OpTic Podcast - BIGGEST TOURNAMENT IN COD HISTORY! | OpTic PODCAST Ep. 32

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

With the announcement of the upcoming Call of Duty Championships, we sat down and discussed the format, rules, and the standing going into this year's biggest tournament! Go to http://keeps.com/optic to receive your first month of treatment for free! Go to http://awaytravel.com/optic and start your 100 day trial today! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to answer. You guys don't, right? Just in case you guys get fined, right? I'm going to put it as lightly as possible. It already did. Yeah, I'm co-signing that. That should have been done. Welcome, welcome to episode number 32 of the Optic Podcast.

This episode is brought to you by Keeps and Away, which explains that suitcase that I just received today. I'm like, did you bought me a new one? Buy me a new one? Because I needed one. Also, I've missed you guys. Thank you for allowing me to step back in. Obviously, I've been working, man. I've been grinding.

I've been traveling a lot. You guys have been left to your own devices to carry the podcast. And all I hear is pocket things. Oh, let's not get into that. Yeah, man. It's good to have you back. Thank you. Podcasts definitely don't feel the same without you.

Well, the thing is this. And this is where I don't get enough credit. People always are like, heck, they never lets anybody else talk. He's always concerning himself. Do you know what this podcast would look like if I didn't fucking try to fucking carry? Go look at the last one. Okay. Was I in the last one?

No. Point blank period. Amen. I was in one of them. They talked about Hala the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. You were just sitting there the whole time.

If you didn't, but the thing is, if you didn't carry, someone else would step up and carry. You would think so. Like Hitch hits me up on the side. He's like, hey, just so you know, I didn't want it to happen. But we ended up talking about the podcast. pocket things for like the entire episode. I'm like, come on, man.

The pocket, like bay blades? No, the pocket. What do they call? Let them rip? The pocket. You know, the. Oh, flashlight. Flashlight, yeah.

You know. Yeah. They talked about the flashlight like the entire time. A former owner of one. But the whole thing? What? Former owner of one? Everyone in the Optic House got one.

I didn't. Oh, didn't you have one of like 60-50 or something? Everyone in the optic house got one. No, nature had one. Who got him to everyone? And didn't someone find it years later? You? No, I didn't find it.

I remember someone... I remember someone said something about, I think after NadeShaw moved out that they found it or something in the classic. It was dusty? Dusty, sticky. No, it couldn't have. It was dry. Anyway, let's move on. We have a bunch of conversations to be had.

Obviously, I wasn't in the last two because I had what? business and then I had to go out west for the for the cannabis business to visit the farms Whiskey leaf in the building they're looking fruitful as ever massive massive buds you know what I mean buddy but would you say that you're getting the best of the best um see it all depends on on who look I know that I'm going to have some quality fire yeah affordable and unaffordable affordable affordable to some affordable not so I was going to say you know it just I popped in my brain that that the Olympic runner that got disqualified for smoking weed. And that's kind of crazy.

That's nuts. It takes, it takes, what's her name? I think it was because it was, where are the Olympics? In Japan, I think. Yeah, Tokyo. Tokyo? That's Japan, right? Yeah. So apparently in Japan, it's super illegal.

So they were saying that if it wasn't in Japan, she probably wouldn't have gotten trouble. But since it was in Japan, since they're so strict on it. Yeah, Shakari. Shikari's her name. But I don't know. I'm just speaking off of what I read on Twitter. I'm not really too well versed in it. No, what happens is that every athlete gets tested, right?

Yeah. And if they don't find performance enhancing drugs, that's one thing. See, right? So she, yeah, that's the weird part. This is where the line is, where, like, weed ain't performance enhancing. Unless you, like, take it to an extreme and you look at, like, muscle, you know, rehabilitation and, like, whenever you're done at the end of the day, it's, like, relaxing. Yeah, sleep.

Yeah. Like, you could take it to that extreme, but it's not a. performance amazing drug. That's not, I mean, I guess, I guess it helps performance by recovery, but not during it. If anything, she's putting herself, she's debilitating herself during a run because she's smoking and she's like, you know, they're smoking the lungs and it's not, they're not as fresh as whatever. Either way. Well, if you're like a short runner.

Yeah, look, it takes, it takes stuff like this though to to find out how stupid shit is, right? It takes stuff like this to be this public and for this many people to talk. talk about it to sort of have change start to happen. And look, I don't want to spend too much time on it just because it's not, but it's, it's what's his name? Caruso just got caught with a grinder. A grinder for those of you who don't know is a little bit of a magic bullet hand that you We don't need to educate everybody.

