OpTic Podcast - Addressing The Roster Change | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 205

Episode Date: December 17, 2024

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, welcome, welcome to episode 205 of the Optic podcast brought to you by Shopify, Marvel Snap, Catshap, and I'll tell you a little bit more about them later on in the day. I want to take my glasses off so that we can begin this podcast by addressing something that we couldn't address until somebody addressed it themselves. And I want to thank everybody who has been patient throughout this entire thing. You guys have to understand that, you know, this guy is one of our friends. he's going through a tough time for us to speak before he speaks puts and put something in the air that needs not to be there especially when it's a

when it has you know when it has to do with someone's personal thing I can't discuss on something that isn't my business the same way the scum can't discuss on anything that isn't his business uh and until he predator pred Amir until he spoke, we couldn't speak. And the way that some people have been fucking talking about optic and the matter in which they've been talking about optic, I can clearly see that those guys aren't part of the green wall. Because we have been here for almost 20 years in front of these cameras. You guys have seen what we're about and how we move.

So for anyone to speak dirt on any of our names is completely unwarranted. And in all honesty, you guys have to look at yourselves and say, man, if my business was out there like that, like how would I react? And then you also have to think and say, well, if my boss, let's say Chase Bank or wherever it is that you work, your boss wants to know your information, your private information. if you would be okay with them knowing that, right? Because I've seen a lot of people saying that, you know, we put money in his pocket and this, therefore we deserve. Like, you don't.

And when it's not our place to speak, we're never going to speak on it. And we'll just take it in the chin the way that we have. And until we're able to speak on it, we will. And I will continue to help Pred, the way that I've tried to help Pred, the way that we've all tried to be there for Pred. I was literally, I'm texting with this dude nonstop.

I'm hearing updates nonstop. And because people don't flock to Twitter to reply to his post, that's nobody's business. You don't know what's happening behind the scenes. You don't know like the things that we're all navigating. Like it's, it was, it was kind of gross to, to, to be put in that situation when it's not even our place to fucking. say. So now that he spoke, we continue to wish him the best. We continue to be here for him. And yeah, and look, I'm not really mad. And you guys can hop in on this. I'm not really mad because we didn't really say anything. So the speculation, Christmas came early for these fucking news channels.

You know what I'm saying? Like, and again, that's part of the game. I'm like, I'm not mad at any of it. I'm not mad at any of it. Like, it is what it is, but, you know, I would hope a little bit of some common decency going forward. Yeah, I was, uh, I don't want to make it about me because it's not about me, but it was pretty, it was pretty tough for me because, uh, going live, like, especially on the watch party, like, yeah, I, I, I banned Pred's name on my Twitch channel because as a streamer, I want to be able to sit there and stream and do my thing and, you know, have a good time playing rank with my boys. But whenever every single chat is like, Pred, who, Pred, who. I even banned Hooke's name because I was like, dude, I can't speak on it because it's not my place to speak on. I'm not going to speak about something A, that I don't completely know about. I'm not just going to sit there and bullshit with my chat and make shit up, especially about one of my friends, close friends.

Like, I'm just not going to do that. So yes, ban Pred's name, banned Hooke's name. And that was more for me just because I can't speak about it. I literally, it's not my place to speak about it. I was waiting for AG to be able to come out, tell his side of things, tell, say what's on his mind. because again, when it's a close friend like that, I'm not going to sit there and say things and then say something that's wrong

and then there's even more speculation behind it and then I answer something the wrong way and then people will run with that. And like on the first day that I went live when all these rumors started breaking, all I said was Pred's having some personal things. I can't talk about it. And that was that.

I'm not going to talk about it. It's not my place to speak about. So it was a little frustrating for me just because, you know, people were, people came to me seeking answers, which I totally get in Optic. I've been in Optic for a long time, you know,

very close with the, with everybody, but it was just tough. It was a tough, a tough, like, weak because it's just, it's just frustrating whenever you can't say anything. You can't defend yourself because you,

like there's nothing to defend yourself from. Yeah, it's like, I don't get it. I don't understand why a random person they feel so entitled to know. Like, They have to.

If someone says it's personal, I just, I understand and I leave it alone. Yeah. If it's anything else, okay, maybe I try to nitpick and find it. If it's personal, I leave it alone. That's it. Yeah. It has to do with that person, but. I mean, you could speak on it.

You were on the watch party all weekend. Yeah. It was like, we didn't ban Pred on the watch party. We left Pred open. I mean, and people would just come in and spam Pratt. And it's like, they would just start spamming it. I'm like, dude. Like this is why I did this on Twitch.

Yeah, it was, it was, it was a tough way. It's always, it's always tough like when you're streaming and stuff comes out like that. And you just, it's not your place to speak about it. Because you don't want to talk about it because obviously you don't want to need to spread any misinformation or say anything wrong or or allude to anything that's going on, you know, in a negative light or it's just hard. To it, especially when it has to do with like, if this guy says, yo, I'm having some mental problems. Like, at that point, everything goes out the window and fucking human decency has to step in the way. You know what I'm saying?

