthia's and a human sacrifice, I'm gonna be pissed. So like I've turned into yeah, because you realize it represents you and at first you're like, who cares? Let's do pizza party and then you're like, if that candlestick is not exactly bigger than the bouquet in this way, and you freak out. You turn into a savage psycho. It's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You always say like, I'm not gonna be that girl. It's a party. I'm not gonna be that girl. And then once the details start coming, wow. It just comes out. You're just like, where did you get married? Oh my God. When or how?
Starting point is 00:37:06 Where? I got married at like the most Italian spot in New Jersey. It's called Macaluso's that you can get married at. The reason, how about this? The reason we picked there is because all of the Italians, you know, the old school, deep Italians, okay. Pick this place because the cocktail hour, it's all about the food, okay? Pick this place because the cocktail hour, it's all about the food, okay?
Starting point is 00:37:26 It's all about the food. The cocktail hour is so freaking insane. It's like the size of like the whole entire room and it's six, six seafood. It's just, it's a ridiculous cocktail hour. So I had my wedding based off my cocktail hour because I was carrying, you know, the most Italian man in America. So that's
Starting point is 00:37:46 that's kind of what happened to me. I mean, I look at my dress, I kind of did the princess thing. I did like, I was very like got married when like Jessica Simpson was getting married and like, and it was shea and like, you know, so it was very like the sweet heart thing was in and the a line princess thing. Like, I did all of that. So I mean what I love to do it again just for the photos and the picture I was way too tan do not get a spray tan all everyone gets a spray tan before they get married and then I look yeah I looked ridiculous in my pictures. You can't even see the makeup because the tan Your tan is so strong when when you tan too much Then you couldn't see I couldn't see any makeup. All I see is tan. I could see the screen.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And against the white. Yes, I was like, we'll tell me to spray tan that many times or go tan. And I don't know what I did. It's just, you know, my makeup, I wasn't crazy about. I was like, what was this hair? Like, I need, I need a redo with that. But at the time, you took so long to make those critical
Starting point is 00:38:42 decisions, then afterwards you're like, what the hell was that? I thought I was perfect. They say to try to look like yourself. Yeah, they try to look like yourself. But also, I feel like they put so much wedding on, I mean, pressure on your wedding day as like, this is the biggest day of your life. And I've been working on, in general,
Starting point is 00:38:57 even though I have a man, desentering men from your life, as in like, it's not your biggest success. It's not the most important thing, you know? Like there's so many things that make you and like you don't need them, you want them. Obviously like as your husband, they're so important as a family, but just so it's interesting that like all these people
Starting point is 00:39:17 are celebrating the biggest celebration of my life and it's cause I like met my man. And like the feminist in me is like, but also it's just a good excuse to have all the family together. And I feel very lucky to have found a partner that wants to be a part of my chaotic journey. And also I think what you've dealt with is not to stereotype Italians, but traditionally like my Nana, Gameri, 18, she's her dad, she wanted to go to college, he cried,
Starting point is 00:39:46 like he didn't want her to. And I feel like me and you are both very entrepreneurial and very driven in our own right. And I think it's nice that we have guys, so even though they wanna be our masculine men, and they wanna be there and save us and protect us, they let us do our thing. Well, that's the truth.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I kinda feel like I do know, I can see both sides. I have the best of both worlds because I, you know, I am such like a business woman deep inside in my heart. I want to go to work. I want to thrive. Like, you know, we're entrepreneurs, right? But then I have that old school. I have a little piece of that next to me every day.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And it's in me too. I appreciate that. The old school mentality and just, you know, And it's in me too. I appreciate that. And the old school mentality and just, you know, I do. So I feel like I'm both. I'm so, I'm so both, you know, I really know. And I, I, I, because I feel like that's been your storyline before where you're, you're battling that.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And I think you're such a great example for women to show the reality of it. That's not like you could do it all. It's like you can. And it's kind of hard. It's hard. You have to like break free of it. You have to break free, it's like a whole process, took me years to get to where I am.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And you're a mom. Right, exactly, a free, it took me years, Hannah, you have no idea. I'm here now though, and I am not moving. You're not moving. Well, I was gonna say, I was researching you before this because I was, I'm excited to interview you. And you got your second envy going out.
Starting point is 00:41:07 You have this podcast, which is so much hard work. And I can write tell you you're such a natural interviewer. But you're just getting started. Oh, yeah, there's so much going on. There is. And I love it. I love every minute of it. That's just who I am, though.
Starting point is 00:41:21 But all good things to you. I really do hope everything goes so perfect on your wedding day. Thank you. Thank you. The podcast, I can't wait to come. We're gonna flip the switch. You're gonna talk to me.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I'm gonna come on your podcast. Okay, so, and I wanna hear about all what's up next for you when I come onto your podcast. We're gonna talk about everything. Let's do it with the comedy tour. You have to tell everybody, when can we hear some of this comedy? Oh yeah, go to Hannaburn.com.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I'm gonna be, I'm in South by Southwest. I'm in Denver, Atlanta, Charlotte. I'm doing another festival in Austin. And I'm in New York City all the time at the stand performing during the week. I definitely should have Joe over to introduce him to them. They're actually Italian run, and they would love to give him spots.
