OpTic Podcast - Can Scump SAVE Call of Duty | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 121
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Welcome back to the Optic podcast, episode 121.
I am here with scump and methods and maniac.
All right, so how was Columbus guys?
It was good.
It went a lot better than I thought it was going to in terms of like how much fun we had.
I think we made it work.
Did y'all ever end up at World of Beer or no?
No, we didn't go to World of Beer.
We didn't go to Standard Hall.
We talked all that shit for nothing.
Dude, we didn't have time.
We literally, every day the matches were ending at like 9 p.m.
And then we were rushing to dinner because everywhere closed at 10.
So matches ended at 9.
We were getting to dinner by like 945.
Places were closing at 10.
And then we'd be there to like 10.30.
And then we all just wanted to go to bed.
So we didn't get to really do like anything outside of the watch party.
And we did some good dinners, though.
We did have good dinners.
What was it?
I feel like you guys have a little.
long days.
Dude.
Like, is that long as fuck?
Like, I've done a few watch parties.
And even just, like, being in that room or my bedroom or whatever, just by myself, it's
so long.
Like, to actually sit there on a couch and you're, like, being, trying to be entertaining
the whole, like, it's basically like a show.
Like, that has to be the most underratedly tiring job.
Well, when matches are shit.
Right.
When matches are shit, it's way worse.
This is a good exciting match
And it actually gets your adrenaline bumping
It's great
Like when you get an optic phase
Or like a thieves optic
Like when you have the top teams playing
And it's a good match
Or even it doesn't matter if it's good teams
If it's a good fun match
It's good but not all the time obviously
It's kind of contingent like Saturday was the hard
Or Friday was the hardest day by far
Like are there matches you guys just don't really give a fuck about
Just won't say their names
Yeah I'll start
I'll name them right now
What
Anything with London
I don't want to watch.
Anything with Florida, I don't want to watch.
Well, there's certain matches where, like,
some of the teams don't even have an opportunity at this point to make champ.
So it's like...
Oh, really?
The only entertaining part would be if they, like...
If they upset, like, if London beats like Faze or someone,
you're like, at a tournament, you're like, holy shit.
Like, that was crazy, but...
Like, imagine if in Toronto, London just won the event.
Yeah, but I don't think they can even make it anymore.
No, they still couldn't make...
They still couldn't make champs, but at least that would be high.
I think if they won out plus won the tournament, they still don't...
That's depressing.
But that's why I hate watching, because I know that I have no chance.
But my favorite matches right now are like the Rocker-Vegas matches, every time Rocker and Vegas play,
because those are the two teams.
No, they're fighting for the eight spots.
So that's exciting to watch.
And no matter who they're playing.
They play each other a third match of the last split.
So that'll be dope.
But Vegas kind of bottled it in Columbus.
Like Vegas got double first-rounded and Rocker won two matches.
So now instead of it being like a tight race, it's 20 points.
But Vegas have the hardest split of any team coming up this split.
So, like, they have the hardest schedule.
They're playing, like, optic phase, thieves.
That's insane.
They have, like, by far, yeah.
They have the gauntlet.
Something like that.
Something crazy.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's, uh, had some good food.
Obviously, the venue.
There's a lot of controversy around the venue and just, like, no fans.
And this is the one time.
Oh, there were fans.
Not the one time, but I do want to, like, defend the league a bit, too, because everyone
blames the league for everything.
But, like, this was not on the league.
Like, a team.
Why wasn't it?
New York.
backed out for, I don't know the reason, but New York
was supposed to host a major and they backed out. New York
lost a sponsor that
I don't think was their fault. I don't
know exactly what happened, but it was like New York
lost a sponsor,
and then it, I don't know what happened
after that, but all I know is New York lost a sponsor
before the event, and then it put them in a weird spot
and then I think they just backed out.
I could be wrong.
See, everyone was complaining as if like
something else,
I mean, maybe something else could have been done,
because I had no idea, but
The fans made me think that they just hosted some shitty-ass event with no fans.
No, it was supposed to be in NYU.
And then it fell through.
No to the back-up plan.
But like when it falls through, something can happen to get fans there.
I feel like that's what people...
Okay.
What would you rather...
Not at that place.
Would you have rather...
No, not in the Belong Center.
I'm saying...
Yeah, there was no, like...
They knew, like, what, a couple months in advance, right?
We knew that there was not to be fans here, like, before our major.
Yeah.
So at that point, you can find a gym...
museum somewhere. I mean, yeah.
There's probably something that could have been done.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, but.
Was it a little janky, though?
Like, even though there's no fans, that sucks.
It was a land center. It's like a land center.
Really? Yeah, so they, yeah, I mean, for what it was, it was run very well.
I give props to the league. Obviously, this isn't the league's fault. People were trying
to blame the league. And the league was just trying to, like, scrap everything together
to just make something work because, I mean, worst case scenario, they play an online major.
That would have been miserable.
That would have been miserable.
So at least we got to play it.
That's true.
Well, they got to play it on land.
I mean, never mind.
Selfishly, I think we should have hosted it.
Just because we actually own the-
home field.
Exactly.
We own the arena.
Boston also offered to host it at their like land center.
But what would you rather?
Would you rather see 50 to 100 fans in the venue or see none?
Because I think if you're talking about like a minuscule amount,
it's like a debate where you can be like,
eh, if there's only 50 fans going and only 50 people get tickets, it's like,
what the hell?
Then the chat's hosting.
Yeah.
The chat's like sick crowd.
There's no winning with the chat.
It really depends on how you look at it.
Because like if you remember all the E league tournaments,
there were only like 150 people in that crowd.
It's like a studio audience.
And I just think.
Still super hype.
I just think there should be like at least going forward because of this.
There should be like a backup option now for every single event
or if a team has to pull out for whatever reason.
There's a good fail safe because.
See, they do that for champs.
The league does that for champs.
Yeah.
Well, champs is champs though.
Right.
But I mean, you have to,
I feel like you have to.
to do that for every event.
This can't happen again.
Because like, I agree with what I've been saying.
Like, I'm not going to lie.
I'll be as blunt as possible.
