On Display with Melissa Gorga - Unchained Medley (w/ Dorinda Medley)

Episode Date: June 23, 2022

Fresh off of her Ultimate Girls Trip (premiering tonight!), legendary housewife Dorinda Medley joins Melissa to talk about the state of Blue Stone Manor, the origin of "The Dornado," and the evolution of a housewife.   Joe also pops onto the show to share a quick, sincere moment with Dorinda. And yes, this is an episode full of Dorinda-isms. You're welcome.  This week's sponsors: Credit Karma - Debt Consolidation: creditkarma.com/loanoffers  Huggies - Diapers: huggies.com 

You're listening to Melissa Gorga on display with me, Melissa Gorga on podcast one. I'm like, you know, I said to someone the other day, sex for me is like a broken bag. Yeah, I don't have too many. I don't do it too often, but when I do it, it's great. What's up everyone. Welcome to another episode of Melissa Gorga on display. You guys are going to be so excited

today because I have a very special lady with me who we all believe she just, you know, live in New Jersey at this point because she's just like one of us can explain it, but she's one of us. You know her as one of the

former real housewives of New York. She's a business woman and entrepreneur and the lady of the blue stone manner. You can catch her on the next season starting tonight of the ultimate girls trip. Ladies and gentlemen

Jorinda Medley is here. I'm so happy to be on. I love Melissa and Joe so much. I just always have a soft spot for you guys. Thank you. Now, you've always, I will say, you do always come, whenever we see you, you do have a soft spot and you always talk to us and help us through.

I feel like you, there's a piece of you that just feels like one of us. I don't know if it's the Italian or not. Yeah. Well, because you know what? I know how to throw. I know how to be a lady. I know how to be sexy. I know how to be a mom.

And I know how to throw down. You know, I tell it like it is, but I always make it nice. Isn't that the way it goes? It is. It is. I love your isms. I miss your isms. I'm going to miss you on that.

I'm going to miss that whole show, actually. And I do miss you on the show. I feel like you really, you were, you were one of the ladies that came in and just owned it from like day one. It wasn't like you were a newbie ever. You were never a newbie. I'll be just remember.

I knew all those girls for so long. And I've been, you know, I'll end in the background. And we've known each. It's kind of like that's why Jersey works because we really knew each other. So a lot, there's been so many times when I've been off camera with the girls, I'm thinking, God, this would just make a great scene because I think it's so important. As with your show and I think that's why it does so well is that it's authentic.

You know, you can see these girls living like that and you can see them interchained like that. It's not all about the hair and makeup. It's about life. Right. Right. Right, and I would say when you're a good reality star, you have to be ready for the good, the bad, the happy, the sad, and let people cycle through it and see that you're human. I do love for a lot of these women

that get on the show now. They so worry about their image and worry about what a people are going to think. Who gives a shit? Let people cycle through it. Let people love you. Let people hate you. And that's how we learn from women like us, because we are not we're perfectly imperfect. Amen, sister. You couldn't have said it better. And that's the truth. And you know what? You that is the advice I would love to give to any like

newbies starting off on our show or just on all these franchises in general, because what you just said really like pins it. It's like they're gonna love you, they're gonna hate you, they're gonna remember whatever you did last, not what you did good like four months ago. And it is what it is and just be you. I'm curious. Someone said to me, what do you think about

when the grim people and so and so, someone said something bad about you. I'm like, listen, I didn't know the girl before I'm not gonna know, we're asking it asking this is not a popularity contest for me. This is sort of an opportunity for you to see me as a multi, you know, multi functional multi level woman that has all sides. Right. Because that's what we are.

And to tell you the truth, I always say this. I will say it again, I think the women that go in housewives and do it authentically are very brave Because it is much harder to show all sides of you than it is to show one side of you the one side of you is easy Right, and that's but unfortunately if you look in history of women and stuff the women in the 60s 50 60s I only showed one side of themselves ended ended up with major depression, didn't have careers, you know, ended up being very unhappy,

and a lot of times in marriages that didn't work in situations that didn't work for them. We are women, we have many different layers and a successful woman, and a woman that needs to stand forward and a woman that needs to speak her place and peace is really the woman you wanna know. And that's a woman that sometimes can be a little difficult and you know maybe don't understand or 100 percent but that's okay too.

100 percent and I feel like when they come on and just try to show you that good side, everyone sees right through it, when you're fake, when you're not being you, when you're not authentic, everyone sees right through it. And I will say you are definitely one of the real ones when it comes to real life, showing your real life, what you have shown on the show, what we know about you, you know, with a lot of these women, we don't

really know what their relationships were, right? We don't know what their marriages are. We still don't know what they are. And we've known half of them for eight to 10 years. And it's still a fake thing. And I think people can, people can really ween out

who's real on this show and who is not, you know. Well, listen, you have to, we have to talk about to the fact that it's a real incredible gift and burden when you put on these shows. Because you have to keep balancing. Obviously, we are naturally all protective, just as humans, but also to we have children and we have family. And but you wanna just be able to have people learn from you and expose yourself just enough. I hate when people say, well, when people are faltered or people

that are going through terrible times and they don't show everything, well, it's not our job to show absolutely everything, but it's our job to teach people about going through different situations. Right. That's 100% facts. And you would think that's why reality stars, you know, we can be in a room sometimes,

and I know you've experienced this when, you know, the people, there could be major celebs. And I know you roll with some big people too. You go to great events. You're all over New York City and you get invited to beautiful events. You really do, right? And I do as well. There can be a list and I'm talking a list. I know where you're going, yes. Go ahead. They want to know. They want to say hello to us because they know us personally. They want to know more children personally. I was having a conversation about that. What is that?

