OpTic Podcast - CAN BATTLEFIELD TAKE DOWN CALL OF DUTY | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 237

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

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This game had so much potential. The downside of this game were the maps. So obviously we're kind of putting unwarranted optimism into call of duty and hoping that they actually make a all well-rounded game. Like that all the time. Is that not the most call-of-duty player-based thing ever? This is our year. Every single year.

This is going to be the best one we've ever played. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to welcome you to episode 237 of the Optic Podcast. This episode is brought to you by Lucy And we'll tell you a bit about Lucy Later on in the podcast Today we have a man, Pamage, late as fuck We have Scumper as usual, late as fuck And me

Bang Whoa, whoa, time out Oh Time out, so my bad, I apologize I got texted I was literally about to get in my car And I got texted Five minutes before

At what time? 955 I was getting in my car at 9.55 to take a 10 minute drive here? Correct. I got texted at 955. Yo, Bose ain't coming. Pam's filling in.

He's going to be 30 minutes late. I was about to get in my car. For the record, that was decided yesterday. I got told 9.15. Because fucking Matt Craig, he's taking a poop right now, which is why James is back there. But Matt Craig scheduled Bose Anzin, who lived downtown, to come up here for the pot at 10. and then was expecting them to hang out until 4 or to drive back and come back at 4?

So I was like, no. Love I were just airing this shit out right here. I love it. Oh, yeah, of course. It's nice. This is what we do, man. So thoughtful of you to think like that because when we were going downtown,

those types of transactions did not occur. Yeah, we were always on time. I think I was more on time going down to than I was here. It's not about being on time. It's about they're getting the past today. Special treatment? They're getting special treatment. Where was my special treatment?

That's all that I'm saying. I was with you. I was with you because I was driving you down there. Were you supposed to get an apartment downtown? There were talks. Okay, so what are we talking about you? There were talks that I was going to put me up in an apartment. Silliness.

The amount of money that they were to spend on top of what. It probably would have been cheaper to have me at the apartment than to Uber every day. You did an Uber every day. I fucking drove you. That is fair. My chauffeur. We got to figure. We got to lead by example.

Five stars out here. That's right. The best service. It's always late. Y'all what time I'm picking you up? 10, 05. Yo, what time picking you on? 10.06.

I'll be a text on 1003. 1004. But we're not here to discuss the past. Ladies and gentlemen. We're here to discuss the- We're here to beat on my nutsack, apparently. Optic Legacy Week is happening. Yesterday we had a very, very grand opening day.

It was fun. It was so much fucking fun, man. Just playing the old games, bro. I wanted to keep playing. As a person who hasn't touched almost, I mean, what was the last time you played AW? When AW was out. Does it? No, literally, I think that was the first time I've played AW since AW was out.

Yeah, there hasn't been any throwbacks. Yeah, I haven't played AW since, because we've played B-O-2, we've played B-O-4, we've played, you know, we've played, but that's the first time, like, A-W, B-O-3, like, all the Jetpack games, I didn't touch. touched them again, I mean, since they were out. So it was, it was fun, man. It really scratched that itch. Like, I wanted to keep playing. But obviously, no one's going to stick around after the stream ends to, we're not getting eight people to run games or shit.

I'm going to stir the pod. Do you wish you picked other people? Yeah, well, before you answer that? Wait, no. My picks, that was all that I could pick because it was, I got second pick. Matt took Kyler, who was going to be my first pick. And then I took Shotsie. Yeah.

Because Mason said that he didn't play the game. So I'm like, all right. Yeah. So Mason's like, I haven't played the game. So I'm like, all right, I'm picking it. And then Mason and Kyler literally put on a mixtape against us for four hours. Yeah. Fuck, man.

So I told Krimm, I'm like, what the fuck, man? I put money on you guys. I didn't put money on you. I put money. He's like, whoa, you're stupid. And then they have two active, they have three active pros on the other side. And then my next pick was either, uh, Krim or Z. I'm taking crim.

Obviously. You gotta take crim. Obviously taking crim. I don't know if that was a good idea. This who's been driving really fast. I don't think he's picked up the controller in a minute. Although you never really lose it. But he did say he's like,

oh, you're stupid. There's three active pros on the other side. Nah, dude. Playing AW, like, bro, playing that shit after playing boots on the ground, slide canceling for years and years, it felt insane. Took you a couple games?

No, I, bro. I wasn't even... I didn't know what was going on. Like literally, I didn't know rotations. I didn't know anything. I haven't played in 11 years. You don't remember that shit. No, I saw Hooke rotating early in shit.

In 11 years. When was AW out? 16. We were literally, we were looking up the hard point rotations. Like, Ian would like show me a picture of the hard point rotations before the matches. In the middle of the maps, he's just like, go boys. Yeah, 20. Yeah.

He asked Chad GPT for it. Like, B.O2, you'll never forget, right? Like, B.O2. And we've just played it more. A.W. If you don't touch a game for 10 years, dude, How are you expected to remember, like, how to play the game? I didn't know what was going on, dead ass.

All right, so as you're watching this, it's Thursday, but on Tuesday we were supposed to play. B-O-4 tonight, which is going to be so much fun. Oh, my God. I can't wait, specialists. Oh, dude. The Stim's, dude, tonight's about to be so fun. So it's team shots he versus team dashy.

Let's see who they pick. Well, we can talk about the special guest because obviously this is going to air after, So we got Attach and Illy coming tonight. Yeah, Ily's in there already. Oh, really? Ender's here? Inder was playing fucking Chal's and Halo with Bound when I walked in. Oh, God.

I walked in. I'm, the door's closed. And I'm like, yo, keep the door closed, bro. I quietly open and I see this dude. And I'm like, who the fuck is that next to Bound? And I like, inch up. And as I'm getting closer, I'm like, oh my God, that's fucking I look. I'm like, oh, shit.

You turned around like the undertaker? Bro, they're in the middle of a chow. And I'm saying, what's up to him? I thought that, you know, I'm like. No, bro, they're playing for big money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to let them be. I didn't know.

I was just happy to see my friends. Of course. But yeah, tonight's about to be so fun, dude. So tonight's Black U.S. 4 and then tomorrow is Halo 3 and then Thursday. I wanted to play Halo 3. I'm not playing in that one, but I really wanted to play it. So if someone backs out, get me in there. You probably could.

I mean, Mason wasn't supposed to play yesterday. It was supposed to be Karma. But Mace came in and he's like, I want to play. So. Dude, get me in Halo 3. Yeah, you can play in my. stead? Get me in Halo 3. That's your shit?

Dude, that was like my start. I played Halo 2. I played the campaign, the Pillar of Dawn, that first mission when you wake up inside the cryotube and you have to like get oriented as Master Chief and then you just get thrown into it. You do aim labs too. Do dead ass. You do the whole

thing. But Halo 3 was like where I first started that was like when I started playing the MLG competitive playlist. Yeah. Getting you ranking up. You'd see like the little triangles next to your name and shit when you ranked up. Yo, I got some, dude.

I mean, obviously as you're watching this, this is going to be tomorrow. But the legacy match tomorrow is going to be Black Ops 3. And these four, the pros, have been playing that shit. Like, I've seen them be, they've been playing. That's the one they want. They've been playing that, like, recently. It's every, that's like the most, like, as soon as the season's done, that is the game, every pro. I'm going to lie.

