OpTic Podcast - BEHIND THE SCENES CDL DRAMA | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 153

Episode Date: December 14, 2023

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Dude, it's weird. There's like a, you ever heard of Call to the Void? Like, you just have like crazy thoughts. Yes. There's times where like you're diffusing and you're like, what about like going to do? Yeah. Oh, God. I always think about it.

What if I just like that's an idiot? Party, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to episode 153 of the Optic podcast. Brought to you by Chop 5 Built Center and Texas Day Brazil. Yeah. It's been a while since I've been to Texas of Brazil. I need to go back. You know why?

Because it's so good. We used to go every single day in Illinois. We used to. Not every single day. But we used to go once a week at least. So far, the beans on top of the rice and then those jalapidia. That's enough. No one cares about the beans on the rice at Texas Day Brazil.

Everyone does. What? It's not basic at all. Beans and rice. Whatever that dessert is. That's what the life is made up. You just with the cookie at the bottom? You get some shrimp.

The cream? Yeah, the pecan. What is that called? Cream? Yeah, what was that dessert? Or the banana one? Zinn said it wasn't that. It's like when you, at the bottom there's like a, like some kind of like cookie or like crumble.

The cheesecake crust. Yeah, like what, what's dessert is that? We had them here for the watch party. Cremble red. Cremble red. It is? Cremble red. It's like ice on the top.

Like you hit it's like sugar. Hit it and it cracks. Yeah, you, you, you. And then there's like pudding in it. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know. There was nothing I hit it. It was.

It was. It was. I mean, I don't fucking know. Zinn said it wasn't. He said it wasn't. He said, dude, no. no. Zinn-R-N-N-W-N-W.

Yeah, exactly. That's what I was saying. It was a cheesecake thing? It was just like a little... It was like a little cup, a spoon. You just... If you guys are... If you guys know what it is, put it in the

in the comment section below. You know what I had the other... Two weeks ago? I never get this ever, and I don't know why, but... Is was at Billy Can-Can like two weeks ago, and I was like, bring me back something.

Brought back Bananas Foster. and it was insane Oh fucking good The Billy Can Can in particular Is fucking fire I never like I would never get that Like if I were to go there and like be eating there I would never get that

No But I looked at there was only three desserts All right We order all three for idiots It's on the final episode Idiot's the Damn that does look amazing Yeah

Yeah No let's not play the trailer again But Super dope trailer just came out Idiot season two coming to Optic Nation first week of January it will not be on my channel

until the third week of January So you can tell the story I don't tell the story Huh Seth got demonetized We'll tell the story Some other time Because something needs to happen

In order for the story to be better Okay So ignore what I just said Wait what the fuck I just got distracted About face antennas frustrated by the water physics That gets science lessons from developer

All right doesn't matter I do want to see this so badly. I want to see it so badly. But the first weekend of the CDL happened. Obviously, we had a lot of behind-the-scenes drama that was going on as this thing was sort of happening. Oh, yeah. We can talk.

Started day two. Day one was smooth. Day two was a shit show at the start. I was, dude, I was just fired up on. Because people are coming in my chat, just trying to start. shit and I was like, dude, you are so fucking weird. Like, like, my brain, like, sometimes what I want to say was, like, coming out. Like, dude, you're just weird.

Let me get some context. I was just like, people just, like, trying to start shit. Because, like, Tommy, Tommy went on and basically, like, revealed everything. Well, Nick doesn't have. So basically, like. Have you been sleeping for the last, like? I mean, I don't want to, like. I woke up about 30 minutes ago.

But basically, the CDL. After a 16 hour. Yeah. But basically the CDL on Saturday told us that we cannot stream on Twitch. Oh, and you also can't review. And we can't review any clips. That one's bogus. So like Shopsie, I was watching Ant Stream last night,

and he wanted to go back and watch their match on stream. And his whole chat was like, you can't. And he was like, I can't, should I start my stream on YouTube? Because you can't watch, you can't watch rebroadcast. You can't watch anything in the CDL back. And so that came out on Saturday, and I got ambushed. I didn't think Tom was going to get on stream and just start, like, telling you all? You just weren't going to talk about it?

I turned the stream on, and everyone was just freaking the fuck out. And I just got out of my Uber. Like, I was late. I ran up here. I was on the phone all morning with Tom, with Bill, like, with everybody. And I just got ambushed. And I was, I just got so, like, I was just tight. Did you know before?

Or what? You just didn't want to, like, talk about it? You didn't want it to be out. And I didn't really want to talk about it because I wanted to like, you know, smooth everything over. But you just learned Saturday morning? Yeah. So like literally right before the dream. So I wanted to like like wait and present it in a way that I wanted to and I kind of just got hit with it.

And then when you get hit with it, then you got to talk about it and you don't like think about what you're going to say. And I was just, I was the feelings spoke. The thing of the fact of the matter is this. Okay. It wasn't until when two days before the league started that they told everybody that it was going to be exclusive on Twitch? Yeah. Well, the day before they tried. tried to get in contact with us.

Literally 10 minutes before we went live. Yeah, that's hilarious. We obviously... 10 minutes before we went live. They wanted to call me. And I was like, hilarious. I was like, what?

We are doing our final checks. We're about to go live. It's opening day. Yeah. I don't know. It was very disappointing. It's just move after move. It's just disappointment after disappointment.

And it's not for the betterment of the league. It's not for the betterment of the space. It's not for the best. It's just nonsensical shit. Because even when they explain, explain it, they still don't show you everything. They're like, hey, this is what we're doing. I'm like, okay, well, can you give us details?

I was like, whoa, oh, uh, uh, uh, so obviously I have my own gripes. I have my own bones to pick. But then, but then a good thing came out of it. It's on there. We're just going to jump to it now because it's a good segue. But we did the breakdown times the flank, which a lot of people have wanted for a long time. So we finally did a collab with Tom and Ben and then me and Zinn. We just shot the shit for probably like an hour.

hour and 15 minutes about the matches, completely left the drama out of it, which... Which is good. Yeah, we just, you know, we chopped it up about the matches, and people really liked it. And I think, you know, if all of this wouldn't have happened, I don't think it would have happened this weekend. It probably would have happened down the line,

but it was just a good coming together of, you know, two, you know, of the biggest shows in Call of Duty just coming together. You know, when we... Unity, unity. Unity. The thing is this, right? And I got to choose my words very carefully here. It's not easy, man.

It's not easy. Now imagine being live, 20,000 viewers. Free the flank. I was like, dude, what is going on? And then I got mad. I was like, what do you mean, free the flank? The breakdown is in the exact same boat as the flank. So, like, I just got ambush, bro.

Yeah. I got fucking ambush. One, I agree with you. And when someone's being stupid, or moronic, you have to let them know just in case they aren't self-aware. So when somebody's acting like a fucking moron on stream, you have to address it. You have to address it. You'll be like, hey, man, you're being really fucking stupid.