Anyway, listen, I don't have to say this on this podcast, but I will. I hate that we even had to address it. I wish that it was just like what it is. So all I'll say is what I continue to say on my text to this dude is that I'm here for him. We're all here for him. And we wish him nothing but the best as always. and I'll I I never close the door with with any of any any any of the players that I've that played for this organization and that have been uh that I've developed relationships with as I as I

did as I did I see even there right there like I did somebody somebody said he did as I do have with with with Pratt to this day so let's move on please okay so this this week in particular switching gears abruptly um this week is particularly a extra work week for everywhere, especially people that are in front of the camera, because for the last two weeks of the year, we usually let staff go for the remainder of the thing. The only people that don't take... It's not even a tough week. No, because it's three... Well, we're filming three podcasts this week. Yeah, it's pretty low. It's pretty low lift for a tough week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just doing more than we should. Like, from a topic standpoint, like we have to be a little bit more grave. Anyway, long story short, we're here all day. We're here all day tomorrow. We're here all day on Friday. There's no watch party this Friday. right? Nope, we're not. We're done for a full month. We don't come back till January 10th, which is the minor tournament. And that's going to be

fun to watch. But yeah, we're done for a full month. And then the minor tournament is where? Online. It's online. Yep. So we will be on that. We're not going to Madrid. Are we not? I thought it was still in the air. Are we just not? Dude, it's your show. I have no dog in the fight in a way. Yeah. I'm there if you want to go.

I'm here if you don't want I've been to Madrid. I wish I wouldn't have gone to Madrid when I did. That way we could have taken this time to go. It is a beautiful city. It is magical. It did climb to the top five cities. The food's fucking insane.

Still in the air. Still in the air. I mean, it's just people don't really get. It's just, it's so expensive to go to that. I mean, to ship all of the equipment over there to get everyone else. To get everyone over there from the business standpoint. Yeah. I mean, we got the players flying.

flying, then you got us flying, then you got the PCs flying, which then you got all the staff flying. I mean, it's an expensive one. And then remember what happens when PCs get lost in the mail? Yeah, and then you have that. What if we fly there? Our PCs get lost. I got to fly right back. It's happened before, you know? Yeah, it's a lot. I think we kind of, we kind of jumped the gun and we didn't really understand like the logistics of it whenever we were like, oh yeah, we're going to, this is awesome we're going to Madrid and then we got hit with what it's going to cost to go to Madrid and we were like oh maybe we're not going to Madrid so

it's kind of kind of one of those but we'll more than likely be at every other event besides Miami Miami will probably do the Airbnb again Fort Lauderdale. Oh yeah because we had so much fun doing it so we'll probably do that again. Such a great time I sure was fun. Chef?

No no no no we're getting a completely new set of chefs we're getting a cool. We're 0 for 2 on Chefs. He's crashing out on the show. Dude, I could, this guy fucking put

meatballs, right out of the oven, put meatballs under the fucking AC you know. I've been into that shit and I'm like, uh,

I like my food hot, especially when it's supposed to be hot. Yeah, no, everything was cold. Diva. So? It was tough.

I mean, and, uh, Mexico, we ate tacos every day. Mm-hmm. Those were kind of fire. But that little soup

with the pinto beans or whatever, I forgot what that shit was gas. So just so you know, like, just so you guys can be cut up on the Mexican. The bean soup that you talk about, those are just beans. No, chiro beans is when you add like the like the like the ham, the hot dogs. I had them for last night from Ernie's.

My mom's flight got delayed so late that she just straight up moved it back a night. So she stayed. So we went to Ernie's and then she left last night. Her flight got delayed again. Oh. Well, she didn't end up leaving until like 11.30 p.m. last night. So we went to dinner. And then she went to the airport after that, like seven.

If like it's delayed again, yeah, it's just snowing in PA right now. So you just grab beans. You put them in a pot. There's usually like one onion and then there's lard in it. And then that's what you, that's what we ate, just plain beans. Once you start adding all the other ingredients, like the chorizo, the chicharon, all the other stuff, then it becomes frioles charros. Or as my brother used to say, frioles gangueros, because he didn't want to say rancheros. You know what I'm saying?

Anyway, I know exactly. Moving away from the food. That is what's going on. Do you guys want to talk a little bit about the league? I wasn't on the watch party because I had to go to... I had already planned a trip to Tokyo, which was incredible, magical. I can't wait for you guys to decide one day to go so that I can just tag along, drop everything that I'm doing and tag along.

That is one of my top, like, three travel destinations is Japan. Dude, Nate's been talking about going. Maybe this off season, we can plan a trip. Because no wedding this off season, that was like... You don't have another wedding? No wedding. No wedding. Two week little, you know, technically two and a half because we all got COVID. But two and a half weeks. So this year I got some time. Bro. I mean, it has got some time.

You guys need to listen to me on this. You need to listen to me on this. And I'm going to tell you why you need to listen to up. Hawaii or something. I don't know. Maybe switch up the islands. St. Trope. Yeah. Well, that's too far. That's in France, right? I don't know. That's pretty far. Is it? I have. I think so. I have a notepad. that's titled Health and in it I write anything that's going on with me for example May 2nd

my index finger on my right hand shakes on its own so pretty much what I was on Twitch where I'm going with this is that if you look at this there isn't a single I have had a cough I have had a head cold

and it is because it sounds like I'm fucking pimping this thing out but dude is the only thing that I've started to do this year that has and it's this like the spray of the of the bee pollen or some shit. Oh, okay.

Everybody, right, right. Bro, I'm telling you, spray twice to the back of the throat every day. Be pollen. And you're good. I'm telling you, right there. That's exactly that one. Should go breathe on flowers and try to fucking... Propolis.