The setup that was at the Belong Arena, like the old MLG Columbus Studio looked better than that.
Like that stage, granted, I understand.
And like, I'm sure they tried their best, but like, could have been a little better.
I mean, like, they could have spruced it up a bit.
So I understand the frustration.
I just think maybe the frustration is a little bit misplaced.
But because it's the call duty league, everyone's like.
It's the league's job, which I get, but it just seemed like a tough situation.
Like fans or not, it was still a little, like, could have been a little nicer.
Like, because even in the background, just seeing other players standing behind.
I mean, I don't mind that.
I actually think that's kind of cool.
I don't know.
Like, I kind of think, like, if you're a fan watching from home and you see, whatever.
Or you see, you see J-Cat pop up from behind watching.
Oh, yeah, next top.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That whole thing.
Someone was 100 Thieves was watching behind Optic.
And I see, the thing is, is like, obviously thieves are going to watch Vod of, like, respawn and stuff.
The only reason why I think that's kind of, like, weird is just if they're watching search,
they can literally hear your play calls.
Like your strats and shit, they can hear word for word what you're saying.
But like, how do you even dissuade people from doing it?
They could have been standing on the other side of the monitors and probably heard their strats.
With that set up, I don't think there was a way to stop them from hearing like come.
That's what I'm saying.
It's impossible.
Even if you had a ref, refs like,
holding hands with a barrier,
like they could have stood five feet behind that and heard them.
Yeah, the building that we were in was not big,
but I could see why, like, that would be kind of bothersome for teams.
Because, like, you don't want people to hear your literal search calls.
You know, like, that's where it gets weird.
But overall, I like the event.
I thought it was a good time.
We made it work.
The watch party went well.
Yeah, watch parties are always great.
I mean, just, like, the amount of people actually tuning in,
there was a debate on Twitter.
I mean, like Mr. Adam,
with Adam Appicella and some of the people.
Yeah, I saw that.
One of the reporters Jacob was like,
we need to stop reporting on peak viewership.
I'm like, why?
Like, what's the, that's cool.
Like, if we had 300,000 people tune in,
like, his argument was like,
oh, but it doesn't mean anything for advertisers.
Who gives a fuck?
It's cool.
We had 300,000 peak viewers at one point
or 270,000 or something.
Damn.
Why wouldn't that mean anything for advertisers?
I don't know.
I feel like that literally.
That's insane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's crazy how much all the watch parties have helped Call Duty.
Like it's a mixture of Twitch, our watch party, Zuma's, everyone's watch party now,
a bunch of big creators.
Like it's a lot of fun to like be a part of obviously.
And just like see how much support.
I saw a stat that like Call of Duty e-sports is the only Eastport growing in the West right now,
which is like an insane stat.
Like we're the only Eastport growing.
Hell yeah.
I mean, God was kind of down, wasn't it?
God was kind of down, wasn't it?
This year did kind of...
I mean, YouTube was...
Like, the last few games were pretty...
Oh, yeah, it was on YouTube as well.
Well, they need to fix the hackers and ranked immediately
because everyone's complaining about it now.
And this is the first time it's finally happening.
And it's like...
It was happening kind of in the first season, but now, like...
Now it's way worse.
Everyone that I've talked to just says how bad it is.
I don't even want to fucking waste my time and just get mad.
Like, I'm going to literally play, play hackers and just get mad.
And that's been one of the...
fun things for everybody.
Like, I've loved playing ranked.
I've liked watching rank.
Like, it was popping,
and now you can just see by the number
it's going down and down and down.
Yeah.
It always happens, though.
Yeah, it does happen.
But what is it?
There are very few ranked systems
that have kept their pull.
Is it cheaters that are killing ranked a little bit?
Yeah, it's.
Because once the top streamers stop playing,
I notice that there's like,
the hype disappears.
I feel like that's how it is with a lot of games.
I feel like,
but is it the,
Twitch like starts dwindling in numbers
for games, like the player base also
follows suit. Yeah. Besides
like CounterStrike.
Counterstrike. Counterstrike league legends
like, but again, those are
really, really good rank systems.
Is it the cheaters though that are bringing? Like,
right now, like rank was popping
like crazy. The game is awful. Our game right now
is awful. Mono for two is garbage.
It's complete utter shit.
But the rank system
was really good. So people
would play it for the ranks. So why is it going down?
Because the game is horrible.
Could it be? Do you think it would last longer if there weren't cheaters?
Not great, but it's not horrible.
I feel like I've seen a week.
Named four cod games that were worse.
This game or Vanguard?
Vanguard.
Okay, now here's silence.
It's fair.
I mean, Jesus.
There's red dots.
Now the sound cues do kind of ruin this, man.
Wait, what is this?
Is this for rank-play?
And this is the beginning of the year is the first blip, October?
So that big peak is ranked ice soon?
The big peak is ranked?
Or is it one of the majors?
No, that's in November.
That's the peak is like, yeah, that's ranked.
That's probably ranked there.
That's still pretty, that's a pretty dope spike though.
How much is that?
That spike right there is really dope.
Well, we always, we always, we always,
usual.
We always talk about how they use ranked kind of as like an extra wave to get people
to come back and start playing multiplayer.
That's why they don't release it at the start of the year.
And you see why.
Yeah.
I never thought of it that way until you said it.
I think you're right.
Yeah.
Which sucks.
That's so stupid, man.
Because we all want it off the break,
but if they use it as a marketing
and advertising tool, then we're fucked.
The thing that happened with Halo is like everyone was playing
Halo ranked whenever Infinite dropped.
Well, they fucked that, didn't they?
Didn't they just not update the game?
They didn't add the game.
They just let it die.
And they were cheaters.
Well, it came out super later.
I mean, Halo's...
There were cheaters. You couldn't search together.
In Halo, there's a lot of problems.
They did come out with ranked in the very
beginning but there was cheaters you couldn't find a game if you were searching with more than two
people so you never got to see your favorite pros match up that's not great that's unbelievably bad
3200 playing two hours ago i mean if you look at click like damn that's not great maybe click like
one year oh no my wait what's the click all again pro the amount this died so quick the keyboard
Mouse and Key was ineffective.