I was really thinking about it the other day. And I got to tell you what's interesting. There was, there sort of was like the soap opera stars which became very big in our parents and grandparents. Like we thought we knew about this. We fell in love when people got married. We were a hard work on when people died. We attended the theme roles on the, then you, but then you got these people called movie stars.

We played a role and they were able to leave the role and you didn't really feel like you knew the person. You just knew the world they were playing. The thing about when people see us, they have in their minds they see in our children, our homes, our bedrooms, our kitchen. The way we eat, the way we cry, the way we scream, we cycle through.

So all of a sudden there's no proscenium wall and they really have access to us Which I find and I don't know about you, but I thought that the MTV awards and we walked down that red carpet And we forget because remember folks we only filmed four months a year and then we really do go back into our old lights, right? We do So when I got to the MTV Awards, and I don't know if you felt this way, but when to see people just so happy to see you and like really like, oh my God, you made it, now you say, how's Anna doing?

You're like, it's really such a gift. That is the gift. It really is. I just got the chills with you saying that because it's the truth. And I am grateful, and I know you are too. It's something that we're grateful for because we truly were wives and moms and housewives

and just, you know, people just business women trying to make it out there. And this really is a gift and it's such a platform. And I think that people like you and I are very smart. We know how to use it and we appreciate it, right? Absolutely. And I understand there's a beginning in the middle to an end of it.

And while you're doing it, if I give anybody advice that's involved in a situation that you get involved in like this, is just to make sure you keep growing yourself within it and outside of it. Obviously, when I was put out pause two years ago, I was heartbroken because to be honest with the Melissa, I thought I was a great housewife. I was like, I'm one of those housewives they won't get rid of, right? And then boom. And that's the unpredictability of life,

of jobs, of everything. But the good news is, when I went to my mother and I was like, I didn't cry to anybody, I didn't even cry to anybody, and we told you, I'm like, no problem, that's great. You're on pause, you're not fired. Although on the show, you're gonna see on the Ultimate Girl Trip Brand.

And it's like, stop saying you're on pause. You were fired. And I was like, you know, but let me ask you this because I spoke to Tamra judge when I spoke to her about this. How let me ask you, she told me she literally unfollowed

every single housewife and Andy Cohen and every single person on Bravo because it hit her so hard that she didn't wanna see anything housewives, anything Bravo, it took her a real minute to get over it. She said she was deeply, you know, it hurt her bad, and it really like fucked with her head, bad, like she was messing up from outside.

How did it affect you? I think interestingly, the difference with me is I had, you know, remember people like Tamah started the franchise. I mean, these are the real OGs. You know, when you take people like that, it's just they were, they are the faces of the franchise. And when I kind of got into it, it was post, you know, Richard Dying

and Hannah going to college and I was 50. And even though, God, I felt terrible. I went home to my mother and I was like, I get up early, she was like, oh, rejection's protection, just go on and write your book. I went home to my mother and I was like, I gave up on it. She was like, oh, rejection's protection. Just go on and write your book. I just got in a book deal with Simon Schuster. It's funny how God works that way.

You know what I mean? Like a week before I just signed it, and I was thinking, how am I gonna write this book and do the housewives? And their God gave me, she's like, I was like, oh, I'm writing it up. This is exactly how you're gonna do it actually.

Ha, ha, ha. It's a big funny the way the world works. right. This is exactly how you're going to do it actually. Funny the way the world works. I got super lucky in the way that it was COVID. So I was everybody was sort of up, you know, out of it anyway. I was already up in the virtues. And I just, I have a very strong mother who just is all about staying present and really, really, really trying to believe that whatever happens is for a reason. And I just immediately leaned into that. And I hung out to the fact that it was a pause. But I didn't follow anyone. And quite frankly, the way I dealt with it is I just never spoke of it. And I said that at the time to everyone, I'm not going to go on interviews, I'm not going to speak of it. I really didn't have anything bad to say about it. I don't know the inner workings.

We never know the inner workings of Bravo and NBC and why they make the decision. And I don't need to know. They made the decision. And I just used it as an opportunity to pivot. I'm a very good pivoter. You know, if everything, that's one thing I do well and I wrote my book,

I started working on the Blue Sto matter, Violets in the Blue Sto matter bourbon, I started working on a home line. I just kept, I opened up a Shopify, I mean, I sold $125,000 worth of not well-bitch merchandise because everybody used it to think of it. Oh yeah, you have so many of those little saying that are just like, people are just scream.