Impregnate them. Propolis throat throat spray. I'm telling you, dude, it is the only thing that I have changed in my life that I'm doing on a daily basis and I have not gotten sick. Jude, live, have had COVID. I literally sleep in the same room as Jude. you know what I'm saying I did not catch that shit I'm not saying I know Donald Trump saying

that this is what you need to defeat cove you know what I'm saying especially if you add a little bit of Ajax or ammonia to it I'm kidding it's a joke anyway let's move on Matt just wanted to throw it out there when you said COVID my ADHD hopped in and said that was a long time ago what was oh the COVID yeah all right listen on this day two years ago Mr. Scumper jumper competed at his final

pro tournaments. That's fucking crazy to think about. That tournament did not go well. I was going to say how'd that tournament go? That tournament did not go well. But that is crazy. Because I always like kind of, I don't really think about it too often,

but it'll always like come up in my brain. Like how long have I like actually been retired? So it's fucking crazy that I've been retired for two whole years already because it feels like it feels like it was yesterday. Does it feel like because Ian will talk about it and Damon will talk about it? people talk about it or like they retired and now like it's like everyone's they see everyone else like over here like they they retired back here and they're just like they started coasting like do you see the pro players now like that much are they that much better than you like are you

so far removed from it where it's like you're watching it and you're watching it as like a fan not like a competitor no i think i think the the gap is just knowledge gap like i i you kind of start to realize it more and more as you're retired. But even like Challenger's kids, they're scrimming every single day against that level of competition. So they just know the game better. They know and understand

the timing's better. They understand everything better. Search better. They just play way more against better people. Like we're playing rank play fucking running it down, not playing our lives, like kind of just autopiloting some of the time. Whereas they are continually

every single day in that that mode, like, I have to play my life here. I can't scam here. So it's like, I think I could still shoot very well, but in terms of like knowing the game while you're playing it, that game sense, they're way better.

I mean, they're professionals. They have to be. But I could still shoot. Can you still shoot? Yeah, he could shoot. The text you sent me? Yeah, he could shoot. No, no, you. He's asking, can you still shoot? No, no, no, I'm asking, can he still shoot? Because of the text that you sent me.

I mean, I was shooting back. No, no, not you. Because you'd send me a text about Seth. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, out of nowhere. I mean, there's a lot of people that I look at that I'm like, I don't think they're bad, but I'm like, I could do that.

Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, if I feel like that, then he could definitely. That's how you feel when you watch Shotsie play? You're like, no, no, no. Yeah, see, like shots. I'm like, I avoid him. So like Shotsie's different Like he's that kid is

He is fucking different Yeah What the fuck Just the way he moves on the map Yeah just is like his like The way he understands like the character is crazy It's like him Hydra Like those types

Those types of players Like him Hydra fucking Snoopy Like those just really mechanically fucking turn Abizis I mean simple Just all of those Those like sub players I watch them and I'm like

Fuck me dude Could I've done that in my prime I think so but now I'm almost 30 watching and hydrant it's crazy right while while jumping over something keeping their maintaining their Y Y Y Y and like movement shooting dip back reload Y WI I'm like what the like I I try I play ranked and I start off and I keep tapping my Y Y Y to see if I can get it to look like that and I'm like that's not there no bro I watch a slide YWI at the same time it's guy dude so i was i was taping up uh some some uh some artwork that i'm that i'm working on for

a for a show for a whatnot show and i had i had come across a video of like t2 p greatest moments bro i cannot believe the shit that you used to do period i was fucking mind blown and i had just come off of watching the one v i one v one every pro from shotsy so it went from shots he's one v one proing everyone which is fucking insane you should watch it to see like the level of fucking psychotic that this kid is like he would lay down and wait for his opponent to come to the hill and he'd be laying down in the doorway he'd kill him and then he'd be like all right now watch this i'm gonna break this thing i'm gonna break this this shower and they're gonna be going there i'm gonna kill him there and the way he's like oh he forgot that i laid here on the first

one and he comes and he's laying there and killing bro this guy's mentality on it and the way that he calls it out ahead of time is fucking insane but then i go back and look at what like from there went to the formal and this guy's shit i was fucking mind blown. I mean, yeah, it's just a different, it's just a different mode. Like, again. When you fucking like,

you know, what I'm talking about it? Like, you melee them? No. That's what's insane. But when you're in it. I couldn't believe it. When you're in it every single day,

I don't think people truly understand just how like your brain, you live, eat, breathe sleep, call of duty. So it's like, like now, again, I'll kind of reiterate,

but it's like, can shoot but that level of game sense and just overall feel for the game it's not nowhere close you also they also showed a clip where you were laughing at my skill so why was that there fucking editor in this fucking montage

like top 20 T2P play oh shit there's yeah this shit right here if you fast forward to the World War II when we had a lot of old men of optic fucking I appeared a lot of video so I was happy about that but yeah no it is was this the video you watched yeah this is the ex-ex yeah this is me well no this is me just being a fucking incredible streamer and it just reminds me of how good I could be if I do it

no go back you gotta go back and play from the beginning listen we're just cooking his shit watch watch seven watch this watch this watch this watch this watch this what he said watch this the pop daddy bro but listen listen listen Listen, listen, no, go back, Matt. Go back so they can hear it. They didn't hear it. Listen. Listen, listen.

Holy. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. No, listen, listen. That was my music. Hold on. Hold on.

Watch this. Oh, I didn't know I had two bullets. Bro. That last song that I play there is the last, the last scene of the last of the Mohicans. Great movie, by the way. Anyway, we got super distracted there, but I had to,

I almost texted you yesterday and be like, yo, you were fucking nasty. Nasty as they come. Thanks, man. For real, yo. Hey, dude, don't even say thank you. It's just a fact, you know.