We're not educating. I'm just saying he got caught with a grant. There was literally no, no, no flower. There was no flower in the thing. It was just like dust and stuff that was a stuff that was left over. they got them to that. I take back what I said because the NFL, they still drug test for weed too.

No, they're, they're, I think they're a lot more. The NFL, the NBA, I think the NBA and the NFL are going to start allowing people to use it. I think they already do.

They already do? I think so. So never mind then. The NFL won't drug test for THC in players from April 20th to August 9th. April, oh, 2021. That's the offseason.

Yeah, yeah. The policy means that the 2021 first year players. can celebrate 420 without discipline from the NFL. Yeah, look, again, the ties are turning. We're just going to have to wait. Everybody needs to be patient. Right, that still doesn't, they're still getting tested during the season for it.

Yeah, they're going to get tested, but they're not going to do anything about it because they can't be. Yeah, it's where they came out and said, like, that they are way less harsh on it now. Yeah, they can't, they can't be okay with it in some cases and not okay with, you know, in other case. It's just such a bad thing, right? It's such a weird, weird law.

They should have never been there. Anyway, let's start, let's start with the topics at hand. It's all about control. It's all about control, Seth. Right? It's all about those five major, uh, alcohol, tobacco, tobacco, marijuana. Marijuana? No, marijuana is what they were going against, lobbying against.

Crack? Crag. Smoke crack with me, bro. Say, hey, bro. Smoke crack with me. He's like, what? That's from, uh, Wolf Wall Street. For anyone, I'm not actually asking him to smoke crack with me.

No, no, no. All right. So Clayster says the war zone could kill competitive, or call it. multiplayer. Could this be true? I'm going to answer. You guys don't, right? Just in case you guys get fined, right? I'm going to put it as lightly as possible. It already did.

I'm co-signing that. That should have been done. That should have been done. Well, I mean, it's not like it's, you know, not apparent to everybody. I mean, look at Twitch, for instance. Look at the player base, like, you know, Cold War has like 6K viewers. Warzone has like minimum 100 all the time. Here is my question. And Warzone has a tournament like every two days.

They're playing for 100 grand every day. two days. Yeah, here's my question though, right? And here's where the debate happens. Do you think that it's Warzone or do you think it's the popular personalities that are playing Warzone? Would Warzone be as popular as it is today if Nick, Tim, Jack, we'll throw Symphony in there because he's the homie?

Now. Would Warzone be that big? No, that's how it always is with games. The people, well, I mean, they're going to have like their casual audience already and Call of Duty definitely has a huge casual audience. It isn't like linked with Twitch and YouTube But I mean that definitely helps a lot With just promotion in general

Because think about how many viewers they all have And how many friends all those viewers have They're like yo did you see this? Yo did you see this? So it just like trickles down And then their friends tell their friends And that's what everyone plays So I feel like it does have a big impact

Like what the streamers are playing Yeah like even me when I get on my phone And I click Twitch and I see all of these people playing warzone In my mind I'm not even thinking about playing war zone But when I see it every single day, people are playing Warsone. Scrolling through Twitter, Warzone clips. It's all you ever see. Yeah.

So it's like one of these days, you're just bound to sign on and play. I would play Warzone only. Actually, I would play Game Battles, S&D matches first, then Warzone, then League Play. Those are, those are, those are my right-d-ee. But if you saw these content creators playing League Play, do you think people would start searching League Play? Of course. I think, well, yeah, a lot more. Not as many as you think, because the game is just not, it's, you can't sit there,

and play league play for four hours because you're playing the same four maps. Warzone, you get a different experience every single time if you win. And war zone is like way more rewarding. And creative. Yeah. Like if you play league play you're playing,

I mean, I was saying yesterday, they literally gave us a soft Black Ops 2 remaster and nobody like has said anything. Like we, they're bringing back Plaza Slums and Yemen. So now we have standoff raid, Plaza Slums, Yemen. The Express. We have six Black Ops 2 maps.

The NIR strike has been playing the same maps for the last 20 years. Yeah, but Call of Duty, like, is known for originality in, like, creating new good maps. But when they do, you guys complain about how shitty the maps are. No, that's not true. You GA maps. They're just not as good as they could be. Yeah. Huh?

They're just not as good as they could be. I'm playing. Like, look at World War II. I was talking about World War II, for instance. You had like, Devil's Advocate. Two or three good maps. You had London Docks, St. Marie. I liked Flack Tower for CTF.

Some people don't agree with that. But then you had like Gibraltar, Ardennes, like bad maps that offset the good maps. So now you have like half good maps, half bad maps. There's not been a game where it's like all good competitive maps. Since ALo3. Since a long time ago. Yeah. I don't think that there's going to be any change or any sort of improvement or any real, I don't know, silver lining in competitive Call of Duty.