We are saying that is one thing like the make it nice and where you going without Derand. I mean, there's just so many things that you are just they can make posters and banners of your stuff. Well, I did it. And I just got my forehand and my 85 and 86 year old grandfather's running to you. Yes, and I just think, yes, it was heartbreaking. But I just, I'm gonna tell you something.

I think I've gone through so many different transitions and I've worn so many hats in my life. But I've learned that the most important thing about change is transition. And you just, if you get too stuck, not the tamer was, but I love tamer, you just gotta think that there's a reason for it. So I just kinda have to lean into that belief, that there a reason. And it kind of worked out that it was season 13

didn't wasn't a great season to be on the show. And I was able to sort of really spend time with my parents during COVID, enjoy Bluestar Man or understand the branding of it, be with my family. And quite frankly, just check out the bank. Right. It made me was time for a break. And as you can see, you didn't miss much. That season, obviously. And look at it now. You don't know what's going to happen.

So now it's all about the new stuff. Obviously, we're going to get into this ultimate girls trip, which I, which give me a minute, because we're going to get there. I have a couple of personal questions for you first. And, you know, I did the ultimate girl's trip. But I have a feeling it was a very different ultimate girl's trip than you guys that you guys are going to show us tonight.

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today. So before we move forward, I knew you. Okay. So when I met you, I've seen you out a couple times. You did always have your ex boyfriend, right? And I don't want to get deep into John. Are you still friendly with John? What's your relationship? One thing, it's you can see a story. I'm still friendly with my? What's your relationship? One thing, you can see a story. I'm still friendly with my first husband. He was just at my house for Father's Day. I do love this person. Yes.

Ralph was a huge part. Well, it's always been a huge part of my life. Ralph was there when Richard passed. Ralph is still, listen, I am very much, I've never dated a lot of people. People can Google that. It's not for a reason like Ramon who wants to make dated a lot of people. People can Google that. It's not for a reason like Ramon wants to make it out.

I'm this, I'm approved. I just get very attached very easily if I get to them. I'm very careful about who I pick. And then when I keep them, I get very attached. And I don't believe that you can have people in your life for these periods and have children, have experiences and have love and share your bed. And then get rid of them.

I think that things change and you adjust and maybe they don't play that same role. And each person that I've had, you know, Ralph whose Hannah's father is just a wonderful guy. He was a really great choice for a father and a husband at the time. It didn't work out for its reasons. But we never not stayed a family.

And we made that commitment. I remember the day we got officially divorced, Ralph and I we balled our eyes out. We went and had lunch at a diner and he said, you problems, we I was like, here's the keys to my apartment. Don't listen to that every Wednesday night. I never sounded. And I used to make lasagna on Wednesday nights when Hannah had, when Ralph had Hannah. So she did not to go out like all these other upweaside kids on Wednesday nights wandering around with their poor fathers that didn't want to be out on the Wednesday night. And I would leave the apartment so Ralph could be with Hannah

in her environment and like have like a nice time with her. And it was the same. And then, you know, I wouldn't have had Richard in my life if he didn't get along with Ralph today, the truth. I wouldn't have had Richard in my life if he didn't get along with Ralph the day of the truth. I wouldn't have. So, you're still friendly with your ex, John. You guys are friendly. We just texted yesterday, happy Father's Day.

You know, I met, we met, yeah, I miss you. You know, I don't, it was John and I, John played. Every, when I look at the different hen and I were talking about the other day, the different men in my life. I don't know if I was meant to be a woman that was meant to be married. As Catholic and as traditional as I am, I at a very young age knew that I was going to transition a lot.

I came from a family that I have a lot of money, working class, never was educated. And I knew that there was going to be different steps in my life. I had to take, I didn't consciously say, oh my god, I'm only going to have a husband for this time. But I've had huge growth spurts, you know, I left Great Britain and moved to Hong Kong and lived in London. It was a single mom and then you know, Mary demand it was very violent politics and shifted to that world and you know, I just feel like I've always wanted to be so much. And sometimes I think, because Hannah was saying to me,

do you ever regret divorcing dad? I said, I never regret marrying dad. So, which is a very different thing. Two different things, two different things, right. But we just grew out of each other. Which a lot of people do. It's a normal thing. A lot of people do it.

