OpTic Podcast - BIGTYMER PLAYING COD AGAIN (MERRY CHRISTMAS) | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 155

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

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Merry Merry Christmas. Welcome back to episode 155 of The Optic Podcast. It's the holiday edition. You're going to have to go ahead and put that thing on. I do. I don't have the head for hats. I really don't either. I kind of do.

Sometimes some hats. I have the perfect head for hat. Some hats are like mad shallow. Like this one is mad is really shallow. So that I think it's pretty well. It fits pretty well. These are vibe you though. You don't want to wear that?

No, man. I'll wear it. You want to wear it? I'll wear it. He's got that one. Send it down to Pam. Last night, Alexis and I were watching like old optic trivias

because she kind of wanted to know like what I used to do because she didn't really know back in the day. That's a lifetime ago. And we were watching one where Will and Hacks are like a team. Will's got this like full head of hair and everything. She was like, is that big timer?

I said, yeah. She was like, he looks really good with no hair. Yeah. My wife says the same thing. She's like, I love that you shaved your head. It's good. So how have, right now we're recording this like two weeks in the past. So these boys just got booted offline by Activision Blizzard.

And Will right now is grinding his ass off in the Call of Duty, Mono Warfare Z, which is the zombies experience. And Hamage is still riding that high of the GGCS victory. So. Well, you're grinding zombies will. Say what? You're grinding zombies? Every day.

Really? Yeah. I probably like once a die. You just like, oh, you just enjoy it? Or are you getting camos? Yeah. I didn't know what to think at first, but like the more I've gotten into it, it's legit. Dude, it's so, it's so good.

Wait, really? There's no waves or anything like that anymore. I haven't played it, but like, I don't think I really liked their concept. I didn't either. Like the open world, but it works? It's amazing. Really? It's way better than all the other zombies.

It really is. And I love round-based zombies, but like, I didn't think it was going to be hard at first, because I just went into like the tier one zone and then you eventually find out that like oh shit it gets real like the more you move into the map yeah it's it's dope I haven't I've only been I haven't done like a lot because I've just been like grinding for the I'm trying to get both like zombies mastery camos

okay like bioluminescent and uh borealis so that's why I started playing it and then so I don't even go like detailed in but I started watching will's videos and I'm like dude there's so much to do I'm activating the big worms and shit trying to do the Easter egg. Dude, the first time I saw you, like, go, like, into the fifth dimension. Yeah, the dark ether. I was like, what the hell?

I kind of want to play it now. I didn't realize it was like, I don't know. It just seemed like, it seemed like war zone by zombies. No, you would really like it's more like DMZ. But zombie, if you played DMZ, I had never played it until they did the haunting event for DMZ. I don't know if y'all played that by like Halloween. There was essentially, it was DMZ you fall in, but there were like these boss, like Halloween characters that you would go kill. And I thought it was sick.

And that's essentially what zombies is. But it's got like contracts, Easter eggs, like all the different wonder weapons and schematics that you can only use like once every day or something. So you're essentially grinding these contracts to get the schematics for like the Raygun or the Wonderwaffe or like the fucking new. That's kind of cool.

Ether blade. It's sick. I mean, if it got you back on, Codd. That's what I'm saying. That was hard to do. Yeah, I've been trying for 10 years to get him back on. I just needed MWZ. That's all I was.

Just whar. Go. No. It is super sick though. Have you played it at all? I have not. No. Do you guys have Interstellar or? Normally I would by this time. I'm not a camo grinder.

Like before the game came out, I talked to big game. Like, oh yeah, content, I can grind it. And pubs just fucking infuriate me. Especially in the new gen pubs where it's like you're to complete these challenges and it's like, you've got to use a shotgun to unlock an SMG attachment. Like, I miss like the 1V1 cage match, but I can just type, like, your clan tag was like HS question mark, headshots. You'd meet in the middle, you'd go just back and forth.

It was worth of good days. I have platinum ARs, that's it. Yeah, I have, that's why I'm not doing the intercellar one. Just because, like, playing against real people is infuriating. But the zombies grinds is really fun. It's super fun. Can you get it from only playing zombies or you've got to do multiplayer? Yeah, you only, so the two mastery camos, there's two zombies mastery camos.

One's Borealis, which I think Matt just had up. It's the I think it's the coolest mastery camo we've ever had in Ka. And you get it just by grinding zombies? Yeah, just by doing zombies.

Oh, I might have this shit. But not if you've got to do like specific. Oh, that is sick. You have to do specific stuff. Okay. And then there was no

model warfare zombies for, uh, for mono for two. So all the model for two guns also have their own camo as well, which is called bioluminescent. And that's the one I really want. Oh,

that shit goes crazy. But, oh, wait, the NW2 game, like, you can use those camos in NWZ? Yeah, so if you get... And then you can unlock a different camo for those. So this is the, this, this right here is bioluminescent. That reminds me like Godzilla.

Dude, it's so sick. And the, like, the little, like, neon balls, like, they fall down the gun. Wait, real quick, on Godzilla. Have you guys seen Godzilla minus one? The new Godzilla? I have not. Oh, my God. Is it good?

Yeah, it's like. I saw it in theaters with James and JP but it's in Japanese so it's subtitles. Were you guys? Were you guys sober? Yeah. I love subtitles. Like I'm always watching with subtitles. Same. Dude, this Godzilla movie was unbelievable. Really? You guys forgot, dude, I was

like, I wasn't to say I was doubting it, but I didn't think it'd be that good and it was just incredible. I'm Loki kind of, I'm kind of like a hater when it comes to. Damn, that looks sick. That, dude, that shit is so fire. Wait, what do you hate about it, though? No, I'm a hater when it comes to movies that don't

have like plots usually it's just like action now you'd like this I think you think is that I'd have a plot I'd be shocked if you didn't like this does it have a plot yeah I mean like is the plot we have there's Titans and you have to kill one of them and the other one has to stay alive and then the other one helps the humans kill the other no not at all okay I was like that's the plot no no no it's not like it's not like the it's like it's like every Godzilla so it's I think it's the original Japanese company who originally made this the Godzilla movies okay this is like their newest Godzilla movie.

And it's separate from like the Godzilla Kong universe. Yeah. So it's like it's a standalone film. Oh shit. There's a Netflix one I started watching too. It's not just Godzilla, but it is. A monarch? Yeah.

Is it Apple TV? Yeah. It's like the legacy of monsters. Is it good? Yeah, it's actually pretty good. This guy loves Godzilla. No, no, no. No, no.

I just love TV and movies. And I'm caught up on slow horses and a murder at the end of the world. And I was looking for something last night. Wait, that? Oh, that's okay. Yeah, that looks more. The first one does not look like. Yeah, it's actually no bad.

I haven't seen it in a couple of weeks. I don't know if more episodes came out or what, but yeah, it's good. And that's about Godzilla, like the Godzilla? Not just Godzilla, but there's other, like, monsters. Is there like a lot more monsters? Yes. Like, I know the moth. I know the Godzilla.