They need to. Until we allocate one specific building in theory. I'm not talking about a physical building. I'm talking about a building block of people either figuring out only what competitive is and nobody else in the company can say, well, this is not, you know what I mean? Like, I need them to either create a department that only focuses on competitive and their thing is competitive only. Because when you start mixing in creatives from Warzone, creatives from multiplayer and then creatives from competitive,

then you're looking at the multiplayer builders that one only specifies on kill-confirmed. The other one does TDM only. There needs to be more innovation. There's just, it's, it's, Cod's been the same thing. Yeah, so while I was traveling, I was watching. What are you talking about? Fucking Nick.

Well, what's Nick doing over here? TTA. What are you dropping merch? Probably in like two weeks. Why are you pushing it now? I'm not pushing it. I'm just doing this thing. Just letting them to slide.

Let me rock over here. But Kaan needs to be more out. League play and yeah, war zone. Caught needs to be more innovative. It's been the same thing for the past like. So has Counterstrike. So has League of Legends. Yeah, but they have good ranking systems.

So that's, you can't even compare it. So you're talking about ranking system. Can we get a good ranking system? Can we get a good ranking system? Facts. Can't even compare. It is the question. Can we get a good ranking system that is really.

when the game is released and not as a market employee to bump up the frequency in which Call of Duty is spoken. It needs to be released. But would a good ranking system be like how everyone wanted boots on the ground? That boots on the ground came out there like, this isn't actually who gives a shit? And like no one really cared about having a boots on the ground. Everyone's saying, oh, wait until if there's a good ranking system, then a good ranking system comes out. Is it really going to do that much?

I don't know All I know is that I was I was traveling And then I saw I was traveling I signed the news Something about you saying that you're gonna Like if the next year's game isn't good I might hang up my boots Huh

I said I need to see a trailer or some shit Another World War II game I've heard a lot of a lot of bad things There needs to be just like rumors I don't know if they're true because they are rumors But I've heard a lot of you know Just like it's underdeveloped they don't have the staff to do it It's a what? It's a World War II

It's a Rush game like this Cold War kind of feels like a little bit of a rush game so if there's another year of a game like this and they're gonna like

try to integrate into war zone somehow what's the next cod like based off of like what other Cod isn't that the shitty one yeah like no colors yeah they added pine trees

like two cod to go or something look that shit was trash it was not fun it was not fun to play I mean it just again I please don't find me. I'm speaking just, I'm speaking facts.

I'm not even giving opinions. I'm speaking straight factual. So you can't find me for speaking facts. They can't find you for saying what has happened. Can't find me for speaking facts. I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking. Ah, yeah. You know? Is that right? Anvoe, do you agree with the... Yeah, he's...

Damn, he put himself in the line of fire. Yeah, he opened his mouth. He'll split that shit. You got it. You got it. No, anyway, so... You put it on the board. So anyway, so the... Is it really that big of concern to you? What? Like whether or not next year is a good year?

Like what determines for you? Mm-hmm. What? I mean, I just like to compete. So I really, I've obviously preferred to have the game be good and compete in it, but I just enjoy competing in general. You love con. I mean, if you have a good game, it just makes it more enjoyable for us to compete in.

Like, if you have a bad game, like, we're still competing, but, like, we might not even like competing in that game. Getting on to practice every day feels like a chore if it's a bad game. If it's a good game, you're like, oh, I like playing this game. It's fun to practice every day, now? And even the pros talk about it. Now there's like no eights or anything that go on at night at all. Yeah, nobody plays this game.

Yeah, that's a bad sign. That is such a bad sign. Everyone just, like, play scrimms and then plays like league play. And then like, there's maybe eights like twice a week. I mean, I'm part of the problem, too. I don't play eights or lead play, but like, it's so boring. I'm going to play baller in. Yeah.

I'm going to play Valeron. I get my reps and scrimms and like, I know what I'm fucking doing, you know. I don't need to play AIDS, but no one wants to play the game. Like that's a bad sign. That is a bad sign. And look, is it a sign of the times? I don't know. All I know is that we're going to continue to do what we always try to do.

Well, and you know, it's a carry call duty. Well, it's also, it's kind of. Put it on our shoulders and just fucking push the continent now. It's gone. It's kind of unfair too because like COVID did happen and I can side or I can see the other side of like the studios, everything's done remotely. They're not, you know, as interconnected. as they would be at the offices and stuff.