Starting point is 00:42:04 We gotta keep it in the family. We gotta keep it in the family. And great pizza, great pre-governed pizza. And you have follow me at being Burns on Instagram TikTok and listen to my podcast Burning and Hell. And Paige and I have a podcast called Geekly Squad, which is super fun. All great things. But before I let you go, we're going to do a little segment. There's some rapid questions. It's called grilled with gorgah. You're gonna answer these questions pretty quickly. Are you ready? Yes. Okay. Grilled with gorgah. Here we go. Your first celebrity crush. Um, um, chatting to you. Um, your favorite 90s song. Oh, um, um, shit. So, um, what if I said 80s? I know I give people choices 80s or 90s
Starting point is 00:42:49 80s Wait, not shit. I'm getting all my decades confused cuz I'm like I was born in 91 I want to do I saw the sign I saw the sign Then we need to know I want to do I saw the sign Okay, good got it got it love it. What's your biggest regret? Oh God being hard on myself when I was growing up and trying my best There okay best decision. Sorry. That was deep. Yeah, I was like wait I can go really deep right there, but we're just gonna like You're like and that's the whole nother podcast for another time. We can have an hour conversation about that
Starting point is 00:43:33 You should have told me about this earlier, but we'll talk about that another day Damn, all right. Well, now I'm curious What's the best decision you've ever made Well now I'm curious. What's the best decision you've ever made? To leave relationships or situations that give me bad anxiety. Okay, what's your pet peeve? My pet peeve is people who walks slowly. That's the most New York shit ever. That's the most true one.
Starting point is 00:44:13 No one has said that to me yet. That's actually it's my pet peeve. Well, I'm like, get out of my way. Or like, do it on your own. Don't do it in the middle of the sidewalk. Fact. Stroll on the side. Oh my god. Okay, you're worth date.
Starting point is 00:44:25 You've ever been on. Oh, this guy snorted cocaine off my boob. And I didn't know that's what he was doing. What are you talking about? How could you not know someone's doing that? On your boob? He literally told me he's like, I don't party whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:38 And then he like lowered his head and snorted cocaine off my boob. And I was like, what? It's happening. Wow. But that's another puck I swear? It's happening. Wow. But it's another podcast for another time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Wow. Okay, your first concert. This is, I went to Dave Matthews band concert in college because I went to Wisconsin and I never smoked weed before and I smoked weed and I had like a full panic attack and now I can't listen to Dave Matthews. Ha ha ha. I love how everything has an additional story.
Starting point is 00:45:04 It's great. I know you're like, can you be fast with this? I'm like, actually, I can't. No, I like it. I like it. Something about you that would completely surprise us. I mean, we know so much, but give me something that would surprise us. I really like to paint.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I really like to draw on paint. I have a very artsy side to me that is just peaceful and I like to, I'm going to draw in people's faces. Okay, you, your favorite late night snack. Oh, Dalapita. Oh, two rows. Yeah, she gets a pizza. What was your first job? My first job was being a hostess at a Korean restaurant in Brooklyn. Okay. When I was 16. All right, you were the hostess. Korean barbecue.
Starting point is 00:45:52 The hostess with the most is. And I also taught tennis. I was a tennis player back in the day. What's your favorite TV show to binge watch right now? Or what are you watching? I love... Oh yeah, I'm watching Pam and Tommy documentary on Hulu. Oh, I need to watch that. I haven't watched it. It's not a documentary, it's a show, you would love it.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Okay, what the action is amazing. Where is a Netflix? It's on Hulu. Okay. However, Pamela Anderson just announced she's going to do a Netflix documentary to show like the real, real behind it all, so I'm proud of her. Okay. Alright, I'm going to watch both of these. And I always, always end with, how do you treat yourself? So if the day is all about you, what do you do to treat yourself? I love to hang out with my cat named Butter. And I actually like to kind of remove myself from
Starting point is 00:46:40 social situations. And I really like being alone and eating whatever I want to eat and letting myself just relax and not perform for anyone. And yeah, just I'm just v- Just a shame with yourself. I'd say by exactly. All right, listen, you have been so much fun. I'm so glad that you're happy right now. I'm so excited that you're having the beautiful wedding in the Hamptons. Honestly, I wish you nothing but the best. And I can't wait to hear all about everything coming up in your life and really good luck with the wedding.
Starting point is 00:47:14 That's so much fun. Oh my god. Thank you so much, Melissa. This was so much fun and your podcast is awesome. Thank you. I love that. Thank you so much. I'm coming on yours next.
Starting point is 00:47:23 So I will see you soon. Yes, I can't wait. Thank you. All right.. Thank you so much. I'm coming on yours next. So I will see you soon. Yeah, I can't wait. Thank you. All right, we'll talk soon, honey. you you

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