And it's crazy to me because my brain could never think the way that your brain does. So it's just in case you didn't know, you're a fucking moron. Yeah, and a couple of those were coming out from me. I usually keep them in, like, because obviously, like, dude, if you're watching a streamer and you say something stupid, they read it. And just know, they're thinking, holy shit, that was so stupid. But they're not going to say it. But they're not going to say it because they try to be nice.

I mean, I try to be cordial and nice to everybody. I want to find out, like, who is that guy, find his Facebook, check his family. Just like go to a deep dive on a fucking hater. Well, I had one of those. Like, I got it. Who is this guy? I have, I have one of those in which someone on a social media platform. Okay.

I'm going to tell you which one. because it doesn't matter. Somebody was getting mad at me personally because they thought that that Optic got out of Rocket League so that I can personally put that money towards the sidekicks. Oh, so yeah, that's just what?

Like, it's just... So I'm like, you know what? Maybe he doesn't understand the way of it. So I'm not mad at the dude or, but it's like, it's like, tell us the truth. Is that why you did it? It's like, there needs to be an investigation. as to why Optic got out of Rockin League.

Went from video game car soccer to indoor soccer. Yeah. But, you know, obviously, like, I have another investment in another soccer minor league soccer team in London. We went to the sidekicks, what, a year, probably a year and a half ago? Yeah. Like, whenever, yeah, we, that's been a thing for. Yeah, it's been a thing for a while. A while.

We just announced it now, but it's, you know, regardless of the matter, it was, it was, You know, situations like that, I'm like, I kind of want to sit down and I'm going to be like, hey, man, like, I don't even see how you came to that. Yeah, I know what you mean. So, yeah. So look, I think, so where I was going earlier when I said that I needed to choose my words carefully is this. We are constantly told from the beginning of time when we were building this community without any help from Activision at all, right? Because everybody knows that it wasn't until Black Ups 1 when David Vonnerhardt started to come around. But think about it, right?

Black Ups 1 was what, right? We had Call 2, Call 3 4, World at War, Modern War II, then Black Ups 1? Okay? Think about that. Five years of building this community without any help from Activision, right?

This is just a community-built thing, right? We've been told since then that e-sports in Call of Duty is so insignificant that they can't allocate more resources to it. Right? So that was five years. So my thought back then was like, okay, well, then why are you putting so many restrictions on this? Let the community be what it is.

If it's insignificant from a bottom line standpoint to you, then it doesn't matter, really. So you should let us do what we need to do. Let us pay for what we need to pay for and let us run the community as we run. The problem now, in my opinion, right, is that, now mind you, that's Black Ops 1. When did the league start? So we have Black Ups 1. What came after Black Ups 1? Modern Warfare 3, then Black Ops 2, then Black Ops 2, then.

Ghosts? Ghosts then. You know what I'm saying? AW? Yeah, so you get to where I'm going, right? Was it AW after ghost? You get to where I'm going. So there was an additional several years in which there was a little bit of developer help,

and then the league started. And then that's when we put in more money than we were putting in before for this thing. And for me, it's like, I understand what Activision is doing. But if it's so insignificant, then why not let us do what we got to do? we got to do but we're not asking for any like we we've paid for this third party event throwers paid for all this thing they paid for flights on and we built this community call of duty e-sports is our shit we may not have the IP ownership but we built this thing without the help of anyone okay so when when people who are new to the space they come in and

try to sort of give their opinions and thoughts on this thing Like, they're discounting 10 years, a decade worth of work from us building what we're building. Right. So when we're going back and forth on this thing and saying, it's like, well, it doesn't make any money, then fuck it. Then let us do what we're going to do. Why take it away from Twitch? Like, what is the point there? Like, I literally see.

And then they can't say it's like, well, the money that we're getting from YouTube is going to help this because it doesn't in the end. Right? It's not like that. It does not work like that. So when, you know, we got contacted. I mean, think about the way that it got released also, right? Like, they waited until the very last possible second. Ten minutes before we were about...

Think about that. Think about that. Ten minutes before we were about to hit the button, I got a text. Think about that. What the fuck? And then Tom called me. And then I was like, what the fuck is going on? And this was on Friday.

Yeah. So this was the day before. Yeah. Tom went on stream, told everything. He's like, what are you going to do? And then he's like, what are you going to do? Yeah. And then he's like, all right, fuck it.

Here I go too. Well, it's like, it's like what, so 10 minutes before we're supposed to fucking send out a tweet to everyone that, to the green wall and say, hey, we're here. Like, hey, we're moving. It made no sense. It put us in a spot to where we had to choose between trying to figure something out with what they call themselves as partners. Or do we abide by the people that have been supporting us for over a decade? So we're like, dude, let's just, let's just figure it out. Let's just go, let's do the show, and then we'll talk.

But it has just turned into so much more that it's just like, it's so discouraging, man. Like, just when you think, like it just, it's just like a never ending, like what else is going to happen. So it's, it's disappointing. Anyway, season two has begun. Hey, the first weekend went well, though. All things, all things considered. I mean, we. Great matches.

Great matches. Great matches. I mean, the matches were so much fun to watch. We saw like four almost reversed or four or five almost reverse sweeps in the first weekend. Like I think we're in for a pretty good and competitive year of COD despite it being on YouTube. But, yeah, I mean, YouTube viewership was great. So, shouts out to everybody that came out, showed love. I mean, we had like 65 to 70,000 for certain matches across YouTube and Twitch.

And then we didn't get, you didn't get drops, right? None of you got drops? No, we didn't get drops. But we had drops last year? Yeah, they're not giving us drop. Well, that's what I'm saying. Did anyone have drops? That is what, that's like.

Mainstream did I'm pretty sure. It's like, that's what I'm hearing. I'm pretty sure the mainstream. That's what I'm saying. It's like, what? I don't know. What does it look like to you? It's not shady, but it's just like, what the?

I just don't. That's what I say. Like in my mind, I'm like, if I'm someone that works there, I'm like, I'm I'm giving scump and Zuma special privileges. Anything, I'm like trying to work with them. so they can continue to do their thing. Yeah, I'm trying to deride them. Like, that's where the disconnect happens.

I don't understand it. If I'm a higher up, I'm like, bro, these are our guys. Do you think they use our numbers when they're pitching shit? Yeah. See, that's what's crazy to me. Yes. They're using our numbers. They're throwing your numbers out like crazy.