So it probably is hard to make as good of a game if you don't have all the tools necessary. But like, I mean, it just reflects on, you know, viewership. I'm assuming numbers. I don't know the numbers. I mean, I see the numbers. We've got to report every single week and it's just, I don't know. I don't know what we need to do.

I see some organizations trying to create the content, trying to at least do their part. And I, you know, I tip my hat to them because it's not only, not easy, but it's also resources that you have to allocate to something. So I don't know. Hopefully, hopefully we can continue to push on this. Hopefully next year it'll be better. It feels like I've said that shit for the last decade.

I mean, it's the same thing with God. Come on. Listen, since 2006, let me, let me tell you, since modern warfare two, there hasn't been a single time in which I've signed on to, to call the duty and I felt like a kid. Call of Duty two was my first thing. I fell in love with it. amazing. Call Duty 3 sucks the shit.

Didn't play it. Then Mono Warfare comes out. The game changes forever. Then World at War and we're like, man, that's pretty cool. Still better, whatever. And then Modern Warfare 2 comes out and then everybody loses their shit. Everybody's like, everyone's happy. Everything's the best in Call of Duty's ever been. Since then,

when has there ever been a time where you've been really thrilled about it? Aside from Warzone, this war zone, I haven't felt anything. I don't want to play any of that unless it's competitive, and I'm not saying that I want to play GBs because it's fun. I just want to play because it's competitive and I'm beating someone. Warzone, I like play Warsone because it's fun. I like playing it a lot and I like play it with my friends.

That's why I'm having fun. But aside from that, man, like I'm not fucking thrilled. Like I don't see anything that's being announced that I'm fucking super hyped about. I mean, it's the same thing every year. Cod comes out. Everyone's hype. You know, everyone plays it for a couple weeks and then it slowly just drops, drops, drops, drop, drop, drop, drops. and then, I mean, it's the cod cycle.

And then they show the trailer of the new cod. Everyone gets hype again for the new cod, and then everyone gets their hopes up. It drops. Everyone plays it, plays, plays it. Yeah. They get sick of it. Drops, drop, drop, drop, drops.

It's just like a roller. It just keeps going up and now. There hasn't been, like, a constant year. There hasn't been a constant year where everyone, like, loves the game the whole year for fucking. I don't even know. That's going to be a hard thing to do either way, but like, I mean, the last cut.

The last cut is super boring. Yeah. It sucks even more because, like, we're playing it, like, strictly competitive. Like that's all we're thinking about it. Yeah. Like you're hopping on, like, thinking like, yeah, I'm just going to have some fun today or whatever. But like, I get on the first thing.

I'm like, all right, I got to play this game the whole year. I hope it doesn't suck. Yeah. That's your mindset now going into Kahn. Yeah. I mean, that's how it always is. If a game sucks, I'm sure you feel the same way about Halo. If you get Halo and you play it the first day, you're like, uh-oh.

This is going to be a long year. You know, it's like you same thing. That was HALC. Luckily, uh, HACS cut me short, so didn't have to play it too long. Yeah. But yeah, I feel like- You got another chair out there? Warzone just completely overshadows it, but let's move on.

Let's move on, indeed. I do, I will say this before we move on from that topic. Like, if it wasn't for the group that we're working with right now, the ownership group they're working with right now, if it wasn't for the league and the people that work there, like I would have zero faith in this thing even having a shot. But I think that if we put our heads together, I think that we can figure it out.

All right. College athletes now are able to make money off of their likeness. Eastport team picking up athletes, Barcelona picking up athletes. Look, it's, it's, it's been a thing, right? I've talked about it since I started the eavesdrop podcast every single time that I interviewed an athlete. I talked about how evil the NCAA was, how March Madness is a billion dollar segment in a

year. It's like March Madness is a billion dollar industry and the players playing get no money out of that. Some of these players didn't have food to fucking eat while these corporations, the NCAA being one of them making billions of this thing. It's like fucking slavery. It's fucked up. So now, finally, the tide has fucking turned. And I'm not going to say it was all because of esports and Twitch and all that shit, but it had something to do with it. Because if you were an NCAA athlete who streamed on Twitch, you got donations and you got payment, that's payment. That's you

receiving payment. And instead of going against it and shutting people down, they enacted some change. So instead of like shit talking here and talking on, let's just ignore all the negative shit, learn from it. But let's celebrate the fact that now people can make money off of their own likeness. Scump, if you would have gone to college, right? You chose to play for Optic at the right age of 17, 17, 18, something around there, right at high school? I think so. All right. So Scump could have been a, I don't know, could you have gone pro?

