OpTic Podcast - ACTIVISION LETS TALK | The OpTic Podcast Ep 16

Episode Date: March 18, 2021

This week on the OpTic Podcast we have Hecz, Scump, FormaL, and Hitch discuss the video that Activision put up exposing the player comms, who the dynasty team would have picked up for their 5th, and what YouTube rabbit holes the guys have been going down recently. Go to http://betterhelp.com/optic to get 10% off your first month! Go to http://gabi.com/OPTIC to see how much Gabi can save you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What do you mean? You're a zombie in the first 10 minutes. 100% of it. 100%. I would make sure that my mind is. If I'm a zombie, then you're a zombie. Oh, I'd be the one giving it to you. I'd be a zombie five minute wait, pause.

Welcome, welcome to the Submobile of the Optic podcast. Today's sponsors are Gabby and Better Help. And I'll tell you a little bit more about them later in the show. Do you see where I got my shots? For today, we're going to talk about Skumpy's. Yo, you got, yo, it would take you two weeks to get super swole. I just saw that. I know you haven't been working out.

and you still swole my dude. Okay, so you got your shot. Was this a first set of shots that you've ever got? Yeah, they suck. What were they exactly? You just get shots in your arms. What is this for? Allergies.

Oh, I think you're sorry. Okay. For his arrethias. And you just sit there and wait 30 minutes, and then if you fucking start having an allergic reaction, they come in and stick you with an epipen. They put them in your arm? Yeah.

How do they put them in your back? Is this so? It'll put them in his back? Yeah. Like 40 of them. I don't think I've ever got a shot in my back, but I feel like that would suck. I feel like it wouldn't hurt that probably. I would.

Like a little pinch? Yeah. I've gotten shots all over. You know what was weird? This arm, it didn't hurt as bad to get shots. You haven't gotten any back shots? No. You never got any.

Come on. I'm still waking out. I've been up since 8.30. Okay, so did they tell you exactly what you have, like what you're allergic to, like specifically? Dust mites, every northern grasses in Texas. my dogs and cats pretty much everything bubble boy

he's also allergic to the hill he's also allergic to the god show ass we never stack we never stack we never stack we never stack I am I'm so sick of seeing that why don't you guys just force stack B when you get kills on checkmate

let's see maybe there's six angles that we can die from alright so there's a lot of things to discuss but I wanted to lead off. Wait, what was that? I was just yawning. Why?

Yeah, what was that? Was he yawn? That was strange. I don't want to see that ever again. What do you do? I can't wait to watch this back. He just stuck his tongue out. He started doing that.

He said, I was yawning. He did the Will Johnson. No. Every time he's about to do something, he's like, I don't ever talk about. because that's fuck boy look wait are we talking about he is perfected it I don't want to see that because of how good it's so it's so good and you can use it for any fucking situation literally anything you're talking to the camera

talking to the camera I'll do it randomly it'll make it way better yeah the TikTok the tic-tok lip bite thing yeah yeah no he did it to me yesterday I was like whoa do the other night me and Nick were like in the car and we were just like just fucking bullshitting and we were making that face probably like 80 times and just laughing so We were at IHOP and everything the waitress was saying we were just we were just extra bacon. I'm just I'm just Dude that shit was so fucking funny that is good. I have a sense that have you taking your food sensitivity test No, you should. Yeah, I bought about yeah, I bought that room. Oh no

The chain. Yeah, what's with the bracelets dude? I get their lexas. Yeah, I could tell. Yeah, I can tell too It's her line. I think they're cool. She sells them. I think they're cool. Oh, she sells them? On what? Made you look.com? Something like that. Yeah, we'll put it in the link in the description. Go buy some fucking bracelets. I think they're really, really fashionable.

Thank you, bud. Yes. I would put them on my ankle. Would you? I would, but not on my wrist. You don't have wrist game like I do. No, I don't. My wrist game.

I think I'd be able to fit those on my member. Yeah. Huh? No, no. No. What? Definitely couldn't. Let's just move on.

on to the first topic. There are no notes from the fans this week apparently. Are there notes from the phase shit talk video that just came out? Well, this is what, look, I want to talk We're going to lead in with this. Let's talk about that. We are pissed off at the league

production. Yes. Not necessarily the league. I'm sure that everybody in the, that makes that thing go round. What players say to hype their teams up behind closed doors should never be released to the public. No. Because now they just forced a rivalry.

Yeah. For no, like, that's how every team talks before every match. They just, he's ass, he's ass,

he sucks. Unless they're horrible. I mean, they still try. They're just like, yeah. They still try to get. You think,

you think the, like, London owns six? Yeah, they're not going in. Just like. Oh, okay. Well,

I didn't want to say, but do you think fucking shit? You have fucking shit. We are going to lose. Just try your best, man. They just talk shit to themselves.

Just try your fucking. No, on some real shit. There. The way that it's set up right now is that we have to, because of competitive integrity and because of, you know, the production, we have to have cameras on. We don't know when they are recording, but now we know that they're always recording. So now we have to be uncomfortable in our own comfort to make sure that we're not saying. Like, all of the stuff that we're saying now has always been said by every single member of the pro scene period and story from the beginning and at end of time, right?

In any competition ever. In any competition ever. Chess people are like, this dude, it's like fucking G4-2. Can't wait. J-K-H. And now people are going to read into that. And now it's a whole crock of shit.