We're probably going to get ran the phone. down. What do you mean? Hop on. Yeah, why haven't you... Hop on B-O-3? Yeah, you haven't been preckin? No. Well, how do you expect? Yeah, it's like, we're probably not. I mean, if you're not, if you're not... These guys have been playing that shit.

Think formal, Krim or Damon are about to be playing B-O-3. You're out of your fucking mind. You hop on. You hop on and carry. Hop on, hit some pubs. Drop some raps. Drop some haters. Come on. You know what to do. He doesn't want to do it. I don't hop on.

I ain't up and off. I'm going to be honest. Stud to gas you. Yeah, no, I ain't up and up. We might get ran down, though. We got them last year, though. We got them last year, but we might get ran. Do you guys play Blackups three last year? It was B02 last year, and we fucking stomped.

We stopped. We stopped them. We get to play that shit again today. B02's on Thursday. Yeah, today. Yeah. B02 is going to be a lot of fun. Obviously, it's B02.

B2 is always a good time. But, yeah, I mean, it's just a lot of fun. Playing the old games and, like, an actual competitive. format. It's so much fun. Man, I was watching... Like tonight, I'm going to probably want to keep playing after we cut the stream again. Oh, B-O-4? Yeah. Dude, B-O-4, so underrated. I don't see Splashy with a fucking paladin, dude. I'm going to throw a chair at one of them.

A paladin? Tempest? No, a paladin. Sniper. Oh, is that what it's called? Yeah. The paladin? It was the paladin and the locust, right? The locust was the faster one? No, it's like a paladin, Koshkov, outlaw. Am I thinking? The locust was B-O-3? That's B-O-3. Yeah. Didn't people use the Locust?

They did put the locust in B-O-4, I think, eventually? Yeah, they did. But, like, that was D-L-C. Oh, was it? Okay. I have a confession to make. Hmm. I don't remember names of guns or names of maps post Black Ops 2.

I need a red card in my pocket and just fucking hold that shit up. But you show me any map in Call-Duty 2? I can tell you all of them. You show me any map in Cod 4? Don't show me nothing from Cod 3. I don't know nothing. So, like, tonight. I'm hoping we play like frequency hard point.

We got to play freak hard point. Arsenal control. Aren't the maps? Don't we already know the maps that you all are playing? Oh yeah. They have preset maps, but I'm just hoping we. Oh, yeah. There's Seaside down by the seaside is where I reside.

Fries there's no Arsenal. Hossi, I remember, but that's a Black Ops too, right? Oh, there is Arsenal. Please take it to game seven. Actually, game nine. Well, yeah, we're probably going to play more maps again today. So like yesterday I actually kind of liked it because we played like the best of seven, and then...

You kept playing? Well, yeah, we were like, all right, now where are the maps that, like, we want to play, and we played, like, Solar Hard Point? Let me ask you something. What's up? Who picked these maps? I don't know, but Seaside. I mean, I'm fine with Seaside.

Seaside's a... I remember, yeah, legendary. I'd rather play frequency, because frequency's, like, a bang-out in the ring, shot punches and shit. I can't wait to see how Hacienda plays. Hacienda Hard Point. Compared to like what it is right now. Let me block up six?

It's going to be a lot different. Yeah, right? Yeah, it's 5'5 too. It's like... Oh my God. What? It's going to be packed in here. Yeah, it's going to be a lot different.

That's going to be kind of fun. It's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. I love it. I cannot wait. It's going to be nice. So we got free control,

frequency search, Arsenal Hardpoint. So yeah, like we'll play this series and then probably play a frequency hard point after. What were some of the other maps? Frequency Arsenal. seaside, posse. Is there another map?

I can't remember. Didn't do any DLC maps in this one, right? Incompetitive? Like there's no maps that came out later. The maps were so good, we didn't need any. Like. Pretty rare now.

Think of that. Yeah, think of that. We didn't need any DLC because the maps were fucking fire. Yeah. But there were, though, no? Like DLC? Yeah. Yeah, they had DLC packs.

And this game was just really fun because pubs were actually like a lot of fun. wraps the GI unit. Like, pubs in this game were so fun. Yeah. And that's what makes a great cot. If it's fun competitively, that's obviously step one, but if pubs are fun too... Cammos in this were so... Cammos were gas.

B.O.4's... Do you know about Camos, Hector? Underrated. Camos? Nothing. Cammo grinding, bro. Dude, I can't remember the last time I played a game, like, to prestige even.

Did you get any, like, Black Offs 2 Camos at all? Black Ops 2? Yeah. Like gold? The... No, no, no, no. Diamond. Yo, race to master prestigious here.

Are you doing it with us? Yeah, I am. Actually, you're gonna stay here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, grid lock. Oh, my God, I forgot about gridlock. What? But I'll be here during the day.

I'm not sleeping here, fucking snoring up a storm. So you're not... Some people want to sleep with the bros? No, I don't want to sleep with the bros. You got to stay here full time this time. Because last time you were like kind of, you like stayed here kind of, but like... Well, I mean, I mean, I, I got kind of lucky because you guys were committed to staying here like the whole time.

But I could go back home, shower real quick, then come back. Yeah. And it was also kind of like divine intervention that fucking broke my PC the day the game dropped. So I needed to be here as well. Oh, so you had to be here. Had to be here. Yeah, you got to come here full time next time. Yeah.

Hey man. I respect the double XPs. Dude, Pam late night when you're just, it's 3 a.m. You're watching Davis play. You just hear Pam go, sit. I'm like, Pam. I was like, shh. Dude, and he's cracking him.

Cracking a mic's harder What are you doing, Davis? What are you doing, Dave? I was like, how is Pam functioning right now? What fucking challenges you're doing, Davis? Go. No, he was cracking Mike's harder, and then he'd be up four hours later in the morning shift. I'm like, dude, Pam, you've got to feel insane right now.

He does. It was a movie, man. Because I can't drink and, like, even if I had two of those because there's like, what, 8%? I can't drink and then wake up at four hours and, like, feel okay. I'm going to be sluggish. Like, I'm just not going to feel good. You're not going to feel 100%. No. I'll feel awful.

And those are sugary too, right? Yeah, they are. Yeah, so you're just a tank, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, I just, listen. One, optic days coming up. 14th. We got an awesome, awesome drop.

We got a dope-ass jersey. We got T-shirts. And that's B-O-2 Day, right? That's Black Ops 2-Day, which is freaking awesome. Wow. So we got a bunch of, of things happening this week, obviously. Like, every year we do this Legacy Week stuff.

Well, it's never been Legacy Week. This is the first time. It's always been Legacy, like, the day. The day, right? We would go to ESA, have fans come out. Oh, that's true. That's true. So we'd always do that.

This is, like, the first time we're doing something like this, which obviously it sucks not having, like, the fans and throwing an event. But this is fun because we're just playing more games. Yeah, dude, I planned on staying here, like, for the opening ceremony, and then I had to go take care of some stuff. but I just ended up saying the whole time I was having I was just, it was just chilling people were just hanging out. I mean all the boys, it's like a land party.

It's like this is what every gamer dreams about. That's just like step one. Who would have thought, you know, 10 years later we're throwing land parties with the boys playing all types of different games. Just grown men. Just having a good time, man. Brim's bitching just like old times.

Oh, dude, it was the best. I was expecting for a fuck hand. Oh, Crim was bitching. He was like, dude, we are not rotating. I'm like, bro, I don't know where the fucking hill is. And the game's fucking. DPD and shit. Dude, I'm like, I don't know where next is, Porter.