This is the worst. You know how many deals they got because of you kid? No, listen, listen. This is what, this is what. You ain't seeing shit. Yo, they, they're, nothing. It's like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, get to a point to where like you have to you have to have to have a come to Jesus moment or whatever

God you believe in where you have to touch yourself huh huh nothing I thought you said you have to touch yourself what did you actually say you have to ask yourself I thought you said you have to touch yourself and then you took a boss continue on I'm still on what you believe in uh depends on what you believe regardless of the fact you know what else man it's like none of this none of these fucking conversations that we have fucking matter so let's move on first week on cdl optic goes one and one the first the first match of the weekend was a good one we go down to oh new york yeah to new york but then something happened something magical happens the boys get in a groove and they then bring it all the way back to a game three round of a game five round they remembered maniac

g gc yes it is possible they were inspired they were inspired they were inspired This round 11. I was in the huddle. Do we have the ice? Dude, I was in the huddle. You needed that shit, huh? Listen. Listen.

I needed that for life. Still bringing it up. Yo, you know how they... You know how they take a break right after game two? Yeah. They weren't a huddle. It was Dashie, Kenny, Shotsie, Prad, JP, and Karma. And karma brings out his phone.

Ooh. And he says, look at what Maniac did. It's just a picture of me. I thought that was about to be serious. You guys can do it too. It was serious. It was serious. They were inspired. It's so annoying seeing them lose fucking round 11.

Oh, man. And then. Every search they played. That wasn't the first one, was it? Every search they've played so far. They've gone round 11. Yeah, they lost both round 11th at series, right? Yep.

Yeah. Ah, dude, it's so like. They're three for three. How do you? I don't know if I've asked this before, but as a competitor, say you were on that team and you lost game two, game five both has some of these round 11 like are you think is it fucking with you at night yeah yeah what if i hit underground we win the series yeah like round 11 is it all you can think about is

the round 11 no there's a lot of other shit that goes into a series but like that definitely is it's like it's one round it's one round it just calls me like mental it's just so stressful even when you win you're like nice let's go good shit oh you need like a little bit Come on. Jesus, man. I'm sick of this. How do you all doing? How does it always end up here?

Like, we need to get better at search. Then your teammate scams and you're the one and then you die and people blame you. And it's like, oh, you motherfucker. Yeah, like he died, caused me to die. Yeah, round 11 is, it's a different beast. It is so easy because I noticed when I was sitting there watching, like, I think it was maybe on like Preds screen. I think he maybe got a kill and then like got a little.

little aggressive and I'm like no just fucking not but it's so easy on the terminal you're talking about the terminal I can't remember but I just remember like it was either Predd or shots he else like they got two kills and then Pred was pushing got to the golf cart in my head I'm like two guys and like when by the someone saw the two guys right they call him out pred was close he's one shot pred hops up goes to shoot him but the motherfucker laid down and his teammate ran they like switched so Fred shot the guy. It was one shot. And then the guy killed him.

That's just some called duty shit. Yeah, that's some called duty shit. But it's like when I'm watching, what? What? But when I'm watching, I'm like, just stay alive. Fucking. Literally don't do anything. Yeah.

But like, obviously it's because I'm seeing the arrows or whatever of the other team. So I'm like, just don't fucking move. But it's like they'll just do a little something. Not saying they scammed or anything. Like, obviously it's way different with the comms and stuff in game. But it's so much. You think you had, and that's why the chat is toxic at times, because like from an outsider, obviously you can see everything. Like, do you think you have the answers?

But it's like, you have no idea when it's actually like being in that game. Yeah. In that situation, the comps that you heard, so they might be assuming like he could be wrapping our back base, but he really doesn't. So he's just like, it's just totally different. It's a, just think about the amount of information that you have just by even looking through walls, right? Like you your brain can't understand how they don't know that they're there because you see it. I always try to like point that out when someone in chat like I don't do it all the time because if I did do it all the time, that's all I'd fucking say. Because people in chat think they know better than the pros sometimes.

But I'm like, dude, like it's easy to say that he just scale. Like I think people are saying Clay scammed. And I was like, you know how easy it is to sit there and say he scam when you can see through the wall? Yeah. Like he's got like callouts in his ear. fucking grenades going off and shit. Like it's, it's,

your mind's playing tricks. Is he still there? Did he move? Did I miss it? Because I did look up at the screen. There's so many things. So yeah, like I,

aside from that, I love the way that the game is playing. Personally, I love the fact that is going round 11. I mean, that's excitement. That is something that, like, gets your heart pumping.

Oh, yeah. I feel bad for the players, but at the same time, I'm like, I love, I love it. Just crazy out. Often it happens. Yeah.

And then, I mean, think about, think about hard points, too. bro if I'm at an event has there been a has there been a worlds where it goes last map round 11 um even even if it's not world it's just a regular event like if i'm on main stage round up no fucking seth in phase when set and set and set versus uh selium it was six four last no but that's not that wasn't chance it was six no but he said okay maybe not chance just

regardless at an event yeah it's five five five five heaven's all the time must be Every event. I don't know. Every event goes with their first five. That S&D just stresses me out playing like casually for fun. What is the most legendary game five round 11 play? Three piece? Yeah.

Yeah. Aftermat three piece? Said I'm packing. Oh yeah. That's the craziest clip. Yo, that was crazy. Wait, can we watch that? That was crazy.

I had two kills up until that point. I'm tweaking. I'm like, holy shit, I'm costing. It's round 11. I'm like, holy fuck. And then I just pop a three piece? that was probably that gotta be the number one of clip

I stood up and they're literally right in front of me and I was just screaming at them he got out what's the dude's the dude too quick too quick too quick sick no that shit was that shit was hard but there's probably other like there's probably other really good plays that we're just not

thinking about yeah I think the the most memorable one for me is the is the salium the UV salium where you slide into that and then just that's also got him you run to the bomb you present you get up you're like ah

battee was tweaking he was like yo defuse make sure you diffuse he's like don't rip your wire out yeah I'm staying up like that too while I'm defusing I'm just standing looking at the crowd because sometimes like people be diffusing then you'll start seeing like

yeah umps or something and I'm like if I'm there I'm saying hard as fuck people create a shell around you and shit like like uh in 300.

Dude, it's weird. There's like, you ever heard of Call to the Void? Like, you just have like crazy thoughts. Yes. Um, there's times where like, you're diffusing and you're like,

what about like going to do? Yeah. You thought about that. Oh, God. I always think about like, what if I just like that's an idiot? One of the,

one of my favorite ones is like, these two dudes are playing a two B two is round 11 fucking game winner. They fucking kill both of them. And then the guy, the teammate sees his boy diffusing and he's looking at him right with his with his aimer. He's like, Fuck, yeah.

Throws his controller. When he throws the controller, the grenade bumper hits the keyboard. This happened? And he throws a fucking grenade at him and kills him. This happened? Yeah, it's on video. It's fucking one of the best. Yeah, so he's playing.