I think it sounds desperate. I think it sounds thirsty for views. Look, if you guys want the main channel to be popping off, holler at me. Okay, I'll fix it for you. We don't need to do all these underhanded bullshit titles to do that. It's crazy they just did it with optic and face. They didn't do it with anybody else.

apparently they did do it with New York and Dallas but it wasn't it wasn't like that I don't think they've done it before it wasn't nine minutes of it wasn't nine minutes of it wasn't yeah yeah I've seen them do like funny stuff which I always thought was pretty funny like little things

were like Clay's like doing something and then you drop something yeah that's fine yeah that stuff who cares but like shit talking us just shit talking like yeah we're about to fuck these kids up they suck yeah yeah that's like I'm actually so I reached out to the league obviously immediately it's at four minutes yeah I didn't I watch four

minutes of it I was like this is on call for this is out of line at this point you guys should be able to leave the call and then join right before the game starts so you guys get us talk yeah free like a discord call or like at this point yeah you know what's crazy is that there was after after we lost to nysl i went back there and we were just having a conversation about like the post game conversation and i was saying this that and the other blah blah blah blah blah and i'm like i realized i'm like wait these cameras are on yeah these cameras are on shut them all off right now and i call mad over where I'm like, yo, are these songs? Like, yeah, anyway, we shot them off and I'm like,

they better not use any of that. And sure enough, a week later, they're using some of those conversations in there. Yeah. Now I know that- They used every conversation that's in there. Yeah. They used nine minutes. They used every opportunity of pre or post game that they could.

To give you an idea. Of our whole match. To give an idea, if we don't touch that right now, they could be listening to this podcast. That's how it is, right? It's behind the screen, but it's there. It's always live. If they, if they chose to, they could hop in just to listen in on people.

Okay, so normal transition here. So last year, one time, when I was in Cali, this is a true story. I was, we just finished like a day where we played or something. And like my camera was like set up to where like the competitive integrity camera, whatever, you know what I'm talking about? So like it was like next to my setup. So I didn't really notice it. So later that night, I'm beating my shit. And I'm like, I don't realize it.

No, just listen, so I don't realize it until like, I'm getting towards, you know, the final chapter of my session. Right. And then I look at the camera and then. It was blue. No, it was still white. And then I was thinking to myself like, could he be watching? And then I just finished. And then I just looked at the camera and then I look at the camera and I was just like.

You finished it with the lip tape? Yeah. And I was like, hope you enjoyed the show and just closed it and went to bed. That's a true story. That'll be up on Twitter. I swear to God that's a true story. That's great. Thank you for sharing.

It's all I could think about what you guys are talking. I can imagine. But yeah, it's so whack they posted that. For the record, Matt. My food's here. We have three cameras. Somebody. For the record, right?

We have the entrance, the whole wide shot. And then we have the other one. So please. Go to your apartment. Go to your apartment. Or the back room. No, I'm talking about last year. Okay, yeah, I'm just saying.

I would never be off here. Yeah, no. Unless I was alone at like 4 a.m. Come on, man. And Davis was done streaming and Brandon went to bed. Yo, I... It's so unlikely. I mean, the merge closet is a blind spot just so you know.

Dude, I appreciate your honesty and I got to thank you for sharing, I guess. Hey, man, I'd rather be as transparent as possible. I've cranked one out in here and he has cameras before. Oh, you didn't. That's just fucking weird. Over there, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like doing it in public. You're kind of into it.

Huh? You're like, you're kind of hoping somebody walked in? You're like, come on, come on. It was at like 4 a.m. All right, moving on. You looked at me, you were like, keep a watch out. Okay, so I stayed in the hallway. You're good, you're good.

One thing, though, last week we were kind of doing that thing where we interrupt Nick every single time he was going to talk and we took turns interrupting him until he, you know. But the viewers didn't get that. That's what we're doing it. And us talking over each other. like what's bad audio experience so let's try to keep that at that.

Now you know why we did that last week we apologize, we'll be a little bit better this week. They added in Apocalypse and Express into the map rotations. So they took out Garrison, but they left Miami? Yeah. I mean, I agree with it.

Miami's probably a better S&D map. Obviously the map's still not great, but Garrison, like, you can only use one bomb. Miami, you can at least utilize both bombs. Like Garrison, I'd love to see. stat. The other, like the back alley bomb site was probably planted like 2% of the rounds. Really?

Oh, just not if you play against the old middle optic. Never planned. Never planted probably. Because nobody wants to hit out green like you're dead. Yeah. Bro, me and Hutch climbed green simultaneously in unison. I peek. I bait. He starts shooting. He retreats while I do my slide cancel into a jump up, lay down right around the corner, taking down my opponent. But you're playing 3B3s. Jump slide. In 4B3. In 4V4s?

Okay, we got it. In 4V4s, there's a guy rotating small door and just watching the cross too, so you're literally jumping into two people just like shooting you jumping. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're playing Express though, and... Apocalypse?

Apocalypse? Apocalypse is fun. Apocalypse is one of the better maps. It is. It might be the best hard point. It seems like it would be super... Is it super fast? It's pretty quick, but it's like really punishing you play it, right?

It might be the best hard point. Even better than Raid. Really? Yeah. Because Raids really side-heavy. That might be a little cap because it's a little new, but... Raid's really side-heavy, though. Apocalypse is, but it isn't.

Like, you can... Raid's not side-heavy? Uh-oh. I don't think so. The good side's pretty good. No, we just suck at the bad side. Look, listen, identifying once, you know, faults is the best way to get better at the faults.

What are you saying to me? I don't know. Okay, so... Are you guys happy? Yeah. That's for me. I mean, yeah. We just got six one on Gary and they're moving.

I'll tell you why later. Matt didn't get a kill. That's what I thought was fucked up. That I went 0 and 6 on Miami and they kept it in. He went 0 and 6 on Gary and it gets taken out. He gets Owen 6th on Gary and they just take it out. It happens, man. How would you point?

He cried. I was just like, yeah, whenever it's fucking. I did not cry physically. Physically, you didn't cry physically. Emotionally? I didn't cry physically. Emotionally? Yeah, I was so pissed.

Were you? I didn't even get. a chance. You know what Seth is. He was already imagining the tweets. Yeah. You're in your own head, man. You're getting gunfights.