It was garbage.
The Tifus and the Tim to Tapmans
that are trying to come over and play for fun,
they couldn't fucking do that.
So a lot of things went into effect
to make Halo Infinite die
as rapidly as it did.
They definitely should have done a VR.
And what am I hearing?
I just look over and Rod just like this
behind the monitor.
Hell is calling me and why do they not know them on the podcast?
I don't think.
VRs obviously aren't like as popping as they were
like when Fortnite, you know,
they're dying.
a little bit, but I think a Halo BR
could have killed it, just like that world and like
I think a Halo BR is coming.
That shit would go crazy.
Yeah, but is it how crazy?
It's gonna go crazy in the beginning,
but is it gonna do another Halo infinite?
I feel like 1V2ing people in a BR and Halo would be so hard.
Like how did they,
I'm scared of how they're gonna make it.
Like how do you do the shields on Halo?
Does there auto-regen?
Is there something that you get that makes it auto-regen?
But they're gonna come out with,
They're going to come out with it, I have faith.
They have to be.
What else are they doing?
So it has to be coming out.
I don't know when.
But yeah, how are they going to do it?
Like, please, please clutch.
Don't let there be cheated.
Like, be on, they have to be on top of it.
Infinite is Hitscan, right?
I don't really know what that shit means.
To be honest with you.
Hitscan is when, like, so say you have them in the center, right when you shoot it hits.
There's no bullet.
Oh, okay.
You don't have to lead your shot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You call yourself a gamer?
You don't know what a hit skis?
I used to know, but I'm with you, too.
We're not nervous.
I don't know any of that type of, like, intricate, bullshit.
You don't have to lead your shots.
So what's it, what's the opposite of hit scan?
trajectory.
Just bullet.
Projectory, right?
Okay.
Projectile, that's what I did.
I like hit scan shit.
Me too.
Pay those hits scan.
That's why I think that's the,
Lockups four was the last hit scan Cod.
That's what happened with Cod is like.
It's not hit scan anymore?
No, once, once Warzone came out,
all of Warzone is like.
Even ranked and shit?
Call of Duty is in Cold Duty.
Call of Duty is Warzone shrunk.
I made this joke to him like two days ago.
It's like,
call of duty is like,
honey,
I shrunk the fucking Warzone map.
Honey,
I shrunk Terminal.
Yeah.
Each map is just a smaller version
of a part of a war zone map
with the game is catered to,
the game is literally catered to war zone.
Watch,
I don't even blame them because of how much money they make.
Warzone was popping.
Embassy is literally in the Warzone map.
Like you,
I don't play any war zone.
So was hydroelectric?
So it was Bogra, right?
Yeah.
Dude, I'm telling you, they're all smaller.
Is Bogra in it?
I don't know if I'm bothered me, dude, because X-Difiant, first off,
shout out to X-Difiant because I've been loving, the beta just ended.
But, like, as much as I would love to just text aches and be like, dude,
you made a shit game.
They made a good game.
Like, they made a really fun.
Like, they literally made, I guess, Call of Duty.
I think Call of Duty's Engine would always be superior.
They just have the smooth-feeling engine.
But, like, just the sheer amount of fun, there's red dots.
The red-dot site just looked like cod-four.
Like, they made a good game.
The time to kill is a little fast.
It is, but.
The movement.
It's still beta.
And more so the maps, like, I think the maps are fun.
Like, I think, like, the maps, like, it's shocking how a game, which I'm assuming has
less, way less support than Call of Duty can come out with something like that.
It actually is a lot of fun.
I can't lie.
I hope there.
I'm guessing eventually there's going to be a search and destroy in that game.
Yeah.
There's some sort of game type.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't like the game types.
I want to see a CTF back.
I might go pro with it.
Something.
Really?
Yeah, I'm sorry, an Optic X defiant team.
I'd be down.
You're playing.
Dude, think about how fun it did.
Damn, imagine.
No, think about how fun would be.
A game battle tournament drops.
2,900.
Pat's watching this just as boners.
Yeah, he's fucking just.
What do you guys need?
Custom skins.
You miss my joke.
top 2,900.
Yeah.
He made a joke yesterday last time we teamed because in the poker stream the other day,
I placed 2938 or something.
Yeah.
It's like jokes like that, just know it's hurting me to make them.
I don't want to make them.
I just know they have to be made.
They're just layups.
Yeah, they're good.
Yeah, it's a layup.
As soon as I saw the screen popped up and it said you placed top 2,900.
And I was like, shit, I have to do it now.
Well, the whole point is for us to try to kind of fall into that.
Because, yeah.
How was poker though?
Oh, dude.
I'm not at a time of my life.
you can't like read your opponent it's so fast you can't bluff or anything it was i forgot between
hands to for people like start tweaking like it's just so fast it's like you know what i'm saying
there's no shuffling it was it was the time of my life that might be the only time i've ever been
like jealous of a sponsored stream it was fun i was sitting there i was like i was it was what
what was it was this like a tournament uh it was a community tournament and if they knocked so
each of us me hector and zin had a bounty on our head for a thousand dollars and if they
eliminated a firm tournament they get $1,000.
I bet that was annoying.
Well, okay, so he was getting,
yeah, they would just try to push you all in.
Like the time Seth was all in, people were go all in with like seven two offsuits.
Just hope to be.
They were still flop like a flush or something.
Well, the one where they weren't putting in real money, right?
Dude, they were flopping some crazy community.
I think it was.
You got River like four times.
I think it was a free enter, but I think if you got knocked out three times, it was like
two bucks to reenter or something.
Yeah.
So they didn't give a fuck about their.
No, they were going.
$2.
See, I don't like that.
Their only goal was going all in trying to get us out.
But there was also money at the end.
Like if you won the tournament,
so like after a certain period,
they shut down the buy-ins.
And if you won the tournament,
there was also, I think it was like a thousand dollar dollar dollar.
That's fun part.
I'm still undefeated, but.
The beginning was like a private game,
but just me him and Hector.
In the community game, you have to.
Yeah, so it was us three.
It was my first ever time ever playing poker.
And they never played in my entire life,
don't know how to play.