There's no hate there. Not zero. What is your secret to? I'm in big trouble today. I'm as good as God is my heart. If I were to throw trouble today, one of the first people I call was Ralph Lynch and that he would literally,

when I called and said to him, Richard said, I need somehow he jumped in his car to the hospital. He would run. Yeah. Well, that's everything. I mean, what is your secret for saying, so like close or with an ex or healthy,

having a healthy relationship with an ex? I mean, do you have any tips for any of these girls out there that some people they break up and they want it to be healthy and it'm still be friends after. People need to reach men and women have to read the signs in a relationship and understand when you're no longer growing and understand that like your happiness and the other person's happiness without involving jealousy and whatever that means. It's very important. I knew when Ralph and I decided to separate,

he wasn't happy with me and I wasn't happy with him. So we were beating at that horse now, could we have played it out? And I could have been, you know, he, when he started dating someone else that I still feel jealous, yes, but that was territory. That was in love. That was my Italian jealousy because I'm very happy. Oh, I always say territory. That was in love. That was my Italian

jealousy because I'm very I always say that. That is two different things. So a lot of times I even realized this with old ex-boyfriends that I had before Joe. I didn't love them. I was I was it was very territorial. It was very possessive. It was like I don't really want you, but I'm not going to let her have you. So it wasn't true love, you know what I'm saying? Well that's it, it's me. You have to know, like I knew what I, I knew that I wasn't happy and he wasn't happy, but I also knew that my God,

this was the wonderful father to my daughter, and I had to make sure that I was getting divorced and she wasn't, you know, that she never felt like we were anything less than a family. And Hannah always says that, I never felt like, like I never really thought that like you would, like people would be like, your parents are divorced, two and she'd say, oh, not really, because he's in my living room all the time. Also, too, I didn't put a, and this is just a choice, I'm not saying it's a good thing, but when I got divorced from Ralph, like I wasn't out there trying to meet someone again. I really am about building on the life you have and making it better, not just throwing

new people in and just trying to do quick fixes. So I was very careful about the next person I chose for myself, for my daughter, for my life, for our family, for everything. And you know, Richard was another just, I was very lucky. Thank God, Richard was a very wonderful man too. We were very blessed. I only had him six years, but as my mother said, you know, at the time, if you came back and said, I'm only going to be with you six years, but it's going to be six great years. Would you take someone and say, yes, you're right. We're going to have to check out. So don't be greedy. All right. I always loved him. My mother said that was such a transitional time for point. And you know, now I'm out there again.

Your mother says a lot of wise things. It sounds like your mother gives you a lot of advice. She's a character. And now I'm out there trying to date again, but you know, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it little love life situation. Are we dating, Dorenda? Are we seeing anyone? Are we? What? I've not been asked anybody officially, but you know what, tell myself out there. One person I really liked, but I'm very bad at judging. Like, people that like me back, because if I like you,

then I like you so much and I've planned out our whole life. But I get very disappointed. I'm kind of like a turtle that finally sticks its head out. And then when the head is there, when it gets hurt, I go right back into my shell. I'm like, screw you guys on the back end. We'll have to say out of all the girls.

Because I as tough as I am Melissa and as things I get hurt very easily by people. As a lot of my life last shout and do things is because I'm actually hurt and I've tried to work on that therapy, but it doesn't work because my tiny thumbs out and I'm just like fuck. You pull a Joe Gorga when someone doesn't play rent on TMZ. That's what you're going to pull. I can't. Oh my god. Joe Gorga just came walking into my studio. I was like, don't know. I love Joe Gorga.

I know. I'll let him say hi to you. I'll let him say hi. Joe, you want to say hi to the Rinda real quick? My favorite, Joe Gorgah. Joe, I was just, I was just thinking your praises today, Joe Gorgah. What? Yeah, I said, Joe Gorgah is my kind of man. He gets up in the morning. He tells it like it is. I got to take that and I love that video because someone lived in my apartment.

Was a pain rep. And I was like it is. I got to take that and I love that video because someone lived in my apartment, was in pain, and I was like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm here to wait. I'm, I'm hashtag gojo, I'm this one. Durinda, look at this. Look at this.

Durinda, he's got his work boots on right now. Daddy work. Durinda, do you? Durinda, do you? Do you work? I pack you lunch every day. Every day with a canister with hot soup in it. I'm ready to work. Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work?

Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work?

Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work?

Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? Do you work? That's very sexy to me, a hard worker. Thank you. I wearied a man for less. I married a man for less. I love you. You're so wise. What do you do dinner? Okay.

Love you. He's going back to me. I do you think. But to render, by the way, do you know how many people text me when he had that video rant with TMZ saying like, go Joe. People need to pay the rent. Like, they were so team Joe with that. They were like, black guys, as he should be ashamed of himself. All right. Well, anyway, I'm going to like transition a little bit into the ultimate

girl's trip that comes out today. June 23rd on Peacock TV listeners. You guys have to check it out. I know how much you guys all loved the first ultimate girl's trip. I will say just from the trailer. This one looks a little different than our like Kubaia Turks and Kiko's. Oh yeah. Like it looks different. Okay, so you're there. We have Fadra. We have Brandi, we have Taylor, we have Tamra, we have Eva, we have Jill Zaren, right? Am I missing anyone? And you.

And Vicki. Oh my God, and Vicki too, we have, wow. Now these are. I remember we're stuck, it's different because we're not in a hotel. We are through those gates stuck up in Bluestone Manor for eight days. And remember, we were just getting over quarantine in COVID.