How am I supposed to rotate? I seriously thought I was going to see a mix app flying in my direction. No, he was getting mad. Yeah. He, like, yelled at us. We all hit old one time. There were like seven seconds left. He's like, dude, I called the rotate and I see four of you die or three you died old.

Yo, I got to give him some props, though, man, because he looks like a completely different person. He looks like complexity. No, no. Complexity, Ian didn't have great. hair like this motherfucker does. He was all shaved and shit. He's got a great beard. He's fucking like he was just he's in this element man and he's still

got to lose more weight he says so he can he got taller somehow. I was like what I was talking about? No it's probably just he's the shoes man. No it's your back your back strength like he's working out and shit his posture is probably just actually fixed because my posture is horrible

it's one of the things that like it's probably like the worst thing that's come from gaming for me is my posture. My back starts hurting. But, I mean, he's sitting down also, like, in the middle of a, like, if he's in a car, he's, like, compressed in this car. Yeah, but he's working out. And if you're back in your core or strong, it automatically improves your posture.

Do you think biking improves your posture? Biking? Yeah. I don't know. He's just telling me he bikes, like, I don't know. I don't even know how long he bikes, he said. Eight miles, he said. Eight miles?

Wow. At least, like, 1,500 calories with the biking. He said he crashed into someone and broke his wrist somehow. That's impressive, dude. Biking would be fun though. Like that's like probably the funest form of party. Yeah, in like a Super 73, you know what I'm saying? No.

Electrical ships. He's not even pedaling. He's just hitting the go button. Yeah, no, I'm, uh, I was, I was supremely impressed. Uh, I want to talk about Rosserania, but first let's talk about this UFC ending their pay-per-view in the United States as it signs a seven year, $7.7 billion dollar deal. to put every event on Paramount Plus. If you have Paramount Plus, go watch Mobland right now.

Yeah, we still got to watch that. It's a Guy Ritchie masterpiece. Another one. It's got Pierce Brosnan. Maeve, she's a great actress. I don't know her name. I do know her name. I can't think about it right now, but it's got Tom Hardy also.

Oh, Tom Hardy. And he plays off. He's one of the goats. And he plays on fucking beast. Tom Hardy's a legend, bro. Yeah, he is. I just saw a video of him like. talking about how he got inspired to do the Bain voice.

Yeah. It was just like some random like Scottish or English guy. Like some, I don't even know like where he was from. Imagine being the, uh, the like inspiration for Bain. Yeah, right? Dude, you're just like so gas watching him just. Wait, so finish, finish. Yeah, go ahead.

That's all I got. I can't really think of that. Yeah, sorry, man. My fault. No, that's all right. So he's like, yeah, I just saw he got inspired and shit. I just saw he go inspired. The video's out there.

You guys go check it out. It's awesome to watch and do it. It's as good as he just said it. Better than what I said it. You didn't sell no more reviews on top of that. My fault. No, but he is a legend, obviously. Where were we?

Yes, UFC. $7.7 billion deal with Paramount Plus. Also, with some featuring on CBS. I think it's good. Look, I love the UFC. I've been watching the UFC since the first ever UFC in 1993. me and my cousin Pepito and shit his name is Jose

Hernandez and shit he and I he would get him and we were watch them and they were brutal our parents obviously this is 1993 so our parents were like oh you 13 year old kids shouldn't be watching this violent ass shit faces of death what are you guys watching but we were watching from the beginning and then something happened I think it was when when Reebok came into

the league or as their as their main sponsor I don't know what happened But, like, it just got so saturated that right after that you had Rhonda Rousey and then you had Bones Jones and ultimately McGregor. And then after that, it just kind of like, it lost its luster for me. But it's coming back a little bit, actually. I'm the same way, right? Whenever, like, I'd watch every McGregor fight just because, like, there was so much hype around it.

Whenever McGregor stopped, I, like, stopped watching because I'd only watch, like, if McGregor was fighting. McGregor era was insane, dude. It was insane. He put on a show everything We were there for the fall of it You guys were at that last one Like his last one

Well we were the Where uh Or we lost Where he Where he Where Kabib jumps over the Oh Where the bra happened

Remember? Oh yeah dude It was crazy Swinging at the crowd Bro we were like on the floor Dude you look up in the stands And you just see people Fighting in the stands like left and right

It was fucking insane We were like we gotta get out of here Oh shit I'm like let's go Everyone's hammered Go You got Russians fighting Scottish people. I'm like, we got to get the fuck

out of here. It was fucking awesome. That's like yeah, war zone right there. Bro, you have no bro, we saw it happen. We saw a fight in front of us. Bro, it was insane. This dude, this dude gets it. That sounds awesome. This dude gets into it. It's on my vlog. It's on my vlog. It's on my UFC vlog. Like this dude grabs this dude puts him on the phone and he just

the restraint that he had. Because he didn't start to fight, but he could have finished it on the ground and he was like, about to punch this and I'm like, oh my God. And he didn't. His girl's like, don't do it. Fucking Whatever your name is, Trev. Don't do it.

The fight's over. The fight's already over. Fuck you, Trev. You know? Walked outside. People were talking shit. It was insane. Packed to dart.

That shit was crazy. No, didn't rip a sig. I was in, we got to get the hell out of here mode. I'm just, Kevin. We got to get out of here now. We got to get back to the hotel. And even at the hotel, I remember I was, I was drinking at the bar and there were these two Scottish dudes.

I had a couple drinks with them. They're actually cool guys, but you could just tell they were on edge. I don't know. We've got a lot of encounters. They saw you. and they're like, oh, that's one of our boys. It's our brother. It's my brother.

My brother, man. Dude, we got to go to Scotland at some point. We should throw an event in Scotland. I think Scotland, Scotland has to have the most redheads per capita, right? Scotland, Ireland. You'd feel out home. I know, right? My people.

You get lost in sauce. It's like when I go to Mexico. But UFC, I'll probably honestly watch more now that it's not pay-per-view. I'm not paying $100 for, I just don't care enough. But if it's like on and I don't got to pay. You already have a sub and shit? Yeah. Paramount Plus, like gas, like a bunch of shit on there?

No, I don't know. Do you research. Yo, Paramount Plus is the go-to for all old school cartoons. Like Spongebob. Like if you ever want to watch. Dude, they got everything. All the old school cartoons. For example, if you go to Hulu.

Courage and cowardly dog, like everything. If you go watch Hulu, now you got to watch Hulu on Disney. But you have a Disney. You have a Disney subscription already and you're playing a Hulu. So like if you're paying Hulu and Disney but you can watch Hulu on Disney, why do you need Hulu?

Exactly. That's like such a good change. That's what I'm saying. Do your research on on these apps, man. I don't fucking know how they work. I'm probably just spending $10 a month on fucking

something I don't use. On my account. Yeah, right? 100%. But yeah, no, I'm excited to look, I've always, like I said, I've always like UFC. I want to see more UFC, but it just got so, there was just so many fights, and not all of them were like good.

So you were like kind of like, ah, the ultimate fighter, like I used to love that show. And then something happened. I don't know. All right, let's get into the roster mania stuff. It's heating up. The real verbal agreement. Look, I said it, the agrement. I said it on, I hopped on Discord with Zinia.

when they were talking about this. And I said, Real's got to do the right thing. Right? What's right for me is not right for him. What's right for him is what he did ultimately. Because I said, the right thing to do, in my opinion,

would be to stick with your team and finish what you started because you got so fucking close. Yes. You got so, you were part of a championship team already. Well, I'm sorry. How do I best say it?