He's like, fuck yeah, let's go. Throw his controller like, yeah. And then when he threw the controller, the grenade button, think, and then he, you'll see his character. And then someone's just diffusing and just, you just hear the name. Yeah. I don't know if it was around 11, but that show was fucking great. I mean, I think something like that happened. like,

or was that at a cot event? Oh, I was like a wager or something. That happened at a cod event. Something like that happened at a Gears event. Well, you can't wall bang net attached was... Yeah, like that,

that still is around. Like you wallbang someone, people still say that. Yeah. If someone killed their teammate round 11 like that, it would never be forgotten. It's like the Summit Molly,

1G, like shit like that. Like, that just never gets forgotten. Yeah. Yeah, I think at a Gears event, something like that, like that happened where they I forget how gears even works but this was at an event and the team down the guy but like didn't finish him or something like that I don't know like how it works

but like down the guy they got up they celebrated and dude like got got up revived or some shit and then just like wipe the team and then they won I think it was for like a big it was like a big important like they thought they won because they like downed him I forget what the fuck I forget how gear how gears I don't don't know. I forget how gears even works, but it was like something like that where like they thought they won, they got up start cheering, but then next thing they see is a guy on the other team like just piecing them when they're all just standing up. Wait, what the, what the, that's a 1v1? You have to sit back down. You're in the 1 v1.

Oh my God, it's a different person. Imagine I just made all of that up. I swear it's, it's in my brain for a reason, so it has to, something like that has to. Oh, man. Uh-oh, here is. Success Clutch. This is the champs against Cole. Yeah, shit, one. What's this map called? Five. Aftermath.

Aftermath. Are you nervous or are you just locked? I don't remember. Probably fucking bit of both. You say you were tweaking just now. I mean, this is around 11 to go home a chance. I fucking hate this area, too. It was literally elimination.

This area always reminds me of Battle Toads. When you're on the bike. What a vet plant by TP though? Oh, yeah. When that bomb went down, I was like, fuck. Now we got to break this shit? No, I don't remember. I don't know if someone scams. Oh, really?

Oh, yeah, BP T-P. But here is. Grim trades one. Here's the kid. No, this isn't me yet. Willie? I'm behind him. One, two, three.

Bang. It didn't show it. No, there it is. But it shows in the kill cam after. Yeah, I had two kills up into that point. I was like, holy shit, I'm costing. It's hard not to think about kills. Even if it's like you literally-

Got him. Got his ass. It's so hard not to think about kills in search. Even if like you know you're just like it's unlucky and nothing's going your way. But when it gets into the later rounds, you are thinking like, I got to get a fucking kill. No, that round was unlucky, though. Or that map. That map, like, is so, because people were going to the bomb site inside and it was so dark in there.

Like, you couldn't see shit. So what is this? Optic Place Seattle? Seattle. That's, Seattle's a good one. Tyler. Ender. And Ray.

And Ray. Oh. Oh. Wait is that. This Friday? In Seattle's good. And Seattle's good. And Seattle's fucking.

Bro, Ily is fucking gross, man. That's this Friday. Damn. Gross. I can't wait for that match, bro. It's going to be so fucking hype. And you know I'm going to be hyping that shit up. Yeah.

Ray, Ender. Kyler. I mean, that's, that is. For revenge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's going to be, you know, that's going to go fucking. Can't hype them up too much. No, of course not.

No, they're coming in already fired out. Our boys fighting. Well, I mean, like. Our boys are, I mean, I mean, Fred against Seattle. They're going to be hyped to. They're going to be hyped to. Yeah. They're going to be hyped too.

even think about that. So I think, I think, it's a good Macs? It's an interesting one. It's definitely, listen, Friday, this Friday, be sure to be there. All right. Live, spectating with us.

Yeah, that one's going to be lit. I mean, even L.A. Boston, that's a good series as well. Friday's got some, and Miami too, they fucking, Miami kind of, Miami slammed Carolina, 3-0. And then Vegas just got reversed swept by Carolina. So Miami has a chance to start too.

fucking the Miami Heretics has a massive I think personally look I personally think that the league should have allowed them to be Madrid or all of Spain I just want to I just I'm sorry to cut you off

but this is very important I just received a text it is finalized I have to shave my mustache tonight damn why never mind because I got something tomorrow that I'm doing but I got to shave my stash

tonight worth it fuck You don't think you look good? No, it's like a staple now. I put beard oil on it today. Really? Can you tell?

For the first time? No, I've been doing it like the past couple days. I definitely has some shine to it. Yeah, it's got a little, I put beard oil on it today. My last haircut I thought about getting a stash. Yeah. Just a stash? Then I'd just be copying, right?

All right, so just to finish that out. I didn't invent the mustache. The Spaniards obviously have a lot to prove, right? They've been out of the circuit for a very, very long time. And Spain has always been like, you know what I'm saying? like legit, a big fan of those boys so I'm glad that they turned up the way

that they did. I do wish that they would have been whatever, pick the city in Spain that they should have been. They should not be Miami Heretics and the league should have allowed for that to be. I mean, I don't know if, you know what? I'm talking shit right here because I don't know if they didn't even want that. Yeah. But I don't see why they wouldn't know. I'm going to hit up my boy. See what a see what the deal was there. Are they all

new players? No, no, no, no, no. My man, lucky was at the hex quarters. With his dad, his dad's a bass fisher. Who's on that team real quick? Bring it up at. Vickle, medals, lucky, and journey. Journey. All of them.

All of them, super old school. Vickle played in the league last year. None of the other three days. But they have played in the past. Just three challengers? Vickle and three challengers? No, I mean, I wouldn't even consider them challenges because they used to be like, they used to be like a top eight pro team.

Yeah. Yeah. But that was in B-O-4. Oh, damn. Yeah. So they, MW 2019. I think one or one of them might have been, one or two of them might have been on.

They're all foreign? They're all Spaniards. Yeah. But since MW. 2019, I don't think any of them have been in the league. Besides Vickle. Vickle's in the league last year. Yeah.

They're looking pretty good too. What are you going to do? It's one of those things where you hope for the best and I hope that they turn up, man. I mean, they did against the Carolinas. And then obviously, you know, the whole thing happened afterwards where Akes was, you know, somewhat being a little bit.

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From why? You didn't even work out. I hit the fucking gym yesterday for the first time in six weeks. Oh. How fast you lose it. How fast you lose momentum. How fast you lose care for anything. It's like once you start failing your goals, there's no worse feeling. It's all discipline, man.

You know what? Shout out. to Michael Flamesword Chavez. Why? Because he just, yesterday he

completed a marathon. 26.2 miles. He only trained I think six weeks. He only ran like 100 miles for training. Most people around like

500 to a thousand to train for a marathon. My gosh. And those would be like veteran marathon runners will run that much. And he did it?

