Open Book with Anthony Scaramucci - October 2025 Q&A: Post-Trump America, Zohran Mamdani as Mayor, and more

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

Your support for Open Book has been overwhelming. As an expression of my gratitude, I am committed to recording monthly Q&A sessions where I answer all your questions. If your question hasn't been ans...wered yet, please keep submitting it, and I promise that I will get to it. This Q&A covers a wide range of topics, including politics, economics, crypto, reading, and more. So keep watching and keep the questions coming. Mentioned in this episode: The Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe https://amzn.to/4mPO80Z The Secret of Secrets by Dan Brown https://amzn.to/4npPKj7 Apple in China by Patrick McGee https://amzn.to/48HOiUA 1942: When World War II Engulfed the Globe by Peter Firtzsche https://amzn.to/4pQvrNi Guns of August by Barbara Tuchman https://amzn.to/46LW8Kf Anthony Scaramucci is the founder and managing partner of SkyBridge, a global alternative investment firm, and founder and chairman of SALT, a global thought leadership forum and venture studio. He is the host of the podcast Open Book with Anthony Scaramucci. A graduate of Tufts University and Harvard Law School, he lives in Manhasset, Long Island. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Now, I'm seeing all the comments on YouTube X, LinkedIn, and Instagram, and I'm loving the feedback and questions, even the criticism. So you can send the criticisms because I like reading those as well. There are questions that we answered in August. I thought we were super impressed, actually, with those questions, and I thought we did a great job getting those out there. And the response back from you guys has been tremendous as well. So keep an eye out of my posts in the future.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Feel free to comment on anything you'd like to discuss, whether it's business, politics, or personal stories. and oh, by the way, thank you for tuning in and thank you for the great engagement in the show. You know what to do. If you're not following us, you've got to press the follow button, subscribe button on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:02:18 But anyway, it would mean a lot to me if you did that. So let's look at some of these. The first one is from YouTube at HKW 1997. So something tells me you're 48 years old. I'm just taking a wild guess at that. Hello, Mr. Scarabucci, from New Zealand. What does America look like? post-Trump. Now, you could be thinking like Will Smith's shit where like everything,
Starting point is 00:02:41 but he's dead and it's like a dangerous, brutish world. But I'm not thinking that. I think America's going to survive Trump. And I think that there's winds of change happening right now. Just look at the Jimmy Kimmel situation where corporations are finally pushing back on the bullying and the intimidation. Moreover, I'm hearing, at least on Capitol Hill, from lots of Republican senators that they're sort of fed up. And I give Ted Cruz, Well, I think generally has been a jellyfish to Donald Trump's antics. I give Ted Cruz credit for sticking up for free speech last week. So I'm optimistic.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Won't be as much fun as your beautiful country, New Zealand. I've been there. Absolutely gorgeous place. But America's going to repair itself. You know why? Because America always repairs itself. And I'm a big believer in America. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:31 LinkedIn. This is from Tom Mumford. What advice would you give to a young person? person who's trying to become more articulate. I've always admired how coherently you present your thoughts on your podcast. Well, that's very complimentary and thank you. Is it simply reading widely or is there more to it? So there is a little more to it. So you got to read. You want to be a better writer, you got to read. You want to be a better public speaker. You got to read. But the thing that you need to do the most when you are talking is slow down. One of the best pieces of media is
Starting point is 00:04:06 advice I got when I was a younger man was actually from Bill Clinton's media coach. And he said, Anthony, if you want to be a compelling speaker, slow down. You see that pregnant pause that I just gave you guys? It forces people into the conversation. They will drop their phone and they'll look up. They're probably thinking I'm having a stroke or something like that. See that? But if you do that, what ends up happening is it pulls the people in. So read, read, read, practice your public speaking. It's okay to get out of microphone. It's okay to FaceTime yourself and do cameos to yourself. To test your timing and your allocution. But those are some of the tips that I have for your top. Okay, number three, Instagram, Stooker, at Stucer. Do you consider
Starting point is 00:04:56 yourself independent now? I don't, actually. So you probably mad at me for saying that I consider myself a lifelong Republican and a traditional Republican. Now, I also happen to be a Met fan and the Mets suck right now. And I'm a jet fan, and the Jets actually suck way worse than the Mets. But you know what I am is I'm an old school loyalist. So I'm an old school traditional Republican hoping and praying that after this Trump nightmare is over, we can win back that party. So not necessarily an independent. I do have independent views, but I'm not an independent in my mind.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Okay. This is from X at 10 investing. Does New York survive Mondami? or does the finance industry abandon New York? So a little bit of both. I think a lot of people are going to move out of the city as a result of Mondami coming into power. Mondami does not understand the harmony
Starting point is 00:05:51 between the private sector doing well and his social programs. He wants to punish the rich and figure out a way to benefit the poor, but I'm going to tell you something right now that never works. Can't punish the rich to benefit the poor. You've got to find the rich, you've got to find good policies to help the rich and poor work together to lift the poor up.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Mondami doesn't understand that. So finance people will leave, unfortunately. The city will survive. Again, just like the country, we've been through very bad periods of time in this city. There's a tremendous amount of energy here and a tremendous amount of dynamism. And it'll be here long after Mondami's off the stage. The only good news about Mondami, he sucks so badly. that if he does get into office, it looks likely that he might get into office.