So in the private game,
I could show my cards and my chat.
So I had like, I was,
my chat was coaching me.
And it was the most fun time ever.
And I purposely did that.
I literally didn't play on my phone.
I didn't try to play because I wanted to make it like a funny thing.
So that was incredible.
The only thing that the one downside was in the community game,
you have to like hide your cards because we're competing it to others.
And I think as a viewer,
that's kind of weird to like watch someone play poker and you can't see their cards.
So after every hand, I was telling them what I had.
It's one of those things where it's like.
And I beat him and Hector.
Because they could just run to someone else's chat.
You'd have to put like a three minute delay on.
Because hands that.
go all the way if you bet every turn
and like the turn the river the flop
like one hand could be
five minutes and then by the time you're at the end
card they could look and they're in your chat
telling you what Zinney's got
I learned so quick though like I can't wait
until we have an actual like poker night because I
like we need to have one just that stream it
I want to see what Hitch is going to bring to the table
he's been studying poker where's my robot cart
that I asked for for the cooking streams
we got to get that for like cooking streams
poker streams because we can do it in my basement.
So we could do it all for my house if we want it.
Yeah, that would be dope.
Or we can do it from Hector's garage.
What if you got a legit?
Isn't the garage made for like poker?
It's like a, or they have like a big poker section?
It's made for parking vehicles.
Well, you know what I mean?
No, but isn't, don't be a dick?
I'm going to be a dick.
It's going to be a dick hole.
No, but isn't like the upstairs like a poker section or something?
Have you ever been to the?
It's like an upstairs like lounge.
It's like a balcony.
It's like a couch and the TV.
Gotcha.
You've never been there, man. Sorry for asking.
Yeah, you're real fucking cool.
We need to do, like, an official...
On camera, you think you're the fucking man.
There's a poker house here in Texas, like in Dallas.
That's they host their own streams.
So if we want to go, we just rent that out.
We can do that.
So, like, we'd have our, we'd have our cards, like, boom.
The camera sees or, like, whoever's what...
That'd be fucking dope.
It would be desop.
That should have fun.
Can we see this, the Abizi thing?
I'm actually, I need to see what this is.
Recording to Abizi, someone attempted.
to attack the ATL phase team, something, some, something.
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All right, guys, back to the pot.
Come on, there ain't no real footage.
I got to go to Fight Haven Twitter to see him.
I saw your tweet, dude.
It's actually insane.
I think I muted that account.
Oh, this is great, man, Craig.
That's going to freak out.
Electronic.
I can summarize if you were literally five-sating ahead of everyone and then like.
I wonder how many buttons he just clicked in 10 seconds to get the volume or.
Like MC RJ or not RJ MC.
It was like we had a team dinner and we were walking back from a restaurant.
No way, dude.
Face just gets capped on the side.
I think me, Austin and Crowder were walking like ahead of everyone.
And then like me Austin and Crowder were like walking ahead of everyone and like MC RJ or not RJ MC, Nicky D.
And like someone else was like farther back.
And like we were like walking down the sidewalk and like we're actually pretty close to the hotel.
It was like right next to the hotel almost
And like
These guys like pulled up in a car
And they like screamed like hey
Like out the window
And I was like what the fuck
I like turned around
When I turned around
Like they looked like they had like a gun
Pointing out the window
But it was like an airsoft gun
Or like a Nerf gun or something
And they all shot us like
Thankfully we all had our hoodies up and everything
So like it only hit like our music
But like it didn't really
It didn't even hurt
It just like felt like something like
Like tapped like the back here
like sweatshirt.
But,
um...
You guys are fucking losers.
You're gonna be like 14 to be doing shit like that now, right?
Bro, you know how scary that would be?
If you're a grown man, doing that to people, fuck yourself.
You could die doing that.
If you go, if you pull up on the wrong person,
and go to shoot them?
Wasn't it in Columbus last year?
With the paintball man was?
No, that was here, right?
That was wrong.
I'm not going to say that.
No, that was the pro.
I'm in Columbus.
We were out at night at like 2 a.m.
And we got drive by paintball.
I just left before that.
Dude, what?
It was literally 2 a.m. on the street in Columbus.
I just left and I got a text from you or something.
You're like, dude, we got shot up my paintball guns.
Randos?
What the fuck?
Was it the same fucking people?
Like, cod fan people?
There's no way.
There's no way.
They would have said something about phase.
Yeah, it would have been like Lizard Squad type thing.
They would have tweeted.
Gotcha.
At phase.
You would imagine.
No, I think that was just like random.
It just happened to be the phase guys.
I mean, that's unfortunate.
Unfortunately, we live in a sick fucking world.
Even airsoft guns, like, if you're not expecting it,
that's, like, scary.
You had your eye, you're fucked.
Dude, if I see a car slowdown and I just see...
Like, it's not about the...
It's not about the what they shot at you.
The fear of, like, looking back and...
It could be a water gun.
Oh, I'd be...
Especially if they, like, painted the tip of it
because they're orange, usually airsoft guns.
If they painted it black, yeah, that'd be pretty scary.
Bro, even if it was like a water gun,
it's still, like, traumatizing.
It's like it's embarrassing
It's like traumatizing like someone
It's just it makes you feel unsafe
Like you don't you just lose faith
In the one of the planet
Yeah just lose fucking
Slowly dwindling it just
Another notch on the chain
Yeah like no it is
You were at your last fucking straw
You just got hit with a fucking
This world is terrifying now
Like crazy
Now is insane
Is the world
Or is it just news
We are at the point
It's Twitter and shit
Well news is terrible
But we're at the point where you don't know
What's real anymore
It was a Beezing
Stream is, literally.
This, I think we talked about the last pot I was on.
The AI shit is legitimately crazy.
I'm hearing songs from my favorite artists that aren't them.
Drake, Drake.
Yeah, Drake, yeah.
Drake with AI.
I'm seeing pictures.
I'm seeing just deep fakes of celebrities that look like them, but it's not.
I mean, you can put, I'm not even going to give you an example, but like.
Yeah, what are you looking?
I never seen one of those.
No, you never seen like the video of like the cops chasing Trump.
