One Song - A Tribe Called Quest's "Electric Relaxation"

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Relax yourself and settle into part two of One Song’s A Tribe Called Quest deep dive with Relax yourself and settle into part two of One Song’s A Tribe Called Quest deep dive with “Electric Rela...xation.” This week, Diallo and LUXXURY discuss Tribe’s shift towards a grittier sound on Midnight Marauders, Diallo shares his old lunchroom lyrical theories, and LUXXURY recreates one of Q-Tip’s mindblowing samples.  Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com/onesong today. Stop putting off those doctor’s appointments and go to ZocDoc.com/OneSong to find and instantly book a top rated doctor today. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ONESONG and get on your way to being your best self. Don’t cut corners on your grooming routine— Visit Manscaped.com and use code ONESONG to get 20% off plus free shipping. Songs Discussed: “Electric Relaxation” - A Tribe Called Quest “Nuthin’ But A “G” Thang” - Dr. Dre ft. Snoop Dogg “Bring Da Ruckus” - Wu-Tang Clan “I Went For Mine” - Diamond and The Psychotic Neurotics “I Got Cha Opin” - Black Moon “One Love” - Nas ft. Q-Tip “Return of the Boom Bap” - KRS-One “Take It Personal” - Gang Starr “On and On” - Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth “Midnight Marauders Tour Guide” - A Tribe Called Quest “Sucka N*gga” - A Tribe Called Quest “Red Clay” - Jack Wilkins “The Chase Part II” - A Tribe Called Quest “Outside Love” - Brethren “Mystic Brew” - Ronnie Foster “Forbidden Fruit” - J. Cole ft. Kendrick Lamar “Lyrics To Go” - A Tribe Called Quest “Dreams” - Ramsey Lewis “Knockin’ Da Boots” - H-Town “8 Million Stories” - A Tribe Called Quest “Resurrection (Extra P. Remix)” - Common “Dreadlocks Dub” - Bullwackie’s All Stars “Out Of Bounds” - Koastle, Conrad & DLG Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, this is your one-song podcast. We'll be enhancing your appreciation of a tribe called Quest. This is Part 2, a song of The Midnight Marauders. Luxury. Today's song is one of the defining tracks of Mid-90s hip-hop. That's right, Diallo. This song has been featured on a slew, slew of best-of-list. In fact, Rock the Bell's named it the third greatest hip-hop beat of all time just last year.
Starting point is 00:00:25 That's right, off the platinum selling, classic record Midnight Marauders from a Tribe called This song would go on to be one of the most recognizable in the group's storied discography. Relax yourself. Sit back and enjoy. It's electric relaxation from a Tribe Call Quest. I'm actor-writer-director and sometimes DJ Diallo Riddle. And I'm producer, DJ, songwriter, and musicologist luxury, aka the guy who whispers... You like that one.
Starting point is 00:01:08 That was a good whistle. Oh, thank you. If you want to watch one song, please go to our YouTube channel and watch this full episode. And while you're there, please like and subscribe. You know, in the last episode, we talked at length about how, you know, moving out of people's instinctive travels, they really adopted, like, this attempt to bring low-end bass and, like, stand-up bass and really just own jazz in ways that, like, almost nobody else in hip-hop could have done. There were other people who were doing it and people who had done it.
Starting point is 00:01:35 But as you said in that last episode, they really just exploded big with the way that they did it. Yeah, it was finding the samples. It was also taking specific samples, like the loops that. themselves. We're not just jazz because of the instrumentation. It's because of some of the chord changes. It's a lot of the sort of more colorful, spicy notes that you find outside of the pop and funk and rock cannon for that matter. It gives it a sort of sophistication to some of the choices. Right. I'm so glad you bring up sophistication because there's also, it wasn't just the sample. It was the way they layered the sample. So it created a sort of a one plus one equals three
Starting point is 00:02:06 level of music results. Absolutely. And we're going to be getting to that when we get into the stems. I was actually, for this episode, I did something a little different where I was, I just decided to recreate. Did you clear this with me? I did my best to recreate not just what the samples were, but how they were chopped up because it's only been two years, but the ability to manipulate samples only gets easier during this time. There are
Starting point is 00:02:26 some of the earliest computers that are replacing the need to have perfectly lined up cutting from vinyl or using small samples from the earlier samplers. They have some greater capabilities and what they do with that is really remarkable in this song. D'allel, we mentioned at the end of the last episode, which you should go back and listen
Starting point is 00:02:42 to if you haven't already, Tribe Call Quest and We mentioned that it's just two years apart, but it's almost like two completely different worlds at this point in hip-hop. It definitely felt like rap was in a different place. You know, by 93, like West Coast had emerged as like a leader of this like brighter, more G-funk and fluent sound.
Starting point is 00:03:00 It's important to note that the low-in theory comes out in 91. Then the chronic comes out and just explodes. Like, it's not just a big record in terms of hip-hop, but like people who had never listened to hip-hop before are suddenly listening to it. that video for nothing but a G thing is everywhere. And I think the New York, which had always been the home and the hub and the center of hip-hop,
Starting point is 00:03:22 there was no way they could ignore just the explosion of culture that was sort of led by The Chronic. So by the time Midnight Marauders comes, you know, Q-Tips heard a lot of new influences. Yeah, and Q-Tip himself says, when we put out low-in theory, Drey was like, I just did this thing called The Chronic when I heard your joint. In other words, Drey was influenced for the chronic bylaw in theory, exactly. That's crazy. Which, as he, Tip goes on to say in the same quote, that made me make my joint. So in other words, that influence was there.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And then when Tip heard the chronic, I was like, ah! And we made Midnight Marauders. And then he goes on to say, and then he put out Snoop and I heard Wu-Tang, and I was like, I'm going to go home and eat pie. That's a really funny line. Yes, he did. He's a funny guy. I love Q-Tip. I love K-Tin.