How are you getting your own head? I was like, what's next map? He's just like, I was, I regained really quick. He's like, look at how many retwees this tweet has already. Go watch the comms video. Live.

I regained. Go watch the comms video. You can see me. Oh, yeah. I'm not, that better be down by the time we get done with this podcast. I just looked at the group chat and everyone's like, what the, all the pros are like,

what the fuck? Yeah. I can imagine, yeah. Yeah. So that's really fun. Yes, because they know, they know that it's like, it's like big brother, it's like big brother watching you at all times. Like that shouldn't be a thing.

It's like the anti-privacy laws are like in the air right now. Like I don't even want to tell you what my lawyer are saying. I get it if like I said, A, if it's like funny, like witty stuff, that's who cares about that. But if it's the point where you're shit talking like, like the NFL does it like miced up where they have the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're talking. You know when you're mic'd up. They don't put when they're talking shit talking.

to each other out there. Right. They know that they're gonna be put in a video. You know they're still talking shit. Right. That's because somebody from the NFL comes up and mics them up. You're like, hey, be careful. You're miced up the whole day.

But I guarantee you, they still talk shit even though they're mighted up. And I've seen, I've seen, I've seen mic'd ups. I did watch a lot of those on YouTube where like they'll go up to a teammate and they'll be like, you know, right, right. They'll just like walk away. And they're just like, oh shit, I just like go somewhere else. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

It's like they're like a leper. Yeah. Dude. Hey. Just talk to me, dude. again I think it's it's just the production team trying to do their best to get eyeballs on shit but I get it but this is what I I don't like that because you're forcing like even when we're doing the the group picks they're like yeah you know just fucking banter with each other I was like that's

not how banter works man at least ask like that's not why I'm man they didn't even ask us and it's like a month ago this is a league match a month ago it's not even relevant anymore and there's like dude's fucking posted oh it wasn't it didn't even Oh yeah you guys didn't play them yeah it was like three weeks it'd be different if it was like fresh you know yesterday they did by one right they they won three two yeah but like it's just like they didn't even ask us for permission or anything and just posted this eight minute video of us just talking shit by each other yeah i'm not i'm not a big fan of that again it's it's there's ways to get views without having to do all the extra drama you don't got to try that hard man like

you know you know how much how much better off or how many more subs we would have today if I would have posted the fight between him and Nate shot back in the day we chose to keep that out We chose to... You still have that? Of course I still have that. I don't see that. What was that?

60-50. They beat the fuck out of him. Seth was like, did you get me punching the door? Did you just not even a good angle anymore? It's just blood. No, it's just the door. It's like...

That one when Seth was all jacked? Yeah. I'm a fucking screaming today. He walked in with a coffee. at 4 a.m. And Nate was already streaming at 3 a.m. And Seth was like, you fucking kidding me! I said, you don't fucking tell me, Nate. And then I punched a hole through the door.

You know what a Nate do. He coward and fear. No, he didn't. Shut the fuck. What do you say? I don't remember. I want to see his video. Nate was trying to fight. Yeah, I was holding him back. Let me at him.

Let me at him. Let me at him. I don't remember that. He said he was staying in a shirtless. I was like, what? And then I punched the door and walked out, right? Yeah, you punched the door and then slam the door. then walked into your room and slam that door.

And I'm pretty sure you slammed. Bro, Vision would have been so high back then. That's so hard. But again, we chose to keep that out because one, nobody needs to. That's like a private moment. You know what I mean? I will slam that shit hard as fun. Like, we could, we could in theory.

That's just gone. We could in theory upload. Imagine if we fit spots. That had scrimms the next day. He'd be so chocked. Imagine if we uploaded the real reason why he went and he, That's what I'm saying. Like, imagine if all those years of vision when that team hated each other and I was,

and I just kept going on like they were best friends. Yeah. Wait, why he went and I stayed? No, all four you broke up. Broke up. I don't even remember. Yeah, cool. Who cares?

We're here now. And now we're talking about war zone hackers. I'm trying to get in. It's like at events. It's like always give them their moment. I like to celebrate. Oh, it's back for to celebrate. You're still trying to get in on it?

Yeah. No, I'll be asking. Just fucking go, guys. Come on, hurry up, hurry up. Congratulations all of you. Okay, here I come. Congratulations. All right.

Warzone hackers can now end the game in Wars. I saw that. I've seen that. Wait, what? I don't give a fuck. What is it? I don't want to play that game anymore. So I don't play it either.

Hachers? They can end the game? Yeah. So there's a clip of a hacker just like messing up a few people and then it go, black screens it goes into a final kill camp and the game just ends wait dude i was playing a league play game the day this is funny that you said that um

i was playing a league play game like i was about to get off so i was like whatever but i it's crossroads hard point we go to first hill i get one kill and then die and the game ends and it says that the host ended the game and i was like what the fuck and i lose league play points and i was like i'm getting the fuck off i wasn't streaming or anything so it wasn't really documented you think that they maybe found like the exploit in i don't know dude it was so weird It was like right when someone would end the game too. Like it got like kind of quiet for a second and then it's like ended it. I was like what the hell?

Maybe if you get a host something and you just quit, it just like ends the game. It's like cod for style. Yeah. That sucks. Just cut this whole thing so that no one ever does this again. What if it is a thing? Now it's now people know. Yeah, I completely missed all that because we have such good questions in the comments this week

that I think I'm only going to pick one and then use the rest in the future. Okay. Was there before? No. No, no. Matt's so good that he heard me. Oh. My discontent.