They weren't a championship. tender. They're so due, man. They were so good. They played us the closest at EWC, right? They almost beat us. Like, they probably should have beat us. It was literally like within a second. They should have beat us. By one second. It was literally a second. 11 against four or something. Yeah, they had life, life advantage too. Like, they should have beat us. And then who knows? Thank God they did it. But that's what, but the right thing to do for your career, especially because Ibi came out and said what he said. So yeah, it was a copy pasta, but he still fucking hit him up.

And that dude just had an 8, like 10 million people watching them on Twitch. So what's right for your career, especially if you're a Spaniard is to, but this is the other thing, like the dude, uh, Gorgo or Gref G, like those are also big, big people in Spain. So it's either... Isn't Heretics owned by partially? I just told you. It's not Gorgo. Yeah, it's Gorgo and Greg Gregg FG.

Yeah, Greg FG. Yeah, dude, that guy's big. That's what I'm saying. Okay. So what is, what, so what was the appeal? Right? What was the appeal for Real? What would you have done if you're Real? Seth? Let me just read this real quick. Heritageics matches Koi's offer three times his previous salary. Real signs with Coy. Heretics alleges Real. Renigged. On verbal agreement.

Real claims heretics forcing his teammates to take pay cuts in return. Oh. And then Heretics owner, Gorgos, says claims of pay cuts are false. Whoa, I didn't know that. A lot of he said. A lot of he said. See, I don't know. It's a tough one because on paper, looking at it,

Koi is probably like, just based on. See, this is the thing in Cod. It's like people see names and they want to play with these players. You got Kleenex over there, obviously. You've got Insight. And then who's their rumored fourth right now? Is it a Beezie? Wait, where's Joe DeCives going?

We don't know yet? Joe. Isn't Joe in Toronto? Like locked up in Toronto? They said Joe might be locked up. So Joe deceives Kleenex Insight over his old team. And then also. Also this morning,

Lucky, before I came here, Lucky just retired. Oh, dude. Yeah. Y'all, congrats on a great career, man. So Lucky. Legend. Yeah.

Lucky just retired. I don't know, bro. I don't even know. They boot camped out of here. Did they? Yeah. Lucky in them. Heritage matches Koi's offer,

so we got a three-time salary increase. I mean, I don't know. I'd probably, I'd probably stay. I stay 100% of the time. I'd probably stay. Except of course

If he buys gonna be raiding me You know As one of your players And you're raiding me I'm going there Because I speak Spanish You gotta get that in the contract

The same yeah He's gonna be doing watch parties He's got to be doing watch parties Like no I buy no No He didn't do a single one He buy it no

I mean maybe this coming year though Because it'll be Toronto Coy right Maybe he will I mean that would be huge For Cod if he did that That would be massive If he did that I mean these guys don't

Right? No. Gotaga is like the only... It's like if I'm a French player, I'm going to go play for Gotaga. You know what I'm saying? Because that comes with the community and people are going to watch,

you know what I'm saying? But if you're a player like, what's his name? Like Hydra who doesn't really like to stream, doesn't really like to be on... From what I understand, I don't, you know, obviously I don't know. But neither does Real. Real doesn't really stream how much.

That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I stick. It's a tough. It's a tough. It's not tough at all, dude. It's not tough at all. Listen, I don't know the behind the scenes.

I don't know if Real didn't get along with the ownership group or if Real didn't get along with the teammates. I don't know about any of that. What I do know, though, is that they got fucking close. And they were very close a lot of times. It wasn't just like once or 12. Like, they were so many series where these guys were like right there and they're in a winner's final or they're in the grand final like

team was good they just team was really good they just uh I mean couldn't close take our match for example they're two two about the three oh us they have they have life advantage and then we somehow win and then reverse sweep them like bring up uh jacaps jacups tweet this morning

Matt he had he had a some good points as a player um to do this Jordan Kaplan scrolled right there

this oh shit what happened to that post did Miami heretics take it down uh it looks like it bud but yeah I mean okay so essentially org's trying to guiltry in this case

vilify players always pisses me off players have a short window to be pro and make the most of it and should be selfish about offseason decisions okay I agree with that yeah but okay then shelf life's not long got to take advantage i mean it's a lot shorter than what it used to be great news lucy is back

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Unless you're like a fucking household name and if you start playing bad and you're not a big brand, you're getting replaced straight up. It wasn't like that back then. Obviously salaries weren't anywhere near what they are today, but even if you played bad back in CWL, you know,

you'd play bad, okay, so you're going to drop down the ladder, you're going to go to a lesser team, but you still are playing against the best of the best. Yeah. You know? In this case, you get dropped to challengers. Now, once you go to challengers, who knows if you ever come back? It is cut through, though.

It's super cut through. Yeah, but let it be known, though, that if a player gets to be selfish, then so should the org. The org should also be selfish. Why not? It's different, though, because the org can self-sustain. Not necessarily. I mean, not necessarily, but also this is a singular person compared to a fucking company.

It's not the same. Yeah, but what if the company relied heavily on this program? I don't agree. For the record, I don't agree with the way that they put this laundry out there like that. I would never. But I don't know. Players, players have, uh, dude, they, he should have fit. I was rooting

anytime that we weren't playing I was rooting for them too. They were fun to watch. Yeah they were a sick home crowd. Yeah, they were so a lot. I love hearing their comms, bro. It's just so different man. You love hearing their comms. You don't speak Spanish. I don't speak it, but I think it's cool like to hear a whole different language

of comms. It's fucking dope, dude. When has Cod ever had, obviously we've had the EU community and like players from London were always kind of in the mix. Now we have a full Spanish team that's actually good like really good. That shit's fire. Yeah. Not anymore. Yeah.

I mean, even if they lose Real, they still have rencourt. They still have super. Like, do they, like, replace these guys with other Spanish. No, like, they just get English speakers. No, they could get, I mean, I don't, I don't fucking know. I think Snoopy, because he plays SMG also. Snoopy could go there.

And just so everybody, like, I hear this thing, like the dialect and, and that, you know, Spanish from Spain is not the same. It is not that big of a difference. There's going to be no fucking confusion. the what do you call it the slang is like a non-factor thing just so everybody knows I'm sure that people who speak Spanish understand it just so everybody knows it's nice the same thing like could you could you come with a did you do you have any teammates that were from England Swanee played for in my career no I don't think I've ever played with the EU player

on my team I don't think it would it makes that that big of a difference EU no. Yeah. You know. And honestly, that'd probably be super vibey to have an EU guy on the team because now he's talking, he's teaching us the slang and shit. Yeah. You see him with something in it?

In it? You know what I'm saying? That'd be viy. I'm sad. I'm not sad like I'm on crying shit, but I am a little bit sad that we're not going to get to see the full development of the team, especially, God damn it, because they were so fucking close. But again.

People are always trying to pack a punch, man. And I agree with, I agree with cap. I agree with cap. I think, I think Real, 100% should make the best decision for himself. Whatever he sees is best for him, he should make it. Shell life is not long, depending on the salary. You're still going to have a great team over there. You have a great organization.