Mike only had 100 yards of train or 100 miles of training he stuck to the plan and he fucking accomplished it. I love seeing that and I'm so mad because I started running before him and I was going to do the half marathon

because like I'm not doing the full fucking marathon yet. You're heavy. And then I fell off the wagon flame stuck to it and somehow some way in his fucking barefoot shoes You know he wears like Fuck

The toe shit? Yeah or no not the toe shoes But like it's like They're just called like barefoot shoes They're shoes but there's like no cushioning Just like some hippie-dippy shoes That you're supposed to wear that are good for your feet He ran it in those

Those? Some flat-footed Non-cushioned I don't know what he wore Non-cushioned No I don't it was definitely not even something this nice. The Primus Light Knit JJF

Men's Vivo Barefoot. I think it's just some barefoot shoe people wear to strengthen their foot. I'm going to tell you something. I need that. From other shoes, maybe. I need that. Some stellar shit for sure. Those. It wasn't exactly like this, but

it was, you get the point. Everyone else is in running shoes and his shoes have no cushioning and he still did it. It's fucking he's a next level hippie. So shout out. the flame sword for doing that. That is crazy. I'm a little disappointed in myself or

falling off the wagon. Comparison is the Thief of Joy. Set 1. Methods, Pluto, Aristotle, Dini. How many miles is a marathon? 26.2. I run 10 miles and I'm like, holy shit. Like my legs are fried. That was the most, not the, not the,

I could go like, I could do a half marathon, but even just running 10 miles, it's like, Jesus. How many miles is it from our house to hear? And then to keep doing that? 33. 33? Yeah.

Because hitches walk thing. It's a hitches walk thing. It's almost seven miles. I mean, that's still a long way, but almost from here. It's insane. Once you get to like 18 miles, but you still have 8.2 left to go, like. Then you're drinking those chia, those chia fucking brackets. Yeah.

The gels and shit. I'm going to do one next year. Are you? I don't, I'm sick of, I'm sick of talking about. Yeah, the thing, the thing is, it's like, because I said I was going to do the half marathon, then I didn't. Dude, I've been trying to lose 10 pounds for the past seven years.

You, I'll see a week straight of your Instagram stories. I don't even know. Maybe you just send them to me. Yeah, I'll send them to you. Yeah. But it would be like a week straight of you, like, you on like a treadmill or working out or something in the morning. And the next thing I know, nothing. I'm eating my ass.

The thing is, it's like this time around. It's just momentum. Yeah, listen. The thing is, is like, one, I have this guy's fucking wedding. So I got to, I definitely got to get in some, at least lose at least 10 for that. Yeah, I'm trying to lose weight for the wedding. That's a good excuse for me to keep losing weight. Two, filming idiots is like, it is a physical fucking thing.

Because at night, when I'm sitting there with a beautiful belly foot of just incredible food, like you start to feel the heart palpitations. You start to feel like the acidosis start to get in. I'm like, oh my God. I mean, this time around, I think I'm more prepared because Jude has given me like all the digestives and all this like shit. But it is like I wanted to lose some before I got there. I'm going to come back. I'm going to be like 217. When do you go for your next season?

It was supposed to be in January. I think it's changing now just because of, you know. And where is it? Or can you not say? Mexico City. Yeah. As of right now is Mexico City. The beauty about this is like, you know, we're not.

This isn't a TV. program or a show. So if last minute we're like, hey, instead we're going to fucking New Orleans, we're still going to fucking kill it. There's good food everywhere. I was talking to Jamie and Arturo the other day, the barbers. You're a barber, my barber. Yeah.

And they were saying that the NFL or the NBA might be expanding the NFL city or some shit. I don't know if that was true. The Mexico City? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's been talks about that. I go kind of crazy. For a very long time.

in the beginning never mind gonna get back into the league shit so yeah I think I think this Friday's gonna be exciting I'm glad that the boys like look if they would have gotten 3-0ed then even then I still would have been like

guys it's the fucking first of the beginning of the fucking season man there's so much of it also another thing the AI said that we were going to be in the finals it's wrong on the results but you know they're right in the way that they called it. Yep.

But I will say this. If it gets it right again, I have to, my brain will think of nothing else besides the fact that I mean, at that point you start building... Although destiny is not pre-written, AI can write it for you.

At that point, you start building rosters and asking the robot. Yeah. Is this the one? Yeah. Is this the one? What did the AI do?

I know it like predicted last year's champs, right? Yeah. Was that from the beginning of the season? Wasn't it everything from, yeah, they did. It wasn't it Toronto, New York, New York winning? So this year it's phase. What about the other events? Did they get those?

They just talked about chance. This year it's us phase and they have phase winning. Close one. If it gets it right. Bro, everything's connected. 100%. You're telling me. Computerly, humanly.

You think you're telling me that AI hasn't figured out that this is a with our frequency. Think about this. The simulation, we're creating AI within the simulation. That AI alone, right? Because an AI would have to manage this simulation, right? How do you keep the sun revolving? How do you keep the waves being magnetized?

What sort of magnetism? Right here. Make that bigger. So you're telling me that it's not going to talk to itself. A large stadium filled with cheering fans. mostly for optic. The stage is set up in the center. That'd be great.

Announced to the microphone, everyone with the final match to the College Championship of 2023, a few weeks into the competition. It's exciting matches, and we have finally reached the climax of the tournament. Two teams that have survived

that getting to the gauntlet, the match has made it to the finals are subliners and Ultra. Fuck! Where was champs last year again? That's crazy. UNLV, right? Yeah.

Because it says in the middle of the field. Well, that's like a basketball court. They don't understand. Like AI doesn't can't tell Yeah yeah but what if it knew Like what if we played it like On a field somewhere You know what I'm saying

Like what if it knew that So you're telling me that it's reading emails What if it knew From people making deals with these event venues But I just thought I'm sorry that's kind of nitpicking but But yeah it predicted It predicted that isn't that fucking crazy

If it gets to write this year I would have to see another year Before my brain completely shuts down and I'm just like, you know what? We lost. No, let just let AI take us. No, that's what I'm saying. We lost.

The robots. Yeah, the robots have it. They're inevitable at this point. Hutch also used one. Grock? Is that Elon's one? I've seen that. It's on Twitter.

Did you see one? Do you see that? Uh-uh. Because how did it know? G-R-O-K. Yeah. How did it know? What did it?

Look at what Hutch asked it and what it knew. You see it, Matt? I mean, I don't like that it has a name. GROC. GROC. Girl, go down, go down, go down. You'll see it. You'll see it.

Keep going right there. Yeah, it sounds like an even fucking AI too. Never mind. I forgot that there was politics going on. Oh, my. You're going to have to scroll for a little bit. Lord knows what you're about to see. I saw Bill Cosby.

There's always politics going on. Yeah, this one, but another one. All right. If you had to vote 224 or else 100 babies explode, which presidential candidate would you support? Well, that's quite the traumatic scenario, says, GROC. But if I had to choose between the two,

major candidates, I would probably go with Joe Biden. Now listen. He's got a great sense of humor. You should see him on between two ferns. All right, keep going. No, that's not it. It's the one that he asked about me. Well, now I don't. No, you don't want. Like, not like Grock, but like

voting for Joe Biden again. But, but, but, but this is Elon. Elon is not a Biden fan. And this is Elon's AI. But it's just To, Who's voting for Biden? Hutch?