Starting point is 00:04:09 He's the same guy who said, it's like butter, baby. It's like butter. One thing I noticed about the chronic, even at the time, was that it was clean. Like, it sounded really clean coming out of the speakers that you got put into your Honda at Allen Ed's Auto Center. It's like that, like this, and it's like that, and it's like this. And who gives a fuck about those? So just chill. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:33 Right, right. It was like the music was clean. The speakers were louder. And it was all rushing towards this new musical aesthetic. But it would have maybe gotten there on the chronic. had not the low-in theory, you know, come out. It's true. And the chronic was built completely differently,
Starting point is 00:04:47 and we do have an episode about that. You should go back and listen to nothing but a G-thing about this record. But an important thing is that because Dre's moving away from sampling where a lot of that crackle resides, a lot of the dust and dirt of the past, the 70s, the sound of that is baked into the recording. Since he's interpolating,
Starting point is 00:05:03 and of course the use of the specific instruments to record the baselines, et cetera, the sum total of how that record gets made is a big part of where this clean aesthetic is coming into because they're moving away from relying so much, I should say, on samples. It's not completely without sample. No, that's a really good point.
Starting point is 00:05:20 By the way, anytime there's like a big moment in pop culture or music or whatever, there's always a, it's usually a reaction to something, and then there's the reaction to the reaction. Yeah. And at this time, when the West Coast goes so clean and so big and so bright, New York as a city and as a culture in itself responded with a darker
Starting point is 00:05:41 and more visceral. We're gritty. We're going to show you how gritty we are. Midnight Marauders came out on the exact same day as entered the 36 chambers. That's so crazy to me. I love that fact. At the time that I heard that album,
Starting point is 00:05:50 I'll never forget it. It's one of those clear memories in my past. I remember a friend played it, and it was so dark, and it was so un James Brown sampley. Like, I remember turning him and saying, is this hip-hop? How the fuck you get enslaved man boots?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Newbie crooks. I'm fucking up. M.C. Chops, I break blooms. Like, that's how different Wu-Tang sounded. But Wutang wasn't the only person who was going in that darker, dustier direction. You know, like artists like Diamond D and the psychotic neurotics.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Artists like On. I love the name. Oh, Diamond D. Oh, they have one of the greatest songs. I went for mine. The album comes out. Everyone says, oh, man, take that record off. Don't waste my time.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Due to that fact, I went for mine. And then you've got artists like Daz Effects. You know, Riggity row. They literally say, we're bringing it up from the sewer. And you've got Black Moon, you know, with such classic songs as I Got You Open. A Q-Tip being in New York is digesting all this too. And he's letting it be known more and more that he is a producer of his music.
Starting point is 00:06:59 So whereas we thought it was all Ali Shaheed Muhammad before, we suddenly knew the Q-Tip was a producer into his own right. He's got one of my favorite songs of this period. Another sort of moody jazz classic off of the Iomatic record, and that is One Love by Nas. You was my nigger when push came to shop One love One love
Starting point is 00:07:18 No I'm trying to wrap my head around Tell me your thoughts on this How? Because I know that is Boombap But why is that boom bap? Like tell me like what are I'm trying to find the characteristic
Starting point is 00:07:35 Is it the snare sound Where the kicks are kind of stuttering It's kind of 95 BPM-ish Plus or minus So like how would you define Real quick I would say the boom bap Is specifically
Starting point is 00:07:46 sort of like What they were doing in the late 80s And early 90s Keras 1 has a whole album called Return of the Boom Bap, which means just that the return of the real hard beats and real rap. And musically, how would you define it musically? It's really just that sort of like skip step beat that you hear. So that you hear.
Starting point is 00:08:10 That you hear on DJ premiere tracks and Pete Rock tracks. And I always said that like, you know, if you were walking in New York, I don't think it's an accident that you can walk to the pace of like about a 92, a 95. So if you have like the really bad Sony Walkman headset and it's like, it's like, it makes sense that like the West Coast music where people in cars had like all these really low bases and like all these like, because you were in a stereo cube, you know, you could make the music sound great. But this is at a time when like I remember those headphones. Like you were fancy if you could afford like the Iwa.
Starting point is 00:09:04 if you could afford that IWa tape deck. Like, you know, if you were walking with that one, but it made sense and it was more about like sort of a muffled drum sound with like a kick. Yeah, the production is part of it too. That is the boom-bap. Ironically, like, it was always kind of fun and easy to mix hip-hop for the most part in the 90s because most hip-hop was at the slowest 85
Starting point is 00:09:28 and at the fastest, like, around 99. There was not a lot of BPM range back then. Totally. I was just going to say I went through the low-end theory and midnight marauders and just kind of skipped really quickly to get BPMs. And it is like 85% 95BPM. If you ever take maybe one or two throughout both of these records. The average bounce meter point of your midnight area up meet. And I think that's a big part of it is to your point, the walking pace.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I think that's a part of it. After the success of the low-in theory, Quest is under the gun. They know that they have to come back with something that is just as good, if not better, because it's hard to follow up something as beloved as the low-end theory. But they've been digesting everything that's been going on in the culture too. And I think a prominent example of this
Starting point is 00:10:16 is the track on Midnight Marada is called, I'm just going to call it Sucker for now because I don't feel like using a whole bunch of N-words and talking about it. But it is Q-Tip rapping about his relationship with the N-word. And he does it like in a very nuanced, very mature way.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Right. As I try not to say it But my lips is like the co-op as I start to spray it My lips is like the o-op as I start to spray it My lips is like the o-wop I actually sympathize with Tip here I was raised in a household That was not an acceptable word
Starting point is 00:10:52 And yet in the early 90s A movie came out called Ministers Society It was extremely laden with the N-word And it was I think somebody counted It was used like something like 170 times Or something like that I think we all saw it there was all this talk about the NWACP.