Either way you go with big personalities. Go. What? If they're both offering the same thing, right? They're both offering the same thing. you stick with the team that you made it farther than the people who you're going to join. You don't know how their internal stuff was. True, true, true. But I'm saying logically, you can't say you got to.

The player always knows best, man. The play he under- Fuck that. What do you mean? You don't know best. Bro, he's in the room every day practicing. He's playing against these people like. Sure.

I agree with you on that point. Like I said, I don't know their relationship with the owners or the relationship within the team. but, you know, Rancourt's post about him, like, it was very telling. And then he replies saying that he's also being held back. There's something to, listen, I'm talking from an org's perspective. And if talk tail and, I don't know. It's good to have both, it's good to have both opinions on it because, I mean, me being a player, you being an org owner, it's like. Well, player turned org owner, though.

Okay. Yeah. I'm one of us. You know what I'm saying? I was, I'm no, I'm not a VC person that came in and say, I played Call of Duty once. Player. Fucking Cod, too, bro. Player turned Oregoner.

Yeah. What? Player that gets baked and forgets that he's on defense and thinks he has bomb. Player who's been playing since Call of Duty 2. Player who played through all of Call of Duty 4, all of Modern Warfare 2. Listen, I paid my dues as a fucking player and content creator. Now it's an Oregoner. You have responsibilities.

But roster mania. One of them is helping players get out of their own fucking way to do the right fucking thing. And in this case, man, I would have fought my ass off to make him understand. Like, yo, you're so close to accomplishing something, not just. And I don't want to guilt to be Real because, again, Real did the right thing, which is whatever he felt was the right thing for him. Yeah. But man, would I have liked to see those dudes win something that we run it back another season?

Listen, yes. I would have loved it too. I liked watching that team a lot. At no point do I want any other team to win besides mine. Know that. But if something happened and they were still in and we were not, like I'm kind of rooting for it. Vamo, man.

Vamos. Vamos, me, mis, amigos. Vamos, me your Vamos, as they used to say. Give me your fucking. Vamos. But yeah, Real, I mean, Real is obviously gross. So, dude, this off season and this roster mania, is this the craziest roster mania?

Yes. Like, ever. Fages are splitting up, like. That's another mistake. Phase is split. So right now, it's rumored to be Simp and Drazer staying together. Selium is going to Falcons now, allegedly.

And then you've got A Beezie. Next door, maybe? A Bezzi might be going to the... I mean, dude, this roster mania is going to be crazy. Next year is going to be so fun to watch. Yes, dude. Have been together for how long?

Ten years. Seven years, I think. Yeah, whatever. It was six or seven years. I was, Seth, I was telling him, I'm like, I'm like, next year it's going to, because obviously, like, we don't know what formal's going to do. And I keep trying to fucking, like, I'm like, yo, let's go get a cigarette. I don't smoke cigarettes.

See, the thing about Matt that kind of worries me, though, if he does want to play, is that shit's already like, there's not going to be any spots left. By the time that he makes his decision, because Halo's playing until, like, what? Or late October, I think. Yeah. So it's like, dude. What? The game doesn't come on until November?

Bro, it's August right now. These teams are already. We are in the thick of Rostermania right now. By the time he makes his decision, it might already be too late. Is there a roster lock that happens? Yeah, of course. But let me ask you something. Like, if you're not playing the game, what the fuck does it matter?

Like, why are you creating a team now? What are you going to practice? You're going off of last year. You have to make moves faster. Players are going to go and then they're going to sign a two, three-year contract. And now they're locked up for two, three years. So these teens are, they're making their decisions like now. Like, they are.

Yeah. So where I was going with Matt, is that I'm like, yo, listen, I'm like, listen, obviously, you know, having, all right, what is this? Is this, what is this, Matt? So Dylan parts ways with thieves. Okay. Yeah, okay, got it, got it, got to, got to. Dan parts ways with thieves.

Got it, got, got, got it, got it. Okay, so where I was going is like, I'm like, are you going to, I'm like, are you going to do the watch party and shit? And he's like, I don't know. And I'm like, I'm like, dude, if you're going on the watch party, it's got to be like Saturday and Sunday. So I'm there Fridays, period. Bro, I was talking to him yesterday a little bit. And I was like, dude, if you don't. don't come on the watch party.

What the fuck are you doing? Like, why would you not? Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. But I'm like, I'm like, Matt, next year, like last year of matches were dope. This year coming up, it's going to be the sickest matches that we've ever fucking had. It's the craziest roster mania that we were a fucking experienced. Everything about next year is going to be fucking lit. Dude, it's going to be so fun.

And I'm hoping B-07 is similar to this game because this game had so much potential. The downside of this game were the maps. So obviously. we're kind of putting unwarranted optimism into Call of Duty and hoping that they actually make a all well-rounded game.

Like that all the time? Is that not the most call-of-duty player-based thing ever? This is our year? Every single year. This is going to be the best one we've ever fucking played. So we put this misplaced optimism

in Call of Duty. But if the maps were good this year, this game would have been so fucking good. The maps were just, they dropped the ball on the maps. Amen, dude. Except Skyline. Skyline was my favorite map to watch, by far.

But I'm hoping next year they lock in. We got Battlefield coming out, and I'm hoping that they see Battlefield, and they're like, oh, shit, now we actually have some comp because Call of Duty's never really been contested ever. But I feel like now, call of duty's in a spot where people are actually starting to get fed up.

And if Battlefield launches and their BR is sick, we've already played the beta, it was so much fun. The game is smooth. if they see someone like creeping in maybe trying to steal some of the player base maybe they'll get right is that that that's what I'm hoping I wish they showed us that battle royale like just something rather than just tease it off the rib dude do you know how fucking hype the fucking community showed us a little bit of that battle royale or even let us like play it a little bit

well I feel like the the question mark is still cheaters no the question mark is just the the base game is great we played the beta it's a lot lot of fun. Game runs well. Now are they going to capitalize, which I think they are. I hope they are. I hope that they've, Battlefield does a lot better of a job than Call of Duty about like actually talking to

their community, I feel like. Like I feel like they take in criticism and they're going to apply it better. So like if the BR drops and people don't like something, they'll probably fix it. Whereas Call of Duty, it takes a month until the next patch comes. out and people are like... Yeah, they don't do a lot of quick fixes. Exactly. I feel like Battlefield will be more on the ball.

I'm just hoping for B-07 to be good. Because if B-O-7's good and we have all this roster mania shit, dude, next year it could be a movie. And it's still going to be fun to watch regardless. Like this year, the maps weren't great. People got sick of the game a lot

earlier than past Codd years, I feel like. Me included, like playing rank play dude, I was, usually I'll play rank play for like six months out of the year. I probably played rank for like three, four months. And then once Warzone came out, I didn't even, ranked was an afterthought. Like I'm like... Well, then you just played ranked on Warzone. Yeah, exactly.

That's kind of... You played technically like six, seven months of ranked? Yeah, but Warzone. It's not the same. Like, play an MP. Like, I was getting on 9 a.m. Before the watch party playing ranked multiplayer. viewership was bad

like you could just tell people were kind of fed up with it a little bit they're like Newtown again man yeah I mean no it was vault oh we got another vault I've been playing vault for six hours and I'm playing the same kids and they're probably cheating yeah I don't know how

you do it man oh man I don't know well anyway again back to it it's the most exciting roster mania ever I mean obviously sad sad shit happening all around obviously Like, I don't think that the trio should have broken up. One, and listen, again, and we don't know, right?