What the, Thalk is Craven the Hunter. Yes, please. Yeah, I saw this. I've never even heard about it. I'm not going to lie, because I thought, I thought Craven was a League of Legends character. Isn't that the League of Legends character that you throw the thing and it comes back and you have to catch it and you have to throw it again? I've never played league.

So that's what I thought the movie was. Oh, I know this guy. Is this a Spider-Man guy? Nah. Is it? I didn't see this anywhere. That's what, that's on the original sheet. It said it's the lowest rated Spider-Man movie ever.

Is that a Spider-Man? Oh, he's from Spider-Man? Is that what it? Is it on his Reddit? Oh. Okay. So this actor is in a movie that was very Guy Ritchie-oriented. It's with Brad Pitt.

Go to his IMBD. That movie, you got to watch that. It's in the library. It's with him, Brad Pitt. It happens on a train. Five and a half isn't that bad. It's not bad. Oh, maybe not the, not lowest rated, but box office, like.

It just flopped? I think it just mega flopped. Right there. Go down, go down. Bullet train, bullet train, bullet train. Seth, watch this shit. It's so good. Yeah. And it's even better because that guy is a West Ham United fan in the movie. So I still have to watch the new Deadpool and Wolverine. I haven't watched it either. I bought that shit when I first came out. I was supposed to watch it on my flight to Tokyo. I started it last night. And then my mom's flight got delayed and they were like, they were shopping. They're like, we're coming back. Let's go to dinner. I literally just started the movie and I was like, fuck. Wait, is it? He's like, fuck, man. No, okay. Is it the worst ever

is a new Wolverine is open a weekend? Yeah, wait, the new Wolverine? No, this is Deadpool and Wolverine. Very Sony Spider-Man

universe. What is Madam Webb? I think I'd watch that. Oh, I heard Madam Webb wasn't great either. The Madam Web, dude. That actually sounds fire.

I never, that 11% on Rotten Tomatoes. That is not great. That's borderlands-esque. Yeah, borderlands. You know, this guy bought that shit? Yeah, I watched it. I mean, I should have rented it.

I liked it just because, just because I enjoy the borderlands universe. But could it have been better? Our boy. You didn't like it at all? Our boy Zachary Kinto didn't watch it. I just like borderlands. And it's a 0% on rotten tomatoes. Yeah, I just like borderlands.

That's our, our boy. Zachary Kinto didn't kill this one. No, there were a lot of like, a lot of loose ends. And it was just, it was all over the place. I do remember being starstruck when I saw Jamie Lee Curtis just walked by us. Yeah, that was fine. So talk about this update for the RICOchet anti-cheat TM trademark 2024. So this just came out, I believe.

I saw this morning on Twitter. But RICOchet, I think, is a myth at this point. I don't think RICO is even a thing. Placebo you're saying. I don't even think it's real. But they just came out with an update saying they were going to update. saying they were going to update the drivers, the kernel level drivers behind Rickashay.

But it's just, I think they're just trying to save face and act like they're trying to do something because I've been all of the war zone streamers that I've been watching and then obviously playing rank play all the time, we kind of know how bad cheating is. But then watching the war zone streamers, they're getting just absolutely just,

I don't know how they play. It's, because getting cheated on in Warzone is, it's impossible. In ranked it's one thing because you can respawn Well in ranked In ranked you have to have a new account

And you have to win 30 games To even play ranked It takes a while Warzone It's free to play You don't have to buy the game And you just spawn in With the cheats that are already on your PC

So it's just like Oh I got banned So somebody's like Relaunch somebody's like Oh shit I just got banned From being a fucking loser here All good I'm gonna be a loser over here Yeah

Yeah, you just make a new account. They do, they put these updates out and say, and they name how many accounts they ban, but there's still cheaters in the top 250. So it's like, I don't understand. No, dude. And then you read that, read that first paragraph. We understand the promise of glory and notoriety

from rank play leaderboards, or makes rank play an attractive target for cheaters. For this reason, our team have been especially focused on turning the tide to deliver the competitive arena our players seek. So that fucking first paragraph tells me that they are looking at the top 250 only and seeing who's cheating. Like, we're looking at the leaderboards?

What, you're going into the diamond leaderboards? There's no diamond leaderboard. Are you saying that Activision should ask for their money back? I don't know, but all I know is that... It's clearly not working. What do you mean Activision asked for their money back? Activision made this... No, Ricochet is a separate company, isn't it?

No, they made it. Oh, no, then it's not real then. That's what I'm saying. Actually, you know what? I don't know. Actually, if it's real or not, I'd take that back. Can you look that up first, Matt? I'm almost positive. Activision's ricochet is a most of...

Activision's ricochet, anti-cheet initiative is a multifaceted approach to combat cheating featuring service site tools that monitor analytics. Yeah, Activision. Okay. So Activision is the one. Activision Blizzard is the one that does that. So, safe to say that it isn't active. So, again, it could be a placebo.

It could be something that they're saying just to say that doesn't necessarily have anything. And it's clear to see because you still see cheaters in the top 250. They haven't been removed and they're still there. Just opening up their phone at the bar saying, look, baby, I'm fucking top 250. I'm going somewhere. You ever heard of these gamers? They're millionaires. That's where I'm going.

Come home with me. Fucking weirdos. You know? It's just sad because this game had so much potential. It's like this game is fun. The gunplay is good. The maps are eh. But the game itself is a fun, good game.