I know. King Kong. I think this might have King Kong in it. Mothra. There's a few other ones? I don't know. I've only seen like two or three episodes, so we haven't seen. all the stuff, but yeah, it's good.

You guys just spoil it out. Now we started watching Sweet Tooth on Netflix. We were just looking at stuff. It's like, it's almost like the last of us. It gives you like last of us post-apocalyptic, but they're like hybrid babies. Essentially, it's called the sick and it's like a post-apocalyptic, this virus killed a bunch of people,

but also at the same time there's these baby animal hybrids. So like the main character, he's like half deer, half human. But it's like I said, very, yeah. Yeah, that's the kid. It's good. It reminds me a lot of the last of us. Yeah, he meets like a guy. I won't ruin everybody. It looks like the fawn or something like that from the line, the witch, and the wardrobe. Yeah, there's a little elephant. And normally I'm not into like super fantasy shit like that, but it's, yeah, it's good.

Is it like an adult show? Or is it like kind of? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Because I remember, I used to watch the 100, and I remember like halfway through season one of the 100, I was like, man, this is a kid show. I, like, I can, I kept myself watching. No, CW shows, they all started off great and they all go to shit. Like Flash, Arrow. Yeah. Dude. Arrow's horrible.

Well, no. Arrow's horrible. No, but the first two seasons of each were great. And then they just hit their, for some reason when they become popular, they just like slash the budget and they become terrible. Yeah, it's just like the budget. The acting is all just like, well, Arrow had like nothing but like 10 out of 10 people. So like all hot ass people.

But like the, the, I feel like the. I feel like the dialogue was just really bad I like the first couple seasons but sorry to take us off from the Godzilla tango No you're fine I like talking about it I'm telling you it's good TV shows I've heard a lot about Godzilla

Godzilla like the one The company that you were talking about That does like the Titans like Godzilla versus King Kong and stuff like that Like those seems like they'd be very fun to like Maybe get high too and then watch Oh yeah I don't know that

Is Godzilla like DC? Godzilla gives off major DC vibes But it's like not really I don't think he's not really I don't think he's in the DC universe. Well, he's not like a SuperHare. Anything like that? I don't know why.

Godzilla and Batman versus Superman. You just made like a dope movie. Does that sound so bad? No, it sounds great. Batman's on Godzilla's back. Just fucking. You did watch it stone, didn't. Like, do Batman should be in this, bro.

Batman would be crazy. That should be in this. It's a great idea. Do you remember how bad the Warzone special event was with Godzilla and King Kong? Oh my God. I didn't play that, no. It was. Horrible.

It was bad. What were the best war zone events? The zombies won. The haunting, right? The haunting, dude. The first one is fire. The first one in Vernansk, dude. You can like jump super high, right?

Yeah. Yeah. The haunting Vrdasque was good. I was getting jump scare. I was shitting myself. You're in like the last zone and it's you versus another team, but there's like 30 zombies. Yeah. And they're all humans.

Just like, ah. That was good. Braggs. And is that, I think that's what I like about. I've only played like three games of Warzone this year, but I really like the map because I I played so much. zombies. And it's,

I like the fact that they like turn the, uh, the map to like nighttime. That's what I liked about that. Okay. That's what I mean, in zombies, it's kind of like dusk,

I guess. Yeah. I thought that was the weirdest part. I didn't realize it was the exact same map. Yeah. When I fell into war zone, but it's so weird falling in like the tier three zone. And it's just bright everywhere.

Yeah. It doesn't have that like red overtone. But the map's good. I, it's a great amount. I like, have gone into tier three like once. So that whole part.

of the map I have no idea where is where it's right everywhere else I'm like oh dude I used to exfieling here earlier you playing solo or yeah go just solo so like tier three it's it's fucking hard yeah possible yeah okay it's probably if you ever played round base zombies tier three is probably like around 40 or 50 zombies oh wow and then past that is like you know it's just fucking hard like you just can't even shoot the zombies you literally just have to find a route and run yeah unless you have like the best guns and the game makes sense yeah I hope that they continue to like build off of it do you think round-based zombies is done now fuck it might be I don't know I feel like they weren't expecting it to

be this good because the new update came out and there's literally one mission in the act four thing like everybody was waiting on the season one update and they did some stuff for the easter egg but there's only one mission so I feel like they just weren't ready for it to blow up and then it did and now they're like scrambling trying to figure out content to do for it so it's a huge I got people grind in it? Dude, I think people, because when they announced it, I think a lot of people were upset.

They were. There was a outrage. Everyone was like L, L, L, L. Like, out of everything, that was like their least, LLLL. That was like their least favorite thing. They were like, why are you trying to make zombies in a DMZ?

We want round base, fun zombies. But now you're saying everybody's, they just made, because I think what DMZ was lacking was like that feel of, of like, that Tarkov feel that,

Have you ever played like Tarkov or any sort of extraction? I've always been a cod gamer my whole life. So in Tarkov, like, you go in, you get all, you get all your loot, and then like the anxiety levels rise when you try to get out. Yeah. And if you die, you lose all your shit. In DMZ, you go in, and if you die, you just have to wait a little while before you can go back in.

And it just didn't feel that hard either. Like it just, it didn't give you the anxiety, but like, dude. Wait, now do you lose your stuff if you don't make it out? Yeah. Yeah. Damn. No, zombies is like, what zombies is, is like, I feel like it's what they were trying to accomplish with DMZ. Yes.

It's the perfect vehicle for that DMZ mode. Well, it just sounds like, it sounds like a call duty thing. Like regular DMZ where like they let you keep your stuff. That's just like a, that's, that's cater to the casual. 100%. Like, we don't want these guys to stop playing because they lose their shit. So we'll let them keep it. And that, but that kind of ruins the mode because isn't the whole point of DMZ like that extraction point?

Yeah. Like you want to, and it, and DMZ was PVP, right? Yeah. That's the thing with zombies is not PVP. So like, if you drop into the map, there's like nine other people. What? Like nine or 10 other people on the map. So like if somebody that you're not even partied up with them, if they like die, you can go res them.

Oh, really? Or like every one. Or team up with them. You can party up with people in the game. Yeah. It's really cool. Like I was just doing cam. I was just camo grinding.

So I'm just, I'm in like the easiest part just shooting regular guns at zombies. And this guy drives by and drops off like a like a schematic for a ray gun. and says, hey, I got this. I don't need it. Do you want it? And I'm like, yes. That's the weird part is everybody's like strangely nice. Dude, everyone is so nice in the dump.

Drop you the dopeest shit. Like come res you. Yeah, that's good. Have you ever gotten the, the mimic glitch? Is it like where it kills you immediately? Like when it comes out of the box or whatever? So there's a, yeah, when it comes out of the, yeah, yeah. When it comes out of the box, it grabs you and then you turn into the mimic.

But you can't move. I have not gotten that. Dude, I clipped it. It was terrifying. Really? Yeah, because it came out of the box and then it grabbed me and then the map glitched out. And then I was first person view of the mimic. The fuck.