Roger would never do that. All right, so. I just see his head. Yo, we need Roger to show. All right, so, yeah, so they, and I haven't played war zone. Actually, I'd lie, I just played war zone for two hours, two weeks ago, or last week, and nothing happened. But the fact that this is a thing, and you know what's crazy is that, um, I think Joe Woe suggested what I suggested way before he suggested it, which was to release a skin that would pay for the, the war zone thing. thing. And then Maven

said that it's not a money thing. It's not a money thing. If it was a money thing, I mean, they have billions of dollars. Yes. A market cap of 40-something billion. Yeah, I don't understand. It has to do with $1,000 million. I understand. I'm just kidding.

It has to do with like how the game was like built. Like you can't, they like can't stop hackers, basically. They have to go in. They have to go in and like So what if they just run rampant? What if everybody downloaded hacks?

That's what I feel like they are doing. I feel like a normal person. What if every single person that plays Warzone downloaded hacks so they had to? And then it was like actually a competition of who was a better hacker and that's what it turns into? A hackathon? And then like, you know what's the better hacker is now the biggest streamer? Like that'd be kind of cool. Do you think that when they?

In an alternate universe. You know how they have hackathons where like hackers, I don't know if hackers got to get to. I don't know. I've been invited hackathons. They're like, hey, you're in gaming. You want to come to this hackathon? go to one of those. You go on the public network, boom, there's your fucking dick on Twitter. What? What? What? I see your point. I kind of, I guess. I did not follow that at all.

Everyone's just trying to hack your shit. You're just derailed. You're trying to rot. Yeah, that's pretty good. You're just like hacking and then your dicks on the internet. I mean, yeah. They can go into your phone, access anything, and then boom. There it is. Oh, you're saying just like hanging around hackers? I mean, yeah, if you're on, like, Wi-Fi, they can hack. Public network. Oh, yeah, yeah. So if you go on the Starbucks Wi-Fi, Boom. Shouldn't have done that. See,

this is a perfect time to plug in ExpressVPN. Use code. This is the wrong podcast. Packathon. I don't know. I think that at this point, I'm done talking about it. They're not going to do anything.

No amount of pressure. Big Star could go on another. I'm quitting this thing. I think that if Nick Murricks and Tim the Tapman, if all of them just went to Ford, right? I bet you, I bet you they would start doing something. Not because then other people would just,

like not take their place obviously but they would just gain no no no not those two not those two they wouldn't take I'm not saying they would take anything from them I'm not saying they would take anything from I would say people would just watch other people on war zone I mean yeah the war zone like someone else would just blow up like Aden or something

would you start getting more and more viewers I don't know not necessarily blow up but definitely gain like more traction for sure bro Nick Merck's has fucking how many people watching them work out you know what I'm like I'm one of them too How do I know? I was watching my dude

Dude's like I'm just sitting here watching a stream the whole time Like Come on Come on Oh man It's so good for everything All I'm saying is that

I don't know what kind of drastic measures The community needs to take In order for somebody to do something about that And if it's true And what you're saying It's facts That it was the way that the game was built And there's nothing to put in there

That will stop the anti-cheat then I don't know what the future looks like for that iteration of college. I mean, people always play it. I don't know if that's true though. People always play it. Hackers, you're not. You think?

Yeah. I mean, it's the go-to-game right now. If people were to have gotten, if people were to get sick of it, they would have gotten sick of it already. Yeah, that's how I feel about it too. I'm sick of it. I'm not playing it.

I haven't played it. Okay, but that's also because you're the owner of a CDL team and you enjoy playing Cold War. A lot of people don't like Cold War. A lot of people don't like Cold War. Like, they don't like public matches. They don't like league play. I don't like public.

If you don't like Cold War, you're just going to play Warzone. Warzone was like, period. When we played it, it was fun. But then when we started playing Cold War, I just like never really thought about War zone. I mean, yeah, because we can't play it. No, even if I wanted to, I'd play it if I wanted to. I just fucking, like, don't even really have an urge to play it. I like playing Cold War.

I mean, I'm content with it. Yeah. I think it's fun. You know how they say youth is wasted on the young and money is wasted on the rich? I think college duty skills are wasted on the pros. If I had your skill, half your skill, I'm not saying that you're It came out wrong

It came out wrong it came out wrong it came out He's so tight He's staring at me like, God, you're so fucking Let's say if I had 10% of your skill and 10% of your skill I would play that shit now you could not get me off of that It came out the wrong way All I'm saying as good as you were half as good as you That's so fun

I didn't mean it I just get clown now No it was it came out the wrong way Dude, don't say that. What's up, tubby? People used to come to my stream. Holy shit, how do you shoot so straight? Now they come in, what's up, tubby?

Like, that's so fucked up. They even at you, too, and so you, like, have to look at it. Yeah, so it pops up red. Your name's highlighted and shit. Yeah. I'm, like, I pop a three-piece. I'm, like, looking for, like, an OMG in the show. I'm like, all.

You got for that. I look at it again, and I just see at formal, nice three-piece, tubby. And it's my own mod, and I'm like, what the fuck? They're all in on it. Heavy. Goddeme. All right.

Cloaksy got released from Faze. None of our business, but thank you. Happy for both of the parties. I like Cloakie. I like Cloxie a lot. I like Cloxie and I like Faze. Who said what? All right.

CLG, C9 and Dignitas have all acquired an all-female Valorin teams. Awesome. I support it. I support it 100%. I've actually been loving watching Ballarat. I like watching the clips. I'll see random clips on Valoran.

I'm like, I've been watching a lot of Valorin. Because usually CS was my go-to, but Valorant's been really? It's pretty fun to watch. It's like a better looking CS. I can't wait until because like right now they're still in like the,

they don't have like the funding by riot or whatever to have like official league. Whenever they get an official league for that, I think it's going to be. Yeah, I'm sure the funding is not going to come from the league as much as kind of come from the owners that. Well, you know what I'm saying.

Whenever they. That apply for that. Not funding, but whenever they get the infrastructure and like figure it out. Yeah, yeah. I think I think that at this point there has to be some drastic dress.