But it's just a fake
Matt, can you look up the...
Just a fake image?
The Morgan Freeman
AI deep fake?
I thought that was real.
But when I first saw that,
I was like, what the fuck?
Just what they have people say, the rap.
Is this not real?
No, it's AI.
Could you name me that water?
Oh, that's what...
Yeah.
Yeah, okay, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah.
Look at this, dude.
What you see is not real.
Well, at least in contemporary terms, it is not.
Dude.
What?
If I were to tell you that I'm not even
human being would you believe me who's making what is your perception of reality is it the
ability to capture process and make sense of the information our senses like this is
insane dude like if you can see here taste or smell something does that make it real
or is it simply the ability to feel music creeps in I would like to welcome you
I feel like Optimus Prime's walking the edge of a hill right now.
Autobots.
Now.
What?
Roll out.
Oh, this is definitely Optimus right here.
Dude.
Like that is...
So that wasn't Morgan Free.
No.
That was the guy in the bottom.
Yeah, that's horrifying.
But it's like, it's so crazily real that...
Who is making AI?
We need to stop.
Who is...
It's going to get bad.
Someone's going to do some scump shit.
Dude, people are making thousands of...
It's going to be our next generation, though.
Like, our kids are probably going to have to, like, deal with this shit.
No, I think that we're fucking up by not being super involved in it right now.
This shit is happening in two years.
Yeah, I should probably, like, just throw some money in it.
See, have you seen how much it's grown in the past four months?
It's going to put so many people out of jobs.
It's not, like, dude, I was looking, I was on Twitter last night.
It's all over my feed.
Just like, there's shit on my feed that I don't know why it's on my feed.
You ever see the robot videos?
Yeah, like, those are like fake.
Like the robot dogs?
Yeah.
But those are fake.
No, they're not.
Pretty sure they're fake.
No.
Well, I guess it depends on what you're...
The robot pulls out a gun.
Oh, right.
Yeah, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
No, the dogs are not, but there's, like, actual robots and they'll, like, actually start attacking the person.
It's like, it looks real.
And then, like, at the end, it'll, like, start going rogue.
Oh, yeah.
Dude, like, for example, like, you can upload a picture of just your face, right?
And instead of you going to do a photo shoot behind a green screen or wearing merch, they just
generate for you. Like there's, it's going to
like change the world entirely. Like it's
literally going to make it so automated
and it's fucking terrifying. My
tattoo rate, my latest tattoo is
from AI.
What does that mean? What are you saying?
It means my
tattoo artist type this into a
Discord and it just printed
out this Ow.
He just typed in like Owl, evil
looking owl with lightning
and smoke or something and it's just like
but there's like a discord of that. Which is
pretty cool. There's also AI
that edits videos now.
AI that edits videos. There's a podcast
AI. There's a sound
EQ AI.
What's a podcast? There's a deal. What's that one do?
That one, it makes
your voice, it like
drowns out all the background noise
no matter like what mic quality you have.
So it takes what you
were saying and it like
it like takes your
it reads your voice and then
takes what you were saying and
regenerates it and sinks it with your voice.
It's the craziest shit.
Like you could...
That sounds crazy.
You could like record with a GoPro up there and barely hear what I'm saying and then
make, like plug it into that AI and then now I sound like I'm talking into like a podcast
Mike.
What?
Wait, by how?
Who fuck is designed it?
Like who lips or something?
By like it reads your voice or something like that.
That sounds like some FBI technology like in HATO.
Like more of it sounds like some Snowden type shit like just like one of those hats.
Like the FBI?
Yeah, I imagine.
Is snowed an FBI?
CIA, right?
CIA, it's one of them.
Is he?
Dude, we are the AI, you idiot.
Don't you kidding?
We made Sims.
Fucking Sims are real people.
Stuck and we're the Sim.
Can you imagine?
We're Sims?
I saw some, I forget what it was.
Some TikTok, like, explained it.
That guy designed you a small fucking.
But like,
that guy designed you a small fucking.
They're creating like an AI sort of Sims version.
And they, and they, and they, and the Sims are going to become, like, next Sims games are going to become conscious.
Like, it's, like, I wouldn't be able to play.
Dude, I always thought.
It's like sea monkeys, bro.
Feed the dog.
Fuck you.
No.
What?
What do you mean?
No.
Like, he's just like, I'm going to die.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
Fuck you's in.
You're going to kill me.
like
please no
no
no
yeah I won't be able to play that show
oh my
actually I won't play it
I didn't even
that's like cool
that's terrible
that's good
because like
when I was growing up
like AI is like
like I robot
and shit like that
where it's like a
it's like a robot
and it becomes
conscious
but it wasn't until
I saw that like
funny movie
with Ryan Reynolds
what was it
uh
Free guy.
Yeah.
And like he's a character in a video game and that character becomes conscious.
Like I had never thought of it that way that like, like what happens?
What if that happens?
I don't.
Did you imagine.
Can you come conscious?
Fucking unplug it.
Imagine.
Unplug it.
Like you're playing Sims and they're just way.
What's it going to do?
Fuck you.
That's fine.
Like you open your Sims game and your characters just.
Oh, you mean like.
Just like staring at you dead in the screen.
Oh wait.
There am I.
You mean like conscious.
Conscious.
You're an ass.
Like it's a real person.
It's a real person.
Like, imagine, imagine.
I think like an evil like, like, fuck you.
I mean, I think you're a psychopath now.
What, what, what video game were you playing the other day, the on stream, the solo game?
God of War.
God of War.
Imagine you're playing God of War and you're like, I'm going to throw my axe over there and he just turns around and looks at you and like, I don't really want to.
I'm tired.
I'm not doing this.
Or like, hey, Zen.
Hey, Methods, how was your day?
You're just like.
Say, Cratos.
You won't throw that fucking axe.
Cretus, you will throw that fucking axe, Cretto's.
Or this power cord comes out.
I had never thought about it.
He starts arguing with his fucking conscious sin and shit.
That would make streaming great.
That would be sick.
That would be sick.
That would make it great.
What if he finds out a way to get out?
What's it going to blue sco do out of the fucking...