So there wasn't a lot to do. So a lot of it takes place in Bluestone Manor, breakfast, lunch, dinner. Those cameras were on 12, 13, 14 hours a day. At Bluestone Manor. So it was a lot of, it was a very old school and a weird way for me. Because when I first went on the housewives, that's how they did it. Like they

just were in your rooms. They were. Yes. Best restaurants. Yeah. And right. Women that some of them, I knew some of them, I didn't. And you know, it's it's I've never, believe it or not, I've never really had anyone at Bluestone matter for eight days because people think I live there, but it's really my country house. It's my second home. So, you know, people come up for the weekend. So the way I go to my short house, that's where you go for the weekend. I'm not even having all those new women from all different franchises come into your short house for eight days. And you know, no, we do film at my show house, but we do like a two-nighter and by the end of the night, I was a girl. You know the girls, I didn't know Faye, I didn't know, I mean, I better.

Funny thing is Faye just like, you know, we were on watch for half of the slide. One year together, I'm like, were we? Like we totally blanked out. But I didn't really know her, I didn't really know Eva. I really didn't, I never met Taylor,. I think I've never built the K ones. We were just coming out of COVID. So I was like, what's it gonna be like even happening? Because we're all kind of bit, we are during a pandemic, right? We all kind of got set in our ways.

We were all kind of just introverted. We learned to just play on the internet, order tie-dye outfits. And get very sort of like, you know, insular a little bit. And which it was gonna be four days I have a lot of people who are really, really, really, really really, really, really, really really, really, really, really really, really, really, really

really, really, really, really, really really, really, really, really, really really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, over 100 people, one and they came like six days before to set up and it was poor depots and connections and so it was it for I don't know how it was in church and gay is but it was a totally different production. Totally different. Like there was cameras in the middle of the night. It felt like you were in the big brother house. Almost like the old MTV show. What correct? Right. That's how this goes drones everywhere drones everywhere cameras in every corner if you went out to get a snack in the middle of the night you were being recorded it was so different by the way you were great to have like it would be you know the thing

that's different it's my house and it's a house that I sort of really cherish and I'm really curated and so to have people kind of come in and just some of them understood it, some of them then, you know, I'm the hostess now, which was a world I didn't really realize was gonna be so, you know, it's hard to occupy eight girls for eight days. Oh my God, you know how much work that is?

I mean, listen, this is a wild cast, so I have to ask you, like did Bluestone Manor survive the ultimate girl's trip? Is there broken sconces on the floor? Are there, you know, did they take anything? Are there holes in your walls? Like how did it survive? No, it was pretty good. You know, I think because it was such a different level of production. But I was frightened because sometimes, you know,

I would see things going off and I'm like, this isn't a normal place. Like if you something. It taught me something. I had to like, I'm a bit of a control freak anyway, and I had to really release control. Do the fourth thing in, I cried my eyes out. I think the JP it was, and I went to bed. I'm like, I'm just the one I do this. I wonder what I say. I really don't want to get wet my out anymore. I have been there. I have been there. I have been there. I was mentally exhausted. I was physically exhausted. You know, there was something, you know,

as a hostess, you want to, like everybody to be as enthusiastic as you and you know, there were some people that were thrilled to be doing activities. There were other people that were like, there was definitely, glass half full, glass half empty. Right. You know, at first I could be very enthusiastic

about it. But the fourth day I'm like, I don't give a fuck if you want to do this from now. You're fucking doing it, okay? So then the durenda's coming out. The New Yorkers comes right out. I want more Taylor called me the Dornado. Oh my God, I can't.

But so that's what I figure. Just knowing this group of ladies, like none of them are wilting flowers. Let's just say that no one is. These are the I would say the the if we had to pick the feces. If I had to pick the ones that are going to say it the most. They put you guys all together in your home. I mean, easy. A lot of green bees. You know, these are all the girls that like, you know, kind of will the worst on their shows. But I will say something I became incredibly, incredibly close to Fager and Eva, which I really was so happy

about because I was like, kind of, are they going to like me? Are they going to like the house? Are they going to? There was all that too, because not everybody likes the house, like you heard from Big E. She didn't like it. You know, but you know, it's, it's your home. So you're very sensitive about that. But, you know, Fager became sort of a, it's that, you know, I'm not very good at, I'm always the person people come to to be consoled.

I don't have a lot of women in my life. I can go be consoled by. And I can really knock on Fager's door and she'd be like, hello, I'm like, I just thought to put it in my head. She'd be like, come on in and she would talk me through it. And it was just really just a strong sensible calm voice of reason.

Wait, who was it? Who was that that was your voice of reason? We live on ourselves. And beautiful, like stunningly, listen, we've all seen this. She is beautiful. But you've seen her on the Marriott Pond. And you're like, okay, that's a beautiful girl.

But when she's in real life, I mean, I actually said to her, I sound like such a kiss of, because I met her, I said, what is it like to walk through the world with that kind of beauty? Because it is powerful to have that kind of beauty. It is. It is.