Starting point is 00:11:08 We're going to bury that word forever. And Q-Tip, you know, I was kind of with them because I, to this day, I still don't really use it. But Q-Tip was saying, look, the youth are on a different page with this word than the old folks, and I'm going to write a song about it. Again, this is not the Q-Tip who is recording music at the footsteps of a public enemy or an ex-clan or all the, you know, very Afrocentric, you know, let's take this to the Motherland type singers. He's rapping now at a time when the West Coast has clearly no problem using that word. And he's almost trying to find his own lane, a unique to New York lane, on how to use that word.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Not being from New York at the time, I didn't realize. I thought he said, my lips is like a doo-op. Yeah, it's like I'm singing it. But it's actually he says, U-WOP, which was a street turn for an Uzi. That's why he says, like an U-WOP as I start to spray it. Oh, okay, like a machine gun. Also, I think someone online was like, Aruop, that's very true.
Starting point is 00:12:08 A Uop can also be when you roll two blunts together. Okay. But, yeah, it's like, it's complicated stuff, you guys. I appreciate now, even more than then, the amount of nuance, he says, I start to flinch as I tried not to sing. Yeah, that's really great. My lips is like a luop,
Starting point is 00:12:22 as I start to spray it. This is like unrelated to the lyrical content, but I'm so glad you played this because it's scratched, I was able to scratch a musical itch that have been bugging me, which is. Which is that that is a jazz,
Starting point is 00:12:34 it's a sample from a jazz standard. Yeah. Standard now, I suppose. When I was in high school, we played it. And it's been on my mind for years, and I couldn't think of it. Because when it's an instrumental, as we've talked about before,
Starting point is 00:12:45 harder to find instrumentals. When you don't have a lyric to search on. When you don't have a lyric, when you don't have the Shazam for the recording. We didn't have the internet like that, but it's had that damn baseline. Yeah. So the song is Red Clay by Jack Wilkins.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Let's hear a little snippet of it. Modal, much slower. Great track. And man, that's taking me back to high school days. I will say this. I'm so glad you bring that up. We didn't have the Internet so we couldn't immediately know what sample there was. That's going to come into play later because there are going to be a lot of debates at the lunch table
Starting point is 00:13:20 about what the chorus of electric relaxation says. There were a lot of really fun, intriguing theories. But we had no way to know back then. We had no way to contact the band back then. What a wonderful era we live in that on this show. Hasn't the Internet made the world better, everybody. It's clearly made the world a much better place. of you who don't know, we will be revealing later in the show exactly what the lining.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Absolutely. So on the song vibes and stuff, on the low-in theory Q-tip refers to himself as the Midnight Marauder, which is where they get the title of this album. Intertextuality. I love it. One thing referring to another thing. Absolutely. And then you come to this wonderful album where it's not just, you know, the painted figure
Starting point is 00:13:58 that's been sort of a staple of Tribe Call Quest albums, but it's also, you've got these pictures of all these great hip-hop friends, if you will. I love that, yeah. Of a tribe called. Like a Who's Who? You got the Beastie Boys. You got Busta, you got De LaSoul, you got Grandmaster Flash, Ice, T, Jazzy J. But I want to get into the musical direction of this album. What can you tell us? What can you translate for us from Bob Power? What's going on? There's kind of a mission statement coming out of the low-end theory in terms of the sonic direction for the new record that they went into. And it's interesting because Bob Power talks about how Like literally, Q-Tip and Ali came to him and they said they wanted to be more of a gritty street style.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Quote unquote, don't clean things up as much. Can I just say real quick, the first time I had ever heard the name Bob Power. And it really had it stuck. He gets mentioned on low-in theory, but it was really this line from a Midnight Marauder song. It's one of my favorite on the album. It's called The Chase Part 2. Yeah. That's a face of trouble.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Make my shit sound clear, clear. That's his real voice, too. Yeah. Yeah. answering. I like that you can actually hear Bob Powers say, yeah? Yeah. I like that he's part of the lore.
Starting point is 00:15:08 He's part of the canon. He's like, he's one of the tribe. That was how I knew Bob Power. As we discussed on the scenario episode, this is part two of a two-parter. Please go back and listen to Part One if you haven't already. What that actually means in terms of like the musical mix is Bob Power was doing a lot of really early, like innovative things to the samples to get them to all sit in the mix.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And that includes getting rid of some of the quote-unquote dirt and grime from the samples. Right. So I think what that means is that Q-Tip and Ali were like, don't do that this time. We wanted to be a little more gritty. We like some of the things that you've just been talking to us about Diallo. We like some of these sounds that are dirty and gritty in New York and Woot-A. I think Q-Tip had an interest in the streets of New York because it's not long after this, he produces a song for Mob Deep's second album, the infamous album.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So I always thought that he had a fascination with the streets. Coincidentally, also since Low-in Theory, US3 has come. out. Okay. We talked about it. We don't need to play it. But we talked about it. Also, one of our favorite groups, Stigable Planets has come out. And by the way, they were, I feel like they were not embraced by the native tongues and by the general New York community, even though they were from, you know, Brooklyn. And they should have. But hugely embraced by the two of us. But they were also embraced by the mainstream. And I think that just as Q-tip is listening to what Dre is putting out,
Starting point is 00:16:25 I think he's also rejecting some things. He's also rejecting some things that he had a clear influence on. Oh, that's interesting. You know, and I think that. that's something that I haven't ever read that anywhere. I don't know anybody. That's anybody's theory. But my theory is that it's not even just about Q-Tip embracing the streets. It's also about him saying, no, you know what? We just went off on Hammer.