I mean, not pro, but could you have played a college ball? Maybe like D3. Yes. I mean like, whatever. I didn't play enough high school to even give you a solid. The point is here, okay? The point is this. If scump would have gone on to play baseball or football or whatever in college

while still being scump in gaming and being paid what he fucking gets paid, that the college would have had a problem with it. Whoa, well, well. Back then I did not get paid. Okay, yeah, you're right. And then you met Papa and Papa took care of that. Back then I was lucky if I was making a couple grand. Yeah.

Oh, God. Imagine making a couple of grand a month to play video games. God. Yuck. Not a month. Not a month. Okay. A year?

Don't spend it. Anyway, the point is that. Straight passion. The point is, I mean, we all did it. The point is that that would not have been fair. And what's going to happen? Is the college going to lose out on a big personality, a recruitment tool for their college to to just not allow them to make money of his own personal thing?

And for them to be the only ones? No. Anyway, change is here. now they're able to monetize their likeness now they're able to bring some additional cash some side hustles which is good how this rolls out and how this

ends up affecting their actual college career from an athletic standpoint or an academic standpoint can they do whatever like apparel yeah fucking I guess streaming and all that stuff has always been allowed for them no no was it not allowed for them

at one point I think so I think it was not allowed but people still did it and instead of go look I don't know the ins and out but instead of figuring like figuring out that fight how do we tell them not to stream and make money right that's what happens like I can't help it if I make money by just playing video games for my friend yeah yeah yeah yeah no again dude they weren't even allowed to work i don't think Matt can are they allowed to work like a like uh like uh like as a waiter because you're making money then oh it's just off of their likeness all right I mean it shows that I've watched they're allowed to work yeah but like that's not like D1 schools that's like last chance you so they do a work study jobs I

don't know it's just that the horrors that I've heard about this shit like summer without limitations academic right let's let's just move on from there anyway so Barstool got hit up El Presente David Day Trader Dave Portnoe got hit up by some athletes is hey now that we're allowed to make money for likeness do you can I be a sponsored athlete from from, you know, barstool athlete. What does that mean? Nobody knows. What are the economics behind it?

I don't know. Is it just a merch thing that they get to both monetize? Whatever. Either way, Davey, Dave Trader made a big, big deal out of it. So much so that people were like, let's do what Dave. No, just not talking shit about anyone. I'm glad that people are doing this. I'm not making fun of Nate Schott.

Certainly not. That's my brother. But people are out there now recruiting people, right? which is fine by me. I mean, it's been done forever. Now, whether you are picking up actual athletes as an e-sports organization or are you picking up

e-sports collegiate athletes as an esports organization, that remains to be seen. So, I don't know, I'm just glad that that thing's done and over with. I'm glad that they're able to monetize that. What do you think about that? Good for them. Should we pick up college athletes or college e-sports athletes?

probably college esports athletes because I don't know what a college athlete unless they played video games would really do for a gaming organization well I don't probably play video games a lot of them probably well that's what I'm saying

but like if you get one that's not playing video games at all it's like as long as I mean it's cool but as I mean I don't know I think it can make sense I don't know like again how are how are they getting paid is it an internship is it just merch only

because I do I'm I'm super cool with giving the optic athlete group exclusive optics shit that only they get the same way that you guys used to get the white jerseys only they would get like exclusive like you guys couldn't even... I see nothing exclusive in a minute I'm saying that's true

that's true we're a humble startup humble startup what what about those Lul Leland Pants that I bought those are fire exclusives nobody else ask those they don't have the logo on it they will all right let's I'm wearing Lululemonin's right All right.

So, I don't know. I'm happy about it. I'm happy that, that, uh, there's that. I saw, I saw John from 100, 100 thieves this morning tweet out that they are enacting a mandatory one week vacation to all of their staff that doesn't impact their personal times off. Damn, I haven't seen a one week vacation in a minute. I haven't seen a one week. We didn't have to wait. Yeah.

Last two weeks. Yeah. Sitting on our houses. Yeah. It was your choice. sitting in your house. You could have taken Is to Hawaii like I said you should.

No, you didn't. I didn't even know we had time off. I think that like... Yeah, it just kind of happened. Yeah, because we weren't supposed to at the beginning of the year. Because we have six, 16 weeks in a row.

So you need a real vacation. The thing, that's the people. The thing there... I'm glad that 100 thieves is doing that. I'm happy that that's the way that they're moving. And it doesn't affect their personal time. So if you get two-week vacation, that doesn't get fucked by that.

And they're doing it at the beginning of summer for one week and in December for one week. Nice. It's good. Guys, what do you guys think about that? You guys want to take some time off? Yeah? Huh?