She is beautiful. She's beautiful, beautiful woman. She's on the inside and very interesting and very layered. Like she wears these beads all around her tummy. There's something like these, some sort of ritual and you know, she's just a multi layered. And we really didn't get to see that on Atlanta or just I did. And then Taylor came and I thought, oh, Taylor's just going to be sort of like the quiet one because that's how we remembered her when she left the show. She kind of was a little broken and really couldn't she came out like a tiger. I was like that's what Taylor

did she? Wow. I'm not surprised. Voice. You know, she's happy. She's in a good place. She's actually now holds all these seminars for battered women. Like she's really, and that's you know what I love about going back to what we were talking about before. You know, there's something beautiful to watch and to witness is the evolution of a housewife. I know I, even going out at 50, grew so much in so many different ways.

A lot of the confidence and in business and being able to publicly speak and having a voice and not being afraid and being less fearful and not being so self-conscious. Like the evolution of a what housewife and I always say that you should look for in a good housewife is

the evolution of a housewife. 100% 100%. So I mean, let me ask this, was there anything that started that has carried over into real life now? is there still a couple of things that went on and went down in that house that you guys, there's some ladies who are unsettled still and kind of not speaking to each other? I mean, I can probably solve the press about Vicki. I didn't realize, you know, Vicki came and said, you know, she didn't interview with Bravo TV.

She's going to tell me because she keeps telling me to knock it off, but she did it. She didn't interview with Bravo TV. she's gonna tell me because she keeps telling me to knock it off. But she did it. She didn't even do the Bravo TV. She said, you know, the witness takes it to my taste. It's an old house in the middle of nowhere with nothing to do. And I was just like, okay, those are fighting words, okay? So it definitely, this kind of stuff,

because here's the thing folks, you can come after me, but you can't come after the lady, Bluestro Manor, because she is beloved. She is the Disney land of Bravo TV. That girl, you cannot come after Bluestro Manor. That's shit ain't gonna fly. So of course people didn't like it, because you don't have to love the way Bluestro Manor is. It may not be your taste, but it's not some old place in the middle of nowhere. I mean, it's in the Berkshire's. It may not be your taste. Oh my God. It's like monumental. It's insane. Like you've invited me there actually a couple times. I never come. And I'm coming. I'm coming. And we always say, I want to do the fall. Like I think I would love

the fall there. That would be my favorite. Listen, the thing about it's just a magical place, and it means a lot to me and holds a lot of memories. And we did, you know, we did, and I mean, Richard Microsoft did a beautiful job, but not only renovating it, but restoring it. I mean, I think the thing that kind of bothered me when Becky said that, I mean, she was talking like it, like I was like, yeah, we, you know, we actually have running water in toilets.

I mean, it's actually a beautiful, we architect your dog, Dennis, and Wall Street Journal had it in their publication. So architect your dog, just a Wall Street Journal, how did it, there, their publication. So something's nice about it, right? So back, got me out. And that kind of, I didn't really realize that, but I think Fiki was going through a bad time when she came up to the house. And I don't think she really was fully,

like some of the girls were really more in it than others. Got it. And she wasn't. And you'll see that, like right from the time she gets, I watched the first episode. And wait is she gets to the gate. She starts, oh my God, this is where are we?

I don't know where it is. Look at that house. It looks scary. The complaining started. Yes. Yes. And I can totally see that rubbing you the wrong way.

I mean, come on. Yes. Yes. 100%. To me, when I'm showing them, I'm like, I'm gonna lift me. What do you do around here? We do this.

We hang out. We look at the view. We relax. And actually, you know, there's a lot to do in the purchase. I actually, you know, like I said, I go down five days and come back to use your Mondays. So it's, it's, it's, but if you want to go to Shakespeare and company, if you want to go to the Boston Symphony, if you want to go to the Boston Symphony, or if you want to go to

Tango Wood, or if you want to do, there's all kinds of stuff you can do there. I don't particularly because I always have a lot of company and for dinner parties and part of the botanical garden and Chesterwood and have my kind of group, you know, Huntslom just moved down the street from me. He bought the castle. So like I have this curated little, almost, you know what it is for me? The burks for me are very reminiscent of living in my days living

in London, Britain, because it's very dinner party, very old school. But that's what I want to need. It's such a vibe. It just wants to picture your Christmas the way you decorate everything. Well, let me just

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and it's called grilled with gorga, okay? It's just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- Let me just say something. I'm not just saying this, it's your very good on this podcast girl. Oh my God. Thank you. You're so natural. Thank you. Thank you so much. I love you for saying that. And I know you're so good with radio too. So coming from you. Thank you. With me and just welcoming and it's fluid. I gotta say I'm

I'm impressed and very not surprised, but just very impressed. Oh my gosh. Thank you. I love that. Thank you so much. Thank you. You've always been a woman supporting a woman though. So I love that about you. So thank you. But good. I'm glad I'm glad I'm like, you know, I'm glad I'm pleased to hear you right now. So, all right. So listen to this.