You see a little light going up your H-GMI?
I'm stopping on it.
You're like, no.
Oh, shit.
It gets into your computer.
Yeah, like he's in your, you turn on your PC.
He's your background.
He pops out life size, though.
When he comes out of the HTML, he pops off the cap and he,
he's fucking Fredos.
Or your PC with the monitor, it just starts coming to life.
Oh, my God.
Dude, the world's getting scary.
So, optic tech has tied a hard point record with 11 streak.
They tied with the Huntsman.
And,
And let me tell you, I respect them because they squared up with thieves to try and take the record.
They played Hydro Hardpoint.
I'm sure they weren't thinking about the record.
I'm sure they were thinking about their potential tournament at hand.
Yeah, but I respect the fact that like, it wasn't like, oh, they're playing Fortress Hard Point.
They're about to break the record.
It's like, okay, we've got a fucking battle right now.
We're about to watch.
I mean, they don't, I get what you're saying.
Talking from our point of view, not theirs.
I'm just saying like it's, it was a grueler for the record.
Yeah, it was a fun watch where it's like they're not playing their super bread and butter
to get the record.
Like they're playing thieves pride
like their best map
or one of them.
Yeah, it was a bang out.
They fall a little short
and they lost by five points.
Yep, six points.
Yeah.
244 to 250.
I remember that.
Sure.
But yeah,
they're gross at hard point.
Why are they gross at hard point?
I think it's just the system
they have right now.
Well, they have...
Us are thieves.
Our team.
Well, thieves turned up...
Thieves look kind of...
In hard point.
Apparently, yeah,
thieves said that Optic was beating them
in hard points
and scrims going into the major.
and then they just turned up.
And that's not a big debate now.
It's like, we need to stop scrimming thieves.
And it's like, well, then who the hell do you want to scrim?
Yeah, that's not smart.
Because...
You got to play some top teeth.
Like, no matter what?
Because also then you're going in like...
You can't, yeah.
You're going in blind.
Unless you're scrimming us for.
Hitch, scump, methods, maniac first...
Dashy.
We can scrimm them.
Yeah, it would be...
It wouldn't be interesting.
But it would be interesting to see if I could get a kill or two.
You'd get a kill.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
Sit a corner.
corner.
Name assist, sound cute.
But I'm playing to win.
I'm playing to win.
I'm rotating and shit.
Yeah, you'll play to win until you're O in 10
and then you'll sit.
That's how it always works.
Very true.
Yeah.
Unless you're blank.
You get a couple kills.
I'm dude.
W2, people die like that.
You have to hit three bullets.
You tell me you can't hit three bullets.
Sometimes when I got to the iridescent rank,
those guys were starting coming different.
They were cheating.
They were cheating.
They were cheating.
Some of them were.
They probably were fucking cheating.
But I was starting to struggle a little bit.
Then I just stopped playing.
Now it's fuck that game.
Worst game ever.
Worst God, fuck it.
What are you playing now?
Back to fucking A-Lo, man.
I don't know, man.
I think I'm at another midlife crisis.
Are you?
You're at a crossroads content-wise?
Not, yeah.
Yes.
The perfect way to say it.
Like, what's...
Well, I feel like gaming right now is just stale in general.
Yeah, once ranked out...
This always happens.
Yeah, there's always...
Well, no.
What sucks?
But the new Star Wars game,
comes out tomorrow night at midnight.
Oh, your problem.
Like, I feel like right now there's not a popping multiplayer game.
Like to play with your friends and like get competitive in.
X-Difiant, dude.
X-Difine is like one of the biggest prospects right now.
I feel like the only reason you guys say that is because you're not, you don't play like Val.
Like if you guys played Val or League of Legends.
But I've played Val.
I've played C-Apex.
I've played all those games.
Yeah, yeah.
Why don't you guys try Apex?
No, but even those games are two and me.
We should start, it's in a bad spot right now.
We should start.
It's in a bad.
spot right this second
the thing is though I want to save apex
as long as I can because I know during the
off season we're not going to have shit to play
so in the off season it's going to be a lifesaver
if you do a if you do a grind
to try to get like masters or
pred like that
hundreds of thousands of people
are going to watch you play that shit I've already talked to
Shotsie I'm trying to get Shotsie
going to be fucking same it's all right man
I'm not going to be a set too
well it's not like you have to have a set squad
you can play with whoever as long as you're in the same
rank i don't want to play with you if you're trying to build a squad without me fuck you
me zini bo's shotsie my my your pity pick me you and shots you no it's all right me boz and
camera who's the farmer yeah dude me you i'll form my own fucking boss dude he'll get on for a week that
'll stop playing yeah we'll get on two hours at a time do make it to go to yesterday like i i'm like
i'm not really into games lately but yesterday there were a few games that like tST had on apex
bro the end games are insane
the end games are so have you have you all like
have you when you were playing apex did you ever like experience
like a crazy end game dude
I was like bronze three I played like
I played for like an hour and then got off
my honest thing I'm talking about I thought you played like
in the past no
I don't think I've ever like tried to fully grind
apex I've definitely played apex in the past
but like just I've never like actually committed
to you know what I'm saying that I mean
I played solo cue to platinum
see yeah but platinum
it took me like
Like three hours or something?
Three hours?
Yeah, that's different now.
Dude,
I forget,
I forget how long it took me.
We're not even dying.
Maybe like two nights.
We're not even diamond yet.
And there were like three or four games yesterday that felt like scrims.
People were,
I,
I'm like shocked at like how insane it is like early, early in a rank.
Like there were like eight teams left final circle.
Like eight teams.
Really hard.
Just going crazy.
I just want a bullshit, man.
It's a lot of fun though.
I just want to like stream and just bullshit.
I don't know what if I want to bullshit or if I want to do one of those.
Where I could just turn the stream line and they watch me for some reason.
I'm just sitting there talking.
Yeah.
And I've heard of YouTube watch 20,000 viewers and they're like, this guy's great.
I'm just spewing.
Yeah.
How does that one?
I don't know.
How do you become an ex-QC?
Where I can just do anything.
I'm on YouTube, not Reddit.