Starting point is 00:16:45 It would be very easy for us to be the next US3 or to blow up like diggible planet's data after the rebirth of cool. No, we're going more street. We're going more in the underground direction. That is a really interesting theory that I think I'm subscribing to as you're saying it, especially with the US3 thing because that was very commercial. and to my ears even at the time, I was a fan of both
Starting point is 00:17:05 Google Planets and Tribal Quest, but also Acid Jazz, which is this sort of white, British, electronic side of the same thing. Musically, extremely related, but it's more of a London underground dance floor thing. They have a lot in common. We've talked about this on the Massive Attack episode, but it's a little
Starting point is 00:17:21 bit, maybe to his ears, because to my ears it was corny. Us three was corny at the time. And maybe Q-Tip was thinking, you know what have I begot? But I think also that that sithe could kill some good things to do because I think that I remember when I got to school and I was like, why did New Yorkers not mess with Diggable planets as much as we did down the south? And for whatever reason, some of the New Yorkers who embraced Nause and Mobb Deep and Tribe felt like Digible felt like some kind of like concoction, like some record label concoction. So they did.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I feel like over time they grew to embrace at least two-thirds of that group. But at the time, there was some tension there. know what that is. And I'd be curious to talk to Q-Tip or any of my friends in New York about what that is. But I digress. We're talking about electric relaxation in Mid-Ni Marauders. Much of the concept and planning of Mid-Ni Marauders was done in Fife's grandma's basement. So I want to say one of this episode's unsung heroes are hip-hop basements. Nana Fife. On our Outcast episode, you will know that the dungeon family and organized noise worked out of a basement. And that's where Alcalfiqa.
Starting point is 00:18:30 came to record and so many people come to record. There's something about basements. There's something about the non-rushed nature of a bunch of teenagers and people in their 20s just sitting around, you know, smoking, playing video games. That's the best. What a creative environment it is. How incredible is that. This album took some time to record.
Starting point is 00:18:48 You know, we always talk about those albums that just get pushed out like immediately and they're great. This is not one of those albums. So they're coming up with all these ideas in the basement. And yes, they recorded this album at Battery Studios per usual, but it's not. the basement. It's in the basement where the B for electric relaxation was made. You know, Five is quoted saying,
Starting point is 00:19:06 I didn't even say hello to my grandmother or whoever was in the house. I was just like, hold on. And I went downstairs, and that's a rude. And he was like, yo, what the hell is that? And Q-Tib was like, yo, that shit is crazy, right? And it just became what it is now. Five says is one of his absolute
Starting point is 00:19:22 favorite Tribe Call Quest songs. I will say it's a DJ, because this is the perfect place to say it. I love the song. Yeah. There's a little cue tip at the very beginning of the song that makes the song extremely hard to mix in. If you don't know what you're doing, it took me a while to realize that that was not the one because, you know, they usually try to help a DJ out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:52 They usually were like, hey, the first thing you hear is the one. But Q-Tiv is going to be cute and be like, and so a lot of DJs, we had a lot of trouble mixing that song at first. I know someone would go straight to the snare and just scratching the snare where they knew it came in. Yeah. But this was not always the easiest song to mix. We're going to get into this when we get into the stems.
Starting point is 00:20:11 There's something really unpredictable about this song. There's several things musically happening that make it unpredictable. And we're going to talk about what those specific things are. But keeping you kind of off-kilter like that is part of what makes this song so special. All right. When we come back, we'll dive into electric relaxation. And we're going to hear why one element of this song is one of the most mind-blowing samples that you've ever heard. And my man here is going to kind of recreate it live for us.
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Starting point is 00:24:56 Tribe Called Quest gets half of the publishing on this song. Yay! They're doing a little bit better than anybody who ever dealt with Steely Dan. So Q-Tip, Fife, and Alicia He-Jones are sharing 50%, interestingly, foreshadowing.
Starting point is 00:25:10 The other 50% goes to a gentleman called Ronnie Foster. Who does not? Oh. Who does not appear? on this song. Uh-huh. That's the shocking thing. But we will get into that shortly, and I will explain to you why. Oh, yeah, I'm dying to hear that because they did bring him into some sessions. Interesting how these things work out. And,
Starting point is 00:25:27 you know, it's just the nature of publishing and the nature of copyrights that these strange things take place. I will be introducing a new concept. I don't think it will take on in the same way that interpolation has taken on, but it is my hope that a handful of people will start using a new term that I will be using shortly. There's some foreshadowing. All right. Let's get into the music. What sample are we starting with? I'm imagining the drums. So the beat derives from a sample of a song called Outside Love by Brethren from 1970. So let's hear that. So there's our beat. Let's just hear where it goes from there. It's always fun to do in the original
Starting point is 00:26:02 song. It's very New Orleans fun. We're getting a lot of meters vibe out of that. I like that. That's great. That's breath right. Play just a tiny bit more. I just want to hear what he was singing about. You want to hear what he? He hooked you. That is the bluesiest blues. song that we're ever blown out of somebody's mouth. Now it's on blues notes going on right there. Sing out the blues. I'm singing out the blues.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Just hanging on this note. That was some bluesy stuff. That's a great breakbeat. But those are our drums. What's going on with the bass and the keys here? Listen, here's where things get interesting. Because just two years ago, we talked about on the last episode how sampling was still
Starting point is 00:26:58 an art form where in order to have longer samples, in order to have multiple samples, in order to have them all line up. There's a lot of work that Bob Power, the unsung hero of the last episode, and perhaps one of the unsung heroes of this one as well. The engineer who worked with a tribe called Quest to make this track happen.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Sampling times since then have gotten long. And Ali Shahid Muhammad and Q-Tip are both, I think, starting to use different tools that enable them to start bringing their sample visions to life ahead of time and start experimenting with what goes with what slightly differently. So what's cool about this, when I went through, and I told you, I recreated.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I tried to put my head space in what Q-Tip was doing to chop up these samples to make them work. It's really interesting. He was able to do new things that he couldn't do just two years earlier.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So one thing he did on the other major sample, which is a song by, I'll play it for you first and then we'll talk about it, break it down. The song is called Mystic Brew. It's by Ronnie Foster.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Oh, yeah, this is a good one. 1972. And I got to say the album title. It's from the album, two-headed Freep with a P. This is one of those songs because it's sampled a lot. Love that song.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Love that song. So he took that loop and he also took this loop from the intro. Yep. And then that same song and pretty much the same part of that song
Starting point is 00:28:22 gets reused in this J. Cole's song. You gotta expect to sip juice from the forbidden fruit and get loose. And by the way, Madlib has also used that sample so his childish Gambino.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Yeah. I think it's one of those things where it's so, personally, I think it's so iconic from the tribe. version, yes. That when other people use it in these other versions, it's meant to be a tip of the hat to try. I love that.