Yeah? You guys want to take some time off? Okay. All right up the champs. Everybody gets a week off. We should all take a vacation. Like, if I take a vacation, brother, you better believe it's not going to be with you or anyone here.

I'm going to take a vacation for fucking all of you. Yeah. Like if all of Optic went to like Hawaii or something. On whose time? Cancun. On your time, money. Yeah, everything. Treat us.

It'd be a great time. I would gladly, we'll gladly take everybody on a fishing trip to the mountains of Sinaloa. If we win champs. Huh? If we win champs? Dude, if I, if I, have I ever said you better win or something? Oh. You definitely have.

What, to you guys? To Hela? That just sounds like something you would have said multiple times. You guys better win? Yeah. What? I've told you you better win. When have I ever told you you better win?

You said don't fucking chook. Well, not or else, but like, you know, like better win the shit. Did you win it? I don't remember. No, I didn't. Didn't fucking work. What's up, man? Y'all still ain't winning.

Like, someone need to replace. Like, come on. What the fuck? That to you. That sounds exactly like something you said back in the day. The way that I would position it because I'm a smart man, I'll be like, look, I'm not saying that there needs to be changed. I'm actually going to rescind that statement. You haven't said anything like that.

Yeah, but you're like, go get him, you know, like, and then you smack my ass, I'm like, yeah. You're like, you can't get out. He does it. I'm like, whoa. Oh, man. All right, rumor has it to LeBron James is going to have a skin in Fortnite. LeBron has been expanding his portfolio in business,

base jam, HBO show. Now, Fortnite thoughts. I mean, LeBron's doing what every athlete in a position of, in his position should be doing, right? Expanding the kingdom, right? Expanding the empire. We, we ain't just sitting around here just, you know. When does Space Jam come out?

Did you see the first one? I feel like it's going to be so extra. Like, I feel like it's going to be like the first space jam is good. I feel like this one there's going to be like, it's going to be super extra. I don't know. What do you think? I don't know. I didn't watch the first one. You haven't watched the first space share.

It's got MJ in it. You're literal. Exactly. You have a shrine to him. I've seen it. You have an altar in your closet. No, not in my closet. Yeah, I've seen you in there with like sage.

So that should tell you everything that you need to know about me And whether or not I watch that cartoon But it's got MJ in it Yeah, I don't care And it's not cartoon MJ, it's real MJ No, I know, I still wouldn't give a shit You haven't seen Spatian, that's crazy That's crazy, really surprising

That's a classic good movie What's surprising is that I learned how to draw off a Looney Tune character So that, if I was going to watch it It'd be because of Looney Tunes It's not my thing That's not my thing Are you going to watch the new one? No.

The LeBron one? No. That's kind of real. No. Listen, I watch LeBron's. I watch LeBron. Like, look, I don't hate LeBron at all. Like, I watch his shit.

I watch the barbershop. I watch, like, the shit that he's in. I only dispute the lies that this generation is putting forth about him being better than Michael Jordan. That's all. Okay? That's it. I like LeBron. I think that he's one of the best ever.

Absolutely. okay we're always gonna have those arguments yeah of course yeah yeah we're gonna I can't wait to have these arguments when people are like uh yeah you know Seth Seth's definitely the goal right like no one can touch him you know but a Beasy is like ooh I'm like no the Beasiness prime is not gonna be better than this company's prime you know what I'm not even close Abe yeah so anyway that sort of that sort of conversation that sort of that sort of thing it's always gonna happen I can already see him just this little hair. Just, you love me.

They're a clown. Yeah, good people, good people. I don't know. All right, so let's take a quick break, the 30 minute mark. Who wants to read the ads? I'll read the ads. Let's go. Two out of three men will experience some form of hair loss by the time that they are 35.

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Right? So the public can go? Yeah, the public can go. It's going to be at the USC Gaelin Center. It's, yeah, it's announced today. Look at that. I'm hype. My question is like USC doesn't have a hotel near near there.

So. Wait, is. So we stay in the doors. Why are you shaking your head? Have you seen it? Stay in the dorms. So it's kind of chance. I've seen.

I just, you and I were looking for it. Yo, beer bomb? Like, dude, I got to. fucking much. You're going to play tomorrow. Beer ball? You're not going to be in the door? You see a guy in a Trojan's outfit, just walking around?

Yeah, I think, I think the majority of them, look, bottom lines, you can't walk there from your hotel. You're going to have to get a shuttle. And of course, we're going to have to wrap it. Now, the thing, wrap the shuttle, like opting with your faces, like an, like an optic shuttle. It's a little extra. Yeah, that's how I like to do things.