We don't know who got along with who or who got sick of who or who, like, you know, it went away. And the thing is, they're all going to different teams besides right now. Simp and draws are supposedly staying and then a Beezzie cell. They're both going to different teams. Dude, it's going to be Sautra good. Dude, a Bezzie versus Simp. Imagine that first match when they play each other. That shit is going to be a movie.

I want to, I'm like, outside of us, like, me expecting us to just take it all, man. I can't wait to see, like, who out of the three of them? Oh, dude, I can't fucking play. You know what I mean? It's going to be fired. The first Falcons versus phase, the first LA Thieves versus face, if these rumored rosters end up being what the predictions have. And I also feel like some of the middle pack teams are like kind of. Getting a buff, too.

They're going to catch up. They're closing the gap a little bit. So I feel like every year it keeps getting. getting tighter and tighter, which is great for the ecosystem. You know, it's like, okay, these matches are starting to get more competitive year over year. Because MW3, when we watched that,

it was literally like the top four, and nobody could fuck with the top four, like, at all. It was just them destroying. And then last year, we saw a little bit more of like some upsets, middle of the pack teams playing closer matches. You know, we had Miami come into the fray.

so this next year should be gas and Vancouver Vancouver came into the fray oh the coves dude the fucking Coovers but now Vancouver's all go into different teams too I hate that dude it's 04 so much Vancouver just like

copping the block like yeah bro like four grand finals in a row like come on man not in a row not in a row no they got last they got last at the last major before champs okay well they did right you don't talk about that yeah they got last I don't get it man I don't

Look, the good thing is, is now more than ever, it's not going to be as top heavy as it has been. There are obviously some very obvious concerns from everyone with with Falcons coming in and having the amount of money that they have to just, you know, sort of throw at anything. But, you know, I think, I think two things. You cannot guarantee with, you can't buy cool. You can't necessarily think that, I mean, but eventually I guess they can get all those super star players. If you make the first ever super team, the truest super team today, right? Like, how long does that take to be a thing? And also, look, like, I don't believe that if you're the best team, you want to beat, I suppose it's super team, no?

Like, you don't, you don't want to, I mean, look. I mean, super team. I mean, 100th these is a super team fucking. Yeah. Super team is like, I mean, exactly. People try to like stack talent, and that's why I like, I really like where thieves are going this year because like they're bringing in Kenny, who's obviously talented, but he's also like a really good in-room player for the team.

You know, it's like sometimes those super talented teams just don't work because you have too many egos clashing or, you know, someone starts playing poorly. Like Dylan started playing pretty poorly towards the end of the year, and they just couldn't really pick up the pieces. I love Dill. It's just Dill had a tough stretch. It is. It is what it is.

But like super teams don't always work because you need a well-rounded team. You don't need the best talent. Can you see the teams, Matt, that are supposedly being formed right now just really quickly? Just let's want to give a, because look at the Covers, man. Go to Rostermania.com, Matt. Nobody thought Russermania.com. So this isn't like filled in,

but I can kind of fill in the blanks for you. So thieves right now, Dylan's gone, Dan's gone. So thieves right now is Kenny and Hydro Scrap, Kenny and Abizi, allegedly.

It's a nasty team, nasty team, nasty team, and then you got Faze. Faze right now is allegedly, I want to keep saying that. Simp, Draza,

O4 and Abusa. Falkins is a team. Falcons is. is Pred-Exnid Selium and who's Falcons 4th? I'm drawing a blank. Prid, Exnid, Selium. Sib. Sib is a question mark.

It might be Sib. I hope Ex-D stays on Phelps. I mean, I would think that they would build around them, right? Because their whole point was to build a regional team. The only one like out of the original actually fucking made it. It's fucking good. I'm more afraid of them, like, sort of putting them in a position for him to not really develop as the player that, or maybe this helps him develop into the player that he, that he will also become. Yeah.

If he plays with that team, he's got to sit in hills. Sorry, Axton. For real? I mean, bro, it's Pred, MC, and Sib. I mean, he's a killer too, though. Yeah, but someone's got to do the dirty work. But the best teams, everybody does all of it. So that's why our team is so fucking good because not only is everybody frying all at the same time.

You don't see that very often. That's why it's so hard to win in Cod because, I mean, you can have three players playing well, but if one player's making the wrong plays, it fucks up your whole team. Jesus, dude, this is insane. But right now our team is just so well-rounded and everybody makes the right plays at the right times. Kyler and Ant are so good together. And then obviously you got Mason and Bruce just Mason is unbelievable. and then Bruce he's kind of like

not taking a backseat but he's playing like more hill he's like the turret and hill and we just mesh so well and you just don't know if these teams will mesh wow and then you got Koi just a Koi right now so you have

Real rumored to go to Koi and then Snoopy rumored to go to Heretics so dude Rostermania's crazy and we're not a part of it that's insane wait whoa whoa whoa Is that right now? Oh, those 30 minutes ago.

Insight. We just got this news. Unrestricted free agent. Unrestricted. Which, that doesn't really mean anything. That could just mean he's in talks with Koi again to resign. Could you guys like tell me the difference like? Unrestricted.

You're not under contract. The org does not have hold on you at all. Restricted means like you're on a one plus one and the org has to like sell you. Right of first refusal. Yeah. So the org can be like no. If somebody comes in and says, well,

we're going to give Pam a Honda, then I got to meet a Honda. Not enough. So unrestricted, you can do whatever the fuck you want. What I'm saying? But yeah, Rostermania is...

Thanks for explaining that to me. Rostromania is crazy. And then where does Neptune go? So Neptune, I mean, gentlemen mates, maybe. Gentlemates,

where does Envoy go? Where does Kismet go? Oh, my God. There's so many fucking shuffling, dude. Dude, so much shuffle. And then obviously you have like the Challenger's dudes, right? The OMA team, the Amit team.

Yeah, you got Craze, Mamba. They're rumored to be on a team. They might be rumored to be on gentlemen mates. Bro, craze is an easy pickup. Mamba, easy pickup. Especially if you want to fucking fuck shit up, you know, if you want to mix things up. Yeah, dude, the fact that the amount of content that has been generated just on this alone, like look, at Russermania.com thing popped up.

I'm going to talk about it. On Wednesday, because I'm streaming Wednesday, I'm going to talk about it to start my stream, dude. It's like there's so many moving pieces and so... Everyone just wants to know what everyone thinks. Dude. Everything's getting clipped. Everything's just getting like... Friends of Pinnies are just getting put on the shorts and everything.

Yeah, it's insane. Pretty popping right now. Rostermania's popping. But once it fizzles out, I mean, once Rostermania ends, that's like it. Because now it's, now we're in the dark, the dark period before Cod starts up again. But luckily we have battlefield dropping. Yeah. Like I'm fucking playing Pokemon right now.

Just fucking killing time. I'm doing those random shit right now, dude. I mean, that's why we do a good job with like legacy week. Like this is a fun, full week of something to look forward to based around Call of Duty. So it's like once this is done, we have what? World Series of Warzone, which is October 1st and it's a one-day tournament. That's so long. That's so far ahead, bro.

It's so bad, dude. One day. One day. No crowd. No crowd. Big Matt. And dude, after watching, we just did the EWC watch party for rebirth. And it was awesome.