Starting point is 00:28:47 All right, so let's talk a little about the Ronnie Foster sample here. Ronnie Foster, by the way, fun fact, yet another musician who started working in clubs at age 15, playing in a strip club. Not unlike George Benson, who he worked with. Where are these clubs? I don't want to go. I want to shut them down. And interestingly enough, speaking of George Benson, he also worked with George Benson.
Starting point is 00:29:09 he was on the album, Breezen. Go back in the store George Benson episode. Huge it. So now let's get into a couple things. First of all, who we're hearing on the track. And then I'm going to play you how the track was chopped up very innovatively. So I mentioned there's two different loops, the bass only, which sounds like this. So Q-tip slowed that down a little bit, so it would match the breakbeat and pitched it down as well.
Starting point is 00:29:37 So I'll play those things against each other in the mix with the break beat. You know what's interesting about that? it actually sounds like it's a little bit quantized, like lined up, right? Like when you play it back to back like that, the Tribe Call Quest version does seem like it's hitting on the beat more than the sample. But I want to come back to something you said in the last episode that I think really applies here.
Starting point is 00:30:06 It's one of the reasons I love Midnight Marauders, I love electric relaxation, I love lyrics to go. It's this idea that there is a loop, but it's not quite lined up with, It doesn't restart on the one just like perfectly. Like there's just a little bit of a mental gymnastics. There's an off-kilter thing going on because it's not a two- or a four-bar loop.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's a three-bar loop. Yes. So interestingly throughout this song, that third bar, the fact of it being three bars, means that every now and then you'll have something because the vocals and the lyrics are in groups of eight and 16. Yes. So there are things where it's happening in an unexpected place. And that contributes to the off-kilter feeling you have.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Absolutely. And the other thing that's doing that is that those. six chords across the three bars. It feels, it's another kind of infinite loop situation like we were talking about because they never resolve. The chord changes, now, I'm not going to get too deep into music theory. No, go deep, bro. Go deep.
Starting point is 00:31:02 The technical chords you're hearing are, it's like a six and then a flat five, sus four, et cetera. I won't name all of them, but none of them are a one. And there are ways that non-tonic one chords can be other chords that feel like a one. But to my ear, we never quite go home. We're always kind of going in a circle. Right? So as we cycle through these six chords,
Starting point is 00:31:22 and I'll play them again and listen for this, it always feels like it's going to the next thing. And that next thing is never a stable home base. It's always coming back to the beginning again. You can never go home. You can never go home. And even if you did, it's not stable. In my mind, it's like the audio coming.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I keep thinking of like an Escher, you know, portrait where the stairs, the staircases that keep winding around forever. I think of like a circuit board where like the wires are all going to unexpected places. That's what my brain is doing when I hear it. Let's hear it again and listen for that. So here is the other loop that was sampled, the full loop from the Ronnie Foster song,
Starting point is 00:31:59 and just listen for the non-going homeness. The unresolvedness, I should say. It doesn't never gets to that one chord of the tonic. That first chord sort of becomes like a home chord in a way because you're expecting it, but it doesn't, it's still, I'm not, I'm moving around. That's not the natural place where it should end. It feels like an earthquake. I'm not really.