Oh, is this the glitch? No way you found the glitch. I turned into a mimic. Dude, this happened to me. So he's hit. Oh, he hits this box. So he hits the box. It grabs you and then you turn into the mimic.

And then you can't move at all. Oh, you can't do anything. And you, it walks around and you're, in its body. Like it can you really are controlling the mimic. No you're you're you're you can't move at all. Oh, okay. Yeah, you're just stuck. Yeah, you're just stuck and it'll move around and it'll go because it makes like the craziest noises. Nice. And so yeah, I lost all my shit one time because that happened. That sucks. Um, but yeah, I think zombies is incredible. I think I think you, you guys would probably enjoy it too. How long do these new zombies games like last? This,

that was another thing people didn't like it first is it's 45 minutes. So you have 40. It's essentially an hour because you have 45 minutes and then a timer starts and it's basically a storm just like a battle royale that starts to spread and you have to exfil before the storm engulfs the map so you got about an hour hmm yeah I like it people didn't think it was long enough at first because it is weird like you'll spend the first 30 minutes or 40 minutes like trying to gear up and get all your shit and then you got like five minutes left to do the good shit but there's there's ways to get around it so it's not like how it used to be where you know you would want to keep your progress.

Fuck no. Keep your console on. I'm staying up till 6 a.m. Your fucking ego, the icons. Running circles and shit. That was the worst. You had to pause the game and then sometimes you'd wake up and your fucking console would turn off and you'd just be like,

oh my god. I'm like level like. Or just bump it or something. 40 or something. Disc starts like shh-ch-ch-ch-ch- or no. Because what you would do is you would lay down like a glitch bot, like World That War, like you'd get like one of those glitch spots where they couldn't hurt you.

Yeah. Then you'd wake up and you'd be dead. You'd be, what the fuck. Like how do it happen? Like how? I prepped for this. Yeah. And in this zombies,

I don't know if it was like that, you know, like this and other zombies, but if you get up, because in DMZ and wars and you can climb on everything. So if you get on top of stuff, they'll start like ripping open

their like chest and throwing it at you. Really? Yeah, and that shit hurts worse than them actually like hitting you. I thought they were throwing rocks, but that's what it is. If you look out and they're like ripping their arm off

and they're like ripping out of their own flesh and throwing it at you. And if it hits you, it like cracks your, armor. It's looking crazy. It's super intricate. And like you said, I don't, I think they threw it together kind of, it's

similar to how they threw together the campaign. Yeah. Because the campaign was dude, it's like horrible. Oh, it's so bad. Worst kind of campaign I've ever played. Damn. The IMDB. Can you look up the IMDB for the

Mono for Three campaign? It can't be good. I mean, it's like, they do reviews? There's like, it's every Cod campaign is like seven and up and this one is like two. It's really bad. So short, so bad. My favorite mission was the sniper one though. I'm not sure if you guys.

That was good. I enjoyed the sniper mission. Other than that, it was really lackluster. 2.6. Damn. That's a lot of ratings, Sue. Or I think I said IMDB. It was probably IGN.

Oh, IGN. Yeah. Yeah, and I think they had the same thing with the zombies. I think they had the bones for DMZ and they're like, Fuck it. Just those zombies in there. Yeah. And it just worked.

Yeah. And they're not like, oh God, I got to make more missions. Like, hold on, it's doing something. Yeah,

that's exactly what I'm. Zombies are walking. Because there's like three, there's like three acts for the campaign technically in zombies. Yeah. But the campaign in zombies is like you do a bunch of like missions, like a little contracts, kind of like bounties and stuff.

But it's for so. And then once you finish those missions, then there's like a, then there's like a campaign mission. So it's a lot. It seems a lot like campaign. Yep. But it just works better.

Just bad. This is not an ad for modern warfare of zombies, but like, I think I've just I've been playing it more than I've been playing anything else. They do need more content though. I'm pretty much to the point where I've almost unlocked everything and I can start to see like over the next couple of days if there's nothing else. Like, what do I do? You're going to have everything.

Yeah. You might have to start doing some like, I did a knife only. run. Yeah, like fists only or some sort of like. That sounds horrible. It does sound horrible. I wonder what like Noah and all them are doing. Like what are they doing? I think even he hasn't streamed the last couple days because I'll go on there and look for ideas and shit. I'll be like, what's Noah doing? But I think even they've ran out of stuff. Yeah. But they always do. I mean, being a zombies YouTuber, it seems like it would be

like, it seems like that would happen a lot. Like at zombies comes out, you, if round base zombies you play you kill it for like a week or two and then you do the easter ag that's it they always do it so fast too i don't understand like i get it you want to be the first like obviously the people who do everything first is like right you're gonna get the views but then once it's done then you're just done like i just want to take my time and like spread it out a little bit so i was purposely trying not to just complete it all in the first day and then be finished yeah so he's already he's already going back to like modded zombies. He's mostly, yeah, he's mostly streaming.

So like his live tab is where most of his content is. Oh, okay. He's a DJ. He's a DJ now. Love that. They're all going to be, everyone's going to be a DJ? Yeah, Noah Jay? Like actually?

Yeah, he's like a, like an actual DJ. Dope. When he's not doing the boss fight, he's DJ. All right, so what about you, man? How was getting DMCAed by Activision? Uh, I mean, we can talk about those now? I mean, I don't really know what there is to say about it.

Did they talk about it? Oh. Okay. Yeah. Let's not talk about it. It's good to hear, though, man. I just cut that. But I'm glad you're back.

So, that was it. What are you guys thankful for this year? Would you see, what are you guys thankful for? Would you guys thankful for this year? I'm just reading the sheet. I just think it was funny that that Pam just found, or Will just found out that Pam won GGCS. I'm still mind-blown over.

Like, you won? Give me some. How many teams are in it? 16, 20? 16. Damn. That's crazy. Monthful of like bracket point matches.

Who'd you play in the finals? We played the Dark Horse. Who? We call them the Dark Horse. So like the team that made it to Grand Finals was a team that was like Owen 1 and 6 or 0 and 7 in map. And then what happened, Davis? and then I had to run a 16 team tournament

and all of the players that said that they would play in all of the matches throughout the whole entire month bailed on me two hours beforehand. If you want to know what it's like, please by all means, try that. You got that.

I just like giving you shit now. Also, the teams are fair. Everyone just choked. No. The teams at the end. The teams are fair. I'm going to bite my tongue. I think their team was fair.

I actually think like their team, Like blast for skies Like blast went crazy But like blast went like ballistic But I still think that's like an okay Like you can do that You can do blast for Caesar Rated for Faye's Blaze

Is fucking nuts But I'm saying zero point like I looked at as Katie is like zero point six Like for the whole thing blaze And then rated comes in and if you look He's like dominates 2.5 Or it's all right Davis you know what I appreciate you always for throwing these tournaments

For us to us to know The community wins the players win I was telling Nick about it in the flycast So basically what happened is All the pro players had to bail Like two hours before the tournament Because of the main tournament Yeah so we had done like a month work of worth of like pool play

Yeah and then two hours before the main tournament All the CDL players bailed Because one was one team was like We're gonna scrim and then once everyone found out They were scrimming everyone else went and scrimmed So I had to find 12 subs It wasn't even like a pressing issue They were just like, we'll scrim today.