And then... Really good game. It's like every year there's just something. It's not ever, it's not something ever, it's the same thing every year. Oh no, yeah. It's the same shit. Everyone gets hype. Like cheating wasn't this bad last year during season one.

Dude, it was bad. During season one? During the later seasons it got pretty bad, but dude, I swear during season one, it was not this bad. I think during, yeah, during when we started like playing the old, that's why we're playing old man AIDS and shit. So I'm, I'm assuming, yeah, during the later part of the season it got worse. Maybe I just hate cheaters though. Like, I really freak out. It should.

I feel like you guys are. I just know. I can tell off one kill. I get kind of blessed because I can tell they're cheating off one kill against us. Everyone that plays with me, they're like, they don't cheat against you. Like you don't play the real experience. He's the only one. He's the only one.

But now we have ADZ who's been super clutch. He's symphony's mod. I think he's symphony's head mod. But he comes into the chat and he like now sits in my chat and I'm like, ADZ, we need help, Mayday. And he'll come in, look. and if they're cheating, they get ripped immediately. He's the man.

Does he work for Activision? I don't know, but I don't know if he works for Activision or he has a contact. But he has the button. He has the button. But he'll come in, look at the game for like three minutes. He's hacking himself. He hacks the mainframe, kicks them out. Gets them out of the game.

But they have to be very blatantly cheating. Yeah. Like it's got to be aim bot. Dude, there's a guy cheating. Wait, that's, okay. So time out. What do you say blatantly? like, okay, Wals isn't enough.

He also has to be aim-bodding. No, Wals isn't enough. Because how can you prove it? He could just have gotten a call out. Bro, this is what I'm saying about Shotsie. Yesterday, he was in the 1v1 that I was watching. And he used a ping in the 1v1. Like he was like behind a pillar and then he like,

live pink. He missed a live pink. He missed another live ping and he got it on the third one. And he's like, oh my God, I'm so, I'm so dirty for this. Like, I didn't even know that. I would have never considered it to do something like that. Yeah. Wait, you do that?

Everybody does that? No. No. That's insane to me. That's, anyway. Listen, I don't want to talk about this because it's bullshit. I don't want to talk about it because it's clearly them saying that we care without really caring. That's how get really giving a fuck.

So whatever. Ricochet, Rico bullshit more likely. It is. No, it actually is, bro. Yeah. It's not work. It's rough. It doesn't not work.

Yeah, I wish it worked because, again, I feel like this game. has promise. I wish it worked a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. Every 15 games I get one hacker, I'll take it. Yeah. Instead, it's every fucking, yeah, every third game.

Every third game. There's someone who's just like, wait, what's happening? You watch the kill camera a little bit. You're like, I get it. Oh, wait, he just hit all four bullets while I was jumping and diving away, I'm sure. Insane. And then they come in. the worst part is they come in a chat.

And they're like, no way you think I'm cheating. PC check me. I'm like, what? Yeah, ran Bob fuck job. I'm gonna waste my time and do that. Like,

that is the most obvious thing you could say. No, I'm not cheating. Just check my PC right now. Oh, you sure. I got you, bro.

Yeah, I'm sure. No, give me your address. Control, I'll delete some shit. Give me your address. That's what I was said.

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Going back to Arizona. Arizona? Yeah. Spending Christmas in the holidays in Arizona. I heard, I was getting my PC optimized last night. And the guy that was doing it was like, yo, my boy just actually ran into Hitch in Arizona and he called me freaking out. Oh shit, really?

Yeah, no, I got recognized that like an olive oil place. Really? Wait, what we were just getting olive oil? Like real fancy olive oil? You were getting olive oil? Yeah, yeah. Well, Alexis was. Oh, yeah.

And a guy came up to me and he was like, are you optic hitch? Like, yeah. Like, that was the most random place ever. Yeah, I got good taste in olive oil then. Yeah, right there. So shout out the green wall. Yo, Japan was. Like the first time we went to Japan

I only ran into maybe one person This time I ran like five people Really? Yeah Yeah yeah Because I was in Harajuku shopping Sneaker shopping You know what I'm saying And there was this one dude there

He's like Opticax I was like yeah He's like good The fuck fuck a time And took a picture with him And shit It was fucking dope

Yeah Oh yo Something to tell you about Japan When we go We gotta go to this taco spot called Tres Hermanos This Japanese dude lived in Mexico city

For like four years worked as a taco person as a taquero learned the fucking craft and then moves to Japan and bro when I went I had to try just because it springs the Japanese people the absolute gas that is a street taco

yeah but then you have to understand the culture of the Japanese if they are going to dedicate their if they're going to be dedicated to something they're going to dedicate their lives to it and they're going to be they're going to do the most the utmost triumest hard shit that they can do to make sure that the craft improves that's just a way of life over there

we can learn so much from that but this guy bro i swear to god i i i me live and jude sat down to eat and they were like one bite tacos they're like little street tacos so i order 15 and uh uh 15 yes it's five what 15 bites you take 15 bites on a pizza on a slice of pizza am i wrong yeah they were they were that small bro they were yeah they were bite-sized uh you you're seeing the clip right now, but I'm telling you it is... I kind of want to see the clip now. I want to see how big these things are. They had all flavors like chicken.

No, when we got there, they only had asada, carnitas, and not pastor, not... They didn't have the pastor, which is what I wanted to try. They had a third one. I don't remember what it was. Machaca, I think of what? Anyways, it's fucking incredible. The tomato sauce that you eat all around here, the green one, that you just eat and it's just like vinegar and it's so sour.