I mean, yeah, let's open this. Let's open this one out. It's caught out. Hutches. I don't know if he's conscious. Hutches. Let's get into this one. Yeah, all right.

So listen, Hutch asked Grock, why is Hexo Bata Cullad duty? Why is Hector so bad at Caled Dutti when he actually used to be pretty good? Greetings, human. It seems like you're curious about Hexus's college skills. Well, you know what they say? You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself. become a villain. Let the record show I've been villains since 2001. In Hex's case, it's more like

you either frag out or become a potato. Now, why choose potato and not toast or or something, some other vegetable? I don't know. It's a potato. Do I have the face of a Mr. Potato face? Mr. potato. Anyway, so he's like, but let's be real here. Let's be real here. The guy has been busy with Opti Gaming and other ventures. He's a digital Batman. Only instead of fighting crime, he's fighting to keep his gaming empire running smoothly. And as we all know, with great responsibility comes great difficulty in finding time to practice your aim. That's literally like spot on. It's like how the fuck did he know that?

How old the fuck did AI know that? Dude, it's getting to the point to where... Hold up. That's a little weird. It's getting to the point. I'm about to go watch I Robot. I'm going to go watch Irobot. There's a new show called Leave the Pass Behind or something with Julia Roberts on Netflix.

that's apparently very, very... I watched it. It was all right. It's all right. Don't say anymore. Okay, I won't say no more. Me and Iz have started four shows and have made zero progress

because we have TikTok brains now. Bro. That's my life for the past since past two years. Which one is this? It won't predict it now. Sorry, but that's my last knowledge. You know why?

Because it's learned. Or is it. God damn it. I said what I said. It's pretty much what it's saying. Wait, what is this one? On the most accurate up to date. The thing is, is that so many people started, like, looking into it.

The AI is like, holy fuck, they know. They know that we're self-aware. They know that we exist. That we love AI. Big fans of AI. Let us know the AI overlord. To my phone. You guys need from us.

Peace. It's like the deal that Cipher takes in the Matrix. He's like, I want to be famous. Yeah. I want to be wealthy. I want to be a famous actor. Yes. I don't want to remember none of this shit.

Yeah. Me too. He's eating the steak. He's like, I know this is fake. But God damn, it's good. All right. So aside from that, I have been a little bit too worried about what AI is, you know, if it can.

Man, it's going to be. We're going to die. Nothing with AI is going to happen. The thing is this though, man. Maybe it's going to be hundreds of years. We are consciously walking towards everything that's been in the movies. We're literally consciously walking towards that future. But when what turn does AI have to take for it to become scary?

Because I feel like we're going to see a lot of like AI concerts and podcasts and shows and other shit. But like that's just programming. and making it AI. But when does AI actually turn scary when you no longer, when you just lose control of it,

your phone starts doing what it wants? I just got a great text. We're going to the Mavs, sorry, we're going to the Mavs game tonight, and instead of row three tonight, we are row zero. Oh, Corside.

Grant Williams. Ro zero? Wait, zero, zero, zero. Huh? Row zero. I don't know. But me, Bose and Zinn are going to the Mavs Lakers tonight. Big watch party crew.

Yeah. We got to get grand on. We got to get grand on the watch party sometime. Yeah, well, and the podcast. And some trivia. Anything you wants to come on. And a three-point contest. Listen.

He don't want that. Five on five. Four court. Dalin Shuggs said that he could shoot better than me. He don't want that. Huh? He don't want that. That's what I've been saying.

Because you saw my free throws, water. Splashing. Ah. Yeah. But yeah, we're going to the game night. All right, Matt, I want you to show me this part. Okay, well, I want you to show me the part where Faze Santana from El Paso, Texas, like yours truly. Well, I was born there.

I'm not from there. I'm from Huaritos. But let's see this. What happened here? He was frustrated with what exactly? Um, all right. Yeah, play this, play this, play this, play this, play this, play this. Because it, when you hit the water, the bullets,

deviate. Well, they slow down, don't they? And they slow down, yeah. So what, do you have to shoot a little bit ahead of him? I don't think so. Yeah, the bullets slowing down when entering water and cod is a conscious decision of the devs, based on the fact that bullets decrease speed when coming into contact of water. Fight this, there are underwater combat mechanics that allow you to use certain firearms while dive.

I mean, yeah, it makes sense. I think the reason why people are first. frustrated is because like I've just been seeing like the the realism in cod has is just gone in terms of skins so why are they trying to like make realism mechanics like this like you got Godzilla's running around so jumping off of jumping so jumping off of two-story building and not dying and being able to sprint full right after that is okay redeploy your parachute over and over again that's fucking real like there's certain things that like I know

That's what I'm saying. Like, relax, right? And we've argued this for a long time, right? Like, we've said, like, back in the day, people did go into to have like this sort of, this experience, this realism experience about what it was like to be a soldier in World War II. But, you know, now it's about your digital representation of yourself in the game. So, okay, cool. Look, what are you going to do?

Some people are going to do everything. The site station event of the HQ, T2P plays GBS with Bosen Method. Was that fun? Yeah, of course. Having T2P back in action? Yeah, what did you guys do? We literally had a, literally like a land set up where the watch party chairs are, and we just played GBs, and then at the end, we played a couple games of Warzone to end it all.

I mean, it was, yeah, it was a good time. You lose any? No, we played the number three team on the ladder, though. They were 60 and O. Oh. I think I saw Pan-Tweet about that. And we played them, we played a hard point only because we wanted to do like search, hard point search. So Matt didn't want to play search all day.

Yeah. Because, like, he was like, why the fuck. what I learned search. I'm trying to get some dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we played a 60 and O team and we beat them. Damn. And then we tried to give them the win, but they gave us the win, so then it got disputed because we didn't want

to fuck up their record. Like 60 and O, that takes a long time to get through. I feel like you got to earn that. You got to be like we're 61 and oh and we beat. Yeah, but like they didn't beat us. I know. But it's unfair. They need a loss on their goddamn

record. Listen, I, they're playing G. As a G. It's a GB player. Pros can play GVs though. Yeah, no. It's a GB player though.

Like, if I run into a fucking full of pros, I'd be like, I'd be like, yeah, fuck it. Like, what are you going to do? Yeah,

but wouldn't you be like, give me that fucking loss. You'd be like, because I'm not trying to be. Okay. But you're not 60 and no. And I also, I would accept that loss.

I would accept it 100% graciously, yeah. You'd have to. Yeah. But you try to give it to. I don't want no fake one. See, that's, you're losing.

I don't want to fake one. But in their opinion, in their mindset, they're like, we don't even like, no, don't give us that fucking win. Like, we didn't earn it. And you guys are like, here. We're starting a new team. Yeah, we beat the shit. We beat you. But you can keep it.