Oh, he's an alpha like. Business. He's an alpha. Business. He's an alpha. I do business. I mean, you're a beta. Alpha Betas.

Yeah, fucking. Shout out to the boys, Alpha Betas. Are y'all watch that? No. The boys? It's so good. Oh, the boys? I started watching it.

No, no, no. Alpha Betas. What the fuck's going on right now? What are you talking about? Alpha Betas? So Alpha Betaeus is Vanos, Marcel. Terrorizer. They made like a...

Yeah, yeah. They're like a YouTuber. They made like an actual... Animation cartoon. Oh, that's cool. Like animated by the same people that did Rick and Morty. It's really, really, really, really, They've always thought that though they've been ahead of the game yeah I've watched it like old stuff I never even heard of it but I watched their old stuff too and it was way ahead of it's a way ahead of its time

YouTube you know who's also swan us that's a super swole shredded Oh, um have you guys seen the boys? I feel like you haven't and I've started you guys need to watch the boys The boy is that the it's on Amazon Prime and it's probably the best show in Amazon Yeah, it's probably the best one you would like that a lot yeah it's like an adult show It's not like a kid superhero show it's like it's like what you'd want like an adult superhero should it be like yeah yes it's pretty graphic too like like like you know what I'm saying I'm gonna watch that out of my way I hit you with my beam and you're just like yeah yeah it's ripping people apart like yeah yeah it's sick it's like

it's like a world at war with the with the sniper rifle with a PXR whatever and your limb just goes no starts switching on the ground it's no it's like superheroes are each other apart what is you not getting here it's not a gun when a train it's not a sniper right when a chain a train through the girl. Okay, I'm not watching it. In the first five seconds. I'm not watching it.

You need to watch it though. So back on this, Valorin, all female teams, I think it's about time. I do think that with this sort of access and support, we will start to see more girls sort of like breakthrough. I will want nothing more than to have, you know, a girl on the squad who would be replaced. I don't know.

Like the Codd Squad? Yeah. Why don't? Yeah, right. It's so good. So yeah, congratulations. I think I support it. I don't know if it should be like, how do you treat that?

Do you sort of? Well, see they can compete. Is it open? Well, CS, I think CS had a girls league. CLG. CLG, like CLG red, I think it was. They were pretty dominant in like the girls. Miss Harvey.

Yo, who's been like the most cracked girl gamer of all time? In Call of Duty? Just in gaming history. Has there ever been like a girl that was just like cheating on everyone? I don't know. There's a few like, There's a heartstone player that's really good, really notable.

She destroys people. Oh, wait. You're talking about a hafu? I don't know. I don't know. Oh, no, you were talking about the person that won a tournament. Yeah, yeah. What about the first person shooters or shooters?

I mean, CS had like a big scene from what I remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There were some old school Halo pros. There were some girls like Zena. Yeah. Was like one of them. I think the girl next door was like another one. I don't know.

They were pretty sure they were really good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in full support. They were hot. I was like, I was like, I was like, dude. I missed it.

I'm just to see what I'm making the face. They start laughing. Oh, got it. It is fine. Come on, man. Still hot. Whatever, just good. You didn't hear what he just said.

No, I passed on it. He was talking about Halo girls, and he was like, I was eight. They were hot. And then I hit the lip. What? And you were championing? No, not yet. What, he was eight?

I was eight. Yeah, there was an eight-year-old pro-name little poison. Playing kickball. I remember that. There was a pro-name little poison. Really? Yeah. But I'm pretty sure.

I bet you got called Squeaker a lot. No. People used to call everyone. It was so weird. Oh my God, I just got a flashback to that kid. Okay. Yeah, he was gross. Check this out.

There was a time during Call of Duty something where Little Poison was going to come play for Optic, and at the time I hadn't taken over, it was still like super early days. And that's when there was a power struggle between, like, the team. There was an in team. Yeah, it was like, it was crew, Jay, Diesel, and they sort of like overtook crew. Yeah. And they're like, we're doing this because it's good for the brand or whatever.

And I'm just sitting there like eating popcorn. I'm like, holy shit. Y'all send messages on Xbox Live. Just like, you get his ass. We're doing this. Anyway. Yeah. But it ended up, I don't know what happened after that.

But Little Poison was in the conversation back down. I just literally out of the back of my archive, yeah. came this one memory. I feel like as he got older though, he'd lose less hype. Like once he just became poison and he was like 16,

you'd be like, I don't really want to play with you anymore. Teenage poison. It was cool when you were eight, but now you're like 12. Where's poison now? I've no idea. Exactly.

Dude, I could be making this up, but I swear to God, I saw something like recently in the past couple years that was saying that he was cheating or his dad was cheating for him or some shit.

Yeah. He had like a monitor or some shit. Yeah. I could have made that up. If I did, I'm sorry, poison. Because I know he's not little anymore. Mr. Poison. Yeah, Mr. Poison and Junior Poison, Jr.

Yeah, Senior Poison or Mr. Poison. We don't know. I have no idea. I just made that all up. I don't know. All right, so here's a, what are we at? What's the time over there, Maddie? All right, perfect time.

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And hey, listen, if you want to sponsor the podcast, we are available for sponsorship, as you obviously saw there. Casey Nicestan's brother starts his own YouTube channel. Have you seen it? I have not. I have not. So good. Really? Yeah.

This dude, do you remember the name now? His name? The unachievable man or the undisruptible man? Something like that. It's a dope series. I watched episode one, and I could not stop watching it. It's like a Casey Nystatt, but it's like Casey Nystatt before Casey Nistat became Casey Nistadt. His brother, Van, bro, everything you look, you feel where, like, the Nistats have this culture within them.