Pretty much. That's crazy. But, you know, it is what it is. It's a learning experience. I'll do it at night strictly from now on so that it's not. But regardless, so I found, I had to find 12 subs. That team was so bad that he was like, hey, Blaze can't play either. And meanwhile, I'm trying to find 12 other subs.

So I was just like, bro, like, they had already subbed out Blaze for a different guy. And he was really good too, and they still lost. And so I was like, all right, well, just find someone because I'm busy right now. Yeah. And that came back to bite me in the ass because that team went on a loser's bracket run of a century. They went crazy, dude. And... Dude, those guys were so annoying to play against.

Scoping them? Oh, scope? Oh, no, I'm thinking of the different team, right? You're thinking of a different team. Well, whatever. I played the phase snipers. And I was getting... I was...

Oh, dude. Dude, scope was using the sniper like a fucking SMG. I was raging. I would like outplay him. He's so good. I'd push him, hit him, and then I'd just get quick score or no scope, but I was so mad. And then they would use like three snipers on like scrapyard, so you couldn't cross any lane. Ray would be watching far left.

Scope is far right and then someone's middle. And there's nowhere to go without being sniped. It was like infuriating. Dude, I was so happy we didn't play scrapyard in that grand finals, dude. Like Ray is just, you just run down. Scrapyard would have been difficult. Y'all got a really good, really good map pool for the reset. For the second one?

Yeah, we did. But the way they won, they were down like, so like first map, they win like 6-0. And Blas go, no, they win the first two maps. Blass is going fucking crazy, like acing. They win. They're up 2-0, right? You guys went up 2-0 in the series? Then you guys lost two straight?

I think they only won. The first one? No, no, no. They went up 1-0, and then they went up 4-0 the next map. That's what it was. And lost the map. Oh, yeah. So you guys were dominating.

next thing you know it's a last map they're down like 2-5 there's no vibes in the call it's just everyone's dead and I'm doing this whatever and they went around it's okay then they went into the rounds like oh fuck they were here

and then they all turn up and they win and go nuts a 2-5 comeback they reverse swept they reversed swept in finals they went down 02 in finals came back reverse swept and then in game 5

we're down 2 5 that's fucking crazy can you find Penn's reaction I'll see it I broke like an octave barrier, like, within my voice. And I look back at it. I'm like, I don't remember, I didn't realize I could do that.

Did you sniper? Were you like? I was, like, sniping a lot of the time. But then, like, I knew, like, because I played in, like, turn was like this before. Yeah. And it's just like, I'll always just sniping all them. And I'll just like, I don't know. I was like, man, I need an AR.

Like, I like AR positions because they're just, they're pretty identical to sniping and all that. And I just need to be able to shoot straight and, like, get guaranteed kills. And then Skies text me. He was like, yo, bring up the sniper. Bring out the sniper dude. They'll fucking tweak. He's like, text me and he's like a voice over my shoulder. He's like, do it, dude.

I'm like, damn, you should be here with us right now. I was about to say, he was texting you watching, but he wasn't playing. Yeah, dude. Yeah, he's scrimming, but has you guys on a different one of it. Yeah. Chearing your team on. I love Skies, dude. Yeah, that was.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is it. I love you trying to snake. I love you snaking. So pause it. I can snake, all right. You're defeating yourself? No, no, no, no.

I can snake. I just like there's a part of me that's like I don't like the snaking thing. Like and so you see me just kind of like this is round 11 for a hundred trust me I was staking very like minuscule but I kind of started to feel like an idiot a little bit I was like okay like I know I'm just going to be looking down that yeah yeah like this is kind of I see the last person alive or is there two people so of you one recede to my right okay okay Dude, that was so loud. Blasters was playing shirtless like he was the rock.

Yeah, dude. Ooh, it was a little windy. We fucking won. Dude, that was the funny. That was like genuine reaction. Never gotten up that high before now. That's great. I mean, you've been playing cod for like fucking 20 years or some shit.

That's our fucking. fucking cheddar. That's our fucking cheddar. What did he? What did Blass say? He's like, you can take the rig. Yeah, yeah.

Sorry, Davis. No, that's all good. I actually, in between, whenever they reset the bracket, because we were casting from ESA, and Mace had been home for seven hours or some shit. And I was like, dude, I cannot stay here for two more hours.

Like, I have to go let him out. So Blake and George did the second, did the reset. And I'm on the way home, and you guys go down 02. And my home. heart i literally thought i was going to puke on the way i got home because like i spent a month before it planning all the teams and then a month plan all the even teams of the tournament

and then i make one mistake the day before you never would have heard the end of it too it would have been it all two months worth of work yeah for 150 grand would have just gone down thank god you guys won man dude when you guys won i was like it was the only time one of the only times in my tournaments where I'm actively rooting against a team. And no offense, I love agony, I love dirty. I, I, colors and rated. Yeah, which agony was playing.

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They're just fucking... Two twins, one controller in the turn. Which one is better? I don't know which one's better. I think it's... Dude, I think it's... I think it's Kieran, who's better. Really?

Yeah, I think it's Kieran. All I remember... So, what I know, Agony, they made a Batman montage. I forget, but to this day, it was like the Dark Night or something. Oh, yeah. I remember being a kid, just huge boxers.

You know what a t-shirt? Just like, Dan, that's fucking dope. Did you remember when agony, I need to make a montage? Dude, I have the funny. Okay, so like randomly,

all right, so when I was at the phase house in Toronto, my brother Zach was living in Toronto as well. So I was living there with like me, Nikon, uh, the agony twins. Um,

anyway, so it was like Halloween. I invite my brother over and then he comes over. And Zach, he's been a part of like, he's seen like the community and kind of like, he doesn't know it like that, but he knows some of the shit that went down.

Yeah. And then I guess like, He met agony and then like agony like gave him a drink or something like that and then he looks at that he's like is this real Talking about the triple talking about the triple and then he finally and then he finally clicks and then I realized what he just said to him I'm like exactly you're not even part of this community like why he's saying that That's it was like just the funniest thing ever like the fact that he just randomly brought up that faked triple I don't know I can't believe he still fake this real That's real that would be this really? That's hilarious to that's good. Do you know what we're talking about?

Yeah, I faintly remember it. It was like a... It was like a... It was like a horrible clip. It was. Like, even if it was fake... Like, at least if you fake of it, like a fake clip, fake it well. If I'm faking a clip...

This shit is gonna be something I can never be. It's gonna be a clip. No scope across the Matt triple head. What do you think? Like a triple collat or something? Yeah, it's just aimed down sides and I think he got a collat. And then he edited a third person in the kill feed. Wait, Pat.