Yeah. Like that was. Shout out. Shout out fucking Aiden. That's twisted mind. Yeah. We were kicking it out in L.A. together. We Ubered back home from the after party.

I was like, I DM'd him. I said, who knew I'd be kicking it with the EWC champ? Because we were like, we were talking, you know, like, you got to fly to Saudi in two days. He's like, yeah, the flight's going to be brutal. and I'm like how you feel about the team. He's like, I think we can make it happen. And then they make it happen. Dude, the match point, that match point,

the match point upset, whatever rules is actually so, so good. Yeah, it makes it so fun to watch. That's why Apex is always so fire because Apex's match point. Yo, Matt, bring up the Barstle dudes that are running a challengers team. And wait, really quick, well, while he's pulling that up. World Series of Warzone is also Matchpoint. So that's going to be nuts because there's like, what, 50 teams in that? So you get Match point.

Dude, that could go however many matches. Dude, that could go like 15 games. Wait, what do you mean? What do you mean? Because it's Match point for World Series of Warzone. So match point, you have to hit the point threshold and then win a game. And that's the only way to win. So you have to hit the threshold and then win a game.

But if there's 50 teams, imagine how hard it's going to be with all of those teams trying to grief you and not let you win. That shit could go a while. Yeah. It was so lit when VP was on Matchpoint and then like you'd start to see like Falcons like meet up with them

and then twisted, oh, I feel for Sage. I was rooting for Sage a lot. Dude. But like they just got caught in between them but all three of them were on matchpoint too so it was just like somebody's got to go. And the shit talk was awesome. Like Falcons they weren't on matchpoint but VP and who else was it

VP and who else was on matchpoint 100 thieves? No it was VP and Dude who was the other Twisted minds Yeah Swissed minds It was twisted minds It was Swiss of Minds

But Hizoka and the Falcons They kill them And they know they kill them And Hizoka both times He's like bitch Fuck you Like right after they squad wiped them Because they knew they couldn't win

Damn With that Dude it was so fire I need more of that And then Hizoka and them We're talking shit to Sage Specifically in Saze was just sitting there like

like he could hear him dude it was so fire kind of just aura farming in it just like yeah let me let me have it it was so fun to watch and that's a good sign for war zone man

yeah it is they had a great viewership this one too yeah no especially for rebirth yeah I had like 35000 viewers across Twitch and YouTube watching rebirth

I was like holy shit it's a good Saturday even with Battlefield beta out I had like 20,000 viewers watching pool play every day like people really yeah you fuck my shit up by the way

Wait, why? The whole progress shit. My chat was done. Oh, yeah, I rated you. My chat was done for like four or five hours. Yeah, the first couple days were progress and... I had no idea what any of them were talking about. Oh, yeah.

I understand the watch time. The progress shit, though. I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about. Like, I couldn't read my chat. I'm so lost at what we're talking about right now. The Battlefield 6 beta. So, like, everyone was typing exclamation point progress, exclamation point code, exclamation point like drop like every time just everyone wanted their codes so my whole chat the entire time

I was playing the beta was just that so like you can't interact like I'm just sitting there thanking subs every once in a while but like I'll try to pick out a comment but it was nuts scroll up a little bit Matt what is the telleride war load telleride warlords or why can I say that warlords telluride warlords. Name subject to change. I like it. Yeah, I love Mook and Jerry getting in, dude, because Jerry would FaceTime Zinny every single watch party and be like, when does optic play?

Like right now, man, you know we're live. You just want it to be on. Jerry needs to pop up and say what's up. We had him on for MW3 champs. He stopped by. My God, he was there. Yeah, he stopped by for that. I was down there collecting.

We had Jalen hop on too. Jalen Suggs hopped on for that. Dude, that's a man right there. Do you know where this podcast is, Matt, where they're based out of? Obviously, Jersey, Jerry is one thing. But do you know where they filmed the podcast? The podcast where we keep reposting. We repost the podcast on their podcast on Optic all the time when they're talking about us.

Anyway. It's cool to see them get in. Yeah, we should have a challengers team next year. Uh-huh. It's the right way, though. Yeah, of course. It can't be the way that Zinni wanted to do it. it or the way that Hitch wanted to do it or the way the maniac wanted to do it.

It's got to be the way that I want to do it. Because then we have something to root for throughout the week. That's right. They're playing challengers cups and shit. You're going to have to coach a little bit. You have to give them some pointers. Oh, I'm so down. Yeah, that'd be fun.

You Zinn, Bose, me. Yeah, no. I mean, we can't, we can't be trolly about it, though. We actually got to, like, try to help them out. Yeah. No. But like, no, y'all can be in there. Of course.

But if we're talking about some shit, y'all can't be making. Well, I'm paying for the fucking team. I mean, yeah, you can do it all the hell you want. That's right. You're saying. I can play if I fucking want to. Ah, that's not going to crazy. Not too crazy.

Too crazy, man. You're too crazy, man. So crazy, man. This is exciting, though, because this is ultimately still not what Challenger's needs to be what they can be. Or this is still not going to be the path to a proper path to bro. But as usual, the community will take the reins and drive this thing where it needs to be because we like it. Activision can choose to help or not help. We'll see.

All right. Let's move on, Matt. I want to talk about the most important topic of the day, and we'll end it with this one. Okay. KFC is bringing back to potato wedges after five fucking years of them being gone. And may I tell you? Look at these bad boys.

I've been telling Jude, bro, this is the worst thing that they could have ever done, gone away because they're so good. Those are the salad finger fucking potato wedges. Big ass things. They're so fucking good. And while we're on the same topic, I want to talk to IHop. IHop, the Smokehouse SausageCombo needs to come back. What is the point of having the best sausage link that's ever been made in human history

and then removing it, taking it away? That's good gas. Dude, it is so good. It is so good. And then they removed it completely and utterly no longer available. I haven't had KFC and, dude, I... It's probably been 15 years, no bullshit. Seth, I did have these, though.

Seth, I haven't had KFC since they removed the potato wedges. Damn, they took that shit out. You said, you're boycotting KFC? I just didn't go. I'm like, oh, the only reason why I went there was because of the potato wedges. If I wanted some good chicken, you know, I'm going to... Pop-Pas! Love that chicken for Popeyes.

Best Cajun fries, best Cajun mashed potatoes. I just don't really eat fried chicken very often. Unless it's like a fried chicken Nashville sandwich, that I'll bang down. But like the last time I got fried chicken was from Jollybee because I really wanted to try it. And obviously it was like trending on TikTok. Everyone was like, you got to try Jollybee. And I didn't know there was one here, but there is. Ordered that shit, ate six thighs.

Brother, I had an out-of-body experience after that. Wait, because it was good or? Because I felt insane. I was laying on the couch like, holy fuck, dude. I feel awful. I was laying on the couch. But I'm also happy. This is so worth it.

I was laying on the couch, but my body was not touching the couch. Dude, my body was hating me. That next morning, bro, I was in pain. KFC, good job. I am going to be a returning customer now just to try it and see if they're still as good as they once were. IHop, forget you. Wait, you want to talk about the Battlefield 6 beta just a little bit or now? Yeah, go ahead, man.

How much did you play, Pam? I played probably like 20. 20-ish. I probably played like 14-15 hours total. Because we were doing the watch party as well. So I did like six hours and then the watch party, six hours. It was good, man. Like there's like no skill-based matchmaking in that.