Right. Where they are, what is it? The spirited man. Holy shit, bro, you got to watch it. This dude fixes anything. If he sees something wrong with something, he's. He takes it upon himself to fix it. Right?

It doesn't matter what it looks like. I'm not going to ruin it for you, but it doesn't matter what it looks like. Like say this microphone was like wobbly, he would solder three cans to the table to make sure that it would never move again. Are we back in the podcast? Yeah, we are. Bill Kenny's calling me.

Well, tell Bill to fucking chill. Shout out Bill Kenny. Anyway, as I was saying, you got to watch it. You don't watch Casey and I said anymore, right? No, I never really watched, like, I, I've never really gotten into YouTube just in general, like any of, like, the vlog, YouTubers or... So what do you watch on YouTube? What's the go-to? Nothing. Katz?

No, I don't really watch YouTube. Do you have something that you watch on YouTube? Well, you watch battle rap. You watch battle rap. Yeah, but it's on my go-to. Like, it's just like, I'll just like, I'll just scroll YouTube. Yeah, I'll watch like the weird shit on YouTube. Remember when a case and I said, like, go in, um, fly first class and you'd show you what it's like.

Those are interesting. Oh, yeah, I've seen those. Those are cool. Yeah, well, those are the ones that are. super viral one almost got 40 million views so what do you watch on youtube that like shit about the black plague or the cosmos or

deep sea shit that scares you mariana trench north sentinel island you name it you're gonna tap like that on the podcast there's no way you do i just refuse to believe that you watch too much tv shows to like watch youtube like that uh we have like a couple nights a week where we'll just get lost in youtube we watch shit about the dark web the silk road all that shit

silk road what is how could i just be naming these things off Like you think I'm some imbecile. Silk Road is where you buy drugs off the internet. Tool time. So I've heard. Wait, what? Silk Road is where you buy drugs off the internet.

Ah. Yeah. And it's gotten taken down like a hundred times. Yeah, and I've watched like conspiracy theories about that and alien shit. It's crazy that the dark web only exists because the government needs it to, to communicate with each other. But it also allows criminals to communicate with each other too.

So is the dark? The real web is only the tip of the ice. Or the deep web. We should get a, we should get a, um, mystery box off the dark web. No, we should. Though.

Yeah. Those videos, they're fucking crazy. That'd be a fucking crazy video. Wait, should we? Yeah, I mean, they get fucking crazy. Get it just to see what it's like. What's the way to see? Like,

weird shit. I mean, like, come on, bro. Like a fucking severing hand. Get the fuck out of you. I swear to God. I swear to God. Imagine being the one that it's like, what do you do?

He's like, oh, I put drop boxes together for the dark web. Yeah. He's like, oh my God. Yesterday I put a finger in there. It was so dope. It's so weird. You got like a fighting fish and like fucking

like I don't know some like slime I don't know get the fuck is that really it's fucking weird as fuck wait what you watch this I suppose watching videos

on YouTube so that's what you watch there's no way they showed a severed hand on YouTube I swear to God what actually no

it might have been cap but it's shit like that it's weird weird shit it's weird stuff it's weird shit but also like a lot of that it's like scams

they're like buy a mystery box off the dark web and it's like empty water bottles yeah oh well but

it's like you know what I saw you know what I saw You know what I saw that was fucking genius? This dude took a picture of an ad of a PlayStation 5 on eBay. Okay? Okay. And he posted it. He's like, $300.

All sales are final. Go ahead. Get as many as you want. In the fine print, he said, I am not actually selling a PlayStation 5. I am selling a picture of the PlayStation 5. By purchasing this, you agree to pay the full amount and it's non-refund. I repeat it is non-refundable you will not get a refund when you realize that you didn't buy what you thought you bought I am selling the sheet of paper with an image on it that happens to be a PlayStation 5 Man that is so magic people five people buy that shit and get so pissed but because of the disclaimer

Obviously I bought a sheet of paper for 300. I mean nobody's what would you do I would get in trying to resell it I would try to do the same thing and put it for 400 350 I'm not fucking stupid I actually wanted this So I could do it I wanted to flip it I want to flip this piece of paper I'll have a receipt That shows I bought it

And I'm just gonna resell it And guess what I'm make copies of it And put in there there's a copy Of the picture All the thing that went by the left And you just build a fucking Empire Of this like Ponzi scheme

Build a what? Shit All right so you should definitely Take the time to watch it If you guys are into like Crimson shows up Build an empire Build an empire

Build an empire What do you talk about what? He says it three times then Crimsex appears. Oh, oh. Yeah. That was funny. You should watch it.

If anybody's into building stuff and working with your hands, watch it. It's so good. The story behind it is good. Bro, you gotta watch it. It's that dope. Yeah, yeah. Casey said that he's better than him, but I don't think anyone's better than Casey. Well, his brother's better than him?

Yeah. Casey, like straight up said it, and I was like... How old is his brother? Uh, older. He's older? Yeah, like 12. How old is Casey? Like, he's seven years older, I think.

How old's Casey? Thirty. Four. No, no, no, 38. Oh, shit. Casey Nais says 38 years old. Damn. I know because I'm 41 and we have like the same shape and we can run as long as each other. Okay, Ludwig, Sabathon.

I think that's cool. Ludwig? He beat Hutch in a chess game. Barely. Hutch had him, but Hutch choke. He beat Hutch? Barely. Hush good at chess?

Yeah. Well, Hudge like tries at chest, yeah. Hutch goes hard. That sucks. That's a pretty bad loss. He's got a 1600 Elo, whatever that fucking means. Yeah. He was hard.

I beat Cap and chess, not long ago. He's supposed to be Grandmaster. Who? Cap. Jay Cap. Jay Cap. Jay Cap is not a Grandmaster. He's a wannabe. But he doesn't have an account on Chess.com.