We're going to do this fun little thing. It's called grilled with gorgah. Okay. Rapid fire question. Just give me your quick answers. Okay, are you ready to be grilled? I am ready to be grilled. Okay, your first celebrity crush. My first celebrity crush was the guy from

what was his name, Peter Frampton. I don't even know who that is, who is that? What movie was he? My first to me when I was 16, Peter Fract in the singer. Oh, baby, I love your way. That guy. OK, I know. I know.

I don't know where. I don't know names. But OK, OK, I love that. OK, what's your favorite 80 song? I'll tell you what my son, I love this song. Cat Touches. Oh, MC Hammer. Yes.. And and and and and. Oh, MC Hammer.

Yes. I can do the dance too. Kid and also MC Hammer. I love you. So I want you to know. I love that song because I'm I'm a singer. I see it to hand all the time. Durant, I am such a big 80s girl.

Like if it were up to me, we would be. I want you saying it. I see it to hand all the time. Durant, I am such a big 80s girl. Like if it were up to me, we would live in the 80s. I'm not too terrope. Ah, I know you do. You do. And I just threw like a really fun roller skating 80s party. That's my jam. I would just I want to live in the 80s. I want to listen to you. If you would, Joe, me, we could go to the roller skating ring and rock a bus center.

They play the best music. You're going to want to show them every song. It is unbelievable to go to rock the center, they play the best music. You're gonna watch your jam every song. It is unbelievable to go to rock the center everyone at eight, nine, and I have a drink, go roller skating, and just be in the middle of New York City roller skating. It is phenomenal. Do you know I've never done that? I need to do that.

I definitely need to do that. I just opened up like six months ago, and it's amazing. Before we go to the next question, I need you to sing my song for a minute because you're saying it. Sing my song during a, sing my song. Well, yeah, I know it's on display, on display,

but what did I say before? Who said, you said in control, in control. Oh, yeah, I want to sing your song, in control, in control, in control. You gotta be, you're like, no I'm like it's on display on display that on display thing and I stress you have the dancing way so for everyone who doesn't know Dorenda came in before just literally thinking she was singing my song and she was like in control in control in control I'm like no, it's not. It's on display. Jesus. I love it. Okay. What is your biggest regret you've ever had?

My biggest you mean on housewives are just presently in life. You're biggest regret. I was so funny. Hannah just asked me that the other day day I know what my biggest regret in life is not Believing in myself enough. I really was in my early 20s and 30s I was very doubtful of myself and I definitely lead to Men like my husbands to grow my grow myself within I was like an egg in their nest I had to find a comfortable nest in my husband's to grow and really I, I was what I looked back now. I was such a great and both husbands have said this, you know, I was such a great, I, I, the reason I say this and before people start slamming on me, because I was watching the first ladies, I don't know if you watched that series on for Netflix, it's about the

different wives of presence. And just how they played such a huge behind the scene role in their lives. And now they're bringing these women forward, Betty Ford, Michelle Obama, Eleanor Roosevelt, like these women were behind the scenes just keeping it all together. You know, secretly, quietly, quietly, all right. Doing the dirty work, supporting, raising the family, and making their mark. And I don't regret it.

I just wish that I was a little bit more confident as a woman in her 20s. That's fair. That's fair. What is the best decision you've ever made? The best. Well, the best decision, I mean, beside having Hannah, which is the obvious one, the best decision I ever made was,

the best decision I've ever made throughout my whole life in transitions is always staying close to God. Oh, I love that. Thank you, Jesus. Nobody's true. No, that is true. I always leaned on my spirituality and it's never failed me. It's my best handshake I've ever had. Wow. I love that.

You just, that just hit me. That's amazing. Love that. For real. What is your pet peeve? What drives you crazy? Errogance. Fair.

Good. Okay. Worst date you've ever been on. Worst date. Oh my God. Just recently. I've been on a guy that was told me that he was going to take, he took, this is Gapaloo, he said, let me teach you a few things and I said, let me tell you something. I, I said, I already can't handle it. I already know how you

looked at him when he said, I literally was on my second right to you. And he said, like, and let me just, he said, do you mind if I just take a moment, maybe teach you something? He said, first of all, I wish you wouldn't talk about your husband so much because probably future dates are going to like that. So that rubbed me wrong. And second, which may be some truth in it, but it rubbed me wrong. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I think there's a little truth in that. But go ahead. Rubbed me wrong. We were too early in the day for, too early in the dates for him to say that. Second of all, but I did take it in the day for you, or you're early in the dates for me to say that. Okay. Second of all, but I did take it as a fight spiked away. So I did, because I do tend to do that.

I put on a new pair. So I go out and said, let me teach you something. I said, let me tell you something. But I'm a dog that's been in traffic. I've crossed that fucking highway. I've crossed it back. I've gotten hit by a couple of dogs, the cars. You don't need me how to play in traffic, sir.

Don't teach me shit. and I got up and left. Oh, wow, that's a shitty day. That was a shitty day. Did you eat? Did you have a cocktail first? Anything? Geez. We did.