Who's the sniper goat besides you, you think? Brett Brett Brett not IREaps No I reaps was not was a guy and uh

I reaps I reaps is the greatest MW2 I reaps was a guy Like All time Like greatest MW2 sniper Or whatever Like anyone who ever tried to touch that game after him

Like oh really? I don't remember that Now that you say it I kind of remember But like I reaps I remember It was like a considered Like he He would

She would do Dool Tages with like This guy named Darkness right? Yep. And they were like... Darkness was I-Reaps? I don't know.

No, then it came out like a couple months or like a couple years later. Darkness was like, yeah, someone just PayPaled me to send them their clips and say I was their boyfriend. Oh, really?

Yeah, so it was just some guy for sure, just a guy. Fuckery of a mess. That's fucking sick. Like, too, why? Like going on like a random scene girl website

taking their photos, picking one, be like, here's a thing? Here's a thing, Pam. is whoever i reaps was was so good there was so there's no way there's no way they're not still doing it so who do you think it was it was fucking phase scope it was scope that's what i'm saying i reaped from scope could you imagine 12 year old scope 12 year old scope was like i'm gonna be a girl

oh my god started hitting because there's no way there's no it's young prodigy yeah no i mean dude scope scope is crazy But, you know, he was like... Or was it testy? Testy could have been Reefs. Who's the best sniper right now? Scope? Probably like, probably scope or fucking...

Do you see Blues clip from the fucking beta? Blue's always been crazy. Yeah, now Blue's always been crazy. It's always been like... It's so hard to say, dude, like... Yeah, I guess it's all like... Because there's got to be like, obviously talent, but there's also some timing and luck in those.

clips because it's like oh yeah your teammates get a kill then you have five people in front of you then you have fucking five man yeah you have to like look at the kill feed you have to look at how many people just died and then you have to assume the right spawn and then you have to hit your shots and you just you're almost always catching them off guard like whenever like if you

see five of them dead or big kill street comes in just go to where you think they're going and you just got to pray to guys shoot shots yeah so it's like to get one clip like that is like hundreds of hours probably yeah or don't you have a quad or is it Blake I have a quad.

We both have a quad. Lucky ducks. B-O-4, right? I have a B-O-3 quad and Blake has an MW3 quad. Quad is what? Quad is four kill, same kill feed? Four and one. Oh, Kalat?

One bullet. Oh, a quad. Oh, damn. Mine was like the luckiest shit ever. I was waiting for vision to render. And I'm just, I'm just playing. I thought I would snite for a game. Yeah, I was just like playing.

And in the clip, in the clip I shoot like a hundred times. and I miss every bullet and then on the one bullet I hit it was four oh my lord and I was just I remember being like

and uh and Blake's what he was playing on drop zone and drop zone is that what it's called drop zone in Mono4 3 yeah yeah and he just was like picking off the spons and quick scoped through

through smoke and hit four and one and so the fake clip was just it was just three it was just I mean it was actually just two it was actually it was like It's a collat and a single, but it was like it was with a gun that you can spray really fast. Yeah. And like sometimes you'll even think that you hit a triple, but he probably just hit a collat in a single.

And he was just like, man, I need one more filler, man. I just need one more filler, bro. It was such an ass class. Was it so easy to see, though, that it was like, that it was fake? I don't know. I don't know how people spotted it. It's like a split frame thing that just doesn't add up. But he admitted it?

Yeah. Damn. I think you did. Oh, my God. Agony fake triples? Oh, this was like, wait, what game? This isn't it. It was on interchange.

I can't believe I know that. Wait, is this it? Yeah. Oh, this is it. Is this one? I thought it was on interchistry. I mean, I see three people. There's three people, but like, you know, it's the crop.

It's the blur. And it's like, it's the frame, like kind of in it. This is it. This is the one I was talking about. Oh, that's right. Yeah. This is the one I was talking about. Can't tell what the fuck I'm looking out.

Yeah. Okay. So we're zooming in on it. Dude, I'm sorry to the agony twins. We're bringing up shit that happened 10 years ago. I needed something to talk about you got chosen like you see so he takes

takes one shot first and then the collab will always come up two unless it's three and that one he took one shot only two made it look like three you see what happened with us like TST and the sore guys

yeah I was watching that that show is funny we like in between wagers we go into pubs and just play search and destroy and like fuck with people and we ran into a lobby Do you know the team, wait, were you on,

sore, yeah, you were on sore masks. Mac and all those idiots. So we, apparently they're still around. And, uh,

because like trick shot, trick shoting like completely died, right? I still see people doing it, but it's nothing like what it used to. I'm talking about like before this year. Oh, yeah. It was pretty much gone.

It was gone. It was no kill cams. It was all just play of the games and all that. Oh, yeah. Really like go for like last kill trick shots. Right. We would just replace with a play of the game.

So now. trick shoting is like low key like kind of coming back a little bit like people are starting to do it again and so we ran into a lobby of trick shoters so we're just you know bullshit and just talking shit to them just because we're bored and turns out they were in sore so then we started just you know saying sore died in 2006 and like we were just like talking shit you know and they were like actual sore guys so they found us and they tweeted at us and then I was like oh this is funny and I started talking with apparently like that lead guy of sore and I was like we should set up like like a show match, like optic versus sore.

And so we ended up playing them. And it was actually low-key, a lot of fun. It looked like a lot of them. Oh, yeah. They were torn. No, they were trolling with them. Like, hella. Were they trying?

Were you watching them? Okay. When I saw, no, I watched Revexes. Yeah. I watched a little bit of his POV. But like when I saw that, like, I kind of just like, I wonder what guns is they're using. And then I see a long bow.

And I'm like, all right, that makes sense. Yeah. That sounds like something they would use. At one point they go for a diffuse and the bomb blows up. And they were like, wait, I thought it was a five second diffuse time. And I'm like, oh my God. Like we're playing like pub. Yeah.

It's like your pub guys. Yeah. Because we were like setting up all the games and stuff. But yeah, I'm actually, it's cool seeing like, I mean, as much as I hated like the set up trick shot lobbies back in the day. It's cool seeing people like spin around and shit. It is. Like that it reminds me So toxic I'd be like laying down to staring at top crane with a snip in the back of the spawn

Just fucking up every single one of their clips Just like that's where you can get some of the best clips Every single one back then you just sit in the back You just sit in the back wait for all your teammates at I call it a 1v6 Yep They're all like spinning up there you're like one two one two One two What are the best and worst gifts you've given and received

Christmas topic I think best gift for me like 360 just like set just started it off like the like the multiplayer before then it was like sports games but like yeah there was nothing like getting a console like as a kid just like a PS2 the first snobs and it was just i think mine was a 360 as well it's unmatched yeah like you had like those Netflix parties where it was like you're all like a theater together oh so like you'd go in the theater and then then you're a hacker would join your party clerks and you're fucking you're in a closed party and clerk joins and Lizard Squad takes you out the day.