Starting point is 00:06:41 If he does, that type of experimentation will lead to a pendulum swing back to something way more normal like what's happening in San Francisco. Okay, let's keep going here. LinkedIn at Orch Lamrow. Skybridge interim of the summer. I actually remember you. Okay, thanks, Mr. Lamro. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Mr. Scaramucci, it seems like we're entering a world so different from the one people like your grand father helped to create 80 years ago. So why do you, where do you look to make sense of where we're headed in the next 80 years without being disoriented? So listen, first of all, thank you for being here for the summer. I would recommend a book to you by Neil Howell called The Fourth Turning. There's also his second book was called The Fourth Turning is here. And so you're bringing up 80 years. And that's what Neil says in the book.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Every 80 or so years, we have an epic change in a society. And basically what happens if you think about 80 years since, the Second World War. It ended in 1945. We've now had four generations. And there are people in the country 40 or 50 years old that don't remember why we set up certain institutions like the IMF, the World Bank, the UN, these institutions, which were part of the post-World War II order, the history of that, the actual physical memory of that is no longer with us. And so what ends up happening is after four generations or 80 years, you get it turning. And so it'll be tumultuous in the beginning, but I do predict it will settle out and settle out for the better because a lot
Starting point is 00:08:15 of great things are happening in this country in our society from a technological perspective that are going to make us more abundant and are going to make people at the lower income scales more prosperous. So I am optimistic. This is from Gina then Cardi from LinkedIn. Are you first or second generation Italian and how has your heritage influenced you? What does being Italian mean to you today? And do you stay connected to your culture? Do you encourage your children to embrace their Italian background? If so, how? I'm assuming you're a pizadean like me, Gina. So let me say a couple of things. I was born 19 years after the end of the Second World War and my grandparents who emigrated here in the 1920s were very Italian. So if you're first or second generation, I might
Starting point is 00:09:02 actually be third generation. Let me explain why, because my grandparents got here, my parents were born here in the United States, and then, of course, I was born here in the United States. I think that may be third generation, depending on how you calculate. But I will say this. I grew up with cigarillos. I grew up with steaming espresso coming from cast iron pots. It came out of that cast iron pot like motor oil. I don't even know how these people were drinking it. They were smoking cigarillos and drinking motor oil-like espresso to midnight and then getting up and going to work, eating canollies and Zeppoli and all kinds of stuff. It was unbelievable how old school the whole thing was.
Starting point is 00:09:43 My uncle had an accordion. My grandparents read El Progresso. So, yes, I am very Italian. My kids are less so. But my daughter, who's an opera singer, has learned Italian and speaks it fluently. She's frankly the only one in the second and third generation that knows how to do that. But I am very committed to my culture, travel back and forth to Italy, have relatives still in Italy. And I would just say, if you want your kids to be steeped in your culture, go back to the old country,
Starting point is 00:10:12 spend a few weeks there every summer or at least once or twice a year on vacation. I hope that's helpful. Anyway, Instagram at Junior Linden. What are your main disagreements with catty cat? Well, the number one disagreement, she's going to be pissed at me if you ever watch as this. But the number one disagreement is the whole fascist thing. Because Erdogan, Orban, Trump, guys like that, they act like fascist. So you should drop the penalty flag and call them that.