Yeah, it sounds super. But I love that it's at the Gailin Center. USC, we were, we went to UCLA in Blackups for. So it's dope. We keep going to see colleges. Yeah. You know, I never had a college experience, so I think it's pretty cool. Me either.

Especially a big college like that. Hey, bring that shit right here, Hosephel. This is. So is Scott Chance's going to be the- Bring that up, Matt, on the thing? What is it? There's four. All right.

Is God chance going to be the first event with an audience? East Central downtown. Or with fans. These are all not walkable distance, though. I am looking at the map, dog. Look at a map, no. I'm looking at the map. I'm looking at the map.

You're already trying to figure out hotels since it's been announced for 35 seconds. Yeah, somebody has to do that. The people don't get the chance. You're just talent. I hope to grow up one day. Wait, where? That's pretty close.

Where? Oh, where? You guys. It's like two blocks, three blocks. It's got, it's, it's, okay, let me ask you this. Remember the London one where we stayed and where you had to walk? At the hotel?

Yeah, that's the same distance. That's not that bad. Staying at the mall and having, having to walk all that. I mean, yeah, it's not that bad. I probably walk it during the, walk it during the day, Uber it during the night. Just take no chance. Wait, we cut through there.

Look, that's not that far. Yeah, this cut through. They have a mile in the heat. What? Let's leave the campus. Oh. Oh, is it a mile? Oh, yeah, I'm Uber.

If you took that route. Yeah, look, the thing is that the USC hotel is, is not available. I guess I'm yelling at you guys having already done the research, because I already knew all this information. and you guys are just the public, not knowing, you see something. You don't know if their attention there. Anyway, Maddie, bring it back. Anyway, I'm hype about it. I'm glad that they're letting the public back in.

Are you guys excited about it? Is that going to be the first event with public back in? That's going to be the green wall gets to be the green wall again. I don't think people remember what the green wall felt like. And I'm sure that they're going to remind them what it felt like. It's going to be awesome. We're going to finally be able to feel the stage shaking a little bit. the the being able to hear the crowd through the headsets a little bit you know everyone getting

hype Matt was like I can't wait I got a little tease last year I remember Matt was like wait where some funny shit at London uh-huh he was like I love it when I'm frying but if I get turned on and you hear everyone like oh it's like it goes both ways but yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be awesome I wonder how many how many people are going to be allowed I don't know yet but I hope a bunch. All right. Let's see here. I don't know about the top top top eight. What do you guys think? Top 12 or eight? Top eight. Top eight. If it, okay, so I've had this discussion way too many times. So if we, if there was a shred of hope for every team to be there at the start of the year,

then it would be different. But they told us at the very beginning of the year, even before the year, I think, that only the top eight are going. So don't get bottom four. It's that easy. Yeah. Like you knew the whole fucking year. it's not a surprise now and it's we obviously went back to land so it's like people are like well this was land you know some teams got better

some teams got worse blah blah blah for the most part though it's all pretty much the same I mean the placings were pretty much the same but it's like you need the whole time if we're gonna have like a format where we have league matches the whole year then there only needs to be top eight teams at champs because then like it gives people incentives a try

otherwise I just lose every league match and I'm starting winners but last year it's just a whole a whole structural mishap from the CDL. Like at this point in the year, the bottom four teams can't make it. Yeah. So it's like every match that they're in a match,

people are going to be like... Not caring? Yeah, everyone's already clinched for champs. So now everyone's only playing for the major. And like, that's obviously still important, but people don't really care about that as much. Like, if there was a couple matches that like dictated if you're going to champs or, you know what I'm saying?

It'd be way more hype than you're already through. They're already through. this is just for the last major there should be like a last chance qualifier where like the top seven teams are solidified but then the bottom five are like fighting for that eighth spot

so like the eighth seed gets like a one round by the nine through 12 play a one and I like that yeah they definitely should do something like that that would keep the other team that would make it interesting to watch the other teams I'm with that and think about like I would totally watch

the last five who are trying to sing one team make it, I would watch like a round Robin to see. I would watch the shit out of that. I mean, yes and no though. Okay. I mean, it's just it's a fluky. It is a wave to get in, but it's also a fluky you know, like if you're

one of those bottom five teams, you're relying on a single elimination tournament to get into champs. It's like, it goes both ways. Instead of a whole year of seeing you know, who's the best teams, you have just one and done. See, that's fluky. Yeah.

which is like that's where it's, but instead you have 30 matches. Yeah, if you're the aced team, you're like, I know we're better than these teams and then you. And now we have to play them and we lose a three, too, like last half. And say you have like a bunch more points than them or however CDL works. Yeah, exactly. No, we deserve this top eight seed. Like, and then 12th place is just on fire for that.