Starting point is 00:32:26 feeling safe and stable. I feel like, if I may, while we're in the midst of talking about electric relaxation, I want to play a little bit of lyrics to go because here's where you've got two or three samples sort of operating the same thing, and once again, you can never go home.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Let's check out. And by the way, listen out for the mini Ripperton note when she hits that whistle note. Oh, I can't wait. Q-Tip took that whistle note, and he extended it out so there's just like this through line through the whole song. You'll hear what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:32:56 This is off the same album, Midnight Marauders. This is lyrics to go. You hear that keyboard. That is, I'm feeling very unstable. But it's like, it intoxicatingly unstable. Like it intoxicates you. Like it intoxicates you, makes you feel warm at the same time. And if you're listening through your headphones, you do feel those low ends.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I think the individual things on their own may have different emotional qualities, but the genius of how they come together. How they all put together. That's what Bob always said about Q-Tip and Ali. He was like, they came in knowing they wanted this and that and this, but when you put them all on top of each other, you're going to accomplish something that doesn't exist in the universe. And we're about to hear something from electric relaxation
Starting point is 00:33:38 that does something similar, and that couldn't have been done in quite the same way just two years earlier. But before we get to that, I do want to point out that there are some quote, this is my new catchphrase that will not work. I'm sure as a catchphrase. Just try whispering. I'm going to try whispering. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Sample phantoms. Sample phantoms. What do we think of it? Sample Phantoms. I don't think it's a sophomore slump. I think this is going to take off. Sample Phantoms to me, because I mentioned before, that Ronnie Foster, it's his track,
Starting point is 00:34:06 and he's half of this song's publishing. But you're not actually hearing... He plays the organ on the song, but if you'll notice from what the sample was, there was no organ in it. What there is in the song is almost every other performer on the song. You're mainly hearing George Duvier on double bass mixed with Gordon Edwards on regular bass.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Gordo. Those are two bases combined together, doubling the line. line, which gives us an additional... A double bass and a bass, triple bass. So on bass, we have those two gentlemen, and on guitar, we have Gene Berticini, and on vibes, we have George Devins, and on harp, which we might hear in there, I'm not sure. Eugene Bianco.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I like to think Eugene Bianco is on harp on a lot of hip-hop song. He could be. Hip-hop harp is underrated. But because none of them are considered songwriters, those are all musicians who were on the day paid for session work, work for hire. They're not names you would necessarily know. So when I... I don't know any harpist, so I definitely wouldn't know those names.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So to me, this reminds me of a few episodes, not Lisa which is the Doja Cat episode, where Deon Warwick's voice is in the sample, but because she's not in the publishing, she's sort of a sample, like a musical, like a musical phantom is kind of the idea that I'm, like, thinking about here. There's these musicians who you hear in a sample,
Starting point is 00:35:16 but their name isn't credited, they aren't getting paid, but they are prominently used year and year out on multiple songs that sample them. So there's something just really to think about with this sort of disconnect between copyright and what actually happened musically. So the last sample, this one was so fun for me
Starting point is 00:35:32 to try and recreate. So there's one more sample. I'll play you the source and then I will show you how it got chopped up. It's pretty incredible. And again, this is a capability that just two years earlier would have been unheard of.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Almost impossible. It would have been witchcraft. It would have been witchcraft, I tell you. Witchcraft. This is Dreams from Ramsey Lewis call back to the Earthwind and Fire episode where Maurice White had formerly before Earth, When Fire formed,
Starting point is 00:35:57 was part of the Ramsey Lewis Trio. That's right. But he left before this song got recorded. This is Dreams, 1973. This is the middle of the song. I will say I'm legitimately stumped. Where is that in the song? Let me break it down for you.
Starting point is 00:36:20 So first of all, there's two different sounds that came from that, which get used to sort of punctuate the song in very different ways. And actually, the mini Riperton sample you played a second ago. He treats it a little bit similarly as a fraction of a sound that becomes something longer in its repetition,
Starting point is 00:36:36 but I'll just play it for you. So here's the original piece. So from that little fragment comes this smaller fragment. That's it. Oh. I'll play it again. So the first way he took that little tiny moment, barely a second. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:53 He pitches it up four. Okay. And then that becomes a repeated element that sounds like this when it gets looped together. Now I think I know what it is. That's fun. And when I put the beat next to it, it sounds like this. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And there's a second part of that same thing, which he also used. Here it is. Here's where it came from just to prepare your ears. That a little piece of what you're about to hear is what got used. Yeah. Here is that little WAP part isolated. Pitch that up plus four as well. And it sounded like this.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And then put that in every three bars with a little delay behind it. And it sounds like this. Let me give it to you with the beat. Yeah. Here it comes again. That is so fun because until you use the word pitch, I had no idea where we were going with that. But then when you did it with the little like weird chime thing or whatever that thing is.
Starting point is 00:38:13 The first element, yeah. That was when I immediately knew that the, I knew the way that. That's fantastic. And by the way, there's a part of me, and I've said this on another episode, it's like, why didn't Q, why didn't Q. Why didn't Q. Just bring somebody into the studio to actually play something that sounds like that?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Like, you don't have to worry about clearing the sample, possibly playing some belligerent boomer, 80% of your, 80% of the money. It is risky. Don't sample it. So a part of me loves that. Yeah. Because from an artistic point of view, it's like going to the ocean, grabbing a squid, killing the squid, taking the black ink in its body, and painting something?
Starting point is 00:38:52 First, just going down to the store and just buying some black paint. But it's like, no, man, we've freaking found this weird jazz album. We killed the squid, you know? Absolutely. And it's part of the artistic process, being on the art, like the making side of it, as you know, from experience. Sometimes what you put into something, there's something personal about it. It's a choice. It might be a record that has some significance to him.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I'm thinking back to our Lady Gaga episode. Which was not even that long ago. It wasn't that long ago, so it doesn't take me much to think. about it. That's how big this brain is. She does this verbally and vocally and melodically. She'll bring things in like, Mama, Mama. Or in her new song, which references the Susie and the Banshee song on Abra-Cadabra. For her, it's pleasurable to bring in references to things that have meaning to her outside of the song. It starts to build up with the music, with the lyrics. All of it is a statement about who you are as an artist. So I think making choices, finding something also the
Starting point is 00:39:43 buried treasure, like you're saying. Like there's something that is unexpected in this tiny piece of a song that you've brought out and made something completely transformative out of it. And made it this small little hidden treasure. It's so small. It's so small, but it does so much. Let me play it for you finally in the mix. These are all my recreated stems,
Starting point is 00:40:01 by the way. So they are close, but not quite the exact final thing. But when you add back that Mystic brew sample, it sounds like this. So that's a beat. That's awesome. Two bar loop, three bar loops, excuse me, of the Mystic brew. And then those two sort of
Starting point is 00:40:24 strange Ramsey Lewis fragments, like not even an entire, it's like less than half a second. It's great. It doesn't need to be brilliant, but it just did. And it sounds unique. Nothing else could sound like that. Nothing else could, yeah, you know, if they tried to create it with, you know, Eugene Bianco, the hip-hop harpist. By the way, his album should definitely be called hip harp, right? Hip-Harp, yes. I love that. You could try and recreate that with the hip-hop harpist, but it wouldn't sound the same. It was worth it. All right, it wouldn't be hip-hop unless we talked about some vocals. So it wouldn't be,
Starting point is 00:40:54 the same without so many classic lines. Like, you've got one of my favorite openings to a verse ever. I like a brown yellow border recitation. With the Zulu Nation, we can get down. Let's not the booths like the group H town. Put yourself
Starting point is 00:41:12 at a time machine. And imagine that you are in a hip-hop party or a college party or a bar like in 1993. Like, when he said that, like he said it so clearly that, like, within the week, the DJ was already taking out all the music and the whole crowd. It was like communal.