Starting point is 00:10:42 You know, when someone's saying that they should use the federal government to persecute their enemies, that's fascist. Someone's saying they're going to pull FCC license. If someone's saying something they don't like about them, that's thin-skinned, but also fascist. when you're having an us versus them story or you're picking winners, also fascist. But Caddy Kay says, no, can't call that fascist. So that's our big disagreement on the podcast. I generally don't disagree with her, though.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I think she's got very important, very relevant views, and she's very well prepared for that podcast. And let me tell you something. With that British accent, she's like, sounds like she's got 150 IQ points higher than me. Could you imagine if I could talk with a British accent how fucking great that would be? But anyway, that's a side topic.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I don't really disagree with her that much. Let's go to number 8x. Rogers Razorback. What is the number one piece of free advice you would give to any entrepreneur trying to start a business in the current chaotic and uncertain environment? So, Raj, the number one piece of advice, start. So many people are waiting for the perfect opportunity. Waiting for the perfect website.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Reid Hoffman, the founder of LinkedIn, said, If you're waiting to perfect your website, you're waiting too long. Just put the stuff out there, get the business started, and adapt yourself on the way. One of the best lines I heard about entrepreneurship, you're jumping off a cliff and you're trying to build a plane as you're descending down the cliff. And that's entrepreneurship. And so you're either built for that and the excitement of that and the trepidations of that where you're not. But I know you are. So just get the business started.
Starting point is 00:12:24 good things will happen. Take the risks. Live your dream. Number nine, this is Shannas Batman. This is from YouTube. Given the Trump's family's shameless griff with regard to their crypto schemes, do you think that the support Trump has shown with crypto has been overall positive or negative for the industry? This is a great question. And so I'm not trying to split the baby here. So I'm going to answer it directly. overall positive because we were in the doldrum of Joe Biden, man, Gary Gensler, I mean, literally the worst SEC chairman probably in the history of the SEC, humiliated himself by being so nonsensically anti-gripto. So that yoke off the industry makes the Trump administration net positive. Are there some things I wish Trump didn't do, like start a meme coin, start a Melania meme coin,
Starting point is 00:13:21 invest alongside of his family members and benefit and earn salary from these crypto companies while he's the president. I certainly don't think that's the right thing to do. Moreover, he shouldn't be selling sneakers and watches and I don't know, whatever the hell he's selling as president. But again, that's me. There's certain rules and there's certain spirit of the law and there's certain letter of the law. And he may not be, in some cases, breaking the letter of the law. but it does feel like the spirit is being broken. I wish the president would just stick to being president.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Well, if you don't like the president, maybe you'd want them to sell more stuff and be less president. But anyway, those are my thoughts there. Okay, this is Darrell T. This is from LinkedIn. Anthony, I've been an admirer from a distance. Thank you. Please share some book recommendations.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Okay, so for fiction, I would read The Secret of Secrets by Dan Brown. I found that it would be a fascinating book. I finished it this weekend. Truly loved it. I would read Apple and China, if you really want to understand American business and the dynamic that we have going, some of our largest, most successful corporations have going with China.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I would certainly read that. There's a great book out on 1942, which is the height, in my opinion, of the Second World War, because we're fighting in North Africa and we're fighting all over the Pacific. And it's just a great story about how the Western allies had to come together after the attack on Pearl Harbor. But there's so many great books, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:57 A Brad Meltzer book, a Ken Follett book. Ken has a new book out. You pick up a Ken Follett, a Brad Meltzer, or a Daniel Silva book. And I guarantee you it won't be the last one of those authors' books that you read. So those are some recommendations there. But start reading, even 10 pages a day. Believe it or not, 10 pages a day, just think about that is 12 books a year.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Think about how that enriches you intellectually. So start reading. Great question. Instagram. John Debbie 77, what's the one thing that is misunderstood about how power actually works? I think the number one thing is the more powerful you are and the more powerful you are, and the more powerful you can become is by giving the power away. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Because if you can give the power away, you can delegate. And the more you delegate, the more things you can get done if you provide the right direction and the right vision. Ronald Reagan once had a great line. I have it here in my office. There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go or she can go if he or she doesn't care who gets the credit. Okay, that was on the desk in the Oval Office, and so the irony of power, share the power, give the power away, it makes you more powerful. Okay, number 12. Roscoe 45, this is from X.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Why has the assassination of Charlie Kirk affected Americans as deeply as it has? And what do you think are the long-term consequences of his death for American society? So another great question. I knew Charlie personally, campaigned with Charlie. Charlie was on my podcast. I knew with lots of Charlie's donors and friends. And he even got Charlie into my wine party in Davvo, Switzerland a few years back. And I like Charles.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And I may have disagreed with Charlie, but you know what I didn't disagree with? I didn't disagree with his civility. I didn't disagree with his openness to the debate. And he may have said some hurtful things over the years to certain ethnic groups or something like that. I'm sure he did. And so I'm not here to parse words. I'm just saying he. He had a point of view, and I think what affected people so deeply is the cynicism of killing
Starting point is 00:17:18 somebody that's not even in political power, but it's just sharing or expressing a political view the notion that someone like that could get killed in the country. I think it was met by deep sadness on both sides of the aisle. So that's my opinion. And will we get over it or what will the long-term consequences be? I'm hoping they'll be what Erica, his wife Erica Kirk said. And that is there'll be some level of healing and some level of unity. That's my hope.
Starting point is 00:17:48 All right, guys, this is from YouTube Cody C-8952. I contend the impact of AI on the U.S. workforce is the squatting elephant that no politician wants to address coherently. What are your thoughts on this from the different perspectives of the labor force? enterprise and markets and public policy. So listen, this is a great question, a very complicated question. So the negative scenario is that the proliferation and the exponential growth of AI weakens the labor force and displaces lots of people and takes jobs. I think some of that will be true. But I always believe in America and I always believe that we go through technological transitions, the jobs show up in under industries. You know, there's no more horse and buggy riders,
Starting point is 00:18:41 but there are chauffeurs. You know, I can give hundreds of different examples of how this works. So I'm less concerned about this. I think on a positive side, three, five, ten years from now, you may be at a four-day work week where most people are working a little less, enjoying a little bit more leisure and potentially having more abundant lifestyle. So let's look at this thing from a positive perspective. I just think from a public policy, we have to protect ourselves from AI. There has to be checks and balances in the system so that we don't run amok in AI. That's the Elon Musk sort of negative view of it. I think we can do that through good policy and good legislation. So I hope that certainly happens. Okay, this is from Brew 1701. What did you think about James Gunn's Superman?
Starting point is 00:19:29 And what is it about that hero? What is it about the hero that makes you love him so much? I've got a lot of Superman adornments in my office. I love the movie this past summer. I saw it twice. To me, it's a battle of good and evil. Remember, if you really understand the lore, the history of Superman, it's a mythological character. It was written during the rise of Nazism. And it was actually created by two Jewish young men, Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster.
Starting point is 00:19:59 They were living in suburban Cleveland. Hitler was talking about the Obermensch or the Superman, and these boys decided they were going to write their own version of Superman, and they made him quintessentially American. How did they do that? They created a immigrant story. Most of us are immigrants. They created a story of mobility and aspiration.
Starting point is 00:20:22 He sort of lands from this alien world, and he's raised in Kansas in the Midwest. So he's raised in the Midwest, steeped in these Midwestern values, and then he moves to the big city. He's such a great American story, but the keen thing to pay attention to is Superman is he's lonely, because sometimes leadership and sometimes doing the right thing is loneliness,
Starting point is 00:20:43 and he certainly has those attributes to him. But he stands for truth, justice, and the American way, at least the American old way. I'll tell you something, Superman is who we all want to be. Batman, with all of his darkness and all of his warped behavior, Batman is who we are, but Superman is who we want to be. So it's sort of that aspiration that I really love about. What a great question.
Starting point is 00:21:04 All right, let's keep moving. YouTube, White Chocolate 777. What's my favorite James Bond film? Dr. No. Absolutely the best film. Number one film, first film. Ursula Andres in that film is stunning. Bond played by the Uber masculine Sean Connery.