It was just a different time, man. You got Gordon Joseph Levitt just fucking smiling out of you and you're like, what do you know? Lizard squad's ruining Christmas for weeks. Just can't get online. So when he's going offline for two months. Oh man. Unbelievable.

Yeah, probably PS2 for me. Yeah, that was the console for sure. I think it was the first console I started playing like shooters. Did you get a memory card? I think I got two. Okay. Yeah. That's a damn. It's only like 30 gigs or some shit. I actually feel bad for every gamer who didn't get to experience like the PS2 era,

like the SmackDown versus raw games, slide Cooper, the PS2 Spider-Man's. Blockbuster on Friday nights. Blockbuster, dude. You go. You pick a game. You get some candy. You stay up all night with your, with your homie. Oh, man. You're playing the Halo 1 campaign talking about girls at school and shit. Blockbuster. What a fucking location. Movie gallery. You got that movie gallery? Yeah. Is that, they only have that in Canada?

Yeah. No blockbusters? No. Yeah, probably not. Blockbuster was like an all-on-one experience. Like you find a game or they had movies, then they have a great candy selection, and it was just like, I love the candy, bro.

I didn't need the candy. I didn't need the candy, but I always got the candy. He brought up candy twice. It was an important part of Blockbuster. It's the weekend. You go there Friday. You know, you see your candies, and then, you know, Which game you're going to rent?

Maybe return on time. We did not have a blockbuster. We had a place that it doubled as a haircut in front. And then in the back they had like games and shit. Like movies. A hair cut place? Yeah, you get your hair like a barbershop. And then in the back it had, I don't know, like three or four rows of like games and things that you could.

Pick up cod, get your fucking buzz cut in your house. That sounds like they wouldn't be selling like games. That sounds like it would be some sketchy shit. Yeah, no, they're out of business now for sure. The place did not last. They were walking down the Hollywood video aisle and like it was like the X-rated aisle and I would just walk down it and pretend like that I like didn't couldn't see it. But you couldn't see anything because they like had. Yeah, they put like things on them.

Yeah, they had like things on them. But I would always try to like at least maybe somebody messed up and there wasn't like a little safety. What did they put on? It was like a. So you know how like you had cases for the DVDs and in the front case of like the. Oh, like they were locked or whatever. You couldn't. Yeah.

So they put like. They put, like, papers in front of all the X-rated ones, so you couldn't see the covers. Could you imagine they locked it in a case? Like, these sick fucks have to go up and you say, excuse me, can you help me real quick? I'm sure that happens. And the worker walks to the Playboy aisle, it's just a guy on it. Pussy plunger, what, $2,700 or $3,000? It's like, $3,000, $3,000.

Six magazines. Pussy plunger is in sick. Oh, yeah, this one's really popular, yeah. I got came in and returned this really late before. That is great. We're actually out of pussy plunged. Oh, man, you just missed it. They just came through.

They're like, it's actually going to be, one's going to be returned on Monday, one next Wednesday. So, yeah, one's coming in tomorrow. I still have to sanitize it, though. That's filthy. That is so gross. Yeah, you can't return those. Yeah, that's that.

The old school days, man. Dude, those are so fun. Like the, the Blockbuster on Friday, you're friend comes over on Friday blockbuster and then it's either a game and a movie or game a game a game a movie or game and a movie oh they have a deal you know you get two movies you get a game yeah I had the Xbox I had the Xbox original with the DVD things so yeah playing like I said play the Halo 1 campaign all-nighters just for all nighters just for all night just getting those magazines zombies

of the games like he gives you a diss that are those are good it's funny because like we're like a little bit of a difference in age gap but a stuff so were like my sleepovers were like Xbox original games and yours were Xbox 360s. Yeah. I bet you that shit was so fun. Oh man. I mean, I can't even imagine like going over to a friend's house and playing online. No, just playing. My neighbor had Cod for before I even like played a shooter and we just go game for game. There's a game called Crackdown. We'd play. Um, Crackdown was crazy. And then like we go from Cod for like an hour. We play Pokemon Stadium. It was just like a different You literally cannot compare it to now

And everyone is so, I don't know man So, there's no way to replicate like that type of Yeah, I don't think, I mean, obviously that that's been talked about a hundred times But the game we were kids too GameStop midnight releases are just I still remember MW2 We had just, we had just won Cod4 Nats And I was going to the MW2

Midnight release and they hosted a tournament And I walked in there like obviously nobody has any idea who I am But I'm like, I fucking got the shit I get destroyed. It was like 1V1 rust. Yeah, got those a fucking care package. I still remember to this day

he got the AC 130, 1V1 rust. And I'm just sitting there like I'm just spawning that dying over and over again. And I'm like, he has no fucking idea the MLG rules. And like,

if he only knew that we couldn't use the AC 130. That is so, that is a hilarious story. I thought you were about to tell me you just like went through and dominated. No,

first round. I had my friend with me too and he was so excited to like see me play because he was like, dude, I know you're good. And then we would just walk out like heads down.

First round of him. He's like, what happened? Did you come to any of the NJ locals? Did you ever come to any like the local battles? I was, I was working at Walgreens back then. Damn.

I remember watching them. I remember watching one of them. The one where Seth like got like a fucking 20. Dropping a new PDW on the slums. Yeah. That I watched live. Yeah. Because,

but I mean, back then you couldn't get enough cod because it was so rare. What was the guy's name? I ran them. I never went. And Jay Rod? Rod. You should pay 20 to get back in a tournament.

I just remember everybody like talking about them. You get knocked out, walk up to him, hand him 40, you're right back in. Dude, that actually just did that like a week ago. You don't know, you can. It was like, it was like once, but like you get knocked out. You'd be like, right, you put you back in the bracket. How? You get another job.

Where would he put you? I don't know, but he was doing it. He'd make it happen. He was doing it. He had like set buys. Wow. Like later on. The buyback buys.

Get into winners finals. That guy's so fucking cool. That's assassin. So funny. You want to try a loser's run? That's 100. Yeah, that was... He had a system. They had a free-for-all.

So there was a free-for-all a 2 v2 and a 4-B-4. I remember, oh my God. I remember I was standing behind Bose once. And Bose was kidding. Fucking just... Bose was like, oh, and 14, and the free-for-all.

And I was just standing behind him crying, laughing. He just spawned up and getting smoked over and over and over and over again. And Twizz walks in. Yo! Just a different. different. Dude, y'all were like the hub for for Cod.

Jersey, PA, like New York was like, I mean, that's pretty much all there was local wise. It was like every. That's all there ever was. Seth and Killa would be in PA that come to Jersey and then like a Sassett and Twiz would come to Jersey and then me, Bose, Spacely, uh, huddle.

And the people used to travel for some of them. Like Nate Schott flew in for the Philadelphia one. That's when we won it, B. B.L. Fire. It was just a different. Yeah. Wow. And they still have locals now, but now they fistfight at them. we weren't fistfight. Like, back in the day, we were saying worse shit than they're saying now.