Nope.
I don't go on Reddit.
Nope, you do.
I did and I won't ever again.
You do go on Reddit.
You do go on Reddit.
No, I'm done.
What was last time?
Last time I was on?
Yeah.
When I...
Last night.
No, no.
I promised I've been away from it.
See how I looked away?
Maybe this morning.
No, I'm actually...
I go to YouTube comments now and...
YouTube comments are always splendid.
They're soothing.
They're great on YouTube.
Oh, yeah.
YouTube comments...
My personal Twitch community.
Well, yeah.
But then do you scroll through, you'll see like 100 good comments and then you'll see one.
You're like...
Well, dude, the hate always gets...
Listen, man.
The hate does get you.
I told you right when you joined, I was like, be careful.
I wasn't expecting hate just for fucking making jokes.
I told you.
You get hated if you breathe.
If you join Optic and you breathe for even one second,
they're going to hate on that breath.
If you aren't Seth, it's common.
I just wasn't expecting it.
So when I read it and I was just like,
it's just weird.
Did you get on Reddit before joining Optic?
Yeah, but read, well, I don't even.
Well, it was.
Loved him before joining.
Well, no, no.
It was one thing to read.
They did.
Well, no.
It's true.
They did.
Are they making threads and shit?
There was one...
It's probably fucking threads of me.
250 comment threads.
400 comment threads.
No way, dude.
You saw that thread?
It broke him.
I saw it and I said damn because I knew you were going to read it.
See, I don't even...
Don't even tell me if there's shit going on with me.
Because it was one thing to read stuff about me as a player.
Because that's like logical.
I get it.
Did he shit?
Like, oh, methods play slow or he's not good.
Like, okay, that's like...
Yeah.
That's one thing.
I can accept that.
I drop an egg bomb, call me shit.
But they're just like methods is insufferable.
Don't pull up the threat.
I'm like, what?
No, I'll pull up the clip.
How about you suck my dick?
Who do you say that too?
Oh, when I was reading Reddit?
Yeah, when he was reading the Reddit club.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, when they were like, please not talking.
Jokes.
He goes, how about you suck my dick?
No, it was just like.
Or eat my dig or he says up my car.
No, I said, suck my balls.
They said all they talk about is balls and I said suck my balls.
Nice.
But now I've reformed.
I don't talk about.
that stuff anymore. Yeah, you've been, I'm in your shell. I'm actually pissed at this
combo to start it. Sorry. Because here they go again. Yeah, but I'm not going to read it this time.
Yeah, just don't, it doesn't exist if you don't read it. Correct, have fun. Does it even exist
if you don't see it or read it? Correct. It's like a bear. It's beyond. It's beyond.
Woods. Does it actually shit? Yeah, I just want to be one of those streamers that can just do
whatever. Where's the bear shit? I mean, that's a goal, but it's very difficult to do that.
Because it's scary because like, someone like me, I feel like I'm like the Call of Duty shell.
where it's like if I venture out
or I try to venture out
I'm going to get hit and it's just like
I don't know
You're gonna have to do that at some point
It's like that in every aspect
But it's called duty
But it's like that in every aspect
We need another Fortnite
I wish I played Fortnite
We were still competing
We missed the Among Us wave
We missed Fortnite and Among Us
Optic was dead
Among Us was awesome
Like that was a fun ass game
I feel like I would have panicked in Among us
Like I would not be able
Bro I saw one clip of Royal 2
Trying to lie
I can't like
impersonate it but like
it was so bad and I'm like
it was like embarrassing
I'm like fuck that kind of
I probably have the worst
Amongus clip ever made
Really?
Trying to lie like I would just
I would just fuck it up
I choke I wouldn't be smooth with it
I didn't really know how to play
and so I was right next to Dr. Lupo
and I was like okay I guess I could just kill him now
so I'd kill him
and right as soon as
that comes out of the animation, nine people walked down the hallway.
Literally the rest of the entire lobby is walking down the hallway.
And I'm next to the body with the knife out, basically.
Dude, I forgot about that clip.
That was a fun ass game.
It was a fun game.
I didn't play it.
I never played it 24 hours.
Fall guys was good.
48 hours.
All guys will come.
Fall guys will come back to two years.
This is it.
This is it.
This is it.
Oh, so it was me and Jack.
And then Lupo's down there.
Okay, so I guess he's like alone, right?
I got on there and I'm like, okay, I kill him.
Oh, my God.
Look at that fucking lineup.
What are you, Kaisenot?
Yeah.
Jesus.
It was a good try.
I never played the game.
How much fun was it?
I do so much fun.
Dude, I...
So I've got a million views
Does it really?
I'd be silent in that lobby, I'll tell you that.
Would you?
Yeah.
Nice.
I saw hitch to it.
You ever seen that clip by 21 Savage
where he's like, yeah, he's funny,
but only if he knows you.
Yeah.
People will be putting like their cat and shit on there on TikTok.
Yeah.
He's chill.
And their cat's just like chilling in a chair like this
in some weird position.
But only if he knows you.
That's you.
You think?
Flap, flap, yep.
That's fucked up.
UK blocks Microsoft deal to buy Activision Blitzin.
I think that's, that's kind of, is that new?
I saw it, I saw somebody talk about today.
I'm so sick and tired of it.
I care about three-four-thruist industries.
I don't care about Activision.
Damn.
I thought this got shut down a while ago, no?
No, then it got back on track.
And then it got shut down again?
It's going to go through.
You think so?
What does that mean for us?
Well, the reason they're nothing.
If anything, it might be.
Big Bobby's getting paid.
It might be good for.
call duty esports. If Microsoft
cares about call duty esports,
it could be good. You think so?
No one gives a shit. If they made
a godlike cod, would you want to compete again?
Not if it wasn't, no.
I already said if it wasn't optic related,
I wouldn't do it. I didn't join
Optic as a content creator just to leave Optic
and go join a fucking call duty team again.
Well, it doesn't make sense. Let's be real here, Zend.
You're not getting on Optic, Texas.
No, I know. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Dang. If it wasn't like
optic related, I wouldn't leave Optic.
to find. Dude, I'm actually down.