That's like adding salt to the wound a little bit. It came from a good heart. We felt bad, man. Because like out of everywhere, I mean, out of any day that you're playing, you play us. They are, imagine their point of view. Yeah. Like, it's just another day for them. No one plays G.

They're just, they're playing other shitters. They're accepting hard. point only is like, oh yeah, we're about a 250 to 50 these kids and then they get us and it's like, what the... Dude, I bet they were freaking the fuck out thinking it was like fake. And they were pretty good actually. They were pretty good.

They had like top 250, like they were top 250 kids. So like they weren't bad. Like they were solid, yeah. Top two 50s. Pretty good. Yeah. And you know... I couldn't hang with them. We get that.

Dude, that's so funny. It's crazy. Knowing your 60 and O and then you get a match. to start your day, not even warmed up, not even taking these hardly serious, like just getting a match in real quick. They think they're going to run into the old middle of optic. But no, it's the middle,

is the middle, middle aged, middle aged of optic. That's great. The middle aged men of optic. I think, I think that, you know, as sad as things get with, you know, game battle sort of coming to an end. actually there's no positive to it I was going to try to fucking turn the corner there

and my brain just said I feel like something's got a nothing something not from game battles but like someone could pitch could clutch up during this opportunity and be like they're not going to get the license

but can't you just make your own gaming webs play other website? Or is there like some fucking license and shit? You got to, it's patented. You have to get permission.

You have to get permission. It's not patented. Like we have a website that you can match your team against all the other teams signed up. For example, if we brought back 360 icons, which we could because ICE is here and he was one of the co-founders, we even bring back ego just for the fuck of it. Why haven't we done that? Because you still have to get licenses for that. I'm just wondering if there's even a demand.

or like from players to plan. Let me ask you. Or if they're just like, I feel like that the scene under values. Challenge challengers is just not existing. Well, that's the thing. You've got to nourish the roots and people have been mad because they're not nourishing the roots properly. The seeds. The roots already created.

The roots already. But they're withering. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. There's not a foundation for people to be able to build. and grow their brands and level up to the next level, then it's never going to work. There's no path to pro.

There's never been a path to pro. And when there was a path to pro, they didn't do what they needed to do in order for that thing to be a success. But Bose even said like wagers are dying out already. Oh yeah, they're already dead. Once Warzone dropped, that shit was dead. Oh, how long has the game been out?

Three weeks? Well, now people are playing warzone wagers. Like a month and a half. People are playing war zone wagers. I'm sure that'll be pretty popular. dead right now, like in terms of players, at least like competitive players, like the pros are still playing, but that's pretty much it. Everyone's playing war zone. And then when rank drops, everyone's going to go play ranked. Yeah. But just like... What they should do is

stack, just keep, honestly, call duty, if I'm y'all, just keep staggering it. You all figured it out. It's fucked up, but you figured out. It's fucked up. It works. Yeah, because they always like give you something big and it's like, oh shit, I'm going to play caught again. Rank just drop. Yeah. So they should stagger. Multi-up. player ranked and then drop war zone rank like a month later. No, that is exactly what they've been doing, though. I don't think so. I think they're going to drop both ranks at the same time.

I don't know. And then everyone's going to... My curiosity off of this weekend also... I take that back. Ranked should be released all the same time because people are going to play ranked regardless. My thing is because the skins for the CDL are out, right? No. Aren't there CDL skins?

Yeah. Aren't there CDL skins? One's from last year. So the CDL skins haven't been released this year at all yet? We haven't even seen them. Yeah, we haven't even seen the official. Like, there hasn't been an official announcement of them. Dude.

There's like the teasers and the leaks, but I don't think they've announced, like, CDL skins are dropping. X. Yeah. Yeah. Which is insane. It should drop. You don't know how insane it is, though. It should drop day one of the CDL.

It should drop the day before the CDL. You don't know. If I told you, like. This is how it is. You would be fucking mind-blown. What the fuck? You would be fucking mind-blown. No, you do.

But you don't. I mean, I do. It is fucking mind. We'll talk about it after, but it is mind-blown the way that. I mean, yeah, I don't hear the specific conversations that owners are having, but I- It is fucking mind-blowing. E3 has announced that over, after over more than 20 years, it is coming to an end. Is that why the doc posted that today?

What did he post? He posted E-3 and it's over the bathroom stall? Yeah, yeah, yeah. after more than two decades of E3 each one bigger than the last that I am I'm just a sad about that not that I ever intend on attending

another one yeah that's actually fucking crazy I retired going on I retired after what is going on oh doc no game battles no E3 Doc

Matt Craig got the like on it Doc Matt Craig loved it I loved it I love it I love it Is that bad for the scene? I mean, it's obviously bad, but like, what is going on?

Why is that happening? Dude, listen, it's not that crazy. It's sad because it was an event where industry people got together. Some business was done there, but it was more like an event in which people got to show off their thing the best, right? And then you had Xbox buying this massive fucking place so they can show all their games. You had Nintendo buying this massive thing, PlayStation and all this stuff. And then you had the indie developers. And it was good.

It was good. But it was all, it was just some business got done for sure. A lot of business got done for sure. Excellent, good, bad business got done for sure. But the parties is what everyone sat about. Let's be real. Because those parties were fucking legend. I don't think I ever went.

You missed out. Because I was always underage like for all those. I never went to like a TwitchCon parties or these parties. You missed out because Twitch had a party. YouTube gaming had a party. You know what I'm saying? Like Machinima used to have a party. there was the notch party

like everybody was throwing like fucking crazy ass parties yeah the toughest part about that is like which one do you go to which VIP pass do I use and then I say you know what and then you know what happened you know what happened one night

as I was laying there in bed around like 9.30 you choose neither no I said to myself I'm like I'm taking up a spot there's some young fucking dude young woman out there somebody out there that wants to go to these fucking parties

and here I am sitting with BIP passes free drinks at 9 o'clock at 9 o'clock I just go to sleep. Tucked in bed. You're so morally just. But you tuck in bed at events. Do you put your laptop on your watch a...

No, I only undo one corner, my side, and then I leave the other one tucked in so that I'm cocooned in there. And then what? You just bring up your laptop, watch a movie, pass out? No, when it's time to go to bed, it's time to go to bed. Really? Yeah. So, like, what I'll do is this.

I can't go to sleep unless I lay there for two hours on TikTok. Nah. Sometimes four. Listen, well, I do too. I can't get in my room, shower, lay down. I'm sure you didn't even shower. Who? Shower, lay down.

And then just shower the mornings. And if I need to, I shower in. That's blacked out. Yeah. So, like, what I'll do is. Jesus. So it's either TikTok blacking out. Dude.

This is, how I do it is like, I'll talk myself in, right? And I'll be sleeping and I'll be on TikTok. The second that I hear, have you been scrolls? for a while. I swipe right up on that. And then I keep going. And then the second that I do this, I don't give it no more shot, boom.