Starting point is 00:41:31 It was communal madness. The group H-Town does not give enough shoutouts in classic hip-hop tracks. You remember them? Tell me about the group H-Town. I know very little. H-Town was a great R&B group. And their number one hit was knocking the boots, which was 90 slang for, for bump and uglies. For making whoopee.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Oh, man. Let's play a little snippet of. Rockin' The Boots. There's so many lyrics in this song that we could do an entire podcast about. On the iconic nature and the cultural nature of. Yes. Or just breaking down like what they're referencing in verse 3, Q-Tips says, Stronger than Pride, stronger than Teflon.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I mean, stronger than Pride is Chate. Yeah. Also, he follows that up with, by the way, my name's Malik, the five-foot freak. It reminds me of his other line on this album where he says, when's the last time you heard a funky diabetic? Like, I feel like Fife is like a super underwereck. as an MC.
Starting point is 00:42:33 It's amazing that they didn't want him on the first album. But also be... The self-deprecating humor is insane. He's the self-deprecating king. He's the king. He calls himself a five-foot freak. He says that he's a funky diabetic.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Like he has no problem. And I feel like that's where the humor of Tribe really comes through on their records because Jerobe's not saying much. He's saying a lot in the studio. He's not saying much on the albums. I feel like Five is saying things to make his friends laugh. And that's part of what makes it fun and funny
Starting point is 00:42:59 and to keep things a little bit light, even as the world around them is going dark. Fife has another song, which is all him. It's only his song. Eight million stories. It has a very dark jazz sample. I don't have jack to wear. You know, I got to look dipped in the fresh to get.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I found something so I ain't. I think I caught up on the phone. And he's talking, you know, he's using sort of like the rapper's storytelling voice. You know, like there's all kinds of dark moments on this album. And yet there are these moments like, my name is Malik the Five Foot Freak. and we would be remiss if we didn't mention possibly the most you know historic humorous line on this album maybe but definitely on electric relaxation
Starting point is 00:43:40 I'm going to ask you to play it it comes in on the fifth verse that's right TikTok they used to do five verses on hip-hop songs on the fifth verse I think it starts with if your mom don't approve then I'll just elope That's such an iconic line. It's such an iconic line. It hits harder for us for like former New Yorkers. I was living in New York.
Starting point is 00:44:10 It means something to us slightly different. Siemens furniture was furniture you could afford. Okay. But it is obviously a double entendre play on the word Siemens furniture. Can you explain the double entendre to us? Not today. Okay. I also love this part of the line because he says,
Starting point is 00:44:24 Shahee, Fife, and the Extra P, Stacey, Stacey, Beatle, PJ, and my name. N-L-G. Extra P, I don't know that we'll ever really get to do an Extra P Large Professor episode of this show, but the main source as a group and Large Professor, aka Extra P, as a producer, he's in on these Midnight Marauders sessions, and he is one of my favorite hip-hop producers of all time.
Starting point is 00:44:49 If you want to go back and listen to Main Source, please feel free to do so. But just right now, please indulge me. I want to play because he's in on these Midnight Marauders sessions. I want to play my favorite remix of his of all time. It's actually his remix to Commons song Resurrection. This is the X-R-P remix. Enjoy this audible goodness. And now finally, let's talk about the chorus.
Starting point is 00:45:18 The chorus that has confounded people ever since the day electric relaxation came out. Relax yourself, girl. What? What did you hear at the time? I actually can't remember anymore what the wrong thing is. Well, you want to learn the correct thing. Yeah, that's actually probably what it was. That's probably right. Mommo, mum, mum, mom.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I'll tell you, I can remember exactly what I was when we got into the biggest debate because I thought he was saying, relax yourself, girl, please stop playing. That's plausible. Yeah, relax yourself, girl, please stop playing. My friend Qualey, shout out to Qualey. I know he listens to the show. He was like, no, he says, relax yourself on a preset plan. What?