No, it was the perfect Mexican green tomato sauce. It was fire. Hell you. Anyway, sorry, I had to jump in again. My ADHD said, what's up? You love Japan, dude. You love it. You love it.

So, obviously, we're currently three and one in the standings. What would, you know, obviously I discuss, anytime that there's team movement, not only do I discuss it with people like JP who just walked by or karma in the team, but I also asked Scump what his thoughts are. I asked you what your thoughts are. As any of what his thoughts are on Huk as a pickup. And everybody unanimously said that is the best thing that we could have picked. Yeah, Seth was gassing Huck off camera like three weeks ago.

It was the only option. He was the only right option. Yeah, because you were gassing him before we even, there was even a talk. Yeah, no. Seth was saying crazy shit. And I was like, wait, wait. He was like, Hook might be the best player in the world. And I was like, whoa, what?

In eights. and eights, Kyler looked fucking different. Yeah, Kyler. His S&D, KD, his S&D, KD is like crazy, right? Yeah. No, Kyler was the only right option. I mean, he looks great. They went 2 and O with literally two days of practice.

So that speaks to itself. Yeah. I can't wait to see how good they look after a full month whenever they come back for the minor tournament and just see how good they look in response because the search and destroy looked amazing. Yeah. Respawn was a little shaky at times, but yeah, I can't wait to see how they look.

I haven't watched anything besides our games. Yeah. What's going on with Faze? I don't know what's going on with Faze. Faze got absolutely battered by Carolina, which we were like, what the fuck? They got 3-0. They almost reverse swept thieves, but they lost game five to Thieves. They lost 3-1 to Toronto.

So to be fair. Okay, they've been playing good. Yeah, Faze's first two games were very hard. They had Toronto and LAT who were both in the top four. That makes more sense. And then their third game, they go and play Carolina, who was four and O, which nobody saw coming. And then they go on and then they get their first win against Falcons in their last match,

which is kind of a gimmy right now. I can't lie, Falcons, no disrespect to those guys. But right now they're just not, they're not really putting up too good of a fight against some of these teams. But yeah, phase is. They did take a control. They took their only respawn win off of games. Who did? Falcons?

The Falcons. Dude, I'm telling you. Yeah, they beat them on Volt Control. It may not seem like they're making progress, but they are making progress. Are they going to be that good to compete at this level? Like, obviously everybody has their own opinions on that, but. Nick and I were talking about yesterday on the Flycast. Like, it's only a matter of time until they take their first series.

Dude, their kicks, their player for them kicks? Yeah. It's nasty. Bro. Yeah, he's good. Yeah. He could shoot. Yeah.

He's good. Exnid. Exnid was frying yesterday or two days ago. Yeah, they, I mean, they got some shooters for sure. They just got to put it together. But it's not easy to put it together, especially, you know, it's just, it feels like they were so far behind coming into it. So to put it together and be playing catch up like they are, it's going to be, it's going to be tough. They had visa issues, right?

They didn't get here till. Yeah, they didn't get here until really late. Yeah. It's going to be tough. tough. We'll see how they come back after this next month though. They got a month of practice against top teams. A month straight yeah until the minor tournament.

Has uh, has uh, uh, Gatoga been doing watch parties and shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they've been doing watch parties, he gets great viewership. Like, uh, does the does the chat get all French whatever they play? We played them.

Yeah, we played them and actually no. I was expecting like like, like them to be coming over talking shit. none of that. They don't do that. None of that. And apparently even for their players,

which is just, it's so like crazy to even like fathom, but apparently like priest, like, priest, like his, Caesar, all their players lens, whenever they do their post tweet, like, oh, lost, tough close series. It's not like, you guys fucking suck. It's like, don't even worry about it. Go get the next one.

Like they're super positive, which is kind of refreshing to see. The franchise has always had a really, really good call to be seen, obviously with the work of people like him and another. So yeah. Dude, they're so positive.

It's only a matter of time, I think, until Hydra plays on Gattaga's team. Right? Listen, I don't, I'm not saying it's colluding or whatever. I mean, look at the standing. If I was Nate Chatt, I come out of the personal pocket for that one. He did. No, but I'm saying like, if he even thought about it.

Well, maybe it's not Hydra that moves. Maybe it's Kataga that moves. You never thought about that? Huh? I don't know. just saying, I just think it would be crazy. Like the biggest French personality

is not going to get the biggest French player. Like, come on. They got Lenz who is... Oh, and Lens. Lens is not Hydra. Let's be honest. But he's French. He's a French subslayer, so...

You know, Lins is nasty too, though. But to be honest, too, gentlemates, their own four, but all of their matches have been like... Easy? No, just really close matches. They played some...

They've played some good talent. Yeah, they've played us. They've played thieves. Who else have they played? They played MN, I think. They've gone game five so many of the series. I don't think that record speaks to that team. So the minor is on online, right?

Yeah, yeah. Single elimination. Single a one single in my month. Yeah, see, like, look, they played us, LAT, Carolina, who's 4 and O, and then Minnesota who actually played thieves in their last match. And Minnesota looks like, they look solid. So that whole narrative that we had last year is pretty out the window, right? There's like top four teams are like...