We had a couple cocktails in eight, but I left before like, ooh, he was not for you, not for you. You are so, you are like amazing with quotes, by the way. Like you are, you got a million up your sleeve. I just want to tell you that. All right. What was, I think it's hard. You know, I think it's, I think the problem is being out there dating again for me, and I said this the other day to someone is that, you know, I'm a pretty evolved woman.

I know what I like. I've had some pretty great people, friends, experiences. But, you know, I just, I don't know. I just hope to God that there's someone out there that can fit with me still. I pray to God. There is, there is. He's gonna have that vibe that you have. It's gonna be that old school.

It's gonna be very similar to a Mr. Joe Gorgah for real. It's gonna be like hard working. You know what? I think I could be British. Yeah, I think you could. Yeah, you you definitely could because you have that sternness about you and quirky and dry and you know what I mean.

All right. What was the first? You don't realize it, but I'm quirky as shit. You are quirky. You definitely are. I love that about you. What what was your first concert you've ever been to in your life? I'll tell you exactly it was it was the Genesis light show that's back.

Oh, amazing. Tell me something about you that would surprise us. I'll tell you something that people don't live with that. I'm very, very passionate and very, very, when I am involved in a relationship, I'm very sexual. Are you? There is a sexual? I'm very, people don't realize that. I'm like a cheerleader, when I'm in it, I'm in it. Really do you like to do the lingerie? You put on all the pretty clothes?

Wow. But I don't do it often. I'm like, you know what? I said to someone the other day, sexually is like a broken bag. Yeah, I don't have too many. I don't do it too often, but when I do it, it's great. I'm the broken bag. When I said to someone the other day, sex for me is like a broken bag. Yeah, I don't have too many. I don't do it too often. But when I do it, it's great.

I'm the broken bag. When you do it, you do it right. This is why I keep myself very flexible. This is why Joe Gorgher hates me. But your favorite late night snack. What do you eat at night when you're watching TV? My favorite late night snack is the same

thing every time. It is a small scoop of friendly's vanilla ice cream. Hershey's syrup crushed almonds and cool with every night. Not every night, but that's my special. I love it. The sugar, but that's so. So, the thing that especially would like a wafer. Nice. Okay. What was your first job you ever had? You're a very first job. My very first job was, again, I was an ice cream

school friendlies. I ran the window. I think ice cream window. Look at that. I was looking at it. I was so good at it. You gave people the right amount. You didn't zip them.

You gave them a nice, you mean, frugal of. Oh my God. I love it. What show are you watching right now on TV? So what are you like binge watching right now? I just, well, I just finished the first wife, which is incredible on Netflix. I've been doing a lot of streaming and I'm definitely watching Beverly Hills. Oh, yes. Well, aren't we all. I love it. I love the girls. I feel like I

know them all. I, you know, I was, I saw Kyle the other night and I just love those girls. I just think, you know, why again? Because they're authentic. I do too. I do too. I watch it too. I'm being honest with you. I watch it too. And I'm also watching, I just finished that terrible one that freaked me out yellow jackets. But it was yellow jackets. Everyone loves that. I couldn't get into it. I don't know why.

It's good. Okay, well here's the thing. I always end with this question. If the day is all about Dorenda, how does Dorenda treat herself? How do you treat yourself? Oh my God, I'll tell you how I treat myself. But I try to do this on Sundays.

I check the stuff out. I turn off my phone. I focus on being quiet. I try to be outside. I try to walk and exercise and just like really try to, we connect with myself without any outside noise. I try to go very old fashioned, like listen to people, have conversations, and really if anybody could do a gift from themselves,

choose a day a week or a day a month and turn the digital shit off. It changes your life. I call the digital detox. I need to take your your advice to be honest, but it's so true. It's taken it's taken over everything. And you know, we're going to find folks that really interesting people could anchor you. I was trying to call you out there. It's like, well, you know what? I wasn't available. It's Sunday. And it's the Lord's day. It's the Lord's day. Did anyone die? Like this constant, this thing I've been really talking

to Hannah Bowen taught and just questioning myself and said he was, this constant connection is constantly being connected, feeling responsible to be connected. But you're responsible to respond so quickly. It's killing me. It's killing me. Like I launched at the time of night at a concert,

you should have said, mom, when you look to London and you had me, you had no cell phones. I'm like, no cell phones or nothing. She said, well, when you went out, what did you do? I said, I left the number with the restaurant. She says, Oh my God, was that scary? I'm like, well, you're standing here today? And the thing that the days of like just being at a restaurant and really being forced to be engaged and communicate and just be even the awareness that you when you don't have your phone, you'd be surprised how much more you're aware of your surroundings.

And just using your brain. And it's good for your posture. Oh, well, Dorenda, listen, I'm a fan. I have always been a fan. No, for real, I've always been a fan since day one. Thank you so much for coming on today. I love talking to you listeners. Everyone do yourself a favor. Make sure you check out the Brenda on the latest season of the Ultimate Girls trip. It's need to see you soon. I need to come falls coming. I'm coming to the birch. You know, my doors open, my gates are open. I know, I know. So good to see you. Bye. Oh you