He's a grandmaster. He's a fucking cedar. That's pretty good. That's a braggable thing. Being a Grandmaster is like, being a Grandmaster is like, he was bragging. Cap was bragging. He was like trying to intimidate me. He's like, are you going to play?

Not a lot. How many Grandmasters are there? I think there has to be like 1,200. I don't know. 20? No, 200 in the world. 200? Like, 1,200 in the world. That makes sense.

Hodge, who plays every single day, several matches. Does he really? Yeah, and he does the puzzles and shit. He's not a grandmaster. Well, yeah. There are a total of 1,500 grandmasters. Dude, imagine being a grandmaster in chess. That's crazy, dude.

It'd be like being a college duty world champion, so congratulations. It's even better than that, because you're basically wanting to be wanting at that point. Like, you just want to be wanting someone. And it's like, you're, you're like, you're, against their wit. You know what I'm saying? So there's nothing else like you're the top. I mean you're one out of 1500. How much of it is wit and how much of it is a strategy?

All I'm saying like it's all strategy. All encompassing. So is it wit or is it strategy? It's literally like a little bit of both. Because strategy like you could Premeditated. Because strategy like you can't go in every match doing the same thing right? So like you have to like adjust. Like you have to win an opening and to win the opening that just means you don't lose basically. It's like us. Yeah. It's like us. You don't fuck up off the

right. It's like us. We watch Vod. That's our strategy. And then our wit is our one V1 skill. like in the game when the situation breaks down. Oh, sure. That is actually true. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. In search, it's like the break off and then after you break, if it's 4-4, then you just have to play.

Yeah, I played chess in high school only because of Wu-Tang and then I completely stopped playing and I told Haji, I'll play you. And then I saw how good he was and I was like, fuck. So what I did, what I did is I went to Yahoo chess. I opened up and I would do, put it on hard and whatever move he made, I made, and then I would make the move that the machine made on him. That's actually chevious. So he might think your godlike.

No, I lost track. Oh, yeah. Let me show you follow. He's just stopped. I love. I'm like, last time I played chess, I lost two Nick in three moves. And so I was like, fuck this game. Really?

Yeah, but he like Googled it right before. Oh, he Googled like a move? Yeah. He was like, dude, I don't play that much. And then I was like, okay. Like, I know how the pieces work. Imagine Nick is like this savant. And then he just goes, he goes, check me.

And I was like, what, like, fuck you for Googling that right before we played. And I never played again. I did watch a TikTok last night. That was like a strategy. that'll work on like most elo players. It was saying like it'll work on standard middle tier players. And I was like, damn, that shirt was Godlike. Yeah.

I didn't favorite it else I'd show you guys, but it was pretty cool. I started watching the Queens Gambit. I can't tell you what happened, but it was cool. I started watching the Queen's Gambit again. Such a good show. Moving on from that. That's one of the best shows I've ever seen. Speaking of COVID.

That show was cool. I'm just kidding. I always say that because I watched a lot of shows because of COVID. But it's been an official full year of lockdown in COVID. It's March. It feels like longer than that. It does. I thought it was longer than a year.

Bro, it is so wild to me how in Texas, like it's wide open. It's wide open. I was thinking about what was last time when we were all in person at an event? Was it London? No, it was Atlanta. Yeah. And the guy said, long flight home. I said, not really, it's an hour and a half.

Who said that? Some guy backstage. We already talked about this. So the guy came up and he was like, long flight home. And I said, not really. It's an hour and a half. Got you. He was kind of right.

talking to me I was like yeah it is four and a half I was like dapping up temper and some fucking just random background long flight home I'm like yo congrats yeah yeah good win the long flight home douche said what I wish I would have been there see who what the fuck people I always miss the cool shit that's not cool yeah because I would have fucking talk shit to him what I was definitely someone it was definitely someone trying to like make a name I would have like just got I would have like Tommy you think you think you think he said out of here now I'm I feel insulted you would have Like you think he watches these and laughs? He's like yeah, I fucking do.

He's probably like, he's like, yeah. Like I'm so down for phase that I don't see a world in which you guys could be friends. Yeah. Meanwhile. Never mind. All right. Questions. Last segment of, oh, no, one year, one full year of lockdown.

How do you feel? Do you feel like we're ready to go back to, are you going to get the shot? No. You're not going to get the shot. I'm not getting turned into a lizard person. Okay. Are you getting the, I'll tell you that. I'll wait.

Vaccine? Because like, things have been cool here. I've heard a lot of weird things about the vaccine, so I'm a little bit skeptical. So I will let people... I'm getting it to turn into a littered person. I'm hoping for that, too. Actually, I don't know. I'm going to wait until, you know, the people that need to get it, but I'm not going to lie.

If it's available and I can get... You get it? I am a little sketch about it. I'll tell you one thing. I don't want to get it. If somebody hits us up and says, hey, we got a guy, a certified physician, a distributor vaccines. Not found about Craigslist.

Dude. Not found on Craigslist. It's like a legitimate person from a hospital wearing a white gown and the but does it make you a hundred percent immune? Okay, here's where I'm catch about it. During the early stages of the vaccine being announced and stuff, I watched something or I read something about, fuck, what is that company called? There was like two companies that made the shit, right?

Yeah, it might have been that. And it was talking to the CEO of that company and he's trying to convince everyone like, yo, this is so fucking, it's legit, take it. And then they were like, why don't you have it? And he was like, not. trust it's good but he like he didn't take it himself and I was like what the fuck I saw you be like I saw a post like you should be the one that's doing I saw a post that's apparently the CDC released a zombie a zombie survival like guide after people after the vaccine

was released and on the day on the day that I Am legend was released where people turned into zombies from getting vaccinated and then they crazy shit bro I'm telling you yeah same day I'll tell you one thing. Same plot, real life. Well, I'm going to tell you right now that... Why are you laughing? Roger. Hell yeah. I'm getting a baseball bat. That's not, that's crazy coincidence.