Well, we thought... Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point. We thought thieves are going to be dominant, and then like after their few, very few matches, they're really good in respawn. Yeah. But if you take that S&D away from them,

you could make it work. You saw, I mean, Falcons could have won the search, and then they won the control, like... Yeah. Or not a... I said that... Backwards. Yeah, whatever.

But shit, it's not like last year. I'd tell you that much. Teams look way better. They play a lot better together. It's exciting. I like when it's like that. Yeah, like Miami's one and three. I think they've gone game five three times.

Like all of these teams, Boston is four for four going. They've gone game five every series. They're three and one. So it's like. Reach looks really good too. Breach is fire. Breach will clutch it. They go game five every time.

Yeah. Yeah, no clutch. So it's like, yeah, The league, the leagues, we're in for a good season, I think. As long as everyone stays on this path right now, I think we're in for a good competitive. And I mean, listen, we still, listen, we still have the opportunity for the league to be like,

hold my beer, let me fuck this up by balancing the weapon at this time or doing that. So as long as that stays, because this is a really good game. It is probably like one of the only games in the last three years where I have been, like felt guilty of not playing or wanting to play it, but I have other shit that I got to do.

But it is like the time. that I have played it has been like it feels good I don't know about the sniper I don't think the sniper will ever fear good to me but like all the weapons like SMGs fucking super good uh and all that so especially when I adjusted the the dead zone stuff like I understand now like

how that improved the I understand now I understand it now TJ's tweet right wow wow wait TJ had lost what 18 times straight to phase yeah and then they beat them and he tweeted I understand it now

Which is like some like meme going around It's lethal shooter You remember Gwen? He was like Chechee face we won I understand What you're fighting for? Like in the

You're undefeated So what's you're fighting for? Like top four He's like Well I know is we top four Yeah Yeah And I saw somebody tweet

Nobody beats T.J. Halley 19 times Yeah that shit had We were laughing at that as well Nobody beats him 19 in a row I love that That was so good let me see

Alright let's see Man Span 75 skateboarding For a service Of his own Bitcoin had 106 Well the the Bitcoin stuff I mean Let's not get into it

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They got a influencer by I don't Wait, what you said? No, I am. He was like, should I put something in the bunk? I was like, now I am. They got an influencer behind us. No, shit, no.

No, don't put anything in the bonk. Don't put anything in too buck. Toa, Corey. Don't do it. Oh, shit, here we go bonk. What the fuck is bonk? Here we go, bonk, a little rally. What does all this shit mean?

It's growing. That's funny. Oh, you caught that one early, Sal. Huh? Hell no. If I was in that early, I'd be fucking in Monaco right now on a yacht. Alone? Alone? What's your boys? Anyone can come. Kid me? If they can afford to come?

He's just fucking flights? Anyone can come. No, he's like, anyone can come if they can pay their own flights and they can afford to come to hang out. Love that. So is Hawk to a girl going to jail? Someone talks to me. I don't know. Listen, I haven't kept up with it. I, misguided young people that happen,

that this life happens to too fast. No, she got famous to jail in six months. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if she's going to jail. I don't know if she's actually going to jail. I don't know if she's going to jail. But like, how did they not, how did she or anybody around her friends or people that aren't managing her say,

don't do that shit? Yeah. Like she could have, she definitely had better options. You already hit the last. You already hit the last. lottery. What the fuck are we doing? Yeah. You got famous for saying you're going to spit on it. Greed will imprison us all. What are you doing?

She could have sold classes. Anything. She could have sold, you know, way, what? What? You could have sold. Yeah. First you hawk. Then you too. Tuah. Yo, who were they called? Oh, hook. Hoot Tuwa. That show was crazy. Oh, yeah. That show was funny. Yeah. Hook Tuwa. Oh, man. I got to grow up.

You want to talk about this. We just found out BusFet strikes a deal. Where where? To sell high, all the with the bottoms. Busfeed who own, I mean, I guess Busfeed used to own complex and then complex sold to network. Then network or BuzzFeed or the acquired new bus feed, ignore everything that I just said. Hot ones as a show just got sold for 82.5 million. That's crazy.

That means that this podcast. that means that this podcast if we do the right thing we can sell for two million we can sell for 82.3 million guys listen they were getting a hundred ms of video

100 million views of video no no no they were not listen uh congratulations to them that's uh that's obviously always super dope but they're i think thank god my man sean evans got fucking paid i don't know about that I think he had ownership in it No, listen

He got $8 million I'm almost pop Whatever he whatever it is that he got It isn't enough It's definitely not enough And I'm glad that they're going into Like their own And they're gonna expand in talent acquisition

They're gonna spend in a whole bunch of other areas To do like a different Fuck They're building a new complex They're building a new optic They're building a new face They're building a new thing It looks like the sale to a group

That includes the show's host Sean Evans It sounds like they sold it to him I'm telling you, he has ownership in it. I watched a podcast with him and he almost left. He almost left fucking hot ones. Well, no, it sounds like they bought it from BuzzFeed. Unless I'm tweaking the sale to a group that includes the show's host.

I'm going to give you a scenario that can answer that question for you. Let's say he had a three-year contract that was $3 million. When he says that they sold it to him, he probably said, hey, that guaranteed contract that I got, I'll let you keep the two-mill. And that's his involvement. That's how it could have happened. So there's a million ways that this business transaction is going to happen. But he, as you see there, is part of the ownership group that's going in there. So although he himself may not be putting money up,

he is going to be putting up sweat equity, which means that he may not be getting paid anything extraordinary. What does it mean will allow BuzzFeed to pay down tens of millions of dollars in debt? Well, BuzzFeed, BusFeed, who was owned by, how do I explain this? Okay, let's say, for example, there we go. People get investments and some of that investment is sometimes debt.