Starting point is 00:21:27 All of the motif of that, the 60s motif of that. His, I don't know, bravado, the swag, the gadgetry. This coincided with a big movement of Esquire magazine, Playboy magazine, and others in the 1960s. And it's part of a cultural time capsule that I adore. And it happened a few years before I was born. So I do love that movie the most of all the movies. And I've seen all the movies many times. Linked in Ryan Bullock, M.S.
Starting point is 00:21:59 could you please discuss the institutional memory or the lack thereof in our culture and society? Very simple. So if I'm coming out of the Second World War and I'm a soldier and I saw death and pestilence and help to liberate concentration camps, it's influencing my behavior in terms of how we're going to set up a peaceful society in the post-World War II era. Moreover, if I'm a Democrat like George McGovern arm or Republican like Bob Dole, if we both fought in the army together, it's going to be some level of respect. for the Constitution and some civil discourse. But I'm born in 1985, as opposed to 1925, guess what?
Starting point is 00:22:37 I have no memory of that. And I sort of think that these older things, that's what happens with the young people, they think these older things should be swept away and new organizations or new policies or new ideas could be formed. We also find, you can read the Guns of August or other historical books about war and the beginning of war, what we find is that when the institutional memory is at a low, you get a systemic rise of nationalism and the bellicosity of rhetoric. And so these are the things that I super worry about right now, and I appreciate you bringing it up. It means that some of the things that I'm saying on this program are resonating. But those are some of my thoughts there. This is from X, and it's Gorma 5592. Okay, this is from James. 5.5.5.
Starting point is 00:23:25 What are your opinions on traditional index ETS as a method of building wealth for middle income Americans? And are you worried at all that passive investment in equities has oversaturated the market? What is your advice for diversifying if so? Well, I'm a big index investor. So I hear the thing that this has been overexposed to, overweighted by most people. But I'm an index investor. I typically own the S&P 500.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Of course, you could branch out and own the Russell 5,000, or you could own the Dow 100. You could mix and match them. But ultimately, I think if you own the index, we've learned long ago that the index beats about 85 to 90 percent of the money managers, and you can get access to the stock market at a very low cost. So I'm going to stick with that despite the concerns. Number 19. YouTube, at Arbiter 310, please suggest American news sites that aren't two. bias. It's exhausting, attempting to weed out sites to find balanced ones. So I don't know any balanced American news sites. So I'm going to recommend something to you. Go to your iPad,
Starting point is 00:24:36 download the English version of the Lamont. It's the French newspaper. A lot of my friends in the CIA do that. The French really don't care about American politics. So they report it fairly accurately and fairly objectively. But you probably can't read French. I can't. So download the English version and you can get your news there, well-sourced and very independent. Not American, though, however. Okay. Last one. Instagram, feelings overrated.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Can you give us some hope? I love your upbeat attitude. Well, it's not just an upbeat attitude. First of all, thank you. But I think it's really grounded in history. America is a risk-taking country. It's neurily plastic. It's an adaptive country.
Starting point is 00:25:19 We made some mistakes. We let three generations of American feel left out. And over the last 30 years, middle and lower income people felt like they got the shab, particularly during the global financial crisis where the banks got the trillion dollars and the rest of us got no trillion dollars. And it caused the Tea Party movement and Occupy Wall Street and systemic rise in populism that was captured by politicians like Donald Trump and politicians like Bernie Sanders. And so we could do better as a group of establishment politicians to get the right policies in place. That didn't happen. Okay, but that era is now also passing. You know,
Starting point is 00:25:59 the good news is when things get bad, America wakes up and says, hey, we got to make this better. That happened during the Dave Dickens era here in New York, where he was ousted for Mayor Giuliani. It's happening in San Francisco, where we have a new mayor there that's on cleanup after years of decadence and years of bad policy, but bad policies leading to crime in San Francisco. And so don't lose hope. Unbelievably innovative, unbelievably dynamic country. It's been generally stable for the last 250 years. And even though we have some weirdos running it right now,
Starting point is 00:26:35 I think it's going to get better pretty quickly. All right, that's a wrap on today's questions. Okay, this Q&A episode of Open Book, I hope you enjoyed as much as I did. Remember, I'm reading all your comments, and I love hearing what's on your mind. So keep sending those questions in. And if I missed any of your questions, we'll be back next month with another round of answers.
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