But, like, there was never fistful. No one fought like that. Like, it was just what it was. Are there locals now? Yeah, they have locals in Columbus. They have some here in Texas. I don't think local to here, but like two hours away or something. We should go to one.

And then they have some in California, I feel like. We should get a little team together and go to one. Just imagine pulling up to a local. You're playing Seth fucking Zen and Bose. We just get double-free. round it would be fun that shit would be so much fun it would be i was telling bo's like i wish we could have like an old school nj halo bent like the old heads and just like imagine everybody like in the same room playing like an old school game assassin twizz that is not far-fetched like i like i would

love to do something like space lee we literally could just take the offseason and just take the consoles and bring them here and do like a summit land here do that dude that's what i i want i want to do that really bad in the Aussies. You could get Assassin I would play in that just for the nostalgia but I always went like just randomly

I'd be thinking like what's Assassin doing? What the hell's Rob Walsh doing dude like Twizz just like Bobby and all them like just try to get everyone Bobby just throwing

frags everywhere and getting four kills at a time you're saying what the fuck you just throwing nades on firing range and just finding kills every time dude I bet you people would love

I bet you Seth would love that shit like if we found a way to put it on his channel and like like did like a tournament yeah he'd know I mean

like people would love that just just getting that group together it's been so long it'd be impossible not to love it like you'd have to tell you'd have to remind the new guys that like hey we can't say a bunch of there's a bunch of words

we can't say anymore yeah these words are no longer acceptable yeah what do you guys think about the leaked ranked play operators didn't see that I didn't even see him it is

Tell me it's good. Yikes. The fuck. Oh, there's different colors. I can barely see with the glare be.

Aren't they all the same as different colors? It looks like. Yep. Huh. Wait, and these are the what? No. So if you hit the highest rank

in MW. Like top 250 or whatever? Yeah. Yeah, you get the... That's what you get. That's what you get. Come on.

No, I don't know, man. Nah. It's a miss for me, man. It's a miss. Dude, you know, the apex and you see somebody with the predator trails and you're like

holy shit there's a fucking apex predator in here. I just don't know why why can't we just go all out one year like why can't we just put all of our resources into crazy cosmetics for like our side of the game just once and just see how it goes and if it flops now you have the

argument. Big you know what we tried and people didn't get behind it but just try it once. I mean they know how to do cool I mean even stuff that's O.P. I liked the the Groot thing know it like was super op but it was it was trolley it was fun it looked good yeah like they know how to make good looking characters but that yeah what is this is that advanced warfare that's a w wait that's fucking sick so i i didn't play a w that much yeah that's when i took my break that was better

for sure yeah way better and that was a decade ago so if you got like the highest rank you would get that that that dude that's fucking sick yeah that guy was fucking that that's it kind of looks i don't He looks like he's more It kind of looks like a gold skin I mean obviously like they only did diamond platinum And all that but no I'm still not crazy about that one But it's way better than you just want

You would want a skin where like if you hop into pubs Somebody in the pub lobby would be like holy shit Yeah Like a top 250 is in here It's like the great colleague walking into this room It's the way I'd want people to react To my skin and game Like holy fuck

Wait so what is it on apex? Like an apex predator Like whenever whenever they drop out of the ship if you're a predator there's a trail that goes by behind you and only if you're only if you're a predator it like

glows red so like those are the those are the trails that you can like buy everybody has the trail yeah everybody has the trail but that this is what a predator that's a predator so if you see that dropping in you're like oh we're like yeah I'm not going over there

this guy's about to slam us that and that's like that's like the cool because when I first started playing Apex and I remember the first time I saw one I was like holy shit and I was you know like 28 years old so like I can't imagine being like you know you're playing cod you're 16 you're like oh my god like this is such a fun game and then you see the top 250 skin in your lobby

yeah be like holy shit is that shotsy you know what I mean like that just doesn't happen nobody would ever think that with those no not with the the skin with the little patch, a little blue stripe, no. Just make it cool. Why would you not want to make the competitive part of your game that you make? Why would you not want to make that cool?

Yeah. That's what I thought. They kind of did something like decent. I just always wondered that. Like when Verdantz was out, like I would run into apathy a lot and he would always have like pro player. Like that's tiny stuff like that's not as cool

as obviously like a trail but that. But just like kind of running into someone tag or something. Yeah. Like only like because apathy was a pro. Yeah. like on that game so he just still has pro player on it so when you just see it it just like it stands out you know what i mean that's kind of go shit but it's nowhere near like dropping into something with a dope trail like that right i don't know i guess like just to sum it all up now that

we're like a month in what do you guys think just in total of monover three the multiplayer the competitive side the zombies the war zone everything uh i enjoy the competitive side of monolitha i enjoy the competitive I'm excited for a bit of sight. I want some like new maps incorporated because I don't think, I think some of these maps just aren't that good for like Harpoint stuff. Yeah. They're like nostalgic and everyone knows them, but I look like that new Greece map has potential. I want to see that get tested by pros.

Yeah, I want to see what maps they bring out. But so far, I mean, I'm enjoying it. I'm loving the new war zone. I mean, I think this new war zone is the best sense of Verdansk, in my opinion. I mean, I agree. I don't think it's better than Verdansk and maybe that's probably do like nostalgia and just super store and like that. type of map but I'm loving

current war zone so I think they did well there you guys are gassing up zombies so so far it's good um I'm liking it better than I thought that is what I was worried about was hard point on the maps like an invasion

when we're playing subbase hard point invasion is invasion not playing invasions invasion's okay just there's some unbreakable hills I mean like there's like one like the back palace and it's like you can't get there against four pros who are all in hecklitches, like, it's nearly impossible.

Can't throw smokes either. There's no smokes? G8? Yeah, G8? Yeah. Well, because now... People are complaining about you can't break the hills, but then we G.A. smokes? Well, the argument with smokes now is that they're not used, like, they were back in the day.

Smoke crosses or break hills. Now they're used just to, like, create chaos and fuck up aim assists. So, like, you just throw it in, and, like, a worst team would just throw smokes at the hill repeatedly and run into them and just, you know, cause chaos rather than actually use them methodically. That kind of makes sense, actually. And plus you, the spawns are so close to the hill nowadays that you could throw a smoke, die, and you spawn five feet from the hill,

and the smoke you just threw just landed. So now you throw another smokes in the hill. There's two smokes in the hill. If a smoke was a field upgrade, that would be so good. I think it would be perfect. Because then you have two trophies and a smoke player, and then like, and that way you'd actually save it to break a hill. It would be perfect.

Yeah, I didn't think about that. that makes sense. If you're a worst team, you just hook all your smokes. It'll make it 50-50. If I'm playing the top team, yeah, fuck that. Why would I go fight this guy when I can just hopefully give him no emissist? But the thing is, I don't think you can do that in Black Ups 2.