Okay, so they'll go out to a private home office. What? You're reading it? Read it out loud then. First we, Hot ones, First We Feast, or BuzzFeed picked up hot ones in First We Feast through a 2021 acquisition of Complex Network for a total price tag of 200.

and 94 million. What the, I didn't even know that. Why? It's just everywhere. What the fuck? People just make up fake money, man. That is larger than it's total.

Just making shit up. What do you mean? What do you mean? 294 million? Shut up. Okay. I can give it to you super easy. Let's say that Complex as a network

with the Complex Sneaker podcast, which is obviously their most successful show next to, of course, Joe Lapuma's Sneaker Shot happen, but let's say as a whole on a yearly basis that we're bringing in $30 million, right? That's how much 30? Let's say they're spending $29 million to make it all happen. You're positive a million.

But that's still $30 million that that company can make. If somebody came to buy it from you, they're not just going to buy for 30 because at that point, you're like, well, I make 30. You might as well just do it. They're going to be like, okay, well, we'll give you two years worth of the value of this company, which is $60 million. This is a 10x in theory at $294. So they were making 29.4 mil if it was a 10x multiplier. So you multiply the amount that you make at the end of the year times 10 because if they're going to buy you out of something,

might as well make it 10 years worth because you're going to, you know what I'm saying? That's how that math works. That's fucking great. And it goes from 4x, 2x all the way to 16x as some of this esports fucking orcs were going for. the token to his evidence. According to the company BuzzFeed will now will now operate with a cash balance that is larger

than the total outstanding debt as the deal allows it to reduce its outstanding debt to 30 million by 88.8 million. You so you see what? Yeah, yeah. I'm starting to understand it. Yeah. At the end of the day, I hope my man Sean got fucking paid. He's the best interviewer.

He's the best interviewer of all time. Damn. I don't know about that. Of all time. I don't know about that. Andy's doing it with hot shit in his mouth. Yeah, he's doing a hot shit in his mouth. Hell yeah.

The show is not a gimmick show. It is just something that allows Sean to be the best. He's better than Howard Stern. He's better than fucking Nordwar. Like he is the best, I promise you. Damn. That's high praise from Davis. That's high praise from Davis and D's because I think you're the best interviewer in Optic.

I will say, however, Well, why do people get all confused when I get props? When I get props to. I didn't say anything. Your eyes said it all. You're screaming with your eyes. What? I just looked at him.

Just look at it. I also, listen, I just look at it. I get props for props to do all the time. Listen, I'm happy that they're doing that. I'm happy that some of the, again, you know, these are, all of these things that are happening in the, new entertainment ecosystem all come from the same

opportunistic situation that we had in 2016, 2017, 2017, 2018, 2019 where there was just money being dumped everywhere because everybody wanted to have the new sports center, the new NBC, the new Cowboys, the new, you know what I'm saying?

So things like these happen. And they are worth that. They're just worth like that in future money. That one's funny. Shroud looked at his bank account the middle of a Marvel rivals game to calm down. Boy.

Yeah, let's look at his bankers in the middle of Marvel rivals game to calm down. Why? That would stress you out more? What? No, because he, no. I'm actually getting a little upset. Oh, I'm dead.

How do I reset this mentally? You just look at your bank account. Just look at your bank account, quick. Okay, quick, look at my bank account. Okay, so it was a suggestion from someone else. Look at my bag of cow Okay Locked in

I'm locked in He goes out of five pieces of shit He immediately gets Oh my god Oh shit Dude He actually did lock in That's fucking hilarious

Love you reset I wonder what his account looks like Wait Seth are you playing this at all? Mentally This no I haven't played it Really? But everyone says it's hell of good I know I've been watching Toosh play it like every night

Really? Yeah everyone's playing it It's Overwatch but Marvel right Yeah I've never watched Overwatch though I've no idea about it either Really? But like Tush plays this little like shark And he like

It's a healer but he like swims on the ground And then he plays a shark in this Yeah and then he'll like spit water At his teammates like Oh, that's cool. And Alexis was like, yo, I like that shark.

And I was like, all right, let's watch this. But so then we're trying to figure out who. Yes, this guy, Jeff. Then we try to figure out. And then I was like,

who the hell is Jeff? Is that from a suicide squad? No, we looked it up. It was a, it's a marvel. Yo, shut up.

It was a Marvel. It was a Marvel. It was a Marvel comic that only is released online. And it started in 2021. He's cute. He's a fucking cute guy. He's cute. Dude, I won't lie.

But like the Jeff stock because of this game has gone up crazy. Hell yeah. I want to look at the comic now. I will say that every single time that I used to ask people on my very famous podcast, the 10th second podcast, was if you could shrink any animal in the animal kingdom to have as a pet, what would you choose? I always said the fucking gray white. What? Really? A tiger.

A tiger? An elephant? Like a fucking chihuahua-sized elephant? Debbie hard. Yeah. Yeah, but they don't have fur. They're not like cuddling. No.

They're just like oily little. I know, but they're. It's like an oily little ball. It's like a, really like a sack. I was. Like a sack. A sack of what? What elephants look like a fucking ball sack.

Yeah, no. It's like an oily little just gray sack. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, with that, we're going to see you guys next week. At the same time at the same bad channel. Thank you so much for tuning in. Shout out to our sponsor. Shopify.

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