Starting point is 00:45:55 That's what he heard of here. He's so confident with that. pre-step. Oh, he said it so confidently. He said it so confidently that like literally, I thought he had written somebody at Jive or wherever and like had gotten the definitive answer. What even is that? Is that like a like a burner phone, like a preset, what is a preset plan? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it was like, hey, it's like when you're like rolling, when you're sailing down the river and letting the river take your way of you? The preset plan is what God has set out for us. Yeah. That makes sense. But here's your definitive answer, everybody. The chorus of the song forever forward
Starting point is 00:46:27 and this has been verified, is relax yourself, girl, please settle down. Relax yourself, girl, please settle down. We're going to play the chorus for you right now. Train your ears to hear what he's actually saying. All right, Jal. So what do you think the legacy of electric relaxation is? Man, I don't know. I think the legacy of electric relaxation is twofold.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I think, one, it permanently cemented this idea that a tribe called, quests were artists working in the field of hip hop, if that makes sense. Yeah. Like, they're just artists. And think about it. Like, not only did they avoid the sophomore slump with the low-in theory, you know, which I think most people would agree was a step up from people's instinctive travels, somehow they were able to follow up an album as beloved as the low-in theory with an album
Starting point is 00:47:28 pretty much almost equally loved, maybe loved more by others. Right. Midnight Marauders, that is an incredibly hard thing to do. Like the fact that they were so locked in that they were able to come back two years later to a different world and release an album that didn't flop is insane. No, seriously, it's insane. And so many of their compatriots and colleagues from the class of 91, if you want to call it that, weren't around as early as 94.
Starting point is 00:47:57 They were just off the scene. They were irrelevant. They were off the grid. Midnight Marauders, to me, its legacy is that it's, cemented the legacy of a tribe called quest. I think that's perfectly put it. And I said it was twofold because I also think it has the effect of because it submitted their legacy and because it showed, hey, these are artists working in the field of hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:48:15 It made it okay for other artists to come along and to take some of what they had done sonically and run with it or take the mantle of we are artists first and run with it. It's not by accident that someone like Skeff, who we talked about a lot in the first episode because he's there at the beginning of their journey. By the end of the 90s, he's working with artists like The Roots. He's working with artists like Mo Steff. Bob Power is working with The Roots and Erica Badu and all these artists. So like not just a tribe called Quest.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And sadly, Fyves' health started to affect their ability to stay relevant into the 2000s, obviously. But from Q-Tip to Alicia Heim Muhammad, Bob Power, Skeff Ansel, all the periphery of the Native Tongues crew and all those people, they were all able to leave a legacy that made it okay. for the next generation of artists, Mostef, outcast, Talib Kuali, they were able to carry that mantle all the way into the 2000s of Mion.
Starting point is 00:49:10 So kudos to them. Their legacy is safe. There would be no J. Cole. There would be no Kendrick Lamar in the same way as we think of them now without the Tribe Call Quest. I think that was perfectly said. And I think just kind of
Starting point is 00:49:22 encapsulating both of these episodes that we spent two episodes talking about Tribe Called Quest scenario was this last episode and then this one being electric relaxation across these two songs and across these two records. For me, just like looking musicologically into the stems and thinking about what happened, how they were able to make it,
Starting point is 00:49:39 and what did they do that was innovative and interesting. I'm really struck by how sampling comes such a long way in just these two to three years between these records. And in these two songs, you can actually see it happening. There are capabilities in the second song in Electrical relaxation that they simply couldn't do two years earlier. It blows my mind that you're able to get these little micro fragments and line them up and have these interesting adjustments made to where they sit in time.
Starting point is 00:50:05 And add to that, the whole jazz thing we've been talking about for both episodes, where they're making choices about what to use sampling-wise that are really unusual and unorthodox in the chord changes and even the instrumentation. They're really making unusual choices, but somehow at all, you don't really hear that until you start investigating at a micro-level. It just sounds like great hip-hop. I think you've nailed it.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I think it's all about change. Yeah. The technology changes, what they're rapping about changes, and the world that they're rapping, too, has changed. I think that there's so much change between these two wonderful classic albums, the low-in theory and Midnight Marauders, that how could we not take two episodes to dissect all the change that happens between them. So I tried was a double on one song.
Starting point is 00:50:48 We had to do it. Had to do it. We had to do it. Okay, luxury, it's time for one more song. This is the segment where we share a deep cut or a hidden jam with you, The One Song Nation. And with each other, you go first. All right, well, as I've talked about many times on this show, I'm a big fan of dub reggae,
Starting point is 00:51:03 and every now and then something comes across my path where I'm like, this is why I love this type of music. This is Dreadlock's Dub by Bullwacky's All-Stars. It is a rather mysterious 45 that I know nothing about, but I love how it sounds. And that's all that matters. This is everything to me. Really sparse, minimal. It's got some weird, cheap sounding synth at the top that I love.
Starting point is 00:51:33 The fact that it's recorded on what sounds like my shoe, You know, like, I, Bullwackys. Pretty musical. So what's interesting about this song is it's actually Jamaican dub that comes out in New York. This is, Bullwackies was a guy called Lloyd Barnes, who moved from Jamaica to the New York area in the late 70s and made reggae that sounds like Jamaican reggae out of Jamaica, but right there on Long Island. Probably not that far away from where Q-Tip and everybody else was growing up and living. Oh, that's really cool. Interesting, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And what year is that? I don't know much about it. My guess would be that this is a mid-70s track. It might be late 70s. But yeah, it's called Dreadlock song by Jaj-Joe. And can't find a lot of information about it, but I don't want to. I like how mysterious it sounds. I like that too.
Starting point is 00:52:20 What about you, D'allel? What's your one more song this week? My one more song this week is out of bounds by Coastal Conrad and DLG. This is one that grew on me over the course of listening to it. And by the time I reached the end, I was like, wow, that's really cool. So I'm going to play a snippet, but really check out the whole song. This is out of bounds. I'm looking for the one.
Starting point is 00:52:44 That's the one. One, two, two. I mean, it's a pretty epic song, and it's nice and chopped up. I feel like someone's squeezing, like, the entire band, the entire production. I love it. You know, admittedly, I was driving down the coast, and the song came on. I was like, oh, yeah, this is a banger. As always, if you have an idea for one more song,
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