Because if you have one smoke player in Blackups 2 and you're on like the slums, like, Pee. You're spawning too far. You're spawning on the other side of the map. So you have to set up that smoke. I will say there's an update that's about to go live where it did go live, but they were playing on the previous patch. Spawns change and now spawns are more similar to like old school cut.

Really? Where you spawn further, yeah. So maybe that could be an argument, but I don't know. I think the field upgrade thing will be perfect. It's so, I doubt that's ever going to happen. What about you, Pam? How's the sniping community? How's the war zone community?

Because I know you're split in time now. The sniping community is just happy to get a new sniper at any time. It's like kumbaya on the sniping community. Was it one shot? Yeah. One shot? Yeah, it's all right. But it's not one shot for like war zone.

Like warzone still only guys like just the one. Oh, it's not? The cat, right? Yeah. There are some OPS shit in Warzone, by the way. I died. I was playing last night off stream for the first time in forever, and there's this shotgun.

I'm full shields, and just one shot shotgun, I'm dead. I was like, what the fuck? And the snake shots are going crazy. The snake shots are crazy, dude. I don't know, man. Snipes, I'm actually enjoying sniping in Warzone, too, though. Sniping should always be in Warzone, dude. I don't know why they ever.

I don't know why. Like, I understand. You saw Sam bitch on the timeline? Octane? Yeah, he retires, and now he's just an old man yelling at the clouds. Give him a couple years, man. The snipers? Yeah, he said there should never be a one-shot sniper in war zone.

He's like, shut up, Octane. Shut up. There should never be a man. I don't know. He's baiting, dude. I wouldn't take him serious at all. No, well, it's still one shot to the head, right? Yeah, it's one shot to the head.

There should always be a one shot. I think the cat's perfect because it's slow as shit. One shot to the body? You think it should be one shot to the body? No, no. No, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah, 100%.

Okay, yeah. I thought you guys meant just be one shot in general. I'm like, what do we play? I argue, that's nuts. No, no, no, no. Okay. I think college this year looks good from the sniping side, though. I just wish they wouldn't.

I mean, I get why they would Gia the snipes. I'm just always going to be like, oh, shit. I don't get why the Gia the slay. You don't get it? No, I think it's bullshit. I don't think they should either. I think it's, I think every pro is fucking. I get it.

It's so dumb. Can't argue it. Dropped wasn't missing against me. Imagine Simp. Just fucking running around the, yeah, but drop. On these maps. You think, you think, what, are you guys gonna,

did your team go into Vod review and watch where dropped played? No, but it's like, you just go into a, you go into a review. Snipers are very good. Okay, here's the way I look at it. Competitively, I understand why. As a viewer, you always want snipers in. So it's like a weird disconnect where it's like,

I don't think, if I was a player I wouldn't want it in, and part of me does kind of want it in now that I'm watching. It's because selfishly, it's just a different experience now. But, like, a good sniper, they just think about these maps, Lanes, invasion, terminal. One sniper has all of right side map. You have like one smoke attempt.

I get that. So I understand why. Of course, if you're a viewer, I understand why you want it. To be honest, I think this might be faded, but I think maybe the cat makes sense because cat, you could hit him in the waist and they'll die. Okay. But imagine and the other ones are basically useless because they're overpowered as shit. But what if we use like the intervention or like one of the guns from last year?

and like that's the only gun you could use with no attachment like you would still have to hit them waist or chest up for them to die and it's not as like it's it's not as like I don't know like you couldn't just hold a lane because with the cat if you're on if you're playing invasion A lane you can just hold the lane yeah the whole lane is yours said the slow one the cat yeah it's slow but it hits like a truck like you every you're it's hard to get a hit marker with

50 calum basically but in like in the pro sim did you play the pro sim yeah yeah we were playing with the intervention in the intervention you got to lead your shots because the bull of velocity is like a lot worse yeah and you got to hit them like chest up if you hit them in the waist it's a hit marker yeah and if you're 1 v3 you're fucked like you're not gonna spin around and get a 1v3 right but i don't know i i i just i never the only the only game that i ever agreed to with was Cold War because Cold War was busted. Cold War was crazy. So easy to snip. Cold War was crazy. There was no flinch.

You liked Cold War. I liked Cold War, yeah. I really did. I love the sniper. But it was busted in competitive. But ever since then, I feel like Cold War has just been an excuse for the pro players to be like, ah, let's just not have the sniping. It was super lame, dude. Yeah, it's so lame. You're telling me, like, I want to just, like, as a fan, like, you know, like not having like three snipers on one map. I don't want to see that. I just want to see like the one. Yeah,

you want to see Dashi. You want to see Simp and Dashi square up. That's 100% what you want to see. That's all that really comes down to. I said it last year, two years ago. I think, I think sniping is a lot like dunking

in basketball where it's like, it's a guaranteed point. If you're tall enough, you can dunk it. Yeah, it's a good point. But also, you can make it look fucking cool as shit.

It could be the coolest part of the game. Yep. Or it could be like the, the most simple part of the game. Yeah. But it is exciting as hell. So excited. I mean, imagine CS without somebody running up.

Yeah, and you can hit them in the shins and CS. Yeah. But I mean, I guess you have to earn it. Imagine you all come up with something like that. Well, no, that's what the pros are saying. It's like, if you could, if sniping was a field upgrade, then it would make, it would be like really impactful. Yep.

We need a lot more field upgrades. We need a smoke, the sniper. We just need a, everything has a field upgrade. We just have a guy on both sides that, like, tap somebody on the shoulder. You can snipe now. Yeah. You can smoke now.

Or they just make it like Halo. They just put us one sniper on the map. Whoever gets it. Whoever gets it. Yeah, that'd be crazy. Oh, well. Oh, well. Oh, well.

Proz are dumb. G8 it. Great ear. Going great. It'd be so sick. I like zombies, though. I think we talked about it than no. Dude, I loaded up the game and I was about to play multiple.

I was like, dude, high-rise invasion. I couldn't wait to play invasion. And I saw MW3 zombies and I was like, oh, I hadn't even thought about playing this. So I clicked on it and played a game. I've only played zombies since then. I was surprised. Because I got hooked and then I've only got a little bit of time every day to play. And I'm like, I'm going to play zombies today.

Yeah. Yeah, I was surprised. Like when I saw you started uploading and I was like, oh, he's for sure going to play multiplayer. Yeah. I thought I was going to do one zombies video and I was like, everybody's going to hate it. And I was like, damn, they kind of like this. I was like, all right, let me try a little bit more.

And then like the whole sentiment around it started to change. And I was like, oh, this is like, this is a wave. Are you still day trading every day? Yeah. So you're just day trading and you have a little time for zombies at night. That was it. Podcast at 11. Nice.

And podcast at 11. And being a father. Dinner's at 7. And being a dad. Nice. All right, guys. Are we good, Matt? Matt, anything you want to say?

I'll tell them. Unless you got a mic. Matt's good. Matt says Merry Christmas. Guys, thank you so much for watching. Episode 155 of the Optic Podcast. And you better enjoy that holiday season. Merry Christmas.

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