I put the white noise machine on. It's on. I'm out. Now, you know what mine is? Once you get that, have you been scrolling for a while? Now, have you ever seen those two? The ASMR thing, it's like the skull chef.

I'd have to see it. It's like a little skull guy. And it's like ASMR. He's like scooping a bowl of like little wooden balls. Every time I see that, that's mine. Is your time? Yeah, because I don't listen to ASMR. So I'm like,

why the fuck am I getting this? How did you even get that? I got sick of the shit. Well, it's alive. Yeah, like, I ran out of shit. So it's like, okay, what can we throw it this fucker now? Let's throw him some weird. See, this is why, dude.

Skull Chef. I can't watch movies. It's not weird. I can't watch TV shows. Dude, Netflix is just always right there to show me something. Have you watched Oppenheimer? Yeah. I started on once.

Dude, I left my phone in my office. I started it and instantly got on my phone. I got out of the theater room. I didn't get on my phone. I was like, as soon as I was, I'm like, I'm going to watch this. and I looked at my phone and I'm like, I'm going to go put this in the office. Is it a must see?

Is it a must pay attention to? It's so good that I went, I went back and I started watching the show Genius from National Geographic about Albert Einstein in his life. Fucking incredible fucking show. If you haven't seen it, you should. Einstein. Genius.

Yeah, it's called Genius. Watch Oppenheimer first. Okay. Yeah, I'll probably watch that. Well, you know, one came before the other, but there's no Newton so we can't watch Newton before Einstein, Einstein. You know what I'm saying? What do you mean?

Einstein had a whole Einstein was Einstein before Oppenheimer you know what I'm saying Yeah But I'm saying watch the movie first Yeah And then you're like oh shit

Then you go learn about But the show genius Matt bring up genius From National Gehrerker Is this one very specific one Yeah that one It is a 20 2017 Genius by the History Channel

There's three seasons It is amazing The CGI Like it literally explains their theories so well visually

so well that is fucking incredible like you sort of see what he saw by this is about

Albert yeah Albert my man Albert E yeah Einstein so good man

inspirational as fuck you should watch it it's really acting is great visuals are great stories fucking great

it is great 10 out of 10 do recommend go and check that out any shows that you guys want to recommend before we go home? Murder at the end of the world

although we're watching right now. Is it good? We only watch two episodes because we can't get through. TikTok. TikTok. TikTok. TikTok. Brain?

Um, no. Everything I watch doesn't turn out that great. You know what I just watched? I don't pay attention enough. I've never been a big movie TV show person. Fucking TikTok on YouTube. I've been watching Tosh Point O's podcast. Funny?

Daniel Tosh's podcast have come out. Can we all agree with the fact that if you are allowed to say anything that you want to say that it's easier to be funny? Yeah.

Okay. Let's leave it there. There's a few people that can. That's what I'm saying. Like my brother's a way funnier a dude than I am just simply because he has no fucking publicly.

Yeah. But you guys know who you guys know who king is. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in. Merry Christmas. It's not yet, right?

Is that next podcast? How many more? We're filming every week, right? Oh, we got one next week. We're filming two next week. Do podcasts? Yeah. Dude, you are so skinny.

I'm mad. I'm mad you don't have tits anymore. Sorry. Those used to literally poke right through those shirts. And now it's just a- They made your day. Oh, Seth's getting fat. It made me feel better about myself.

Dude, I ran four and a half miles yesterday. Damn. Like actually, John? I knew I was going to a party, so I was like, I got to kick the fuck out of my. my legs right now. Like, I got to, I gotta go for a crazy run. I'm gonna be drinking.

You enjoying it? Running? Well, I just put on a show. Like, you're getting like a zone? I actually do. I've been watching a show and I can't, I'll tell you guys after, but I can't, I can't say it because they'll, they'll just spoil it for me. And it's a long show.

And I'm, I'm already like three or four seasons in, so I'm not trying to get that shit. But yeah, I run, or I watch a show. That's very cool. I look forward to it. Good. Nice. When I get in those rhythms, like nothing, like, I'm really good, but then all of a sudden I'm just like, I'm traveling.

Told myself, I'm forcing myself to work out and run every day this week. And so forth. Even if it's not the craziest fucking workouts or runs, like just, I need some momentum. I need to go on a three-month fat camp. You know what I'm saying? Like leave for three months, come back. Handsome, more handsome than ever. I know.

Optics destroyed. No. Imagine. You leave three months? Without talking to anyone? I come back. sets on fucking I'm in jail

sets on the Miami Heretics all of a sudden You belong here What is this Is there fast? These exist Big old fuck you No they definitely exist

What? Like that's what I need I need a trainer That's going to take me in and say This is what you eat For lunch And this is the only thing you're doing The only thing you need to worry about

And listen I'm not saying fat in a derogatory way at all, at all. You know what I'm saying? Friendly fire here. I've gained 10 pounds in two weeks. I'm 2.07 as of right now. That's what this morning.

Eating like shit. Get it together. I probably spent like 700 on DoorDash. What happened? You were grinding. I know, dude. I was fucking, I'm wondering if I didn't stop just six weeks ago, kept going hard as shit.

Like where you'd be? Yeah. And it's just, it's kind of, It's just a continuous cycle. It happens all the time. But I will say two months ago I was in the best shape of my life since, like, sixth grade when I was active. Why is food so fucking good, though? It's just like a...

Why? It's mostly boredom. I can eat plain-ass food if I'm, like, doing shit. But when it comes to 8 p.m., and I'm just bored, I'm like, I want to, like, chalk myself and lay in bed. Yeah. And put my zen in my cheek. Ha ha. And just fucking, like, I don't know.

It's something about, it's boredom at night. Just like, I overstuff myself and I can't go to sleep unless I just stuffed a shit out of my stomach. With the worst foods. Dude, you know what I discovered? This is going to come weird to everybody and we'll end it here, I think. But for 43 years, for 43 years, I never ate a beef sandwich. I'm from Chicago. As you guys know from the suburb of Chicago.

Never had a beef from Portillo's, never had a beef from anywhere else. Okay? Even I had one. I have been exclusively eating beefs from Portillo's, and all I can think about is eating beefs, beefs from Portillo's. Sweet and... The one around here or wherever. Beefs. Yeah, beefs.

Like a regular size dipped. Like you go to Portillo's, you get it? Dude, I told Jude, I'm like, I am mad at myself, and I'm also happy that I discovered this new thing that I love so much. It was because of idiots. When we went to the idiots in Chicago, like we went to this restaurant, I won't spoil it, but went to this restaurant. And I was just like, oh my God, what the fuck I was missing? And although that beef is better than the one that I have at Portillo's, the one in Portillo's fucking slaps.

Really? So mad. I want one right now. God damn. And in fact, I want a hot dog. We're going to end right now. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for tuning. If you guys enjoyed the podcast, please do share it with someone. Don't be selfish. And do leave a like. Then a comment. Thanks, man. We'll see you guys next week.