First of all, I'm going to tell you one thing. Think about it. Okay? I am happy that I am friends with Toby Thomas, okay? Battle Springs Ranch. You know what we're doing? We're going to the farm in Oklahoma. Are you going to get there?

During zombies? I'm going to try with my fucking Ford wrapped there. There's zombies running all over the fucking ball? You're going to pull up and there's going to be no answer. Who would be friends of them there? with you if there was a celebrity apocalypse. Like I'm looking around and like, I don't trust anybody. You know what I mean?

No. Like maybe you. Yeah, that's fucked up. But then also like, I was supposed to you, but then I would also know that you're smart enough to protect your family and I wouldn't blame me for not trusting me. Right. Exactly. Yeah.

Would you trust me? Yeah. Of course. Fuck no. What do you mean? You're a zombie in the first 10 minutes. 100%. A hundred percent.

I would make sure they mind. Then you're a zombie. Oh, I'd be the one giving it to you. I'd be a zombie five minute. Wait, pause. Is it a pause or is it? Jesus now. I think I think I'm well prepared for that.

I'm just saying, think about it. I don't have to. I'm prepared, I'm ready to go. I've done zero research. I had a question. I had a question. Yesterday, Mario and I were talking. Do you guys remember that one little,

that viral video that came out of the guy walking a track in Northern California and the little ass cat was like swiping rocks at him and was like following for a long-ass time? Oh, yeah, yeah. Not a little last cat. Yeah, it was a bobcat. Yeah. Would you not have confronted that bobcat and like try to throw in these?

How did you get to hear? Well, we're talking about survival. Pretty good. I think we've already talked about this on the podcast. I would have done basically exactly what he did. Pulled out your phone and recorded. What are you going to charge it? Are you going to charge it?

I would, yeah, we'd try to stand my ground or throw rocks at it. If I'm throwing a rock, you're a pureina at that point. The little cat that was, not the bobcat. It's a bobcat that was like, Oh, the slide cancelling one. Yeah, a slide canceling bobcat. He's Pierina if he rushes that thing. Catch out.

Bro, you saw how big you was? Seth, did you, the reason that I'm bringing that up is because there was a bobcat that came by in front of my house. And I'm going to, actually, we can't share this because it's facing the street. But look at how big my man's is right here. And then you can show you a little bit. Wait, I can't see that. What the fuck?

Oh, wait. He's like the size of Benji. Almost. That was a bobcat? Yeah. He's like the size of energy. I don't know what kind of cat it was, but it was definitely like a thing. Anyway, that's right outside your house?

Yeah. If I was awake at 1.45 a.m. Yeah, massive, right? That is big. That's bigger than buzz. No. Yeah, that's bigger than buzz. It's like right under buzz.

That's, dude, cats walk around like fucking like, like all tiny. We measured. Anyway. Whatever. Did you see it, Matt? They measured. Wasn't that big then. Whatever.

I was trying to back. He just said they measured. Would you go get the tape measure? I know. What? That was cap. No. How did you measure it?

Because I saw where he put the paw in their squares in front of my house. So I grabbed Benji, put his paw there and then screenshot it from the nest cam the way that we did it and compare side by side. Don't ask my message. This guy thinks he's bare grills. Yeah, what the fuck was that? All I'm saying is that I would have I would have done. He didn't measure. He didn't know right.

He didn't call it. He's still going. Wait. He's going to try to move roofies. I was committed. He backed down. No, I did back out. We did measure it.

Whatever. Hey, sir. Oh my God. I don't have to be. here for this i don't care i want to eat my case and be a dude i actually want to hear what she says now all right you better not give any indication that you're being i'm not i'm not but i am gonna say that you didn't we baby hey you are you're on speakerphone right now yeah what what did we do yesterday did we measure the how big the cat was yesterday okay thank you it's just such a good

wife that has nothing to do with the story that's just so cap Yeah. Okay, whatever. Let's move on. Last segment of the show. I am so mad. No, y'all are just pissing him. Okay.

Emil Borkvist. Emil Vyorkvist says, is this actually a good question? There's actually three good questions this week, which means that the production team actually went in there and started reading as opposed to all the other times. Got it. Emil Bjorksvist says,

if the dynasty cod squad would have stuck together during World War II, going into blackups four when it was 5B5, which player would you guys have liked to picked up to be your fifth? I think so these are good questions. It's actually a good one. I never thought about it. I've been asked it like, fucking hundred times.

Do you disagree? You don't think it's a good question? It is a good question. It was a good question the first time I read it. What was your answer? Who would you picked up? I said I would have dropped Seth as well and then I would have picked up.

That's so fucked up. T.J. Yeah, right. I don't know who that would have picked up. So that's going into Blackouts 4? Maybe 8? Maybe. Like Kenny maybe?

Who's coming off World War II? Yeah, Kenny maybe? Kenny or like Zuma? I don't know. Somebody like that probably. Because I've never had a subduro. It's kind of fucked up. Until now.

Wait, what do you mean? Like when? Like I've never had, like in the dynasty? Who was my subduro? Damon? Yeah. You really didn't have a? I never had a subduo.

It was just me. I didn't really have an AI duo either. I had like kind of, so what the fuck were they doing? I had like three A. I never had a duo. Wait a second. So I'd be nice to have had a subdual. I mean, five to five.

Now you have one in Dillon, though. Yeah, now I have one. And then you have, I have Dashi. My precious. My precious, precious, dash. Hold on to that fucker for dear life. Oh, I'm holding them.

He signed a two years. And that is, yes. That three, four years. His mom signed a 15 years. He's like, he's not playing for anyone ever again, I promise. He signed a two year. All right, that's going to do for this episode. Everybody, thank you so much for tuning in.

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