You really get to just kick back and just smoke some nobs. It really is like a big chiller game. Like you don't have to be locked in. Like when you're playing conquest, dude, you can fuck around and just get in the heli every life if you want or getting the jet every life if you want. Like you don't have to super sweat in battlefield, which I like. It felt really good. It felt really, really good.

Yeah, it's not like Cod where you spawn in and you're playing six diamonds in a pub because they're skill-based. It's like, why the fuck are you having to do that, man? Like, let me just go smoke some uncles. Smoke some fucking... Don't run into this uncle. You know what I mean?

Like to smoke your ass. But, dude, Battlefield 6, I am genuinely so shocked at how well and smooth the game runs. Because, dude, there's 64 players in a conquest. It's a huge. map, you have building destruction, then on top of that, you also

have jets, helicopters, tanks, noob tubes, RPGs, like, the fact that the game runs as smooth as it does with that much shit going on is insane. Question. Question. So, the first line, the beta,

the beta has beaten Call of Duty's all-time Steam player count record. Are they only on Steam? No, it's on EA. And then obviously you have console, so bro they were probably side by side picture yeah what the hell is that

is that American dad yeah well it's the new drop Roger Roger yeah it's the new drop it's just like so serious on the left

and then you go to the fucking Roger is so wait is this a call a duty drop on the right yeah it's a new yo I don't lie though I actually fuck with that

if that's coming to Cod no it's already in I don't mind the I don't mind the cosmetic stuff about pubs right now, you'll get, you'll get fucking ran down by Roger, fucking stand. I'm gonna be honest with you for a very long time. I said that Call of Duty needs to bring in these cool drops the way that Fortnite was doing the fucking drops. I don't mind it either.

I don't know why everyone's dissing so hard about it. I don't know. I see Beavis and fucking butthead. I'm like, man, the fuck. I'm not going to lie. Those operators are really fucking annoying. Like you'll be gunning like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, it's like shut the fuck. Shut up, shut up, Beavis. But I have no problem with the cosmetic shit that Cod's doing.

as long as their game fucking works. Like, I get they got to make money. It's a business. But at the same time, like, fix the damn game. But a business? What you mean? It's a business. But this is part of the service that they are offering, right?

How many people are buying Call of Duty nowadays to beat the campaign? How many people are buying Call of Duty to play online? And if people are buying the game because they want to play online and the online service isn't as top-notch as it should be, because of the cheaters, then they, the customer has a right to say, yo,

give my fucking money better. That's point blank. If they fix cheaters, call of duty is already in a much better spot. But we've seen news come out. They are trying to adopt the secure boot anti-cheats, which is what Battlefield has. What the,

they ain't going to do lying. They ain't going to do shit. I don't know how much that's going to really do. They got you. They got you. This is propaganda. I don't think it's going to work to be to be. See what I mean?

I don't know. Like, I think it's going to do something. It's not going to solve it though. Well, hopefully, listen, anytime that we talk shit, please believe that we're not shitting on the game that we love. We are complaining so that change happens and it becomes a little bit better.

Facts. Okay. Ain't no hate over here. I mean, yeah, I want the game to be good for fucking me. I want to be able to play that shit and enjoy it without getting cheated on. Dude,

I was loading up ranked for three months every day. and there was a cheater in almost every single game we would play in Iridescent and top 250 Elo. Matt, go back. I want to see this. Is this guy cheating? You think I like that shit? No, of course not. I'm sitting there talking to the stream.

I think that playing against a cheater with your skill is a lot easier to playing with a cheater with my skill. Oh, yeah, no, we'd still run them most of the time. All right, the most locked in cat girl you'll ever see in battlefield. Yeah, people think, uh... People think this, yeah. The cats cheating. Uh, no, that's normal. That's not...

No, there's more. They're not cheating. Because there's a lot more impressive shit. Play that back. Play that back. There's a lot more impressive shit. Yeah, I don't know. I don't see shit there.

Nah, go back, Matt. Right here, watch him snap. Yeah. The fuck is that. Look at your mini map. Look at the minimap. I mean, yeah, look at the minimap. That's just a good flick.

He was shooting at the fucking rock. All I'm saying is, like, I've seen crazier shit than this, and they haven't been cheating. See, like, right there, I don't think he's aim-bodding because he's, He centers to the right a little too far. He misses. But it's like Mason, dude. When you watch Symphony Stream, he literally rage bates. Yes, exactly.

He rage bates that he's cheating. He does the same shit. Or is he now making it a point to do these random flicks at random times so that when it actually happens. Now, I'm kidding. Mason, I'm sorry. You know, I love you. No, yeah, but Mason does this shit all the time. He, like, actually plays to look like he's fucking cheating.

Yeah. Shit, I was doing that too. on Caldera a little bit when I was on messing keyboard. Listen, I'll tell you what, I once snuck up on Mason as he was streaming out of the 100 Thieves house and I didn't see nothing illegal or shady or that. And he wasn't like overly like, oh. Bro, Mason's not cheating. Get away from me. I know.

Dude, the Warzone community is hilarious, bro. Like, doing the watch party for it. They'd be like, yeah, eight and one, but like he's cheating. It's like, bro, he just won on land where they're checking his PC, like. In front of other pros. who would fucking call him out immediately for losing the opportunity.

I need to ask some of these people. Doesn't it get exhausting? No way. Fucking constantly. Let me ask you this. If you ask the same question to people who cover news, are you going to say, don't you ever get tired of drama? The answer is no. They need the drama

to feed the product. The people who are like, I don't know the names of these guys that their content is purely exposing cheaters. Of course they want more cheaters because they get views. You know what I mean? I guess they just get tired of reading it.

That's right. That's just it on my own. Battlefield 6, so much fun. Can't wait for the full drop. Hopefully they do a great job with the BR, which I think they're gonna. I think they're gonna. New York map coming next week?

That's what I heard. One that you were playing at the Battlefield 6 event? I hope so. Is the beta this weekend as well? I think so, yeah. So it's this weekend and then that's it? I think so. Matt, can you pull up the beta dates

real quick. Dude, I haven't been to New York in a year. I need to get my ass up there. Oh, hell yeah. So we got Legacy Week, and then right after that, boom, beta's back out. Dude. Damn, you're hype? Yeah, this is one of the good weeks of the offseason.

But after the beta goes away, after Legacy Week, now I'm on CS or whatever game, maybe playing Warzone here and there, maybe playing Apex. Go. All right, Matt, where are we at? Matt? The 14th through the 17th. So what is... Oh, there we go. So it starts on Thursday? Yeah, this Thursday.

Hell, yeah. Wait. All right, ladies and gentlemen, you guys have heard it here. Tune in later on today, 4 o'clock Central tomorrow, same time to continue this Optic Legacy Week. As you're watching this, I want to wish you yet again a happy optic day. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you so much for viving with us since 2009 on this faithful day, way back when. We'll see you guys next week. Wait, how many years, real quick?

What year is this? 17? 19? 19. Holy fuck. Well, we, Optic was founded in 2006. So next year's going to be 20 years. Damn, bro.

What are we doing something crazy for that? We got to. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. I'm flying everybody to an undisclosed location where there will be beach, beaches, seas, drinks. That sounds like a good time. Beaches, sea drinks.

I can get down with KFC wedges. KFC wedges and the smokehouse sausage combos. Ladies and gentlemen, that's going to do it for this episode of the Optic podcast. Episode 237 brought to you by Lucy. We will see you guys next week. Bones.