Yeah. I just don't think there should be league matches at all. I think that every single tournament should be a turn. There should be like eight tournaments throughout the year based on points. And that's it. With all the teams. Yeah, with all the teams. I agree. I don't, I'm personally not a fan of the format that we have right now.

Because this format. Can you give me MLG back? We don't, we don't get any break. We fucking play matches every single week. Like, we had a week break during the year and it was like, holy shit, thank God. At the very end of the year. We were like, yes, a year to reset finally. Yeah, but even then, like you guys were also complaining at the fact that there was no tournaments for about seven months. Yeah, we, I would love if the format was just every team there, tournaments. Give me, give me your idea.

scenario as to how you would like this league to to to operate from a tournament perspective yeah yeah yeah I mean tournaments yeah but I just don't think that's realistic but then league matches make it more I mean league matches make it more consistent in my opinion because you obviously have just a wider playing you know a wider field of games so it's not like you're just going to a tournament you know if you place bad at like one or two tournaments you could already shoot yourself in the foot yeah league matches it's like if you lose league match not the end of the world yeah so it's like it's good

It's good repetition, but also it's too much repetition. Yeah. No, I think an MLG sort of... And it's too many days. An MLG traveling circus should have always been the thing, right? I agree. Right? But there's only 12 teams.

So it's like, how do you produce something like that where you don't have 32 teams that are actually in like the champ bracket? You know what I'm saying? Maybe they do something like what they didn't be O'4, where even if they want to have the league matches online, we do like a two-week spurt of like half the teams or even all. the teams and then the next time it comes around you do like one week and you like kind of alternate so there's like

two weeks off and then you have one week off in between you know what I'm saying? Just like the land league but not on land yeah I don't know right now it's just like we we really don't have time to do like anything else which kind of sucks yeah well I think I think as we build this thing out

it's going to get get easier let's well wait for we'll find the right way I can scroll up I'd love to just have last question that's the question the fuck is that i'd love to just have like 10 tournaments next year we fly to like 10 different cities but then it's like then then the cdl franchise is getting mad if their team isn't one of the two tournaments so it's like you know yeah i don't know it's a it's a hard balance so something something's got to give something has to figure something

out but this current format is the the only question that we have from the audience for this episode by someone that said, they went digging for this one. Yeah, they said, who's the most annoying player to play against them? We're not answering that. And I want you guys who are watching this to step your game up. Okay, ask some good questions. What is that? God damn it. It's a pretty common question.

It's so common. I like that question. Why? I don't know. Just like who has... Who has finesse? I guess sort of like a spectator fan point of view. Huh? I have my answer. Yeah, I think so. Instantly. All right, fuck it. Answer it then, I guess.

Shatty. Hate playing that. How about this? Shottie's annoying to watch because I know what it would be like playing against that. I'm just like, it's just annoying. He's a little rat. He's got good finesse. Here's what I'm going to do.

Okay. Here's what I'm going to do. Next time for the next one. If I pick your question. Was your Shotty too? Or if Matt or the team picks your question, we're going to send you a t-shirt. An exclusive? Should we do an exclusive t-shirt?

An Optic Podcast T-shirt? Abe's an Octet podcast Yeah, Abe's an eager challenge I got my answer I got my answer Optic podcast T-shirt How about that?

All right So if we pick you next week You get one The more the merrier We gave an honorable mention To Neptune Oh Neptune So Halo players

He's annoying too HALO players Are annoying to play against Or just annoying I think Halo players Sort of just know How to stay alive Or like

It's just a finesse to it Because in HALO It's sort of all about staying alive Well so does everyone else But their movement Makes it more annoying when you're trying to like chase them or something

just because they're really they have good movement so it's like they're good at staying alive and they have good movement but you can be good at staying alive and just like hiding in a corner and they have like a good sense of timing and stuff mine has always been on point I don't know you have nasty movement no my most literally only one player in cald 34 have better movement than me and his name was detreats aside from that no one no one hopped around like a lemur

from from you know obstacle to obstacle you know what I'm saying C jumps, strafe jumps. No one had it like. And then we gave another one to A, but not in this game because he ego chowels a lot in this game. Other games, he was annoying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it.

Anyway, any closing comments? Are you guys looking forward to the week and you guys had two weeks off? Who do we have first? Paris Thursday. Paris on Thursday. And then New York? New York on Sunday.

All right, are you guys excited about those two minutes? Important first week. Yeah, important first. If we go to O, we set ourselves up in a good spot. Okay. So I'm hoping for 2O. Listen, all right, for the first time, All right, breaking on this podcast.

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