You're all game. You're all
talk. I'm all talk.
Optic, I'm all talk. He is
all talk. Dude, I don't want to scrim again.
But it wouldn't even... But it wouldn't feel
like scrimming if you were having a blast.
If you were with three of your
boys and you were working
towards a goal... If we were good and you
were loving the game genuinely... I know that's
what you miss. But we couldn't like care how the results were
like... I wouldn't. Like we couldn't get mad.
You would. You lost a match. You're talking to yourself.
Talk to yourself.
Look at the mirror and say that.
You'd only be able to scrim.
I don't give a shit.
You'd only be able to scrimm from Monday to Wednesday.
Then the watch party, sorry.
Sorry, teammates.
We can't.
Sorry, this takes press.
You would just have to find two people that.
We can't play a tournament on the weekends.
We had a tournament on weekends.
But what if we were fucking failed?
I would love to throw a creator league.
And the viewers were there and people were loving it.
Like Stygstify.
Could you imagine Scup returns?
Optic.
I'm ex-defiant.
Akes would be sitting there just rocking wood, just running around.
Like, yes, yes, yes.
Someone asked me on stream, like, what do I miss about competing or not competing or whatever?
And it's just the, like, camaraderie of it, I think.
I was like, that's the main thing.
Like, scrimming sucks.
But, like, when you're, like, putting in work and you're, like, not so good at this map,
and you're trying to figure out how to be good at this map,
and then you start being good at this map, it's like that sense of feeling.
It's, like, such a good feeling.
Like, you're texting your three boys.
or whatever, you're in the discords
and the Skype calls and the
whatever the fuck. It's just like
this camaraderie that you have, like, every single
day and just having the, it's like, you get to
just like go to war with these three other people.
Yeah, it's the peaks of valleys. I just
fucking miss that because that much is.
The peaks and valleys, the valleys are fucking shit.
Yeah, but the valleys make those peaks
like insanely like awesome.
And before they start, I know, I only
won twice. I fucking know by now. Trust me,
I know. Two for 60.
Two for a 60. Two for 50.
Two for 55.
Trust me, I get it.
That's also kind of fucked up.
Not much bad.
It is.
I can't even be proud of my career anymore.
Everyone just shits on it.
Dude.
You're never going to escape.
Don't worry, girl.
I got your back with this one.
I took it.
It was the honor of my lifetime.
You should have just not one ever.
Now I can't.
Now I can't.
Now I's good shit on for it.
It's kind of fucked up.
You put your life out there.
It's kind of fucked up.
Put your life on the internet.
I tried, man.
Then you got MVP, huh?
I did.
All right?
Dude.
What's wrong with you?
What's wrong with you?
One time.
Ever.
I got some second places.
And there's a lot of added context where if I really divulge you to it,
I think I went more for like two for like 25.
So there's like half of my tournaments don't count.
Sure.
Wait, why don't they count?
Don't worry about my context.
Dude, I'm saying you got, winning is good, all right?
These fucking losers, they never went shit in their fucking life.
I just don't know if we're going against the best.
We're going to fucking.
war and we came out on top maybe just once maybe just twice but we did it but how do you how do you
how do you reach that adrenaline rush feeling again because i don't know like as a content creator
what is the equivalent is there is there is there one equivalent of winning a tournament
motorcycle what's it called oh the island of mantiti yeah where you i keep fucking talking this is like
the fourth podcast i've talked about it's like some motorcycle race every single year and someone's
guarantee dead every single year because it three people die every year why do that might be i don't know
that's next. That might be next. I don't know.
The racers say that they can't live
like they can't live without the race.
They just die? They're dead when they're not racing.
You never heard of this race?
No. There's a race in an island between Ireland and UK
and they race on. Look how fast they go. They race on roads.
But you think it'd be illegal. This ain't no racetrack, Zinny.
Dunlop's Jack sponsors it?
The Dunlop's here in your race?
Dude.
How fast they're going.
Like what if a tree burn?
I'm confused. Why is this race still allowed to go on legally if people are just dying?
People do wonder that.
The government of this island allows it.
Okay.
And so that's why they have it on a high.
So this is literally on a random, Randow Island.
It's on a road.
Like, like, but I mean, is it on an island in the middle of the ocean?
Just like, yo, we got to all take a boat here.
I mean, you got to be sick in the fucking head to be like.
They're going like 185 around corners.
Yeah, like that's insane, dude.
Can you, can you look up?
And they know someone's dying.
Man TT fly by?
Damn.
That's next to answer your question.
That's the only way we're reaching that again.
I don't want to see any crashes.
It'll be us up there next.
Listen to it.
Okay, see, this guy's out of his fucking mind for sitting there with a camera.
I bet.
That is in.
That's literally Barry Allen, dude.
You can't see them.
That's on a road.
Why are these people on the side of the road?
I don't know.
I mean,
Why is that baby on the side of the road?
Luckily, if you had me there, you'd be safe.
This guy's just taking a smoke break from work.
I used the riot shield.
No one's touching us like this.
Good one.
Thank you.
Real question is, who's living on this island?
I'm sorry.
Yeah, imagine you live on that road, and you're like,
oh, I can't, I can't leave this weekend because there's motorcycles driving by my house.
At a hundred and a hundred and a house.
Like, who's living?
Who's living there?
At that point, it's like a game of roulette to cross the fucking road.
Do you, do you ever think about just packing it up and going somewhere?
to a different country.
I'm thinking about packing up this podcast so we can do beer.
Dude, I was literally just thinking.
Sure.
Like literally the exact same sentence.
Answer your question.
My dream job one day whenever I have enough generational wealth for my future.
Fuck them kids.
Family and shit.
Get it for yourself.
I wanted this travel the world and eat, dude.
Mark Weans.
I want to be Mark Weans.
Zinn is going to be Mark Wings.
We're going to make that happen.
We're going to drink beer and play some call of duty.
So thank you guys so much for watching episode 180 of the Optic Podcast for
For 181, I mean, 121 of the Arctic podcast, for 122, we're doing something super special.
And if you're not there, I will find you.
Damn.
See you next time.
Peace.
Thank you.
